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The Swamp => The Jesters' Court => Topic started by: Toltendo on February 14, 2011, 02:38:13 PM

Title: I Hate My Homeland
Post by: Toltendo on February 14, 2011, 02:38:13 PM
So this is in response to ALF's rants about Singapore. It's all yours man. ;)
Title: Re: I Hate My Homeland
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on February 16, 2011, 04:41:57 AM
*Grabs some popcorn and a soda*

Oh, I can't wait to hear ALF's tirades about Singapore!  :)

Bring it on ALF!!! :lol:
Title: Re: I Hate My Homeland
Post by: Toltendo on February 22, 2011, 10:12:22 PM
Alton, RJF, you guys need to see this video cause it's a clip from a documentary from 1992, where someone from Singapore's government is being interviewed about making Singapore the powerhouse of IT (information technology).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_3A2jSnvHE&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_3A2jSnvHE&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: I Hate My Homeland
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on February 23, 2011, 08:13:51 AM
Oh please, if any one country achieved THAT, it would have been Taiwan. AsusTEK (one of the largest, if not the largest, manufacturers of motherboards in the world as well as making amazing monitors and laptops), HTC (manufacturer of the Nexus One and dozens of other Android phones), and Acer are all Taiwan-based companies, not to mention the hundreds of more small electronic companies and manufacturers of computer parts. "Silicon Island" was a coined nickname for Taiwan.

Singapore is stuck with warehouses and manufacturing plants. Clean and green, my ass.

And if you want a full-blown rant, you'll have to wait until the fire is properly fueled. :P
Title: Re: I Hate My Homeland
Post by: Toltendo on March 12, 2011, 12:47:34 AM
Well I wanna steer this thread into something different:

I hate game show hosts.

I don't hate the people that don't live through the cheesy persona of a game show host, like Howie Mandel who's more known for being a comedian or Drew Carey, well known for other shows. But people like Pat Sajak, Wink Martindale, or Todd Netwon, who just embrace the likeness of the host who seems to be informal through people's souls and blood circulation.

One guy can only find a job through hosting game shows, another a political nutz, and his face even more dead as the co-host. And I'm just talking about Pat Sajak.
Title: Re: I Hate My Homeland
Post by: Toltendo on May 16, 2011, 12:37:39 AM
Well hopefully I'll be getting 21 canings in Singapore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning_in_Singapore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning_in_Singapore)
Title: Re: I Hate My Homeland
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on June 19, 2011, 06:33:08 AM
Since this is actually a longer rant, I figured I’d make use of this thread. :P

There are no retirement plan pensions in Singapore. Instead, what the government does is take 2.5% of your salary every month and store it with them. If you work like a slave and somehow manage to get the minimum required amount of money, you only get it back (in small, insignificant pay-backs from the government). In fact, we are left so poor until then that we actually can borrow money from this account (called CPF) to buy a commieblock apartment. WE HAVE TO BORROW OUR OWN FUCKING MONEY THAT IS UNDER GOVERNMENT CONTROL TO BUY A FUCKING HOUSE.

That’s the tip of the iceberg.

Well, the government (and by government, I mean PAP) just raised the minimum amount to SGD $131,000. Let’s say you work 30 years between the ages of 25 and 55, considering that all men have to waste two years of their lives in the army and then compete with 374723572509 foreigners/foreign-born-and-naturalized citizens to get into college.

30 years = 360 months
131,000 / 360 = 363.89
363.89 / 2.5 x 100% = 14,555.6

You need an average salary of $14,555.60 in that period of 30 years in order to get your own money back when you turn 55. Needless to say, the majority of Singaporeans don’t reach the minimum required amount by age 55 and have to continue working well into their old age. The only people that do are probably those working for the government (and by that, I mean those working for the PAP)… oh wait, hang on a second. :roll: God knows what age you’ll be before the government starts paying you back, and I think it’s safe to say that you’ll be six feet under before they even give you back half of your CPF money, and guess who all that money goes to.

If these rants continue, I think I’ll have to include this section from now on.

What it is
CPF

Advertised by the government as
Helping you have enough funds after you retire

What it really does
1. Keep you practically working until you die
2. Give the government free money when you die
Title: Re: I Hate My Homeland
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on June 19, 2011, 06:38:47 AM
I believe I've asked this before, but to have the answers all in one easier-to-dig-up place for future reference: What would you really need to do before you could leave Singapore? Can they really stop you from emigrating to, say, Malaysia or Australia or somewhere else?





EDIT: Oh, and not only did I not understand your partly-Engrish game show host rant, Toltendo, but I there's already a thread for complaining about things we hate in general here (http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=1185.0).  And to think you're usually the one creating different threads for every little thing. :P
Title: Re: I Hate My Homeland
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on June 19, 2011, 07:24:29 AM
Leaving is actually easier than you'd expect. Giving up citizenship so I can become a citizen of the country that I immigrate into? Not THAT difficult either, but it's gonna take a long time for sure. The two issues are a) being treated with extreme hostility should I return to visit relatives or whatever and b) the bigger issue of withdrawing any CPF money I have from working in Singapore prior to emigration. Those who give up Singaporean citizenship have experienced horror stories trying to get their CPF money from the government like trying to take a toy away from a six-year-old that really wants it.
Title: Re: I Hate My Homeland
Post by: Toltendo on August 12, 2011, 10:27:09 PM
I think we should change this topic to, "I Hate My Homeland (Singapore edition)". Anyway, here's a death/horror theme park in Singapore.

http://www.disinfo.com/2011/08/theme-park-from-hell-singapores-haw-par-villa/ (http://www.disinfo.com/2011/08/theme-park-from-hell-singapores-haw-par-villa/)
Title: Re: I Hate My Homeland
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on August 13, 2011, 12:14:10 AM
There's two groups of individuals in Singapore that are given unjustified privileges: one is the government; this is the other. (http://www.temasekreview.com/2011/08/13/prc-student-with-dual-citizenship-awarded-presidents-scholarship-by-pap/)
Title: Re: I Hate My Homeland
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on August 13, 2011, 03:02:22 AM
Of course. :roll: You know, with all this favoritism crap in Singapore, I'm really starting to hope the PAP is increasing the possibilities of a Chinese or Malay takeover.  Somebody needs to knock them off their high horses and it might as well be one of the bigger countries over there.


Oh, and btw, I would be ranting about the US right about now if I had enough fuel, if you will.  I can't say I've had to deal with that much bullshit lately, so... nothing to vent about atm. :P
Title: Re: I Hate My Homeland
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on September 10, 2011, 08:51:30 PM
I really hope I was wrong about the whole speech Obama was giving the other night, but I thought I was just hearing the same old story about trying to "create" jobs.

And frankly, they should know better.  We've seen this fail countless times in the past few years, and yet the higher-ups keep taking our money to try and get this thing to work. At one point, Einstein described a situation where somebody tries the same thing over and over, but expects different results. I forget if what he was describing was "stupidity" or "insanity," but I've seen both cited and both describe what's in office now.

And meanwhile, nobody seems to think that it might be more productive to simply replace foreign manufacturing with domestic manufacturing. I'm pretty sure countries like China are getting the better end of the outsourced labor deal anyway. And even then, we as a country are still paying tons of taxes so these guys all get ridiculous six- or seven-figure salaries, and in some cases, health benefits for life. Do any of us regular folk get a luxury like that? No; we lose benefits when we lose our job. There's no reason politicians should have it much better off when all they're succeeding in is sucking us dry. But how much can we really do to directly change this plutocracy back into the democracy it should be?
Title: Re: I Hate My Homeland
Post by: The Headless King on September 10, 2011, 10:34:35 PM
If you want to understand just how f**king stupid and narcissistic the rich people in this country are, watch this:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-18-2011/world-of-class-warfare---warren-buffett-vs--wealthy-conservatives
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-18-2011/world-of-class-warfare---the-poor-s-free-ride-is-over

A few comments on these from me:

-It's freaking pathetic that the most reliable news comes from a comedy show
-It's really a shame that Jon had to say "bizarrely uneccentric billionaire Warren Buffet"
-I used to think the rich hated poor people.  Now, I now better.  After attacking Warren Buffet for even suggesting the rich give a little, I realize that they don't just hate poor people.  They hate people with common sense.
-Since when the hell is 5% of the deficit a "tiny fraction"
-Yeah, taking half of what the bottom 50% have might help the deficit a little bit.  But you know what?  If we took half of what the top 10% have, there wouldn't BE a deficit anymore.
-They really do have it ass-backwards.  The poor people aren't taking all of the rich people's money while the rich do all the work.  IT'S THE EXACT OPPOSITE!

What we need in the U.S. is a President that will put their foot down and say "F**k you, rich pricks".



Oh, and a Congress where rich pricks aren't the majority.
Title: Re: I Hate My Homeland
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on October 24, 2012, 10:29:15 AM
Moving this discussion over from the Main Spam Topic to avoid cluttering it up with too much political/economics talk. :)

What I really think they should try to do is impose a profit-based tax on companies that outsource just to get out of penning bigger paychecks to American workers.  The more money they make from the products, the higher tax they have to pay and the only way to get out is to stop outsourcing.
I'm an Economics student, and I know never to use absolutes when it comes to economical situations; but from what I know about Corporate America... I am very certain that such a tax will just cause firms to pass on the burden of the tax onto consumers in the form of higher prices because their average costs have increased from hiring more expensive labor. It's called cost-push inflation. It may work only if the tax is so heavy that it causes producing in China to be significantly more expensive than producing in the U.S.

Either way, I think you are just going to have to deal with the fact that babies will be born with "Made on China" stamped on them eventually. And I would be surprised if at least half your country doesn't drag out the communist label when you they see the government trying to control your wonderful so-called free market system (it's clearly a mixed system to anyone with basic economic knowledge) which evidently is just a stewing pot for huge, immoral corporations.
Well, I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong about something. *Shrugs* I really don't know much of the technical stuff, but seeing as you suggested the tax idea is an unlikely solution, at least I think I understand why the whole job creation plans are underway instead.  It's still a pain to have to look so long and hard to find something that says "Made in U.S.A." on it, but I guess that goes without saying.

Could there be a third option, though? Aside from the outsource tax idea and domestic job creation, I mean.
Title: Re: I Hate My Homeland
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on October 24, 2012, 11:31:11 PM
Unfortunately, you may have to count on China putting up a barrier to foreign firms setting up shop on their land. I have no clue if their government is moving towards this. Nonetheless, though you'd think they would also want to protect their domestic firms and allow them to grow, you also have to consider: which government wouldn't try to encourage economic growth in their country and employment for their citizens?

Otherwise, I don't think there's any kind of non-tax-related policy that the American government could introduce to directly stop big corporations from producing overseas (by that, I mean, I don't think the government can go to the Nike headquarters and say, "you can't have factories in China anymore") without causing everyone, including China, to call foul.