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Rate the Temple Layout - Day 35: The Pendant of Kamehameha
« on: January 03, 2014, 02:22:46 PM »
It's been a while since we had the classic "Rating Poll". I thought it would be nice to start 2014 off with another rating poll similar to the ones that GM1 held. This time, I thought it would be interesting to hold a series where we determine the most difficult temple layouts on the show. We always talk about how easy and difficult some temple layouts are. Why not hold a rating thread to figure out the most difficult temple layouts? Just like the past rating threads, you will vote for each temple layout on a scale of 1-10. A layout with a 1 = an easy and cupcake layout while a layout with a 10 = a brutal and difficult temple layout. You can also compare some temple layouts with similar ones also when giving your rating for each layout. I think this could be a fun idea that would hold us over for a good portion of 2014. ;)

We will start off with "The Stolen Arm of Shiva".

Day One - "The Stolen Arm of Shiva"
Artifact Location - Bamboo Forest
Players - Christina and Evan
Rooms Entered - 7
Temple Guard Locations - Cave of Sighs, Observatory


Day 1 - The Stolen Arm of Shiva: 6.00
Day 2 - The Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis I : 5.75
Day 3 - The Paintbrush of Leonardo Da Vinci: 8.00

Day 4 - The Lion-Slashed Jacket of Sacagawea: 7.00
Day 5 - The Comet-Embroidered Battle Flag of William the Conqueror: 7.00

Day 6 - The Missing Eye of David: 7.75
Day 7 - The Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King: 7.50
Day 8 - The Ruby Earring of Benzibab: 3.75
Day 9 - The Discarded Seal of Ivan the Terrible: 10.00
Day 10 - The Helmet of Genghis Khan: 3.00
Day 11 - The Electrified Key of Benjamin Franklin: 5.00
Day 12 - Robin Hood and Marian's Ladder: 1.50
Day 13 - The Golden Earring of Henry Morgan: 8.25
Day 14 - The Snake Bracelet of Cleopatra: 2.67
Day 15 - The Bifocal Monocle of One-Eyed Jack: 6.50
Day 16 - The Golden Stallion of Ali Baba: 7.33

Day 17 - The Snow Cone of Mt. Kilimanjaro: 5.33
Day 18 - The Two-Cornered Hat of Napoleon: 6.33
Day 19 - The Golden Goblet of Atilla the Hun: 8.00
Day 20 - The Golden Cup of Belshazzar: 10.00

Day 21 - The Collar of Davy Crockett: 3.25
Day 22 - The Mystical Spellbook of the Imperial Wizard: 8.50
Day 23 - The Upside-Down Compass of Henry Hudson: 8.33
Day 24 - King Tut's Cobra Staff: 7.00

Day 25 - The Golden Chains of Zenobia: 6.00
Day 26 - The Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean: 7.67

Day 27 - The Snakeskin Boots of Billy the Kid: 4.75
Day 28 - The Stone Head of the Evil King: 6.67
Day 29 - The Silver Cannonball of Grandy Nanny: 4.75
Day 30 - John Sutter & the Map to the Lost Gold Mine: 6.00
Day 31 - The Keys to the Alhambra: 5.67
Day 32 - Elizabeth I's Golden Ship: 6.33

Day 33 - The Sacred Ring of Sultan Suleiman: 7.00
Day 34 - The Useless Map of the Chibcha Chieftain: 7.67
Day 35 - The Pendant of Kamehameha
Day 36 - The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan
Day 37 - John Henry's Lost Hammer

Day 38 - The Dried Apple Half of William Tell
Day 39 - The Imperial Purple Robe of Empress Theodora

Day 40 - The Broken Trident of Poseidon
Day 41 - The Good-Luck Watch of Empress Eugenie
Day 42 - The Leopard-Skin Cloak of Annie Oakley
Day 43 - The Lucky Medallion of Atocha
Day 44 - The Lost Logbooks of Magellan
Day 45 - Galileo's Cannonball
Day 46 - The Secret Battle Plan of Nathan Hale
Day 47 - The Star of Sultan Saladin

Day 48 - The Much-Heralded Helmet of Sir Gawain
Day 49 - Henry VIII's Great Seal
Day 50 - The Enormous Feather of the Me Linh
Day 51 - The War Fan of the 47 Ronin
Day 52 - The Lost Taj Mahal Turban of Aurangzeb
Day 53 - The Lucky Pig of Amelia Earhart
Day 54 - The Moccasins of Geronimo

Day 55 - The Dried Ear of Corn of Sojourner Truth
Day 56 - The Lion-Headed Bracelet of Chandragupta

Day 57 - Blackbeard's Treasure Map
Day 58 - The Crown of Queen Nzinga
Day 59 - The Missing Weather Maps of Charles Lindbergh

Day 60 - The Bone Necklace of the Blackfeet Chief
Day 61 - The Bonnet of Dolley Madison
Day 62 - The Mysterious Manuscript of Mary Shelley
Day 63 - The Jewel-Encrusted Egg of Catherine the Great
Day 64 - The Trojan Horseshoe
Day 65 - The Smashed Printing Plate of Frederick Douglass
Day 66 - The Broken Wing of Icarus
Day 67 - The Mask of Shaka Zulu
Day 68 - The Oracle Bowl of Delphi
Day 69 - The Very Tall Turban of Ahmed Baba
Day 70 - The Diary of Dr. Livingstone
Day 71 - The Ivory Elephant of Scheherazade
Day 72 - Ponce de Leon and the Lost Fountain of Youth
Day 73 - The Lost Love Letter of Captain John Smith
Day 74 - The Mush Pot Hat of Johnny Appleseed
Day 75 - The Metal Beard of the Egyptian Queen
Day 76 - The Milk Bucket of Freydis

Day 77 - The Dragon Lady and the Blue Pearl
Day 78 - Wild Bill Hickok and the Dead Man's Hand

Day 79 - The Applewood Amulet of Emiliano Zapata
Day 80 - The Medal of Sir Edmund Hillary
Day 81 - The Shriveled Hand of Efoua
Day 82 - The Golden Pepperoni of Catherine de Medici
Day 83 - The Enormous Iron Nose Ring of Babe
Day 84 - Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress
Day 85 - The Codebook of Mata Hari
Day 86 - The Jeweled Necklace of Montezuma
Day 87 - The Silver Horseshoe of Butch Cassidy
Day 88 - The Plumed Headdress of Cosa Rara
Day 89 - The Secret Map of the Bandit Queen
Day 90 - The Silver Saddle Horn of Hannibal
Day 91 - The Lost Whale Bone of Pytheas
Day 92 - The Lucky Pillow of Annie Taylor
Day 93 - The Jeweled Scabbard of Sforza
Day 94 - The Helmet of Joan of Arc
Day 95 - The Golden Jaguar of Atahualpa
Day 96 - The Priceless Portrait of the Polynesian Girl
Day 97 - Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat
Day 98 - The Missing Portrait of Hans Holbein
Day 99 - The Pearl Necklace of Gwalior

Day 100 - The Ivory Hunting Horn of Roland
Day 101 - The Bullet-Riddled Handbag of Belle Boyd
Day 102 - Alexander and the Gordian Knot
Day 103 - The Marble Armrest of Xerxes
Day 104 - The Mussel-Shell Armor of Apanuugpak
Day 105 - The Golden Spider Web of Robert the Bruce

Day 106 - The Cracked Crown of the Spanish King
Day 107 - The Treasure of Anne Bonny
Day 108 - The Treasure Map of Jean Lafitte
Day 109 - The Belly Button of Buddha
Day 110 - The Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu
Day 111 - The Mask of the Man in the Iron Mask

Day 112 - The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain
Day 113 - The Silk Sash of Mulan
Day 114 - The Bent Shaving Pan of Jedidiah Smith
Day 115 - The Melted Head of Madame Tussaud
Day 116 - The Walking Stick of Harriet Tubman

Day 117 - The Royal Torque of Queen Boadicea
Day 118 - The Levitating Dog Leash of Nostradamus
Day 119 - The Stone Marker of Leif Erikson
Day 120 - The Lost Lion Tail of Little John
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Re: Rate the Temple Layout - Day 1: The Stolen Arm of Shiva
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2014, 02:25:48 PM »
I gave the Shiva layout a 6. It was kind of a long layout for Season 1, but at the same time it didn't have to be that long if the players didn't take a direct path. Christina and Evan could've avoided the entire central shaft if they used the Troubled Bridge from the Gargoyle Room. That would've saved them a trip through at least two rooms. This layout was pretty winnable, but the players slow speed and poor strategy caused them to come up very short. The Blue Pearl or Lawrence of Arabia team would have success in this layout. In conclusion, this layout was kind of tricky, but it was definitely winnable.

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Re: Rate the Temple Layout - Day 1: The Stolen Arm of Shiva
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2014, 03:05:40 PM »
I also gave it a 6. The layout would've been pretty long anyways even if Christina and Evan didn't scale the central shaft. But it was their own fault for adding extra rooms to their path and moving too slow. Like TRJ said, this layout was pretty winnable, but Christina and Evan just weren't fast enough.

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Re: Rate the Temple Layout - Day 1: The Stolen Arm of Shiva
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2014, 05:33:14 PM »
Shiva finishes with a 6.00.

The next temple run is the run where we spend over a minute in the Chamber. :roll:

Day Two - "The Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis I"
Artifact Location - Quicksand Bog
Players - Katie and Judge
Rooms Entered - 5
Temple Guard Locations - Room of the Ancient Warriors, Shrine of the Silver Monkey


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Re: Rate the Temple Layout - Day 2: The Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis I
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2014, 05:36:42 PM »
I gave the Lily-Crested Crown layout a 6. This layout was very winnable and by no means hard at all for a Season 3 layout. The Orange Iguanas failed pretty badly due to their own incompetence. It should NOT take you over a minute to complete the Chamber. It was a tough room, but no one spent over a minute in there. This layout was pretty identical to "Gwalior", and Dawn and Ryan did much better than Katie and Judge. So Judge and Katie have no excuse to not reach their artifact.  :roll:

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Re: Rate the Temple Layout - Day 2: The Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis I
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2014, 06:10:57 PM »
I gave them a 5. This layout was very easy for Season 3 standards, but Katie blew it, big time. Should've been the Purple Parrots. :roll:

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Re: Rate the Temple Layout - Day 2: The Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis I
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2014, 06:38:18 PM »
I gave the Lily-Crested Crown layout a 6. This layout was very winnable and by no means hard at all for a Season 3 layout. The Orange Iguanas failed pretty badly due to their own incompetence. It should NOT take you over a minute to complete the Chamber. It was a tough room, but no one spent over a minute in there. This layout was pretty identical to "Gwalior", and Dawn and Ryan did much better than Katie and Judge. So Judge and Katie have no excuse to not reach their artifact.  :roll:

You said 6, but the tally says you picked 5. :P

I chose 6 because this run required the team to complete some of the harder objectives with a temple guard just a couple rooms before the Crown. This was by no means an easy run, but it wasn't too difficult either.



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Re: Rate the Temple Layout - Day 2: The Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis I
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2014, 06:43:50 PM »
Wasn't the Chamber door open for Katie during this run too? So she might've been able to avoid the King's Storeroom, unlike the Gwalior team. Both runs are identical layout wise, but Ryan was removed from the Shrine with way more time than Katie did. It was also possible that the Shrine opened from the Quicksand Bog. Another closely identical run was Chandragupta, where Andrea had little problems completing her objectives. Of course, she had a solo shot where the Lily-Crested Crown team didn't. But still, Katie and Judge should've made it to the Quicksand Bog at least. No reason to ever spend over a minute in a room, unless it was a production error.

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Re: Rate the Temple Layout - Day 2: The Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis I
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2014, 06:47:34 PM »
I don't recall any door (other than the King's Storeroom door) opened from the Pit, if that's what you mean. Unless you're confusing it with yet another run, all I saw was the King's Storeroom door open. And even if that weren't the case, the results would've been.... the same thing. Katie still would've been stuck in the Chamber and there would be no chance for victory.

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Re: Rate the Temple Layout - Day 2: The Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis I
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2014, 06:50:35 PM »
I just checked, it was the Gwalior run where the Chamber was the only door open. During the Lily-Crested Crown run, only the King's Storeroom opened. But yeah, the results would've been the same even if the team didn't enter the Chamber. Which is too bad, because Katie was actually moving fast before the Chamber. But her partner was a lost cause anyways.  :oops:

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Re: Rate the Temple Layout - Day 2: The Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis I
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2014, 06:54:51 PM »
I don't recall the Chamber door being opened in the Gwalior run either. And both Gwalior and Lily Crested Crown had the SAME path, and same temple guard location. Am I dreaming here, or did Ryan enter the King's Storeroom first in that temple run? Where just like Lily Crested Crown, that was the only door opened from the Pit. Or maybe it was hard to tell from the rubble Ryan was trying to clear while climbing the Pit walls.

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Re: Rate the Temple Layout - Day 2: The Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis I
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2014, 08:10:57 PM »
Nope, you are right. :P I just checked and the Gwalior layout was identical to Lily-Crested Crown's layout. And the temple guard layout was identical too. The only possible difference that could happen is that the Quicksand Bog might've opened from the Shrine during the Lily-Crested Crown run. But I don't think it did because it never did in either Gwalior or Chandragupta.

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Re: Rate the Temple Layout - Day 2: The Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis I
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2014, 12:47:31 PM »
Lily-Crested Crown finishes with a 5.75. I realized I said I gave this run a 6 in my original post, but I meant that I gave it a 5. ;)

Next up is Katie and Roberto from Leonardo Da Vinci.  :mrorange:

Day Three - "The Paintbrush of Leonardo Da Vinci"
Artifact Location - Tomb of the Ancient Kings
Players - Katie and Roberto
Rooms Entered - 7
Temple Guard Locations - Swamp, Observatory

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Re: Rate the Temple Layout - Day 3: The Paintbrush of Leonardo Da Vinci
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2014, 12:52:16 PM »
I gave Leonardo Da Vinci an 8. This layout was very cheap, even if it was the Season 1 temple that had many easy rooms. The whole "double whammy" in the Swamp with a dead end plus a temple guard was brutal. Not only that, but the Orange Iguanas were forced up the entire central shaft. Seriously, why not have the Treasure Room open from the Swamp? What was the point of that passageway then if it never opened? This layout was very unfair and brutal. Katie and Roberto were NOT a bad team and would have better success with any other temple layout. Although it might've helped if they didn't take a direct path too. But they were from Season 1, so you can't hold it against them. :?

And let's not forget the fact that they brought the EXACT same layout one day later for Stone Marker.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

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Re: Rate the Temple Layout - Day 3: The Paintbrush of Leonardo Da Vinci
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2014, 04:11:46 PM »
I also gave them an 8. This layout was just impossible.