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Re: Episodes with production errors
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2011, 06:36:43 AM »
Here's another one:

The Snow Cone of Mount Kilimanjaro

When Heather applied the Dark Forest key to the magnet hole leading to the Shrine, the golden door opened. However, the blue cabinet door in the Shrine didn't open. That leads me to think this was a production error. What do you think?
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This statement makes the situation unclear to decide. The closed door could have been an instance of that rule, or just gotten stuck shut. We'll never know because the Heather never reached the artifact, which would have revealed the truth.

When Heather uses the key on the key panel, you can hear the "door opening" chime. The golden doors from the Dark Forest opened, but the cabinets in the Shrine remained shut. If this was suppose to be a deadend, then I doubt the golden doors would've opened unless she forced it open.

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Re: Episodes with production errors
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2011, 02:45:24 PM »
The Good-Luck Watch of Empress Eugenie

In the Jesters' Court, Jay tried the middle painting first, but it didn't work. About fifteen seconds later, he went to the middle painting again and it worked. In both tries, he used the same method to hit the buttons. This leads me to think that a production error in this room cost this team the win.



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Re: Episodes with production errors
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2011, 05:34:31 AM »
Here's another one:

The Snow Cone of Mount Kilimanjaro

When Heather applied the Dark Forest key to the magnet hole leading to the Shrine, the golden door opened. However, the blue cabinet door in the Shrine didn't open. That leads me to think this was a production error. What do you think?
"Inside the Temple there are many locked doors and dead-ends..."
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This statement makes the situation unclear to decide. The closed door could have been an instance of that rule, or just gotten stuck shut. We'll never know because the Heather never reached the artifact, which would have revealed the truth.

When Heather uses the key on the key panel, you can hear the "door opening" chime. The golden doors from the Dark Forest opened, but the cabinets in the Shrine remained shut. If this was suppose to be a deadend, then I doubt the golden doors would've opened unless she forced it open.
Well, I guess you've got me there. The chime did play and the lower door did open. My next guess is that the latch that would've released the door did not do so like it was supposed to.

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In the Jesters' Court, Jay tried the middle painting first, but it didn't work. About fifteen seconds later, he went to the middle painting again and it worked. In both tries, he used the same method to hit the buttons. This leads me to think that a production error in this room cost this team the win.
If you ask me, the method he used on the painting was fundamentally flawed. He should have tried the middle painting while facing the wall, so that he could put some more muscle behind pushing the hand actuators.

My guess is that he just didn't depress one of the hand actuators enough on the first try, and that whoever yelled at him during the run told him to try the middle one again.

Now, I'm curious, would the Quentin incident (Quentin getting sent in early) from "The Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu" count as a production error? :?




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Re: Episodes with production errors
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2011, 06:39:00 AM »
Now, I'm curious, would the Quentin incident (Quentin getting sent in early) from "The Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu" count as a production error? :?

I don't think it would, but that would depend on how the second runner is cued to go into the Temple.  If it's just Kirk telling them to go, then I'd consider it a small mistake on Quentin's part before he was stopped.  I'm not sure if somebody else (a producer offscreen or something) is also supposed to signal for them to go, but I doubt it, so that was probably his own error.
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Re: Episodes with production errors
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2011, 06:42:50 AM »
Here's another one:

The Snow Cone of Mount Kilimanjaro

When Heather applied the Dark Forest key to the magnet hole leading to the Shrine, the golden door opened. However, the blue cabinet door in the Shrine didn't open. That leads me to think this was a production error. What do you think?
"Inside the Temple there are many locked doors and dead-ends..."
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This statement makes the situation unclear to decide. The closed door could have been an instance of that rule, or just gotten stuck shut. We'll never know because the Heather never reached the artifact, which would have revealed the truth.

When Heather uses the key on the key panel, you can hear the "door opening" chime. The golden doors from the Dark Forest opened, but the cabinets in the Shrine remained shut. If this was suppose to be a deadend, then I doubt the golden doors would've opened unless she forced it open.
She used her hands to open the door. Besides, the chime is the wrong chime.
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Re: Episodes with production errors
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2011, 06:53:21 AM »
Yeah, as I mentioned elsewhere, Heather did NOT open the door using the key.  I know it looks like she touched the key to the panel for the door, but she would've had to use her left hand to do that considering where she was standing and where the panel was.  But she reached into the holes of both trees with her right hand, and never switched anything (key or otherwise) from one hand to the other.  There was no key and she actually opened the door with her bare hands.  Instead of the door in the Shrine being supposed to open, it wasn't supposed to be openable, same with the door in the Dark Forest.

Yes, that episode would probably still count as featuring a production error.  But it's not that the Shrine door should have opened, but that the Dark Forest door should NOT have been possible to open.
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Re: Episodes with production errors
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2011, 10:45:43 AM »
Yeah, as I mentioned elsewhere, Heather did NOT open the door using the key.  I know it looks like she touched the key to the panel for the door, but she would've had to use her left hand to do that considering where she was standing and where the panel was.  But she reached into the holes of both trees with her right hand, and never switched anything (key or otherwise) from one hand to the other.  There was no key and she actually opened the door with her bare hands.  Instead of the door in the Shrine being supposed to open, it wasn't supposed to be openable, same with the door in the Dark Forest.

Yes, that episode would probably still count as featuring a production error.  But it's not that the Shrine door should have opened, but that the Dark Forest door should NOT have been possible to open.
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Well, its not like those doors weren't easy to open. I mean when Lisa entered the Tomb of the Ancient Kings in "The Keys to the Alhambra", the golden door to the Shrine was already open despite the fact that neither her or Steve even touched them.

And in "The Bonnet of Dolley Madison", Ashlie was able to force one of the doors open also.

But I do agree with the Snow Cone being a production error. I remember someone suggesting that the door was broken in that room, which made it being forced open easier.

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Re: Episodes with production errors
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2011, 01:25:34 PM »
Now, I'm curious, would the Quentin incident (Quentin getting sent in early) from "The Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu" count as a production error? :?

I don't think it would, but that would depend on how the second runner is cued to go into the Temple.  If it's just Kirk telling them to go, then I'd consider it a small mistake on Quentin's part before he was stopped.  I'm not sure if somebody else (a producer offscreen or something) is also supposed to signal for them to go, but I doubt it, so that was probably his own error.

I would imagine that an offscreen producer is supposed to signal the second runner to go, if just going off of the Mummified Hand run.


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Re: Episodes with production errors
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2011, 04:31:47 PM »
Now, I'm curious, would the Quentin incident (Quentin getting sent in early) from "The Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu" count as a production error? :?

I don't think it would, but that would depend on how the second runner is cued to go into the Temple.  If it's just Kirk telling them to go, then I'd consider it a small mistake on Quentin's part before he was stopped.  I'm not sure if somebody else (a producer offscreen or something) is also supposed to signal for them to go, but I doubt it, so that was probably his own error.

I would imagine that an offscreen producer is supposed to signal the second runner to go, if just going off of the Mummified Hand run.
According to an interview I read/saw once, Matt from Silver Horseshoe of Butch Cassidy went into the temple and had to be stopped. Apparently he thought if Paula was caught at least once and NOT twice, he could just go in. So he pretty much had the same problem as Quieten. And they had to refilm Paula going into the Dark Forest because of it.

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Re: Episodes with production errors
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2011, 12:47:31 PM »
The Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu

When Brandy entered the Shrine of the Silver Monkey, the door leading to the Room of the Secret Password was already open, but Brandy ignored it and completed the monkey anyway. I wonder why the door was open. Could this be a production error? And why did she complete the monkey anyway? Just go through the shrine and into the other room.



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Re: Episodes with production errors
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2011, 02:00:06 PM »
The Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu

When Brandy entered the Shrine of the Silver Monkey, the door leading to the Room of the Secret Password was already open, but Brandy ignored it and completed the monkey anyway. I wonder why the door was open. Could this be a production error? And why did she complete the monkey anyway? Just go through the shrine and into the other room.

When she completed the Monkey, the door to the Quicksand Bog opened. And yes, I think it's a production error.

The Secret Password-Pharaoh's Secret Passage door being open without needing to complete an objective in the Smashed Printing Plate run would count, also.


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Re: Episodes with production errors
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2011, 02:33:12 PM »
The Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu

When Brandy entered the Shrine of the Silver Monkey, the door leading to the Room of the Secret Password was already open, but Brandy ignored it and completed the monkey anyway. I wonder why the door was open. Could this be a production error? And why did she complete the monkey anyway? Just go through the shrine and into the other room.

When she completed the Monkey, the door to the Quicksand Bog opened. And yes, I think it's a production error.

The Secret Password-Pharaoh's Secret Passage door being open without needing to complete an objective in the Smashed Printing Plate run would count, also.

I kind of disagree, I think the producers did that intentionally sometimes in order to lower the difficulty in the layout, if that makes sense at all.

For example, Brandy was not required to assemble the monkey at all and could've ran into the Room of the Secret Password, bypassing the Shrine altogether. However, if she decided to assemble the monkey, then the Quicksand Bog door would've opened, allowing her to avoid the Room of the Secret Password. Notice that both the Secret Password and Quicksand Bog had a temple guards, meaning that had she took the Secret Password path, she would've met both temple guards.

And its not the only run with a completed objective either. The Stolen Arm of Shiva, The Mask of Shaka Zulu, Henry VIII's Great Seal, The Walking Stick of Harriet Tubman, The Smashed Printing Plate of Frederick Douglass, and The War Fan of the 47 Ronin all had some sort of completed or half completed objective during the run.

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Re: Episodes with production errors
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2011, 03:44:32 PM »
I don't think the Shrine-Bog door opened in the Red Sash run. If you look closely at that area when Quentin passes by, I think you can see the door still locked.



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« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2011, 05:45:46 PM »
I don't think the Shrine-Bog door opened in the Red Sash run. If you look closely at that area when Quentin passes by, I think you can see the door still locked.

You can see the door open a little bit while Quentin is captured by the temple guard in the Quicksand Bog. I am not sure why Brandy did not use that door in the first place, but she would've bypassed both the Secret Password objective and temple guard. And if the Quicksand Bog door never opened, then that means all three temple guards were unavoidable too (not that it mattered since the team had two pendants, but if they had less than two then choosing the Quicksand Bog would've been the smart decision.)

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Re: Episodes with production errors
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2011, 05:42:05 PM »
How about another production error?

In the season 1 Observatory, the bar that blocked the path for the Treasure/Idols/Orbs room sometimes took forever to raise up once the sundial/light wheel was spun. I think the most notable run where this happened was Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat. If that bar hadn't took forever to raise up, this would've been a solo win. Colleen didn't know what to do because of this and went into the Heart Room, which had a crucial temple guard in it. She then encountered another temple guard in the Treasure Room. We all know what happened after that when Chris went in.



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