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Title: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 10, 2012, 02:29:50 PM
Perhaps this thread was long overdue since we have a discussion topic for other series like "Pokemon". And since there are quite a few Zelda fans on this forum, we could probably have a good discussion in this topic.

Anyways, after all this topic about OoT in the Main Spam topic, I had the urge to go back and play.  :mrred: Luckily, I still have my copy of OoT for the Virtual Console on the Wii.

At the moment, I am collecting all the items I need to enter the Great Deku Tree. I already got the Deku Shield and now I just need the Deku Sword or whatever it is called. Replaying this game reminds me of how big of a douche Mido was.  :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 10, 2012, 02:50:31 PM
Good idea, though I swear there was this REALLY old thread discussing the Zelda games. But, we can always start fresh. ;)

Anyways, I've been thinking of replaying this game myself. Unfortunately, I don't have the "Project 64" version that I downloaded anymore. Since I lost everything in a really bad virus I got a few months ago. I think I know where to find it, I can easily Google it. And if I do end up replaying it, I could totally go to you (and vice versa) if we need help with a specific part of the game. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 11, 2012, 01:25:30 AM
I forgot how slooooooooooooow the first dungeon of the game is right now. I am inside the Great Deku Tree right now, and Navi explains EVERYTHING to you, even though most of it is common sense. Its really annoying for her to tell you about stupid details like opening a door. And then it took me ten minutes to get past that spiked pillar and water puzzle. Surprisingly, I still remember the code to get to Queen Gohma. :lol:

Now time to fight Queen Ghoma. :mrred:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 11, 2012, 01:32:53 AM
Dang, you're already fighting the Deku Tree boss?! :o Man, last time I played it, it took me 3-4 days just to reach the boss. But you're right though, Deku Tree is so tedious and slow to go through.

By the way, I found a site where I downloaded both the Project 64 emulator AND the game itself. I should probably start the game sometime tomorrow. I already have a lot of work to do before I catch up to you. ;)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 11, 2012, 01:36:48 AM
The first part of OoT is so slow. I don't even like many parts of the Young Link part of the story. I hate Dodongo's Cavern and Death Mountain, there is too much traveling back and forth in order just to even get in a cave. And I am not even looking forward to Jabu-Jabu's Belly. :roll:

But yeah, I remember taking a long time to beat the Deku Tree the first time I played it. Admittedly, it was a really complex dungeon for the first dungeon of the game. I remember I couldn't get past the room with the Slingshot in it because I didn't realize you had to shoot the ladder down. :roll: And that spike pillar puzzle was annoying also. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 11, 2012, 02:04:14 AM
Well, the main reason I took my sweet ass time getting the first part of OOT done was because I kept wandering around the Kokiri (?) Forest. It's a habit I have, just dilly dallying around until I finally bring myself to get whatever task done. :lol: And I use walkthroughs if needed. Overall, I don't mind the Deku Tree dungeon, even if it takes forever to finish. The Dodongo Cavern wasn't that great, and I personally hated Jabu Jabu's belly. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 11, 2012, 02:44:34 AM
Yeah, the Great Deku Tree dungeon was a good starting dungeon. It provided a good tutorial that didn't hold your hand through the whole temple. And there were some pretty complex parts to it also.

Dodongo's Cavern was forgettable, but it was definitely the most boring out of the bunch and the most linear also. I hate the King Dodongo fight also.

Jabu-Jabu is my least favorite though. While it was an interesting dungeon, I just hate everything about it. The enemies are annoying and I hate fighting those tentacles. And then you have to fight that giant Octopus. That fight was REAL hard the first time I faced him. Barinade was also a bitch to take down since you had so little hearts at that point in the game. And Ruto was a pain in the ass too.  :roll:

The Young Link portion of the game is more interesting later with the Bottom of the Well and the Spirit Temple.

The Bottom of the Well is so freaking creepy and I don't even want to know what went on down there.  :shock:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 11, 2012, 07:04:45 AM
So, who here hates Ruto? And more importantly, who is dumbfounded at her being a Sage?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 11, 2012, 10:41:36 AM
So, does anyone play Twilight Princess?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 11, 2012, 11:43:24 AM
So, who here hates Ruto? And more importantly, who is dumbfounded at her being a Sage?

*raises hand*

I hate Ruto also. I hate carrying her around Jabu-Jabu's Belly and it is so easy to lose in her many places, like in that room with all the Jellyfish and all the fleshy holes in the ground. And she then gets mad at you when leave her behind or drop her. Its just a chore to carry her around. As for her being a sage, I was not surprised at all. I mean Saria and Darunia were sages, so there was no doubt that Ruto was a sage. As for why she was chosen to be sage, I would like an answer for that too.

So, does anyone play Twilight Princess?

I have played the game before, but that was a long time ago. It has a feeling similar to OoT, but there are different gameplay mechanics and characters in the game. But when you play it, there is just so many similarities to OoT.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 11, 2012, 11:46:41 AM
I just left Kokiri Forest right now in OoT. And then I ran into my most hated character in this game next to Ruto... that FRIGGIN' OWL!  :? :roll:

I forgot how much I hate him. He is worst than Navi and Ruto combined. I hate how he asks you to repeat the stuff he says to you again. I accidentally hit "Yes" and I had to scroll through his story again. Oh well, onto Kakariko Village. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 11, 2012, 12:05:40 PM
I just left Kokiri Forest right now in OoT. And then I ran into my most hated character in this game next to Ruto... that FRIGGIN' OWL!  :? :roll:

I forgot how much I hate him. He is worst than Navi and Ruto combined. I hate how he asks you to repeat the stuff he says to you again. I accidentally hit "Yes" and I had to scroll through his story again. Oh well, onto Kakariko Village. :roll:
Kaepora Gaebora aka the owl who states the obvious. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 11, 2012, 12:10:35 PM
As for the Sages:

Saria: Understandable since she's Link's friend and understands the spirits.
Darunia: As the leader of the Gorons, of course.
Ruto: Just because she's a princess. Yeesh.
Impa: As the leader of the Sheikah and being wsie, this is a given.
Nabooru: Second in command to Ganondorf and steals only to help the misfortunate, it's understandable.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 11, 2012, 03:28:03 PM
IIRC, the game states that the temples in their respective areas are the ones that choose the Sages for each temple.  So people like Saria and Darunia had no idea that they were Sages at the time because they were not awakened yet. It was only when Link defeated the evil inside the temple was when the Sages were finally awakened. Anyways, here is my reasoning behind why each person was chosen as a Sage:

Saria: Out of all the children in Kokiri Forest, she was the one that was the most knowledgable and connected with the Forest. She knew many things other people in the forest didn't know and even knew information about outside of Kokiri Forest. It is only fitting for her to be Sage.

Darunia: He was a strong warrior that was willing to sacrifice his life for his own people. He is also part of a line that includes a Legendary Goron, so he has deeper roots than any other Goron in Death Mountain.

Ruto: I agree with you on this one. I am not sure why she was chosen to be a Sage other than the fact that she is part of a royal lineage. But I guess the choices were between her and King Zora. King Zora was too oblivious and incompetent to be a Sage though, so I guess Ruto was the next best choice.

Impa: She was the protector of the Royal Family and opened up Kakariko Village for the less fortunate. She was also very strong and had a good knowledge of Hyrule's past. It was so obvious that Sheik knew that she was the Sage.

Nabooru: While she was second in command for a group of thieves, she didn't approve of anything that Ganondorf was doing. She was willing to thwart Ganondorf's plans in order to save her own people from his crimes. So in a way, she was wise enough to look past her position and cared for her people. So her cause was to help the less than fortunate ones where Ganondorf was committing crimes to get his own way.

So yeah, out of all those Sages, Ruto was the one that made the least sense. :o
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 11, 2012, 03:32:15 PM
Okay, in a nutshell:

- Yes I also hate Ruto. I hated carrying her around, and she was so annoying. Plus, she looks like she's a butt naked human being. Creepy.
- TOTAL WORD on that owl too. I hate hate hate hate hate HATE that owl. He always follows you around and states the obvious. It's like, STFU and let me play my game, okay?
- I love Kakiriko (sp?) Village. I remember when I was a kid I used to purposely terrorize the chickens. To the point where they'd get pissed off and attack you. I know, I was a sociopath as a kid. :lol:

I can't wait to reply this game. I'll probably start sometime tonight. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 11, 2012, 03:38:46 PM
I am pretty sure we all have terrorized the Cuccos before.  :mrred:

I love Kakariko Village also. Its such a mysterious small village that is built right near an ancient temple full of dead beings. I really wish they would've gave more backstory about the Shadow Temple, Bottom of the Well, and the rest of the village.  :o :P

And speaking of Ruto being naked, I heard they made her clothed for the 3DS version of the game. I am not sure though since I don't have that version of the game.  :o
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 11, 2012, 03:45:10 PM
I'm sure a picture of clothes Ruto is easily Googlable. I mean, there WAS a clothed Ruto like character in MM. She appeared right around the time you start Great Bay Temple.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Bandit King on July 11, 2012, 09:02:27 PM
Just purchased OOT for the Wii. I might re-play it this weekend if there's nothing better to do. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 11, 2012, 10:14:02 PM
Well, I just got done with the Deku Tree hoopla. And I got to say, both the dungeon AND boss were easier the second time around. I didn't peak at walkthroughs once and didn't have even a single death. Last time I played this, I died 4 times before I was done with the Deku Tree. :lol: I guess you can say I'm getting better at this game.

And I'm lucky I downloaded Project 64 and just played it on my computer. Saves me the time from buying the game itself and having to screw around with my brother's Wii to get it working. In Project 64, there's a section you go to where you can use cheats. The only one I've used so far is "Press L to levitate." It's only for the emulator I downloaded, I doubt you'll find cheats to those of you who use Wii. Yeah, I suck for using a cheat. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 12, 2012, 01:08:43 AM
Yeah, the Great Deku Tree is definitely not hard the second time around. The dungeon is kind of sluggish though with Navi giving you instructions in every room and almost every room has some sort of puzzle. Also, those mini Spiders were creepy as hell the first time you play through that dungeon.

As for me, I am at Death Mountain right now trying to get the Goron Bracelet. Now I have to backtrack all the way to the Lost Woods and get Saria's Song then race all the way back to Death Mountain. The early portion of the game is such a chore and I hate running between different areas to get one item. I cannot wait to get the warp songs. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 12, 2012, 01:16:10 AM
Dang, you're fast. And I still have yet to talk to Princess Zelda. :lol: I'll definitely do that tomorrow. And yeah, Navi was kind of annoying. I did appreciate some of the help she gave me, considering it's been over a year since I last played. Plus, my memory kind of sucks. But I got the hang of everything very quickly.

And yeah, I remember the Goron Bracelet thing. I also remember the Forest Song you have to learn from Saria. My favorite part of it all is the 1 minute dance the huge Goron dude does the second he hears it. So I guess it's worth it at the end. XD
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Silver Monkey on July 12, 2012, 01:17:34 AM
THE LEGEND OF ZELDA RAP [MUSIC VIDEO] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO1QBTG6EXs#ws)

Legend of Zelda? LEGEND OF LINK!
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 12, 2012, 02:36:52 AM
I personally like the Zelda part of the game where you must get pass the guards. The guards are so incompetent and the music that goes along with it was funny too. It was much better than the stealth part in the Deku Palace in Majora's Mask.

I already got the Goron Bracelet now from Darunia. And yes PPF, I got to see Darunia dance also. Who knew that a song could turn someone so wild? But it was still funny and changed the mood about the whole Death Mountain situation.

And before I go into Dodongo's Cavern, I am on my way to get the Sun's Song from the Royal Family Tomb. I admit that part legitimately scared me when I was younger. The ReDeads were fucking creepy back in the day and what the hell is that green stuff? Its like you can't get by that room without taking damage from one of those things. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 12, 2012, 02:46:10 AM
Ooooh I love that part! The music that plays when you have to get past the guard is one of my favorites in the whole series. Seriously, it's that catchy. I can listen to it all day and not get tired of it. Yeah, the guards are kind of dumb too. You can stand literally right in back of them, and they still won't notice you. I also like the "Zelda's lullaby" music. So calm and great.

And I remember the "Sun's Song" too. It's a catchy Ocarina tune, and it comes in very handy when you have to do a task at a certain day. And I hate the Redeads too. It's so annoying how they jump all over you and take away a lot of points off your health. Yeah, I really need to get with the program and catch up to you. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 12, 2012, 01:30:53 PM
ReDeads are annoying indeed and freaking creepy on top of that. I am not sure what the producers were thinking when they made that enemy.  :shock:

And yeah, you need to get your ass in gear and get to where I am at. j/k  :P But really though, I feel like I have hardly made any progress. I am still in Dodongo's Cavern at the moment and I just finished fighting those Lizard guys. I have not yet got the Bomb Bag yet and this dungeon is just so boring and hard to playthrough. The pacing for the child portion of the game is so slow.  :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 12, 2012, 01:36:06 PM
Here's an interesting topic that someone brought up on another site:

Do the Sages in OoT die at the end of the game? I mean after we complete their respective temples, we don't see the Sages again except only in the Sacred Realm. If you think about, it does make sense in a way:

Saria: She enters the Forest Temple and captured by the evil inside. I am assuming she would've died due to the monsters in the temple.
Darunia: We last see him entering Volvagia's Lair in order to stop Volvagia. When we fight Volvagia, we don't see him again.
Ruto: We see her in the Water Temple float off to the top of the temple, but don't see her again after that.  She might've been killed by the monsters in the temple.
Impa: She went off to the Shadow Temple in order to seal Bongo Bongo and the evil on the way. She probably got killed inside the temple once again.
Nabooru: We see her before fighting Kotake and Koume as an Iron Knuckle. But then the two Witches send her off to somewhere with a magical blast of some sort.

So that might mean the Sages at the end of the game are actually spirits and no longer own a physical body. I am not saying that any of this is true, but it is an interesting theory.  :o
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 12, 2012, 03:59:05 PM
Wow, that is interesting. :o It would sure explain why we never saw them again after their respective temples were complete. As for progress in the game, wow you're already halfway through Dodongo's Cavern? As soon as I resume playing, no more messing around. I'm gonna talk to the princess, get the bomb bracelet from the Gorons, then start the Cavern. It shouldn't be too tedious of a task.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 12, 2012, 06:15:08 PM
Did you guys just confess to abusing the chickens???











You're not alone. ;) I loved doing that in Link's Awakening and Link To The Past. It was absolutely hilarious getting slaughtered by them if they got attacked too much. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 12, 2012, 06:15:47 PM
Also, can anyone direct me to an efficient place that has the official timeline?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 12, 2012, 06:29:17 PM
Well, here's one I found:

(http://storage.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/zelda_timeline_thumb.jpg)

Maybe not the best example, but it's the only timeline to me that has remotely any credibility.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 12, 2012, 08:48:40 PM
Does anyone know where to get Nayru's Love?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 12, 2012, 09:03:03 PM
I have read the Zelda timeline before. It is indeed and an interesting read, but you need to play some of the games in order to make sense of it. Most notably, you have to play Ocarina of Time because that is where the timeline splits in two. I am tempted to buy "Skyward Sword" for the Wii because I am more interested behind the history of Hyrule now. :mrred:

Does anyone know where to get Nayru's Love?

You can find it in the Desert Colossus, right near the dried up oasis. There is a Great Fairy Fountain located behind a crack in the wall that needs bombed. ;)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 12, 2012, 09:59:59 PM
Well, I have finally reached Dodongo's Cavern. And I'm already not looking forward to it. Just one question though: Do you have to get Sun's Song at this point of the game now? I'm just wondering, since TRJ brought it up earlier.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 12, 2012, 11:21:20 PM
You have to go to the Kakariko Graveyard with Zelda's Lullaby. At the top of the Graveyard is a giant tombstone with a Triforce engraving in front of it. If you play Zelda's Lullaby on it, the tombstone will be struck by lightning and then you can enter the Royal Family's Tomb to get the Sun's Song. Becareful though of the ReDeads. ;)

And at the moment I am on Zora's River headed into Zora's Domain. I guess I will need to get the Silver Scale first though. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 13, 2012, 12:04:12 AM
You have to go to the Kakariko Graveyard with Zelda's Lullaby. At the top of the Graveyard is a giant tombstone with a Triforce engraving in front of it. If you play Zelda's Lullaby on it, the tombstone will be struck by lightning and then you can enter the Royal Family's Tomb to get the Sun's Song. Becareful though of the ReDeads. ;)

And at the moment I am on Zora's River headed into Zora's Domain. I guess I will need to get the Silver Scale first though. :roll:
I think the Sun's Song is useful at this point for a piece of heart. And please, waiting for the king to move out of the way is worse.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 13, 2012, 12:20:00 AM
Yeah, I know how to get it. I'm just making sure I'm doing everything in the right sequence. Like, you got it just before you reached Dodongo's Cavern. And I still have yet to learn the song. As soon as I'm done with the Cavern, I'll go learn the song.

Speaking of Dodongo's Cavern, I'm done with every aspect of the dungeon. I just need to fight the boss next. Like always, I'm trailing behind TRJ. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 13, 2012, 05:19:00 AM
I'm playing a new game. Yes, the child dungeons are boring, but Dodongo's Cavern isn't hard at all. You want hard, wait for the Water Temple.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 13, 2012, 05:44:31 AM
Sheesh, I beat Gohma without getting a scratch.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 13, 2012, 08:46:50 AM
Hmmm... the ZeldaDungeon walkthrough isn't that great after all. Rushes too much.

It now makes sense why there were torches at the Lost Woods Goron entrance. You blow up the entrance with a Deku Sitck fire. No wonder Krappy Drabby (the owl's nickname from me) was talking about that stuff.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 13, 2012, 11:15:14 AM
You know, there are multiple Links in the game. I wonder which ones are the same.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 13, 2012, 12:05:28 PM
I'm playing a new game. Yes, the child dungeons are boring, but Dodongo's Cavern isn't hard at all. You want hard, wait for the Water Temple.

Dodongo's Cavern is very linear and you pretty much know where you are going without having to worry about getting lost. All of the puzzles are self-explanatory too and aren't too complex like the later dungeons. I actually don't mind the Water Temple at all though. It is tedious and frustrating, but I like the challenge that th Water Temple tried to impose.

And at the moment, I just got Ruto's Letter in the bottle and now in Zora's Fountain about to enter Jabu-Jabu. For some reason though, I forgot to get a fish in order for him to open his mouth. And what were the producers thinking when they made that King Zora scene with him moving? Was that suppose to be funny to watch him move for about 30 seconds? I thought it was pretty annoying and dumb.  :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 13, 2012, 12:10:43 PM
Yeah, I know how to get it. I'm just making sure I'm doing everything in the right sequence. Like, you got it just before you reached Dodongo's Cavern. And I still have yet to learn the song. As soon as I'm done with the Cavern, I'll go learn the song.

Speaking of Dodongo's Cavern, I'm done with every aspect of the dungeon. I just need to fight the boss next. Like always, I'm trailing behind TRJ. :lol:

The Sun's Song is actually not required to beat the game at all. But it becomes very useful when you are traveling to different towns and areas and you need to change the time of day. It is also helpful against the ReDeads and mummy enemies. But yeah, there is a lot of stuff you can do in the game out of sequence. I am pretty sure you can get the Sun's Song as an adult. :o

Hmmm... the ZeldaDungeon walkthrough isn't that great after all. Rushes too much.

It now makes sense why there were torches at the Lost Woods Goron entrance. You blow up the entrance with a Deku Sitck fire. No wonder Krappy Drabby (the owl's nickname from me) was talking about that stuff.

I always figured that is what the torches were for. It is probably used as a shortcut to get to Saria in the Sacred Forest Meadow instead of going all the way back to Kokiri Forest. I don't think I have ever used them though because its hard to light a torch and light the bombs on time. But it is an interesting and time saving shortcut nevertheless.

You know, there are multiple Links in the game. I wonder which ones are the same.

I know OoT Child Link and MM Child Link are both the same Link. MM takes place shortly after the events of OoT and Link is trying to find Navi in MM.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 13, 2012, 06:35:02 PM
Alright, @ current discussion:

- Gohma is a pretty easy boss. When I beat it recently, I didn't get scratched much at all either. It was those miniature Gohma's that knocked a point or two off my health, but nothing too heinous.
- Dodongo is a pretty easy dungeon, like I said above I still have yet to beat the boss. I remember him being a pretty tedious boss, but I think I'll be fine as long as I have a fairy in a jar.
- And yeah, ZeldaDungeon isn't that great of a place for walkthroughs. In fact, I found that it confused me even more last time I replayed it. But so far, I haven't had to use any walkthroughs at all. I guess I work better without them. I might need them for the adult temples though.
- I agree about that Zora guy taking 30 seconds to move over. I'm sorry, but how is that funny? It just looks ridiculous to me.
- As far as Sun's Song goes, I'm definitely gonna learn it after I'm done with Dodongo. and I need to learn Epona's song and get another bottle/jar at Lon Lon Ranch. I'm gonna need all the bottles I can get for the later portion of the game.
- And I just used those bombs to blow up the Goron/Kokiri entrance. Unless you're talking about before, where you use a lit Deku Stick blow them up. I didn't do it that way.
- And both OOT and MM's Links are the same, like TRJ stated above.

And LOL at "Krapper Drabby." :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Bandit King on July 13, 2012, 11:32:29 PM
I'll be starting my attempt at OOT tomorrow morning. I'll only be able to play it on weekends, so I don't know how much I'll catch up with you guys. :?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 13, 2012, 11:34:02 PM
Okay, quick question: I'm at Jabu Jabu's Belly now. Do you have to get the boomerang before you fight the mini boss? Because I just defeated it without the boomerang, so I'm wondering if that's okay? I was extremely lucky though, I used a deku stick and dabbed him twice with it. Plus, those bottles of fairies came in handy. I'm just wondering if doing without the boomerang during the mini boss is okay. I'm definitely gonna make it a point to get that next though.

On another note, man what a HORRIBLE mini boss. It seriously took me a half hour to finally beat it. Reminds me all over again why I absolutely loathe this dungeon. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 14, 2012, 12:59:36 AM
Is it possible to make it to mini-boss without the Boomerang?  :shock: I thought you needed the Boomerang to get past those colored tentacles before fighting that giant Octorok. I haven't played in a while though, so I don't remember. But I remember the Deku Stick being more powerful than the sword when it came to that boss.  :lol:

And since PPF brought up the bottles, I felt that I needed to fix some loose ends up before completing Jabu-Jabu. I wanted to complete some sidequests like Epona's Song and collect a couple of the bottles. The Cucco game in Lon Lon Ranch didn't give me a hard time for once. But I swear I wasted an hour trying to get the Cuccos in Kakariko Village to Anju. It took me a long time to reach the Cuccos by the potion shop. And there was one all the way by the Windmill.

And I have seven hearts at the moment. I feel like I am missing a lot though because I remember I had 9 or 10 when entering Jabu-Jabu. I know I need to collect a few in Market Town and there is a couple in the Graveyard too. I guess I will get those after beating Jabu-Jabu though.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 14, 2012, 01:13:53 AM
I guess so, I was still allowed access to the mini boss sans Boomerang. I guess what I'm trying to ask is, where do you even go to get the Boomerang? I tried looking for it, but I have no idea where I'm going. If it's any consolation, at least I got rid of Ruto sooner by completing the mini boss early. I just hope going out of a sequence once again was normal. :|

And I currently have 6 hearts at the moment. And I'm already halfway done completing another heart container. I've already been to 2 different fairy fountains, where I got the Farore's (sp?) Wind and Din's fire. And I got two different jars. One from Lon Lon (I won the game on my second attempt), and one from the bottom of Hylia Lake after getting the scale. And I learned Sun Sun and Epona's song all before going to Jabu Jabu. I think I've finally caught up to you, TRJ. :mrred:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 14, 2012, 01:20:23 AM
You get the Boomerang in one of the rooms that is full of those flying Stingray enemies. When you defeat them, then you get the Boomerang. As for Ruto, I am pretty sure you need her help to push a switch near the Boomerang. But since you already defeat the mini-boss, I don't think there is a need to do that now.

And crap, I totally forgot about Farore's Wind also. :o Luckily that is in the same area as Jabu-Jabu is. But I want to get the two Heart Pieces from the Graveyard first. One of them is from the Grave Digging Tour, where you have to have the Graveyard keeper dig up the soil to find it. The second one is in an unmarked grave with a ReDead in it. Getting these two should get me two hearts.

And PPF, two things of note:

1. The Sun Sun? :mrred:

2. I have three jars at the moment, so you are still slacking behind. j/k :mrred:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 14, 2012, 01:22:04 AM
And speaking of the jars/bottles, has anyone ever collected all four of them? The fourth one you get as an adult where you must collect all the Big Poes from Hyrule Field. I never got all 10 of the Big Poes as it was just too tedious and time consuming to try and get. It wasn't worth it for a lousy bottle when I already had three. But this time I am striving for completion.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 14, 2012, 01:22:51 AM
On my way to the top of Death Mountain to find the Great Fairy.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 14, 2012, 01:39:36 AM
What were they thinking when they made those Great Fairies? Their titties are so sharp that they could poke an eye out.  :roll:

I am trying that stupid Treasure Chest game in Market Town, but I can't seem to win for jack.  :? I don't know how I ever won it the first time. The best I can get up to is the third room before getting the wrong treasure chest. I managed to get a Slingshot upgrade though from the Shooting Gallery with no problem.  :mrred:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 14, 2012, 01:51:10 AM
You get the Boomerang in one of the rooms that is full of those flying Stingray enemies. When you defeat them, then you get the Boomerang. As for Ruto, I am pretty sure you need her help to push a switch near the Boomerang. But since you already defeat the mini-boss, I don't think there is a need to do that now.
I'll do my best to look for it then. It's so easy to get lost in a Dungeon like Jabu Jabu, so it might take a while finding it. :roll:

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And crap, I totally forgot about Farore's Wind also. :o Luckily that is in the same area as Jabu-Jabu is. But I want to get the two Heart Pieces from the Graveyard first. One of them is from the Grave Digging Tour, where you have to have the Graveyard keeper dig up the soil to find it. The second one is in an unmarked grave with a ReDead in it. Getting these two should get me two hearts.
Farore's Wind is totally useless though. Maybe it's just me, but I could never for the life of me get it to work. There is another place to get a heart piece, and it's at the top near the graveyard where you crash into a box. I hope you know where I'm talking about.

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And PPF, two things of note:

1. The Sun Sun? :mrred:

2. I have three jars at the moment, so you are still slacking behind. j/k :mrred:
1. Sorry, typo on my part. :lol:

2. I do have three jars, sorry I didn't make that more clear. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 14, 2012, 01:54:23 AM
What were they thinking when they made those Great Fairies? Their titties are so sharp that they could poke an eye out.  :roll:

I am trying that stupid Treasure Chest game in Market Town, but I can't seem to win for jack.  :? I don't know how I ever won it the first time. The best I can get up to is the third room before getting the wrong treasure chest. I managed to get a Slingshot upgrade though from the Shooting Gallery with no problem.  :mrred:
Maybe the Lens of Truth could help?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 14, 2012, 01:56:40 AM
You get the Boomerang in one of the rooms that is full of those flying Stingray enemies. When you defeat them, then you get the Boomerang. As for Ruto, I am pretty sure you need her help to push a switch near the Boomerang. But since you already defeat the mini-boss, I don't think there is a need to do that now.
I'll do my best to look for it then. It's so easy to get lost in a Dungeon like Jabu Jabu, so it might take a while finding it. :roll:

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And crap, I totally forgot about Farore's Wind also. :o Luckily that is in the same area as Jabu-Jabu is. But I want to get the two Heart Pieces from the Graveyard first. One of them is from the Grave Digging Tour, where you have to have the Graveyard keeper dig up the soil to find it. The second one is in an unmarked grave with a ReDead in it. Getting these two should get me two hearts.
Farore's Wind is totally useless though. Maybe it's just me, but I could never for the life of me get it to work. There is another place to get a heart piece, and it's at the top near the graveyard where you crash into a box. I hope you know where I'm talking about.

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And PPF, two things of note:

1. The Sun Sun? :mrred:

2. I have three jars at the moment, so you are still slacking behind. j/k :mrred:
1. Sorry, typo on my part. :lol:

2. I do have three jars, sorry I didn't make that more clear. :P
You'll need the boomerang eventually to access the boss door.

And yes, Farore's Wind is useless. Din's Fire is the only spell that is useful.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 14, 2012, 02:25:03 AM
And speaking of the jars/bottles, has anyone ever collected all four of them? The fourth one you get as an adult where you must collect all the Big Poes from Hyrule Field. I never got all 10 of the Big Poes as it was just too tedious and time consuming to try and get. It wasn't worth it for a lousy bottle when I already had three. But this time I am striving for completion.
I think last time I replayed this, I tried to get that "Poe in a bottle." But I just gave up because it was too hard. Eventually, I used cheats to get the 4th one.

What were they thinking when they made those Great Fairies? Their titties are so sharp that they could poke an eye out.  :roll:

I am trying that stupid Treasure Chest game in Market Town, but I can't seem to win for jack.  :? I don't know how I ever won it the first time. The best I can get up to is the third room before getting the wrong treasure chest. I managed to get a Slingshot upgrade though from the Shooting Gallery with no problem.  :mrred:
Seriously! Plus, they look like they're almost completely naked. And they look like drag queens, not a kind of face I would want to look at 24/7. :roll: And I remember the Treasure Chest game, the only way to win it is to use the Lens of Truth.

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You'll need the boomerang eventually to access the boss door.

And yes, Farore's Wind is useless. Din's Fire is the only spell that is useful.
I know that, I'm just hoping this "doing things out of sequence" bit doesn't come back to bite me in the ass. I guess I just need to find the right room that gives it to you at the end.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 14, 2012, 08:58:53 AM
I have pulled the Master Sword out. And now......

...Hell will break loose for 7 years. Ganondorf touches the Triforce and it breaks into three. He holds the Triforce of Power in his hand while the Triforce of Wisdom and Courage are scattered somewhere. Volvagia has been reawakened, and Nabooru has been brainwashed. The Gerudo rules the world.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 14, 2012, 12:59:27 PM
Honestly, 2/3 of the magic spells are useless. Farore's Wind is useful if you are saving at a certain point in the dungeon and want to return their later. Except that is usually not a problem anyways because you can open up shortcuts in most dungeons. Din's Fire is pretty good, but I have not found myself using that spell yet. Nayru's Love is too gimmicky and you get it way too late in the game to use it.

And I can't believe you are already an Adult now. I am just entering Jabu-Jabu right now and have not got the Boomerang yet. I guess I need to step my game up now. :mrred:

Aand PPF, I think you need he Boomerang to fight Barinade anyways, so you better get to finding it. ;)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 14, 2012, 12:59:50 PM
Also...

Bombchu Bowling Alley  :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :? :? :? :? :? :?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 14, 2012, 01:37:20 PM
Also...

Bombchu Bowling Alley  :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :? :? :? :? :? :?
Stupid Cuccos! :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 14, 2012, 01:41:33 PM
I'm doing some parts before others right now.

I did some item trading. I've got the Poacher's Saw already.
I went to Goron City to get the Giant's Knife, the Goron Tunic and the Bolero of Fire to save time.
Right now, I've got the Iron Boots and the Serenade of Water. Later, I'm getting the Zora Tunic.

A lot of time saved. Especially since I hate the Ice Cavern. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 14, 2012, 02:36:16 PM
Honestly, 2/3 of the magic spells are useless. Farore's Wind is useful if you are saving at a certain point in the dungeon and want to return their later. Except that is usually not a problem anyways because you can open up shortcuts in most dungeons. Din's Fire is pretty good, but I have not found myself using that spell yet. Nayru's Love is too gimmicky and you get it way too late in the game to use it.
Yeah, what's the point of Nayru's Love again? You get it so late in the game, and I don't think I even used it very often last time I replayed it.

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And I can't believe you are already an Adult now. I am just entering Jabu-Jabu right now and have not got the Boomerang yet. I guess I need to step my game up now. :mrred:

And PPF, I think you need he Boomerang to fight Barinade anyways, so you better get to finding it. ;)
Yeah, looks like I've finally caught up to you. :mrred: I think all I need to do is find the room with the Boomerang. Otherwise, if I messed up by not getting it first, I'll have to use cheats to get it. And I don't like using too many cheats unless it's to levitate. :?

Also...

Bombchu Bowling Alley  :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :? :? :? :? :? :?
Stupid Cuccos! :roll:
I have a feeling I'm not gonna look forward to replaying that game. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 14, 2012, 02:41:21 PM
Done with Forest Temple, and it's so sad to tell Mido about Saria's fate.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 14, 2012, 02:51:11 PM
Forest Temple was pretty cool. Out of all the music this game had, I liked Forest Temple's background music the best. The boss is impossible though, I died 6 times trying to beat him last time I played this.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 14, 2012, 06:36:42 PM
Oh, and I have a question about the Hearts. I'm about ready to fight Jabu Jabu's boss, and the walkthroughs on Zelda Dungeon shows Link having 8 hearts. I only have 6 hearts. How many should you get to fight the boss and not die too easily?

By the way, I finally got the boomerang. I had to use cheats to get both that and the map and compass. I didn't want to resort to that, but I had no choice. It was the only way I could move on. Besides that, I have covered every other room.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 14, 2012, 08:33:01 PM
Oh, and I have a question about the Hearts. I'm about ready to fight Jabu Jabu's boss, and the walkthroughs on Zelda Dungeon shows Link having 8 hearts. I only have 6 hearts. How many should you get to fight the boss and not die too easily?

By the way, I finally got the boomerang. I had to use cheats to get both that and the map and compass. I didn't want to resort to that, but I had no choice. It was the only way I could move on. Besides that, I have covered every other room.
Should be enough to defeat the Boss.

Seriously, how did you advance so far without the boomerang?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 14, 2012, 09:53:54 PM
I've got the magic bar enhancement already. Gee, you're all behind.

And yes, Volvagia was super irritating. And the colors were blinding. I'm just glad for the colors in the Water Temple. If only the map of it wasn't so confusing.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 14, 2012, 10:05:21 PM
Gohma: Too easy. Can beaten without a scratch and in one cycle. As in, immediately after it climbs up the ceiling.
King Dodongo: Easy again. The Julia. Shield is a blessing.
Barinade: Oh God, this was irritating. The Bari were hard to avoid, and it was hard to hit the main body.
Phantom Ganon: Not so hard like people said. Just move to the side and shoot when he leaves the picture.
Volvagia: Super irritating, but not hard at all. The Megaton Hammer is a blessing.
Morpha: Jesus, this one is super hard. Stop with the tentacles and the excessive movement.
Bingo Bongo: Not so hard. But when it clenches it's fist, it's irritating.
Twinrova: Ugh! The two witches need to stop moving so much. I can't aim at all.
Ganondorf: How long does the tennis have to take? Also, it's too easy when he uses the charging attack.
Ganon: They weren't kidding. This is super easy. He has too many weaknesses.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 14, 2012, 11:04:59 PM
Well, I'm finally at the Forest Temple. And naturally, an adult now. Of course along the way, I stopped to get a few more heart pieces (I have 9 now), got Epona, and the hookshot. So I guess with the cheats I used, I automatically have the map, compass, AND keys to the Forest Temple. I sort of wanted to "earn" those keys, but I think there's a way to undo the "cheat."

I've got the magic bar enhancement already. Gee, you're all behind.
Yeah, I guess we are. I'm just surprised at how fast I've progressed in this game. I started this game three days ago and I'm already at Forest Temple. Last time I replayed this, it took me 2 weeks just to get to that point. XD I definitely want to get the bar enhancement now, but I know that will have to wait.

Gohma: Too easy. Can beaten without a scratch and in one cycle. As in, immediately after it climbs up the ceiling.
King Dodongo: Easy again. The Julia. Shield is a blessing.
Barinade: Oh God, this was irritating. The Bari were hard to avoid, and it was hard to hit the main body.
Phantom Ganon: Not so hard like people said. Just move to the side and shoot when he leaves the picture.
Volvagia: Super irritating, but not hard at all. The Megaton Hammer is a blessing.
Morpha: Jesus, this one is super hard. Stop with the tentacles and the excessive movement.
Bingo Bongo: Not so hard. But when it clenches it's fist, it's irritating.
Twinrova: Ugh! The two witches need to stop moving so much. I can't aim at all.
Ganondorf: How long does the tennis have to take? Also, it's too easy when he uses the charging attack.
Ganon: They weren't kidding. This is super easy. He has too many weaknesses.

Gohma: Agreed. I think the only thing that hit me were those mini Gohmas.
King Dodongo: Agree, but it's annoying when it rolls around.
Barinade: Yeah, this one was REALLY irritating. Surprisingly enough, I didn't die once. I had maybe 2 hearts left when I finally beat it, but I didn't even need a fairy jar. And I still have some left over.
Phantom Ganon: I remember it being pretty hard, I'll just wait and see when I get to that point.
Volvagia: I found this one pretty irritating. If you get in the way of the fire, you'll lose A LOT of health.
Morpha: I actually found this one easy. In fact, when I last replayed this, this was the boss where I died the least.
Bongo Bongo: He was easy too, kind of annoying when he bangs his fists though.
Twinrova: This one was irritating, they move around too much like you said.
Ganondorf: I remember having a hard time with him, the constant swinging back and forth gets pretty annoying.
Ganon: I also had a hard time with this one, but again, I'll have to wait and see when I get there.

Needless to say, I've gotten A LOT better at this game since last replay. Before, I died 10 (if that) times before I even reached the peak of the game. But at this point, I haven't died once. And I swear I don't use cheats on bosses, just fairy jars. And even THAT isn't needed with me. I know this may not be totally impressive, but considering my death count (being 47) last time I played, it's still worth noting.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 14, 2012, 11:28:16 PM
I'm going to the Water Temple now. Good luck to me because this is the worst dungeon ever.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Bandit King on July 14, 2012, 11:35:37 PM
Yeah...from what I remember, the Water Temple is a pain in the butt to get through.

I made it through the Deku Tree dungeon today. My goal is to make it through one dungeon a day on the weekends...which will probably come back to bite me in the backside once I get to later areas. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 14, 2012, 11:53:18 PM
Yeah...from what I remember, the Water Temple is a pain in the butt to get through.

I made it through the Deku Tree dungeon today. My goal is to make it through one dungeon a day on the weekends...which will probably come back to bite me in the backside once I get to later areas. :lol:
One day every weekend? You'll never catch up. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Toltendo on July 15, 2012, 12:08:01 AM
Despite playing the Ocarina of Time on the N64 and having lots of fun, I've more akin to the Game Boy/DS versions of Legend of Zelda. Maybe it's because playing Zelda on a portable device have me more enjoyment in a portable device was more joyful than offering me a more visually appealing game on the big screen.

I think playing playing portable versions of the game now remind me as if I were reading a book and playing the console version was like watching a movie. It's ironic that I now read more and enjoy it, but hopefully there will be a new 3DS version of Zelda, other than the remake.

Legend of Zelda Shooting Gallery ?????? ???? sight-read by Tom Brier (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMaKe3CuW2Y#ws)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 15, 2012, 12:35:47 AM
Yeah...from what I remember, the Water Temple is a pain in the butt to get through.

I made it through the Deku Tree dungeon today. My goal is to make it through one dungeon a day on the weekends...which will probably come back to bite me in the backside once I get to later areas. :lol:
One day every weekend? You'll never catch up. :P
Yeah, that's like how slowly I played the game on last replay. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 15, 2012, 12:43:41 AM

Gohma: Too easy. Can beaten without a scratch and in one cycle. As in, immediately after it climbs up the ceiling.
King Dodongo: Easy again. The Julia. Shield is a blessing.
Barinade: Oh God, this was irritating. The Bari were hard to avoid, and it was hard to hit the main body.
Phantom Ganon: Not so hard like people said. Just move to the side and shoot when he leaves the picture.
Volvagia: Super irritating, but not hard at all. The Megaton Hammer is a blessing.
Morpha: Jesus, this one is super hard. Stop with the tentacles and the excessive movement.
Bingo Bongo: Not so hard. But when it clenches it's fist, it's irritating.
Twinrova: Ugh! The two witches need to stop moving so much. I can't aim at all.
Ganondorf: How long does the tennis have to take? Also, it's too easy when he uses the charging attack.
Ganon: They weren't kidding. This is super easy. He has too many weaknesses.

Gohma: Agreed. I think the only thing that hit me were those mini Gohmas.
King Dodongo: Agree, but it's annoying when it rolls around.
Barinade: Yeah, this one was REALLY irritating. Surprisingly enough, I didn't die once. I had maybe 2 hearts left when I finally beat it, but I didn't even need a fairy jar. And I still have some left over.
Phantom Ganon: I remember it being pretty hard, I'll just wait and see when I get to that point.
Volvagia: I found this one pretty irritating. If you get in the way of the fire, you'll lose A LOT of health.
Morpha: I actually found this one easy. In fact, when I last replayed this, this was the boss where I died the least.
Bongo Bongo: He was easy too, kind of annoying when he bangs his fists though.
Twinrova: This one was irritating, they move around too much like you said.
Ganondorf: I remember having a hard time with him, the constant swinging back and forth gets pretty annoying.
Ganon: I also had a hard time with this one, but again, I'll have to wait and see when I get there.

Needless to say, I've gotten A LOT better at this game since last replay. Before, I died 10 (if that) times before I even reached the peak of the game. But at this point, I haven't died once. And I swear I don't use cheats on bosses, just fairy jars. And even THAT isn't needed with me. I know this may not be totally impressive, but considering my death count (being 47) last time I played, it's still worth noting.

Here's what I think:

Gohma: She was a good first boss in the game. She was definitely not easy on your first playthrough, but she is still respectable nevertheless.
King Dodongo: This boss fight sucked and was annoying. All you had to do was throw a bomb in its mouth when it opened up and then hide in corners when it rolled around.
Barinade: There are way too many weak points for you to hit, so it makes it hard to try and attack the next weak target point next. Plus, its annoying when it moves around.
Phantom Ganon: The horse part is not too hard, but the tennis part gave me trouble. It takes good timing to reflect the energy blast back at him. It was still a good boss fight though.
Volvagia: I hate this boss fight, you can lose a lot of health from his fire breath. And the rocks are hard to avoid also.
Morpha: This boss fight is more frustrating and hard. It is hard to hook onto the nucleus because it moves around and then you have to worry about the other tentacles. But I found that you can drag the nucleus into the corner and slash it to death.
Bongo Bongo: This was a pretty easy boss for the fourth adult dungeon in the game. He was still creepy and fun to face though.
Twinrova: This was my favorite boss fight in the game. The witches were funny and the battle was very creative. It made use of the Mirror Shield very well.
Ganondorf: This was Phantom Ganon 2.0 but with different attacks. It was annoying to fall down to the bottom though after you stun him. :roll:
Ganon: The difficulty varies depending on how much ammunition, health, and magic that you have. But like mentioned, he has a lot of weak points to expose though.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 15, 2012, 12:48:32 AM
I'm going to the Water Temple now. Good luck to me because this is the worst dungeon ever.

I personally don't find it to be the worst dungeon in the game. I mean it is a headache to try and find all the keys, but you will eventally find everything you need though. At least it has one redeeming point: Dark Link. I say that the Fire Temple, Dodongo's Cavern, and Jabu-Jabu were worst

Anyways, I am only halfway through Jabu-Jabu's Belly right now. What the hell? I never remember having this much problem. Its just so annoying to try and find those colored tentacles and defeat them to get to new areas. I am trying to find the green colored tentacle, but I just can't seem to find it. And it is so easy to mess up in this dungeon. I think I have fell down those "holes" in the ground five times now thanks to those jellyfish. And then you can't leave Ruto alone somewhere without losing her or giving you a hard time. F*** Jabu-Jabu's Belly, I hope you die from all of those creatures inside. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 15, 2012, 01:00:18 AM
Anyways, I am only halfway through Jabu-Jabu's Belly right now. What the hell? I never remember having this much problem. Its just so annoying to try and find those colored tentacles and defeat them to get to new areas. I am trying to find the green colored tentacle, but I just can't seem to find it. And it is so easy to mess up in this dungeon. I think I have fell down those "holes" in the ground five times now thanks to those jellyfish. And then you can't leave Ruto alone somewhere without losing her or giving you a hard time. F*** Jabu-Jabu's Belly, I hope you die from all of those creatures inside. :roll:
SERIOUSLY! I am so glad to finally be done with that dungeon. Easily the worst dungeon ever in the whole game. To say I had a hard time getting around it when I finished it up this afternoon is an understatement. And it's very easy to mess up in this dungeon. Case in point, me doing the mini boss too early and not being allowed into the tentacle rooms. I guess it was worth it to lose Ruto early though. Oh well, at least I got the boomerang, map, and compass through cheats. :lol:

And the boss was surprisingly easy this time around. It was so irritating yes, but I didn't die once. :o
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 15, 2012, 01:25:33 AM
Ruto, Link will never marry you! You left him in the temple.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 15, 2012, 01:33:42 AM
Yeah, who would want to marry Ruto? So annoying and demanding. :roll:

And @ TRJ: hear hear to Jabu Jabu dying from all the creatures inside!
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 15, 2012, 02:21:04 AM
So I finally beat Jabu-Jabu's Belly. After finding that green tentacle, the rest of the way was simple. I had didn't have any trouble with the mini-boss this time around and defeated him with a jumping stab from the Deku Stick in one hit. Then getting to Barinade was simple. Fighting Barinade though was kind of a problem because there are so many things you need to hit like the tentacles on the roof and the rotating jellyfish. I got confused on the part when it spins around the room because I forgot you have to hit it with a sword after stunning it. Oh well, I still managed to beat it.

Now I just finished the Zelda scene from Market Town. I love that scene and I am debating whether to pull the Master Sword now or not. I love the Sheik introduction scene and everything, but that is a lot to sit through. But I am tempted to at least get the Hookshot before going to bed...
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 15, 2012, 02:32:15 AM
So I finally beat Jabu-Jabu's Belly. After finding that green tentacle, the rest of the way was simple. I had didn't have any trouble with the mini-boss this time around and defeated him with a jumping stab from the Deku Stick in one hit. Then getting to Barinade was simple. Fighting Barinade though was kind of a problem because there are so many things you need to hit like the tentacles on the roof and the rotating jellyfish. I got confused on the part when it spins around the room because I forgot you have to hit it with a sword after stunning it. Oh well, I still managed to beat it.
I see you got the inspiration to use the Deku Stick method from me. ;) Good job beating it though. After you're done with all the kid dungeons, this is when the game gets really interesting.

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Now I just finished the Zelda scene from Market Town. I love that scene and I am debating whether to pull the Master Sword now or not. I love the Sheik introduction scene and everything, but that is a lot to sit through. But I am tempted to at least get the Hookshot before going to bed...
Well, when I was done with the Zelda scene, I went straight to the Master Sword. It is a lot to sit through, but it's worth it in the end. It is seriously my favorite part of the whole game. This is basically where the climax is. Of course, it's up to you whether or not you want to pull the Master Sword. But I'd definitely recommend it. And be sure to get Epona from Lon Lon and possibly collect more heart pieces before you start the Forest Temple. :P
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Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 15, 2012, 04:24:48 AM
I'm left with Spirit and Shadow. I'll do Spirit first because I wanna follow the order according to the pedestal..
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Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 15, 2012, 04:34:59 AM
Still, I need the Lens of Truth, so...

Round and round the windmill goes... :mrteal:

I'm just glad for Biggoron's Sword.
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Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 15, 2012, 09:31:46 AM
I love that Twilight Princess allows Bomb arrows, a Gale Boomerang, Water Bombs and a wolf form.
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 15, 2012, 01:41:43 PM
I stayed up late playing quite a bit of the adult portion of the game which includes getting the Hookshot and heading towards Death Mountain to take on the Fire Temple.

So, I was racing against Dampe in the Kakariko Graveyard for the Hookshot and I never noticed that there were ReDeads down there during the race. :o I ran into a deadend in one area of the race and I ran straight into the ReDead and it made literally go "What the F***!". So yeah, next time I race him, I will be sure to follow him directly.

Otherwise, I am getting ready for the Fire Temple. I want to do this temple first before doing the Forest Temple as I hate the Fire Temple.  :x
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 15, 2012, 03:42:27 PM
Meh, I like doing it in the correct order. I know which temple you do first doesn't matter, but I just think doing Forest Temple first makes the most sense.

Also, do you learn the "Temple of Time" warp point after you finish Forest Temple? I've learned Song of Time and the Forest Temple warp point. But for some reason, I don't remember learning the "Temple of Time" song. It must be coming up soon though.
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Post by: The Bandit King on July 15, 2012, 04:31:32 PM
Yeah...from what I remember, the Water Temple is a pain in the butt to get through.

I made it through the Deku Tree dungeon today. My goal is to make it through one dungeon a day on the weekends...which will probably come back to bite me in the backside once I get to later areas. :lol:
One day every weekend? You'll never catch up. :P
Hey, it's the best I can do with a steady job. :lol:
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 15, 2012, 05:07:57 PM
Meh, I like doing it in the correct order. I know which temple you do first doesn't matter, but I just think doing Forest Temple first makes the most sense.

Also, do you learn the "Temple of Time" warp point after you finish Forest Temple? I've learned Song of Time and the Forest Temple warp point. But for some reason, I don't remember learning the "Temple of Time" song. It must be coming up soon though.

I usually do the Forest Temple first also and the Fire Temple next. But I just wanted to get the Fire Temple out of the way since its my least favorite temple. Plus, it was closer to the Hookshot anyways, so I thought why not kill two birds with one stone?  :mrred:

And to answer your other question, I am pretty sure you need to beat the Forest Temple first before learning "The Prelude of Light". Otherwise, Sheik will be standing in the Temple of Time telling you to save Saria. Once you beat the Forest Temple, she will teach you the song and allow you to go back in time if you need to. ;)
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 15, 2012, 05:10:05 PM
As for me, I am in the Fire Temple and it is making me mad. I was in the room with the Megaton Hammer where you must reach the Treasure Chest before the time is up. Well, the path to the Megaton Hammer treasure chest is so narrow that Link jumps off if you are not careful. Well I was careless and jumped all the way to the bottom of the temple.  :roll: :? :cry:

Next time I will just use Farore's Wind if that happens again. What a load of BS.
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 15, 2012, 05:35:23 PM
And to answer your other question, I am pretty sure you need to beat the Forest Temple first before learning "The Prelude of Light". Otherwise, Sheik will be standing in the Temple of Time telling you to save Saria. Once you beat the Forest Temple, she will teach you the song and allow you to go back in time if you need to. ;)
Yeah, that's what I thought. I was thinking "wait, don't they have another warp song that brings you back to the temple of time?" Fair enough, I can wait until I'm done with the temple. ;)

As for me, I am in the Fire Temple and it is making me mad. I was in the room with the Megaton Hammer where you must reach the Treasure Chest before the time is up. Well, the path to the Megaton Hammer treasure chest is so narrow that Link jumps off if you are not careful. Well I was careless and jumped all the way to the bottom of the temple.  :roll: :? :cry:

Next time I will just use Farore's Wind if that happens again. What a load of BS.
Oh my GOD that's a terrible room. I swear, last time I played this, I spent literally, over an hour trying to get to the hammer. I kept falling and having to go all the way back. It was so annoying. Yeah, I'll probably end up using Farore's Wind or I'll just "levitate" to get it. The things you have to do with one major item. :roll:
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 15, 2012, 05:43:43 PM
I don't remember spending that long on it for the Megaton Hammer, but I remember trying 6-7 times to try and get it though. If you take your time a little bit while running up that path, it is not so bad.

At the moment though, I am fighting my second Flare Dancers. They're not that hard to defeat and its even funny to watch them run around while trying to slash them with a sword. The producers sure had some fun when making some of these enemies.   :lol:

And I just lost my Shield to a Like Like.  :roll:
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 15, 2012, 06:17:42 PM
Oh I hated those Like Likes. You literally can't leave the "room" until you defeat them. Otherwise, you'll lose your shield and tunic you were wearing. I don't think I ever had that problem though.

And I remember those Flare Dancers. They were pretty easy to beat, and yeah it is funny to watch them run around when you try to kill them. :lol:
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Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 15, 2012, 08:38:04 PM
So TRJ, you're gonna ignore the Fairy Bow?
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Post by: The Bandit King on July 15, 2012, 09:37:15 PM
Made it through the Dodongo's Cavern earlier today, and I'll probably still be in Jabu-Jabu's Belly when I call it quits for tonight... :roll:
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 16, 2012, 12:01:11 AM
So TRJ, you're gonna ignore the Fairy Bow?
You actually don't need the Fairy Bow for the Fire Temple at all. I have beaten the Fire Temple a few times before the Forest Temple, so I definitely know its not needed. The only area that you really need it is to get an optional Dungeon Map, and I never bother collecting them anyways. Although its kind of a pain since you can't kill some enemies like those Torch Slugs. I will get the Fairy Bow for sure when I tackle the Forest Temple next  ;).

And now I am about to fight Volvagia after treading through the rest of the Fire Temple and rescuing the other Gorons. I have 9 hearts at the moment, so hopefully I don't do too bad... :o
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 16, 2012, 12:41:15 AM
I also have 9 hearts at the moment. And I'm done treading through Forest Temple, sans the boss. I will probably get to that tomorrow. I've already collected fairy bottles, though I should get one more. Also, remember when I had to use cheats to get the map and compass in Jabu Jabu? Apparently, that particular cheat carried on to Forest Temple. So I STILL got rewarded the compass, map, and all the keys (including the boss key) despite already having it. Kind of funny how that turns out. :lol:

If it's one thing I hate about the Forest Temple, it's those stupid ceiling claws. I swear, I got caught and thrown out of the temple a good 3-4 times before moving on from that section. :roll: Also, the third Poe (where you have to assemble the puzzle) is a pain. I think I had to restart the puzzle 3 times due to getting confused and moving the blocks a whole lot.
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 16, 2012, 01:41:31 AM
The ceiling claws are called Wallmasters I am pretty sure. I never really had a problem with them as you know when they are about to jump down at you since they make a noise. Either way, they are annoying and will pull you all the way back to start if your careful.

And yeah, I remember that third Poe puzzle. I don't see how the producers felt that one minute was enough to SLOWLY pull those boxes together to assemble the Poe. And if you run out of time? The pieces just rest and you have to start again. Although I guess having all the keys means you can skip half of the dungeon. But becareful of those twisting hallways.
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 16, 2012, 01:51:30 AM
Yeah, the Wallmasters. I'm always unlucky when it comes to those things. Though if I levitate throughout the room, it won't catch me. The Floormasters are even worse. Thankfully, the mini ones are easier to beat.

And I did not skip half the dungeon. I still have to unlock the doors, despite having so many extra keys. Definitely made the the temple feel a bit easier, so if I go out of order, that's okay. I totally agree about the puzzle too. You have about 1:30 to complete the puzzle. Though maybe that's only when you screw up the first time around. And you get extra time from it. I don't know, I already forget. XD
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 16, 2012, 02:02:43 AM
The crappy thing about the mini ones is that they will spawn into a big one if you are not careful. But they are more of a problem in the Shadow and Spirit Temple.

I just defeated Volvagia and didn't die once. I had a problem the first couple of times getting hit by his breath, but I learned to dodge it after the first couple of tries. This fight was very unexciting though and it was the same process throughout the whole fight. At least bosses like Phantom Ganon, Barinade, and Twinrova have different phases. Although I always enjoy the scenes with the Sages at the end. But I am glad to be done with the Fire Temple.

Next up is to head to Kokiri Forest to go to the Forest Temple. I hate going through that maze because those warrior things or whatever they are called are hard to get by. But I need the Fairy Bow bad!
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 16, 2012, 02:21:25 AM
Yeah, those warrior guard dudes are so annoying. If you hit them with your hookshot with their back turned, you should be okay. And don't even get me started on the guard right when you get to the temple/warp point entrance. :roll:

And, it looks like I need to catch up again. ;) We're about to swap places, and now I get to take on the Fire Temple. And yes, I also love the sages at the end. Hell, I even like to see the respective bosses get defeated. Before I go to Fire Temple though, I want to get some more skulltulas and try to mask trade off thing as a kid. For the former thing, I'm at a really pathetic total of 15 skulltulas defeated and I know where to get some as a kid.
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Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 16, 2012, 07:06:48 AM
The third ghost puzzle.was easy. Don't know what you're talking about.

Oh yeah, I'm done with Twinrova. Since I'm doing Spirit before Shadow, I have one more to complete. So, good luck catching up with me.
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 16, 2012, 09:48:40 AM
I haven't really bothered with the Golden Skulltulas unless they were right near Link. But I know some rooms make you go out of your way to get a Gold Skulltula Token. But I want to beat the main game first and maybe bother getting more of them.

Right now I made it as far as the Sacred Forest Meadow for the Forest Temple. The maze is annoying because you have to try and catch the Moblins when they are not looking for you. Or else they charge at Link and are unavoidable. The big one with the club didn't give me real trouble though.

I love the scenes with Sheik, but I think my favorite one is the one in the Sacred Forest Meadow with her. Just the wording of her sayings and the music just make it so memorable. Its like she knew that Saria and Link had a moment there when they were younger.

So how was doing Spirit before Shadow then? I think I have done that before a couple of times and it wasn't too hard. I know there is a Silver Rupee that is kind of hard to get without Hover Boots. But I wouldn't know since i haven't played that part of the game in a while.  :o
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Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 16, 2012, 11:21:46 AM
I haven't really bothered with the Golden Skulltulas unless they were right near Link. But I know some rooms make you go out of your way to get a Gold Skulltula Token. But I want to beat the main game first and maybe bother getting more of them.

Right now I made it as far as the Sacred Forest Meadow for the Forest Temple. The maze is annoying because you have to try and catch the Moblins when they are not looking for you. Or else they charge at Link and are unavoidable. The big one with the club didn't give me real trouble though.

I love the scenes with Sheik, but I think my favorite one is the one in the Sacred Forest Meadow with her. Just the wording of her sayings and the music just make it so memorable. Its like she knew that Saria and Link had a moment there when they were younger.

So how was doing Spirit before Shadow then? I think I have done that before a couple of times and it wasn't too hard. I know there is a Silver Rupee that is kind of hard to get without Hover Boots. But I wouldn't know since i haven't played that part of the game in a while.  :o
Sheik's a guy. Even Ruto mentions it. ;)

And yes, that Silver Rupee is hard to get. Jumping to the goddess's hands were no easy feat, but it's still manageable.
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Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 16, 2012, 11:23:23 AM
On another note, I'm done with the game!

Zelda: Ocarina of Time Music - Staff Roll (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPjLgDF1hUg#ws)
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 16, 2012, 03:45:46 PM
Dang, you breezed right through that. :o But then again, I just started replaying this game 5 days ago and I'm almost done with Forest Temple. At the rate I'm going, I'll probably be done with the game by this coming weekend.

The third ghost puzzle.was easy. Don't know what you're talking about.
The puzzle itself is easy, but it's annoying have to push the blocks around in so little time. Plus, it's annoying having to reshuffle if you mess up. All that aside, the puzzle itself was not much of a problem.

I haven't really bothered with the Golden Skulltulas unless they were right near Link. But I know some rooms make you go out of your way to get a Gold Skulltula Token. But I want to beat the main game first and maybe bother getting more of them.
Well, I just like doing side quests before getting to the main temple. I know you don't have to do it, I just like getting some extra stuff before moving on. ;)
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 16, 2012, 07:08:49 PM
I haven't really bothered with the Golden Skulltulas unless they were right near Link. But I know some rooms make you go out of your way to get a Gold Skulltula Token. But I want to beat the main game first and maybe bother getting more of them.

Right now I made it as far as the Sacred Forest Meadow for the Forest Temple. The maze is annoying because you have to try and catch the Moblins when they are not looking for you. Or else they charge at Link and are unavoidable. The big one with the club didn't give me real trouble though.

I love the scenes with Sheik, but I think my favorite one is the one in the Sacred Forest Meadow with her. Just the wording of her sayings and the music just make it so memorable. Its like she knew that Saria and Link had a moment there when they were younger.

So how was doing Spirit before Shadow then? I think I have done that before a couple of times and it wasn't too hard. I know there is a Silver Rupee that is kind of hard to get without Hover Boots. But I wouldn't know since i haven't played that part of the game in a while.  :o
Sheik's a guy. Even Ruto mentions it. ;)

And yes, that Silver Rupee is hard to get. Jumping to the goddess's hands were no easy feat, but it's still manageable.

I only call her a girl because in Super Smash Brothers Melee, Sheik's character is referred to as a girl. Ruto probably didn't know any better either when it came to Sheik. But either way, its obvious Sheik is suppose to look male due to being a disguise.

But yeah, I am in the Forest Temple right now and I just beated the group of Stalfos to get the Fairy Bow. Life is so much easier in this temple when you have the Fairy Bow. Those Flying Skulls with Flames are becoming a pest though. And it took me a while to drain the well in the courtyard and find the Small Key down there. :roll:

But I love the atmosphere to this temple. It looks like an abandoned castle in the middle of the forest. Why didn't Nintendo give any backstory on these temples? And the music is creepy and I love it!

Next up is to find the Boss Key and I know I have two more Poe Sisters to go.   :o
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 16, 2012, 08:32:02 PM
Yeah, I love the Forest Temple music. It's one of those melodies I could listen to all day and not get sick of it. And I wish we had a backstory on the temple too. It just has such a creepy feel to it. :o

And I still have yet to fight the boss. Definitely gonna get to that next, and then it's off to Fire Temple.
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 17, 2012, 12:02:41 AM
i got the Boss Key and beat the last Poe Sister, so now I am on my way to fight Phantom Ganon. I have 11 hearts at the moment, so I think that should be more than enough. This temple was more tricky than I remembered, but it was fun to playthrough nevertheless.

Next up I think I am going to go back in time and get the Lens of Truth from the Bottom of the Well and then go onto the Water Temple. I just want to get that out of the way and collect more Heart Pieces as a Child.
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 17, 2012, 01:17:32 AM
Well, as for my follow up:

- Beat Forest Temple's boss. It was pretty hard, but not as bad as it was last time I played it. The first bit though is SO ANNOYING. You really have to be fast with the arrows to attract Ganon down on the ground. Playing "tennis" with the energy blasts are pretty annoying, but slashing him when HE gets electrocuted is pretty easy. I ended up using 2/3 of my fairy jars. Man, I'm surprised I didn't die at all. :o
- I find it pretty funny how Daurina's kid is named after Link (well, the name you gave him). I could have done without the kid's incessant crying while explaining the situation though.
- Fire Temple is so tedious to get through. It's not as bad as I remembered, but there is so much to go through. I especially hate that room with the "fire" maze. I can't tell you how many times I got health deducted by running the wrong way. :roll:
- I surprisingly had little trouble with the "getting the hammer" room. I seriously got it on my second try, without the use of ANY cheats. You just have to be fast and NOT think about falling. That helped a lot with me.
- The "fire dancing" mini bosses are pretty funny. Easy to beat, but a little irritating running around the room trying to kill it. At one point, I ran out of bombs and had to wrap back to Death Mountain Crater just to stock up. When you beat it the second time, you get a butt load of bombs. So that sort of makes up for it.
- The last room I covered was on the 5th floor, where I thought I had forgotten to free a stray Goron. But when I got there and opened the chest, all I got was 200 rupees. But here's the catch, I was already maxed out on Rupees anyways. So that was a big fat waste of time on my part. -_-

Overall, I covered every aspect of the Fire Temple, and just have the boss left to beat. I'm not looking forward to this boss either. I know it's sort of an easy one, but having to play "whack a mole" just to kill it is gonna be quite annoying. As soon as I'm done with Fire Temple, I'm gonna go to the Fairy Fountain at Death Mountain Crater and get an extension on my magic meter. Something I so desperately need. Then, I'm gonna get some more heart pieces. Some I'll have to travel back in time as a kid to get. I might get the Lens of Truth like TRJ, so I can play that arcade game at the market. Then, it's Water Temple time. And I have 10 hearts currently. And that's my progress report. :P
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 17, 2012, 11:10:49 AM
I did manage to beat Phantom Ganon last night, but it took a whole fairy in order to get through him. I was having trouble with the "tennis" portion of the fight and just kept getting hit by his energy blasts. But once I got the hang of it, then I didn't have too much problem. Glad to get that boss out of the way.

Next up I am going to get the Lens of Truth from the Bottom of the Well rather than go right to the Ice Cavern. There are also more Magic Beans I like to plant as a Child and get more Heart Pieces.

And PPF, I have done that before where I got those Huge Rupees even though my wallet was full. But truth be told, its so easy to get rupees in this game that I wouldn't worry about it too much. ;)
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Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 17, 2012, 12:11:54 PM
I did manage to beat Phantom Ganon last night, but it took a whole fairy in order to get through him. I was having trouble with the "tennis" portion of the fight and just kept getting hit by his energy blasts. But once I got the hang of it, then I didn't have too much problem. Glad to get that boss out of the way.

Next up I am going to get the Lens of Truth from the Bottom of the Well rather than go right to the Ice Cavern. There are also more Magic Beans I like to plant as a Child and get more Heart Pieces.

And PPF, I have done that before where I got those Huge Rupees even though my wallet was full. But truth be told, its so easy to get rupees in this game that I wouldn't worry about it too much. ;)
It was annoying. Apparently, the trick is to not stand in the center. In both phases.

Btw, my progress at the end:
39 Skulttulas
16 Heart pieces
8 Heart containers
Biggoron Sword
All Fairy Upgrades

If this were Majora's Mask, you'd be wishing for Rupees. Let's warp back to the beginning and lose all weapons and money. And we'll add another irritating fairy named Tatl. Sorry, can I have Midna instead?
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 17, 2012, 03:28:37 PM
Next up I am going to get the Lens of Truth from the Bottom of the Well rather than go right to the Ice Cavern. There are also more Magic Beans I like to plant as a Child and get more Heart Pieces.
Yeah, that's probably what I'm going to do next once I go back in time. I want to plant one at Death Mountain Crater, even though as a kid you'll be under a time frame there. And yes I have one magic bean thing that I can plant that I still haven't used. I forgot about Ice Cavern too. When I was doing Jabu Jabu (well, before I started that dungeon), I wandered in there by accident. I didn't last too long in there, but I'll be sure to go there before Water Temple. Since that's where you get the Iron Boots and Blue tunic.

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And PPF, I have done that before where I got those Huge Rupees even though my wallet was full. But truth be told, its so easy to get rupees in this game that I wouldn't worry about it too much. ;)
Yeah, it's pretty annoying. But yeah, it's so easy to get Rupees like you said. Hell, you don't get an extension on the Wallet (carrying 500 Rupees) until the end of the game. So, collecting them isn't too big of a deal.

If this were Majora's Mask, you'd be wishing for Rupees. Let's warp back to the beginning and lose all weapons and money. And we'll add another irritating fairy named Tatl. Sorry, can I have Midna instead?
That is pretty annoying too. Losing everything when you go back in time. I agree about Tatl too, though I kind of like how Tatl and Tael are named. :lol:
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 18, 2012, 12:58:47 AM
The whole rupee and weapon ammo losing didn't really bother me in Majora's Mask. You had the Rupee Bank in Clock Town and you can find ammunition for your weapons easily. But I didn't like Tatl either, she was too snippy compared to Navi. Although I agree that Midna from Twilight Princess was the best.

And right now I just got done with the Bottom of the Well. All I have to say is... ARGH!!!!!!!!!!1  :x :x :x

You don't know how many times I have fell into those stupid invisible holes in the floor while trying to find the Room with the Lens of Truth. And worst of all, you always land next to a stupid ReDead when you fall down. There is so many holes that its easy to screw-up. And wow, this dungeon was more creepier than I remembered. Mounds of bones, coffins, torture devices, excessive blood? And this was rated "E" for Everyone?!

The Dead Hand is also freaking creepy. I didn't have too much trouble with him. And boy was I happy when I got the Lens of Truth! It really does make life so much easier for the Well and outside of it. Now I am about to cheat my way through the Treasure Chest game! :mrred:
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 18, 2012, 01:16:31 AM
Ugh, TOTAL WORD on the Bottom of the Well. Man, that was such a chore to get through. :roll: I lost count how many times I fell through those invisible holes before I got Lens of Truth. And when I left, I'm pretty sure there were 3 other chests I still had yet to open up. But by then, I was so fed up with the place that I ignored them. And yeah, those Redeads were annoying. I even got humped by one at least twice. Though if you play Sun's Song then slash them, you'll be okay. Creepy dungeon indeed.

And yes, Lens of Truth helps a lot. And yes, I also went straight to the market to cheat through the Treasure Chest game. :lol: I now have 12 hearts, and I have one more piece to go before I complete yet another heart container. Oh, and yes I beat the Fire Temple boss. It was much easier than last playthrough, but still pretty annoying to kill. I did have to use 1 out of the 2 fairy jars I had. Other than that, it was no problem. Ice Cavern was pretty easy, albeit annoying with every little enemy freezing you. So now I have my Iron Boots and the Water tunic. Which btw is my hands down favorite tunic ever. It looks great on Link, I'm not even kidding you. I have at least entered Water Temple, which will be my starting point next game. And I'm not quite looking forward to it, needless to say.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 18, 2012, 10:57:14 AM
I don't mind the Ice Cavern too much, except for in that room where you must push that giant block around. The enemies are extremely annoying like the Ice Bats and Freezards, but they aren't too hard to take down either. I will probably head there next once I fix up some loose ends as a Child.

And yes, I am kind of looking forward to getting the Water Temple out of the way. But more like I want to get the Dark Link fight out of the way.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 18, 2012, 03:51:31 PM
Yeah, the ice block room was sort of hard. I did get it on my second or third try, which was much better than how I did last time I replayed. :lol: The room I hated most was the one where you get the map. Too many Ice bats that attack you every 3 seconds. I hope you know which room I'm referring too. And yeah, I remember the mini boss, Dark Link. I probably should have gotten some fairies for when I reach that point too. Meh, maybe I'll teleport to Lake Hylia and get a couple just to be safe.

Also, I meant to ask this sooner, but have any of you attempted the Biggorn Sword yet? It's a REALLY tedious trade off where you have to traverse nearly the whole game just to get it. And then it takes a few more days just for it to be finished. I might get it as soon as I'm done with Water Temple, but I probably should have gotten it earlier. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 19, 2012, 02:08:35 AM
I honestly haven't even thought about the Biggoron Sword at all. I know the quest is kind of long and tedious and I don't even remember where the begin. I think you have to start with Anju in Kakariko Village and get Cojiro aka the blue Cucco? But I don't think I will bother with that one now because the last part of the quest involves getting the Eyedrops all the way to the top of Death Mountain, and that is a bitch to do. But I might attempt that after the Water Temple.

So yeah, I just finished the Ice Cavern and I totally forgot that you encounter Sheik there. I learned the Serenade of Water and got the Iron Boots. I also unthawed the Squeaky Butt King and got the Zora Tunic. Next up is to go to the Water Temple, which I have not entered yet. I need to remember to get the Fire Arrows after beating the Water Temple...  :?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 19, 2012, 02:23:35 AM
Yeah, you start by going to Kakariko by getting that cucco. I've already acquired the cucco, I just need to get that blue chicken. Not to mention, some of the trading sequences are timed. So you REALLY have to move to make the deadline. I'm gonna try my best not to use cheats to finish this. Man, I don't even know I finished it last time I replayed this. :shock:

As for me, I'm already done with Water Temple. (I know, I suck). :lol: Pretty tedious to go through, as predicted. Though if you think less about that and think more about which rooms to enter, it's not too bad. My least favorite part was the Dark Link. MAN was he a chore to beat. I had to use one, and almost TWO fairy jars to beat him. The rest of the temple is pretty simple after that. The boss was a breeze, though be careful not to get sucked in by those blue "tubes" on Morpha. Really, all you have to do is lure Morpha over with your hookshot and slash it. And no fairy jars wasted whatsoever. When I finished that, I got the fire arrows (which took me like, 3 or 4 attempts to get right), and got one more heart piece. There's a secret place where you can go to in Hyrule Field to get one. See walkthroughs if you require anymore detail.

Next, I'm gonna go back in time and learn (well, relearn) the Scarecrow song. I made one up, but stupid me forgot so now I have to do that task over. XD And then I'm gonna attempt Biggorn's Sword, which I know is gonna take forever to finish. And then finally, head to Shadow Temple. And.... that's my progress report of the day. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 19, 2012, 02:57:29 AM
I don't mind the timed parts that much, its just that its hard to make it "Point X" to "Point Y" when its halfway across Hyrule Field. The only way to beat those timed segments is to ride on Epona. The one where you have to take the Eye Drops to Death Mountain is the worst offendor of them all. I hate scaling the mountain with all the enemies and boulders.

Speaking of Epona, I have not gotten her yet. I don't know why I haven't gone to Lon Lon Ranch as an Adult, because that is one thing I usually do first when becoming one. But one thing I hate about getting Epona is that stupid race against Ingo. Its just so hard to beat him the second time around. You have to pace Epona when riding her and not waste all your carrots. I have a ton of stuff to do after the Water Temple. :?

Speaking of races, I hate that F***ING RACE IN DAMPE'S GRAVE TO GET THAT ONE HEART PIECE!  :x :x :x I have gotten that Heart Piece only once, and I still don't know how I did it. Apparently, you have to finish the race in under a minute. Well, the hard part is that it takes A LOT of skill to get that Heart Piece. I mean you have to memorize the maze and not trying to get hit by his flames. This is one heart piece I will probably not get.  :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 19, 2012, 03:02:46 AM
You haven't gotten her yet? :o I did that like, the second I became an adult. And I happened to win that race against Ingo. It was total dumb luck though, I literally won both times by a nose. I do like the ending where you have to escape with Epona. :lol:

And oh god, total word on that heart piece at Dampe's grave. MAN, when I last replayed this, I think I just got REALLY lucky when I finally did beat it. I did all the tricks right, and still came up short. I swear, I may just skip over that heart piece once I collect more. :roll:

I guess I really suck now, since I'm sort of ahead of the game. But rest assured knowing getting Biggorn's sword will probably eat up most of my playing time. XD
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 19, 2012, 10:23:30 AM
Zelda: Twilight Princess - BossBattle 08 Twilight Temple (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4-_4-b1tQE#)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 19, 2012, 04:21:32 PM
One thing I hate about the Water Temple is the constant changing of the Iron Boots and changing water levels of the temple. It just makes a sluggish pace for the temple. Those jumping spider enemies are annoying also. But other than that, I already made it to Dark Link and didn't have trouble this time finding that other Small Key. Part of the reason that it didn't take me so long was because I used the Dungeon Map and Compass this time around, so I sought out every Chest that was on the map. The one thing I always forget is the Small Key behind the bombed-wall on the second floor.

The Dark Link fight wasn't even hard. I read somewhere that if you use the Megaton Hammer on him, it makes the battle much easier. And indeed it did!  :mrgreen: Dark Link can't block the attacks from the Megaton Hammer, so the hits are always successful. Wish I knew about this a long time ago. :roll:

Now I am stuck in the room with the whirlpools. Its just so tricky to maneuver through this room without getting sucked in. :roll:

@RJF: I remember that battle with Zant, he was definitely a twisted character. Twilight Princess in general is such a dark game, almost as dark as Majora's Mask. He is such an awesome villain, but I still like Majora and Ganondorf slightly better. ;)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 19, 2012, 06:17:40 PM
The water changing doesn't bother me as much, but constantly changing boots is really annoying. I found Dark Link to be pretty hard, honestly. I wish I knew about using the hammer on him, then I wouldn't have had to waste a fairy jar thanks to him. The boss was a cake walk though, all you have to do is hookshot to lure, then slash at him/her.

And I've never played Twilight Princess before. Something's telling me it's a pretty good game.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 20, 2012, 01:13:32 AM
Twilight Princess is a great game and I enjoyed it, but it just didn't have the same charm as OoT and MM did for me. I mean I could go back and play OoT and MM from time and time again, while TP I have not completed after my first playthrough. Maybe I should play through it again?

Anyways, back to the Water Temple. I managed to beat Morpha with ease also. In my case though, I trapped Morpha and slashed the hell out of that mother f'er. So I didn't have to wait for it to come out of the water again. I remembered this time to get the Fire Arrows from Lake Hylia after beating the Water Temple too! Not like I really have a use for them, but I want to complete my inventory.

I managed to beat Ingo also. It took me two or three retries to beat him. The trick to the race is to not let Epona's carrots completely deplete, and always save at least one before it recharges again. So now I have Epona AND the Lens of Truth. Next to go start on the Biggoron's Sword quest. I already got the Poacher's Saw from the creepy boy in the Lost Woods, now to take it to the Carpenter in Gerudo Valley...  :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 20, 2012, 01:28:39 AM
Well, do what you want with Twilight Princess. Though, if you still want to replay OOT or MM side by side with anyone else here, I'd hold off on that. Of course, up to you. ;)

And yes, I completed my Biggoron trade fest and now have the sword itself. It's really not as hard as I thought it would be. But it's still so tedious having to go through almost every section of the game just to get stuff. And you can't teleport anywhere either. I remember last playthrough I almost ran out of time giving that Laboratory dude the frog. The problem is you have to stand literally in his face for him to accept it. But, this time I had 35 or so seconds to spare so it wasn't too much of a problem. After that was done, I went back in time and did the mask trade off. I was bored, and I sort of wanted that Mask of Truth, even if it's not that useful of an item. At one point, I accidentally forgot to wear the mask in front of that skull kid, and I guess he wanted to hear Saria's song. So I played it and got a heart piece out of it. So the whole trade off thing wasn't too much of a waste. I even got upgrades on deku nuts and deku sticks too. There's certain sections you can go to in the Lost Woods for that. I know it's pointless, but I did it anyways. :P

As of now, I've at least entered the Shadow Temple, I'll tackle on that tomorrow. And man, people weren't lying when they said it was a creepy temple. :shock:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 20, 2012, 03:24:00 AM
I don't even know where the game is at anyways. Even then, I want to try and jump into MM next since I also have that on my Virtual Console. :p

I don't want to enter the Shadow Temple quite yet either. I am contemplating whether if I want to save those ugly Carpenters from Gerudo Fortress or not. I also want to try and get the Gold Scale, but that is a pain in the butt to get though since its hard to catch the Hylian Bass or whatever it called. But I just want to get the Shadow Temple out of the way before I step foot into Gerudo Fortress since its not my most favorite temple in the first place.

And did anyone ever get the Ice Arrows from the Gerudo Training Grounds? I remember doing that and being highly disappointed that the Ice Arrows were the prize. Man, that was a pain to fine all the Small Keys and using them to unlock all the doors to the Ice Arrows. And I hardly foun any use for them.  :? :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 20, 2012, 03:29:01 PM
I'd do the Gerudo's Fortress bit after Shadow Temple. And yeah, the Ice Arrows are so pointless in the game. You don't get them until the end, and you don't use them once. I remember getting them, but it's so useless I don't think I touched them even once last playthrough I did. They're much more handy in Majora's Mask though.

And I've also attempted the Golden Scale, on two different occasions. Naturally, I failed at it both times I tried it. Apparently you only get the scale if you catch a 15+ pound fish. The biggest I've ever gotten was 7 pounds. It's a waste of time honestly. :roll: Though if you catch the 7 pound one as a kid, you get a heart piece. Maybe I'll try it one more time once I'm done with Shadow Temple.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 21, 2012, 12:53:20 AM
Well, I am half way done with the Shadow Temple. This temple is just a little too over-the-top for me now. They overdid it way too much with the horror theme. I mean everywhere you look there is some kind of torture device or dead enemy in your face. So I am already getting tired of this temple now and ready to get it over. I had no problem with the Dead Hand and getting the  pair of Hover Boots. I just crossed the ferry now and now I am about to find the Boss Key.

I hate those Floormasters more than anything else in this temple. Ugh, when they split up into little hands, you have to get rid of them quick or else they will grow bigger. I can't wait to fight Bongo Bongo and get it all done. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 21, 2012, 01:19:32 AM
Yeah, Shadow Temple is just creepy as hell. They did overdo it, I mean.... a Redead in nearly every "find a key" room? And I'd like to congratulate Bongo Bongo for giving me my first death in the game. Man, I didn't have NEARLY as much trouble beating it last time I replayed it. And that's saying a lot considering the humiliating death toll I had last playthrough. :lol: After gathering a bunch of fairies, and getting back to the boss, the second time around I beat him no problem. After going through all the trouble of gathering fairies, I don't even need them. Figures. XD
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 21, 2012, 08:47:15 AM
I was able to get Twilight Princess. I'm in Faron Woods searching for Talo.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Bandit King on July 21, 2012, 10:00:43 AM
Well, due to our phone and internet being out for a couple of days this past week, I decided I'd catch up on OoT.  I made it past Jabu-Jabu's belly and into the adult part of the game, and also finished the Forest Temple.

Currently, I'm working my way through the Fire Temple--and I've forgotten how annoying those Flare Dancers can be if you don't kill them quickly. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 21, 2012, 11:22:36 AM
Well, due to our phone and internet being out for a couple of days this past week, I decided I'd catch up on OoT.  I made it past Jabu-Jabu's belly and into the adult part of the game, and also finished the Forest Temple.

Currently, I'm working my way through the Fire Temple--and I've forgotten how annoying those Flare Dancers can be if you don't kill them quickly. :lol:
And if you do kill them, they'll still try to explode in your face. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 21, 2012, 03:27:34 PM
Yeah, Shadow Temple is just creepy as hell. They did overdo it, I mean.... a Redead in nearly every "find a key" room? And I'd like to congratulate Bongo Bongo for giving me my first death in the game. Man, I didn't have NEARLY as much trouble beating it last time I replayed it. And that's saying a lot considering the humiliating death toll I had last playthrough. :lol: After gathering a bunch of fairies, and getting back to the boss, the second time around I beat him no problem. After going through all the trouble of gathering fairies, I don't even need them. Figures. XD

You had trouble with Bongo Bongo? I defeated him relatively easy. All you do is shoot the hands and then shoot the "Red Eye" when it comes at you. I don't think I ever had trouble with him. And when you hit him, he will give out Arrows and Magic Jars, so its not like you have to worry about running low on that. Either way, I finished the Shadow Temple this morning and glad to get it out of the way.

I am off to the Gerudo Fortress now to save those fat ugly carpenters. I hate fighting those stupid Gerudo women with the swords... :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 21, 2012, 03:28:25 PM
I was able to get Twilight Princess. I'm in Faron Woods searching for Talo.

Good luck with the beginning portion of the game. It was very sluggish for me when I remember last playing it. But once you turn back into a human, then the game starts to pick-up.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 21, 2012, 04:12:06 PM
Well, due to our phone and internet being out for a couple of days this past week, I decided I'd catch up on OoT.  I made it past Jabu-Jabu's belly and into the adult part of the game, and also finished the Forest Temple.

Currently, I'm working my way through the Fire Temple--and I've forgotten how annoying those Flare Dancers can be if you don't kill them quickly. :lol:
See, now you're catching up with us. :lol: And yeah, the Flare Dancers are pretty annoying if you don't kill them fast enough. At one point, I even ran out of bombs and had to teleport back to Death Mountain Crater to stock up. Still an easy match despite that.

You had trouble with Bongo Bongo? I defeated him relatively easy. All you do is shoot the hands and then shoot the "Red Eye" when it comes at you. I don't think I ever had trouble with him. And when you hit him, he will give out Arrows and Magic Jars, so its not like you have to worry about running low on that. Either way, I finished the Shadow Temple this morning and glad to get it out of the way.

I am off to the Gerudo Fortress now to save those fat ugly carpenters. I hate fighting those stupid Gerudo women with the swords... :roll:
Well, the second time around I beat him in literally two minutes. I just stunned the hands, turned on Lens of Truth, went straight to the Red Eye, and slashed the hell out of it with the Biggoron sword. That sword really pays off if you want to kill a boss quickly. I've read on other message boards that others have had a hard time with that boss as well. Even the walkthrough says "this is a pretty hard boss unless you know what you're doing." Overall, Shadow Temple was a pretty easy to get through. Besides the very beginning and the room with the spikes, I didn't have to use many walkthroughs at all. The complaints I have are the room with the Wallmasters, and how they grow back to normal length if you're too slow to kill it. And how far you have to go just to get to the Boss door. Otherwise, cool temple, albeit creepy.

And I'm also at the Gerudo portion of the game too. I haven't actually entered the fortress yet, I just went to get skulltulas and heart pieces. But I'll definitely free those carpenters next.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 22, 2012, 01:29:04 AM
The Shadow Temple is so linear that its not possible to get loss like you can in the Forest and Water Temple. Every puzzle is straightforward pretty much and its like you have to use the Lens of Truth is every room. They really overdid it with all the hidden secrets and horror theme in that temple. Bongo Bongo would've been more challenging if the fight didn't give you arrows and magic bottles every five seconds. But I do like the beat he makes when playing the drum. :mrred:

I have rescued 3/4 of the Carpenters in Gerudo Fortress. I am having trouble finding that last one now. I hate fighting those Gerudo women with swords. When they do that charge attack, they can knock you out and send you back to the Prison. But other than that, I can't wait until I rescue that last carpenter.  :mrorange:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 22, 2012, 01:32:21 AM
I wonder if Nintendo was watching "The Mystical Spellbook of the Imperial Wizard" and got inspired by Wing Ding and Ring Ling when naming the carpenters? So far we have an Ichiro, Shiro, and Jiro. I don't even want to imagine the name of the last one.  :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 22, 2012, 01:39:42 AM
I wonder if Nintendo was watching "The Mystical Spellbook of the Imperial Wizard" and got inspired by Wing Ding and Ring Ling when naming the carpenters? So far we have an Ichiro, Shiro, and Jiro. I don't even want to imagine the name of the last one.  :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
It was translated from Japanese. That might have been the actual names.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 22, 2012, 01:45:01 AM
I've already rescued all the carpenters. And boy does it feel so good to have the Gerudo Membership card. After that, the guards will just leave you alone and not capture you every three seconds. I've also done the Gerudo Training Grounds. And since I already had the maximum keys thanks to the cheats (see earlier rants), I ran over and got the Ice Arrows. Even though they're utterly useless in this game. I still went for the keys anyways, though I did skip over some rooms. As for me, I've at least entered the Spirit Temple as a kid. I'll start that tomorrow. And man, was it a chore to pass through the desert/sand storm or what? :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 22, 2012, 01:11:05 PM
I might do the Gerudo Training Grounds later on because I know you need the Silver Gauntlets anyways to get a key inside there. Not that I care about the Ice Arrows or anything. Mostly just for completion. :P

Anyways, I made it across the two trials in the Desert Wasteland. The first one where you follow the flags isn't too bad. I think I got lost once or twice before reaching the Poe Guide. The second part is annoying though when following that Poe Guide. Its not that its hard to follow the Guide but those Leevers are such a pain in the ass to get around. But I found my way to the Desert Colossus and got the Requiem of Spirit. Before taking on the Spirit Temple though, I need to collect more Heart Pieces. I am only at 14 for the moment and I know I am missing a lot of the Magic patch ones.  :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 22, 2012, 03:29:59 PM
Yeah, I just got the ice arrows for the sake of completion. You don't even use them in the game, but I suppose they're good to have.

And yeah, that desert was SUCH a pain. I got lost so many times it's not even funny. :roll: It gets better when the Poe guides you to the Colossus, but those Leevers are so annoying. Even though Spirit Temple is my favorite temple of them all, the "warp" point is my least favorite. I'm at 16 hearts now, and I'm already halfway done in completing another heart container. There's one in the Colossus you can get if you plant a magic bean, which I did plant. And I have almost 50 skulltulas defeated, and that amount right there is enough to get you a heart piece. I want to get at least 18 hearts before I fight the final boss.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Bandit King on July 22, 2012, 07:33:59 PM
Well, I made it past the Fire Temple. Volvagia was a lot tougher to beat than I remember...I died twice before beating the thing, and even then it took me two fairies.

Water Temple, here I come!
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 22, 2012, 08:25:20 PM
Yeah, Volvagia can be a real pain if you're not careful. And he takes A LOT of points off your health if you get in the way of his fire breath. Plus, the rocks being dropped from the air doesn't help either. The only death I've suffered from so far was the Bongo Bongo boss in the Shadow Temple. But the second time around I beat it easily.

Good luck with Water Temple, aka the most tedious temple to navigate through ever.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 23, 2012, 02:17:53 AM
I can't believe it, I just died to an Iron Knuckle.
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*hangs head in shame*


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Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 23, 2012, 02:20:57 AM
Really, I can't believe I had so much trouble defeating an Iron Knuckle as Young Link. I have died in the past, but this time I had two close deaths due to them. It was my fault the first time around because I forgot how much health it takes from you when they swing at you at first. Luckily I had Nayru's Love though, because that was the only way to defeat it. I guess after mocking Nayru's Love this whole time, it came in very handy.

Now I have the Silver Gauntlets and can go forward in time as an adult. I love that scene between the Twinrova Sisters and Nabooru outside the Spirit Temple. It makes me want to fight those old whores really bad... :x
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 23, 2012, 02:40:34 AM
Alright, two things:

First of all, what is with the URL smiley? Was that intentional or was it just a typo on your part? If not, I could modify the post unless you had a reason for it. ;)

And second of all, yeah those Iron Knuckles take A LOT of points off your health. Methinks they put that "mini boss" in there three times to foreshadow what the final boss is gonna be like. The only reason I beat it was because of Nayru's Love. I didn't remember what the feature was for until I got it from the fairy. It helps a lot, I'm not even kidding. That's the only way I didn't die, I guess it gave you a pretty hard time though. :(

As for me, I'm already done with Spirit Temple. And GOOD LORD was that boss hard. I almost died trying to beat it. I had used up all three of my fairy jars and was done to like, 6 hearts remaining before finally beating it. My main problem was the second part, where everytime I tried to rub the "reflections" in Twinrova's face, I'd jump to the bottom and miss. Such a tedious boss, but I LOVE the dialogue at the end. Makes the whole boss worth while and makes up for all the trouble you had to go through. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 23, 2012, 05:41:17 AM
I could beat Iron Knuckles without Nayru's Love. It's the simple dodge and hit strategy. If there is enough time, jump attack. Twice as much damage.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 23, 2012, 10:15:21 AM
I've got the Gale Boomerang! :D
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 23, 2012, 01:28:55 PM
Alright, two things:

First of all, what is with the URL smiley? Was that intentional or was it just a typo on your part? If not, I could modify the post unless you had a reason for it. ;)

And second of all, yeah those Iron Knuckles take A LOT of points off your health. Methinks they put that "mini boss" in there three times to foreshadow what the final boss is gonna be like. The only reason I beat it was because of Nayru's Love. I didn't remember what the feature was for until I got it from the fairy. It helps a lot, I'm not even kidding. That's the only way I didn't die, I guess it gave you a pretty hard time though. :(

As for me, I'm already done with Spirit Temple. And GOOD LORD was that boss hard. I almost died trying to beat it. I had used up all three of my fairy jars and was done to like, 6 hearts remaining before finally beating it. My main problem was the second part, where everytime I tried to rub the "reflections" in Twinrova's face, I'd jump to the bottom and miss. Such a tedious boss, but I LOVE the dialogue at the end. Makes the whole boss worth while and makes up for all the trouble you had to go through. :lol:

Twinrova is indeed tricky and difficult to face. But I still enjoy the boss fight and it is one of the best in the series. The dialogue at the end is the best part of the fight. Its nice to have a comical ending after facing a temple with a more serious tone. As for me, I haven't reached Twinrova yet. I have the Mirror Shield and Boss Key, but I still have to burn that statues face off with the large mirror. Other than that, I am looking forward to the fight with Twinrova. But it doesn't help that you have to face Nabooru/Twinrova back to back. :o

I've got the Gale Boomerang! :D

Have you fought that Orangutan or whatever it was yet in the Forest Temple? That was a funny battle. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 23, 2012, 04:03:15 PM
Wait, what's Gale Boomerang? I know there's a regular boomerang you get as a kid, but I don't remember any Gale Boomerang.

As for me, before I get started on the final portion of the game, I'm want to get the last heart pieces and maybe a few more skulltulas. The latter I'm on the fence about. Because even if you get all 100 skulltulas, all you get is 200 rupees, which is not rewarding at all. I've already got the heart piece to beat 50+ skulltulas, and I've got the biggest extension on the wallet. Other than that, I'm not sure if I'm gonna bother defeating the rest. But I might, just for the sake of completion. As for the heart pieces, I still have 8 more to get. And they're the most pain in the butt to get. Like the Bowling Alley one, and the Dampe's race one. I'm just debating on which to do first. I'll probably get the final boss out of the way first, then go back and get all the heart pieces and skulltulas I missed. And then, it's off to download Majora's Mask.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 24, 2012, 12:03:02 AM
Wait, what's Gale Boomerang? I know there's a regular boomerang you get as a kid, but I don't remember any Gale Boomerang.

As for me, before I get started on the final portion of the game, I'm want to get the last heart pieces and maybe a few more skulltulas. The latter I'm on the fence about. Because even if you get all 100 skulltulas, all you get is 200 rupees, which is not rewarding at all. I've already got the heart piece to beat 50+ skulltulas, and I've got the biggest extension on the wallet. Other than that, I'm not sure if I'm gonna bother defeating the rest. But I might, just for the sake of completion. As for the heart pieces, I still have 8 more to get. And they're the most pain in the butt to get. Like the Bowling Alley one, and the Dampe's race one. I'm just debating on which to do first. I'll probably get the final boss out of the way first, then go back and get all the heart pieces and skulltulas I missed. And then, it's off to download Majora's Mask.
I am not going to even bother collecting more than 50 Skulltulas if that what it takes to get that one heart piece. I beat the Twinrova sisters right now and now I have all the Medallions and 16 full hearts. I can enter Ganon's Tower now, but I want to get all 20 heart pieces before I enter. I know the ones I am missing include:

- Horse Archery in Gerudo Fortress
- Dampe's Race
- Death Mounain Crater Patch
- Frog Catching game at Zora River
- Skull Kid one in the Dark Forest
- Sun Song in the Kakariko Graveyard
- Treasure Chest on top of Gerudo Fortress
- Golden Scale one in Lake Hylia
- Hylian Loach as a kid :(

I have a lot of work to do...
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 24, 2012, 12:57:55 AM
Well, I've finally beat the game! And it only took me 2 weeks to beat it too. :o Last time I replayed this, it took me a good 4 weeks to beat it. That boss was actually not that bad this time around. The first half was annoying, what with playing tennis with the energy balls. The second half wasn't half bad either. Sure, it's annoying having to roll under Ganon every 3 seconds, but it's actually pretty easy. And to think, I had the most trouble with that part of the boss last time I replayed this. :lol: I did die once, and had to use one more fairy jar when on my second "round." After that, the credits rolled and the game was finished. Yay! :D And my final death toll was 2. No lie, it was definitely an immense improvement over my last death toll of 47. XD

Tomorrow, I'll probably collect the remaining 8 heart pieces I need, and I'll defeat some more skulltulas. I know it seems pointless, but I'll do it anyways for the sake of completion. If I change my mind though, I'll use cheats to get the maximum of everything. Then I'll download Majora's Mask, and start that game by Wednesday. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 24, 2012, 02:52:05 AM
And to anyone who cares, here's the heart pieces I need:

- The bowling alley one as a kid.
- The memorization game with the frogs. (I already got the one where all you have to do is play Song of Storms).
- The "throw a bomb into the huge pot" one in Goron City.
- The Golden scale one. (Which I still don't have. Meh, maybe I'll use cheats to get the Golden Scale. We'll see).
- The Dampe's Race one in under a minute. (Groan). :roll:
- The Dampe's digging for a heart piece one. (Another groan). -_-
- The "jam session" with the two skull kids in the Lost Woods. (I already got the play Saria's Song to the Skull Kid one).
- The 10 pound fish one as a kid. (Even though I have virtually no luck with fishing. It's still worth a try anyways).

Most of them (with some exceptions), are gonna be a chore to collect. But, it's a good way to kill time once you've finished with the game and still want to collect more stuff. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 24, 2012, 09:45:15 AM
Well, I got Epona back. Unfortunately, the Twilit are in Kakariko Village.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 24, 2012, 01:11:31 PM
Well, I've finally beat the game! And it only took me 2 weeks to beat it too. :o Last time I replayed this, it took me a good 4 weeks to beat it. That boss was actually not that bad this time around. The first half was annoying, what with playing tennis with the energy balls. The second half wasn't half bad either. Sure, it's annoying having to roll under Ganon every 3 seconds, but it's actually pretty easy. And to think, I had the most trouble with that part of the boss last time I replayed this. :lol: I did die once, and had to use one more fairy jar when on my second "round." After that, the credits rolled and the game was finished. Yay! :D And my final death toll was 2. No lie, it was definitely an immense improvement over my last death toll of 47. XD

Tomorrow, I'll probably collect the remaining 8 heart pieces I need, and I'll defeat some more skulltulas. I know it seems pointless, but I'll do it anyways for the sake of completion. If I change my mind though, I'll use cheats to get the maximum of everything. Then I'll download Majora's Mask, and start that game by Wednesday. :P

Congrats! The Ganon battle is not too hard since there is a ton of ways to stun him. I don't think I have died too much in that battle compared to Ganondorf in his tower. And wow, only two deaths? I only have one death at the moment, I think I will beat you.

As for me, I have been playing a lot to get more Heart Pieces. I got 18 now and all I need is six more to go. I was soooooo close to getting the one in the Dampe race game, but I missed out on it by like two seconds. :roll: There is also one in Gerudo Valley hidden in a box that I still need to get. At least I should have 19 before going to work later...
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 24, 2012, 04:16:44 PM
Haha thanks.

And apparently there's one heart you can get at Gerudo's Fortress as a kid. You can some how sneak in there by using a nearby cucco, and you won't get penalized. Knowing me, I'll just levitate over the blocked "entry way." Also, this pertains to skulltulas, but if you go to one of the trees in Hyrule Castle, you can do some sort of glitch to get unlimited skulltulas. (It's the tree right by where you sneak in to the courtyard). Of course, I can't confirm this, and you don't have to to try this or anything. But, still an interesting tidbit I'd like to point out anyways.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 25, 2012, 03:11:55 PM
So I finally beat Ganon's Tower today. I have to say that the Forest Trial room was a bitch with all those fans and collecting all of those Silver Rupees. I didn't like the Shadow Trial Room either because it is easy to screw up and have to start over in that big room again. But overall, I awakened all six sages and just need to fight Ganon/Ganondorf next.

I think I am going to start on Majora's Mask next also. I have that game downloaded to the Wii from the Virtual Console. Although it might take me longer to finish that game because I am not as familiar with it as I was with Ocarina of Time.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 25, 2012, 03:14:59 PM
Well, I collected 6/8 heart pieces I needed. The only ones I couldn't get was the bowling alley one, and the Dampe's race one. For the former, I couldn't get that side target to save my life. And for the latter, I seriously couldn't get any better than 1:04 for final race time. Way too hard, so I gave up on both accounts. And it's true what they say about the heart piece in Gerudo's Fortress. There is one at the tippity top where you'd get "captured." If you climb high enough, you'll see it. However, I used this method to get past the "closed off" gate by levitating. If you have an actual console, I don't think that would work.

And the skulltula glitch actually worked for me! You go by the tree in Hyrule Castle (just before you sneak in to the courtyard), play Song of Storms to make the hole appear, and then go in there and try the glitch. There's a video that shows you exactly how to do it. And that video can explain it better than I can. I tried it a few times, and worked like a charm. But then I blew it by making a mistake and then stopped working. So now, I've maxed everything out and am officially done with the game. I downloaded Majora's Mask last night and will start that sometime tonight.

EDIT: And once again, TRJ posts at the same time as me. Either I'm posting slower and slower by the day, or you're reading my mind for which threads I go to. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 26, 2012, 12:29:14 AM
I have heard of the Skulltula glitch before and I am pretty sure it works in all versions of the game. But I already got the 50 I need for the heart piece, so no need in bothering to get anymore. I also got the heart piece at the top of Gerudo Fortress, its easy to get there as an adult by climbing the ivy near the Training Grounds. Its in a treasure chest that you can hookshot too.

And I finished beating both Ganon and Ganondorf. I had some trouble with Ganondorf as I ran out of magic for my Light Arrows. But luckily there were jars at the bottom of the fight that contains Magic Jars. I love the escape from Ganon's Tower with Zelda also, but Zelda's screaming irritates me. And I hate that ReDead at the end of the bridge. Haven't we had enough of them? :roll:

The boss battle against Ganon was fun. Once again I ran out of magic. But at least you can get some more during the fight. You can stun Ganon in many different ways. He went down rather easily for me. I love the ending credits though, its just so sad to see Link go back in time and lose Navi, even if she was annoying. But the music is great though and I love the ending where everyone is in Lon Lon Ranch. :mrred:

Next up is Majora's Mask. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 26, 2012, 01:13:27 AM
So, you've beat it too now? Great congrats! And I don't recall running out of magic at all from either portion of the boss. I did sort of run low on arrows, but if you lure Ganon towards the buildings/ruins, he'll knock them down for you. I stocked up on arrows and also fairy jars. Out of the four I bottled up (very quickly might I add), I only used up one. This was after I died the first time around. And total word on the freaking Redead appearing AGAIN, even after you attempt to escape from the castle. Was it really necessary to throw one in again? :roll: And yeah, I absolutely love the credits at the end, when everyone is at Lon Lon Ranch celebrating. I especially like the sages watching the whole celebration from the top of Death Mountain. I'm assuming they're just spirits, and not physically them as themselves. If that's the case, then that strengthens the "sages died in their respective temples" theory even more. And yeah, it's really sad how Link goes back to being a kid for good, and parts ways with Navi. And the music throughout the credits is just great.

As for me, I've already started Majora's Mask. :P And the first parts are sort of tedious. Life gets so much easier once you get your ocarina back though. And I like the flashback where Zelda and Link talk and is taught the "Song of Time." Which is the most important song in the whole game. I can't wait to get to the temples though. I have to remember to play the inverted "Song of Time" to slow time down so I don't lose and have to start over. Basically, I haven't really made much progress. But I have already acquired 6 masks (one being the Deku one), so I guess that counts as something. Also, it's just oh so obvious it is Navi Link is looking for on his "journey." I mean, who else would he be looking for that was so noteworthy and special? Navi is the only one that makes sense honestly.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 26, 2012, 12:13:38 PM
Majora's Mask progress so far. I've got the Sonata of Awakening. And the Deku King is just so rash!

I just remembered that Krappy Drabby (okay, the owl) is in this game. Goddamn it!
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 26, 2012, 01:36:38 PM
So, you've beat it too now? Great congrats! And I don't recall running out of magic at all from either portion of the boss. I did sort of run low on arrows, but if you lure Ganon towards the buildings/ruins, he'll knock them down for you. I stocked up on arrows and also fairy jars. Out of the four I bottled up (very quickly might I add), I only used up one. This was after I died the first time around. And total word on the freaking Redead appearing AGAIN, even after you attempt to escape from the castle. Was it really necessary to throw one in again? :roll: And yeah, I absolutely love the credits at the end, when everyone is at Lon Lon Ranch celebrating. I especially like the sages watching the whole celebration from the top of Death Mountain. I'm assuming they're just spirits, and not physically them as themselves. If that's the case, then that strengthens the "sages died in their respective temples" theory even more. And yeah, it's really sad how Link goes back to being a kid for good, and parts ways with Navi. And the music throughout the credits is just great.

As for me, I've already started Majora's Mask. :P And the first parts are sort of tedious. Life gets so much easier once you get your ocarina back though. And I like the flashback where Zelda and Link talk and is taught the "Song of Time." Which is the most important song in the whole game. I can't wait to get to the temples though. I have to remember to play the inverted "Song of Time" to slow time down so I don't lose and have to start over. Basically, I haven't really made much progress. But I have already acquired 6 masks (one being the Deku one), so I guess that counts as something. Also, it's just oh so obvious it is Navi Link is looking for on his "journey." I mean, who else would he be looking for that was so noteworthy and special? Navi is the only one that makes sense honestly.

I am definitely not a fan of the early in-game portion of Majora's Mask. Its just so sluggish and you have to complete so many quests before being able to fight Skull Kid on top of the Clock Tower. I have already started Majora's Mask now and I just met the creepy Happy Masks Salesman. That guy is so unusual, but I like his theme though. :o

Now I have to run all over Clock Town in order to get all the things I need in order to get that Land Title deed from that Business Scrub. I have no idea where to go first, but I will figure it out. I mean I only have 3 days (or 72 minutes) after all... :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 26, 2012, 04:13:42 PM
Oh yeah, the owl is in this game too. I don't think you see too much of him though, outside learning the "teleport" song from him. I personally never liked the ocarina tune you learned from him. Sound so off key and too loud to me. Oh well, definitely serves as a good teleporting device instead of running around and wasting time.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 27, 2012, 11:17:32 AM
I agree with PPF that life is so much easier once you get your Ocarina back and learn the Song of Time. Now you don't have to worry about the timer as much now that you have the Song of Time. Anyays, I just learned the Song of Healing from the Happy Masks Salesman. Like I said before, that guy is a nutjob. Before I head to the Woodfall Temple and Swamp, I want to do some exploring and try to get some heart pieces because three hearts will do me no good in Woodfall at all.  :cry:

I am not looking forward though getting through the Swamp. That part of the game is kind of tricky so early on. I guess I need to rescue that Witch in the forest.

And yes, that annoying owl is in this game too. Luckily, you only meet on Snowhead Mountain in order to get the Lens of Truth. And he touches you the Song of Soaring, which is very useful in MM. So I guess he has somekind of use, unlike in OoT.  :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 27, 2012, 03:34:28 PM
I'm already done with Woodfall. And while the side quest with the Deku Princess and the monkey is sort of tiring, the whole area is pretty easy to navigate. One section I particularly hate though is the one where you enter the temple in the first place. With all the bugs and Dekus attacking you constantly. I can't tell you how many times I got knocked down trying to kill those bugs. :roll: The temple itself was a breeze, I didn't even need many walkthroughs at all. With the exception of some missing fairies I needed and how to kill that pesky turtle and frog mini boss, I got through every room with no problem. It's very straight forward and self explanatory. And I finished with plenty of time to spare, it was morning of the final day when I finished the temple.

After that, I went to that tourists section, and played that archery game with one of the witches. If you get 20 targets, you get a heart piece. I sucked though, I couldn't even get past 4. :lol: I currently have 6 hearts at the moment, and I hope to get some more too. Maybe some of the post-temple sidequests will reward you heart pieces. And yeah, the owl is a little less annoying in this game. You do meet him in Snowhead, and also at Woodfall to learn the teleporting song. At least he doesn't just sit there and state the obvious like in OOT.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 28, 2012, 12:39:05 AM
Woodfall Temple is indeed easy. I never had trouble with that temple at all. Odolwa is pretty hard for the first boss in the game. Those moths or whatever he summons are a bitch to avoid. I have made it all the way to the Deku Palace now and waiting to try and meet with the Deku King. Poor monkey, this Deku King is almost as bad and incompetent as King Zora. At least there is no butt sliding scene that takes a minute though/  :roll:

And one thing I love about MM is the ability to switch between different forms of Link. I like Deku Link, but I can't wait until I turn into Zora Link. I wasn't really a fan of Goron Link, but I do like the drums though. :mrred:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 28, 2012, 12:52:42 AM
Really? I found the boss very easy. He may look big, but he really doesn't do any major damage. Just a quarter point off your health, but that's it. You're right about the moths though, those are really annoying. And yeah, the Deku King sucks, he's worse than King Zora. I'm glad there's no butt sliding too, like you said. :roll:

And yeah, I like the transforming masks too. My favorite is the Zora one, the Deku one is okay, and I'm not a fan of the Goron one. And I can never hear the drums very well either. Which is especially a problem when you're trying to play an ocarina tune.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 28, 2012, 11:49:19 AM
Twilight Princess progress:

I've finished Lakebed Temple, and now Midna's dying.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 28, 2012, 12:12:36 PM
Really? I found the boss very easy. He may look big, but he really doesn't do any major damage. Just a quarter point off your health, but that's it. You're right about the moths though, those are really annoying. And yeah, the Deku King sucks, he's worse than King Zora. I'm glad there's no butt sliding too, like you said. :roll:

And yeah, I like the transforming masks too. My favorite is the Zora one, the Deku one is okay, and I'm not a fan of the Goron one. And I can never hear the drums very well either. Which is especially a problem when you're trying to play an ocarina tune.

Well, I don't think he was tough per se... rather his attacks were pretty strong early on in-game. But yeah, I am in the process of fighting him right now, and he is not hard at all. The Woodfall Temple as a whole wasn't hard either. But I have to say, I totally forgot about the music in the temple and its so creepy and I kind of like it. I also captured the Deku Princess in the bottle and now I am about to save a frying monkey. Then after that, I am going to explore the Swamp since its no longer poisoned.

I think I should also complete the Deku Shrine also to get the Mask of Scents. The only bad part is that Deku Butler race is similar to the race in Dampe's grave. Oh well, at least its not as annoying though. :roll:

And I am finally glad to have the Fairy Bow next. Once I am finished with the Swamp, I am going back in time and heading to Snowhead Mountain.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 28, 2012, 12:15:13 PM
Twilight Princess progress:

I've finished Lakebed Temple, and now Midna's dying.

I didn't like the Lakebed Temple at all. It was confusing and a headache to complete. The boss fight is pretty epic and cool though, but its a bit obvious that its kind of a ripoff of Morpha in OoT. The name of the boss is even Morpheel. :P

And the Midna dying scene is one of the saddest parts of the game. I have to admit though I like the musical piece that comes along with it though. This is the part of the game when it really starts getting good.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Bandit King on July 28, 2012, 02:09:16 PM
Sheesh...I remembered the Water Temple as being a pain to get through, but I don't remember it being THIS bad! :x :x
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 28, 2012, 03:34:29 PM
Well, I don't think he was tough per se... rather his attacks were pretty strong early on in-game. But yeah, I am in the process of fighting him right now, and he is not hard at all. The Woodfall Temple as a whole wasn't hard either. But I have to say, I totally forgot about the music in the temple and its so creepy and I kind of like it. I also captured the Deku Princess in the bottle and now I am about to save a frying monkey. Then after that, I am going to explore the Swamp since its no longer poisoned.

I think I should also complete the Deku Shrine also to get the Mask of Scents. The only bad part is that Deku Butler race is similar to the race in Dampe's grave. Oh well, at least its not as annoying though. :roll:

And I am finally glad to have the Fairy Bow next. Once I am finished with the Swamp, I am going back in time and heading to Snowhead Mountain.
I really didn't think his attacks were strong at all. He only takes a quarter point off your health, but it's not too bad. As for the swamp area, you can go to that one house and kill 30 skulltulas. Most of them are pretty easy to find, and you get the Mask of Truth after you're done defeating them all. And the mask really comes in handy for some of the side quests, like the dog racing one. And the Deku Shrine isn't that hard at all. If you put on your bunny ears, you'll be able to keep up with the butler no problem. The first time I messed up because I was in Deku form, and ran into fire, prompting a start over. The second time was a piece of cake, since I had the bunny ears on.

For my progress, all I did was try to collect heart pieces yesterday. Some were pretty easy, but others were just impossible. How can anyone win the "Deku flying around" game three days in a row? I couldn't even collect one rupee. :roll: And the winning the "Honey and Darling" game is pretty hard too. Though some of their challenges aren't that bad. I have 7 hearts at the moment, and I'll take on Snowhead next.

Sheesh...I remembered the Water Temple as being a pain to get through, but I don't remember it being THIS bad! :x :x
Yeah, Water Temple is a chore to get through. But it gets a little easier towards the end just before you fight the boss. Morpha is a cake walk, all you have to do is lure it with your hookshot and slash it.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 29, 2012, 12:57:40 AM

Sheesh...I remembered the Water Temple as being a pain to get through, but I don't remember it being THIS bad! :x :x
Yeah, Water Temple is a chore to get through. But it gets a little easier towards the end just before you fight the boss. Morpha is a cake walk, all you have to do is lure it with your hookshot and slash it.

The Water Temple is a pain to go through. Its annoying when it comes to constantly changing the water level and Iron Boots on Link in order to go to different places. But once you have the Compass and Dungeon Map, it makes life much easier to get through that dungeon. The one thing that throws people off about that dungeon is that there is one Small Key to find. Once you find it, the temple is not so bad. Except the fight with Dark Link... :roll:

I have made a lot of progress in MM. I got quite a few masks including Masks of Scents, Bunny Hood, Blast Mask, and now I am heading to Snowhead. But I am collecting more heartpieces before I go there. Man, MM has a LOT of heart pieces to collect. A lot of them are so damn hard to collect also. I got a few already in Termina Field and Clock Town. And PPF, that Honey and Darling game is so hard to beat. Don't you have to beat it three different times to get the Heart Piece?

And wait until you try the Octorok Shooting game. Very fustrating...  :x
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 29, 2012, 01:51:49 AM
I've already done the Snowhead "errands." Which included getting the Lens of Truth, learning the Goron Lullaby to SHUT THAT GORON KID UP, and getting a few more heart pieces. I've even completed yet another heart container too, now standing at 8 hearts. I'll take on Snowhead Temple starting tomorrow.

And yeah, some (if not most) of the heart pieces in MM are SUCH a chore to collect. I've gotten the random Termina Field and some Clock Town ones no problem. But the "get a perfect score three days in a row" games are just annoying. And yes, that includes the "Honey and Darling" game. In my opinion, the "Deku Rupees" ones are even worse. Seriously, how is it remotely possible to even get one rupee, let alone a heart piece for getting a perfect score all three days? The Octorok Shooting game is pretty frustrating too, though it gets better once you get used to it. When I last replayed, I got a score of 49, just ONE SHORT of perfect score. Hopefully this time I'll be a little more lucky. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 29, 2012, 02:01:47 AM
THANK YOU! I am glad that I am not the only one that found that Goron Baby annoying. What is with Nintendo and making Goron babies annoying in the Zelda games? I mean OoT had Darunia's son that would keep crying until you reassure him that you will find his dad. But this Goron Baby in Snowhead is the worst. And WTF is with the father of the Goron Baby? Does Nintendo really expect me to believe that ancient crippled old huncback and creepy Goron is the baby's dad? He looks old enough to be that baby's Great Great Grandfather.  :roll: :roll: :roll:

And yes, MM has a lot of hard heart pieces. They make the hard ones in OoT look like there is nothing to them. I hate a lot of the Clock Town ones like the Honey and Darling and Octorok Shooting Gallery. Also, the Deku Playground is so F'ing hard also. And then there is that beaver race in Great Bay. And all of those heart pieces on the moon are a bitch to get also. If you can get 20 hearts in this game, you are a true warrior. :o
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 29, 2012, 02:26:03 AM
Well, at least Darunia's son didn't make constant wailing noises while crying. Plus, he did take a break from the crying and calmed down a little at some points. But this Goron baby.... did. not. shut. up. Until of course, you played the lullaby. Also, I swear that baby looks like a girl, yet it was implied it was a boy. And don't even get me started on the baby's father. I completely agree with your sentiment that he looks like the kid's Great Great Grandfather. By far the creepiest looking Goron I have ever seen. :shock:

And yes, it takes a lot of skill to get all 20 heart pieces. I don't know how anyone could do that. Knowing me, I'll probably use cheats to maximize on heart pieces just before I fight the final boss. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 29, 2012, 03:47:54 AM
There are 52 heart pieces in MM, an increase from the 36 in OoT. If they actually thought expanding on exploring was a good idea, it isn't.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 29, 2012, 01:24:11 PM
The reason that there are so many heart pieces in MM compared to OoT because you get less Heart Containers in MM than in OoT. There are only four boss fights after all where you can get a Heart Container. And yeah, the increased amount of Heart Pieces make the player explore a little bit more. But really, most of the Heart Pieces are found around Clock Town and Termina Field. And a lot of them require an extensive task to be completed in order for to get them all. So it is so much harder to get them in OoT than in MM.

So I finally got the Lens of Truth from Mr. Talk too much. From his dialogue, he seems to be one of the few characters in Termina that knows that Link has the capability to travel back in time. I can't wait to get Snowhead Temple done also. I am not a fan of that temple at all and I hate the Goron Link too. And the boss fight against Goht i so frustrating.  :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 29, 2012, 03:52:01 PM
Yeah, Snowhead temple is so unremarkable. And Link looks just plain awkward as Goron Link. The boss for Snowhead is really easy actually. You just have to bump into Goht constantly and watch your magic meter. But it does get old having to fight him over and over again when you have to do a challenge in the spring time only. And you have to keep going back in time to re fight the boss.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 29, 2012, 11:59:15 PM
Okay, you are telling me that Snowhead Temple was blocked by a giant Goron blowing wind? ow lame. Anyways, I am inside Snowhead Temple now. This temple is like the Ice Cavern but much more annoying with too many Goron Link puzzles. I hate Goron Link, especially in the areas you have to roll with him in order to jump over gaps. On top of that, how am I suppose to capture all of those Great Fairies with a time limit. Oh well, I don't want to see their over-sexed bodies anyways. :roll:

I can't wait until I get out of the Snowhead region... :?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 30, 2012, 01:03:09 AM
Well, if you collect the fairies, you get an upgrade on your magic meter. Some of them are pretty easy to find, like the ones in the chest. But some of them are a pain to get. Especially that one room with all the switches you have to pound on. I hope you know what I'm talking about there. And getting the fairy in THAT room is a joke. Though I just levitated to get it, since I was so fed up with that room by then.

And yes, I'm already done with the temple, and the boss Goht. He's pretty easy, I didn't get more than 2 hearts dub ducted from my health. The mountains look good in the springtime. And there are some interesting side quests that come with it too. Like the Goron race one, and the upgraded sword one. Though the latter I'm gonna have to do tomorrow. Because you have to talk to the owners on the first day in order to get everything upgraded. So that means I'll have to re fight the boss again. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 30, 2012, 11:49:44 AM
Yeah the battle against Goht is extremely easy for me as well. I mean the boss is practically running from you! The only thing you need to worry about more is running out of magic, but there is enough there to pretty much last for the whole battle. In the end, I defeated him with no problems an got Goht's remains. Before I head to Great Bay though, I need to collect more masks and go to Romani Ranch and get my Epona back. I know that I can get the Bremen Mask at Romani Ranch, so I shall do that.

And, has anyone ever taken on the alient invasion at Romani Ranch? You know, the ones that come during the night and try to steal the Romani cows? That was one creepy battle and those aliens look creepy.  :o
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 30, 2012, 03:44:47 PM
I haven't done the alien invasion thing yet. But yeah, that was creepy. I mean, abducting a cow, seriously? I'll definitely do that after I get my upgraded sword and all the other post-winter stuff at the Snowhead/Goron Village. And I've already gotten the Breman Mask, where you march with those chick turned cuccos. After that, you can get the bunny hood mask. I acquired those two masks just before I went to Snowhead. The bunny hood is my personal favorite. It especially comes in handy when you race with someone.

Also, I've been meaning to share this, but a few days ago I was reading through some Zelda theories. And I came across this thread. (http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/nes-snes-n64-zelda/56436-the-unsolved-mysteries-of-ocarina-of-time.html) The thread itself is pretty outdated, but all the different theories are really interesting. I'll try to find one on Majora's Mask. I can imagine how interesting the theories would be on that game.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 31, 2012, 01:55:59 AM

Also, I've been meaning to share this, but a few days ago I was reading through some Zelda theories. And I came across this thread. (http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/nes-snes-n64-zelda/56436-the-unsolved-mysteries-of-ocarina-of-time.html) The thread itself is pretty outdated, but all the different theories are really interesting. I'll try to find one on Majora's Mask. I can imagine how interesting the theories would be on that game.

I like reading those kinds of threads because you can learn something about a game that you didn't already know. And then it also pools other individual's ideas together, so you can come up with some good theories. That thread brings up some interesting stuff that I didn't really know. Like I didn't know that there was a tree in Lake Hylia with claw marks on it. Or maybe I just haven't noticed it one recent playthroughs. They also brought up a good point about Malon's mom. I mean they couldn't mention her fate?

Although some of those theories are just silly. One of them says that Nabooru's gift to Child Link was a sexual favor? Really? That is disgusting and Nintendo would never put such a twisted idea into any of their games. Even an M rated game wouldn't have some disgusting like that. I always thought the favor was some kind of treasure. What is wrong with some people? :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 31, 2012, 02:17:37 AM
Yeah, that Nabooru one was so ridiculous. Talk about over analyzing a relationship between a kid and some sage. It was so hilariously bad, like Nintendo would let something like that slip past the radar. :roll: :lol: And I'm pretty sure the gift/favor were those golden gauttnets (sp?). Though Link doesn't get them until just before he fights the final boss.

Also, here's one on Majora's Mask. (http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/zelda-theorizing/146900-happy-mask-salesmans-masks-are-actually-pretty-sad.html) This theory in particular pertains to the Happy Mask Salesman. Unlike the previous thread, this one is much more recent. This one is a great read, very twisted and rather depressing if you really think about it.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 31, 2012, 04:13:18 PM
Wow, I never thought of the Happy Masks Salesman collecting masks of dead souls.  :shock: I know that Links transformation masks like the Deku, Goron, and Zora were all once living souls placed into masks. But once plays the Song of Healing for them, the souls are healed and are turned into masks.This theory makes sense very much if you think about it. That must mean all the masks that the Happy Masks Salesman is carrying are dead souls sealed into masks. But he is the one that puts these souls to rest with his Song of Healing, so his cause is a good one.  I can't believe I noticed this before and it masks very much sense.

MM has many good theories. One of my favorite is the "Stone Tower of Babel" theory that you can find through Google. It is a very interesting theory and a good read on top of that. The theory deals with that the Stone Tower Temple was built to defy the Three Godesses. Its kind of a long read, but worth it nevertheless.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 01, 2012, 01:59:01 AM
Here's one thing I find interesting. Why is Link supposedly in excruciating pain when putting on the transforming masks? Is it the awkward transformation into the bodies? If yes, that would make sense too. But it's sort of hard to explain. And I haven't read the Stone Tower Temple theory yet. But I'll be sure to google it and read it over, even if it is a lengthy read.

Anyways, I should give a progress report on my gameplay as of now:
- Got the gilded sword, and won the Goron race. I just barely won the latter, so I was glad to get that out of the way.
- Did the alien challenge in Romani Ranch. Which was easier than I expected. And got the Romani mask, so now I can enter that Milk club. And yes, I got Epona back and learned Epona's song as well. Life gets so much better once you get her back.
- Went to Ikana Graveyard to race that giant skeleton for the Captain's Mask. And GOOD LORD is this race a chore to finish. I seriously had to start all over three times just to get it right. It is very frustrating. Though if you play Inverted Song of Time and wear bunny hood, you should do okay. Easily one of the hardest masks to earn ever. :roll:
- Went into the graves, mask in hand. The first night you learn Song of Storms, second night you get a heart piece. And on the third night you have to do a grave digging activity with Dampe. It was so frustrating him doing the wrong way and getting caught by the Wallmasters every 5 seconds, that I just gave up.
- Went to Great Bay today, for the hookshot in the Gerudo/Pirate fortress. Wearing the Stone Mask helps wonders, the Gerudo guards don't suspect a thing.
- I also did that challenge at Pinnacle Rock where you reunite those seahorses. Man, that was a tedious challenge. Last time I replayed this, I gave up because I found it so hard. But it's not so hard as it is time consuming. I finally killed all those huge creatures, and got a heart piece from it. How I even finished that challenge is beyond me.
- Oh yeah, and I collected all the Zora eggs and learned the "New Wave Bossa Nova" song. So I've basically covered every bit of the main portion of Great Bay.

And, that's my progress in a nutshell. :P Next I'll snatch up some more heart pieces (already completed yet another container today). Then, I'll cover the latter portion of Great Bay, where all the Zoras are with that band. I should reach Great Bay temple by the end of the week.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 01, 2012, 11:59:02 AM
Wait, you were able to enter Ikana Canyon before going into Great Bay? I thought you needed the Garo Mask to get to Ikana Canyon? Unless I am wrong though, because I thought the Garo Mask is needed for that creepy guy to pull up that tree that requires you to Hookshot in order to get to the canyon.

But yeah, I have a lot of progress to make in order to catch up to you. I just got the Zora Mask from Mikau and about to enter Zora's Domain. Of course, Lulu is missing her eggs and you have to find them in the Pirate's Hideout. Why couldn't Ruto be more like Lulu? She is easily more likeable than Ruto will ever be. And poor Mikau died while trying to get her eggs back. :cry:

So yeah, I have to go to the Pirate Fortress and get Lulu's eggs first before going into Great Bay Temple. Of course, I need to remember to bring an Empty Bottle with me though because last time I forgot that, I had to backtrack and get a couple of bottles. And there are also a couple of bottles in the depths of Great Bay too.

And also, why is there Like Likes at the bottom of Great Bay? I always thought that was random and they are pretty annoying too. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 01, 2012, 01:01:57 PM
You can go to Ikana graveyard before Great Bay. Besides, you get an extra bottle. It should be the fourth one, giving you enough for the Zora eggs so you don't have to go in and out.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 01, 2012, 04:45:20 PM
Yeah, that's what I did. I got the fourth bottle when I went to the Ikana Graveyard. You just can't go to the Ikana Tower itself unless you have the Garo mask. The graveyard and tower are two completely different places.

And yeah, it was sad to see Mikau die. Though I found it interesting how he still had the energy to play the guitar to explain the situation, despite being near death. I completely agree about Lulu too. Despite the fact that she couldn't talk, she was MUCH more tolerable than Ruto. Plus, unlike Ruto, she actually wore clothes. She didn't look like she was butt naked 24/7.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 02, 2012, 12:58:46 PM
Clothed Lulu definitely looks better than a naked Ruto. And she doesn't come with a father that takes half a minute to move and makes weird butt noises. :roll:

So, I have finally collected all the Zora Eggs from the Pirate Fortress and now I am collecting the ones from the bottom of Great Bay. Those two aren't too bad, its just a matter of trying to avoid being hit by those eels. After that, I can learn the New Wave Boss Nova and go to the Great Bay Temple. Good riddance also, because I can't wait until I get this temple out of the way. :roll:

And after that, I can enter my most favorite part of the game - Ikana Canyon!  :mrred: :mrred: :mrred: :mrred: :mrred:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 02, 2012, 01:33:58 PM
It's almost 21 December for the whole world. The international date line will pass in five minutes. While that happens...

Majora's Mask - The Final Hours (Last End with bells and everything!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfqKRD94wg#ws)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 02, 2012, 03:27:33 PM
Oh yeah, December 21, the day the world "ends." :P

So, I have finally collected all the Zora Eggs from the Pirate Fortress and now I am collecting the ones from the bottom of Great Bay. Those two aren't too bad, its just a matter of trying to avoid being hit by those eels. After that, I can learn the New Wave Boss Nova and go to the Great Bay Temple. Good riddance also, because I can't wait until I get this temple out of the way. :roll:

And after that, I can enter my most favorite part of the game - Ikana Canyon!  :mrred: :mrred: :mrred: :mrred: :mrred:
I'm done with all the "Great Bay" errands, including playing the "New Wave" song to Lulu. I've also completed the skulltula house in Great Bay and got the maximum extension on my wallet. I had to start over though because A. I ran out of time (you can only get the prize on the first day or night) and B. I couldn't find one more skulltula. So then I gave up, went back in time, and then came back and re did it. The second time was a breeze, and I had plenty of time to spare. Though the first time around I got a heart piece at the tippity top room of the house. It's the one where you shoot the colored masks and talk to those skull kids. So tonight I can start Great Bay Temple, a temple I'm not looking forward to. I should stock up on fairy jars too when I get to the boss. :roll:

And I can't wait to explore the rest of Ikana too. There are some very interesting tasks you can do there.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 03, 2012, 02:07:44 AM
So I was off of work today and determined to defeat the Great Bay Temple, so I must say that this temple makes the Water Temple look like "Inside the Great Deku Tree".  :x Really, the whole current changing thing was such a headache. And then you have that giant room with all those switches to mess around with also. And if that is bad enough, the mini-boss for this dungeon is tedious and time-consuming. You know, the one with the giant eyeball? And of course, we have to face Wizzrobe for the millionth time too. And after going through all of that, I am died with Gyorg. Luckily, he is easier to take down with Zora Link's boomerangs.

I am so glad to get all of that done with. Thank God for the Inverted Song of Time, or else I don't see how anyone could beat that temple in a normal cycle. But it is worth completing that dungeon because next up is Ikana Canyon! But first, I must get the Garo Mask from the Gorman Brothers...
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 03, 2012, 02:39:07 AM
Okay, you must have read my mind or something. Because I made that exact same "Deku Tree" comparison with the Water Temple(s). :shock:

But seriously though, this temple is a CHORE to get through. Having to change the water cycles, getting relentlessly attacked by all those annoying skull fishes, and BOTH mini bosses are time consuming and tedious. The former boss takes waaaaay too long to take down. First, you have to remove all those bubbles. If you use fire arrows they're much easier. Then you have to take the damn wart down itself. And it doesn't help that it keeps moving around and you can't aim his eye. Meh, I guess it's worth it for the ice arrows. And the second mini boss is even worse. Seriously, that was way too hard for a mini boss. You have to quickly shoot up at the ceiling. Or the frog will trap you in his dirty bubble and throw you around the room. Maybe it's to foreshadow what the boss is gonna be like? And to think, all that for a boss key too.

And don't even get me started on the boss. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but Gyorg has got to be by far, the worst boss in ANY Zelda game. Really, he is just plain unbeatable, no matter what method you use. I tried hitting him with arrows, used the boomerangs on Link. I would be as far away from him as possible, and he would still try to eat me. Naturally, I also died trying to take him down. Just like last time, Gyrog is responsible for giving me my first death in the whole game. And even worse, I ended up running low on time. It was 8 PM on the final night when I blew it with Gyorg. I basically had no choice but to go back in time. So now I have to do the whole temple all over again. :roll: That means I have to mess with the switches, round up all the fairies, and waste yet ANOTHER day traversing nearly every room. I am so pissed, now I have fallen behind because I can't take down some STUPID fish. Hardest boss ever, you have to have some serious skill to beat that thing no problem. And even other message boards and blogs say they've had trouble with Gyorg. So I'm definitely not alone. As soon as I'm done with the boss, I am never setting foot in this temple again. And I'm especially not going anywhere near the boss again. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 04, 2012, 01:20:18 AM
Well PPF, if you ever have to playthough MM again, you will probably have to face Gyorg again. But yeah, that was a ridiculous boss fight. After going through a tedious dungeon, we get smacked in the face with an even more tedious dungeon.

So I got the Garo Mask and now I am in Ikana Canyon. Man, this place is fucking creepy. I forgot about all those encounters with the Garo Ninjas. But they are fun to battle and I like reading what they had to say. I went to the Ikana Graveyard, but I have not gotten the Captain's Mask yet. Right now, I am trying to save the Gidbo guy from the Gibdos. How did he become like that? But first things first, gotta learn the Song of Storms.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 04, 2012, 01:53:31 AM
I've already beat Gyorg. This time I didn't have nearly as hard of a time with it as I did yesterday. And I skipped the mini bosses, since I already did that yesterday. I'm also at Ikana Canyon, but haven't made too much progress. Good luck with the Captain's Mask. That race against that giant skeleton is very frustrating. It took me at least 4-5 attempts to finally beat it. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 04, 2012, 12:10:37 PM
So, I have finally learned the Song of Storms and saved the Gibdo Man with the Gibdo mask. I am in the process of finishing up the Beneath the Well part of Ikana Canyon. And speaking of the Well, what is with the Gibdos? They are so damn greedy and picky on what you want. I have to run all the way bacl to the Swamp because these f***ers want some Blue Potion. Why would you even need that if you are already dead? Sorry, this part of the game made me extremely mad for some reason. I am running around and getting lost in the Well because these rapist mummies want some random garbage. And you can't kill them either because you need to fulfill their requests in order to move on in the Well.  :roll:

Once I get the Mirror Shield, it looks like I am off to the Great Castle of Ikana.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 04, 2012, 12:45:03 PM
I had ti follow a walkthrough just to find out what stuff to get for the Gibdos, so I feel your pain.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 04, 2012, 04:03:47 PM
Yeah, the Gibdos/Well part is so annoying. They demand all this stuff, and you have to run around back and forth. And it's so much backtracking and so easy to get lost. I haven't even gotten that far yet though.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 05, 2012, 02:50:57 AM
Wait until you get into the Gibdo Well. You want to kill them also. Fuckin greedy mummies and their ridiculous requests...

Anyways, I am almost done with the Ancient Castle of Ikana. For some reason, this area was more annoying than I remembered. I hated that room with the ceiling and switch. And the outside part with Deku Link and jumping to those pillars was tricky. There is also a lot of annoying monsters here like the Floormaster and the ReDeads. But the good things about the ReDeads is that you don't have to worry about them as much as they will dance if you wear the Gibdo Mask. And the way they dance is hilarious too. One of them will start twirling around on one foot and the other one looks like it was rapping.  :lol:

But wow, that boss fight against Igos Du Ikana was a pain. Even though they attack similar to Stalfos, they are more durable and challenging. But it does help if you shoot the blinds at the top of the room with a Fire Arrow to get some light into the room.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 05, 2012, 03:15:49 AM
Man, I am starting to fall behind again. :lol: I haven't made any progress today, mainly because my computer spent literally the entire day having to get scanned. Don't know if I'll make progress tomorrow either, but I have a feeling all this Ikana mumbo jumbo is gonna take a long time to complete.

As for the Ikana Castle goes, I remember the boss, and how hard he was to fight. Also, I'm pretty sure you learn the final ocarina tune where you make creepy looking statues of yourself just to hold a switch down. And I remember the Redeads dancing too. Who would have thought they had the dance moves? XD
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 05, 2012, 04:11:55 AM
Wait until you get into the Gibdo Well. You want to kill them also. Fuckin greedy mummies and their ridiculous requests...

Anyways, I am almost done with the Ancient Castle of Ikana. For some reason, this area was more annoying than I remembered. I hated that room with the ceiling and switch. And the outside part with Deku Link and jumping to those pillars was tricky. There is also a lot of annoying monsters here like the Floormaster and the ReDeads. But the good things about the ReDeads is that you don't have to worry about them as much as they will dance if you wear the Gibdo Mask. And the way they dance is hilarious too. One of them will start twirling around on one foot and the other one looks like it was rapping.  :lol:

But wow, that boss fight against Igos Du Ikana was a pain. Even though they attack similar to Stalfos, they are more durable and challenging. But it does help if you shoot the blinds at the top of the room with a Fire Arrow to get some light into the room.
Actually, they dance even with the Captain's Mask and the Garo Mask.

Also, there's this hilarious scene during the Ikana battle if you wear the Captain's Mask.

And let's not get started on the Ben theory. Please!
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 05, 2012, 01:33:49 PM
Yes PPF, you really need to pick up the pace. ;) j/k I feel bad for you, you still have that stupid Gibdo Well to go through.  :mrred:

I haven't made it that far in all honesty. I feel like I should be half-way done with Stone Tower Temple by now, but there is so much to do with the Ikana Canyon. I just made it to the top of the Stone Tower Temple because you have to traverse an entire cliff in order to get to the top. Its kind of tricky also since you have to play the "Elegy of Emptiness" in order to complete certain block puzzles.  But once you get up there, there is an Owl Statue you can hit.

And what is the Ben Theory? I have never heard of that one.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 06, 2012, 01:09:51 AM
Well, I've FINALLY been able to make progress. I completed that dreaded Well with those stupid Gibdos, and I got a few more masks along the way. I have at least entered the Ancient Castle, but I haven't done much in there yet. Besides watch those Redeads dance. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 06, 2012, 08:01:52 AM
Gaming Mysteries: Ben Drowned in Majora's Mask (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvaKRd4UFmc#ws)

http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/BEN_(Aka_Haunted_Majora%27s_Mask) (http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/BEN_(Aka_Haunted_Majora%27s_Mask))

Sorry for scarring people.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 06, 2012, 02:24:49 PM
PPF, as entertaining as the ReDeads dancing are, I think there is more to the Ancient Castle of Ikana than them dancing.  :lol:

And now that you posted that video, I remember reading about it on creepypasta. I never believed into that BS about Ben's Theory. Most of the MM theories I have read online have been good and sort of believable, but this one is utter garbage. And a lot of things on creepypasta now are pretty bad also.

As for my MM progress, I have not started Stone Tower Temple yet. I want to wait until I have a lot of free time because that temple is a chore to get through. No only do you have to complete rightside-up, but you also have to complete the inverted way too, which is like two temples in one. And there are a lot of mini-bosses in this dungeon.  :o
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 06, 2012, 04:12:35 PM
I know that, I just didn't want to run out of time completing the castle tasks. Both in real time and in the game. ;)

And yeah, something is definitely fishy about "Ben's Theory." I mean, how can some former owner/deceased kid make a game supposedly haunted? Even if you used the most hardcore cheats ever in the game, no way would the game get THAT haunted. I think the guy who made that theory was just embellishing a bit.

I definitely agree about Stone Tower Temple. While it's my favorite temple in the game, it is REALLY long, and a chore to get through. Especially since you have to invert the temple and do a lot of backtracking. This temple is definitely gonna take a long time to get through.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Bandit King on August 06, 2012, 08:33:03 PM
Forgot to post that I FINALLY beat the Water Temple on Saturday. Thinking about ordering Majora's Mask with my remaining Wii Points after finishing up OOT.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 07, 2012, 01:11:41 AM
I've finally completed all the Ikana Castle tasks. Including defeating King Ikana and his guards. The guards were pretty easy to kill, but King Ikana was both tough AND annoying. Especially when his head followed you around the room and dealt A LOT of damage when he finally caught up to you. Nonetheless, I finally defeated all of them, learned the "Elegy of Emptiness," and made my trek all around the Stone Temple entrance part. It was sort of a chore, but I finally got to the top and at the very least got the warp point to it. I would have started the Stone Tower Temple today, but I knew I wouldn't have enough time. So I saved and went back in time. I'll start the temple tomorrow for sure.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 07, 2012, 01:16:02 AM
I haven't started the Stone Tower Temple yet either. I am hoping to get a move on it tomorrow though right after work since I have a long day shift tomorrow. I want to at least complete the regular Stone Tower Temple before I go to the inverted version of it. But that is like completing two temple combined anyways. But I love the minibosses in that dungeon like Garo Master and Gomess. And of course, more dancing ReDeads too.  :lol:

And another good note is that Twinmold is ridiculously easy for the last temple in the game. But the fight is so fun with the Giant's Mask.

And yes PPF, Igos du Ikana is pretty tough compared to his guards. But once you let light into the room, the battle is not so tough. And the cutscenes with them are almost as funny as Twinrova in the Spirit Temple.  :mrred:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 07, 2012, 03:06:19 AM
Yeah, the cutscenes are hilarious for sure. One thing I forgot to mention is how utterly creepy looking the "Elegy of Emptiness" statues look. In a nutshell:

- The Deku one doesn't look too bad, just a naked version of Deku Link really.
- The Goron one looks scary, especially with both possessed AND angry eyes.
- The Zora one looks anorexic and angry. That's the best comparison I can think of with that one.
- And the regular Link just looks.... bizarre. Seriously, he looks like he's stoned or something.

That being said, I still love the effect. Who would have thought caricatures of yourself would look so freaky?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 07, 2012, 12:34:18 PM
The creepypasta was fake to begin with, anyway. But it's a good thrill.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 07, 2012, 04:38:38 PM
I made it to my goal to make it to the inverted Stone Tower Temple. This dungeon is more tricky and a bigger headache than I thought.  :shock: You need to use all four forms of Link here, plus the dungeon is littered with enemies, including a personal favorite dancing ReDeads. The fight against the Garo Master was TOUGH. I don't remember having this much trouble before with it. Maybe I just suck at certain enemies in the game. But I got the Light Arrows and amanged to flip the entire dungeon inverted. Now, all I have left is to find the Giant's Mask and Boss Key...
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 07, 2012, 06:36:16 PM
Garo Master.... I vaguely remember him. I know there was one boss I REALLY had a hard time with, but I don't remember which. It must be the Garo Master one, thinking about it now. And since this temple is so time consuming and drawn out, I'm definitely gonna start playing earlier than usual tonight. That way I give myself enough time to finish the temple without restarting. And of course, I'll play Inverted Song of Time before I start, so I'll have enough game time to complete everything. Also, I'm pretty sure gathering and finding the fairies is gonna be tough too. But, it's still worth it because you can get the Fairy Sword (albeit as an item) in the end.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 07, 2012, 09:59:30 PM
Garo Master and Gomess aka two of the best mini-bosses.

Also, have you encountered that warping mini-boss again?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 07, 2012, 11:29:23 PM
I think you are referring to the Wizzrobe, which I have already battled in the Stone Tower Temple. Isn't this the third time we already faced one of these guys? Once in Woodfall, one in Snowhead, and now in Stone Tower. They are repetitive and frustrating battles anyways, so it is always good to get it out of the way. I haven't got the Giant's Mask or the Boss Key yet though...
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 08, 2012, 01:25:29 AM
Man, Stone Tower temple is such a chore to get through. Every single room takes too long to finish, takes forever gathering up the fairies, and there are waaaay too many mini bosses. And on top of that, just when I was about to fight the boss, I ran low on time. That's right, I was literally on the last 5 minutes right in the middle of the battle. Plus, it didn't help that I fell into the quicksand and had to start all over again. So now I have to go back in time and start the WHOLE DAMN TEMPLE ALL OVER AGAIN. :x I have NEVER been this frustrated with a temple in my life. The boss itself was easy, but I just didn't have the time. And I used inverted Song of Time right at 6 AM on Day 1 before I started. Honestly, I don't think it's even my favorite temple anymore. While the inverting is cool, this is just ridiculous. Seriously, two different temples? This is way too much to ask for someone on a major time limit.

I'm gonna have to start playing REALLY early tomorrow. Just so I don't have to spend 1029384766 hours trying to beat this damn thing. I am seriously pissed right now. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 08, 2012, 01:40:12 AM
PPF, I am pretty sure you don't have to complete the entire Stone Tower Temple again. As long as you have the Light Arrows, you can complete the inverted STT in a different three day cycle. It makes life much easier that way and you don't have to go back and complete every little detail from that dungeon. That is how I am completing the Stone Tower Temple, by completing both parts on different cycles. But as long as you have the Giant's Mask, the boss fight against Twinmold is really simple. Just make sure you have a lot of magic or Chateau Romani. ;)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 08, 2012, 01:43:56 AM
But how do you explain the fairies? In some of the rooms, I'm gonna have no choice but to go through nearly every room. Which also includes some of the mini boss rooms, some of which are completely unavoidable. Plus, I'm gonna need all the keys again too. And I can't use cheats to get them either. Of course, life will be much easier now that I've got the Light Arrows. But still, I have to gather up the keys and the fairies again. Which naturally, get reset once you go back in time.

I'm all set with the magic and some fairies too. I'm not worried about the boss, it's just getting there again that's gonna be the problem. =/
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 08, 2012, 01:49:11 AM
So wait, do you actually lose the Boss Key when going back in time? I always assumed you kept them. As for me, I played the Song of Time before I could finish the inverted STT because I didn't make much progress there and would continue from a different three day cycle. Does that mean I have to start the whole damn temple all over again?  :oops: :cry:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 08, 2012, 02:15:11 AM
Unfortunately yes. The only thing you keep is the Light Arrows and the Giant Mask. Otherwise, you have to get the map, the compass, the keys and the fairies all over again. Again, things reset once you go back in time.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 08, 2012, 07:57:03 AM
For some reason, I have a Navi on my laptop. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 08, 2012, 08:46:18 AM
Zelda MM: Hidden Cutscene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asWRJhHCmSk#)

 :lol:

If only Majora's Mask didn't have a time limit. It defeats the purpose of exploring "freely".
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 08, 2012, 11:41:47 AM
Between that scene and the Twinrova scene, its hard to choose which one was funnier. I like the Twinrova scene slightly better though because it lightens up the mood a little bit after such an epic battle. But yeah, I never got that scene before and have to try it sometime. That is one great thing about the masks in MM - it can change some of the dialogue and interactions in the game.

As for me, I am doing other stuff in Termina at the moment. I want to collect more heart pieces before taking on the Stone Tower Temple again. I am at the Swamp right now getting all of those annoying deeds out of the way. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 08, 2012, 11:43:16 AM
 :mryellow: = Rauru
 :mrgreen: = Saria
 :mrred: = Darunia
 :mrblue: = Ruto
 :mrpurple: = Impa
 :mrorange: = Nabooru
 :mrsilver: = Zelda

The Six Sages and their leader.   :mryellow: :mrgreen: :mrred: :mrblue: :mrpurple: :mrsilver:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 08, 2012, 12:01:48 PM
The Red Jaguars - Darunia
The Blue Barracudas - Ruto
The Green Monkeys - Saria
The Orange Iguanas - Nabooru
The Purple Parrots - Impa
The Silver Snakes - Zelda??????
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 08, 2012, 03:14:14 PM
Between that scene and the Twinrova scene, its hard to choose which one was funnier. I like the Twinrova scene slightly better though because it lightens up the mood a little bit after such an epic battle. But yeah, I never got that scene before and have to try it sometime. That is one great thing about the masks in MM - it can change some of the dialogue and interactions in the game.
I like Twinrova the best. Definitely lightens up the mood after a rather difficult battle. And good find on the deleted cut scenes too, I always love looking at them and discovering new stuff.

:mryellow: = Rauru
 :mrgreen: = Saria
 :mrred: = Darunia
 :mrblue: = Ruto
 :mrpurple: = Impa
 :mrorange: = Nabooru
 :mrsilver: = Zelda

The Six Sages and their leader.   :mryellow: :mrgreen: :mrred: :mrblue: :mrpurple: :mrsilver:
Okay, you definitely know how to read my mind. :o Because I've thought of that very same thing when it comes to OOT. I mean, I know it's pretty obvious either way with the medallions and the colors. But still, it pertains to running through temples. Albeit much bigger ones than what you see on Legends. :lol:

If you were to start a certain temple by order of teams, it would probably go like this:
Red Jaguars, Fire Temple - Darunia (Not uncommon that some people start with Fire Temple first)
Green Monkeys, Forest Temple - Saria (Usually everyone's first, plus you can't do Water Temple without arrows)
Blue Barracudas, Water Temple - Ruto (The third, middle temple, naturally)
Orange Iguanas, Spirit Temple - Nabooru (Not uncommon that this is some peoples choice at second to last)
Purple Parrots, Shadow Temple - Impa (Some people's choice for last, even though it's usually second to last)

Besides the Forest and Water Temple, most of the temple orders are the same as how they're introduced on the show.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 09, 2012, 01:13:19 PM
Zelda was suppose to be the leader of all the Sages, and I thought Silver fit her well for obvious reasons. But yeah, I guess that doesn't really work for her. :mrsilver:

Anyways, nothing really new on my MM progress. I have been doing other sidequests and collecting other masks. I just collected the Bremen Mask from Romani Ranch and got the Dog Race heart piece. I only have 10 heart pieces at the moment and I want to have at least 13 before I go to the moon. I am also missing a bunch of mask like the Romani Mask, Couple's Mask, and the Postman's Mask. I also need to get the Stone Mask or whatever the one that makes Link invisible also.

Hopefully I will try to take on Stone Tower Temple again soon.  :o
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 09, 2012, 01:22:55 PM
I've finished the final fight in TP, and let me tell you. It was hard and frustrating. More so than OoT.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 09, 2012, 03:48:08 PM
Anyways, nothing really new on my MM progress. I have been doing other sidequests and collecting other masks. I just collected the Bremen Mask from Romani Ranch and got the Dog Race heart piece. I only have 10 heart pieces at the moment and I want to have at least 13 before I go to the moon. I am also missing a bunch of mask like the Romani Mask, Couple's Mask, and the Postman's Mask. I also need to get the Stone Mask or whatever the one that makes Link invisible also.

Hopefully I will try to take on Stone Tower Temple again soon.  :o
Wow, you haven't gotten the Romani Mask or the Bremen Mask up until now? :o I got those quite a while back. And I currently have 16 hearts at the moment. And that's the amount of hearts you need to take on that Ikana Spirit House thing. I'll tackle that tonight. I want to have at least 18 hearts before going to fight the final boss. I know where to get some heart pieces, but others are just impossible to earn. :roll:

As for me, I finished Stone Tower Temple yesterday. And this time, I had no problem. I didn't use a walkthrough even once, not even to find the stray fairies. Life is so much better once you've got the Light arrows. And Twinmold is a cake walk, you just slash at either their tails or their faces. I don't think I got more than 5 points knocked off my health. After that, I went to the Fairy Fountain to get the Fairy Sword. Great item to have, but it should have been rewarded after Great Bay Temple in my opinion. Would have made those mini bosses much easier to kill. As soon as I got the sword, I went back in time and did the Anju and Kafei quest. As long and as tedious as this trading sequence is, I'd say this is my favorite side quest in the whole game. And I love the storyline behind it too. The only mistake I made was not getting the room key. Where you can eavesdrop on the Anju and the grandmother having a conversation. Other than that, everything else went smoothly, including the Sakon's hideout room with all the actuators. That's where I usually screw up, but I only stepped on one red actuator at most. From that quest, I've gotten the 4 remaining masks I needed, and now I have every mask. Excluding the Fierce Deity mask, which you don't get until the final boss. I should probably finish the game by this Friday.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 09, 2012, 05:53:59 PM
I really wish I could do the Anju and Kafei quest, but it is so pointless to do it for the Couple's Mask and a lousy Heart Piece. At the same time though, you do need it in order to get the Fierce Deity Mask. But then again, you also have to get some tough mask like the Don Gero Mask also. And wow you have 16 hearts? I really need to do a lot of catching up then! But first I just want to get Stone Tower Temple out of the way. And yes, Twinmold is indeed really easy and a joke of a boss. I guess that is good considering how lone STT is.

And isn't the Secret Shrine the place you fight all the mini-bosses again? I mean it is fun and everything, but it is also tricky and takes a lot of skill to beat.  :o
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 09, 2012, 06:15:55 PM
Yeah, the Secret Shrine is the one with all those mini bosses. You get a heart piece out of it if you finish everything. You also get a heart piece for banking 5,000 rupees. I have about 4800 ish, so I'm almost there with that one. Other than that, where else can I get more heart pieces? I mean, there is that one where you conduct a frog choir. But then I'd have to re fight those mini bosses again. Something I'm really not in the mood to do. :?

And yes, you have to have every single mask to get the Fierce Deity mask. Since you give those moon kids all of your masks to fight in their little dungeons. Even though the Couple's Mask is utterly useless, it's still worth having for the sake of completion. And good luck with your restart of Stone Tower Temple. It shouldn't be a problem this time around, since you now have Light arrows. ;)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 10, 2012, 12:29:34 AM
Oh yeah, that frog Heart Piece is beyond ridiculous.  :shock: You have to find the five frogs all over Termina in ONE three day cycle in order to get the Heart Piece. The problem is that it is ridiculous to find the frogs. I mean you can only find one in Snowhead while it is spring time, so that means you have to beat Goht. And two of the frogs involve you going into other dungeons in order to beat Wart. This is just way too much stuff to go through for a damn Heart Piece. And it all has to be done in one cycle too. :roll:

I know there are four heart pieces on the moon, one for each of the Boss Remains. The Goron Link one is beyond ridiculous also to collect where you have to roll through a series of ramps. The other three are not too bad IIRC.

And the Rupee Bank... I have no idea how many I have. I usually don't deposit them when going back in time. Another demanding heart piece.

And there is the Deku Playground in Clock Town that is also hard to get too.

Other than that, I am focusing on beating STT tonight. I am back to the inverted one and now need to get the Giant's Mask and fight Gomess for the Boss Key.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 10, 2012, 12:59:07 AM
Call me crazy, but I actually completed the Frog Choir one. I was bored, and I had nothing better to do. :lol: And you don't defeat Wart to get the Frog one in the Great Bay Temple. It's the Frog in a dirty bubble one you have to defeat. The three day cycle for that one is not bad at all. It would definitely help to play Inverted Song of Time though. And really, the Rupees in the bank one is not hard at all. I always bank my rupees, even if there really isn't too much of a point to it.

The worst one? Definitely the Deku Playground one. I tried it once, and I just couldn't do it. All I have to do now is fight the boss on the moon tomorrow, and then I'm done with the game. :D
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 10, 2012, 12:19:24 PM
Yay, I beat the Stone Tower Temple! It wasn't easy but I got the final boss remains and awakened all four giants. Now I have a choice on whether I go to the Moon or collect more Heart Pieces and Masks. I am thinking of collecting some more Heart Pieces and masks though and I might even go after the Fierce Deity Mask.  :mrred:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 10, 2012, 03:02:38 PM
I'd go and collect more masks if I were you. That way, you can give those moon kids all your masks, and then get the Fierce Deity Mask. I'd definitely get some more heart pieces too. I have 17 hearts, and I want at least 18 hearts before I fight the final boss. There's one heart piece in each moon dungeon, so I could easily complete another heart container that way. And I'm definitely gonna need fairies and some Chateau Romani too. Since this boss is gonna require you to use up a lot of energy. I could have done the moon bit last night, but I wanted to save it for tonight instead.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 11, 2012, 12:54:31 AM
At the time being, I am getting more heart pieces. I just rescued that stupid seahorse from Pinnacle Rock from Great Bay and got that heart piece. I also got the Octorok Archery one. This time around, it only took me around 7-8 tries to get it. With that being said, I have 14 hearts now and on the verge of getting 15.

And what is with the creepy hand in the Clock Town Inn? All it does is ask for toilet paper? Seriously, some of these Terminians are really weird.  :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 11, 2012, 01:32:39 AM
Yeah, I never got what the deal was with that mysterious hand dude. All you have to do is give him some paper to wipe his ass with. Totally creepy. O_O And you're lucky you mastered the Octorok Archery one. The best I could get was 48, just two away from the perfect score of 50. Last time I replayed, I got 49. The swamp archery game is harder. You have to get a score of 2,000 to get a heart piece. I'm lucky if I can even get a score of 1,000. Figures, with my luck in any kind of archery game. :roll:

As for me, I'm finally done with the game! The boss is so easy if you use Fierce Deity Mask AND slash the hell out of him. I bought Chateau Romani and drank it before the battle. And I bottled up some fairies, but didn't even use up one jar. Some of the dungeons are pretty tedious to get through, but it's still worth going into for the last remaining heart pieces. My final death toll is the whole game was one. No really, the only time I died was trying to take down Gyorg in Great Bay Temple. Last playthrough I only died 3 times, and even that's not bad. The credits at the end are pretty cool, but not as epic as OOT's credits are. One thing that annoyed me was at the end, Tatl basically told Link to "Get lost and go home so we can enjoy the carnival." Excuse me? I busted my butt and went back in time 1029384756 times and risked my life to save your precious little town. And this is the thanks I get for all my hard work?! And people find Navi annoying and an awful character. -_-

So, now that I'm done playing both N64 Zelda games, I don't know what is next for me. I probably won't download anymore emulators for those non N64 games, so this is it for me replaying Zelda for a while. But I'll still post in this thread, mostly to share more theories and funny comics with you guys.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 11, 2012, 02:02:31 PM
I have been doing a lot of mask collecting and making significant progress. Right now, I still need Don Gero's Mask and the Couples' Mask. I want to go after the Kafei-Anju Quest after i get Don Gero's Mask.

And as for Majora, I don't think I ever had trouble with him/her. The first form you can take down with Zora Link. Although it really becomes annoying when the other boss masks come alive and attack Link. But once you defeat them, they don't come bacl. I love the second form though, even though it was the easiest. All if does is dance around and throw lightning bolts at Link. Not very threatening I must say. The third form is the toughest, but it can go down quick though if you are quick with your Hero's Bow. Overall, the boss battle was fun from what I recall.

And yes, the Majora's Mask ending was pretty lousy and uninteresting. But then again, a lot of the Zelda game endings are just not good enough. But I liked the OoT ending more because it was more memorable. Overall, both OoT and MM are my all time favorite games.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 11, 2012, 04:53:41 PM
I didn't use Zora form for the first part of the final battle. I just used the Fierce Deity mask, works just as well. The second part of the battle is so bizarre. It's just dancing around humming some strange tune. If you use the Fairy's Sword, he's defeated very quickly. The third part is the hardest part. You've got to get as far away from the whips as possible. I used both Light arrows and Fierce Deity to take him down. Worked like a charm, and I didn't get more than 6 points taken off my health either.

The end credits to MM could have been better. The highlight of the credits are the Zora's performing. And you see Anju get married, yet you don't see Kafei anywhere. Or maybe I didn't look carefully enough. OOT's end credits were a lot better for sure. Even then, OOT and MM are my two favorite games as well.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 13, 2012, 11:06:37 AM
I hate to be a downer, PPF, but Blue Barracudas are before Green Monkeys.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 13, 2012, 02:06:00 PM
I realize that. I just figured some temples in OOT are meant to be in different order. Some people start Fire Temple before Forest Temple, and some people start Spirit Temple before Shadow Temple. It's not THAT uncommon.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 14, 2012, 04:56:26 PM
So yeah, I am about to face Majora soon. I still am on the Moon right now though still beating the boss section for each Boss Remains. I still have the Goht Remain section, which is hard as **** because that whole maze is hard to get through and not to mention tricky. I don't have all the masks either to get the Fierce Deity Mask, but I can still fight Majora considering I have 16 hearts and the big magic meter.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 15, 2012, 10:55:19 AM
Yeah, the Goht part was the worst. I can't tell you how many times I fell and had to start over. Also, accidentally stepping on the portals are pretty annoying too. Too bad you don't get Fierce Deity Mask, though if you have Chateau Romani and a bunch of arrows, you should do okay.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 15, 2012, 11:18:42 AM
Personally, I think the Fierce Deity Mask is kind of a free pass. It makes the fight too easy.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 15, 2012, 11:46:36 AM
Yeah, it does sort of. I mean, you can be at a distance and slash Majora with energy blasts and still beat it quickly.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 16, 2012, 03:30:39 PM
So yeah, I defeated Majora now and the battle was still pretty simple without Fierce Deity Link. I have defeated Majora before without the FD Masks, and it is really not that challenging. In the first form, you can use the Boomerangs of Zora Link to stun the Mask. But the annoying part is when the other masks come alive and attack Link. So you have to waste time defeating them before taking down Majora. :roll:

The second form is way too simple. Just shoot it with arrows and slash away at all. Although I do love how crazy and the music for this form. :P

The last form is pretty tricky due to the fact that it sends those spinners around the battle field that can mess up Link. I almost ran out of magic too against the final form. But really, if you get by the first two forms fine, then this one is not really a problem.

So I finished Majora's Mask with 16 hearts, 4 Empty Bottles, and 2/4 of the temple upgrades. I don't know if I am going to try and at least get all the masks. But I will still stick around in this topic and try to talk about other Zelda stuff. ;)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 16, 2012, 10:00:42 PM
So, anyone has the GameCube games?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 16, 2012, 11:00:20 PM
I have played Four Swords Adventure, which was a decent Zelda game but was a little too linear IMO. I have also played Twilight Princess, which is definitely a great game too. I have only played bits and pieces of Wind Waker though because I could never get into the quirky graphics of that game. :oops:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 17, 2012, 10:25:50 AM
I don't recall playing other Zelda games other than OOT and MM. I always wanted to try them out, but I'm not sure if I would really get into it. Oh well, congrats on beating MM, TRJ!
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 17, 2012, 10:39:28 AM
It's possible to play on the computer. There's an emulator for GameCube. Unfortunately, the music is very buggy on the emulator.

Anyway, I love TP.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 17, 2012, 02:46:02 PM
Twilight Princess is indeed great. I really need to go back and play it again. Although it just doesn't have the same charm as OoT and MM.  :mrred:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Bandit King on August 19, 2012, 07:52:21 PM
Finally beat OoT...and dear God, Ganon was tough as hell. He killed me three times, and I had to go through three bottled fairies in battle. But what's done is done, and I may be ordering Majora's Mask next weekend.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 20, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
Yeah, the final battle with Ganon can get tough. I had a terrible time beating him the first time around, but it wasn't too bad on my most recent playthrough. Once you get used to him, he gets easier. I personally hated the first part of the battle, with all the energy blasts. Especially the pukey looking blasts that you can't dodge. The second part is a little better, but it gets annoying having to dodge under his legs constantly. Oh well, at least Zelda holds him down for you so you can deliver the final blow.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 22, 2012, 02:02:56 AM
So how would you rank the dungeons overall in OoT everyone? These are my personal preference from favorite to least favorite:

1.) Spirit Temple
2.) Forest Temple
3.) Ganon's Castle
4.) Bottom of the Well
5.) Shadow Temple
6.) Water Temple
7.) Inside the Great Deku Tree
8.) Ice Cavern
9.) Fire Temple
10.) Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly
11.) Dodongo's Cavern
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on August 22, 2012, 10:56:43 AM
I can't rank that since I don't have OoT. Sorry. :(

I only have four Zelda games: The Legend of Zelda (NES), Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link (NES), A Link To The Past (SNES, but it's downloaded on my Wii), and Link's Awakening (Game Boy). I'm thinking about playing one of these games again (except for LA since I don't feel like it), but I don't know which one I should play. Which one should I play through again?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 22, 2012, 03:07:07 PM
How about the first? Since that was the one that started it all. I don't think I've ever played the earliest games before, but I heard Zelda 2 is really hard.

As for my rankings on the OOT dungeons:
1.) Spirit Temple
2.) Forest Temple
3.) Shadow Temple
4.) Ganon's Castle
5.) Water Temple
6.) Inside the Great Deku Tree
7.) Fire Temple
8.) Dodongo's Cavern
9.) Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly

To me, the Ice Cavern and the Bottom of the Well doesn't count. I only counted actual dungeons where you receive either a spiritual stone or a medallion.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 23, 2012, 03:30:18 AM
How about the first? Since that was the one that started it all. I don't think I've ever played the earliest games before, but I heard Zelda 2 is really hard.

As for my rankings on the OOT dungeons:
1.) Spirit Temple
2.) Forest Temple
3.) Shadow Temple
4.) Ganon's Castle
5.) Water Temple
6.) Inside the Great Deku Tree
7.) Fire Temple
8.) Dodongo's Cavern
9.) Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly

To me, the Ice Cavern and the Bottom of the Well doesn't count. I only counted actual dungeons where you receive either a spiritual stone or a medallion.
As long as there's a big boss, then it's a real dungeon to me.

I'm not sure how I would rank, but we're in agreement that Spirit Temple was the best.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 23, 2012, 11:31:05 AM
I don't consider the Ice Cavern or Well an actual dungeon either, more like a mini-dungeon. But they both have a Compass and Dungeon Map, so they are at least a form of a dungeon IMO.

As for PPF's list, it looks sort of similar to mine. Both of us rank the childhood dungeons low. Which makes sense since they were not very exciting or challenging. Even though I detest both Jabu-Jabu and Dodongo's Cavern, I ranked Jabu-Jabu higher than Dodongo because at least Jabu-Jabu had a unique dungeon. Dodongo's Cavern is so boring and linear.  :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 23, 2012, 03:47:48 PM
I really don't mind Dodongo's Cavern at all. It's a boring dungeon sure, but it's not the absolute worst. Jabu Jabu's Belly is just terrible. It's both annoying and tedious to get through, and the whole dungeon just looks.... gross. Plus, I hate having to carry Princess Ruto around everywhere. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 23, 2012, 07:08:46 PM
Yeah, Ruto is easily the most unlikeable character in OoT IMO. It was just a chore to cart her around inside that dungeon. And if you drop her in the water or leave her behind, you have to go all the way back to the area where you met her to get her back. And of course, she gets mad at you if you do leave her behind. :roll: They went a little over-the-top with the whole dungeon design. It really dragged on and I thought we were done after the Big Octo fight. And Barinade is also a pain to fight. Even though it is the last child dungeon in the game before pulling the Master Sword, they expected way too much.

And this is the exact reason why I detest the Fire Temple too. Too many areas where you could mess up in. And freeing all the Gorons were a chore too. I honestly wouldn't have cared if Volvagia ate those mother f'ers.  :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 23, 2012, 08:26:22 PM
Yeah, I don't like Fire Temple either. Too long to get through and so easy to get lost in. Though I personally didn't mind freeing all the Gorons. It's not like they were ungrateful once you freed them, or acted like a n00b and didn't thank you for freeing them. This must be an unpopular opinion, but I happen to like the Gorons. I think they're really neat creatures, even if they don't do too much. They're A LOT more interesting than the MM Gorons, who aren't even memorable outside the Elder Goron and that crying kid. Still dislike the Fire Temple and also Dodongo's Cavern though.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 28, 2012, 04:08:06 PM
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A few funny Zelda images I found. Sorry the first picture is so big, but just thought I'd post them. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 28, 2012, 08:41:07 PM
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Click Zoom to see the full image (http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/203/4/9/zelda__replaced_by_teh_akuma_yoru-d41bmlt.png)

A few funny Zelda images I found. Sorry the first picture is so big, but just thought I'd post them. :P

Those set of images made me laugh.  :lol: Navi is such a big mouth and instigator. I like how she basically made the whole situation worse. Although it is funny how the Fairy Ocarina mysteriously disappears the moment Link got the Ocarina of Time.   :o
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 28, 2012, 10:28:40 PM
Yeah, I'm surprised they never touched up on the "ocarina upgrade" in the game. Considering a bunch of comics/pictures I've seen feature Saria pissed at Link for having a different ocarina. Speaking of Navi being an instigator (and dumb), here's another one:

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/b/bc/Princesszeldanavi1is1an1idiot.jpg)
Idiot much, Navi?

And here are some REALLY funny ones in this blog post here. (http://theoande.blogspot.com/2011/06/legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-funny.html)

I know that naming your character that is kind of stupid, but I still found it funny nonetheless. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 02, 2012, 02:02:12 AM
Yeah, you can have a lot of fun with naming Link. Like you can name Link "Nabooru" and when you talk to her in the Spirit Temple and tell her your name, she will say "Nabooru? What kind of name is that?"  :lol: And there is so much other funny stuff you can do with Link's name.

And I feel dumb now because I finally understand that one Malon/Saria/Zelda picture.  :oops: Link was playing the Sun's Song and changing the time of day all the time in that comic strip.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 02, 2012, 02:05:31 AM
Yeah, he was bitter about not being invited to the picnic. I was hoping the day/night flashing would show up, but apparently it didn't. That must have added to your confusion. Oh well, it's easily googable. If you come across it, you'll see how the sky flashes on and off due to Link playing Sun's Song constantly.

EDIT: Actually, the sky flashes for me after all. Maybe your computer won't show that? If that was why you didn't understand the comic strip at first that is.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 02, 2012, 06:32:50 PM
Here are some more funny pics:

Link on The Roy Show! (http://www.deviantart.com/download/31321665/060404.jpg)
Part 2 (http://www.deviantart.com/download/33165951/royshow2.jpg)
Part 3 (http://th02.deviantart.net/fs17/PRE/f/2007/175/9/9/The_Roy_Show_3_by_CallistoHime.jpg)

Basically, The Roy Show is like The Jerry Springer Show. LOL at Darunia being the Steve-esque guard in the first comic strip. And Zelda and Malon's fighting in the second comic strip is equally hilarious. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 04, 2012, 12:36:44 AM
Luckily I have played Fire Emblem before so I recognize all the characters like Marth and Roy and understood the joke better. And yeah, I saw the flash in your previous comic strip when I used IE as my browser. It didn't work though when I used Opera. :o

So the real question is... who in OoT was the best girl for Link?

I always thought Zelda and Link would've been the best pairing. They were the one that went through the most together. It was the two of them (well, mostly Link) that took down Ganondorf. And not to mention, Link actually kept the Ocarina of Time and not discard it like he did with the Fairy Ocarina. :lol:

Saria and Link would be a good couple... if only Saria would grow up too. Adult Link and Saria would be too creepy and would have people making sexual scenarios like they did with Child Link/Nabooru.

I never really saw Malon and Link as a couple. They never really shared any moments together like the two above. All Malon taught Link was Epona's Song. And she was an entirely optional character to talk to after Castle Town anyways.

And of course Ruto. Let's not even go there with that one...  :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 04, 2012, 01:12:49 AM
I would definitely say Zelda was the best girl for Link. Considering how often they worked together throughout the Zelda series. Saria is great as a friend, but not really as a couple. And yes, the Adult Link/kid Saria combination would never work. That hook up wouldn't even be legal. XD And yeah, Malon was just a friend who only taught you a song on the ocarina. She wasn't even that important of a character besides that. And don't get me started on Ruto. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 09, 2012, 02:09:19 AM
Anyone else find Tingle in MM creepy? He is a 35 year old man dressed as a fairy and even his father is ashamed of him. Not only that, he is extremely annoying. Does Nintendo have to be an extremely weird character in every Zelda games?  :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on September 09, 2012, 02:36:23 AM
Nintendo is a character? ;)

I agree. And another thing that I hate is that we have to buy maps from him and go through the same speech whenever we talk to him. Sheesh.

Ocarina had Ruto, Twilight got the postman, Skyward got that annoying friend of Link's......
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 09, 2012, 02:43:07 AM
Ocarina of Time has a lot of annoying characters... Ruto, Kaepora Gaebora, Goron Link, Navi, Mido, Malon's father, and King Zora. Seriously, this game has to have the most unlikeable characters in the series.

I hate Kaepora the most though. His information is utterly worthless and once you read through all his crap, he asks you if you want to hear it AGAIN. And sometimes if you are not careful, you have to go through it again. At least Navi doesn't ask you if you would like her to repeat herself. :roll:

And yeah, the whole map thing with Tingle was annoying. He is such an overplayed character in the Zelda series anyways. He even got his own game that was named after him and he appeared in SSBB. I don't see what Nintendo finds in his character.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 09, 2012, 04:17:50 PM
I never found Goron Link annoying at all. Sure, his incessant crying explaining the situation at Fire Temple was a bit much. But at least he calmed down enough to show you where to go AND give you the Fire tunic. At least he wasn't like the Goron kid from MM who would NOT stop crying until you played the lullaby for him. And Malon's father was more of a filler than he was a terrible character. I found his sleeping sort of amusing in a way.

Agree about the owl though. He's got to be the absolute worst character ever in ANY Zelda game. Everytime you go somewhere even slightest unfamiliar, he'll state the obvious and give you a 1029384756 paragraph speech about the place. And the repeating of himself was even worse. And I never liked Tingle either. Especially since he constantly repeats the same speech over and over, even if you've already bought every map possible from him. Why he was overplayed in the Zelda series is beyond me.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 10, 2012, 01:57:14 PM
Oh yeah, the Goron Link in MM was much worse than the OoT one for sure. And the worst part is that the Goron Elder is the father for that baby. WTF?  :shock: I really hope Nintendo meant for him to be the grandfather at first. :o

So what is the most annoying temple in both OoT and MM?

In OoT, I always found the Fire Temple to be annoying. All of those fire enemies were extremely annoying and frustrating to defeat in the temple. And then there are so many areas you can mess up at and have to start over if you are not careful (like the Megaton Hammer room). And rescuing the Gorons was such a chore. I'd rather they all be eaten then have to go out of my way to rescue every single one of them. :roll:

In MM, it was definitely the Great Bay Temple. That temple was too over-the-top for me and it made the Water Temple look like the Deku Tree.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 10, 2012, 02:57:58 PM
Yeah, I didn't like Fire Temple either. Too long to get through, though I didn't mind freeing the Gorons. To me, it would be a shame if they did get eaten. Besides, it's not like they were ungrateful once they finally rescued you. Though their tips never really helped much. And I also hated Great Bay Temple. Way too easy to get lost in, terrible mini bosses, and the boss is just impossible. It's a miracle I only died once trying to beat that thing. -_-
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on September 10, 2012, 05:05:11 PM
Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - Farore's Trial [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3iQHton5Po#ws)

All I can say is "Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU........."
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on September 10, 2012, 05:54:18 PM
And the name of that Skyward annoying character... Fi, the companion of Link's who resides in his sword. Sure, state the obvious and waste valuable time.

This is why the only companion of Link's that anyone likes is Midna.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 10, 2012, 07:12:10 PM
Yeah, I liked Midna the most out of all the Zelda games I have played. She was both witty and useful, unlike most of other Link's helpers. Plus, she is the one helper you feel most attached to. The part where Zant banishes her to the Light World and you have to take her to Zelda was such an emotional segment of the game. The music is one of the best in the game that went along with that part also.

For some reason, I see people like Tatl from MM as a helper. Personally, I hate her more than Navi. Sure, she doesn't shout "HEY!!!" "LISTEN!!!" every five seconds, but she was so snippy all the time for no reason. Like when you want to get information on an enemy, she is like "You don't know what a ReDead is?!?!". Plus, I felt more attached to Navi than Tatl.

Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 10, 2012, 07:50:34 PM
I've never played Twilight Princess, but I hear Midna is really mean at first. And she only becomes nice to you literally overnight after fighting off the first boss in the first temple. Is this really true?

I also agree about Tatl. She was too snooty and always gave you a hard time if you asked about a certain boss. I also hated how at the beginning of the game, after all the havoc she's caused you, she'll just apologize out of the blue. She'll just say "listen, about all the stuff. Yeah, I'm sorry...." and expect you to forgive her right on the spot. My biggest pet peeve about her was at the end, after you're done beating the final boss, she says "now go away so we can enjoy the carnival!" I mean, we risked everything, put our lives on the line to save your precious little town, and this is how you thank us? It's like all the time spent with her meant nothing. Meh, Tael seemed more tamer and more saner. Maybe I should have gotten assigned to him instead. Though if there's one thing I liked about her, it was her bicycle ding whenever she needed to tell you something. It beats "hey!" and "listen!" by a longshot. Out of Tatl and Navi, I definitely liked Navi better.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 11, 2012, 01:17:02 AM
I don't remember Midna too well since its been a while since I have touched TP, but at first she acts a little like Tatl (snippy) towards Link early on in the game. But later she befriends Link and is more friendly acting towards Link. And unlike Link's other helpers, she actually helps Link in combat later in the game.

And speaking of rude characters in the game, I always hated Mido's attitude towards Link. The second you meet him he is already giving Link a hard time. He belittles Link because he didn't originally have a fairy and is jealous of the attention he gets from Saria and the Great Deku Tree. And then he makes an ass out of himself after the Deku Tree dies without knowing the true cause. And then later in the game, he has no balls when it comes to helping Saria in the Forest Temple. I don't feel bad at all that he will never see Saria again nor do I feel bad when he is sitting alone in Lon Lon Ranch at the end of the game. If he was killed in the game, I would've cared less too.  :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 11, 2012, 01:41:00 AM
Yeah, Mido was so annoying. Especially when he blames LINK for the Great Deku Tree's death, without any proof otherwise. And he was such an idiot not recognizing Link once he had grown. Plus, he was one butt ugly child too. With his emo hair and his overly squinty eyes. I read a wiki article about him once, and apparently in the mangas, he's a chronic bed wetter. No, I'm not kidding, that's how he's actually written. I guess he's not as tough as he acts. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on September 11, 2012, 07:33:19 AM
You know, in Twilight Princess, Ganondorf killed one of the six sages. It just so happened that the sage had the Water emblem. Ganondorf did us a favor. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 11, 2012, 10:05:23 AM
Too bad the Sage in question wasn't actually Ruto. :cry: But yeah, Ganondorf did do us a favor by destroying the Sage if Water. After all, it was the embodiment of Ruto, which is good enough for me.

I wouldn't be surprised if Mido was a bed wetter either. I guess the people that act like the biggest jerks are usually the one who are the real pussies in real life. I never liked his character at all and how could he let Saria go to the Forest Temple all by herself when he was the self-proclaimed leader of the Kokiri? I am glad he will never see Saria again, he doesn't deserve her. And I am glad he didn't turn out to be a Sage either.

Loser sits alone with King Zora at Lon Lon Ranch at the end regretting all the bad things he has done. He only brought it onto himself due to the way he acted. I feel more sorry to King Zora than Mido. Although I dont have much sympathy for King Zora after that butt sliding scene.  :x
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 11, 2012, 03:00:18 PM
Man, imagine if Ruto was actually killed. No more butt naked stalkers following Link around. But if was just an embodiment, close enough. :P

And yeah, what was Mido thinking sending Saria to the Forest Temple alone? He was the reason Saria got killed there in the first place. If the theory behind the sages dying is true that is. But, at the end of the day, Mido was just a filler character. And I'm definitely glad we don't see him much after Forest Temple is over. So I don't make a big deal out of him.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 11, 2012, 09:56:46 PM
If Mido would've died in the Forest Temple instead of Saria, no one would've even cared. Probably not even Saria or the Great Deku Tree. ;)

And speaking of the Forest Temple, I found this interesting analysis of the Forest Temple where a user from GameFAQS posted his thoughts behind the history of the Forest Temple. Now this whole analysis is just fan-made and none of it is actually true, but it is an interesting theory and a very good read. Its kind of long to read but worth it.

Quote
Everyone knows that the Temples in OoT are mainly based off of other types of building structures: Shadow Temple is a mausoleum, Fire Temple a jail, Spirit Temple a shrine of worship. So what is the Forest Temple? And what can we extrapolate about the Forest Temple (FT from now on)?

Immediately entering the area of the Sacred Meadow directly outsid the FT, we see high stone walls. Walking into the actual FT, we are inside the walls, but still outside a large building. In the center of the building, the main room, are branches to all other rooms in the building. In the back, there are two courtyards where you can even see the sky and more high walls away from the building. Deep inside the FT, the boss lair looks like a parlor. Judging from the building's defense structure, courtyards, a sewage system, and hidden location in the woods, the FT was most likely a castle.

However, now it is an abandoned castle, a haunted, abandoned castle. Why might this be so?

Considering Hyrule's bloody history, written all over the torture chambers in the Shadow Temple, it makes me believe that a great atrocity happened at the FT. The FT is situated in the far back of the forest, hidden deep away. It was most likely a final stronghold against invaders. After invaders got through the Lost Woods, they had to go through a small maze in the Sacred Meadow, most likely some sort of defensive measure. Indeed, a portcullis can even bar off the maze, trapping invaders within, forcing them to reach the FT. Guards of the FT, from the higher ground gained by the ladder could snipe off victims in the maze.

If invaders somehow broke through, they'd have to enter a narrow passage. More archers at the top could snipe away enemies and only a few guards could tackle on huge armies and still successfully defend (think 300). When all else failed, the actual FT is on yet even higher ground, with stairs (crumbled now) to reach it. Higher ground is always more advantage, especially for defense.

Thus, I feel that the FT is a castle, although more precisely a stronghold as a final defense. Inside, there are fine carpets, many rooms, a fairly relaxing courtyard (if monsters weren't around). This makes me believe that nobility or royalty used the FT as a final stand against invaders, and that they hid here.

However, the FT is now destroyed mostly; perhaps the invaders made it into the FT. That would explain some of the crumbling architecture. Moreso, if invaders actually made it into the FT, everyone inside was most likely slaughtered. This probably explains the ghosts and ghouls and inhabit the FT now, remnants of people's souls, lingering in the FT, wanting revenge. Eventually, they even obtained magic as they aged, creating twisting corridors, falling ceilings, and a rotatable superstructure, without even destroyed the upper buildings.

Perhaps that rotatable superstructure was designed before. There are many rooms below, hidden behind the thick walls, shut off by bars. Perhaps this superstructure was always there, and that basement was a jail. Perhaps then, the parlor was actually a high class torture chamber, where the nobles would entertain themselves with the screams of victims. But I digress.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on September 12, 2012, 05:24:00 AM
I'm thinking of getting Skyward Sword. If only I get the grades for it.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on September 12, 2012, 09:04:29 AM
Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - Gossip Stone Blastoff [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25CMN_YKSMw#ws)

Apparently, you can do this for the N64 games.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on September 13, 2012, 12:23:43 AM
I'm never getting Skyward Sword at this point.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 15, 2012, 02:54:57 PM
I actually wanted to get Skyward Sword this summer, and I regret not doing so. Now I have to wait until I get out of school in December to even try the game. I heard that it was really good though, and the story takes place before the events of OoT.

And speaking of OoT, what is everyone's favorite tracks in that game? For me, my top five would be:

1.) Spirit Temple
2.) Forest Temple
3.) Gerudo Fortress
4.) Zelda's Lullaby (especially the one that plays when you talk to Young Zelda)
5.) Song of Storms
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 15, 2012, 04:20:18 PM
My favorite tracks would be:

1. Forest Temple (Very addicting music)
2. Song of Storms (Also addicting)
3. The music where you sneak into the castle (Even as a kid, I always loved this tune and trying to avoid the guards)
4. Zelda's Lullaby (Both the background music and the ocarina tune)
5. Spirit Temple (One of the few temples that has a memorable tune)
6. Saria's Song (Darunia's dancing just makes it better XD)
7. Zora's Domain theme (Goes perfectly with the water/aquatic theme, and it's catchy)
8. Gerudo's Fortress (What makes it so great is it's theme of "avoiding the guards")
9. Hyrule Field theme (Even though it's played a little too much in this game)
10. Kakariko Village theme (I know it's a blander tune than the rest, but something about it makes it catchier)

Yes, I made a Top 10 instead of a Top 5. But there are so many good OOT tunes, it's hard to pick just five. My last two listed is more of an honorable mention, but they're all good tunes nonetheless.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on September 16, 2012, 12:50:19 PM
No one included the end credits music? :(
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on September 16, 2012, 12:51:59 PM
I think I said this before, but if the Kokiri leave the Forest, they will die. So Link leaving the Forest and not dying should have been the first indication that he was never one. Apparently, only Saria knew that he wasn't a Kokiri.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on September 16, 2012, 01:15:19 PM
Ooccoo is so awesome.

I mean, it's the color of Link's tunic.

Okay, to be clear, 00cc00.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on September 16, 2012, 02:46:23 PM
I actually wanted to get Skyward Sword this summer, and I regret not doing so. Now I have to wait until I get out of school in December to even try the game. I heard that it was really good though, and the story takes place before the events of OoT.
Actually, it's the first story chronologically. It explains the origins of the Master Sword, the Temple Of Time and the rebirth cycles.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 16, 2012, 02:57:54 PM
No one included the end credits music? :(
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. It's definitely in my honorable mention, if not Top 10. I could replace the Hyrule Field music with the end credits tune. Oh well, still a good tune nonetheless.

I think I said this before, but if the Kokiri leave the Forest, they will die. So Link leaving the Forest and not dying should have been the first indication that he was never one. Apparently, only Saria knew that he wasn't a Kokiri.
Wasn't Link Hyrulian though? If so, he definitely wasn't a Kokiri. Though there were some Kokiris celebrating at Lon Lon Ranch in the end credits, and nothing happened to them. Maybe it takes a while before they finally die?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 16, 2012, 05:14:48 PM
Yeah, there were Kokiri at Lon Lon Ranch at the ending of OoT. I always assumed that the whole "Kokiri dies when leaving the forest" was just a myth to keep the Kokiri from leaving the forest. It was probably to try and keep them safe because they lived a simple life in Kokiri Forest their whole life and outside of the forest was too dangerous for them. That's what I think anyways.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on September 18, 2012, 03:32:22 PM
Hero for each game:

The Legend of Zelda:
Hero of Hyrule

A Link To The Past:
Legendary Hero

Ocarina of Time:
Hero Of Time

Oracle of Ages and Seasons:
Hero of the Essences of Time and Nature

The Wind Waker:
Hero Of Winds
Waker OF The Winds

Twilight Princess:
Hero Chosen By The Gods

Phantom Hourglass:
Hero Chosen By The Ocean King

Skyward Sword:
Hero Chosen By The Gods
Goddess's Servant
Hero Of Legend
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Bandit King on September 20, 2012, 09:51:57 PM
Bought a Wii Points card today with some of my paycheck, and I intend on getting Majora's Mask over the weekend and seeing how much I progress.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Silver Monkey on September 20, 2012, 10:19:56 PM
Speaking of Virtual Console, weren't one of you looking for a Wii-compatible SNES controller to play ALttP with?: http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/ee14/ (http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/ee14/)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on September 20, 2012, 10:23:39 PM
Speaking of Virtual Console, weren't one of you looking for a Wii-compatible SNES controller to play ALttP with?: http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/ee14/ (http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/ee14/)

I think that was me. I ended up getting a Classic Pro controller instead. It works great for LttP. ;)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 21, 2012, 12:31:08 AM
Bought a Wii Points card today with some of my paycheck, and I intend on getting Majora's Mask over the weekend and seeing how much I progress.

Hopefully you played MM before, because it is a lot different than OoT and requires more patience to first playthrough than OoT. But you probably played it before, so you know what to expect. ;)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on September 21, 2012, 10:17:29 AM
OoT Dungeons:
1. Inside The Deku Tree
2. Dodongo's Cavern
3. Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly
4. Forest Temple
5. Fire Temple
6. Water Temple
7. Shadow Temple
8. Spirit Temple
9. Ganon Tower

TP Dungeons:
1. Forest Temple
2. Goron Mines
3. Lakebed Temple
4. Arbiter's Grounds
5. Snowpeak Ruins
6. Temple Of Time
7. City In The Sky
8. Palace Of Twilight
9. Hyrule Castle Tower

SS Dungeons:
1. Skyview Temple
2. Earth Temple
3. Lanayru Mining Facility
4. Ancient Cistern
5. Sandship
6. Fire Sanctuary
7. Sky Keep
8. Sacred Grounds

Seriously, why couldn't they be more creative with the names in OoT?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 21, 2012, 01:26:33 PM
Well, OoT was the first 3D Zelda game, so some of the stuff in the game is unorignal. I thought the first three kid dungeons were fine and creative enough. The temple names were pretty unoriginal, but they were following some sort of template when they made those dungeon names though. MM is also guilty of this by having "_____ Temple" as the name of every dungeon.

It wasn't until TP when they moved away from calling every dungeon a "Temple" and they started using more unique places as dungeons. Like Snowpeak Ruins and Arbiter's Grounds were original names and designs for a dungeon. I have heard good things about the Ancient Cistern dungeon also in SS.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Bandit King on September 21, 2012, 08:35:45 PM
Bought a Wii Points card today with some of my paycheck, and I intend on getting Majora's Mask over the weekend and seeing how much I progress.

Hopefully you played MM before, because it is a lot different than OoT and requires more patience to first playthrough than OoT. But you probably played it before, so you know what to expect. ;)
Yeah, I've played it before, but it's been a while.

And...interesting avvie. Biggest bitch in video game history. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 22, 2012, 01:57:39 AM
She is a pain in the ass. I wouldn't have mind her character that much if it wasn't for the whole Jabu-Jabu Belly chore with lugging her around. It wouldn't have been so bad if she didn't get mad at you for leaving her every five minutes.. I think characters like Mido and Tingle are definitely worst though. Tingle is so bad that they had to make a spinoff game based on him. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 22, 2012, 02:03:18 AM
The worst part was Ruto would complain about you leaving her everytime you went into a different room. That got old really fast, and it didn't help that Jabu Jabu's Belly was way too confusing to get through. Tingle and Mido sucked too, but I thought Ruto was the worst. The only positive thing I can say about the Jabu Jabu ordeal, is that I accidentally went into the mini boss (barf) room and got rid of Ruto too early. I had to use cheats to get the boomerang because I couldn't access one of the rooms that featured it. This happened on my most recent playthrough this summer. If it's any consolation, at least I ditched Ruto sooner and didn't have to carry her around everywhere.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Bandit King on September 22, 2012, 05:29:24 PM
The worst part was Ruto would complain about you leaving her everytime you went into a different room. That got old really fast, and it didn't help that Jabu Jabu's Belly was way too confusing to get through. Tingle and Mido sucked too, but I thought Ruto was the worst. The only positive thing I can say about the Jabu Jabu ordeal, is that I accidentally went into the mini boss (barf) room and got rid of Ruto too early. I had to use cheats to get the boomerang because I couldn't access one of the rooms that featured it. This happened on my most recent playthrough this summer. If it's any consolation, at least I ditched Ruto sooner and didn't have to carry her around everywhere.
She annoyed the crap out of me when I first played the game. At the end of the level, I'm like "Great, I have to MARRY this bitch now? Gimme a break..."
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 24, 2012, 12:15:57 AM
For some reason, all the girls in the game had to have some kind of interest in Link. I mean we had Zelda, Saria, Ruto, Malon, and even Nabooru. Although in Nabooru's case, it was not on the same level as the ones above.

But the only real ones that make sense to me is Saria and Zelda. Saria was a childhood friend that Link grew up with and she was the only one that actually cared for Link and didn't shun him like the other Kokiris. She was also the only one to understand Link's true self. Likewise, Zelda and Link were the ones that saved Hyrule together. They went through a lot, so it would make sense for them to have feelings for each other. I don't see how either Malon or Ruto could have any liking in Link when they hardly interact with him like the above two.

At least MM cut down on the whole relationship aspect. I mean you didn't see the Deku Princess or Lulu slobbering over Link. Although MM gave us Tingle. What the hell Nintendo? Why would you make a 35 year old man that dresses as a fairy? No wonder his father disowns him. :roll:

Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 24, 2012, 12:58:09 AM
Yeah, Tingle was lame. The most annoying part was when he kept repeating the same speech over and over again. I know it was because of going back in time a lot, but it was still too much. Oh well, at least we got inexpensive maps from him. And I totally agree with your above post. Saria and Zelda made the best sense for Link's love interest than any other character. As for the Deku Princess.... man that interaction/obsession would be creepy. :shock:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on November 13, 2012, 08:55:37 AM
Well, I decided to play "Majora's Mask"
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 13, 2012, 12:47:10 PM
Funny, I have the urge to play OoT over again too. Maybe I will do that over Thanksgiving Break next week? I would try MM again too, but that game would take longer than a week for me. ;)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on November 13, 2012, 03:42:34 PM
I've finally got through Snowhead. Once I get the upgraded sword, it will be Romani Ranch and then Zora Cape and then my least favorite Temple ever.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on November 13, 2012, 04:12:47 PM
I might play OOT or MM again, but since I have a new laptop, I'll have to download Project 64 again. It might a little longer before I replay though, since I just got done with both games as recently as a few months ago.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 13, 2012, 07:26:28 PM
I actually hate the Snowhead part of MM the most. I just hate everything about it from the characters to Goron Link. The temple sucked too and Goron Link was my least favorite transformation. Although Goht is a fun boss and I do enjoy the concept of the boss battle. But good luck with Great Bay Temple. I can't imagine going through that temple again. But one of my favorite parts of Great Bay is the Pirate's Hideout.  :mrred:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on November 14, 2012, 10:25:02 AM
So, from what I've seen, Ghirahim is a flaming homosexual.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on November 16, 2012, 03:28:04 AM
I've got my fourth bottle. Now for Great Bay Temple.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on December 15, 2012, 07:46:47 PM
Skyward Sword is excellent so far.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on December 18, 2012, 10:36:15 AM
I'm at the final battle.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 18, 2012, 09:21:50 PM
You are at the final boss already? I am still in the Sanctuary and I have had it for months.  :oops:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on December 19, 2012, 01:17:33 AM
The developers really love to troll the shippers.
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 20, 2012, 11:18:15 PM
I have to say that the Ancient Cistern was my favorite dungeon in that game. If you didn't know already, the Ancient Cistern is actually based on a true short story called "The Spider's Thread". It was a very creative and fun dungeon too. And Koloktos was a kick ass boss too. Here is more about the story "The Spider's Thread" and Ancient Cistern:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spider's_Thread (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spider's_Thread)

I think Ancient Cistern is my new favorite dungeon. Either that, or the Stone Tower Temple.  :mrred:

Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on December 21, 2012, 02:25:03 PM
Skyward Sword is a great game. If you have a Wii, buy it.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 21, 2012, 03:00:10 PM
I had SS for a few months now. But I haven't been able to totally finish it due to school. But I agree, I love this game so far. Ancient Cistern and Sandship were awesome dungeons. I like the whole time changing thing in Sandship.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on January 30, 2013, 07:32:07 AM
Thy're making a "The Wind Waker" remake for the Wii U. Interesting. I may get it.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 18, 2013, 09:26:45 PM
Don't know if I've posted these before, but:

http://ocarinaofwhatever.smackjeeves.com/comics/855444/002/ (http://ocarinaofwhatever.smackjeeves.com/comics/855444/002/)
http://loz.smackjeeves.com/comics/1551465/chapter-1-cover-page/ (http://loz.smackjeeves.com/comics/1551465/chapter-1-cover-page/)

Ocarina of Time web comics. :P They're both pretty funny, and very well drawn, like most comics are. Even though neither web comic is far along in the storyline/game, it's still worth looking through.
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 26, 2013, 02:20:30 AM
*Bump*

http://www.cracked.com/funny-4134-legend-zelda-ocarina-time/ (http://www.cracked.com/funny-4134-legend-zelda-ocarina-time/)
http://www.cracked.com/funny-4126-the-legend-zelda-majoras-mask/ (http://www.cracked.com/funny-4126-the-legend-zelda-majoras-mask/)

Cracked.com articles on both Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. :P I know nobody here has discussed anything Zelda in a while. But to those of you who are interested, here you go.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on September 02, 2013, 08:14:35 AM
I love Majora's Mask, but I think there are too few dungeons and too many sidequests. People want to progress with the main story, not go on and on with optional stuff.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 02, 2013, 10:58:47 AM
I love Majora's Mask, but I think there are too few dungeons and too many sidequests. People want to progress with the main story, not go on and on with optional stuff.

Ikana Canyon is the worst offender of that. To get to the Stone Tower Temple you have to:

- Cross the Ikana Canyon.
- Free the Gibdo Man with the Song of Healing.
- Travel through the Well. (Which is a pain in the ass -_-)
- Beat the Great Castle of Ikana
- Traverse a labyrinth in order to even reach the top where STT awaits.

Although all of these sidequests are fun. I have the Snowhead sidequests the most.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 02, 2013, 03:53:29 PM
You "hate" you mean? ;)

And yeah, traversing through Ikana annoys me the most too. Especially that one where you have to race that giant Gibdo, in order to get the skull/Gibdo mask. I hope you guys know what I mean, it's just before going through all the graves there. You literally have to start all over again if you made even one mistake. Just to get some piddly little mask. -_-
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 03, 2013, 10:34:44 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot the cemetary sidequest to for the Ikana Canyon. I do hate the race against Skull Keeta (sp?). Although I don't think he was a giant Gibdo, the Gibdos were the raping mummies. :P Speaking of Gibdos, I hate the bottom of the well part of Ikana Canyon. Especially when you have to find all that random crap for the Gibdos. Why would they need all that garbage anyways? They are dead. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 03, 2013, 10:47:51 PM
Thanks for responding to the very same thread I was just reading. ;)

And whoever the skull guy was, (I don't remember the names of these enemies).... yeah I hated racing against him. All for one measly little mask. You might as well go through another temple and fight yet another hard to beat boss. And yeah, the bottom of the Well was both annoying and creepy. Honestly, the only way to get through that is to use cheats. It certainly makes the process go by a whole lot faster.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on December 22, 2013, 03:20:07 PM
Just wanted to bump this in case anyone was thinking of replaying the likes of OOT and MM. And in case anyone wanted to record their progress. ;) I know we've already done that in the whole first half of this thread, but we can start over again if anyone's interested. I might replay both games. It might be a few days before I actually get to it though. Plus, I need to download the Project 64 emulator again. :azn:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 15, 2014, 09:38:45 PM
So yeah, I am revisiting Ocarina of Time right now with a new game. I am going to post my observations throughout Link's journey this time around. Right now I am collecting the tools I need before I can pass Mido. God, I hate the Deku Tree dungeon now for some reason. Maybe because it is too slow? I am kind of loathing to start it. Also, Mido is a huge asshole.  :?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 15, 2014, 09:42:57 PM
Yeah, I hate Mido. He looks like a freaking emo kid, and his eyes scare me. And the Deku Tree is just plain boring. Maybe it's because it's the tutorial level and everything is so self explanatory. Either way, I'm probably gonna start playing again soon too. Not today though, probably tomorrow or sometime this weekend. We'll see.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 15, 2014, 09:48:57 PM
Yeah, I hate Mido. He looks like a freaking emo kid, and his eyes scare me. And the Deku Tree is just plain boring. Maybe it's because it's the tutorial level and everything is so self explanatory. Either way, I'm probably gonna start playing again soon too. Not today though, probably tomorrow or sometime this weekend. We'll see.

Yeah, there is a reason why Saria or the Deku Tree didn't like him. I don't know how he became the "leader" of the Kokiri anyways. The beginning of the game drags on though. And the reason I hate the Deku Tree is for the exact same reason you posted: it is suppose to be a tutorial level. Navi literally stops you before you can complete every action in the game. I wish there was a way to skip all that crap.

Anyways, as we speak, I am talking to the Great Deku Tree right now before I go inside of his body. I remember how depressing it was to listen to his dialogue. Oh well, time to hear "HEY LISTEN" for the next hour. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 15, 2014, 09:52:54 PM
What's even more depressing is that the Deku Tree dies after you're done with the level. And guess who blames Link for killing him? You guessed it: MIDO! Oh well, at least Saria was the Forest Temple/Kokori sage instead of him. If that's any sort of consolation.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 15, 2014, 10:23:17 PM
I remember first playing this game on how tough the Deku Tree was. For example, I was stuck in the room with the Fairy Slingshot for a long time. I didn't realize that you had to shoot down the ladder from the ceiling.  :oops: And the Deku Scrubs or whatever the enemies that shoot the nuts at you were tough too. And they expect you to complete this dungeon with three hearts?  :?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 15, 2014, 10:42:25 PM
Well, when I first started replaying this game for the first time (before this thread existed), it took me almost a week to get past Deku Tree. I think I died a good 5 times before I even reached the boss. :lol: Of course, I breezed right through it when I replayed the game again over a year ago. There actually is a way to play this game with literally only three hearts for the entirely of the game. I think they call it "challenge mode." Though I don't know how that can be pulled off, escaping from the bosses unscathed, in the later portions of the game. :shock:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 15, 2014, 11:59:25 PM
Just completed the Deku Tree dungeon and Queen Gohma. I almost kind of died with her boss fight because of her stupid larva.  :oops: She is a pretty tricky boss for the first boss of the game. Something I learned not too long ago is that you can either stun her with the Fairy Slingshot OR the Deku Nuts. If you use the Deku Nuts though, she won't be stunned for as long.

Here is my score for the Dungeon

Inside the Great Deku Tree - 4/10
+ A nice thorough tutorial for the introduction of the game. Navi explains all of the details that Link must know pretty well.
+ The dungeon is pretty generous when it comes to health as there is plants everywhere that Link can break.
+ The puzzles and enemies are pretty fair for the first dungeon.
+ Queen Gohma was a cool boss and better than some of the bosses later ine the game.
- This dungeon is way too long due to Navi's tutorial. You should be able to skip her crap on subsequent playthroughs.
- The dungeon is a little too challenging for the first dungeon. Especially when Link only has three hearts and a very limited weapon choice.
- The puzzles were repetitive and boring. I mean all of them were "Grab a stick and light a torch".
- There are some areas when you first play through it where you have no idea what to do. (Slingshot room, giant spider web in the middle).
- Queen Gohma is a little too much for the first boss.

Time to head out for Hyrule Field.  :mrchameleon:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 16, 2014, 12:42:20 AM
I see you were inspired to score the level like with our episode rankings. :mrchameleon: I agree with your assessment too, though I always thought the Deku Tree was a cakewalk. I'm definitely gonna start playing tomorrow, and I'm already gonna need to haul ass to catch up to you. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 16, 2014, 12:49:41 AM
It won't take long to catch up where I am.  :mrred:  I just finished talking to another beloved OoT, the broken record owl.  :roll:  :roll:  Why did the producers include the option of him repeating himself again? And even worse, the option for him to repeat himself is the first button when he asks the question.  :| Next up is Kakariko Village. I will probably collect the stupid chickens for the lady to get my bottle and then visit little Zelda in the castle.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 16, 2014, 12:57:45 AM
God, don't get me started on that stupid owl. I hate that thing with a passion. Stop following me around and let me play the game dammit! :x And don't forget to randomly dilly dally around all of Hyrule Field and Kakariko Village. And don't forget to terrorize the poor chicken while you're there too. :lol: Here's a tip for you: If you're being chased by the cuccos, exit through the graveyard, NOT towards Hyrule Field. I used to make that mistake all the time as a kid, and I died A LOT because of it. XD
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 16, 2014, 08:45:17 PM
I am about to enter Hyrule Castle and visit the beloved Princess Zelda. I spent the whole 1.5 tying up lose ends though. Like I got the bottle or collecting all the chickens and played some of the games in Hyrule Castle town to get some upgrades and heart pieces. Now I have 5 heart pieces and about to wake up Talon before I go pass the incompetent castle guards. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 16, 2014, 08:47:55 PM
And I just finished beating Gohma. :mrgreen: She was easy as heck, though I almost died at one point standing to close to her. Now it'll be my turn to dilly dally around Kakariko, and talk to the princess of course. I knew the beginning portions of the game would be a breeze :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 18, 2014, 03:35:36 PM
Well, I talked to the princess and did all of Darunia's menial tasks last night. That includes learning Saria's song, getting the Goron bracelet, and going through Dodongo's Cavern. It was a breeze to get through, and the boss was equally as easy. Though I did have to use up a fairy jar, I kept standing too close to his fire breath. XD After that, I went to the Death Mountain fairy fountain, got the magic meter, learned Sun's Song in the graveyard, and learned Epona's song at Lon Lon Ranch. And yes I played the cucco game. I won it on my second try, just like last time.

Tonight, before I tackle that dreaded, loathsome Jabu Jabu's Belly, I'm gonna continue the "Happy Mask" trade off quest, collect some more heart pieces, do all the menial Zora tasks, then off to Jabu Jabu. -_- That's my progress as of right now. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 19, 2014, 12:39:24 AM
Now, you are officially ahead of me. :lol: Whenever I get to the Dodongo's Cavern part, I can never play it in one sitting. I hate that dungeon and find it utterly boring. :roll: The boss was pretty lame too. Right now, I am about to get the magic meter from the creepy lady from Death Mountain. At the same time, I am going to collect more heart pieces. I only have 6 right now and that won't cut it before heading to Jabu-Jabu. I know I am missing a couple from the Graveyard and Hyrule Castle Town. I am glad that I have two bottles now though (one from the chicken lady and one from Talon). I will get a third one from the beloved Princess Ruto's letter.

Here is my score for Dodongo's Cavern:

Dodongo's Cavern - 2/10
+ The split dungeon is pretty neat and it even includes the upper floor.
+ The Lizalfos were pretty cool mini-bosses and were a good challenge.
+ The emphasis on the bomb usage was well implemented for this dungeon.
- The bomb puzzles were way too obvious and got annoying and old fast.
- The Lizalfos fights were really cheap and you have the potential to fall off the stage.
- The fire is very annoying in this level, especially since your shield is made of wood.
- King Dodongo is a joke of a boss.
- This dungeon dragged on way too much.

This was easily my least favorite Zelda dungeon. :(
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 19, 2014, 01:46:32 AM
Dodongo's Cavern is such a cakewalk to get through though. You just follow whatever path, get all your stuff, and then boom, off to the boss. But yeah, it is a rather dull dungeon. Too dark and linear. As of right now, I have just finished Jabu Jabu's belly (yuck). It's amazing how I'm just breezing through this game. And this time I didn't make any mistakes by entering the wrong room, like I did last time. :P But that doesn't mean I liked carrying Ruto around, and getting lost in nearly every room I entered. Seriously, it takes you forever just getting the map and compass. I circled the main parts of the dungeon a good 10+ times before I eventually found those rooms. :roll: The mini boss is a huge pain in the ass. It keeps turning around too much before you can do anything with it. And the boss was even worse. I had to use at least one fairy jar before I finally took it down. I had to use two jars for the mini boss too. Needless to say, I'm so glad to be done with Jabu Jabu. I think THAT dungeon is worse than Dodongo's cavern. So after that, I watched all the cut scenes, pulled the sword out, and now I'm an adult! Tomorrow I'll get Epona, do the graveyard race thing, (I believe that's where you get the hookshot), get more heart pieces, then off to Forest Temple. :mrgreen:

Oh, and here's an interesting note while playing. This was something I remembered from reading an article on some random OOT tidbits a while back. Just after the Zelda/Ganondorf cut scenes, (when you acquire the Ocarina of Time), if you go to the back alley Market Place, you'll run into a guard randomly lying down. You can talk to it for a little while, and then it will stop moving. If you speak to him again, Navi will say "He's not moving anymore." That's right, you'll literally watch a guard die right in front of your eyes. It's creepy some of the stuff that's added in there. :shock: But you have to do this just before you pull the sword for the very first time. Otherwise, it won't work.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 19, 2014, 11:46:49 AM
I actually kind of like Jabu-Jabu and that dungeon is much better than the first two (Deku Tree and Dodongo). It is way too hard for the third dungeon in the game, but I like the idea of exploring a big fish. :P My problem with that dungeon is that it is way too easy to get lost. Also, carting Ruto around is a pain in the ass too.  :? The enemies are all super annoying too, and I hate the Big Octo boss. Although I use a Deku Stick on him now since it kills him in one hit. :lol:

And I have encountered that very same guard before too. It is a pretty interesting find too, especially since he disappears after you travel to the future. It is also very depressing knowing that he most likely died. This game is full of small moments that can be easily overlooked.  :o
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 19, 2014, 03:22:53 PM
Yeah, Jabu Jabu's belly wasn't nearly as bad as the last few times I went through it. Still my least favorite dungeon though. By the way, when do you get the extension on the magic meter? I think that's what you get at the Death Mountain Crater fairy fountain, but I'm not sure. And I need an extension on my wallet too. I believe you get that at the Skulltula house at Kakariko Village.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 19, 2014, 06:10:43 PM
The magic meter extension can be obtained from the Great Fairy in the Death Mountain Crater as Adult Link. You need the Megaton Hammer to get it though. But it is worth it because it is necessary later on in the game. Also, the two wallet upgrades can be obtained from the Skulltula House in Kakariko Village. IIRC, the first one that holds 200 rupees can be obtained after you collect 10 Skulltula tokens. ;)

One thing I noticed in this game is that I never had a problem with holding rupees. I always have more than enough because it is so easy to fill your wallet. Plus, there is not much areas where you need to buy stuff with for the rupees. I almost never buy anything from any of the stores anymore.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 19, 2014, 07:09:16 PM
Same here. It's so pointless even opening up random treasure chests because all it is is rupees. I can't tell you how many times I opened up a chest, got 50 rupees, but was already maxed out. Still want the extension though. At least maxing out will be a slower process with 200 as the limit instead of a measly 99. And I figured the magic meter extension was at Death Mountain Crater. So that's obviously gonna have to wait. ;)

Either way, I should start Forest Temple by tonight. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 19, 2014, 10:50:37 PM
Adult Link portion is where the fun really begins. I never really cared for the child portion really. There is just not much to do and your inventory is really limited. I do like how you can travel back in time and change events between the 7 years. ;)

I have finished Jabu-Jabu too. I always get stumped by the Boomerang location just because those tentacle things all look a like and all of the rooms look a like. -_- Ruto is still highly annoying too and I wonder who thought it was a good idea to carry her around. Other than that, I have all three Spiritual Stones now.  :mrgreen:  :mrred:  :mrblue: Before I go back to the Temple of Time, I need to collect a few more heart pieces. Like the lost dog in Market Town and a couple in the Lost Woods.

Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly - 5/10
+ Very interesting dungeon design. Inside the body of a giant fish? All of the rooms and walls look like you are exactly inside a giant fish.
+ This portion of the game is very challenging and prepares you for Adult Link.
+ Boomerang is an awesome weapon and this dungeon does a great job using it.
+ Big Octo was a very challenging boss, as well as Barinade.
- It is so easy to get lost in this dungeon. Especially when you have to defeat those three colored tentacles.
- Barinade's boss fight was way too confusing.
- The enemies were way too annoying in this dungeon. I didn't like a single enemy. :roll:
- The dungeon kind of dragged on too long.
- PRINCESS RUTO  :x
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 20, 2014, 01:31:41 AM
Yeah, the adult portions of the game is when the game gets REALLY interesting. So many weapons to use, so much stuff to do, and of course, you can go back in time whenever. ;) As of right now, I've gotten Epona, got the Hookshot, and now I'm in the Forest Temple. I've completed everything except the boss. I happen to really like this temple, though it does get confusing pretty quickly. And I love the music to it. :mrgreen: Very catchy, and it adds to the overall mysterious feel that the temple has. Tomorrow I fight the boss, which I'm not particularly looking forward to.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 20, 2014, 02:26:57 AM
Oh, and here's a word of advice on some things:
- If you race Ingo, always race with Epona. You can call her over by playing Epona's song. It's MUCH easier to win both races with Epona than any other horse. Otherwise, your horse will go way too slow, and you'll be cheated out of 50+ rupees.
- Once you ride Epona, try not to run over the cuccos too much. If you do, they'll get pissed at you and swarm you, like they do when you hit them with your sword. Don't worry though, you won't get any health taken off. I fact, if you ride of Epona around the ranch, the cuccos will not even catch up to you at all. Either way, try not to bump into them too much. ;)
- Good luck with the Dampe race game. I got a pathetic 1:14 as my final clock in time. If I'm that bad now, no way will I make the under a minute mark just to get a heart piece. :roll:
- Be extremely careful fighting the Stalfos in the Forest Temple. It takes TWO full points off your health if it jump attacks you. It's especially tricky when you're in the room where you get the arrows, and you have to fight three at once. Two of those Stalfos will literally come right back to life you're too slow beating them, like I was. It took me TWO fairy jars just to beat them. Good thing I still had some saved from Jabu Jabu's Belly. :o
- And don't forget to talk to that back alley guard, like I mentioned above. If you want to watch a random guard die that is. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 20, 2014, 09:43:41 PM
The Dampe race is very cheap because the flames allows you for very little room for error. It doesn't help that the flames he throws are conveniently in the middle of your path. To me, this is the hardest heart piece to get in the game because of how hard it is to finish under a minute. I just completed this race right now, and I finished with 1:08 left. I am not worried about that heart piece for the time being though. I got the Hookshot at least.

Next up is the Forest Temple. I always hate fighting through the Moblins in the Sacred Forest Meadow. They are another cheap enemy. But I love the Forest Temple and it is a very solid dungeon.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 20, 2014, 11:24:46 PM
And I finished the Forest Temple. :mrgreen: The boss was kind of a chore to finish, but beating down isn't the hardest part to me. It's getting him down  from those portraits that's the hardest part. It took me 2/3 fairy jars to beat him, so it's certainly no cakewalk. After awakening Saria the sage, I got teleported back to the Deku Tree, where you got to talk to the Deku sprout. And I've got to say, he tells a very interesting story about Link and how he got to Kokiri Forest in the first place. Apparently his mother died during a war, and she gave him to the Deku Tree so he could keep an eye on him. But Link is actually a Hylian by blood, hence the reason he's the only one who grows up. All the other Kokiris stay kids forever. Interesting back story on Link there I must say.

As soon as my duties were done in Forest Temple, I went to get some heart pieces, finished the mask trade off thing, and now I'm in Fire Temple. :mrred: And honestly, this temple is not as bad as I remembered. Sure it takes a long time going through each room, but it gave me surprisingly very little trouble this time around. I didn't even peak at a single walkhrough either. I did have to use one on Forest Temple yesterday though. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think Fire Temple is starting to grow on me a little. :o Still don't fancy the temple though. All I have left to do is fight the boss, but I'll do that tomorrow. Once I'm done with Fire Temple, I'm gonna get the Biggoron Sword, collect some more heart pieces, and maybe go through the Kakariko Well. You can go through the well whenever, right? Albeit as a kid of course. ;)
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 22, 2014, 04:19:18 PM
Beat Volvagia last night. Man, was it easy. I usually have to use up a whole fairy jar just to beat him. This time, I only had 4 points taken off my health at most. I guess I'm getting better and better at this game. After that, I went to Ice Cavern, got Iron Boots and Zora tunic (my personal favorite), got the Biggoron sword, and now I'm halfway done with Water Temple. Another temple I don't fancy. Seriously, I hate changing my boots and all the water levels every three seconds. -_-
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 22, 2014, 09:15:22 PM
I just beat the Forest Temple myself not too long ago and of course I enjoyed every minute of it. I love the design of this dungeon, the music, and the enemies. The whole temple is like an abandoned mansion in the middle of the woods. I really wish they told us some backstory for these temples. I mean who built the Forest Temple? The Kokiris sure didn't. Of course, I struggled with that Poe block puzzle. <_< And I also struggled with Phantom Ganon too. I don't know why because I never have a problem with Ganondorf? This dungeon was very memorable and I love the dialogue between Link and Saria after she gives you the Forest Medallion. Also, Mido being upset about not being able to see Saria ever again was kind of depressing too. But he deserved it. ;)

I am going to do something different for once and do the Water Temple over the Fire Temple. You don't need the Megaton Hammer to beat Water, so I can knock this temple out of the way. I hate the Ice Cavern part of the quest, but the Water Temple is pretty fun. I know the temple gets a bad rap among Zelda fans, but I enjoy the challenge it imposes. :P And the Dark Link fight is epic too.

On the other hand, I hate the Fire Temple. The dungeon is so boring and there is quite a few areas where you can mess up. Also, the Volvagia fight is very cheap too. And thanks for reminding me out Biggoron's Sword, I should get that before I go to the Water Temple.  :mrblue:
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 23, 2014, 01:41:03 AM
Wait, you can go to Water Temple second? I realize you don't need a hammer in that temple, but what about Dark Link? You can hit that thing with a hammer and it will kill him quicker. Hell, you're the one who showed me that method last playthrough, so now it's the other way around and I'm reminding you about it. :lol: Speaking of Water Temple, I beat Morpha not too long ago. It's an easy boss like expected, but it's so annoying when it keeps moving around. I only had about three points taken off my health at most. And the process of beating Morpha goes by MUCH faster when you have the Biggoron Sword. I personally dislike Water Temple, and I feel like it kind of deserves the bad rap it gets. It's very pretty looking inside, especially with the water reflections, and the music is interesting. But it's such a chore to get through, especially if you forget about a key in the temple. Which is what happened to me at one point. But it is better than Fire Temple and Shadow Temple. I'm definitely glad to be done with it. After that, I got the fire arrows (got it on my first attempt), went back in time to go to the Well, cheated my way through the Treasure Chest game, and now I've made it to Shadow Temple. :mrpurple: I'm only at the starting point though, and I'll take that on tomorrow. I currently have 14 hearts right now, one of them being a completed container.

And I must say, I HATE the Well. Not only is it a creepy, gross place, but it's so annoying having to fall through the gaps and have to keep climbing back up to the top levels. And I also hate the Dead Hand mini boss, in the room where you have to get the Lens of Truth. The hands literally trap you, with no chance at escaping it. And here's an added bonus. Remember that pet peeve of mine of me opening up a chest full of 200 rupees, and already being maxed out? It happened yet again here, in that invisible chest you can open. -________- If you're gonna put 1029384756 different chests throughout some disgusting excuse you call a dungeon, at least give me some useful stuff. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 23, 2014, 03:28:31 PM
Yeah, you don't need the Megaton Hammer in the Water Temple. I have done the Water Temple before the Fire Temple before and never really had much trouble. The Hammer does make life easier against Dark Link, but you can kill him other ways like with Din's Fire and the Biggoron Sword. Or you could do the old fashion way and use your regular sword. :P Of course, that makes the battle more tough and longer. Overall though, I like the challenge that this dungeon provides for us. Of course, there are some parts I hate about it like the room with all the boulders and vortexes. :roll: I am not a fan of Morpha either.

And I agree with you 100% about the Bottom of the Well. The dungeon is just a carbon copy of the Shadow Temple, and it is so tiny and serves no purpose except getting the Lens of Truth. It would've been better if they incorporated it into the Shadow Temple and have Adult Link collect both the Lens of Truth and Hover Boots there. The annoying part is that you have no clue where the gaps are in the floor until you reach the Lens of Truth. So you are just going through rounds of trial and error to try and find all of the gaps. It's also extremely annoying when you fall down and land next to a ReDead and lose a lot of health. And then have to climb all the way back up to the top again. :roll: And of course, Young Link doesn't exactly have the best weapons either. :? And even after you get the Lens of Truth, there is nothing else to do except collect a couple of Skulltula tokens. That is why I don't care for the Ice Cavern or Bottom of the Well. They were more like filler dungeons to me. We could've done without them and instead maybe have one more temple in the game like the Ice Temple?
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 23, 2014, 04:17:27 PM
Thankfully, I didn't get humped by a Redead. I just played "Sun's Song" to freeze them. Couldn't they have just given Link another kid temple to work on, like you said? Now that I think about it, wasn't there supposed to be a fourth kid dungeon for Link? I read this somewhere a long time ago, but there was supposed to be a Light Temple, which was basically what the kid version of Spirit Temple is. Once Link is done with that, he goes straight to the Temple of Time, ages 7 years, and that's where he gets the Light Temple medallion from Rauru. Is that actually supposed to be true, or was that just a theory? I have a feeling it's real, since the article was about secrets and revelations of OOT. It certainly would've made more sense to earn the yellow medallion that way, instead of have it just handed to him willy nilly the second he becomes an adult. :azn:

And I also don't like the Ice Cavern. I especially hate the room where you have to bottle up Blue Fire for the first time. It's the big room with the frozen bats and ice sculptures blowing wind at you. I can't tell you how many times I got frozen by either one of those things. I especially hate it when they freeze you consecutive times. :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 24, 2014, 02:45:35 AM
The Beta version of OoT was suppose to have an Ice Temple. There was like a beta version of it with one room at least. A lot of people speculate that the Ice Cavern was actually the beta Ice Temple. I am not sure why it didn't make it to the final cut at all. I guess there were time constraints? Also, the Medallions were suppose to be some kind of power-ups when collected to. Like the Fire Medallion was suppose to act like Din's Fire, etc. I am not sure why this didn't make it to the final cut because it would've made the Medallions more useful. :?

Anyways, I finished with the Water Temple. Took me a good two hours because I kept messing up in the room with the boulders and vortexes. I also beat Dark Link with the Biggoron Sword. I did die once, but I had a Fairy in my jar to save me. I immensely struggled though with Morpha. I don't know why but my problem was that he kept grabbing me. :roll: Plus, the spikes on the wall make you take little damage fast too. I finally beat it though, and had to listen to Ruto's stupid dialogue. It looks like it will be the Fire Temple next.  :mrred:
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 24, 2014, 02:55:25 AM
Yeah, I figured the Ice Cavern was supposed to be yet another dungeon for kid Link to play in. But I also heard about the Light Temple being another dungeon as well. It would've made the Light Medallion acquisition make a lot more sense. Instead of it appearing out of the blue. And they really should've utilized the medallions as actual powers, like the Din's Fire one like you said. I mean, in every sage you awaken, it always says "so and so adds their power to you." It just makes the medallions look pointless.

And I beat Shadow Temple not long ago. For some reason, I always struggle with Bongo Bongo. Maybe I'm just too slow, but I can never beat that thing without blowing through every last very jar. And just like last time, it gave me my very first death in the game. The thing I struggle with most is the eye. I can never aim it without it plowing into me. Everyone says it's easy, but it's extremely hard for me. Yet I had little to no problem with Morpha, and beat that thing very quickly. Go figure. :lol: As soon as I was done with that, I collected more skulltulas, and got a heart piece for collecting 50 of them. And on top of that, I got 10 bomchus too. Not mad at that either, since you do use them for the Spirit Temple. Tomorrow, it's off to Gerudo's Fortress. There's at least three heart pieces I can get there, so that's yet another container I can complete. :mrorange:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 24, 2014, 12:55:04 PM
Shadow Temple is way too easy of a dungeon for me. I use to love this dungeon, but I am not a fan of it anymore. I think it has to do with how over-the-top the horror theme of the dungeon is. We could've done without the guillotines or ReDeads in every room of the temple. The Forest Temple was more scary than the Shadow Temple. The Shadow Temple is also way too linear for me to like also. It is pretty straight-forward to complete. I am almost done with the Fire Temple, so I am going to complete Shadow next.

I always save the Spirit Temple for last. That was the best temple in the game.  :mrorange:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 24, 2014, 03:51:48 PM
Yeah, I didn't need a single walkthrough for Shadow Temple, except for the boss. I also hated how EVERY SINGLE mini room had a Redead in it. I swear, if you've never acquired Sun's Song at this point of the game, you're pretty much screwed. And the "multiple chests carrying utterly useless, unneeded things" carried over from the Well all the way to this temple. For crying out loud, give us something we actually NEED. Stop filling up your damn chests with unneeded bombs and 5 rupees. :roll: I also agree about the waaaaay overdone horror theme of the temple. It just looked so dark and gross looking. And the music to the temple just sounded like bad Halloween music.

I completely agree about Spirit Temple. It's my hands down favorite temple ever. And dividing it between kid temple and adult temple? Genius. :mrorange:
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 25, 2014, 12:52:53 AM
Well, I completed the Fire Temple. What a boring and annoying dungeon. Luckily, I did not fall over the edge when I went for the Megaton Hammer. :roll: I got lost in finding the Goron in the very first room. I do enjoy the Flare Dancer fights though only because they are silly. :P Volvagia is lame though, and his attacks are cheap. Definitely my least favorite adult dungeon in the game.

Now I get to take a trip to go back in time and face the Bottom of the Well. Hopefully I can snag the Lens of Truth quick and haul ass out. I will be very careful with the holes in the ground this time. I have not learned the Prelude of Light yet either. :P
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 25, 2014, 01:52:18 AM
You have't learned Prelude of Light yet?!?! :shock: I learned the the second I was done with Forest Temple. What exactly do you do when you finish a temple? As for me, I covered every aspect of Gerudo's Fortress, got some more heart pieces, freed those carpenters, went through the wasteland, and now I've just started Spirit Temple as a kid. I surprisingly had little trouble with the wasteland. :o The only problem I had was falling in quicksand once. Other than that, I didn't get turned around once. And I got Nayru's Love from the Great Fairy. That will probably come in handy for that mini boss once you finish the kid portion of the temple. Can't wait to finish the rest of the temple. :mrorange: Love the music, love the atmosphere, I love everything! I just do. This game definitely saved the best temple for last. :azn:
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 25, 2014, 08:33:33 PM
I mainly complete a temple by region. So when I work on the Forest Temple, I collected everything along the way associated with it. Like the two heart pieces in the Lost Woods if I haven't collected them yet as Kid Link. Same with the other regions where I collected all the stuff associated with them. So right now, I have 13 heart pieces walking into the Shadow Temple. That means I will have 15 by the time I will complete the Spirit Temple.

Will I get all 20? Probably not because there are a couple that are hard to get. The fishing one, the one where you need the Gold Scale, the Gerudo Archery, and the Dampe Race are all tough.
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 26, 2014, 01:24:06 AM
These are the following heart pieces I still need:
- Dampe's Race Game (Good luck with that :roll: )
- Frog growing game (WAY too hard. Seriously, I'm too slow with getting the melody right. I got the "Play Song of Storms for them" heart piece though)
- Golden Scale/diving at the lab (I suck at fishing games -_-)
- Get big fish in fishing pond one (See above)
- Jam session with skull kids (This one seems doable)
- Bombchu bowling alley (Another one I suck at. I can never get that last one)

And there's two more for sure I know I'm forgetting. As I have 18 hearts right now. And there's a secret heart piece you can get at Gerudo's Fortress as a kid. I think I know a way I can sneak down there in. Because I got that heart piece last playthrough I did. I also have 60 skulltulas right now. Maybe I'll do that "Hyrule Castle hole" glitch to get the remaining ones. But, we'll see about that. As the reward for getting all 100 skulltulas is *gasp* 200 rupees. I know I know, pointless, but I'll do it anyways for the sake of completion. Of course you don't have to feel obligated to do all of this stuff. Your mileage may vary. Oh yeah, and I finished Spirit Temple not long ago. Great stuff as always, and Twinrova was a bitch. Took me three fairy jars to finally beat it. Now I've got all the medallions. Yaya me.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 26, 2014, 10:56:43 PM
There is no point of getting more than 50 Skulltulas except for the sake of completion. After 50 Skulltulas, nothing is worth while for your collection. Not even the Stone of Agony, which is utterly useless. It is also useless to get the Golden Scale in the game too. But you need it for one Heart Piece, so I guess you can't avoid it either if you want all 20 pieces. Some of the upgrades are pointless in this game too like the Deku Stick and Deku Nut ones. :?

Anyways, I am half-way done with the Spirit Temple. I did the Young Link one with no problem at all. The Iron Knuckle fight is very unfair for Young Link though. His sword is very weak and the battle takes too long. Plus, the Iron Knuckle takes a lot of health if he hits you. Otherwise, the kid dungeon is short and sweet. I am about to start the adult part of the dungeon, which is my favorite part. The Twinrova battle is one of those battles where sometimes I suck and sometimes I dominate. I usually don't have problems with them though. They are my favorite boss in the game though and are hilarious when you defeat them. :lol: Nabooru is my favorite sage in the game too.  :mrorange:

Also, the jam session with the Skull Kids heart piece might not be your type of game if you don't like the "frog song" game since both games use memory. I don't mind those two games, but I forgot to get the frog song heart piece. The Bombchu Bowling Alley game is not too bad, it is a matter of saving as many Bombchus as possible for the final round. God damn Cuccos. -_- It doesn't help either that sometimes the prize is not always a Heart Piece either.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 27, 2014, 01:06:41 AM
Just beat the game not long ago. And I didn't even die once. :o I only used one fairy jar for the first part of the battle. You know, the tennis playing portion of the boss? The second part was no problem. Just roll under him, and hit the tail. I only got maybe 8 points taken off my health at most. And yes the credits were awesome. As soon as it was over, I reset the game and got some more heart pieces. That included getting the golden scale, the jam session one (I wrote the notes down, so sue me), and get this, I GOT THE FUCKING RACE ONE! Seriously, I beat that thing with literally a 1:00 left on the clock. And that was enough to get a heart piece. So whoo there. Anyways, my final death toll in the whole game was only one. That's right, my only death in the game was trying to take down Bongo Bongo. Yet I have little to no problem with the boss, go figure.

And FYI, if you don't want to get anymore upgrades, then don't. Did I not just tell you that your mileage may vary? ;) It's not like it's all mandatory anyways. Who knew? And I'm gonna play it one more time tomorrow and get all the skulltulas and heart pieces. I don't care how useless it is. I like it when everything is maxed out, and I have everything I need. And if it means wasting my time, so be it. I suck at Bombchu Blowling, I can't memorize frog melodies for shit, but I'm still gonna go for it. Anyways, I'll download Majora's Mask, and start it Tuesday. Once again, you lag behind. I love how you start all these games first, yet can't keep up with me.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 27, 2014, 10:08:15 PM
Not once did I say there was anything wrong with collecting everything in the game. You can play the game however you want. I just pointed out about how useless some of the upgrades are because items are pretty easy to come by in this game. I always collect all the upgrades anyways because I like completing Link's inventory. Just like there is no correct way of completing the dungeons in the game. You can do Fire before Forest or stick with the original method and do Forest first. Now in MM, the upgrades for Link's weapons are much more useful because you lose everything. Especially the wallet upgrades for rupees because they are a pain in the ass to collect after resetting time.

I am done with the Spirit Temple. Great dungeon overall and I like everything about. Great music, great enemies, great design, great boss, and great sage. Too bad we never find out what Nabooru's gift was for Link? I have 16 heart pieces and I am missing at least 4 from the magic bean stalks. Only because I have been lazy to collect them. :P Once I am ready, it is off to the trial rooms of Ganon's Castle.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 27, 2014, 11:02:49 PM
Well, I'm officially done with everything. All the heart pieces (including the secret Gerudo one as a kid), all the skulltulas, every last thing is maxed out. The only two I couldn't get was the bowling alley one, and the frog melody one. Otherwise, I just used cheats. Same with the skulltulas. I killed a total of 69 skulltulas before A. doing the glitch wrong at one point (I only got it down twice, too slow getting back in the portal), and B. using cheats, again. If it's any consolation, I actually DID manage to fill up my entire wallet with the 200 rupees. Believe it or not, I actually needed rupees. I only had about 300 rupees before it got filled up. So now, I'm all done. Now it's off to download Majora's Mask. I'll definitely start that by tomorrow, maybe even right now if I have the time. Just need to get back to the Project 64 site again.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 29, 2014, 02:05:34 AM
Man, life in Majora's Mask becomes MUCH easier once you both get a map to the Clock Town from (barf) Tingle, and your ocarina back. I've already gotten 6 masks, the Great Fairy and (my personal favorite) the Bunny Hood mask to name a few. Tomorrow I'll cover all of the swamp, do the deku princess menial task, and then it's off to Woodfall Temple. A temple I always quite liked in my opinion.
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 01, 2014, 02:02:58 AM
Snowhead is done, tomorrow I'll snag the gilded sword upgrade and get Epona back. And maybe work my way over to Great Bay, depending on how much time I have. I'm gonna have to re right Goht tomorrow though, so I can get my sword upgrade.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 05, 2014, 10:17:30 PM
Quadruple post. But that's not really applied here.

I'm debating on whether or not I should start Stone Tower Temple tonight. I could start it now, but no way can I get through an extremely long temple in one hour (in real time, not game time). I'll probably wait until tomorrow.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 05, 2014, 11:37:02 PM
I wish I could replay MM too, but I don't have access to a copy at the moment. :cry: I would wait to play Stone Tower Temple though when you are 100% ready to play through the whole dungeon. It is a long dungeon, but it is totally worth playing through in one sitting. I wish I could sit here and play it right now. :P

What I am going to do is replay OoT again and this time collect everything. All upgrades, all heart pieces, all spider tokens, etc. I am also going to collect as many things as possible before turning into an adult too. Last time I did this, I got 10 heart pieces altogether. Can't wait. :P
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 06, 2014, 02:23:56 AM
Wait, you don't have your copy from the last playthrough you did? Maybe there's a way you can get one if possible. And yeah, I probably won't take on Stone Tower until tomorrow. While I love this temple, and the whole Ikana region in general, this temple is excruciatingly long. And of course, every thing has to be done both frontward and backward in a three day time limit. Who knows, maybe I won't need a walkthrough to get through it. I really haven't used a walkthrough for any of the temples unless it was to locate whatever stray fairy I was missing. And if you collect all the fairies in Stone Tower Temple, you get that awesome rainbow sword, which does quadruple damage. I love that thing, even if it is just an item, and not a sword upgrade. Should've been rewarded a lot sooner though.

And you're going to 100% through OOT? Awesome, don't forget about the skulltula glitch I showed you. ;) Though that should be used as a last resort. If you're feeling extra ambitious, why don't you playthrough the game with only 3 hearts? I hear it's REALLY hard to do, and I'm not sure which "copy" you need to use to actually pull that off. And call me crazy, but I might play the Master Quest version of OOT. :P I'm still on the fence on that, but if you're doing another playthrough, maybe I'll try Master Quest, regardless of how hard it is. I'm pretty sure I can download that from the Project 64 site, where I usually get my emulators.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 07, 2014, 01:37:09 AM
I have Master Quest for my Gamecube version of OoT. It is definitely a big change from the original version of the game. The whole "mirrored" version of the overworld is kind of a mind-bender at first. The Great Deku Tree is hard as hell in that game. :shock: Also, the Shadow Temple is insanely hard too. That was even harder than Great Bay Temple. I really wish I could play MQ right now, but I only have my N64 copy. It is worth replaying for that copy though. ;) Also, I do have my MM cartridge right now. However, I am missing my expansion pack to play it for the N64. I will search religiously for it over the weekend.  :mrpurple:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 07, 2014, 01:48:54 AM
But by the time you find your expansion pak for MM, I'll probably already be done with the game. :o And yeah, I hear the Deku Tree (the tutorial levels of all things) and the likes of Water Temple and Shadow Temple are hard as hell. If you ever want to play MQ, I'll gladly play it as well. Though weren't you going to restart the regular OOT?

Oh yeah, and I beat Stone Tower Temple not long ago. It was long as hell, as predicted, (especially that bloody mirror room :x ), but I really didn't have much trouble with it. I only needed a walkthrough for the fairies I was missing, and yes I got the Fairy sword now. :mrpurple: I still had a lot of time to spare too, I was in the middle of the final day by the time I saved everything. And twinmold is a piece of cake. But man does that Giant's Mask take up a lot of your magic. Off to the Anju and Kafei quest for tomorrow, which I also know is gonna be time consuming. I know I know, pointless mask galore, but I just love the storyline behind it.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 09, 2014, 10:53:10 PM
Well, now I've beat the game! If you have Chateau Romani, a bunch of arrows, and Fierce Deity Mask, you should do fine. All three boss forms are a piece of cake.  And not even a single death either, not even to take down Gyorg back when I did Great Bay Temple. :o I mean, I had to use two fairy jars on Gyorg, but I'm honestly surprised I didn't even die from that. I really am getting better and better at these games. I finished the game with 18 hearts, all 6 bottles (one I had to get via Cheats), and all four fairy upgrades.

And just for fun, here are my death tolls on my playthroughs through OOT and MM:

OOT:
First: 47 (This was before I knew about fairy jars and health potions)
Second: 2
Third: 1

MM:
First: 3*
Second: 1
Third: None.
*Well, 4 if you count running out of time and letting the moon crash down on you. Which only happened the very first time I ever played this game.

Other than that, I think that's it for me playing anymore Zelda games for a while. Unless there some new files you want to play. Otherwise, I'll just post some comics or interesting topics/theories/whatever I can find. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 12, 2014, 09:48:50 PM
I have made some great progress before turning into Adult Link. I have 10 hearts right now, maxed out Deku Nuts (40), maxed out Deku Seeds for Slingshot (50), one Deku Stick upgrade (20), and one Bomb Bag upgrade from the Bombchu Bowling Alley. I also collected all of the Happy Masks too and have the Mask of Truth. I wanted to get the heart piece from the fishing hole, but I don't have the patience right now. So I am ready to turn into Adult Link. While as Adult Link, I want to complete one more heart before I go to the Forest Temple. I can get the following:

- One on top of Dodongo's Cavern.
- One inside the Kakariko Windmill.
- One on the Research Lab in Lake Hylia.
- One from the Kakariko Graveyard Magic Bean Plant.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 12, 2014, 09:58:59 PM
You really are doing the 100% of this game? Wow, I didn't think you were actually going to do it. I might as well start another file, assuming you're going through the regular game and not MQ. If I play this game again, I might actually try the three heart challenge. It's when you play the entire game with only three hearts. Some people say it's easy to do, but I don't see how anyone can pull it off. Also, can you play the game with no magic meter? Like.... say you went through the game with no upgrades, no heart pieces, no skulltula tokens, nothing. Is it even remotely possible to pull off the game sans magic meter? I know it seems silly to do, but I always wondered what it would be like to play a game with no upgrades whatsoever.
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 13, 2014, 11:17:37 PM
(http://www.zeldadungeon.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/OMOCAT-comic.gif)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzhmwvqUTy1rp9g8io1_400.jpg)

Don't know if I've posted these before, but these images are hilarious. Especially the first one. Stupid annoying Navi. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 14, 2014, 12:50:31 AM
Navi is ridiculously annoying. You can't spend 2 minutes in one area before she tells you where to go. :roll: It is much easier to give in and listen to her instead of seeing the annoying "Navi" sign on the screen. Although at least Navi can be useful, unlike the owl who unnecessarily talks and gives useless information. Lake Hylia is ahead? Really? As if the sign right next to you is not pointing me into that direction?

I completed the Forest Temple too. Now, I really want to try and find my Master Quest copy and play it. I loved the challenge of the dungeons in that game. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 14, 2014, 04:12:44 PM
Couldn't agree more. Can you imagine her in Ikana Canyon reminding you about the Garos every three seconds instead of Tatl? :shock: And you still didn't answer my previous question:

Quote
Also, can you play the game with no magic meter? Like.... say you went through the game with no upgrades, no heart pieces, no skulltula tokens, nothing. Is it even remotely possible to pull off the game sans magic meter? I know it seems silly to do, but I always wondered what it would be like to play a game with no upgrades whatsoever.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on February 14, 2014, 04:16:55 PM
Couldn't agree more. Can you imagine her in Ikana Canyon reminding you about the Garos every three seconds instead of Tatl? :shock: And you still didn't answer my previous question:

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Also, can you play the game with no magic meter? Like.... say you went through the game with no upgrades, no heart pieces, no skulltula tokens, nothing. Is it even remotely possible to pull off the game sans magic meter? I know it seems silly to do, but I always wondered what it would be like to play a game with no upgrades whatsoever.
I'm pretty sure some parts require magic from the light arrows, so I don't think it's possible.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 14, 2014, 04:23:09 PM
I figured as such, since you also use Fire Arrows along with Light Arrows. I suppose you could skip getting an extended magic meter though.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 14, 2014, 09:07:18 PM
And has anyone even gotten Farore's Wind to ever work? I never know how to get it to work, and I didn't even touch it once on my most recent playthrough.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 15, 2014, 12:40:40 AM
You do need the magic meter for Light Arrows and Din's Fire. Those items are required to complete certain sections of the game. It is also extremely useful for the Lens of Truth. You can complete the game without that item, but it makes life MUCH easier when you use it. Other than that, there is not much use besides the elemental arrows and magic spells.

Also, Farore's Wind actually acts like a checkpoint of some sort. In one of my most recent playthroughs, I used it in the Fire Temple. You remember the area where you can fall all the way down when trying to get the Megaton Hammer? If you use Farore's Wind, then it will create a checkpoint that Link can warp back to if he leaves the room. It is very useful if you save in a dungeon and want to return to a certain point.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 15, 2014, 12:46:04 AM
I should've known, and I just recently played through this game too. :oops: Oh well, if I play Master Quest sometime, I guess I'll keep that in mind. I heard in Master Quest, there are cows inside Jabu Jabu's Belly. And there are all these random tombs inside of both the Deku Tree and Dodongo's Cavern. Weird.... I also heard that enemies in MQ do double damage. If anyone can confirm this, you don't suck.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 15, 2014, 12:54:46 AM
I never use Farore's Wind either. Last time I played this game, I never bothered playing it. I can do most of the OoT dungeons in one sitting anyways. It is like Nayru's Love where I never bother using it when collecting. :P

But yeah, most of the dungeons are completely different in MQ. There are new enemies in each dungeon, changes to rooms and layouts, and different ways to complete the dungeon. For example, the Forest Temple holds ReDeads now while the Water Temple has Dodongos in them. And yeah, Jabu Jabu has cows that act as switches too. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 15, 2014, 01:08:05 AM
I love Nayru's Love. It's great when you don't want to take damage from a REALLY tough mini boss/enemy/whatever. :P And Dodongo's in Water Temple? WTF?! :shock: I mean, Fire Temple I would understand, but it seems so out of place in Water Temple.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 16, 2014, 11:17:49 PM
So I was looking through some of the beta pictures (and articles) of both OOT, and MM, and I found this little gem in the latter game:

http://www.zeldauniverse.net/zelda-news/majoras-mask-contains-two-hidden-unused-cutscenes/ (http://www.zeldauniverse.net/zelda-news/majoras-mask-contains-two-hidden-unused-cutscenes/)

Apparently these were cutscenes involving Link and the Great Fairy, that were not used in the final cut. One involves Link doing some exercise, where he morphs into Fierce Deity Link, and gets the enhanced health. And the other is the Great Fairy teaching Link how to spin attack. And by teach, she's physically forcing him to do the attack. Which is also accompanied with a "Do as I say" comment, according to the translated Japanese text. I may be reading too much into this, but it's so easy to take the wrong way with how both characters are "positioned" in the spin attack one. It just looks.... wrong, for lack of a better word. I mean, I knew the Great Fairy was strange, but not on that level. :shock: So if you want another reason to never set foot in another Fairy Fountain again, there you go. Just, make of this what you will.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 16, 2014, 11:47:34 PM
Wow, what were the producers thinking? The Great Fairies are already creepy to begin with, but do they need to show Link how to do a spin attack? They never did that in OoT, and those are pretty much the same Fairies. I am glad they removed that because there is already enough creepy stuff in MM  :shock:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 17, 2014, 01:06:25 AM
Damn straight, she literally looks like she is raping Link. I shit you not. :shock: I am so glad they didn't include that either. The exercising one wasn't too bad, but exercising? That's kind of easy to take the wrong way too. It looks like the Great Fairy is using him as some sort of slave or something. Plus, morphing into Fierce Deity Link just like that is kind of out of place too. Earning the mask just before the final boss makes much more sense. I was just shocked to see that to say the least. No way would something like that slide had the game been released today. Sorry in advance if I give you nightmares tonight. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 18, 2014, 12:11:59 AM
Don't worry, OoT and MM gave me nightmares ages ago. :P I am surprised that OoT got an "E - Everyone" rating when it was first released. :shock: That game did NOT deserve that ranking. I mean just look at the Shadow Temple and Bottom of the Well? Torture devices, blood everywhere, and the enemies are pretty "M" rated too. A severed hand? A dead zombie? This was a game that was for a mature audience.

If that is bad, then Majora's Mask getting an "E' rating was much worse than OoT. MM is a very dark game and has a lot of subtle hints in it. Like how you wear the faces of dead people (Zora Mask, Goron Mask, etc.) And then the whole Ikana Castle region was definitely for a mature audience. And don't forget the moon crashing ending. :shock:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 18, 2014, 01:10:52 AM
Plus, near butt naked characters like Ruto and all the Great Fairies don't help the case either. Totally agree on MM too. I swear, that has got to be THE darkest game I have ever played. I mean, the whole theme of the game revolved around death, dead souls, etc. Oh yeah, and don't forget about the Redeads (and Gibdos for that matter), humping you if you get too close to them. If the Redeads didn't creep you out as a kid, let alone today, then you are one brave SOB. :shock:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 21, 2014, 01:11:02 AM
I clearly remember my first ReDead encounter. It was the one in the unmarked grave where you can get a heart piece. I remember first going up to it because I thought it was a person you can talk to. Since it was crouched over and Hyrule had some really weird races in the first place. But when it screamed and jumped on me that is when I became traumatized. I use to always make sure I played the Sun Song if I was in the room with a ReDead when I was young. And I use to read guides to find where they were located at too. They definitely don't bother me anymore though. I actually go up to them now and slash the hell out of them. In the Bottom of the Well in Master Quest, there is a group of five of them that protect the Lens of Truth. I died a few times there I remember.  :oops:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 21, 2014, 02:02:04 AM
Yeah, I saw some image (I believe it was a GIF) of all the Redeads crowding around a single chest. I wonder if it's possible to get raped by 4 or 5 Redeads at once? And if that's so.... you better have some fairy jars and/or red potion handy. :shock:

On another note, how's your progress in OOT, TRJ? If you're still doing the 100% completion thing.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 21, 2014, 02:06:42 AM
I am glad you asked. I have 14 heart pieces and about to enter the Fire Temple. I actually beat the Water Temple this time before the Fire Temple just to switch things up. Most of the heart pieces I am missing now are from the Magic Bean Stalk. I got the really annoying ones like the bug game with the frogs, the fishing one as Young Link, and the Dampe Race. I also have all the upgrades too except for the extra quiver for the Fairy Bow. Only because I did not enter Gerudo Valley yet. Too bad most of these upgrades are useless though. 30 Deku Sticks? What a waste. I remembered to get the Deku Nut upgrade that you can permanently miss before becoming Adult Link. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 21, 2014, 02:15:22 AM
Yeah, what exactly do you do with 30 Deku Sticks? I mean, you only use them as a kid. Plus, when you're an adult, you just use fire arrows, or Din's Fire. I don't think I've ever gotten an upgrade on how many items you can carry. At least I don't remember. Though I did get an upgrade on my quiver on my most recent playthrough in MM. It's that Octorock Archery game where you're supposed to hit 50 to get a heart piece. I could only get 40, but it was enough for an upgrade to hold 40 arrows. I got it too little too late in the game, but I guess it came in handy for the final boss. I did worse in that archery game than I did in previous playthroughs. Go figure. :lol:

And I just came across a hilarious comic regarding the Bottom of the Well, and the crap that goes on in there not long ago. Where Link tells Anju "I'm not drinking your Redead piss! Do you have any idea that goes in down there?" I need to find it though. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 21, 2014, 02:30:33 AM
I hated that Octorok Archery game.  :x MM had some of the most evil games that were much worse than OoT. Honey and Darling is another one I despise because you have to win in it on all three days just to get the heart piece. I never knew how I got all the heart pieces before in MM because it is hard as hell. The Don Gero one has to be the hardest Zelda heart piece ever. :?

I am looking forward to your comic also. :lol: You can find so many OoT and MM gems.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 21, 2014, 02:37:59 AM
Seriously, some of the heart pieces in MM were absolutely retarded. How on earth are you supposed to win the Honey and Darling games ONCE, let alone all three days? Same with the Deku Playground one. Though on my most recent playthrough, I managed to collect all the rupees on the first day. But here's the catch: You have to beat the quickest time finishing the game. And since I'm such a painfully slow, uncoordinated player, I did not beat the time and my effort meant nothing. -_____- And the frog one is absurd too. Though I always get that heart piece, albeit last thing before the final boss. I get bored easily when I have time to spare, and no real sidequest or whatever to do. :P

And here's the comic. (http://joyreactor.com/post/465329)

It's hilarious, especially at the end of the comic. Zombie piss, that's brilliant. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 21, 2014, 02:47:32 AM
"You don't know half of the shit that goes on down there." :lol:

Seriously, how do any of those people not know that there water supply comes from a torture chamber with severed hands, bats, and dead mummies and zombies? And not to mention, their Graveyard is creepy as fuck. Although I always thought it would've been cool to have Kakariko Village be overrun by ReDeads, Gidbos, Floormasters, Keese, etc. when Bongo Bongo breaks out of the Well. They would leave though once Link beat the Shadow Temple. Kind of similar to the monsters in Kokori Forest.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 21, 2014, 02:54:07 AM
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs6/i/2005/099/8/1/Zelda__s_Lullaby_by_Hail_NekoYasha.png)
Zelda's Lullaby indeed.

(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs45/f/2009/166/4/6/Zelda_OoT_Comic_047_by_Dilly_Oh.jpg)
Booty dance. XD

Another "SHUT UP NAVI" comic. (http://www.zeldauniverse.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/comic21.jpg)

Sorry if the pictures are too big. And walk on eggshells and watch being molested by Redeads and Gibdos? No thank you. O_O
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 26, 2014, 08:24:25 PM
http://www.quotev.com/quiz/1484063/What-Sage-are-you-from-The-Legend-of-Zelda-Ocarina-of-Time/ (http://www.quotev.com/quiz/1484063/What-Sage-are-you-from-The-Legend-of-Zelda-Ocarina-of-Time/)

I got Zelda for a result. It seems like whenever I take this quiz, I get either Zelda or Impa as a result. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 26, 2014, 10:08:12 PM
I got Zelda too as my result. :o I actually like her, so I will take it. :P

Luckily, I didn't get Ruto, Mido, or King Zora.  :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 26, 2014, 10:13:14 PM
You realize this is JUST about the sages, right? ;) There are plenty of "Which character are you?" quizzes about Zelda, but the above quiz I posted was strictly sages only. Unless I read something wrong. But yeah, I'm glad I got Zelda as a result as well. She honestly is the perfect, and only match for Link, if we're going by relationship status. The rest of the girls are either in the friendzone, or just plain nuts. *coughRutocough*
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 01, 2014, 03:46:08 PM
So, there was this thing called "Twitch Plays Pokemon" where Twitch users control a single game of Pokemon by entering a control into the chat which gets sent to the IRC or something of the game and the game does the action as told. Hilarity ensues when you have over tens of thousands of players playing.

Now, they're doing Zelda. Currently, Link's Awakening. Whether or not the experiment will work for Zelda remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on March 01, 2014, 11:41:30 PM
Link to the new Twitch Plays please?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 02, 2014, 12:25:08 AM
Link to the new Twitch Plays please?

What that meant to be a pun? :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on March 02, 2014, 12:34:41 AM
Link to the new Twitch Plays please?

What that meant to be a pun? :P

Sure. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 02, 2014, 01:11:26 AM
Hey, it will work, right? Even though the game is named after "Zelda" instead of "Link." :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 05, 2014, 11:13:02 PM
More Navi comics:

(http://th09.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2010/232/6/5/The_Legend_of_Zelda__Navi_by_Xarity.jpg)
Who doesn't love a good pixie stick? :mrteal:

(http://th04.deviantart.net/images3/PRE/i/2004/104/e/f/Navi__s_Eulogy.jpg)
I know it's a little mean to flippantly embrace life without Navi, and to laugh at this comic. But I just couldn't help but find it hilarious. :lol:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 30, 2014, 11:05:45 PM
*Bump*

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/622/996/261.png)

Sabrina reference, which I'm surprised took THIS long for something like this to surface. :o

EDIT: For some serious resizing.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 23, 2014, 08:54:33 AM
I'm replaying Majora's Mask. The goddamn side quests. Why did they have to have so many? :roll:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 23, 2014, 03:43:11 PM
Yeah, they had way too many sidequests. Probably to make up for the lack of temples they had. I don't even use walkthroughs for either of the four temples, unless I'm looking for a stray fairy. But sidequests.... let's just say I have to follow a walktrhough practically word for word.

And PS, I was just looking through this thread just last night. What a coincidence. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 23, 2014, 04:29:13 PM
Yeah, the many sidequests is what sets MM apart from the rest of the games. It is because it has 5 dungeons in total (counting the Moon), so they had to compensate for gameplay somewhere else. I have only completed MM completely twice. I love how you have to work hard to earn most heart pieces, but some of them are too over-the-top. Like collecting the Couple's Mask aka Kafei sidequestion just to get one heart piece. :? And then the Don Gero Mask one where you have to find all the frogs. They were way too extensive for one heart piece.

God, I hate the Deku Playground one too. The is the hardest on in the game. :evil:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 23, 2014, 07:15:12 PM
I much prefer the Anju and Kafei sidequest over the Deku Playground one. And also the Don Gero frog collecting one.

Just saying.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Silver Monkey on July 24, 2014, 08:49:16 PM
(http://zeldawiki.org/images/3/37/Linkfacesofevil_cdiboxboxart_160w.jpg)
(http://zeldawiki.org/images/6/69/Zeldawandofgamelon_cdiboxboxart_160w.jpg)
(http://zeldawiki.org/images/0/0a/Zeldasadventure_cdibox.jpg)

BEST ZELDA GAMES EVER  :mrgreen:  :mryellow:  :mrgreen:  :mryellow:  :mrgreen:  :mryellow:  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 24, 2014, 11:07:20 PM
Ah, the infamous CD-I Zelda games. I have not played any of those games, but from what I hear these games are the special kind of bad. :lol: And Legends would give out CD-I as prizes too for the temple runners.  :oops:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 24, 2014, 11:08:19 PM
They even look cheap too. That's why I stick to the N64 versions of the games. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 24, 2014, 11:15:08 PM
Nothing can top the N64 games. Actually, I like all the 3D Zelda games except for Wind Waker. I hate that one.  :x

And I like the Anju and Kafei quest too. It was definitely one of the most creative sidequests in the game. It is nice to not actually take control of Link for once. And the ending to it was pretty satisfying. I felt like it was kind of long though and shouldn't take a whole 3 day cycle. But still a memorable and rewarding quest. ;)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 24, 2014, 11:21:20 PM
Yeah, and it's so easy to screw up even in the slightest. Like in the hideout place, if you take too long with the switches, the sun mask (I think that was what it was) gets sucked in and you have to start all over again. That's where I always get tricked up. And it's very frustrating starting all over too, and the waiting around at some points get boring after a while too. I also agree that it really shouldn't take a whole three day period to do. But it is worth it in the end reuniting Anju and Kafei. Very interesting sidequest and story. It's definitely rewarding, especially when done right. ;)

Also, I've never played Wind Waker before. I know the graphics look different, but I've never played it. How bad is it?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 24, 2014, 11:27:31 PM
Wind Waker is not entirely a bad game, but I just don't like it compared to the other Zelda games. It is kind of like how Ahmed Baba is among Legends fans where a lot of people hate WW or love it. But it is pretty well liked among Zelda fans. I definitely didn't like it for the graphics and the excessive water traveling. Also, Tingle was so annoying in this game. :roll: Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword were much better games. And OoT will always be my all time favorite.  :mrred:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 24, 2014, 11:43:35 PM
Heh, the Tall Turban of the series. Nice comparison. :lol:

And I can see how some people may like it, I'm sure it is fun to play. But the graphics just look so weird. And Tingle having a huge presence in the game doesn't help matters either. :shock: I've never played Twilight Princess or Skyward Sword either. Though I heard the former was very similar to OOT. Regardless, OOT is my #1 all time favorite Zelda game too. With MM as a close second. :mrpurple:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 07, 2014, 11:20:59 PM
http://danharel.github.io/2048----Zelda-Edition/ (http://danharel.github.io/2048----Zelda-Edition/)

I'm addicted to this game. And I made it all the way up to 16,000+ points. And yes it is Wind Waker themed. Check it out. ;)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 09, 2014, 01:27:48 PM
Okay, I am off of school for a couple of weeks. And I am getting my OoT urges again. I totally want to play it over the next couple of weeks again. :mrred:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 09, 2014, 03:56:51 PM
Great, good luck! :mrpurple: I'm not sure if I'm gonna play though. I don't think my current laptop can handle a Project 64 emulator. I mean, look what happened last time I played on my old laptop. A virus completed destroyed it. O_O But, I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 10, 2014, 09:50:38 PM
Have I ever shared a GIF of the Redeads humping Link? If not, here you go:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4xpguuh6U1rqcl0vo1_500.gif)

So if you want some "Nightmare Fuel," there you have it. :P
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on November 19, 2014, 03:53:56 PM
So Majora's Mask is coming out on 3DS, just like Ocarina of Time did. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 19, 2014, 09:38:24 PM
I was exciting to hear about the news for sure!  :mrpurple:

Here is what we know so far about the new version:

- Thought original was too difficult.
- They made sure to make the game easier for this remake.
- Many of the difficult things occurring throughout the day are going to be made more obvious.
- Big hint system.
- Altered a boss (likely made it easier).
- Gameplay differences for New 3DS owners.

It kind of seems like it will be a watered down version though. :-S
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on November 20, 2014, 01:04:39 AM
Is it sad that I haven't played any 3D Zelda games? For some reason, I just can't be bothered. :o

Speaking of Zelda, any Mario Kart 8 players in here enjoying the Zelda themed DLC? I know I am. :D
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on November 20, 2014, 01:32:48 AM
I was exciting to hear about the news for sure!  :mrpurple:

Here is what we know so far about the new version:

- Thought original was too difficult.
- They made sure to make the game easier for this remake.
- Many of the difficult things occurring throughout the day are going to be made more obvious.
- Big hint system.
- Altered a boss (likely made it easier).
- Gameplay differences for New 3DS owners.

It kind of seems like it will be a watered down version though. :-S
Yeah, it's about time Majora's Mask get a 3DS version. It was only a matter of time. :mrred:

As for the facts about the upcoming version:

- Agree. Sometimes the time limit can be a bit too much.
- Agree, see above point.
- Not sure what you mean by that. Examples?
- Hint system? Okay, that's watering it down a bit....
- They did? Which boss? Please tell me it's that ghastly, ungodly Gyorg. That boss is way impossible. O_O
- Haven't played many 3DS games, so no comment there.

I have a feeling it's gonna be watered down too. Not like I ever have difficulty with the game anyways.

Is it sad that I haven't played any 3D Zelda games? For some reason, I just can't be bothered. :o
You need to play them. There's only two games, so your work would be cut out for you.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 20, 2014, 01:20:36 PM
Sorry for the confusion about that list I posted earlier, but all those bullet points were some changes that the producers were making to the 3DS version of MM. The producers thought that the original game was too hard, so they are going to basically water it down for the 3DS version. Which is a load of crap because they are trying to please the casual gamers. :roll:

And PP319, you should try the 3D Zelda games one day.
Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask are the best of the best in the series.
Wind Waker was crap IMO, but other people seem to enjoy it.
Twilight Princess was solid with a good story, but it kind of felt like OoT a little too much.
Skyward Sword was good too.

You should try Ocarina of Time at least. ;)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on November 20, 2014, 04:18:39 PM
Oh. I didn't know. But yeah, making a game too easy really isn't going to do anyone any good. And the game isn't going to come out until June anyways. It will be interested to see it on 3DS mode though.

Also, what is OOT like in 3DS mode? Have you played that yet?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 20, 2014, 11:17:05 PM
OoT on 3DS is awesome. The graphics and overworld look beautiful, and there is no more pointy character models or 2D fences. Plus, areas like Market Town are now fully rendered and are not on a "fixed camera". It also comes with Master Quest too, which is a unique challenge. ;) It was definitely worth getting IMO. :mrred:
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on November 21, 2014, 01:15:28 AM
It comes with Master Quest too, a game I still haven't played? Awesome. And now I want to play the 3DS version. :lol: It really does seem awesome. Good to know the graphics have improved too. I heard they've also improved the Water Temple, by making Iron Boots an item. Instead of having to change your boots every two seconds. O_O

Also, here's another question I've been meaning to ask. To those of you who play the 3D Zelda games, what do you name your characters? Most people may name their character "Link," which to me just sounds a little boring. But what nicknames do you give your characters? Just wondering. ;)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 21, 2014, 04:19:16 PM
On all of my first playthroughs for each game, I always use my name for Link. The only exception is when I first played Skyward Sword, I actually used Link's name from the start. And on my subsequent playthroughs, I always name him Link just because I am use too. In Twilight Princess, you can also name the horse that Link rides on. I named the horse "Epona" even though she is not meant to be her.

Other than that, I have used expletive names for Link in OoT and MM just for the laughs. My favorite time was when I named him "Nabooru". Only because I wanted to see her say "Nabooru? What kind of name is that?!" when you first meet her. :lol:
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on November 21, 2014, 04:31:31 PM
Oh yeah, you can even name your character expletives. Come to think of it, someone did that once and I posted it in this thread. They literally named their character "FUCK." If I ever get to playing the games again, I might actually do that. :lol: Also, regarding naming Epona in Twilight Princess, someone on another forum named Epona "my cunt." No really, that's what her name was. And whenever Epona's name was mentioned in Twilight Princess, the dialogue would go like this:

"I washed my cunt for you."
"You're riding my cunt too hard."

I know it's stupid to name your character that, but it's just hilarious. :lol: Me? I have the habit of using girly names like "Diva" for Link's name. Though on my last playthrough, I named him "Bananas." I guess it has a better ring to it than clearly unfitting girly names.

EDIT: To include person who named their character FUCK. (http://theoande.blogspot.com/2011/06/legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-funny.html)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: The Silver Monkey on February 06, 2015, 04:30:14 PM
Zelda, the... live action TV show?!?!

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“The Legend of Zelda,” one of the most popular videogame series of all time, is in the works as a television show at Netflix.

The video streaming service is in the early stages of developing a live action series based on “Zelda,” about an ordinary boy named Link who must rescue a princess named Zelda and save a fantasy world called Hyrule, said a person familiar with the matter. As it seeks writers to work on the show, Netflix is describing it as “Game of Thrones” for a family audience, this person said.

The “Zelda” games have traditionally included swords and sorcery, like “Game of Thrones” or “Lord of the Rings,” but typically with a more light-hearted, kid-friendly tone.

Netflix is said to be working closely with Nintendo, the Japanese game developer that has made about 20 “The Legend of Zelda” games since the original, which was released in the U.S. in 1987.

Nintendo is very protective of its intellectual property and has allowed few adaptations over the years. An animated “Legend of Zelda” series ran for just one season in 1989. A 1993 movie based on Nintendo’s “Super Mario Bros.” was an infamous bomb.

As it is still seeking a writer to work on the series, Netflix has a long road to travel before a “Legend of Zelda” series actually becomes a reality. It’s also possible that Netflix or Nintendo will kill the project before it gets off the ground.

A Netflix spokeswoman declined to comment. A Nintendo spokeswoman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/02/06/legend-of-zelda-netflix-series/ (http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/02/06/legend-of-zelda-netflix-series/)

Well, this certainly was unexpected. Definitely interested to see how this ends up.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 06, 2015, 08:57:57 PM
Yeah, I heard about that. I don't know how that's gonna go honestly. Truth be told, I really don't have high hopes for it.
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 08, 2015, 11:50:37 PM
You know, Legend of Zelda would make an interesting plot for a TV show. Only on paper though. They have tried both cartoons and live action shows for other video games in the past (Resident Evil, Mario), and they weren't received too well. But Netflix is actually pretty respectable when it comes to their own TV shows. Hemlock Grove and Orange is the New Black are two successful Netflix original shows. I would give it a try, but I don't have high hope though. Zelda is just better as a videogame. I mean I don't even want to see how they will make the Zoras or Gorons. :shock:
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 09, 2015, 01:08:20 AM
I'd give it a try too. But the main problem is butchering it, which is the main thing I'm afraid of. Oh well, we're just gonna have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 16, 2015, 02:24:21 AM
So has anyone played the newly released Majora's Mask 3DS? I haven't, because I don't own a 3DS. But for anyone that has, what's it like?
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 16, 2015, 02:30:03 PM
Not yet, but I do plan on getting it before spring time. I do like the updated look for the game though.   :grin: Judging from what I read though, they made the game "easier" for the casual fans. Mostly, they changed the way the timer works to make it easier. Which I don't agree with them doing because the clock is not that hard to manage if you know what you are doing. On the other hand though, it looks like they made the boss fights more challenging too. I love MM though and I will definitely check out the 3DS one. OoT3DS was a solid game, and I expect this one to be too. ;)
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda Discussion Topic
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 16, 2015, 05:09:46 PM
Yeah, I heard there was a lot of hand holding and the game was made a little too easy for the casual fans. I heard they changed the timer too, which seems like a pointless thing to do. I mean, the timer is the most important part of the game after all. And good for them for updating the graphics too, just like they did for OOT 3D. It definitely makes the game look a lot less outdated. Despite the casualness in the game, I'm sure it will be a solid game. And just as popular as OOT 3D was. ;)