You're forgetting one thing PP4L. Sabrina actually did enter the Room of the Three Gargoyles.
I think that the final guard was in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings. You know how the Season 1 producers love putting guards 1 room away from the artifact (or maybe they would've been forced up to the Shrine?).
I definitely don't think the last guard was in the Cave of Sighs. We should've been able to see the half-pendant if that was the case, since that would've meant 3 guards into 4 rooms of the temple, similar to "The Treasure of Anne Bonny".
I always thought the third guard in the "Oracle Bowl of Delphi" run was in the Treasure Room. Since there were a lot of Season 1 runs where there was a temple guard placed one room away from the artifact.
The "Leonardo Da Vinci" run is hard to determine where the last temple guard is due to the very reason you mentioned: the team did not make it far into the temple to tell where the other one could possibly be. One thing to note is that the Room of the Three Gargoyles DID unlock the door to the Observatory. However, Chris did not try all three tongues. I say the last guard in this run will be in the Shrine due to the fact that both "The Trojan Horseshoe" and "King Tut's Cobra Staff" were also Tomb of the Ancient King runs with guards in the Shrine. I don't think they would've used the Dungeon or Pirate's Cove either.
I believe that there should almost always be one path in the temple where all three temple guards will be encountered. There shouldn't be two deviating paths where the team only has a chance to really encounter 2/3 guards. It wouldn't make sense for the guard to be in the Observatory because it would be a useless detour for the team. The Room of Three Gargoyles makes more sense because that involves a path where all three guards have a chance of actually being encountered.
And slightly off topic from "Lost Hammer", but I am pretty sure the Jean Lafitte team had at least one path where all three temple guards could be encountered. If the the team started in the Cave of Sighs and continued on the bottom floor, they would've probably encountered all three guards: Harmonic Convergence, Heart Room, and wherever the last guard was. ;)
I always thought the third guard in "Cricket Cage" was in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings. For once again, the "one room away" trick.
Here are one room away guards from the top of my head:
Great Seal
Magellan
Amelia Earhart
Buddha
Gordian Knot
Sir Edmund Hillary (close enough anyways)
Atahualpa
Mata Hari
Blue Pearl
Also, Ponce de Leon had a one room away guard. It probably happened more times in Season 1, but the contestants never encountered those guards.
I don't think the Tomb of the Ancient Kings was a dead end because that would've been pretty much been a two room dead end. I don't remember any other temple run where two rooms were on a dead end path.
The Heart Room and Observatory were definitely not dead ends in "Zenobia". The team was suppose to take the Observatory and Heart Room enroute to the artifact. Justin was too stupid to realize that he could go down from the Heart Room, the intended path during that temple run. So that is the reason why the team really lost.
The same thing for the "Silver Saddle Horn" run. The Heart Room and Observatory were an alternate path from the Gargoyle Room that the team would take if they started at the top of the temple. The Treasure Room was the only real dead end room in both runs since it did not add any additional progress for either team and was not an alternate path. Although I am not sure why the treasure chest didn't work when it should in this sitation.
I guess you can call the "Ali Baba" central shaft detour a dead end. I am not sure that once again the producers were trying to make an alternate path out of it if the team chose to start at the top of the central shaft. This path reminds me more of "The Silk Sash of Mulan" where it would've been easier just to go through the bottom floor.
Yeah, I think one of the guards was in the Gargoyle Room. The reason the door is slightly cracked because it might've been hard to open that door in Season 1. Plus, the other temple runs that day (minus "Magellan") all had temple guards in the entrance room.
It is kind of hard to pinpoint where that last guard is though. But I have to say that the Shrine does seem like a logical spot. It fits the "one room away" guard criteria for Season One pretty much. Plus, it would be silly to put it in one of the other central shaft rooms when the Observatory already held one. I mean if Mitchell started in the Room of Harmonic Convergence, would they force him up the central shaft and then make him switch floors again? So maybe in a way taking the Treasure chest was more beneficial to Mitchell because I do think the last guard would've been in the Shrine.
Why do the guards look different in both pictures? It looks like the Cobra Staff guard has some sort of sash around him while the Blue Pearl guard looks like any ordinary temple guard. :?
If that is indeed a Temple Guard in the Observatory in. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:, then all the Temple Guards would be in the Central Shaft
If that is indeed a Temple Guard in the Observatory in. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:, then all the Temple Guards would be in the Central Shaft
That is a very good observation. Considering how the final days' layouts were in each season, it wouldn't be surprising. It seemed that the final days' runs were gimmicky, either in their paths, temple guard placements, or both. There weren't that many rooms unlocked during the "Silk Ladder" run, so there were fewer possible rooms for the last guard to have been stationed. As gimmicky as it was to have the whole central shaft stocked with guards, that is the only possible scenario for this run, and the photographic evidence further supports the reasoning.
I don't recall many details from the "Butch Cassidy" run, but didn't Paula try the King's Storeroom door from the Heart Room and it was locked? The temple layout would be a little bit unusual if the guard was in the King's Storeroom and one was in the Dark Forest. Unless the King's Storeroom was meant to be a deadend. But I agree, the temple guard door being open in the King's Storeroom is a little unusual. I say that the other guard was in the Crypt because at least one temple guard had to be avoidable.'
I always thought the last guard in Dr. Livingstone was in the Heart Room. For a possible dead end, ala "The Golden Stallion of Ali Baba," another run that also had temple guards in the Throne Room and Dark Forest.
Also, Medusa's Lair makes sense also for the "Johnny Appleseed" guard. I am not sure what this whole "triangle to nowhere" was, but a guard being in Medusa's Lair would've been similar to the temple guard layout in the "Benjamin Franklin" run where if the team skipped Medusa's Lair, then they would've avoided a temple guard.
I have to agree with TPP, I don't think that one of the guards were in the Crypt. I don't think they used the "double entrance guard" trick until Season 3. And even then, I only think that it was used in the "Sforza" episode. I just don't see how having the guard in the Crypt would work out. I guess it would've forced Ty down into the Ledges, but I don't recall ever seeing a S2 temple run with a gimmicky layout like that.
I think the last guard was in the Swamp. The last two guards being in the Swamp and Throne Room makes sense since they would be "direct path" guards. Since Ty took the high road, he then avoided the two guards that would've doomed this team if they stayed low. I am not sure if the Swamp would've lead up to the King's Storeroom. The Swamp never really unlocked upwards when it appeared in S1 or S2. It wasn't until "Mulan" when the doors leading up worked.
I disagree, the temple guards had to be in the Crypt and Medusa's Lair. To me, it makes no sense to put it in the Dark Forest, despite the temple spirit from the previous run. I just never ever agreed with the temple guard in the Dark Forest theory. If you remember in "The Mask of the Man in the Iron Mask," the artifact was in the Observatory, with Medusa's Lair and Swamp temple guards. It was probably gonna be the same here.
I don't see how the Enormous Feather/Ivan the Terrible are that comparable. They were two both King's Storeroom temple runs, and that was about it. Karisa and David's temple guard placement were different because they had one pendant. So the producers had to give them at least one option to where they could avoid a temple guard. Travis and Elisa had two pendants, so the Room of the Ancient Warriors guard didn't matter much either way even if it was avoidable. If Karisa and David had the same temple guard placement, it would've been more unfair to them. If anything, the Enormous Feather/Jedediah Smith temple runs were more comparable.
But back to "Ahmed Baba". I rewatched the temple run again and it looks like Medusa's Lair did not open from the Laser Light Room. Shane even tried climbing up into Medusa's Lair, but the door was closed. I think the last guard was indeed in the Dark Forest. It's unclear what tree held the temple spirit since the stage left tree wasn't protecting the breakable wall. But then again, it didn't protect the wall in Joel's run either, so it might've been there.
I don't think the last guard was in Medusa's Lair then even if Shane did enter the room. It seemed like a useless detour to me like the Observatory door opening in the "Henry Morgan" run even though Shane could've entered the Room of the Mandarin Hand directly. Either way, Shane got pretty lucky with his temple guard placement even though he took the longest way possible.
I don't consider "Freydis" and "Buddha" to be that lucky of a win when the teams did take shortcuts in those runs. As a result, they avoided a potential guard one way or another that might've changed the outcome of their run depending on how fast their partners were. Then again, both Tarrah and Jennifer made the mistake of detouring into the room to the left of the Shrine. That could've been detrimental to them as well. But Shane got lucky either way that his run didn't end similar to "Annie Oakley" and "Lost Fountain of Youth" where the teams in those runs took the longest way possible and got caught one room away.
The Observatory did not open to the Troubled Bridge in the Cosa Rara run actually. When Jessica is in the Rock Quarry, you can still see the Observatory door closed from the Troubled Bridge. So if the team did enter the Crypt, it looks like they would've been forced down into the Ledges all along.
Up next is "Lucky Medallion of Atocha."
Encountered Guards: Ledges
Number of Unencountered Guards: 2
Rooms not Entered: Crypt, Throne Room, Swamp, Dark Forest
Notes: Every room was brought up as a possible room, for one reason or another. Some people suggested the Crypt because the layout seemed as though the producers may have put a guard in both entrance rooms. Other people mentioned the Throne Room/Swamp because they didn't think the Crypt held a guard and the Dark Forest did not open from the Shrine. Others said there was a possibility for there to have been a second path that led across the bottom floor of the temple, and they placed the guards in the Throne Room and Dark Forest because there didn't appear to be a guard in the Swamp when Ty exited the temple.
My Thoughts: To be completely honest, this run puzzles me. I don't think there would have been a completely divergent second path to the artifact, but I am also hesitant to believe the producers placed guards in both entrance rooms.
-- I suppose they may have put a guard in both the Crypt and Ledges because this was a 1 pendant run. It seemed that the 1 pendant run temple guard placements were more gimmicky and more spaced out, since it had to be possible to avoid at least one guard entirely.
-- Like the prior comments, I don't think the Swamp had a guard because there didn't appear to be one when Ty exited the temple. Also, I doubt the Dark Forest would have held a guard because the Shrine didn't not lead to that room, and I don't think there was a completely alternate path along the bottom floor of the temple. The only way for a guard to have been stationed in the Dark Forest, then, would have been if the Throne Room opened to Medusa's Lair and the Swamp, and to have a two-room-long dead end in the Swamp and Dark Forest. I don't think that would have happened.
-- For these reasons, the only rooms left for there to have been a guard would have been the Crypt and Throne Room. I suppose that the placement of the guards would have made sense: Crypt, Ledges, Throne Room. In the other episodes from that day and the day prior, all of the guards were clustered together, near the outside of the temple. My suggested placements would have followed suit.
Also, I'm still confused with the Atocha run. I still don't see how there could be two guards in both entrance rooms with a layout like that. It just seems impossible for that to be a possibility. I still say the final two guards were in the Throne Room and Swamp.
I don't think the last guard in Atocha was in the Crypt either. We don't really know what doors would've opened on the bottom floor of the temple, but I am thinking the last guard was in the Swamp and Throne Room too. Since Ty and Jennifer had one pendant, it seemed unfair to put a guard in both entrance rooms. That is way too gimmicky of a temple layout to put a guard in both entrance rooms. The only temple run I ever see having a guard in both entrance rooms was in the Sforza run. And it makes sense too for that temple run because it was on the very last production day of the season. So the entire production day was filled with gimmicky layouts. But I definitely don't think the Atocha run had a guard in both rooms.
Another thing a couple of the S2L5 1.5 pendant temple runs had in common were that the temple guards were more stationed near the beginning of the temple. Both the "Nathan Hale" and "Polynesian Girl" run had temple guards in one entrance room and the next two entered rooms after the Pit. Jason and Elizabeth already encountered a temple guard in the Laser Light Room and Room of the Mandarin Hand. So if this temple run were to follow the pattern of the two runs listed above, then the last guard would be in the Ledges. Plus, the half-pendant was on the Laser Light Room actuator. So usually that means there was at least one temple guard encountered before the half-pendant location.
I think you're right about the Ledges and Laser Light Room. That's what I was thinking and the picture really helps the reasoning. However, I wouldn't be surprised if one of the guards was hidden in the Mine Shaft. Do you think the producers would've put a guard in the other Dark Forest tree?
I always thought the temple guards were in the Ledges and the Mine Shaft. I know the Laser Light room was supposedly open, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a temple placed in the Mine Shaft, ala "Henry Morgan."
I always thought the temple guards were in the Ledges and the Mine Shaft. I know the Laser Light room was supposedly open, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a temple placed in the Mine Shaft, ala "Henry Morgan."
Which run are you referring to? I'm guessing it's "Broken Wing of Icarus," but I'd like to be sure we're talking about the same episode. ;)
Yeah, I meant Icarus.
It sounds like everyone is in consensus that the final guard for "Dolley Madison" was in the Mandarin Hand.
- I have a hypothesis that in all of the episodes in which the Ledges were dark at the start of the run, there was a guard stationed there. Since the guard would have easily been seen by the contestants at the temple gate, they had to dim the lights in the Ledges in order to hide the guard better. NOTE: This hypothesis is not a contrapositive. There may have also been episodes where a guard was stationed in the Ledges with the lights on.
- I have a hypothesis that in all of the episodes in which the Ledges were dark at the start of the run, there was a guard stationed there. Since the guard would have easily been seen by the contestants at the temple gate, they had to dim the lights in the Ledges in order to hide the guard better. NOTE: This hypothesis is not a contrapositive. There may have also been episodes where a guard was stationed in the Ledges with the lights on.
The temple guard in the Ledges for "The Dried Apple Half of William Tell" was hiding with the lights on I think.
Oh, the lights turned on once a player entered the temple. Correct?
I always thought the Dark Forest was where the third guard was in the "War Fan" run. It could have served as a dead end guard, to punish the team for taking a wrong turn.
I don't think that it would be considered that far of a reach to consider the Dark Forest a deadend in the "War Fan" run. Both "Bifocal Monocle" and "War Fan" runs were produced on the same day. The producers have a tendency to make the temple layouts on the same day to be quite similar in a way. Just look how the Ivan the Terrible/William Tell/Mary Shelley/Robert the Bruce day panned out with almost all of them having brutal layouts. Or how the last production day of S3 having temple layouts that were favorable towards the contestants.
Just look how the Ivan the Terrible/William Tell/Mary Shelley/Robert the Bruce day panned out with almost all of them having brutal layouts.Robert the Bruce wasn't on the Discarded Seal filming day. Hans Holbein was.
The Green Monkeys in "Sacagawea" were already forced up the central shaft enroute to the artifact. It would be pretty brutal to force them down into the Quicksand Bog. Plus, all three guards would've been pretty much forced if that was the case. But then again, that pretty much happened in the "Lost Taj Mahal Turban" temple run where all three guards were forced and the team had 1.5 pendants. I do think the last guard was in the Ledges too.
As for Kirk and the whole one room away thing, I only take what Kirk says with a grain of salt. He was the same one who told Elise that she could just slide down from the Secret Password in the "War Fan" run. :roll:
Now that I think about it now, I definitely think the last guard in "Kilimanjaro" would've been in the King's Storeroom or Chamber of the Secret Password. The producers would not just open up two additional rooms without there being a temple guard in one of them. It would be basically be like the "Useless Map" run but only this time the team is forced down the central shaft and not up it. In the Useless Map run, the temple guards were in the Tomb of the Headless Kings and King's Storeroom. In the Snow Cone run, the central shaft would basicaly be the opposite with the King's Storeroom detouring the team downwards.
Honestly, that box pile in the Quicksand Bog looks big enough to put a temple guard in it. After noticing it a long time ago, I always thought the last guard was in there.
Yeah, the third temple guard had to be in the King's Storeroom, since that door also opened from the Pit. Also, aren't half pendants supposed to be room away from the "third" temple guard? The half pendant that's clearly in the Jester's Court would imply that.
Kind of off-topic, but I think Jared should've entered the Chamber and meet his first temple guard there and then get taken out in the Room of the Ancient Warrior. That would probably give Katie more than enough time to reach the Mystical Spellbook and maybe bring it out. She probably wouldn't have wasted time in the Dark Forest like Jared did.
Here's another thing to consider. What if the King's Storeroom was the only door to open from the Chamber? That would've made this run almost impossible to win.
As for Smashed Printing Plate, I always thought the third guard was in the Crypt. Since Jason went down into the Ledges instead of the Crypt, it's not impossible that the third guard to be in there. It could have been like "Chandragupta," where Andrea entered the Ledges and not the Crypt. Though I can see how the King's Storeroom would work. Just a thought.
The last guard in Dried Apple Half was probably in the Dark Forest. Since the layout was similar to Bullet Riddled Handbag, only without the Ledges.
I have a feeling they would have been given access to the Quicksand Bog/Shrine passage, but not the Forest/Shrine passage. Also in "Bullet Riddled Handbag," the first two temple guards were in the Tomb and Dark Forest, with a third guard in the Quicksand Bog. In "Dried Apple Half," we saw guards in the Ledges and Tomb, but not consecutively. With the third guard in the Dark Forest, it would have had nearly the same temple guard placement (and layout for that matter). Only in "Bullet Riddled Handbag," the third temple guard would be moved all the way back to the Quicksand Bog, instead of the Ledges. That's my take on it at least.
I'm not sure if it was the Ledges, the room was pretty well lit to me. I always thought it could have been in the Room of the Secret Password. For the "taking the long way" reason you stated. That or punish the team for taking one wrong turn. Though if the third guard were in the Ledges, it could have been another "Sultan Suleiman" scenario, where going into the Ledges would ruin the teams chance at winning.
The only time the producers seemed to put a guard in the Room of the Secret Password would be when they wanted to force the team into that room. And most of the time, that was from the Shrine entrance.
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If that were the case, this could have been a solo victory if David had just avoided the Dark Forest trees.I'm not sure if it was the Ledges, the room was pretty well lit to me. I always thought it could have been in the Room of the Secret Password. For the "taking the long way" reason you stated. That or punish the team for taking one wrong turn. Though if the third guard were in the Ledges, it could have been another "Sultan Suleiman" scenario, where going into the Ledges would ruin the teams chance at winning.
Not only would the Ledges guard have been avoidable, it also seemed as though the Dark Forest guard could have been avoided if David went directly to plowing through the stone wall into the Quicksand Bog. The temple spirit's arms were down, and we saw that the stone wall broke down to the Quicksand Bog. Even though Karisa did not try to find the key in the other tree, my guess is that there would not have been a key available to the team.
The only time the producers seemed to put a guard in the Room of the Secret Password would be when they wanted to force the team into that room. And most of the time, that was from the Shrine entrance.
That is a very good observation about the Secret Password Guards, TRJ. I hadn't noticed that, but it is definitely true. The encountered Secret Password guards were seen in "Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean," "War Fan of the Forty-Seven Ronin," "Missing Portrait of Hans Holbein," "Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu," and "Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King." Every single one of those five runs featured the teams running in the counterclockwise path, meaning they had to enter the Secret Password from the Shrine rather than from the Quicksand Bog.
They uploaded now.It wouldn't have really been overkill because it's not like Karisa and David were forced into that room. If the room was entered, then it would've been Karisa's own stupidity.
I agree that the last guard was in the Ledges. Having the guard in the Secret Password seems unnecessary to me. The layout was already long enough, no need to make it overkill.
The only time the producers seemed to put a guard in the Room of the Secret Password would be when they wanted to force the team into that room. And most of the time, that was from the Shrine entrance.
That is a very good observation about the Secret Password Guards, TRJ. I hadn't noticed that, but it is definitely true. The encountered Secret Password guards were seen in "Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean," "War Fan of the Forty-Seven Ronin," "Missing Portrait of Hans Holbein," "Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu," and "Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King." Every single one of those five runs featured the teams running in the counterclockwise path, meaning they had to enter the Secret Password from the Shrine rather than from the Quicksand Bog.
It makes me wonder if the last guard in the "Mary Shelley" run was in the Room of the Secret Password? That would've made it similar to the Egpytian King and Judge Roy Bean temple run layout where the team was forced into the Room of the Secret Password from the Shrine. And judging from the other layouts that day (Ivan the Terrible, William Tell, and Hans Holbein), I doubt that Kate and Larry would be simply allowed into the Dark Forest from the Shrine.
I always thought the guards were in the Room of the Ancient Warriors, King's Storeroom (ala "Bifocal Monocle), and the other guard in the Dark Forest. It's also possible the Tomb/Chamber door could have opened, making for a dead end "loop" possibility.
It's funny how Kimberly took the most direct path to the artifact and didn't encounter a single temple guard. I say that one of the temple guards was indeed in the Dark Forest because it would be similar to the "Bandit Queen" and "Egyptian Queen" runs where there was a guard in the Dark Forest in both runs. But it gets tricky from there though. What if the team chose to go up the central shaft? Would there be an alternate path to the artifact? Or would it be like "Dead Man's Hand" and "Ali Baba" where traveling up the central shaft would've been a useless detour?
None of the upper two doors from the Wall Climb opened into the Chamber/King's Storeroom. Is it possible that the team could travel up the central shaft, enter the Room of the Ancient Warriors, and then enter the Shrine from there? If so, that would make this temple run similar to the Sforza win. This is a pretty quirky temple layout though. :!:
It's funny how Kimberly took the most direct path to the artifact and didn't encounter a single temple guard. I say that one of the temple guards was indeed in the Dark Forest because it would be similar to the "Bandit Queen" and "Egyptian Queen" runs where there was a guard in the Dark Forest in both runs. But it gets tricky from there though. What if the team chose to go up the central shaft? Would there be an alternate path to the artifact? Or would it be like "Dead Man's Hand" and "Ali Baba" where traveling up the central shaft would've been a useless detour?
None of the upper two doors from the Wall Climb opened into the Chamber/King's Storeroom. Is it possible that the team could travel up the central shaft, enter the Room of the Ancient Warriors, and then enter the Shrine from there? If so, that would make this temple run similar to the Sforza win. This is a pretty quirky temple layout though. :!:
I don't know about the Secret Password. This path was exactly like "The Pearl Necklace of Gwalior," both layout and temple guard wise. The only difference is the Gwalior team actually made it to the Quicksand Bog, despite not reaching the necklace. Also in that run, there was no temple guard in the Room of the Secret Password. It could very well have been the Dark Forest, as a dead end. Especially if the Ledges was well lit and did not feature a temple guard.
I still think the third guard was in the Ledges, ala Pirate Captain. But good point on the Room of the Secret Password potentially holding the final guard. Also, I never thought of the editing when time ran out before. I know that even after time ran out, Jennifer still entered the Room of the Secret Password and kept on going. Maybe she did run into a temple guard with like 5-10 seconds left on the clock, but figured since time as up anyways, they'd just count it as a regular loss. And edit it as such. Though the timer still ticked away at a normal pace, edit or not.
Well, I don't have any real proof that the timer kept going normally. But I'm pretty sure it did, from what I remember about the run. But even then, the third guard still could've been in the Ledges. Like it was (possibly) in the Pirate Captain run.I still think the third guard was in the Ledges, ala Pirate Captain. But good point on the Room of the Secret Password potentially holding the final guard. Also, I never thought of the editing when time ran out before. I know that even after time ran out, Jennifer still entered the Room of the Secret Password and kept on going. Maybe she did run into a temple guard with like 5-10 seconds left on the clock, but figured since time as up anyways, they'd just count it as a regular loss. And edit it as such. Though the timer still ticked away at a normal pace, edit or not.
I didn't check to see if the timer in the "Melted Head" run stayed in real time, but it's good to know that it was at a normal pace. Even with that information, it still seems odd to me how the ending of the run and editing of the ending played out.
- On an unrelated note, both Pytheas and Belle Boyd finished the temple games with a 2-1.5 score. :oAnd Gwalior.
If the last temple guard in the Pytheas run was in the Dark Forest tree, would it be in the left or right side tree? Because in the "Apanuugpak" temple run, Amanda encountered her temple spirit in the tree close to the breakable wall. But the temple spirit didn't have his limb blocking the wall in that run. So could the temple spirit be in the same tree in Pytheas? I never really considered the Dark Forest as a possibility, but it makes sense now since neither Damian or Brittany tried either tree.
I agree, I am not entirely convinced that the last guard in Mary Shelley was in the Room of the Ancient Warriors. I think that the headdress was just out of alignment. The last guard in that run had to be in either the Ledges, Secret Password, or Quicksand Bog. I wouldn't be surprised if Kate and Larry were forced into the Room of the Secret Password either. Especially considering how tough all of the paths were that day. :o I am going to say that the last guard was in one of those two rooms. The Chamber guard was avoidable in that run, and I don't think that the producers would allow a solo run on that day. So I am going to guess Larry would've bene forced into the Secret Password and meet a guard there.
With the impossible layouts the Manuscript day had, I doubt they would've recorded a solo victory. But weren't the Ledges pitch black in that run? Which pretty much indicates a guard is in there. There was certainly a guard in there in the Dried Apple Half run, filmed after Manuscript.
I agree, I am not entirely convinced that the last guard in Mary Shelley was in the Room of the Ancient Warriors. I think that the headdress was just out of alignment. The last guard in that run had to be in either the Ledges, Secret Password, or Quicksand Bog. I wouldn't be surprised if Kate and Larry were forced into the Room of the Secret Password either. Especially considering how tough all of the paths were that day. :o I am going to say that the last guard was in one of those two rooms. The Chamber guard was avoidable in that run, and I don't think that the producers would allow a solo run on that day. So I am going to guess Larry would've bene forced into the Secret Password and meet a guard there.
If you rewatch the run, you'll see that when Kate first enters the Ancient Warriors, the middle headdress is aligned appropriately. It is not until she tries to get inside that is swings. The only time a headdress is "unlocked" to swivel is when there is a guard placed there. Can you think of any other instance where a headdress was unaligned or rotated/swiveled without there being a guard behind it? The only other time I can recall a headdress "prematurely swiveling" was in the Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King run. When Josh first got into the middle armor, it rotated slightly and the temple guard grabbed him before it even had a chance to realign. My belief is that the temple guard grabbed him early in order to avoid the same event that occurred in the Mysterious Manuscript of Mary Shelley, with the guard coming out late in the Shrine.
I agree, I am not entirely convinced that the last guard in Mary Shelley was in the Room of the Ancient Warriors. I think that the headdress was just out of alignment. The last guard in that run had to be in either the Ledges, Secret Password, or Quicksand Bog. I wouldn't be surprised if Kate and Larry were forced into the Room of the Secret Password either. Especially considering how tough all of the paths were that day. :o I am going to say that the last guard was in one of those two rooms. The Chamber guard was avoidable in that run, and I don't think that the producers would allow a solo run on that day. So I am going to guess Larry would've bene forced into the Secret Password and meet a guard there.
If you rewatch the run, you'll see that when Kate first enters the Ancient Warriors, the middle headdress is aligned appropriately. It is not until she tries to get inside that is swings. The only time a headdress is "unlocked" to swivel is when there is a guard placed there. Can you think of any other instance where a headdress was unaligned or rotated/swiveled without there being a guard behind it? The only other time I can recall a headdress "prematurely swiveling" was in the Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King run. When Josh first got into the middle armor, it rotated slightly and the temple guard grabbed him before it even had a chance to realign. My belief is that the temple guard grabbed him early in order to avoid the same event that occurred in the Mysterious Manuscript of Mary Shelley, with the guard coming out late in the Shrine.
Wasn't the same headdress out of alignment on the last production day of the show? I remember someone posted pics of the Sforza and Catherine the Great episode where you can see the middle headdress out of alignment before the temple run. I am not arguing about the theory that the temple guard was delayed, but I always felt that the headdress was not "locked" into place in the Mysterious Manuscript run. Its a possibility that there should've been a guard there, but I am just not convinced. I mean at the end of the Ivan the Terrible run, you can see one of the headdresses completely turned around.
| Room | Gongs | Pit | Observatory | Heart | Treasure | Shrine | Pirate's Cove | Dungeon | Tomb | Swamp | Throne | Cave of Sighs |
| Guards Encountered | 5 | 0 | 6 | 17 | 11 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 7 | 14 | 11 |
| Times Room Entered | 22 | 40 | 20 | 28 | 28 | 24 | 14 | 17 | 17 | 18 | 30 | 32 |
| Frequency of Encounter (Times Room Entered) | 23% | 0% | 30% | 61% | 39% | 25% | 7% | 6% | 29% | 39% | 47% | 34% |
| Frequency of Encounter (Over Season) | 13% | 0% | 15% | 43% | 28% | 15% | 3% | 3% | 13% | 18% | 35% | 28% |
| Room | Crypt | Pit | Observatory | Medusa | Storeroom | Shrine | Viper's Nest | Mineshaft | Dark Forest | Swamp | Throne | Ledges |
| Guards Encountered | 9 | 0 | 5 | 14 | 12 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 10* | 7 | 18 | 8 |
| Times Room Entered | 25 | 40 | 18 | 19 | 24 | 28 | 11 | 16 | 24 | 27 | 29 | 26 |
| Frequency of Encounter (Times Room Entered) | 36% | 0% | 28% | 74% | 50% | 18% | 0% | 6% | 42% | 26% | 62% | 31% |
| Frequency of Encounter (Over Season) | 23% | 0% | 13% | 35% | 30% | 13% | 0% | 3% | 25% | 18% | 45% | 20% |
| Room | Crypt | Pit | Storeroom | Chamber | Warriors | Shrine | Password | Quicksand | Dark Forest | Jesters | Tomb | Ledges |
| Guards Encountered | 8 | 0 | 8 | 12 | 14** | 9 | 5 | 6 | 7*** | 0 | 17 | 1 |
| Times Room Entered | 38 | 40 | 22 | 21 | 28 | 28 | 14 | 18 | 22 | 18 | 26 | 8 |
| Frequency of Encounter (Times Room Entered) | 21% | 0% | 36% | 57% | 50% | 32% | 36% | 33% | 32% | 0% | 65% | 13% |
| Frequency of Encounter (Over Season) | 20% | 0% | 20% | 30% | 35% | 23% | 13% | 15% | 18% | 0% | 43% | 3% |