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Re: Episode Tournament
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2012, 11:27:29 PM »
Didn't realize there was a poll until now. :P

I said no. It would take too long, not enough people would play, and we already know which runs suck and which ones don't. Sorry.



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Re: Episode Tournament
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2012, 11:32:13 PM »
I originally voted no, for the same reasons you did. Even though the turnout for the "Top 32 wins" bracket was pretty good. I voted "Unsure," as it could work out, but as long as enough people stop by and vote.

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Re: Episode Tournament
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2012, 11:38:44 PM »
Didn't realize there was a poll until now. :P

I said no. It would take too long, not enough people would play, and we already know which runs suck and which ones don't. Sorry.

Actually, it would take the same amount of time as it did for the "Best Legends Win" tournament if we used the format I proposed. It might take longer by 4-5 days at most than the previous tournament. But it definitely would take a little over a month to complete, which isn't very long at all. The only difference is that there will be more matchups in one day. But then again, they are all polls in the first place so it will only take less than 30 seconds to vote. Unless you want to provide feedback, which is always optional even in the original tournament. ;)

And I was thinking that GM1 was doing it on more of the basis for the entire episode rather than temple runs. If we were doing temple runs anyways, I am sure the same four runs from the last tournament would make it to the Semi-finals. There are actually some episodes with bad temple run but with redeeming points in other areas of it. I don't think it is a bad idea to give it a try. ;)


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Re: Episode Tournament
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2012, 12:01:58 AM »
I messed around with the bracket a little bit, and here is what I came up for the first bracket:

http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=436735

These are just 60 episodes that were picked by a list randomizer and then mainly matched up for the tournament. This is just a sample though and obviously the matchups will be mixed up for the official tournament. Since Pirate Captain, Annie Taylor, Egyptian Queen, and Milk Bucket were in the final 8 for the Best Legends Win tournament, they get a first round bye.

The other 60 episodes would be simply placed into the other bracket and randomly matched up.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2012, 12:03:12 AM by The Red Jaguars »

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Re: Episode Tournament
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2012, 06:37:23 AM »
Actually, the seeds were determined by actually the Results of the old Hurt and Heal Legends episodes to make it a fair tourney so this would be like a Legends Style March Madness or something like that. Even though it won't be in March. The Hurt and Heal was probably the best source for the seeding.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2012, 06:48:03 AM by GreenMonkeys#1 »



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Re: Episode Tournament
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2012, 07:06:45 AM »
Didn't realize there was a poll until now. :P

I said no. It would take too long, not enough people would play, and we already know which runs suck and which ones don't. Sorry.
I originally voted no, for the same reasons you did. Even though the turnout for the "Top 32 wins" bracket was pretty good. I voted "Unsure," as it could work out, but as long as enough people stop by and vote.

I was thinking 8 matchups during the 120 round, 64 round, and 32 round; 4 for Sweet Sixteen; 2 for Elite Eight. And one for the Final four and Championship per day



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Re: Episode Tournament
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2012, 11:08:28 AM »
Actually, the seeds were determined by actually the Results of the old Hurt and Heal Legends episodes to make it a fair tourney so this would be like a Legends Style March Madness or something like that. Even though it won't be in March. The Hurt and Heal was probably the best source for the seeding.

You have the right idea by using a list that was created by multiple users votes, but the final list itself is kind of flawed. If you place all the good episodes against each other and all the bad episodes against each other, then the good episodes will end up getting shafted while the bad ones get to advance on. The randomized method ensures that not all of the bad episodes are paired with bad episodes. Sure, you do get lopsided matchups sometimes. But it ensures only the best of the best will win.

Didn't realize there was a poll until now. :P

I said no. It would take too long, not enough people would play, and we already know which runs suck and which ones don't. Sorry.
I originally voted no, for the same reasons you did. Even though the turnout for the "Top 32 wins" bracket was pretty good. I voted "Unsure," as it could work out, but as long as enough people stop by and vote.

I was thinking 8 matchups during the 120 round, 64 round, and 32 round; 4 for Sweet Sixteen; 2 for Elite Eight. And one for the Final four and Championship per day

If you split them into 2 brackets and double up the matchups, then it will take 16 days to complete each bracket. Then the winners of the two different brackets will face off in the finals to determine the best episode. I think that method is better and it will take just as long as the Best Legends Win tournament.

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Re: Episode Tournament
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2012, 11:56:24 AM »
If someone makes a tournament, I'll do it. If not, so be it. It wouldn't be the end of the world to me if the tournament didn't happen, but I'll participate if it gets put together.

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Re: Episode Tournament
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2012, 12:03:35 PM »
If someone makes a tournament, I'll do it. If not, so be it. It wouldn't be the end of the world to me if the tournament didn't happen, but I'll participate if it gets put together.

I'd be all for it too and vote in it. I think doing it on Legends episodes would be a great idea because we hardly ever talk about Legends episodes as a whole.

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Re: Episode Tournament
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2012, 12:40:56 PM »
If we did one, this would be the seeds (1-8 get a 1st Round Bye)

1. Lawrence of Arabia
2. Apanuugpak
3. Pirate Captain
4. Annie Taylor
5. Catherine the Great
6. John Sutter
7. Bandit Queen
8. Freydis
9. Atocha
10. Billy the Kid
11. Buddha
12. Nostradamus
13. Galileo
14. Chandragupta
15. Emiliano Zapata
16. Sforza
17. Egyptian Queen
18. BENZIBAB!!!!!!!
19. Roland
20. Sultan Saladin
21. Ivan the Terrible
22. Sir Gawain
23. Henry Morgan
24. The Trojan Horseshoe
25. Polynesian Girl
26. Queen Boadicea
27. Empress Eugenie
28. Ahmed Baba
29. Dragon Lady
30. Davy Crockett
31. Cleopatra
32. Babe
33. Genghis Khan
34. Napoleon
35. Dr. Livingston
36. Annie Oakley
37. Johnny Appleseed
38. William the Conqueror
39. Aurangzeb
40. Empress Theodora
41. Queen Nzinga
42. Sir Edmund Hillary
43. Egyptian King
44. Chibcha Chieftan
45. Montezuma
46. Charles Lindbergh
47. Belle Boyd
48. Leonardo da Vinci
49. Blackfeet Chief
50. Ponce de Leon
51. The Man in the Iron Mask
52. Alexander
53. Icarus
54. Joan of Arc
55. Henry VIII
56. Scheherazade
57. Jedidiah Smith
58. Gwalior
59. Geronimo
60. Belshazzar
61. Kamehameha
62. David
63. Judge Roy Bean
64. Tokugawa Ieyasu
65.  :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
66. Dolley Madison
67. Sultan Suleiman
68. Atahualpa
69. Henry Hudson
70. Magellan
71. Leif Erickson
72. Wild Bill Hickok
73. Hannibal
74. Benjamin Franklin
75. Imperial Wizard
76. Pecos Bill
77. Butch Cassidy
78. Mulan
79. Catherine De' Medici
80. Mata Hari
81. 47 Ronin
82. Poseidon
83. Shaka Zulu
84. Sacagawea
85. Captain John Smith
86. Atilla the Hun
87. Zenobia
88. Anne Bonny
89. Madame Tussaud
90. Clovis the First
91. Evil King
92. Harriet Tubman
93. King Tut
94. Amelia Earhart
95. Efoua
96. Shiva
97. Sojourner Truth
98. Ali Baba
99. Xerxes
100. Hans Holbein
101. Mary Shelly
102. Pytheas
103. Frederick Douglass
104. Delphi
105. Cosa Rara
106. Jean Lafitte
107. Robert the Bruce
108. Nathan Hale
109. Elizabeth I
110. Me Linh
111. Little John
112. Blackbeard
113. Grandy Nanny
114. Spanish King
115. William Tell
116. John Henry
117. Mt. Kilimanjaro
118. One-Eyed Jack
119. Khan
120. Alhambra

This choice is up to you if we should do this.

Actually, the seeds were determined by actually the Results of the old Hurt and Heal Legends episodes to make it a fair tourney so this would be like a Legends Style March Madness or something like that. Even though it won't be in March. The Hurt and Heal was probably the best source for the seeding.

You have the right idea by using a list that was created by multiple users votes, but the final list itself is kind of flawed. If you place all the good episodes against each other and all the bad episodes against each other, then the good episodes will end up getting shafted while the bad ones get to advance on. The randomized method ensures that not all of the bad episodes are paired with bad episodes. Sure, you do get lopsided matchups sometimes. But it ensures only the best of the best will win.

Didn't realize there was a poll until now. :P

I said no. It would take too long, not enough people would play, and we already know which runs suck and which ones don't. Sorry.
I originally voted no, for the same reasons you did. Even though the turnout for the "Top 32 wins" bracket was pretty good. I voted "Unsure," as it could work out, but as long as enough people stop by and vote.

I was thinking 8 matchups during the 120 round, 64 round, and 32 round; 4 for Sweet Sixteen; 2 for Elite Eight. And one for the Final four and Championship per day

If you split them into 2 brackets and double up the matchups, then it will take 16 days to complete each bracket. Then the winners of the two different brackets will face off in the finals to determine the best episode. I think that method is better and it will take just as long as the Best Legends Win tournament.

First of all I don't know where you got the bad episodes vs bad episodes it's gonna be good episodes vs bad episodes or average vs average in the first round according to my seeding. I was thinking like a March Madness way of a brackets but TRJ's idea for a bracket is really good, I could see the ideas merging together



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Re: Episode Tournament
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2012, 06:01:37 PM »
This would be the bracket if we did the tournament

That link doesn't bring up a bracket... it brings up the "Bracket Maker" home page/log in screen.

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Re: Episode Tournament
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2012, 06:14:56 PM »
I'll get that problem fixed Here  Just click on Championship Bracket when you get there
« Last Edit: November 12, 2012, 06:20:07 PM by GreenMonkeys#1 »



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Re: Episode Tournament
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2012, 08:01:47 PM »
This would be the bracket if we did the tournament

That link doesn't bring up a bracket... it brings up the "Bracket Maker" home page/log in screen.

This is how the first bracket would look like (fixed the link).

http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=436735

But GM1 has his own bracket now, but that was just a sample of my idea.

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Re: Episode Tournament
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2012, 08:12:54 PM »
I still think that a random generator would be more conducive than using a predetermined seeding, since the seeding already ranks the episodes. There wouldn't be any surprising match ups, and the final standings of the episodes are already defined, based on the way that bracket is structured. By formatting the bracket to have the #1 go against the #120 in the first round, it is obvious that the #1 team is going to win. If you continue that pattern throughout the bracket, the top half will move on each round, until the final match up is #1 versus #2. That isn't so exciting or enticing. At least with a random generator, there is a chance for some match ups to be more exciting and for the later match ups to be not as obvious.

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Re: Episode Tournament
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2012, 06:29:09 PM »
So you're saying that with my bracket, that the finals no matter what will always be Lawrence of Arabia vs Apanuugpak



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