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The Swamp => The Dark Forest => Topic started by: Asian Legends Fan on March 17, 2012, 08:26:54 AM

Title: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on March 17, 2012, 08:26:54 AM
Restarted...

Anyway, to begin, I'd like to be a little hypocritical. :P I know I said I'm not really a fan of downtuning or dropped tunings, but I'm really loving having my electric tuned a full step down. However, it's mainly because I can play so many songs in this tuning: most of Sentenced's catalog, "Crack In A Stone" by Amorphis, "Sad But True" by Metallica... and the list goes on.

I may be working on and recording a Gothic metal demo or EP soon if I'm in luck - really all I need is someone to play the bass and any solos that I may wish to add; because I'm going to be taking care of the guitars, vocals, and drums by myself. The main reason I want to do this project is because I've written some songs lately that really don't fit thrash music - for the most part that's because of the lyrics; but I also had this vision of a very technical (but just four-minute long) Gothic metal song, as weird or paradoxical as that may sound.
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on March 24, 2012, 07:23:28 AM
Nightwish: "Scaretale" Live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EmpS8E7d30#)

:D

Also, got Beyond Magnetic, Design Your Universe, and a third album by a Taiwanese melodic black metal band called Chthonic today. :P
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 01, 2012, 09:20:08 PM
Is Lacuna Coil really not metal according to metalheads?
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on April 01, 2012, 09:24:38 PM
Everyone's opinion on what belongs to what genre varies... so just listen to your own.  It's less of a hassle. :P
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on April 03, 2012, 03:26:15 AM
I've become really addicted to Epica lately, particularly Design Your Universe.  I've been trying to break in Requiem for the Indifferent as well, but aside from "Storm the Sorrow," it's not really sticking in my mind, for some reason.  I'm not sure what it is, but this album doesn't feel quite as remarkable as the ones before it... or is Design Your Universe just too hard of an act to follow?


Thoughts, if anyone else has already listened to the new album?
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on April 04, 2012, 10:53:10 AM
(http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv76/asianlegendsfan/IMAG0049.jpg)

Picked this up from another outlet of the same chain of Israeli CD stores at the Tel Aviv Airport! :D :D :D

Btw, it's the extended cut that includes ALL the songs that were played and were cut off on the American edition (e.g. "That Was Just Your Life"), which is just awesome. And it seems like they overdubbed all of Dave's vocals on this version. I guess that's reasonable because his voice was terrible here, but sometimes they're just ridiculous (i.e. overdubbing "Hook In Mouth" with a vocal track from exactly 20 years before, at the 1990 Wembley show).
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on April 05, 2012, 08:22:23 AM
Delain - Get The Devil Out Of Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fylwIkyS43Q#ws)

Well, this is a song that Delain has just released from their upcoming album. RJF, you may be interested but I simply don't like it. April Rain and especially their debut, Lucidity, are pretty difficult to top though.
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 07, 2012, 11:54:28 PM
Well hopefully their other songs are better. Why don't you like it?
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on April 08, 2012, 01:09:51 AM
Well, several reasons, actually. For one, it's a very good example of the "tune down to sound heavier" method that I dislike. You can tell that this one was written to be an accessible single to persuade fans of nu or alternative metal bands, rock, or even mainstream into listening to them. This shouldn't bother me if the song was particularly good; but considering that this is a band that put out a symphonic Gothic metal masterpiece as their debut album, and the fact that this song just doesn't catch my attention that much, it does.

Plus, it reminds me just a little of this Poisonblack song:

PoisonBlack - Bear the Cross (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxjgIWtBqX0#)
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on April 10, 2012, 07:19:39 AM
I don't believe I've recommended this one to RJF yet, so here we go:

Wintersun - Wintersun/05 - Death And The Healing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxMkIm5JxkM#)

In actual fact, Wintersun is a melodic black metal with the occasional clean and melodically sung vocals; this is just the most ballad-like track they've done. If you ever feel like trying something more extreme, I recommend their song "Starchild."
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on April 13, 2012, 12:17:34 AM
Quote from: Official Megadeth Facebook Page
This just in... Megadeth WILL play the album "Countdown To Extinction" in its entirety at Teatro Caupolican in Santiago, Chile on Sept 7.
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on April 13, 2012, 10:10:05 AM
Nice. :o I was hoping for something like that this year, even if it was only for a show or two. :)
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on April 22, 2012, 10:32:29 AM
So far, everyone I've showed this song to has fallen in love with it. Will TAW or RJF dare to be a combo breaker? :P

Amorphis - Sampo [Better Quality] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXvf2UMk4AA#)
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 22, 2012, 11:43:51 AM
Before I listen to it, what type of metal? Any growls or harsh vocals?
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on April 23, 2012, 01:35:33 AM
A very short bout of growls in the middle, but all clean melodic vocals otherwise. Seriously though, IMHO Tomi Joutsen is one of the best growlers in all of metal and if you ever want to hear very full and understandable growls so as to not hear a bad example as the first and be turned off, this is the guy and the band to check out.

Oh, and Amorphis really isn't the band to categorize. They stay true to their namesake, and this song could only be described as melodic folk death Gothic metal if we wanted to include all of their music's elements. :P
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on May 31, 2012, 09:10:40 AM
ORPHANED LAND - Norra El Norra (OFFICIAL VIDEO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZUcWngEtcM#ws)

Ridiculously catchy tune (never mind the lyrics being in Hebrew :lol:), and a brilliant band overall. TAW, you know more about them than me, so are their first two albums any good? I'm very impressed by their two more recent albums (though Mabool remains my favorite) but a significant reason for that is because of the good production and opulent folk elements which I heard are absent on both Sahara and El Norra Alila.
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on July 11, 2012, 10:25:13 AM
For any interested (i.e. just TAW as usual :P), I am currently in the process of writing an album. It's primarily metal; but of a wide range drawing influences from many different bands and some non-metal stuff as well. I intend to compile a range of songs that are borderline melodic death metal like newer Amorphis; to some old Gothic/doom type of stuff like Paradise Lost; modern Gothic metal like early Lacuna Coil; to stuff that's more like Gothic rock rather than metal. Some of the album's going to be straightforward, three-minute, single-like material; some is going to be longer, more structured, more technically challenging stuff; some will be very epic and ambitious.

Here's the intended tracklist with estimated track lengths and working titles (although I am satisfied with most of them, so they're probably final):

1. "His Final Stretch Of The Journey" - 4:48
2. "Follow The Leader" - 5:30
3. "Spa For The Suicidal" - 4:32
4. "River Of Ice" - 3:36
5. "In Thy Name" - 4:26
6. "Do Us Part" - 4:13
7. "A Chronicle Of Time (The Traps)" - 12:08
     I. "Survivor Of Time (a poem)"
     II. "An Old Friend In A New Body"
     III. "Breakdown" (read: NOT the shitty metalcore element that I can't stand)
     IV. "Survivor Of Time (Reprise)"
     V. "The Bad Always Ends? (a poem)"

8. "The Curse Of Life" - 6:11
9. "And No Mourning After" - 3:00

The tentative title for the album is The Trap The Light Lay. If you could see the cover art I have planned for this, you would think I'm trying to be some kind of shit-stirrer, but that's the direction I'm going in - to mislead people. Yes, I know I'm being a troll. :P But that's the kind of the fun you can have with this, so why not? It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION. The "light" and the "trap" in question are both symbolic, but of personal symbolism that no one would could possibly interpret correctly unless I explained.

Anyway, finally getting to the point of this post. Just today I completed a "demo" of the song "River Of Ice"; with the entire song electronically composed using Guitar Pro and the vocals recorded myself. Like I said, it's a demo - I don't even like the mix I've done but I couldn't find anything that I liked as a balance between the music and the vocals, and the vocals are a little soft and powerless considering that this is supposed to be the most "ZOMG br00TaLZ!!11!11" one on the album. :?

Linkage (http://soundcloud.com/haoliangah/river-of-ice)

A few notes: the guitar solo is missing, obviously. I intend to have some female choir vocals accompanying me at the very end. And the chants sound terrible because they're supposed to be group chants. But oh well. And the last note is supposed to be held much longer (which can't be done in Guitar Pro) and then crossfade into some church bells that will precede the next song, "In Thy Name."

Oh, right. I hope to have the record out by end 2013, latest. I'm getting a friend to do the lead guitars (possibly rhythm as well); I will take care of the vocals, drums, and (if I'm not useless) rhythm guitars; and as for the other instruments, guests, I suppose. I'll figure that out down the road.
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on July 11, 2012, 10:45:52 AM
Splitting the lyrics from the previous post so it doesn't get too long...

"His Final Stretch Of The Journey"
"Valo!... se sokaisee minut..."
Translation: "Light!... it blinded me..."

He opened his eyes to see the light
shining at the end of the tunnel;
The one he had been waiting for.

The nearing symbol of liberation:
Soon he’d be free from the time,
From the fights, from the pain,
From that which he had abhorred

Life had given him many lemons
to put in the basket on his back;
Without a day that passed he was sore.

But complacency won the battle,
As he made his life’s lemonade,
Not knowing that the basket
was making his spine deform.

Death can be our way of life;
It is a path we all can take;
Sometimes we yearn for light,
Yet to nevermore awake.

His daily bread was a plate of lies;
He was force-fed till the end;
He drank from the cup of false hopes.

His trying was ineffectual; in life
all his hard work left uncredited,
Unnoticed, unrecognized -
He never reaped what he’d sown.

Death can be our way of life;
It is a path we all can take;
Sometimes we yearn for light,
Yet to nevermore awake.

Sometimes we’re kept awake at night
by a storm of misguided hate.
It’s hopeless never knowing quite
our pain for us who could abate.

Vicarious life got him to nowhere,
An unending roundabout of pain.
Led back to the start, no matter which road.

He had driven without direction;
The failure of dictation had angered him
to the point that he had no desire
to know where he’d go...

Solo

And so away he drifted:
The sorrows of life faded from him;
A calming night crushed down on his soul.

It was his final stretch of the journey;
But as he came closer to the light,
It was no longer comforting, it was cold.

Death can be our way of life;
It is a path we all can take;
Sometimes we yearn for light,
Yet to nevermore awake.

Sometimes we’re kept awake at night
by a storm of misguided hate.
It’s hopeless never knowing quite
our pain for us who could abate.

When he opened his eyes the second time,
He now saw not the eternal brightness.
Like his life, the gleam had faded away,
And the sun then once again rose over him.

Perkele.

"Follow The Leader"
I take a stroll through this park
On this cold winter’s night
Dying trees in falling snow
Behind black clouds, the moon shines bright
And on a seat of frozen grass
I take a look and then I see
That in the sea of cold white light
Only my shadow’s there for me

I see the frigid cross up in the sky
A ship to happiness and its mast
The cold red carpet cuts through the heart
The candles glow, down to their last
And on a seat of hallowed pine
I take a look and then I see
In the moon creeping through the doors
Not even God is there for me

Finally, I come to your resting place
With woe I read your name
And just one though crosses my mind:
How can we meet again?
So on a seat of haunted stone
I take a look and finally see
That if our love were to exist again
Then only death is there for me

"Spa For The Suicidal"
(An ode to Singapore's Bedok Reservoir)

If you’re feeling crushing pressures
And trust me— here, you will
Come to the oasis in the east

Through the thicket lies a place, a space
Away from all the stresses that thrive
In the concrete hell beside

Enjoy a lengthy relaxation
One place that nothing will interrupt
End up on the beach of hot stones
Rest your face in the mud

Come to the spa for the suicidal
Forever rest in clear waters deep
It’s where we all want to go
The experience is heavenly

No job, no home, no cash, no future
What life is there to value?
Here you just relax and let it go

Finally you can find some peace
But don’t be stupefied by the thought
This is no escape from the law

Enjoy a lengthy relaxation
One place that nothing will interrupt
End up on the beach of hot stones
Rest your face in the mud

Come to the spa for the suicidal
Forever rest in clear waters deep
It’s where we all want to go
The experience is heavenly

Solo

Enjoy a lengthy relaxation
One place that nothing will interrupt
End up on the beach of hot stones
Rest your face in the mud

Come to the spa for the suicidal
Forever rest in clear waters deep
It’s where we all want to go
The experience is heavenly

Spa for the suicidal
Spa for the suicidal
Spa for the suicidal
The experience is heavenly

"River Of Ice"
I was born an unwanted child
I was a whale washed up on the shore
I was placed in a hand basket to Hell
Cast down the river of ice

I rest upon the frigid waters
I’m out of place, I’m stuck
I have nowhere to go
Frozen’s time in an endless winter
As I float down the river of ice

Slow is the flow of the frozen river
I’ll never make it out to sea
Yet I long to make my covenant
To the greater force, a cold black mirror

I rest upon the frigid waters
I’m out of place, I’m stuck
I have nowhere to go
Frozen’s time in an endless winter
As I float down the river of ice

Solo

I rest upon the frigid waters
I’m out of place, I’m stuck
I have nowhere to go
Frozen’s time in an endless winter
As I float down the river of ice

As… I… float…
Down the river of ice
As… I… float…
Down the river of ice
As… I… float…
Down the river of ice
As… I… float…

"In Thy Name"
You live your life in search of what is true
You never wait and see, perhaps it’ll come to you
But instead you choose to blind yourself and go
And thus never will you move on with something new

You live your life in hopes of getting higher
You follow blindly to avoid getting burned by fire
And in this fashion a misunderstanding’s built
A never-ending game of telephone, please God, cut the wire

You don’t know what’s right or wrong
And you’re not superior
You don’t know where we belong
And you’re not superior
Around the world you preach and yell:
Fulfill the will
As long as you do it in His name
You can break every rule

Solo

You don’t know what’s right or wrong
And you’re not superior
You don’t know where we belong
And you’re not superior
Around the world you preach and yell:
Fulfill the will
As long as you do it in His name
You can break every rule

You light a candle on this altar
I’ll pick it up and let it glow
You hold it high towards nothingness
And I’ll still find my way in the end

On this day, we gather to say goodbye
to a dear departed, this self-killer.
Yet, we pray in Thy name that You will
accept him into your arms; for he hath
hurt no more than a block of wood,
And never in a name such as Thine,
So in faith of all that is just...

"Do Us Part"
(This one's a little angsty even though it still has my style IMO, but I had to write it - and I wrote it for a reason.)

Seems every time you try your best
The ones that prosper are the rest
And it leaves you beaten and sore
It looks like I was no exception
Stop over-thinking and kill all affection
And so I’ll suffer all this pain no more

It’s a frozen sword into my heart
To see all the sycophants deceive you
Mistreat you, berate you, forsake you
For some reason you go back for more

I’m letting your cold wind blow
Through the open doors of my heart
May death do us part
The height of your hypocrisy
Slowly freezing over my heart
May death do us part

When I finally was ahead in the race
You burned the medal with a smile on your face
Enough to make me bleed from the core
And so I think I’ll end all life
And so I think I’ll end my strife
For I never hurt the ones that I adore

It’s a frozen sword into my heart
To see all the sycophants deceive you
Mistreat you, berate you, forsake you
For some reason all they do you ignore

I’m letting your cold wind blow
Through the open doors of my heart
May death do us part
The height of your hypocrisy
Slowly freezing over my heart
May death do us part

Solo

It’s a frozen sword into my heart
To see all the sycophants beat you
Mistreat you, berate you, forsake you
For some reason you go back for more

I’m letting your cold wind blow
Through the open doors of my heart
May death do us part
The height of your hypocrisy
Slowly freezing over my heart
May death do us part

"A Chronicle Of Time (The Traps)"[/size]
I: Survivor Of Time (a poem)
The tear that escapes my eye is warm, and deep;
It flows like a survivor of time, a fragment of
my memories that now seem so far away…

II: An Old Friend In A New Body
So many times I’ve had sand kicked in my face
So many piles of shit I’ve stepped in on my race
Against opponent ever-competent, he makes me fail
All of the people that I’ve hated – just unavoidable distractions

And now that I’ve gotten the chance to detach myself
From harsh realities clinging to my legs
They may leave a scratch or two, they burn in the sea
of my agonies – but I’m finally surfacing

O, how I forgot what happiness feels like
O, how I forgot what innocence feels like

And then I once again reopen my arms to friendship
I feel its warmth embrace me back; for I was alone
For all those days that scarred, I won’t pick at them
For I know the bad will never cease to bleed out of me,
If I did.

O, how I forgot what happiness feels like
O, how I forgot what innocence feels like
My old friends have taken on new bodies
And I have finally come home.

I can’t believe I spent those days wallowing
in my misery, squeezing what I’ve been given:
The drink was acid-sour, it melted my throat;
The stench had burned my eyes

But now I’ve poured it down the drain –
The fruits of my labors are useless
I’m setting all of my sorrows free –
Fly south, and never back.

III: Breakdown
Funeral… the symbol
The one I reminisce upon
Time… the killer
My memories stay clear
Tears… the leader
Beginning of my breakdown
Fear… the weakness
Here comes another day now

IV: Survivor Of Time (Reprise)
The self-killer’s gone, his gleam has died
The happy memories are survivors of time
They eat away, haunting the future near to him

Survivors of time – too strong for their own good
My memories good lick at me with venom
And my bad simmer within, praying for their days

V: The Bad Always Ends (a poem)
My friends, I place a question unto thee:
How do you think it feels to have truly
no recollection of what it is like to not
be unhappy?

It has eluded me, dear friends, for years, Happiness;
Eventually I fell into Melancholy’s trap.
Like quicksand, its evil embrace refuses to break;
In the end it smothers, in the midst of our panic
to escape from the pit.

Perhaps Happiness too has a trap. One of a sweet
nectar that clings to hearts and pulls us slowly back.
Perhaps of far greater than the dangers of Melancholy.

Two years of agony I endured. Two bereft
of Happiness. And no longer could I reach it –
Melancholy’s trap for me was satisfaction.
And now, my friends, I stand perched on the cliff;
One move will send me to the traps.
Both are deadly. It is the decision of which I
can see as not as bad. Because when time comes by,
The bad always ends, and everything turns to nothing.
But first, it must prolong, and tomorrow my agonies
begin once more; for the thin line between
Happiness and Melancholy is finally wearing out.

"The Curse Of Life"
If there truly exists a heaven above,
A paradoxical paradise it must be
For if it really is where I am from
Why on this damned earth am I here?

Sent to this perverse backward world
Under the reigns of crime and killing;
And life can’t possibly be a gift
For this, and for I was chosen for it

Violence, warfare – result of stupidity
Killing – the pastime of humanity
I would rather die with some dignity
Than be bound by the curse of life

And when I trace my haunted path,
Each turn had led me off the road
And to finally find my way back home
I’m compelled to drown in suffering

I wish I could commit a thousand sins
For Hell would not be worse than this
All I’ve seen and been subjected to
Has sentenced me to self-sacrifice

Violence, warfare – result of stupidity
Killing – the pastime of humanity
I would rather die with some dignity
Than be bound by the curse of life

Violence, warfare – result of stupidity
Killing – the pastime of humanity
I would rather die with some dignity
Than be bound by the curse of life… forever

Life is a curse – so many ways to break it
Come, my dear angels, take me home
Life is a curse – why should I take this?
Come now and take me home with death

I will quench my thirst with poison
And cleanse my soul with cyanide
I will feel the rope embrace my neck
And let my angry blood flow free

The curse of life – what we’re all punished with
The curse of life – the source of all suffering
The curse of life – pushing us to the finish line
The curse of life – but only when we want to live again,
We are dead.

"And No Mourning After" is an instrumental, and as the title implies, it is much less sorrowful/melancholic than the rest of the record.
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on July 11, 2012, 01:21:37 PM
Impressive so far. :o If you want, I'd really love to try my hand at backing vocals or possibly the spoken word parts, but I'm not sure I could promise the best recording quality without a new microphone at least.
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on July 11, 2012, 11:38:21 PM
You know what, you can give it a try with a little sample. I can send it to my friend and see if he can just do some basic production to make it sound better. I mean, I record with an $80 mic that you've (hopefully) just heard raw on "River Of Ice" - doesn't sound very professional at all; but it can be turned into the quality you heard on the Liquidator cover I sent you, so who knows? :P

However, places where I can confirm I'd definitely need backing vocals/spoken word are:
1. The Finnish spoken word in "His Final Stretch Of The Journey." Mic quality doesn't even matter here, because I plan to use a phone-like effect on those.
2. The "as... I... float..." chant at the end of "River Of Ice." Again, mic quality really doesn't matter here because it's supposed to be pretty atmospheric.
3. The final stanza of "In Thy Name," in spoken word
4. Once I get the vocal melodies finalized, I'd like a group chant on the "May death do us part" lines on "Do Us Part."

I still haven't figured out how I want to execute the long poem at the end of "A Chronicle Of Time" yet; mainly because that song is a monster to work with and I haven't even gotten close to composing the music for the final part, and thus don't know what kind of mood will suit it. If I can, I'd have multiple people narrating, like on Nightwish's "Song Of Myself."

Background noise needs to be pretty minimal, though. Even though I can do noise removal in Audacity myself; if there's too much background noise, the effect tends to distort the vocals themselves.
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on July 28, 2012, 10:20:11 AM
So, it's less than two weeks until I get to see Megadeth live for the first time. Here are the facts:

1. In June, the shitty organizer held a draw for early bird ticket buyers, of which I am one. 20 names from the draw would win Meet N' Greet passes. I was never entered into the draw because I didn't buy my ticket from the big corporation and went to another authorized seller/distributor instead.
2. In early July, the shitty organizer said that Cyber Army members would get a "priority queue" at the show for Meet N' Greet.
3. In late July, I caught Dave Mustaine in the Megadeth chatroom and asked him if he knew anything at all about Meet N' Greet in Singapore. He said it was up to the organizer.
4. Last week, the shitty organizer announced the winners for the draw and ignored my message to them asking them about the priority queue.
5. A few days ago, someone made a publicly-posted complaint to the shitty organizer on Facebook and to save face they finally answered. They then "made it clear" by saying that the only people authorized to Meet N' Greet were the 20 winners of the draw that I never had a fair chance in despite being an early bird ticket holder. They then said that Meet N' Greet never had anything to do with the Cyber Army.
6. I protested against this with other Cyber Army members. The shitty organizer then said that it is up to Megadeth's management.
7. The Cyber Army members then contacted Dave McRobb, who said it is now up to the band to decide Meet N' Greet status.
8. The band is already in Manila.

Needless to say, I'm extremely pissed off because I was short-cheated out of Meet N' Greet opportunities... twice; and that there will likely be no resolution to this situation until everyone is nice and happy with the money from this concert they're chasing after. And in essence, for Meet N' Greet - the band says it's up to the organizer, the organizer says it's up to the management, the management says it's up to the band. And I still have eleven papers to go for my exams to finish before the show. That's not related, but just when you think it can't get any worse, right?

Either way, I hope I can get to the venue in the morning on the day with my concert buddy so we can at least enjoy front row seats. She's free to go, but I need to ask for permission to skip school. :| And they had better play "Poison Was The Cure." Although there won't be a mosh pit, because Singaporeans are the lamest audience in the world from my experience at Lamb of God/Judas Priest.

And right now, the only organizer better than the one promoting this show is the one that did jack shit to get Megadeth into China and have now caused them to cancel their show there. :roll:
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on July 29, 2012, 12:44:03 AM
Oh, wow... :shock: I have no idea what to say except that I at least hope you can go.  The whole mess over the Meet and Greet passes is beyond ridiculous, but yeah...


The next concert on my list would be on October 27th, with Epica playing the Palladium in Worcester (I'd go the show in New York City, but it's on a weekday and Worcester is on Saturday).  But because it'd involve a long bus ride home for a weekend and my class schedule isn't completely set for this semester, and I can't even revise it for another couple weeks, I don't even have the ticket yet.  I really hope I can get it to work out, though, or if I do end up with Friday classes, I suppose I could skip...
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on July 29, 2012, 01:03:39 AM
Well, I had a nice gossip with the owner of the record store I go to, the same place where I bought my tickets. With the guy usually being the merch seller at every metal (and non-metal... I think he sold merch for Lady Gaga), he's worked with the organizers before. He claims they are "completely screwed up," that they "always say things that get them fucked in the end," and that he hopes he will never work with them again. I can see where he's coming from. :roll: I'm tired of how much they keep equivocating, and everyone else is too.

On the bright side, he's holding a big clearance sale of CDs along with the tour merch that includes the band's full discography at the show so I'll be able to get some cheap Megadeth stuff. I still need to buy physical copies for Killing Is My Business, The World Needs A Hero, and the Cryptic Writings remaster, which I prefer over the original I've acquired.

Awesome you get to see Epica. :) The bands (besides Megadeth; in the case Amorphis and Orphaned Land after watching their live DVDs :P) I really want to see barely even tour the States, so no chance of them coming anywhere near here. :lol:
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on August 01, 2012, 05:24:22 AM
As I expected, I've been cheated out of Meet N' Greet ops. Twice, too, because the organizer was supposed to fucking tell the distributor to collect my details but they didn't. After pages after pages of complaints, this is all they had to say:

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To all, this is blown out of proportion. Megadeth is not replying because they do not want to meet! We will stop trying too. This is getting way out of hand. We have been calling and knocking and getting negative answers from the management
yet we keep trying because initially it was for 50 pax and they changed and capped it. Do we have to even explain given some promoters will just not allow fans to comment and posts or even delete their posts? We are going to stop wasting our resources calling US lines to check about the status. We had initially wanted to allocate the remaining 4 pax for meet and greet for there are some of the 20pax who have not replied with their details but this is just getting too malicious. We shall go as per the bands Management that there will be no more additional meet and greet except for the ones selected by LVP. The meet and greet will stand for the finalised selected who will be emailed. Please check your emails.
And in their entire history as a concert promoter, they have never used the word "sorry" even once. Nice to see them being butthurt because of valid complaints. How can it be unreasonable or "out of hand" for Cyber Army members to ask what the fuck happened to the priority queue you fucking promised them?! Thanks to these shitbags, I probably won't even enjoy seeing my favorite band.

Only in Singapore. Only. In. Singapore.
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on August 09, 2012, 03:09:13 AM
Megadeth Encore Singapore (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDmHr9hwzK4#ws)

Finally, a video of the "Holy Wars... In My Darkest Hour... The Punishment Due" medley in its entirety. I personally like the D tuning (although that may be from me playing permanently in D tuning on my own guitar :lol:) a lot; but clearly Dave's voice STILL isn't as good as I thought it would be. And I don't know how this camera picked it up, but I couldn't hear a single damn thing that Chris played that night. :roll:
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on October 23, 2012, 10:04:21 AM
TAW, I don't know if you've already found out, but the long-awaited new Wintersun album has just been released. Well, the first half of it, anyway. Unfortunately it has no amazing solos from Jari Mäenpää (apparently that's reserved for Time II), but I can definitely see now why this thing took six years to make. But just let this song speak for itself.

Wintersun - Sons Of Winter And Stars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SigGeUbwtRA#ws)

Must say Time I is most likely the strongest candidate for my favorite album of the year; especially since 2012 has been, for the most part, lackluster in terms of metal releases (for me, at least). Hopefully the world doesn't actually end on December 21 this year - 2013 promises new albums from a whole bunch of my favorites: Megadeth, Amorphis, Stratovarius, Kalmah, Omnium Gatherum, and of course Time II from Wintersun - if it actually gets released instead of being delayed till 2020. :lol:
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on October 24, 2012, 03:21:54 PM
Damn, the link got taken down already? :shock:


Anyway, I'll give them a listen some time soon.  But with the Epica concert on Saturday, I'm basically trying to get much more of a feel for the opening acts at the moment so I can enjoy more of the show.
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on October 24, 2012, 11:05:49 PM
Well, in that case:

Insomnium - One For Sorrw (2011) [Full-Album] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5EAoQ0XfT4#)

EDIT: And also, this one should probably be harder to find and take down:

Wintersun - Sons of winter and stars - Live rehearsal @ Sonic Pump Studios 1080p (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2p9PsVD9Ho#ws)

It's actually mixed a little better than the actual album IMO, anyway. :lol:
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on October 29, 2012, 09:45:28 AM
Well, I would've written up this review yesterday, but it was kind of hectic trying to pack after I woke up late, the bus's wi-fi was very limited and by the time I got back to the dorm, it was very late and I fell asleep almost instantly.  But Epica lived up to their name the other night. :P That concert was awesome, and the whole weekend has definitely been the break I needed.

The meet and greet was done beforehand, although I didn't really get as much time to chat as I was hoping.  It basically overlapped with the signings, which in my case included the booklets for all five Epica albums plus Prison of Desire.  Mark liked the fact that I had all the albums, some of the other band members chuckled because I had an After Forever album thrown in, but I tried to justify it by saying I had to go through hell to find that album.  Mark confirmed that they were having trouble trying to rerelease the earlier material.  Ended up having a photo taken later where I tried to surprise the band with a death growl... I think Mark and Ariën joined in, but in the photo, it looks like I might have caught Simone off guard. :P

The show was great starting with Blackguard right at the beginning, who I'd never heard before but was pretty impressed by.  Really liked some of the occasional humor in the show, too.  Blackguard made a potshot at what would've been the opening act, some band with the weird name "Destiny Potato"... Something tells me I wouldn't have been happier with that lineup. :lol:

Since I was busy, I unfortunately didn't get the chance to get too familiar with any of the opening acts, but I did give System Divide a bit more of a listen than the others.  They were probably the heaviest of the opening acts, and also had the least keyboards or classical elements, but they were pretty interesting in their own way (and a bit funny, saying the song "An Intoxicating Affair" was "about Lady Gaga's underwear" :P).  Some of the opening acts were running the merch stands later in the show, which gave me a chance to chat and get an additional picture with their female singer, Miri Milman, and she suggested I send her a recording sample for advice on technique, which is great. :o

Insomnium was pretty good too and Alestorm was crazy awesome, but both were also a nice break for me to conserve energy for Epica's set.  I wanted to avoid doing too much screaming and shouting before Epica went on, but unfortunately, the concession stand also ran out of bottled water during Alestorm.  In hindsight, I should've just held on to the bottle and refilled it with tap water, but now I'm paying for it.  All I know is I need to do more to check out these bands later, because there were too many new songs that I didn't really get to take in.

Epica, on the other hand, was great.  I got much closer to the stage with them than any set, where I'd stayed off the main floor.  Nothing weird like mosh pits, which was nice. (There were some for Blackguard and crowdsurfing for Alestorm, but somebody I talked to said that she'd been to a show where they were moshing to Nightwish...) There were tons of older songs in the set, and three of the five album-closers, which was definitely unexpected.  I guess the best way to sum up just how surprising their set was would be their setlist, huh? :P

Karma
Monopoly on Truth
Sensorium
Unleashed
Martyr of the Free Word
Serenade of Self-Destruction
The Obsessive Devotion
Storm the Sorrow
Quietus
Sancta Terra
The Phantom Agony (with an unexpected disco-like twist on the chorus! :lol:)

Cry for the Moon
Blank Infinity
Consign to Oblivion

Tried to sing along with Simone at the top of my lungs for most of the songs (I only really forgot the lyrics to "Serenade"), but I was definitely a lot louder when I was following along with Mark, because the grunts were translated into a gravelly shout that I can only produce when I'm that desperate to be heard.  That's what kills my voice any time I come back from a show with a sore throat, but even in the second half, my singing range also took a hit.  A day and a half later, I'm still trying to get my voice back, but hey, at least I had a great time, right? :lol:

Also walked away with a lot of merch.  Got a new key ring that I can use to replace the Megadeth one, two matching oversized wristbands, the "Martyr of the Free Word" T-shirt (was a little unsure about it first because I didn't really want to have the "freedom of speech" line written on the back taken out of context), plus a few CD's.  Epica was selling all the studio albums, even the early ones from Transmission Records, but they also had The Classical Conspiracy going for as low as $15 so I had to have that.  Other purchases were The Conscious Sedation by System Divide and Quarterpast by MaYaN.

Pretty good night, all in all.  Now I just need to get my voice back. :D
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on October 29, 2012, 10:29:17 AM
I just saw pictures of the entire New York City subway shut down today; reminded me of how lucky you are to still be able to go to the concert. :P

Particularly awesome should be the opportunity to meet the band and get seven damn albums signed. I don't need to bitch about how I got shortcheated with Megadeth one more time, but those that didn't weren't even allowed to get ANYTHING signed (once again, I'm probably flying to Taipei next time to see a band I really want to see). As for the set... I wouldn't like it because I'm just slightly familiar with their three most recent albums and not at all with the first two; but I guess Simone, being the queen of headbanging, would make up for that. :lol: I can only imagine "Martyr Of The Free Word" live being one of the highlights? :D

And as for the opening acts... It seems that we draw further apart once again, because System Divide is my least favorite of the acts. :lol: Although, what, with the harsh male vocals and high-range female vocals, not surprised they were made an opening act for Epica. :P I know that Insomnium is a spot-on band live with emphasis on tight playing, but I can imagine the fun one would have seeing the band that is Alestorm live.

Glad you had a fantastic time!
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on October 29, 2012, 11:47:46 AM
Actually, I think the song that made the night was either "Consign to Oblivion" or "The Phantom Agony." I'm not really that familiar with their typical live setlists, but I was hoping for more than just "Cry For the Moon" from the first two albums, or any song from "A New Age Dawns." Hearing "Sensorium" out of nowhere (and near the beginning of the set, when I still had most of my voice) was a wonderful surprise.  It just kept getting better with "Quietus" and "The Phantom Agony" was a really fun one with the unexpected disco lights and drums on the chorus. :lol:

So it's either "The Phantom Agony" or "Consign to Oblivion." I can't really decide which was better, but then again, having three out of the five awesome album-closers in the setlist was more than I could ever ask for.

As for System Divide, I understand I'm kind of in the minority.  The people I hung out with for part of the night didn't seem to like them all that much, either.  But one thing I really like is the variety that having Epica as the headliner lends itself to, because all four of the opening acts were at different points on the spectrum around Epica itself, so they can unite a lot of fans with different tastes.  It really worked to their advantage, too, because apparently their last concert in Worcester was in the Palladium's much smaller stage upstairs rather than the main one.
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on December 05, 2012, 10:16:34 AM
I don't know if you still listen to much Strato, TAW, but the details for their new album, Nemesis are out:

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=183196 (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=183196)

I'm not a fan of that artwork at all, but I will say that it definitely matches this new sound Stratovarius is presenting. They have been hinting at a stylistic shift to something slightly darker and edgier. This new sample and what I heard from their new drummer tracking for the album do captivate me, though. It's clearly very different from Elysium but certainly not in a bad way to me. I suppose that 11 tracks hints at no 20-minute epic like Elysium, though.
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on December 05, 2012, 08:04:40 PM
Well, to be fair, Elysium still only clocked in at about an hour.  So adding in two five-minute tracks but keeping around the same length otherwise is still possible... I'm probably reaching a bit on that one and they probably would've mentioned a superlong track if there is one, but it's possible. :P

But yeah, the cover at least seems to convey the sound change.  Maybe it'd be more of a modern epic or something, but I dunno. (Though I feel like the blatant fanservice with the nude angel was a bit much. :|) I'm hoping these changes won't be a turn for the worse, because Elysium is probably my favorite album by them at this point.
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on December 06, 2012, 01:59:16 AM
Well, Elysium's my personal favorite too. :P At least one of the perfect points about that album seems to have been carried over to this new one from what I can hear: the production. I'm personally looking forward to hearing this "darker, heavier" Stratovarius in February, but maybe that's just because this clip is reminding me of "New World Shadows" by Omnium Gatherum, one of my current favorite songs - it's got that same electronic feel going on with the keyboards. Right now, the only downside I see to this new sound is that the guitars aren't the focus and are used more as percussive instruments as I can already hear in the "Unbreakable" sample.
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on December 13, 2012, 03:43:49 AM
So apparently Orphaned Land is going into the studio for another album.  According to Kobi, there won't be any grunts on it, but it's not a permanent change of direction, just one to fit this new music in particular.  Not much else to say about it at the moment, except yay for not having to wait until like 2017 :P
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on December 13, 2012, 03:57:49 AM
Jesus, I switched over to this window just after having looked at that post. :lol: I suppose one cause for concern is all-too-frequently made Orphaned Land-Opeth comparison; because for Opeth, losing growls in their most recent album meant a sudden (and unexpected for fans, I guess) switch from their progressive metal with some death growls formula to an intentional warm, fuzzy, 70's progressive rock record. Then again, Opeth also made an abrupt stylistic anomaly by eschewing growls and making an acoustic album (Damnation) in 2003, and the band's fans ended up hailing it as one of their best; so I can definitely see speculation on this new Orphaned Land record going both ways. :?

Either way, at the end of the day; it could suck or be a masterpiece with or without growls. Knowing Orphaned Land, I lean more towards "masterpiece" in my speculation. I could actually see something like Damnation being made - a softer, shorter offering, rather than another 80-minute album. EDIT: Although, now that I think about it, does that mean I might have to wait ANOTHER six years to finally hear Matan Shmuely on an Orphaned Land album? :o That guy is a beast on the drums, and admittedly I'd be disappointed if he didn't get to show off what he can do on this next one.
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on December 17, 2012, 04:48:46 AM
Stratovarius - Unbreakable from the new album "NEMESIS" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9XbEjJeyeQ#ws)

Looks like the full song has been released for Finnish radio and someone put it on YouTube. Not bad at all... :o I'm just going to say this is the darkest the band has ever sounded since Dreamspace and that the midsection beginning at about the 2:50 mark is pretty epic. It's kinda weird seeing something the band put out something like this after Elysium, but who's to say that's a bad thing until we hear the full thing?
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on February 15, 2013, 04:30:17 AM
Since I already ordered my copy anyway, I decided it couldn't heard to give Stratovarius' new album Nemesis which has already leaked in its entirety a little pre-listening before getting the physical copy and just get some of my thoughts about it out. My opinions can always change, but these are some first thoughts on the album.

First of all, Nemesis does not come close to beating Elysium as my favorite Stratovarius album and what in my opinion is their best work overall. Most of of the reviews I've seen of this album have critics hailing this as a really good one, some even going as far as "This is the best Strato album since Visions!" I really don't see it, honestly. Maybe it's just the perhaps all-to-common fallacy in this genre that heavier is automatically better. Nemesis is definitely the darkest and heaviest Stratovarius have ever sounded, even taking to account the earliest of their albums. But so what?

All right, the positives first: the new style of riffing definitely works, and I'm picking up on a lot of thirds harmonies (key to Iron Maiden and Swedish melodeath bands) which I love. Matias Kupiainen delivers many excellent riffs - one personal highlight for me is the crazy opening riff of "Halcyon Days" - but seems to hold back with the solos on quite a few of the songs here, which is something I thought I would note. I'm not usually one to whine about the lack of solos, but when you have a guitarist like Matias in the band; it seems like a waste of his talent. Other than "Halcyon Days," I'm also really enjoying the opener, "Abandon"; and the track that follows it, "Unbreakable." All three of those songs have incredibly infectious choruses and probably the best rhythms. The title track, "Nemesis" is also noteworthy.

I've also noticed the inclusion of a lot more electronic, perhaps also industrial, elements on the album. I think they work well at times (such as the verse of "Unbreakable") but at others seem strange and out-of-place (the midsection of "Halcyon Days"); personally, I think they work best on the title track. The guitars, keys, and vocals sound good (apart from maybe the vocal effects on "Stand My Ground") sonically; but the drums are really bothering me. The way they've been produced... this is a big step back from the way they sounded on Elysium, which I think is one of the best sounding albums I've heard. My biggest gripe is that the crash cymbals sound like they had a budget of $20 and got the completely cracked cymbals! As a drummer, I know exactly what a cracked cymbal sounds like (much shorter sound and very trashy) and I hear that sound every downbeat. I have no idea what's up with that, but it really bothers me. The drums are also too loud in the mix, which becomes evident in the softer sections.

Elysium was perfect in the sense that it was well-produced and covered the entire spectrum of Stratovarius - from the addictive, mid-tempo power metal anthems; to the Strato-typical slow, groovy, 6-7 minute track; to the ballads; to the quintessential lightning fast song; to the long, epic title track at the end of the album. Nemesis seems very homogenous in character compared to its predecessor, with most of the tracks here following the tempo set by "Unbreakable." The lightning quick song (okay, now I'm definitely starting to miss Jörg Michael) and long epic are both completely omitted from the formula here; and the closest thing you'll get to that slower, groovier track (like "Soul Of A Vagabond" or "Lifetime In A Moment") is "Castles In The Air." Nothing else from here really sticks into my head as much as "Unbreakable" (which I admit is a fantastic song), "Halcyon Days," and "Abandon," of which two out of three were already released prior to the album's release date, do.

The final verdict? Unlike Elysium, which was a compact package summarizing Stratovarius with fantastic production and quality songwriting; Nemesis is a relatively disappointing effort that ultimately sounds bland as it lacks variety, turning it into an hour of fairly similar songs. Despite this, there are gems here and it could always grow on me as just an enjoyable, easy listen rather than a challenging but fulfilling one.

Summary of good and bad points:
+ The heavier, almost melodeath-influenced riffs still manage to work in Stratovarius' music
+ The guitars tuned to D standard (or C#, I can't really tell) have helped Timo Kotipelto stay comfortable in his new, lower vocal range
+ Performances from all members are still good

- Matias Kupiainen does not play to his amazing potential
- Drums are produced annoyingly loud and the cymbals sound awful
- Electronic elements are a tasteful addition in some cases, but don't always work and are perhaps sometimes overshadowing the guitars
- There is a lack of variety, something that had set Stratovarius aside from many other power metal bands IMO
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on February 23, 2013, 01:14:20 PM
Finally got around to giving each track a listen now, actually.  I'm sure my opinions will change after a few more listens, but listening to each track other than "Unbreakable" for the first time, anyway...

The overall new direction for Nemesis kind of reminds me of Delain's new direction with We Are the Others.  The only difference is the downtuning and the electronic influences seemed to distract more from Delain's original sound while still fitting those new songs, but there's a sort of synergy between the new changes and Stratovarius's basic sound.  So it sounds new, but it still sounds like Stratovarius where with Delain, my biggest gripe was that the symphonic elements practically disappeared.

The other thing I noticed is that Rolf Pilve seems like an okay drummer, but there's really nothing that stands out a whole lot.  I definitely don't know as much about drums and the technical details, but I'm not hearing as much character in his work as with Jörg Michael's drumming.  Though I suppose it might be unfair to compare those two since Rolf's new and Jörg left his mark on TEN Stratovarius albums in 16 years... He's got time to improve if he stays with the band, so I guess we'll see if he finds more of his own style.

Totally agree on "Halcyon Days" being one of the best tracks.  The crazy riffs and the choirs worked well, but the electronic influence did sound a little off.  But man, those riffs...

Sometimes the tone of a song just strikes a chord with me, and that was the case for "Fantasy." From a technical standpoint, it might not be very impressive, but there was something nice and catchy about it, and the keyboards worked especially well there.

So far, though, my favorite might actually be "Out of the Fog." Like any good 7-minute+ tracks, it doesn't seem to drag, and I heard a lot of nice chugging riffs, proof that Timo can still sing some pretty high notes (even if they're not as high as on Episode or Elements), and a fine solo that you somehow missed... :P

I wasn't particularly thrilled with "Castles in the Air," but the darker sound seemed to work for it.  But you're right that there doesn't seem to be a lot of variety on this album.  This song kind of sounds like part of "Elysium," but doesn't really provide the listener with a lot of variety.  It's the closest analogy I can make, since it doesn't even sound downtempo enough to compare to "Lifetime in a Moment" or "Somehow Precious."

The electronic bits seem to really work much better on "Dragons," which is another nice and catchy one.  Coincidentally, I'm working on joining a multiplayer league called the Descent Rangers as a member of the Red Dragons team, and this song would be a great theme for the squad if it weren't for the tone of the lyrics.  If it sounded more "I dare you to beat them" then "You're strong enough to defeat them," then I'd use it.

"One Must Fall" didn't really stand out much at all, to be perfectly honest.  The title drop in the chorus was just about the only thing I remember after the first listen.

There's an odd slightly Eastern sound to the intro to "If the Story Is Over" (unless I'm actually hearing a modulated whistle :lol:), and the acoustic guitar and symphonic instruments provide a very nice atmosphere.  Too bad there weren't more of these stylistic departures on the album.  This song certainly sounds like Stratovarius, and really, out of all the albums I've listened to (as of writing this, I haven't gotten around to their self-titled album), I think the only song that doesn't sound like Stratovarius is "Full Moon," which was merely a bonus track anyway.  My only complaint is that the instrumentation seems to be trying to drown out Timo's voice when the heavy guitars and drums kick in, but other than that, I really enjoyed it.  Why wasn't there another calmer song like this?

And at last, the title track, which starts with some nice neoclassical elements I also missed throughout most of the album.  That might be why the electronic parts were iffy throughout... Jens's more classically-inspired synths have always worked on songs like "Blind," "Event Horizon" and of course the instrumentals, but when they start sounding more techno-pop, then there's a chunk of the classic Strato sound missing right there.  One of my other complaints is that the way the song was put together, it sounded like it was closing when the chorus only halfway through started in.  This is why most of Stratovarius's longer songs work but this one didn't really work as well for me: it sort of dragged for the last two minutes, and it wasn't even seven minutes long.  Maybe if the different elements had been put together in another order (perhaps starting with the closing choirs and then building up?), I wouldn't have felt this way.

Overall, I agree that it feels a little "blah" compared to Polarius and Elysium, but granted, the last one was a VERY hard act to follow.  I do like the sound changes for the most part, but I also feel like there's a lack of songwriting variety and that's the big drawback here.  There was catchy stuff, it was just a bit too homogeneous, but as you said, it'll probably evolve into a nice, fun listen over time, especially for me after I give it some time.
Title: Re: \m/ The Heavy Metal Thread \m/
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on March 23, 2013, 07:05:25 PM
*Dusts off the thread*

Well, just finished watching Epica's Retrospect show through LiveMusicStage's streaming service.  So worth the $9 or so that the ticket cost, seeing as I couldn't possibly have flown over to Eindhoven to be there in person.  Definitely a great experience either way, with barely any streaming issues on my end.

There were no less than 25 entries on the three-hour setlist, one of which was a medley of several tracks.  The band had already said there'd be a wide variety of songs and they would be collaborating again with the orchestra and choir they'd recorded The Classical Conspiracy with in Miskolc, Hungary.  But I did NOT expect as many surprises as they threw in on this one.  Acrobatic dancers made a surprising appearance on "Chasing the Dragon" (although they seemed a bit out of place on the heavier part :lol:).  Several covers that first appeared on The Classical Conspiracy were added into the setlist thanks to the orchestra.  There was a new instrumental intro and a brand new song that shared its name with the show.  And there was also a couple amazing guest appearances during the show, which really added to the feel of the tenth-anniversary concert and everything.

Full setlist:

Basic Instinct (new instrumental!)
Monopoly on Truth
Sensorium
Unleashed
Martyr of the Free Word
Chasing the Dragon (with acrobatic dancers)
Presto
Never Enough
Stabat Mater Dolorosa (with Floor Jansen)
Twin Flames (first time played live!)
Serenade of Self-Destruction
Orchestral/choral medley: Feint/Fools of Damnation/Mother of Light/Kingdom of Heaven/Run for a Fall/Deep Water Horizon
The Divine Conspiracy (clipped somewhat for time, but for a 14-minute song rarely played live, it's better than nothing)
Delirium
Blank Infinity
The Obsessive Devotion (they went a long time without playing this one!)
Retrospect (brand-new song!)
Star Wars medley, including The Imperial March
Quietus (with Ad Sluijter, Yves Huts and Jeroen Simons)
The Phantom Agony (complete with the disco breakdown and lights again... yay :lol:)

Cry for the Moon (complete with a crowd sing-along and a phenomenal drum solo outro)
Sancta Terra (with Floor Jansen one more time)
Design Your Universe

Storm the Sorrow (wow, almost left this one out!)
Consign to Oblivion

Tons of surprises on this setlist, suffice to say.  I almost didn't notice "Storm the Sorrow" was missing for most of the concert, but I was so in love with a lot of the unconventional choices such as "Twin Flames," "Delirium" and "Design Your Universe" that it more than made up for the idea that Epica "had to" play certain songs.  There really isn't much I could've asked for that they didn't do, since with three hours and hardly a bad egg in their backlog, the band would've satisfied me with just about anything.  There's really no way around it: Epica is an amazing live band.

I also really liked the livestreaming option, partly because I couldn't possibly afford to be there in person and partly because it put much less strain on my voice to be singing and screeching along from home and not yelling at the gravelly top of my lungs to be heard amidst a crowd. :lol: But it's really an option other bands should consider instead of blaming the internet for every sales loss, and it was definitely very gracious of Epica and LiveMusicStage to offer that for a great price.  I still felt like a part of the experience from thousands of miles away, and it's a nice innovation to really help performers and their audiences.  Definitely made for a great Saturday, that's for sure. :)