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Title: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 08, 2013, 02:54:03 PM
I am surprised that we never tried this out before at all. Anyways, I want to try and make a comprehensive tier list that involves all of the female temple runners that entered Olmec's Temple. The tier system is pretty much split up into five categories, and out of these five categories, we will try and fit every female contestant into one. Here is how the tiers will pan out:

Best of the Best (Tier#1): This tier involves female players whose temple performance was pivotal to their team's performance in the temple. They contributed the most and had a major impact on the outcome of their run. Their was hardly in holes or flaws in their performance.

Great, but Flawed (Tier #2): This tier will include the female players who had a significant impact in the temple run and had a positive effect on their team. However, their performance might've been flawed and might've had a slight negative effect on the final outcome of their temple runs.

Average (Tier #3): This tier will feature the female players who just didn't stick out as doing anything important. Their temple performance really didn't contribute much to the outcome nor was it detrimental to it either.

Mediocre (Tier #4): This tier will feature the female players that did more harm than good to their respective temple runs. While they were detrimental to their teams, they still had some redeeming value.

Lost Cause (Tier #5): These female players were a huge detrimental factor for their temple runs. Their performance has no redeeming value and it would've been better if they never entered the temple at all.

I already placed some female players into the tiers below, but haven't covered every single player because I want your input on where you think some of the players should be placed at. So in this whole topic, discuss where you think every female player should be. I encourage you to not do all female players at once since that would be too overwhelming and it is easier to discuss them in pieces.

CURRENT TIER:

Best of the Best (Tier #1)
Missy (The Lucky Pillow of Annie Taylor)
Jessica (The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain)
Jennifer (John Sutter and the Map to the Lost Gold Mine)
Kristin (The Jewel-Encrusted Egg of Catherine the Great)
Tiffani (The Much-Heralded Helmet of Sir Gawain)
Yakerra (The Ivory Hunting Horn of Roland)
Tarrah (The Milk Bucket of Freydis)
Olivia-Emma (The Applewood Amulet of Emiliano Zapata)
Andrea (The Lion-Headed Bracelet of Chandragupta)
Elisa (The Discarded Seal of Ivan the Terrible)
Leah (The Star of Sultan Saladin)
Katie (The Mystical Spellbook of the Imperial Wizard)

Great, but Flawed (Tier #2)
Tara (The Medal of Sir Edmund Hillary)
Colleen (Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat)
Jennifer (The Dragon Lady and the Blue Pearl)
Kristen (The Priceless Portrait of the Polynesian Girl)
Jennifer (The Belly Button of Buddha)
Leah (The Bullet-Riddled Handbag of Belle Boyd)
Ashley (The Golden Earring of Henry Morgan)
Chandra (The Leopard-Skin Cloak of Annie Oakley)
Carly (The Two-Cornered Hat of Napoleon)
Elizabeth (The Levitating Dog Leash of Nostradamus)
Brandy (The Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu)
Erica (Robin Hood and Marian's Ladder)
Angela (The Mush Pot Hat of Johnny Appleseed)
Lacey (The Jeweled Scabbard of Sforza)
Tracy (The Golden Jaguar of Atahualpa)
Randy (The Metal Beard of the Egyptian Queen)

Average (Tier #3)
Becca (The Helmet of Genghis Khan)
Candace (Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress)
Kelly (The Snakeskin Boots of Billy the Kid)
Lucretia (The Trojan Horseshoe)
Amanda (The Mussel Shell Armor of Apanuugpak)
Catherine (The Golden Cup of Belshazzar)
Eusinia (King Tut's Cobra Staff)
Ashlie (The Bonnet of Dolly Madison)
Lauren (The Lion-Slashed Jacket of Sacagawea)
Sherra (The Upside-Down Compass of Henry Hudson)
Jenelle (The Shriveled Hand of Efoua)
Katie (The Paintbrush of Leonardo Da Vinci)
Heather (The Stone Head of the Evil King)
Olivia (The Comet-Embroidered Battle Flag of William the Conqueror)
Paula (The Silver Horseshoe of Butch Cassidy)
Leah (The Bone Necklace of the Blackfeet Chief)
Tabitha (The Diary of Dr. Livingstone)
Christine (The Golden Spider Web of Robert the Bruce)
Rachel (The Missing Portrait of Hans Holbein)
Brittany (The Lost Whale Bone of Pytheas)
Jennifer (The Melted Head of Madame Tussaud)
Tracy (The Snake Bracelet of Cleopatra)

Mediocre (Tier #4)
Terry Kay (The Treasure Map of Jean Lafitte)
Janeen (The Good-Luck Watch of Empress Eugenie)
Miriam (The Secret Map of the Bandit Queen)
Aqila (The Golden Pepperoni of Catherine de' Medici)
Kelly (The Jeweled Necklace of Montezuma)
Jessica (The Lost Logbooks of Magellan)
Mandy (The Helmet of Joan of Arc)
Kerry (The Cracked Crown of the Spanish King)
Amber (The Silver Cannonball of Granny Nanny)
Lissy (The Royal Torque of Queen Boadicea)
Jessica (The Plumed Headdress of Cosa Rara)
Gracelyn (The Sacred Ring of Sultan Suleiman)
Kate (The Mysterious Manuscript of Mary Shelley)
Whitney (The Lost Love Letter of Captain John Smith)
Irish (The Bent Shaving Pan of Jedediah Smith)

Lost Cause (Tier #5)
Sabrina (Blackbeard's Treasure Map)
Tia (The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan)
Lisa (The Keys to the Alhambra)
Kim (John Henry's Lost Hammer)
Kim (The Missing Weather Maps of Charles Lindbergh)
Lauren (The Dried Apple Half of William Tell)
Kimberly (The Broken Trident of Poseidon)
Dana (The Smashed Printing Plate of Frederick Douglass)
Veronica (The Bifocal Monocle of One-Eyed Jack)
Kristen (The Lucky Pig of Amelia Earhart)
Karisa (The Enormous Feather of the Me Linh)
Heather (The Snow Cone of Mount Kilimanjaro)
Jackie (The Oracle Bowl of Delphi)
Kelli (The Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean)
Ryann (The Walking Stick of Harriet Tubman)
Renee (The Crown of Queen Nzinga)
Cristina (The Secret Battle Plan of Nathan Hale)
Jessica Hill (Ponce de Leon and the Lost Fountain of Youth)
Rinette (The Codebook of Mata Hari)
Noelle (The Marble Armrest of Xerxes)

No Current Position:
Sarah Beckmeyer (Wild Bill Hickok and the Dead Man's Hand)
Gabby (Elizabeth the First's Golden Ship)
Tina (The Pendant of Kamehameha)
Shay (Henry the Eighth's Great Seal)
Jennifer (The Golden Chains of Zenobia)
Christina (The Stolen Arm of Shiva)
Keeli (The Stone Marker of Leif Erikson)
Retina (Alexander and the Gordian Knot)
Vicki (The Silver Saddle Horn of Hannibal)
Shannon (The Collar of Davy Crockett)
Katherine "Fred" (The Treasure of Anne Bonny)
Kendra (The Golden Stallion of Ali Baba)
Michelle (The Electrified Key of Benjamin Franklin)
Ashley (The Imperial Purple Robe of Empress Theodora)
Monica (The Ivory Elephant of Scheherazade)
Marie (The Lost Lion Tail of Little John)
Danielle (The Mask of the Man in the Iron Mask)
Emily (The Missing Eye of David)
Rachelle "Shelly" (The Golden Goblet of Attila the Hun)
Jessie (The Silk Sash of Mulan)
Tess (The Dried Ear of Corn of Sojourner Truth)
Katie (The Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis the First)
Chrystine (The Lost Taj Mahal Turban of Aurangzeb)
Maggie (The Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King)
Dawn (The Pearl Necklace of Gwalior)
Annie (The Ruby Earring of bin-Zibab)
Hallie (The Useless Map of the Chibcha Chieftain)
Elise (The War Fan of the 47 Ronin)
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Silver Monkey on March 08, 2013, 02:55:39 PM
Veronica, Dana, Lauren, and all three Kims should go under Lost Cause, IMO.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 08, 2013, 03:01:39 PM
Agreed, I don't know how I missed Kim from "Lost Hammer" either.  :shock: The only one that I kind of disagree with is Kimerbly from "Poseidon". I think she should go into the Mediocre tier. She was doing alright up until she reached the Broken Trident. It was only when she reached the artifact when she became sucky. Although she was slow throughout the whole temple. I will put her there for now and see what other people think.

And I am assuming you are referring to Lauren from "William Tell" too. ;)

Also, I added a list add the bottom of the page for all the female players that have not been placed into tier yet.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 08, 2013, 03:02:57 PM
You might want to fix the spelling on "Keeli" and remove Tiffany's last name. Since we can all agree that's not really her last name. ;)

Also, Jennifer from "John Sutter" should go into the amazing category as well.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 08, 2013, 03:07:30 PM
Whoops, I copied one of the really old lists from the old elimination games. I fixed Tiffani, Keeli, and Aqila's spelling. ;)

And I agree with Jennifer too. I think she should go in the very top tier.

And where do you guys think the three Kristens should go? I say "Catherine the Great" one should go in the very top tier. The "Amelia Earhart" one should go in the very bottom tier. What about the Polynesian Girl one?
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on March 08, 2013, 03:09:40 PM
Tiffani's last name isn't Milford, since we established that interview was a fake. ;) That said, she's definitely either Tier 1 or Tier 2 material, and I'm thinking Tier 1 considering the rooms and difficulties she had to go through.

I also think Yakerra belongs in the top tier, since her only real mistake was trying the Temple Guard door in the rush to escape.  But it didn't cost her and she ended up with the fastest legit win on the show.

Last one for now is Jennifer from "The Dragon Lady and the Blue Pearl," who I think fits pretty well in Tier 2.  She was pretty fast and did well in the Tomb from what I recall, but I have to wonder if maybe she could've made a better dive for the Blue Pearl at the end to try and grab it before time ran out.  Looking back at it, it felt like she spent too much time reaching for it from too far away.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 08, 2013, 03:14:33 PM
That was already fixed, TAW. Check the above posts. ;)

As for the Kristin's, Catherine the Great's Kristin should be the top tier, Polynesian Girl Kristen fits in at Tier 2, and Lucky Pig's Kristen would go all the way at the bottom. As for Yakerra, I still find her wildly overrated. But she could fit into the first tier. Agreed with Jennifer from Blue Pearl's position as well. She was great, but she needs to learn to crawl honestly.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 08, 2013, 03:16:22 PM
Tiffani's last name isn't Milford, since we established that interview was a fake. ;) That said, she's definitely either Tier 1 or Tier 2 material, and I'm thinking Tier 1 considering the rooms and difficulties she had to go through.

I also think Yakerra belongs in the top tier, since her only real mistake was trying the Temple Guard door in the rush to escape.  But it didn't cost her and she ended up with the fastest legit win on the show.

Last one for now is Jennifer from "The Dragon Lady and the Blue Pearl," who I think fits pretty well in Tier 2.  She was pretty fast and did well in the Tomb from what I recall, but I have to wonder if maybe she could've made a better dive for the Blue Pearl at the end to try and grab it before time ran out.  Looking back at it, it felt like she spent too much time reaching for it from too far away.

I don't really have any problems with those. For Tiffani, her only problem was her speed. But I can overlook that since she did many things right and she dragged that big Helmet out with no problem. If she goes into the top spot, I think Tarrah should also.

Not sure about Yakerra being in the very top spot, but I think #2 would be good too. But I will place her in the very top spot and see what other people say.

Agreed with Jennifer from Blue Pearl, although she really shouldn't have gone for that dramatic dive.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 08, 2013, 03:36:56 PM
Also, Jackie from "Oracle Bowl" and Heather from "Snow Cone" can fit into the "Lost Cause" category as well. Also, you might want to remove Sabrina from the uncateorized list. Since we can all agree she was a lost cause. ;)
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Silver Monkey on March 08, 2013, 04:04:52 PM
I think Olivia-Emma and Andrea should go in Tier #1, and Randy in Tier #2 (if just because of her exit plan).

On a side note, should we do a thread for the male players?
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: GreenMonkeys#1 on March 08, 2013, 04:11:23 PM
I think Olivia-Emma and Andrea should go in Tier #1, and Randy in Tier #2 (if just because of her exit plan).

On a side note, should we do a thread for the male players?

I think one for the male players would be a great idea

And I think Jennifer from Buddha should be either Tier 2 or 3.

And send Karisa from Me Linh to Lost Cause.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 08, 2013, 05:12:04 PM
Here is my thoughts:

Jackie: Agreed, she was terrible and hardly made any progress with 2:00+ minutes to herself.
Heather: Definitely agree. In fact, I am glad that I am not the only one that found her to be a lost cause. She didn't even make any progress with a minute left to herself. And she was to blame for the Shrine door opening.

Andrea: Agreed, she was awesome.
Olivia-Emma: Agreed, and even though she passed the half-pendant, it didn't have an impact on the final outcome of her run and she did everything else right.
Randy: I think #2 is good enough for her also. If she had a better exit plan, than I would've put her in the very top.

Jennifer (Buddha): I think #2 is a good spot for her. She was a slow contestant, but she still got the job done and knew what she was doing.
Karisa: Agreed, there is nothing good about her at all.

I think all of these girls should be in Tier #3 (Average). While they are from a victorious team, they were just average runners and their partners were the ones that earned them their win. Hopefully nobody disagrees with any of these.
Becca
Lucretia
Candace
Tabitha
Kelly (Billy the Kid)
Amanda (Apanuugpak)

Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 08, 2013, 05:18:19 PM
Also, where would you guys put Elisa from "Ivan the Terrible" at? Even though she is a temple loser, do you think she should go into the very top tier? I wouldn't mind putting her there. Same with Leah from "Belle Boyd". They didn't do anything wrong, they had hard layouts.

And I don't mind making a male list also. In fact, that was going to be the plan sooner or later. I could definitely make it tonight when I get home from work and work on it from there. Unless someone wants to make it ahead of time, which by all means go ahead. ;)
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: GreenMonkeys#1 on March 08, 2013, 06:23:24 PM
Also, where would you guys put Elisa from "Ivan the Terrible" at? Even though she is a temple loser, do you think she should go into the very top tier? I wouldn't mind putting her there. Same with Leah from "Belle Boyd". They didn't do anything wrong, they had hard layouts.

And I don't mind making a male list also. In fact, that was going to be the plan sooner or later. I could definitely make it tonight when I get home from work and work on it from there. Unless someone wants to make it ahead of time, which by all means go ahead. ;)

Done and Done ;)
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on March 08, 2013, 06:26:16 PM
I'd put Leah into Tier 2, because reviewing the episode, the Pit-Chamber passage did open when she knocked over the column.  I think it's the better strategic choice in most situations where you can go to either the Chamber or the King's Storeroom from the Pit, and since the King's Storeroom was an obvious redirect to the Chamber here, going there did cost the team precious time.

I would definitely put Elisa in Tier 1, though.  She and Travis were both amazing players, the production crew was just feeling evil that day.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on March 08, 2013, 07:02:02 PM
I'd put Leah into Tier 2, because reviewing the episode, the Pit-Chamber passage did open when she knocked over the column.  I think it's the better strategic choice in most situations where you can go to either the Chamber or the King's Storeroom from the Pit, and since the King's Storeroom was an obvious redirect to the Chamber here, going there did cost the team precious time.


Even with that one "error," Leah ("Belle Boyd") still had an outstanding performance. She cleared seven of the most time consuming rooms of Season 3 in very efficient time.

And speaking of people named Leah, I would put Leah ("Star of Sultan Saladin") toward the top as well. She had an impressive solo victory in that she did not get turned around once. The only thing that could have been "avoided" was trying the door from the Pit to the Observatory, but I don't think that "trying the direct path" (I loathe that expression) is any reason to move her down a tier, especially since there were plenty of mechanical errors that it was possible for that door to possibly open.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Bandit King on March 08, 2013, 08:27:59 PM
If Yakerra gets in the top tier, then Elisa from "Ivan the Terrible" should too. She had a brutal layout to deal with, and made great time.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 09, 2013, 12:48:28 AM
I am on a tight schedule now, so I will try and update the list tomorrow. I am glad that people agree with Elisa being in the top tier. She deserved it and followed up well with her partner's path.

Leah from "Belle Boyd" should go into the #2 tier IMO. The extra room she added was pretty time consuming and it would've saved Matthew some time to at least enter the Shrine. But she did great overall too.

I personally think Lea from "Sultan Saladin". I don't see why anyone could give her a hard time about the direct path. She was from Season One and it's not like it had a negative effect on her run besides wasting some time. She moved fast and got a top of the central shaft win. There weren't too many of those on the show.

Christina and Renee should definitely be thrown into the Lost Cause tier. Not finding the half-pendant with plenty of time and in plain sight is a significant fail on their parts. On top of that, they were pretty slow anyways.

I wonder where Janeen should go? I want to put her into the either the Mediocre or Average tier. I am leaning towards the Mediocre tier just because of how slow and hesitant in the temple.

Miriam should go into the Mediocre tier too. She almost blew her temple run by backtracking between the Dark Forest and Jester's Court. She had nothing to do with her team winning. :roll:
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 09, 2013, 12:58:36 AM
I can update the list for you if you want. ;)

And I agree with the above positions. I'd put Janeen in the Mediocre tier. She was way too hesitant in the temple.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on March 09, 2013, 04:26:36 PM
I'm torn between Tier 3 and Tier 4 for Janeen as well.  Her hesitancy did cost the team precious time, but it wasn't compounded with her not knowing the room objectives or whatnot so I'm not sure on this one.



Nominating Catherine from "The Golden Cup of Belshazzar" and Eusinia for Tier 3.  I can't remember much from the "Belshazzar" Temple Run except for the layout change and the wildly difficult dead ends, but I'm willing to bet the players weren't that much to blame for the loss.  And as for Eusinia, she did make some stupid mistakes, but her running speed did give David enough time to wrap things up with the pace he was moving at.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 10, 2013, 12:36:39 AM
I don't feel that Katherine (or Sean) was to blame for the "Belshazzar" loss at all. In fact, she was pretty fast in the temple. Unfortunately, she got held up by the dead end in the Room of Harmonic Convergence. And she didn't waste as much time as Sabrina did either, even though Katherine's deadend was more time consuming.

I agree with Eusinia's positioning too. While she was clueless in some rooms of the temple, her speed saved her from being a total lost cause,

Here are some more suggestions:

Aqila from "Golden Pepperoni" should be in the Mediocre tier. Anyone that passes up the artifact while being inside the room with it is a pretty big fail. She also moved kind of slow too.

Kelli from "Judge Roy Bean" should be in the Mediocre tier also. She blew the temple run by going into the uncleared King's Storeroom and she didn't even bother to take out her mouthpiece for reading the Secret Passwords either. I don't know, maybe she could go into the Lost Cause tier too? She hardly had a positive impact on her run.

I think that Ashley from "Henry Morgan" should go into Tier #2. She was fast and seemed like a smart player, but she made the mistake of plowing through the wall into the Quicksand Bog. This failed her chances at a solo victory.

Where do you think Ashlie from "Dolley Madison" should go? She was fast in her temple run, but she also blew her chances in the Dark Forest. While she did screw up, I think Tier #2 would've be a bad place for her. She did move fast and avoided the Ledges detour too.

I will update the list soon. ;)

Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 10, 2013, 12:52:29 AM
I'd put Ashlie in Tier 3. While she did move fast, she screwed up big time in the Dark Forest, and took forever exiting.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Bandit King on March 10, 2013, 04:49:47 PM
Where should we put Ryann? Should we go solely on her stupidity of entering the Crypt, or put her higher because we didn't really see what she could do?
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 10, 2013, 06:38:25 PM
She belongs in the Lost Cause tier. There is a reason you follow your partners path with less than 2 pendants.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 10, 2013, 08:10:33 PM
Updated the list again. I also put Ryann in the Lost Cause tier too. While we never got to see her true potential, it was her own fault on why we didn't get to see it in the first place. She was too dumb to not follow her partner's path.

Kelly from "Montezuma" can go into the Mediocre tier. She couldn't assemble that Silver Monkey if her life counted on it. Even after dropping the torso over the edge and having it thrown back to her, she still couldn't assemble it.

Jessica from "Magellan" should also go in the same tier as Kelly too. She ran into the Room of Harmonic Convergence when she had no need to. She also had one of the slowest Silver Monkey assemblies on the show.

Kerry can also share the same tier as the above two also. She was way too slow and even backtracked after assembling the Silver Monkey. :roll:

I hope no one minds Chandra in Tier #2. While she did take the longest way in the temple and not use shortcuts, she was also pretty fast and completed her rooms in good time. And this is pretty good for a center of the temple run.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 13, 2013, 01:01:00 AM
I swear, most of these girls on this list either feel average or mediocre.

With that being said, I feel that Lissy (Boadicea), Amber (Grandy Nanny), Jessica (Cosa Rara), an Gracelyn (Sultan Suleiman) all belong in the Mediocre tier. They were either clueless or slow players that had no idea what they were doing.

Rinetta (Mata Hari) and Jessica (Lost Fountain of Youth) should go into the Lost Cause tier. Even though they had no chances at winning, they still screwed around with the little time they had and didn't even make it far along their partner's path.

Elizabeth (Nostradamus) and Carly (Two-Cornered Hat) should go into Tier #2. Elizabeth was fast, but she didn't last long enough. And Carly made the mistake of taking the Mine Shaft elevator. Still good players.

And Noelle (Xerxes) is going to go into the Lost Cause tier like her partner Pat did. She is pretty much just a female Casey from Kilimanjaro. :roll:
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: SGLegendsfan on March 14, 2013, 08:35:32 AM
Brandy from the Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu, i would vote for her to be put in tier .minus her small hesitation in the temple, i would say she was fine in the temple
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 14, 2013, 03:34:49 PM
I assume you mean Tier 2? Then yeah, I agree. She was good despite the mistakes she made.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Bandit King on March 17, 2013, 05:56:55 PM
I move that we put Katie from "Mystical Spellbook" in the top tier.  She had less than a minute to work with, but she BLAZED through the temple with what time she had.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 17, 2013, 06:38:12 PM
I agree, Katie was amazing in what little time she had. Even though she didn't have to complete any completions, she had to run through a lot of rooms to get where Jared was left off. On top of that, she didn't take the Dark Forest detour. She is an example of how you should use every single second in the temple to your fullest. Maybe Lauren, Dana, and Brian should take notes from her.

And I promise to update the list tonight. ;)
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Legend of Legends on March 17, 2013, 09:24:53 PM
I think Kate from the Mary Shelley episode should be put in tier 3 or 4.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 17, 2013, 10:07:18 PM
I updated the list and I personally put Kate into tier #4. The girl spent way too long in the temple and considered how hyped she was, she didn't do anything special. She hesitated a little too much and didn't move that fast either.

We have a smaller lists of girls now. I think girls like Sherra (Henry Hudson), Jenelle (Efoua), Katie (Leonardo Da Vinci), Heather (Stone Head), Lauren (Lion-Slashed Jacket), and Olivia (William the Conqueror) can all go into Tier #3. Most of them moved at an average pace in the temple and they didn't last long either.

I want to put Whitney (Captain John Smith) in the Mediocre tier. She moved way too slow in the temple, and it was not because of Medusa's Lair either. Plus, she should've found that half-pendant also. It wasn't that well-hidden either.

Angela (Johnny Appleseed) should go into Tier #2. She moved fast and put up a good effort to bring the Mush Pot Hat out before time was up, but she hesitated a little too much and wasted time in the Pit.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 17, 2013, 11:06:37 PM
Sherra and Lauren (Sacagewea) both lasted a very long time in the temple. It's not like they only lasted three rooms like the other players. They still deserve to be in the average tier though. The rest you mentioned I agree on as well.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Legend of Legends on March 18, 2013, 04:24:28 PM
I updated the list and I personally put Kate into tier #4. The girl spent way too long in the temple and considered how hyped she was, she didn't do anything special. She hesitated a little too much and didn't move that fast either.

We have a smaller lists of girls now. I think girls like Sherra (Henry Hudson), Jenelle (Efoua), Katie (Leonardo Da Vinci), Heather (Stone Head), Lauren (Lion-Slashed Jacket), and Olivia (William the Conqueror) can all go into Tier #3. Most of them moved at an average pace in the temple and they didn't last long either.

I want to put Whitney (Captain John Smith) in the Mediocre tier. She moved way too slow in the temple, and it was not because of Medusa's Lair either. Plus, she should've found that half-pendant also. It wasn't that well-hidden either.

Angela (Johnny Appleseed) should go into Tier #2. She moved fast and put up a good effort to bring the Mush Pot Hat out before time was up, but she hesitated a little too much and wasted time in the Pit.

I think Kate's enthusiasm was fake, for some reason, and she was terrible, like you said.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 18, 2013, 11:33:16 PM
Kate's enthusiasm was definitely staged. The girl had to make some kind of pose every second she was in camera frame. It really did start to get tiring and a little over-the-top. But some of her poses do get to me. :lol: But yeah, she wasn't that great anyways.

I actually want to put Erica ( :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll: ) into Tier #2. She was pretty fast in the temple and made it to her fifth room under a minute. Jeremy was the slow and clueless runner in this easy and pathetic win. Erica did just fine.

Paula (Butch Cassidy) should go into Tier #3. While she moved at a fast pace, all of her rooms were literally hit the actuator objectives. She wouldn't have finished with so much time if she entered a room with an actual objective.

Leah (Blackfeet Chief), Rachel (Hans Holbein), Christine (Robert the Bruce), and Tabitha (Dr. Livingstone) should all go into the Average tier with Paula.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Legend of Legends on March 19, 2013, 04:46:05 PM
Kate's enthusiasm was definitely staged. The girl had to make some kind of pose every second she was in camera frame. It really did start to get tiring and a little over-the-top. But some of her poses do get to me. :lol: But yeah, she wasn't that great anyways.

I actually want to put Erica ( :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll: ) into Tier #2. She was pretty fast in the temple and made it to her fifth room under a minute. Jeremy was the slow and clueless runner in this easy and pathetic win. Erica did just fine.

Paula (Butch Cassidy) should go into Tier #3. While she moved at a fast pace, all of her rooms were literally hit the actuator objectives. She wouldn't have finished with so much time if she entered a room with an actual objective.

Leah (Blackfeet Chief), Rachel (Hans Holbein), Christine (Robert the Bruce), and Tabitha (Dr. Livingstone) should all go into the Average tier with Paula.

Jennifer from Melted Head and Lacey from Sforza also had staged enthusiasm, and I nominate both for tier 3.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 19, 2013, 07:07:34 PM
I say Lacey should be in Tier 2. She seemed to know what she was doing, even with her easy layout. Agree about Jennifer from Tussaud though.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 19, 2013, 08:28:18 PM
Yeah, I think Lacey should go into Tier #2 also. Even though her temple layout was easy, she did help contribute to the win and did a decent job her short time in the temple. But I agree with Jennifer from "Madame Tussaud" going into the Average tier. She did make it far with the time she was allotted. At least she wasn't like Lauren and Dana who did nothing.

Brittany (Pytheas) should go into the same tier as Jennifer. She moved slow, but she knew what she was doing and she made it pretty far. She even gave Damien more than enough time, but he was so slow and didn't follow up on her steps well.

I honestly think that Irish should go into Tier #2.  She moved way too slow in a S3 temple and it should NOT take 2:30 to reach the point where she did. Even Brittany was taken out with 1:25 left on the clock and that was one room before where Irish was taken out. Plus, Irish wasted too much time trying to complete some objectives.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 19, 2013, 08:34:19 PM
Tier 4 you mean? ;)
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Legend of Legends on March 19, 2013, 08:35:43 PM
I agree with tier 4. Irish was flawed and not great at all.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 19, 2013, 08:36:17 PM
Yeah, Tier 4 for Irish.  :oops:

I think Tracy (Atahualpa) should go into Tier 2 though. She moved pretty fast and grabbed the Golden Jaguar with a couple of seconds left. Pretty going considering Chris was taken out one room away and she had to still assemble the Silver Monkey and go through the Holes of Python again.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 16, 2013, 11:05:25 PM
If the male players thread should get bumped, this should too.

Anyways, have we covered all the female winners? If not, we could rank the rest of them next.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 16, 2013, 11:11:29 PM
We still have:

Erika ( :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll: )
Tracy (Snake Bracelet)
Tabitha (Dr. Livingstone)
Randy (Egyptian Queen)
Annie (Benzibab)

I say that Tracy should go into the Average tier. While she did bring the Snake Bracelet out, she moved at an average pace and she was all over the temple. They should've had more time on the clock with the easy layout and how much progress her partner made in such little time.

I would put Tabitha in the same tier. She moved at an average pace and got taken out early.

Randy should go into Tier #2. She was very fast, it was her temple exit that hurt her. But she knew what she was doing and her speed saved this run from ending in an "Icarus".

Not sure what to do with Annieand Erika. They all moved fast, but they hardly lasted in the temple.

Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 16, 2013, 11:16:50 PM
We agreed above that Erica should be in Tier 2. And I'm pretty sure Tabitha was considered a Tier 3 as well. I would give Annie from "Benzibab" a 2 as well. She may not have lasted long in the temple, but she was fast. I agree on your rankings of Randy and Tracy too.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on April 16, 2013, 11:41:40 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Annie had the shortest time in the temple as a frontrunner.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 16, 2013, 11:44:50 PM
Yeah, her temple departure was very quick. Which was very good considering the rooms she had to complete weren't very simple at all. In fact, it took some Season 3 girls (Rachel and Lissy come to mind) to enter their third room with one minute into the run.

Although I think Damian from "Map to the Lost Gold Mine" had very quick departure also.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 17, 2013, 12:58:30 AM
Also, I noticed on your list that Noelle is in Tier 4, but NOT Tier 5. You might want to fix that? ;)
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on April 17, 2013, 08:45:10 AM
Well, Lissy was taken out three rooms into the temple, but she was captured AFTER she completed the Chamber of the Sacred Markers. So for all intent and purpose, she completed three rooms. Annie, on the other hand, was removed upon ENTERING the Tomb of the Headless Kings, so she really only completed two rooms. That discrepancy is what caused a difference in the amount of time it took for them to be removed from the temple.
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 17, 2013, 03:08:40 PM
The OP has been updated, which really shrinks the list of the "Not listed." I didn't include Annie and Lissy, since I'm still undecided about them.

Also, we haven't covered Shannon from "Davy Crockett" yet, another winner. I think she should go into the Average Tier. What do you think?
Title: Re: Female Players Temple Tiers
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 17, 2013, 04:49:55 PM
Thanks for updating that for me. And with that update, our list is getting smaller. :P

I say put Shannon in the Average tier also. She did move decent, but her path was kind of simple and she didn't complete many objectives. She was still better than Adam though.

Most of these girls left feel like they belong in the Average tier pretty much.

The only one I don't feel belongs in the Average tier is Tina (Kamehameha). She moved fast in the temple, and it didn't matter what path she took because it would've ended in triple capture anyways. She had more than enough time left too despite entering almost every room of the temple. She should go into Tier #2.

Katie (Lily-Crested Crown) should go into Tier #4. She messed up pretty bad in the Chamber and it should never take over a minute to complete. But she did move fast though in her run, which saved it from being a disaster.