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Title: Ways to Improve Losing Temple Runs
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on August 12, 2020, 09:34:42 AM

Since I have a new temple run improvement game (http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=3075.0), I was wondering how losing temple runs in the original Legends of the Hidden Temple can be improved. I'll list every losing temple run in the order which production was completed.

Episode	Temple Guard Locations	Half Pendant Location
Wild Bill Hickok and the Dead Man's Hand	Heart Room, Swamp, Cave of Sighs	Not applicable
John Henry's Lost Hammer	Heart Room, Throne Room, Cave of Sighs	Not applicable
The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan	Heart Room, Mine Shaft, Throne Room	Shrine of the Silver Monkey
Elizabeth the First's Golden Ship	Heart Room, Golden Idols, Cave of Sighs	Heart Room
The Keys to the Alhambra	Three Gargoyles, Tomb of the Ancient Kings, Throne Room	Not applicable
The Pendant of Kamehameha	Heart Room, Dungeon, Throne Room	Not applicable
The Lost Logbooks of Magellan	Heart Room, Pirate's Cove, Harmonic Convergence	Heart Room
Henry the Eighth's Great Seal	Heart Room, Tomb of the Ancient Kings, Cave of Sighs	Dungeon
The Lucky Pot-Bellied Pig of Amelia Earhart	Three Gargoyles, Heart Room, Swamp	Dungeon
The Golden Cup of Belshazzar	Treasure Room, Pirate's Cove, Cave of Sighs	Heart Room
Ponce de León and the Lost Fountain of Youth	Observatory, Harmonic Convergence, Cave of Sighs	Not applicable
The Treasure Map of Jean Lafitte	Heart Room, Tomb of the Ancient Kings, Harmonic Convergence	Heart Room (found by Aaron Lane)
Blackbeard's Treasure Map	Tomb of the Ancient Kings, Room of Harmonic Convergence, Cave of Sighs	Not applicable
The Oracle Bowl of Delphi	Three Gargoyles, Treasure Room, Swamp	Not applicable
The Paintbrush of Leonardo da Vinci	Observatory, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, Swamp	Not applicable
The Golden Chains of Zenobia	Treasure Room, Torch Room, Cave of Sighs	Not applicable
The Stolen Arm of Shiva	Observatory, Tomb of the Ancient Kings, Cave of Sighs	Shrine of the Silver Monkey (acquired by Evan Ziller)
The Stone Marker of Leif Erikson	Observatory, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, Bamboo Forest	Treasure Room
The Helmet of Joan of Arc	Three Gargoyles, Treasure Room, Harmonic Convergence	Not applicable
The Medal of Sir Edmund Hillary	Three Gargoyles, Heart Room, Shrine of the Silver Monkey	Not applicable
The Golden Jaguar of Atahualpa	Three Gargoyles, Heart Room, Shrine of the Silver Monkey	Not applicable
The Silver Saddle Horn of Hannibal	Treasure Room, Holes of Python, Well	Heart Room
Alexander and the Gordian Knot	Treasure Room, Tomb of the Ancient Kings, Throne Room	Shrine of the Silver Monkey (acquired by Retina)
King Tut's Cobra Staff	Heart Room, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, Cave of Sighs	Treasure Room (found by Eusenia)
The Dragon Lady and the Blue Pearl	Treasure Room, Tomb of the Ancient Kings, Cave of Sighs	Not applicable
The Codebook of Mata Hari	Royal Gongs, Treasure Room, Holes of Python	Shrine of the Silver Monkey (found by Gareth Kiser)
Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat	Heart Room, Treasure Room, Throne Room	Throne Room (acquired by Chris)
The Treasure of Anne Bonny	Royal Gongs, Fallen Columns, Throne Room	Throne Room (acquired by Ron)
The Golden Stallion of Ali Baba	Heart Room, Dark Forest, Throne Room	Not applicable
The Silver Cannonball of Grandy Nanny	King's Storeroom, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, Ledges	Not applicable
The Walking Stick of Harriet Tubman	Crypt, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, Throne Room	Swamp
The Lost Love Letter of Captain John Smith	Medusa's Lair, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, Throne Room	King's Storeroom
The Bone Necklace of the Blackfeet Chief	Crypt, Dark Forest, Swamp	Not applicable
The Mush Pot Hat of Johnny Appleseed	Crypt, Medusa's Lair, King's Storeroom	Not applicable
The Cracked Crown of the Spanish King	Dark Forest, Throne Room, Ledges	Swamp
The Imperial Purple Robe of Empress Theodora	Shrine of the Silver Monkey, Dark Forest, Ledges	Not applicable
The Stone Head of the Evil King	Medusa's Lair, King's Storeroom, Throne Room	Not applicable
The Electrified Key of Benjamin Franklin	Crypt, Medusa's Lair, King's Storeroom	Not applicable
The Missing Eye of David	Medusa's Lair, Swamp, Laser Light Room	Medusa's Lair
The Ivory Elephant of Scheherazade	King's Storeroom, Dark Forest, Ledges	Not applicable
The Sacred Ring of Sultan Suleiman	Observatory, Medusa's Lair, Ledges	Troubled Bridge
The Plumed Headdress of Cosa-Rara	King's Storeroom, Lightning Room, Laser Light Room	Rock Quarry (acquired by Jessica)
The Jeweled Necklace of Montezuma	Crypt, Medusa's Lair, Dark Forest	Not applicable
The Lost Lion Tail of Little John	Dark Forest, Swamp, Ledges	Swamp (acquired by Claude)
The Shriveled Hand of Efoua	Observatory, Medusa's Lair, Dark Forest	Not applicable
The Mask of the Man in the Iron Mask	Crypt, Medusa's Lair, Swamp	Not applicable
The Crown of Queen Nzinga	Dark Forest, Swamp, Laser Light Room	Swamp
The Two-Cornered Hat of Napoleon	Crypt, Swamp, Laser Light Room	Rock Quarry (acquired by Carly)
The Silk Sash of Múlàn	Crypt, Observatory, Laser Light Room	Not applicable
The Golden Goblet of Attila the Hun	Medusa's Lair, Secret Password, Ledges	Pit
The Leopard Skin Cloak of Annie Oakley	King's Storeroom, Laser Light Room, Ledges	Not applicable
The Secret Battle Plan of Nathan Hale	Crypt, Observatory, King's Storeroom	Pit (pointed out by James)
The Golden Pepperoni of Catherine de' Medici	Crypt, King's Storeroom, Laser Light Room	Pit (acquired by Aqila)
The Golden Earring of Henry Morgan	Mine Shaft, Laser Light Room, Ledges	Not applicable
The Missing Weather Maps of Charles Lindbergh	King's Storeroom, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, Ledges	Not applicable
The Broken Wing of Icarus	Mandarin Hand, Laser Light Room, Ledges	Not applicable
The Bonnet of Dolley Madison	Mandarin Hand, King's Storeroom, Ledges	Not applicable
The Priceless Portrait of the Polynesian Girl	Crypt, Observatory, Mandarin Hand	Pit (acquired by Kristen)
The Bifocal Monocle of One-Eyed Jack	King's Storeroom, Ancient Warriors, Quicksand Bog	Tomb of the Headless Kings (acquired by Thomas)
The Comet-Embroidered Battle Flag of William the Conqueror	Crypt, Ancient Warriors, Tomb of the Headless Kings	Not applicable
The War Fan of the Forty-Seven Ronin	Crypt, Secret Password, Dark Forest	Not applicable
The Lion-Slashed Jacket of Sacagawea	King's Storeroom, Quicksand Bog, Tomb of the Headless Kings	Chamber of the Sacred Markers (acquired by Mike)
The Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean	King's Storeroom, Chamber of the Sacred Markers, Secret Password	Not applicable
The Snow Cone of Mount Kilimanjaro	Quicksand Bog, Dark Forest, Tomb of the Headless Kings	Jester's Court
The Upside-Down Compass of Henry Hudson	King's Storeroom, Chamber of the Sacred Markers, Ancient Warriors	Not applicable
The Bent Shaving Pan of Jedediah Smith	Ancient Warriors, Tomb of the Headless Kings, Ledges	Jester's Court
The Marble Armrest of Xerxes	Shrine of the Silver Monkey, Quicksand Bog, Tomb of the Headless Kings	Jester's Court
The Smashed Printing Plate of Frederick Douglass	Crypt, Ancient Warriors, Dark Forest	Not applicable
The Mystical Spellbook of the Imperial Wizard	Chamber of the Sacred Markers, Ancient Warriors, Quicksand Bog	Not applicable
The Useless Map of the Chibcha Chieftain	Crypt, King's Storeroom, Tomb of the Headless Kings	Not applicable
The Golden Spider Web of Robert the Bruce	King's Storeroom, Ancient Warriors, Quicksand Bog	Pit of the Pendulum
The Discarded Seal of Ivan the Terrible	Chamber of the Sacred Markers, Ancient Warriors, Shrine of the Silver Monkey	Not applicable
The Mysterious Manuscript of Mary Shelley	Chamber of the Sacred Markers, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, Secret Password	Not applicable
The Dried Apple Half of William Tell	Dark Forest, Tomb of the Headless Kings, Ledges	Not applicable
The Missing Portrait of Hans Holbein	Crypt, Ancient Warriors, Secret Password	Not applicable
The Royal Torque of Queen Boadicea	Crypt, Chamber of the Sacred Markers, Shrine of the Silver Monkey	Not applicable
The Enormous Feather of the Mê Linh	Dark Forest, Tomb of the Headless Kings, Ledges	Not applicable
The Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu	King's Storeroom, Secret Password, Quicksand Bog	Not applicable
The Broken Trident of Poseidon	King's Storeroom, Chamber of the Sacred Markers, Ledges	Not applicable
The Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis the First	Chamber of the Sacred Markers, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, Secret Password	Not applicable
The Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King	Ancient Warriors, Secret Password, Tomb of the Headless Kings	Chamber of the Sacred Markers
The Lost Taj Mahal Turban of Aurangzeb	Chamber of the Sacred Markers, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, Quicksand Bog	Pit of the Pendulum
The Melted Wax Head of Madame Tussaud	Chamber of the Sacred Markers, Ancient Warriors, Secret Password	King's Storeroom
The Pearl Necklace of Gwalior	Chamber of the Sacred Markers, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, Ledges	Not applicable
The Bullet-Riddled Handbag of Belle Boyd	Quicksand Bog, Dark Forest, Tomb of the Headless Kings	Not applicable
The Lost Whale Bone of Pytheas	Shrine of the Silver Monkey, Tomb of the Headless Kings, Ledges	Not applicable
The Dried Ear of Corn of Sojourner Truth	Chamber of the Sacred Markers, Ancient Warriors, Dark Forest	Not applicable
The Good Luck Watch of Empress Eugenie	King's Storeroom, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, Ledges	Not applicable

Title: Re: Ways to Improve Losing Temple Runs
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 12, 2020, 07:56:04 PM

Since I watched this temple run recently, I would switch the player order in "Lost Hammer". This temple run would've had a chance at a solo chance if the team started in the Room of Three Gargoyles and entered the Throne Room from the Pit. I would send Nick into the temple first and have him start in the Gargoyle Room and enter the Throne Room from Wall Climb for a solo shot at a temple win. I know I use to give Nick crap in the past for wasting time in the temple, but after rewatching this run he did a pretty good job with what little time Kim left him in the temple. Sure he wasted time trying to climb into the Golden Idols, but it wasn't a bad idea for him to try a short cut. And he still managed to finish 2 rooms away from the artifact. Long story short, keep Kim away from the temple in this episode.  :roll:

Title: Re: Ways to Improve Losing Temple Runs
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on August 12, 2020, 09:12:33 PM

Quote from: The Red Jaguars on August 12, 2020, 07:56:04 PM

Since I watched this temple run recently, I would switch the player order in "Lost Hammer". This temple run would've had a chance at a solo chance if the team started in the Room of Three Gargoyles and entered the Throne Room from the Pit. I would send Nick into the temple first and have him start in the Gargoyle Room and enter the Throne Room from Wall Climb for a solo shot at a temple win. I know I use to give Nick crap in the past for wasting time in the temple, but after rewatching this run he did a pretty good job with what little time Kim left him in the temple. Sure he wasted time trying to climb into the Golden Idols, but it wasn't a bad idea for him to try a short cut. And he still managed to finish 2 rooms away from the artifact. Long story short, keep Kim away from the temple in this episode.  :roll:

You mean "Billy"? Silver Snake Nick Borey was in Henry the Eighth's Great Seal.

Title: Re: Ways to Improve Losing Temple Runs
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on August 12, 2020, 09:40:37 PM

Also, I'll list each losing episode by its end result.

Failed Escape
The Medal of Sir Edmund Hillary
The Golden Jaguar of Atahualpa
King Tut's Cobra Staff
Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat
The Treasure of Anne Bonny
The Bone Necklace of the Blackfeet Chief
The Mush Pot Hat of Johnny Appleseed
The Two-Cornered Hat of Napoleon
The Golden Earring of Henry Morgan
The Broken Wing of Icarus
The Bonnet of Dolley Madison
The Priceless Portrait of the Polynesian Girl
The Comet-Embroidered Battle Flag of William the Conqueror
The Royal Torque of Queen Boadicea
The Enormous Feather of the Mê Linh
The Broken Trident of Poseidon
The Good Luck Watch of Empress Eugenie

Failed Acquisition (Made it to the artifact's room)
The Dragon Lady and the Blue Pearl
The Imperial Purple Robe of Empress Theodora
The Golden Pepperoni of Catherine de' Medici
The Missing Weather Maps of Charles Lindbergh
The Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu
The Pearl Necklace of Gwalior
The Dried Ear of Corn of Sojourner Truth

Failed Acquisition (Did not make it to the artifact's room)
Wild Bill Hickok and the Dead Man's Hand
John Henry's Lost Hammer
The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan
The Keys to the Alhambra
The Lucky Pot-Bellied Pig of Amelia Earhart
The Golden Cup of Belshazzar
Ponce de León and the Lost Fountain of Youth
The Treasure Map of Jean Lafitte
Blackbeard's Treasure Map
The Oracle Bowl of Delphi
The Paintbrush of Leonardo da Vinci
The Golden Chains of Zenobia
The Stolen Arm of Shiva
The Stone Marker of Leif Erikson
The Helmet of Joan of Arc
The Silver Saddle Horn of Hannibal
Alexander and the Gordian Knot
The Codebook of Mata Hari
The Golden Stallion of Ali Baba
The Silver Cannonball of Grandy Nanny
The Cracked Crown of the Spanish King
The Stone Head of the Evil King
The Electrified Key of Benjamin Franklin
The Ivory Elephant of Scheherazade
The Plumed Headdress of Cosa-Rara
The Jeweled Necklace of Montezuma
The Lost Lion Tail of Little John
The Shriveled Hand of Efoua
The Mask of the Man in the Iron Mask
The Silk Sash of Múlàn
The Golden Goblet of Attila the Hun
The Leopard Skin Cloak of Annie Oakley
The Bifocal Monocle of One-Eyed Jack
The War Fan of the Forty-Seven Ronin
The Lion-Slashed Jacket of Sacagawea
The Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean
The Snow Cone of Mount Kilimanjaro
The Upside-Down Compass of Henry Hudson
The Bent Shaving Pan of Jedediah Smith
The Marble Armrest of Xerxes
The Smashed Printing Plate of Frederick Douglass
The Mystical Spellbook of the Imperial Wizard
The Discarded Seal of Ivan the Terrible
The Mysterious Manuscript of Mary Shelley
The Dried Apple Half of William Tell
The Missing Portrait of Hans Holbein
The Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis the First
The Melted Wax Head of Madame Tussaud
The Bullet-Riddled Handbag of Belle Boyd
The Lost Whale Bone of Pytheas

Triple Seizure
Elizabeth the First's Golden Ship
The Pendant of Kamehameha
The Lost Logbooks of Magellan
Henry the Eighth's Great Seal
The Walking Stick of Harriet Tubman
The Lost Love Letter of Captain John Smith
The Missing Eye of David
The Sacred Ring of Sultan Suleiman
The Crown of Queen Nzinga
The Secret Battle Plan of Nathan Hale
The Useless Map of the Chibcha Chieftain
The Golden Spider Web of Robert the Bruce
The Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King
The Lost Taj Mahal Turban of Aurangzeb

Title: Re: Ways to Improve Losing Temple Runs
Post by: GreenMonkeys#1 on August 13, 2020, 01:19:29 AM

Sir Edmund Hillary and Anne Bonny: Tara & Ron avoid the center shaft and these becomes easy wins.


Atahualpa: Chris avoids Heart Room and this would be solo.



Pecos Bill: Chris takes the top floor instead of the bottom.


Benjamin Franklin: Peter avoids Medusa’s Lair and goes into the King’s Storeroom, and this would’ve been solo.


Montezuma: Had Kevin gone straight into the Ledges and avoided Medusa’s Lair, this would’ve been solo and Kelly never drops the Monkey.


Iron Mask: Danielle avoids Medusa’s Lair and this is solo.


Icarus: Let’s see this run was really screwed up. Should not have gone to the Observatory since it was backtracking, Avoid Mandarin Hand on the way out, and not stall in the Observatory on the way out. Remember this was a one second loss.


Me Linh: Switch the runners


Poseidon: GET THE TRIDENT, need I say more? Also exit route sucked.


That’s what I got so far. I need to rewatch some of these.

Title: Re: Ways to Improve Losing Temple Runs
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 13, 2020, 10:11:40 AM

For Anne Bonny, I would have Ron go into the temple first and get removed early in the Throne Room or Fallen Columns. And Fred would follow-up as a second runner and hopefully take the Troubled Bridge out of the temple. This was a very easy layout because Ron grabbed the artifact with 53 seconds despite being slow and clueless.

For Lost Lariat, I would probably have Colleen wait a couple of extra seconds after completing the Observatory objective so she could take the Treasure Room shortcut. If she went straight into the Treasure Room, it would've been a solo run and maybe have a chance to beat Shaka Zulu's time?

It's amazing that neither Jason or Kimberly won in the Icarus and Poseidon runs. They were both doing a pretty okay job before reaching their artifacts. Both contestants reached their artifacts with plenty of time, but both screwed around and lost near the entrance room of the temple.

I'm not sure sending Karisa into the temple first for the Enormous Feather run would change the success of it. She was way too slow and stupid. I can't imagine her trying to complete the bottom floor rooms as a frontrunner.  :shock: Fortunately, David was fast but I don't think Karisa would've left him enough time. The only way I could see this run being successful is David avoiding the temple spirit in the Dark Forest similar to Joel in the Enormous Iron Nose Ring run. This team was doom from the start thanks to Karisa.  :roll:

I agree with your other suggestions.  ;)

Title: Re: Ways to Improve Losing Temple Runs
Post by: The Silver Monkey on August 16, 2020, 07:37:44 PM

Some ideas from my view:

Cricket Cage: Take the videotape, douse it in gasoline, and light it on fire.

Kamehameha: A simple one. If Robbie goes straight to the Observatory from the Pit (the door opened when Tina spun the sundial), he has himself a solo win.

Henry VIII: Shay starting in the Gargoyles instead of the Cave (provided the team wouldn't be forced into the Cave from there) would at the very least have prevented a triple seizure. Winning could still be tricky given that Shay would've been taken out one room away under this scenario.

Lucky Pig: Reverse order of players (duh :roll: ) and start in the Cave of Sighs instead of the Gargoyle Room. Other than the Room of Harmonic Convergence, where the Pig was, the Cave of Sighs and Heart Room were the only rooms that Kristen didn't enter. The Gargoyle Room had a guard, so I highly doubt the Cave of Sighs would have had one, too. So unless the team would have have been forced into the Gargoyles from the Cave, this would make it a solo win.

Blackbeard: Reverse order of players (duh :roll: ). There's no way James would've been as incompetent as Sabrina. Right?

Lost Fountain of Youth: Same as Lucky Pig, though the start point change is for a different reason. The placement of the guards basically forced them to encounter all three to have a prayer at winning.


Secret Battle Plan: Inform the judges that Olmec said nothing about the pieces in the "Attack Philadelphia" temple game having to be oriented the right way, thereby preventing the Silver Snakes from being screwed out of the full pair of pendants (and in turn preventing a triple capture, though Cristina finding the plainly visible half pendant, which James had earlier signaled to her, would've taken care of that, too).

Lost Lion Tail: Keep the Silver Snakes from knocking over their sign in the third temple game, thereby preventing the Purple Parrots from making it to the temple in the first place. :roll:

Dolley Madison: Another simple one. If Matt starts in the Crypt instead of the Ledges, he has himself a solo win.


Marble Armrest: Make the writers put some effort into the tiebreaker question, so the least deserving team doesn't make it to the temple on the easiest tiebreaker of all time.  :roll:

Title: Re: Ways to Improve Losing Temple Runs
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on August 17, 2020, 07:53:33 AM

Quote from: The Silver Monkey on August 16, 2020, 07:37:44 PM

Cricket Cage: Take the videotape, douse it in gasoline, and light it on fire.

Well I have a better answer (http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=3075.msg201107#msg201107).

Title: Re: Ways to Improve Losing Temple Runs
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on August 17, 2020, 07:55:50 AM

Quote from: The Silver Monkey on August 16, 2020, 07:37:44 PM

Henry VIII: Shay starting in the Gargoyles instead of the Cave (provided the team wouldn't be forced into the Cave from there) would at the very least have prevented a triple seizure. Winning could still be tricky given that Shay would've been taken out one room away under this scenario.

Also, the producers could have picked a better spot in the Dungeon for other half of Nick Borey's pendant.

Title: Re: Ways to Improve Losing Temple Runs
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 17, 2020, 06:52:17 PM

I love the list you posted, TSM. :lol: I agree with everything you said in your post too. For temple runs like Lost Lion Tail, Golden Cricket Cage, and Xerxes those temple teams were so bad that they were doomed to fail no matter how much you try to correct them. In those episodes, the losing temple team should've gone to the temple.

Word on the Nathan Hale suggestion. I definitely think the Silver Snakes got screwed in the "Attack Philadelphia" game. No where in the rules did it mention that the players had to have to word in exact orientation. Although Christina still was a big failure for not finding the most obvious half-pendant that both Kirk and James pointed out. I think James should've gone to the temple second though. He would've found the half-pendant AND was faster than Christina. Even if Christina found the half-pendant, they would've still lost due to her being so slow.

I agree that Lucky Pig would've been a solo run if the team started in the Cave of Sighs and took Kristen's exact path. This layout was pretty long, but a competent player should've been able to grab the artifact. After all, Kristen came up one room short despite being slow and clueless. Scott should've gone in first and started in the Cave of Sighs for a solo run.

Here are a few more:

Gordian Knot - Send Retina into the temple first and have her get removed in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings. She really wasn't a bad player aside from taking the Well elevator. If she went into the temple first, she should've been removed with about 2 minutes left. Tim was definitely faster than Retina and hopefully he tries to take the Shrine shortcut.

Joan of Arc - Same strategy as Gordian Knot. Send Mandy into the Room of Three Gargoyles and have her removed in the Room of Harmonic Convergence. Speedy Eddy would follow-up on her path and maybe grab the artifact.

Harriet Tubman - Send Ryann into the temple first. She could actually start in the Crypt if she wanted to and get removed early in the temple. And Chris would've hopefully found the half-pendant and score a win. This didn't look like a hard temple layout considering the Dark Forest door was already open for them. The other solution would be for Ryann to actually follow her partner's path.  :afro:

Egyptian King - Have Josh enter into the temple first and have him take the King's Storeroom from the Pit. Josh probably wouldn't have dropped his Pendant of Life AND would've completed his rooms faster. After getting removed in the Room of the Ancient Warriors. Kerry should have enough time to grab the artifact and possibly win.

Title: Re: Ways to Improve Losing Temple Runs
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on August 17, 2020, 07:18:08 PM

Quote from: The Red Jaguars on August 17, 2020, 06:52:17 PM

Egyptian King - Have Josh enter into the temple first and have him take the King's Storeroom from the Pit. Josh probably wouldn't have dropped his Pendant of Life AND would've completed his rooms faster. After getting removed in the Room of the Ancient Warriors. Kerry should have enough time to grab the artifact and possibly win.

You mean "Maggie"? Kerry was the female Orange Iguana in The Cracked Crown of the Spanish King. Also, imaginary contestants need to be used in the game I made. The following are what I have so far.

Wild Bill Hickok and the Dead Man's Hand: Jason Shaughnessy and Paige Benbow
John Henry's Lost Hammer: Faith Godfrey and Howard Croft
The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan: Anthony Guinness and Francesca Serpico

TRJ, do you want to go next in my game?

Title: Re: Ways to Improve Losing Temple Runs
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on June 23, 2021, 04:55:39 PM

Here are the solutions for the runs where the second prize was awarded.

The Medal of Sir Edmund Hillary: Tara should have crossed the Troubled Bridge.
The Golden Jaguar of Atahualpa: Chris should have gone straight into the Holes of Python from the Throne Room.
King Tut’s Cobra Staff: Eusenia should have gone straight into the Treasure Room from the Heart Room.
Pecos Bill’s Lost Lariat: Chris should have busted through the Stone Wall right after grabbing the lariat.
The Treasure of Anne Bonny: Same solution for the Medal of Sir Edmund Hillary.
The Bone Necklace of the Blackfeet Chief: I await your thoughts.
The Mush Pot Hat of Johnny Appleseed: I await your thoughts.
The Two-Cornered Hat of Napoleon: I await your thoughts.
The Golden Earring of Henry Morgan: I await your thoughts.
The Broken Wing of Icarus: Jason should have done the following:
1. Stayed out of the Observatory.
2. Swung across the Pit like the Jason in the episode before his did.
The Bonnet of Dolley Madison: Matt should have avoided the Ledges.
The Priceless Portrait of the Polynesian Girl: I await your thoughts.
The Comet-Embroidered Battle Flag of William the Conqueror: I await your thoughts.
The War Fan of the Forty-Seven Ronin: The Pit-Tomb door should not have crashed shut.
The Royal Torque of Queen Boadicea: I await your thoughts.
The Enormous Feather of the Mê Linh: David should have simply busted through the Stone Wall from the Dark Forest.
The Broken Trident of Poseidon: Kimberly should have held on to the trident and taken a better escape route.
The Good Luck Watch of Empress Eugenie: I await your thoughts.

Title: Re: Ways to Improve Losing Temple Runs
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on July 19, 2021, 04:40:45 AM

Quote from: The Red Jaguars on August 13, 2020, 10:11:40 AM

I'm not sure sending Karisa into the temple first for the Enormous Feather run would change the success of it. She was way too slow and stupid. I can't imagine her trying to complete the bottom floor rooms as a frontrunner.  :shock: Fortunately, David was fast but I don't think Karisa would've left him enough time. The only way I could see this run being successful is David avoiding the temple spirit in the Dark Forest similar to Joel in the Enormous Iron Nose Ring run. This team was doom from the start thanks to Karisa.  :roll:

So the Enormous Feather temple run would have been a win if David had simply busted through the Stone Wall and entered the Shrine of the Silver Monkey from the Quicksand Bog. Would that have really worked? David was clearly the opposite of Karisa in terms of performance, right? Two pairs on the other reptilian team were obviously doomed to fail with no answer to what they could have done better in the temple (in the Golden Cricket Cage and Snow Cone episodes, both of which, had two of the original show’s weakest temple runs).