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Re: Analysis and Comparison of Temple Run Contestants
« Reply #150 on: August 15, 2013, 10:06:16 PM »
I honestly think that both Nate and Jay rank on the same level, if not they are interchangeable when it comes to ranking them. You are right though about Jay ranking much higher than Nate in a couple of ranking threads. I actually watched the Queen Boadicea run yesterday and forgot how tough Nate got it. By the time Lissy was taken out, Nate had less than two minutes and only had three rooms completed for him. Nate also had bad luck in some rooms like the King's Storeroom where it was the third pot that had the key and the third hole that unlocked the door to the Ancient Warriors. An by the time Nate finish assembling the Silver Monkey, he had less than a minute left and he still reached the Good-Luck Watch with 15 seconds left.

Jay did very well though also. With 1:30 left, he made it all the way to the Jester's Court in under a minute and got sidetracked by a production error in that room. I think he aligned himself just fine on the middle painting first. If it wasn't for this production error, then Jay would've grabbed the Good-Luck Watch and would've won. Both Nate and Jay were awesome, but I thought Jay was the better contestant a little more. He probably would've done just as good as Nnate if he had the Boadicea layout.
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Re: Analysis and Comparison of Temple Run Contestants
« Reply #151 on: August 15, 2013, 10:10:58 PM »
Also, the Queen Boadicea run usually gets higher rankings than the Empress Eugenie run also. I am not sure if that is because of how slow Janeen was in the Eugenie run, but I have definitely seen Boadicea get more praise. Even when I held the "Rate the Bottom of the Central" shaft run, both Red Sash and Boadicea ranked higher than Eugenie. ;) It is funny because both Boadicea and Eugenie are very similar in many ways. And also, I noticed that the Secret Password door was locked when Nate completed the Silver Monkey. So it just didn't happen in Empress Eugenie. ;)

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Re: Analysis and Comparison of Temple Run Contestants
« Reply #152 on: August 15, 2013, 10:34:08 PM »
I think that the disparity between Jay and Nate is unusual since the two contestants and their runs are so similar.


Next, I'd like to turn out attention to Icarus' Jason. He came just shy of achieving a solo victory, but unnecessarily entered the Observatory and could have exited the temple in a much cleaner fashion. In recent discussions, Jason has received a lot of criticism and even received votes in the "Worst Male Green Monkey Males" thread. Isn't that a bit excessive?

He completed the necessary rooms swiftly and was able to find the key in the Dark Forest to gain direct access to the Shrine. Jason was not the only contestant to backtrack in the temple, but he realized his mistake quickly and headed back to the King's Storeroom before he began to assemble the Stone Column. As far as his exit strategy goes, many other contestants took the same route out (most with equal disappointment). But since he was not alone in descending through the central shaft upon exiting the temple, can we assign more blame on him than other contestants who did the same thing?

And in a similar light, how would we think of Jason and his run if he had scored a one-second victory like Olivia-Emma (Applewood Amulet) or David (Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress)? Would it be a great, nail-biter of a run? Or would the successful one-second nail-biter runs be less exciting since there wouldn't be a "so-close-yet-so-far-away" run to be comparably more disappointed about? Would we still think that Jason could have performed better and won with more time on the clock? Or would we say that he did well and nearly blew it but didn't?

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Re: Analysis and Comparison of Temple Run Contestants
« Reply #153 on: August 15, 2013, 10:44:08 PM »
If Icarus did end up in a one second win, I think this run would get the "Butch Cassidy" treatment where it will get criticism because the win is not as a great as people make it out to be. While Olivia-Emma and David weren't perfect, they did many things right in the temple too that Jason failed to do. Both of those players had solid temple exits too considering the little time they had. Jason had over 50 seconds and still failed to bring the Broken Wing out. This win in general couldn't hold a candle to Emiliano Zapata, Lawernce of Arabia's Headdress, or even Galileo' Cannonball. There were just so many bad things about the Icarus win that it would probably be maligned like Butch Cassidy and Geronimo.

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Re: Analysis and Comparison of Temple Run Contestants
« Reply #154 on: August 17, 2013, 02:15:01 AM »
I was thinking about this the other day, but does anyone think that Kristin from Catherine the Great is overrated? She ranks high in a lot of ranking threads and games. Her layout was not very hard at all either. In fact, it was just one extra room than the "Roland" win. Plus, the other wins that day (Sforza and Benzibab) get quite a lot of criticism even though the Catherine the Great layout was almost as easy. Do you think the reason Kristin gets a lot of praise was because it was the last run ever filmed? I don't think she is overrated, but I want to see how others feel about her.

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Re: Analysis and Comparison of Temple Run Contestants
« Reply #155 on: August 17, 2013, 10:56:39 AM »
I agree with your points about Kristin, and while I think she did a good job in the temple, I feel that she sometimes gets too much praise for her performance. She did have a relatively short and easy path for a Season 3 run, and she had a bit of trouble in the Shrine. However, her head-first dive in the Pit of the Pendulum and her consistent speed, in combination with the fact that it was the final episode of the series, may influence our opinion of this run.

Still, if we are to compare Catherine the Great to other similar Season 3 runs, there seems to be an unfair disparity in favor of the Catherine the Great run. Ivory Hunting Horn had an identical path, with the exception of the Shrine, but it is often stated that that win was "too easy." The Shrine was a room that could eat up a lot of time, but it was only one extra room and Yakerra would have had a minute to complete it if she had to reach the Ancient Warriors. Would Yakerra be a "superstar" contestant if she was forced to complete the Shrine to reach the Ivory Hunting Horn? And unlike Yakerra, Kristin didn't even complete all of the rooms in her path since Kris lasted until the Tomb of the Headless Kings.

Benzibab's layout has received similar criticism as Ivory Hunting Horn, but Annie and Kevin entered the same number of rooms as Kris and Kristin and had a faster completion of the temple. While it is clear that the Shrine was a more time consuming room than the Quicksand Bog, that was the only major difference between the two runs. I mean, Annie and Kris were even removed at the same point in the temple in the same amount of time. And the third guard was not encountered in either run.

Lastly, Jeweled Scabbard of Sforza has been called a good win, but a bit easy. Yes, this team only had to scale the central shaft en route to the Ancient Warriors, but even though that path was one room shorter than the Jewel-Encrusted Egg route, I would argue that it was equally or more difficult. The Jesters' Court had its fair share of dysfunction and the Shrine could trip up contestants, but neither room took a considerable amount of time. And the Dark Forest was a quick room to complete. The Chamber of the Sacred Markers and King's Storeroom, in my opinion, were a harder combination of rooms to have to complete back-to-back. In addition, the Jeweled Scabbard team found their half pendant (even though it was not necessary). Asher reached the Jeweled Scabbard with 48 seconds left and reached the gate with 28 seconds left on the clock. Kristin reached the Jewel-Encrusted Egg with 45 seconds left and reached the gate with 24 seconds left on the clock. In other words, Kristin was equally fast as (or equally slow as) Asher, who has received criticism for not being "quick enough" and should have had more time left on the clock.

Okay, so enough of my rant. I think that Kristin (and Kris) was a good contestant, but when we put it into perspective, she was on an equal playing field as the Benzibab, Sforza, and Roland teams.

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Re: Analysis and Comparison of Temple Run Contestants
« Reply #156 on: August 17, 2013, 12:27:56 PM »
Yeah, I think the reason that Kristin gets a lot of praise is because of her having the last temple run ever on the show. So a lot of people put this win in high regards because of it being the last win. Also, this is like the only Red Jaguars win that was respectable to most people. So Kris and Kristin do get a little more favoritism because of this, a long with being the last temple win on the show. But you're right, all of the players on that production day performed about the same. Even though Benzibab and Sforza do get some flack for being easy layouts, I still like both of those wins. Although I like Sforza a little better than Benzibab. Even if Lacey and Asher's path was simple, they still had to face some tough rooms. And both players did a good job in handling them. The Benzibab kids did a good job also, and Annie and Kevin were really fast contestants. I still place Catherine the Great in my top 5 wins because of how memorable it was and the bias I have towards my favorite team. But I agree with you about your analysis of Kristin and the other players that day. It was a good production day overall.  :mrred:

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Re: Analysis and Comparison of Temple Run Contestants
« Reply #157 on: March 26, 2014, 05:01:10 PM »
Often times, temple run contestants are judged based on speed. It's often said "It's not how you start; it's how you finish." Nonetheless, I think it would be neat to do a comparison to see how "fast" our teams were "out of the gate". Here, I want to alert you to an interesting statistic: how long it took for the front runner to complete their first room passed the Pit of the Pendulum. I'm only covering Season 3 because the rooms in the central shaft never changed throughout the season to alter room difficulty. And I will only be including runs where the front runner was able to complete the objective of that first inner-temple room, not episodes in which the contestant was removed upon entering the room. The number in parentheses under "First Inner-Temple Room" indicates whether that was the contestant's third or fourth room entered, depending on how many entrance rooms were entered.

EpisodeContestantFirst Inner-Temple RoomTime Left on Clock
Bifocal Monocle of One-Eyed JackVeronicaChamber (3)1:23
Comet-Embroidered Battle Flag of William the ConquerorOliviaHeadless Kings (3)N/A
War Fan of the Forty-Seven RoninJeremyHeadless Kings (3)1:58
Much-Heralded Helmet of Sir GawainTiffaniChamber (3)2:02
Lion-Headed Bracelet of ChandraguptaAndreaKing's Storeroom (3)2:03
Lion-Slashed Jacket of SacajaweaLaurenHeadless Kings (3)2:02
Secret Map of the Bandit QueenMiriamHeadless Kings (3)2:13
Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy BeanMikeHeadless Kings (3)2:22
Snow Cone of Mount KilimanjaroCaseyHeadless Kings (3)1:55
Upside-Down Compass of Henry HudsonSherraHeadless Kings (4)1:52
Bent Shaving Pan of Jedidiah SmithIrishHeadless Kings (3)2:02
Marble Armrest of XerxesNoelleHeadless Kings (4)1:44
Smashed Printing Plate of Frederick DouglassJasonChamber (3)2:02
Mystical Spellbook of the Imperial WizardJaredKing's Storeroom (4)1:48
Useless Map of the Chibcha ChieftainHallieHeadless Kings (3)N/A
Golden Spider Web of Robert the BruceChristineKing's Storeroom (4)1:58
Discarded Seal of Ivan the TerribleTravisChamber (3)2:17
Mysterious Manuscript of Mary ShelleyKateChamber (3)2:00
Dried Apple Half of William TellBrettKing's Storeroom (4)1:39
Missing Portrait of Hans HolbeinRachelKing's Storeroom (4)1:40
Ivory Hunting Horn of RolandYakerraHeadless Kings (3)2:17
Royal Torque of Queen BoadiceaLissyChamber (3)1:56
Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate CaptainJessicaHeadless Kings (3)2:24
Enormous Feather of the Me LinhDavidHeadless Kings (3)2:15
Red Sash of Tokugawa IeyasuBrandyKing's Storeroom (3)2:13
Broken Trident of PoseidonKimberlyHeadless Kings (3)2:19
Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis IKatieKing's Storeroom (3)2:18
Mussel-Shell Armor of ApanuugpakAmandaHeadless Kings (3)2:07
Metal Beard of the Egyptian QueenTJHeadless Kings (3)2:21
Mummified Hand of the Egyptian KingMaggieHeadless Kings (3)N/A
Lost Taj Mahal Turban of AurangzebDeanChamber (3)1:56
Melted Head of Madame TussaudNickHeadless Kings (3)2:05
Pearl Necklace of GwaliorRyanKing's Storeroom (3)2:17
Bullet-Riddled Handbag of Belle BoydLeahKing's Storeroom (3)2:14
Lost Whale Bone of PytheasBrittanyHeadless Kings (3)2:15
Dried Ear of Corn of Sojourner TruthEddieChamber (3)2:00
Jeweled Scabbard of SforzaLaceyHeadless Kings (3)2:07
Good-Luck Watch of Empress EugenieJaneenKing's Storeroom (3)1:46
Ruby Earring of BenzibabAnnieHeadless Kings (3)N/A
Jewel-Encrusted Egg of Catherine the GreatKrisHeadless Kings (3)N/A

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Re: Analysis and Comparison of Temple Run Contestants
« Reply #158 on: March 26, 2014, 06:42:30 PM »
Interesting stuff there. Based on that list, Leah, Mike, and Jessica were the fastest, and Janeen, Noelle, and Veronica were the slowest. One comparison I always wanted to do was how long a player truly lasted in the temple. I believe TMH did that when he posted his stats, and I think it would be interesting thing to compare.

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Re: Analysis and Comparison of Temple Run Contestants
« Reply #159 on: March 26, 2014, 08:27:13 PM »
Interesting stuff there. Based on that list, Leah, Mike, and Jessica were the fastest, and Janeen, Noelle, and Veronica were the slowest. One comparison I always wanted to do was how long a player truly lasted in the temple. I believe TMH did that when he posted his stats, and I think it would be interesting thing to compare.

TJ should be a part of that top 3 in place of Leah, at 2:21.  ;)

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Re: Analysis and Comparison of Temple Run Contestants
« Reply #160 on: March 26, 2014, 08:35:42 PM »
One thing I want to point out is that a majority of the contestants (focusing on those who only entered one entrance room) finished their third room with approximately 2:00 left on the clock. For this reason, I think it is unfair to say that contestants who fall in this time zone were "too slow" or worse than "the average Season 3 contestant" and therefore "ruined/blew the run." In particular, I think of Lissy from Royal Torque of Queen Boadicea. She completed the Chamber of the Sacred Markers with 1:56 on the clock, which was the average time. It seems that whenever her episode is mentioned, she "takes the blame" for this run not being a victorious run. In reality, she was right on target in terms of pace. Once she was removed after her third room, Nate did a good job completing the remaining objectives. However, it was the longer-than-average path to the Tomb of the Headless Kings that ended up being their downfall; not their pace or ability to complete rooms. (Just to clarify: this was the only Tomb of the Headless Kings run whose path required the team to complete both of the other central shaft rooms, making it the longest forced path en route to the Tomb of the Headless Kings in Season 3.)

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Re: Analysis and Comparison of Temple Run Contestants
« Reply #161 on: March 26, 2014, 09:49:47 PM »
Lissy actually did a pretty good job in the Chamber of the Sacred Markers. I mean did she complete the room in like 15 seconds or something like that? That was pretty good considering how it took some contestants up to 30 seconds. However, I felt that she took too long before entering the Chamber of the Sacred Markers It took her more than 20 seconds to get out of the Crypt (I guess the temple guard sort of phased her) and then took her another 25 second to get out of the Pit. Rewatching the Queen Boadicea run again, I think I have been a little harsh towards Lissy. But I still think if she didn't stall too much before the Chamber, she would've left Nate enough time to bring the Royal Torque out of the temple. At least Lissy was not as bad as Janeen. That girl was too afraid to even try some of the objectives. If Nate and Lissy had the Good-Luck Watch layout, they would've won that one. Lissy was definitely stronger than Janeen.

Although I have to say Red Sash was slightly tougher than Queen Boadicea. Mostly because of the quirk with the Secret Password door being open from the Shrine. But this layout was still pretty winnable also, and Brandy and Quentin's hesitations cost them.

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Re: Analysis and Comparison of Temple Run Contestants
« Reply #162 on: March 26, 2014, 10:34:47 PM »
Honestly, I always found Royal Torque overrated. I mean, everytime I go into a ranking thread and this episode is up for scoring, everyone gives it perfect 10's and puts it on the same level as Apanuugpak and Lost Hornpipe. To be honest, I wouldn't even give that run higher than a 6. I just find the temple run boring. Besides Nate's performance in the temple, nothing sticks out in the least bit. Yes Lissy was a stronger player than Janeen, but it doesn't make the temple run "amazing" or "excellent" that people make it out to be. I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I really dislike this temple run. I feel like Lissy deserves the criticism she gets, even if she didn't last long in the temple. I know this has nothing to do with personal opinions, but I felt like I should share it anyways. I even prefer Good Luck Watch to Royal Torque, even if this layout was far more winnable.

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Re: Analysis and Comparison of Temple Run Contestants
« Reply #163 on: March 26, 2014, 11:18:54 PM »
I like Queen Boadicea since it was the Red Jaguars best temple loss next to Two-Cornered Hat. And the Red Jaguars did not have very many successful runs. :P But yeah, this temple run is kind of uneventful aside from Nate almost bringing the artifact out of the temple. I have to say that Priceless Portrait is the best bottom of the central shaft run. That temple run was very exciting, especially when Kristen raced along the bottom floor of the temple. That would've been a top 5 episode easily for me if Jim and Kristen won.

And since we are comparing temple runs, how do you guys think Thomas and Veronica would fare if they had another Shrine run from Season 3? Even though they sucked ass in Bifocal Monocle, their temple run was also kind of cruel was the dead end path. What if the Orange Iguanas had the Bandit Queen layout? Veronica wouldn't have to worry about climbing walls in that run at all. Would they have more success than in Bifocal Monocle?

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Re: Analysis and Comparison of Temple Run Contestants
« Reply #164 on: March 26, 2014, 11:21:58 PM »
Yeah, Priceless Portrait was very exciting. Kristen was even closer than Nate to escaping the temple. I find both Priceless Portrait and Good Luck Watch much more eventful and exciting than Royal Torque. I really don't consider Royal Torque "the best Red Jaguar loss ever." Far from it, that title goes to Napoleon. Royal Torque to me is just plain boring.

And I doubt Veronica and Thomas would've won even if they had a Roland layout. Wall climbing problems aside, they were just too slow.