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Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on September 10, 2006, 04:30:21 PM
Well, the Purple Parrots are widely known as the loser team. They made it to the temple the least of all 6 teams by a considerable margin. So, being the Purple Parrots fan that i am, i finally decided to look into this. So here's all the Episodes that Purple lost the temple games organized by season:

Season 1:
Elizabeth the I's Golden Ship (scored a 1/2 pendant
The Golden Cricket Cage of Kahn (scored 1 pendant)
The Lucky Pig of Amelia Earhart (scored a 1/2 pendant)
The Golden Cup of Belshazzar (scored a 1/2 pendant)
The Golden Chains of Zenobia (shut out)
The Golden Jaguar of Atahualpa (tie breaker loss)
Robin Hood and Marian's Ladder (shut out)

(Wow, look at all those "Golden" things! :shock: The only win on that list is Robin Hood and Marian's Ladder. The only unsuccessful grabbing is the Golden Jaguar of Atahualpa. The rest are losses....pretty pathetic losses too... I wonder if they would've been better if they were Parrot runs.)

Season 2:
The Silver Horseshoe of Butch Cassidy (tie breaker loss)
The Applewood Amulet of Emiliano Zapata (tie breaker loss)
The Diary of Dr. Livingstone (don't remember))
The Lucky Pillow of Annie Taylor (tie breaker loss)
The Crown of Queen Nzinga (scored a 1/2 pendant)
The Very Tall Turban of Ahmed Baba (scored 1 pendant)
The Golden Goblet of Atilla the Hun (tie breaker loss.... i think)
The Bonnet of Dolly Madison (don't remember)
The Levitating Dog Leash of Nostradamus (tie breaker loss)
The Priceless Portrait of the Polynesian Girl (scored a 1/2 pendant)

(Well.... that's pretty tragic for the Parrots. 5 of those are wins... look at all those tie breaker losses! :evil:  Not to mention all of those episodes are very exciting.... or at least noteworthy).

Season 3:
The Enormous Feather of the Me Linh (tie breaker loss)
The Good-Luck Watch of Empress Eugenie (shut out)
The Lilly-Crested Crown of Clovis I (don't remember)
The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain (scored 1 pendant)
The Lost Taj Mahal Turban of Aurangzeb (scored a 1/2 pendant)
The Marble Armrest of Xerxes (tie breaker loss)
The Melted Head of Madame Tussaud (scored a 1/2 pendant)
The Missing Portrait of Hans Holbein (shut out)
The Much-Heralded Helmet of Sir Gawain (scored 1 pendant)
The Smashed Printing Plate of Fredrick Douglas (shut out)

(Wow.... look at all those losses... it's really a shame considering they only went to the temple 2 times this season. The only instance that i'm glad the Parrots lost is for the Hornpipe episode. Those Green Monkeys were amazing.... and maybe for the Helmet episode.)

In total, the Purple Parrots lost 8 tie breakers (although it could be 7 because i can't remember if the Golden Goblet episode came down to a tie breaker or not).

As much as they lost, i stand by my Purple Parrots. I always loved them and always will. Sure it's frustrating being a Purple Parrot fan and knowing how close they were so many times, but you gotta stand by your team. :P
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on September 11, 2006, 02:04:16 AM
1st of all the pearl necklace of gwalior was not a purple parrot loss. unless you count losses at the moat than you list is going to be much bigger.

2nd of all everybody needs an underdog

3rd every time the purple parrots won at temple it was after beating a power house team (green or silver) how many of the other teams can say that
everytime orange won at temple it was after beating either purple or red. so the purple parrots are a valuable reasurce cause if it werent for them than the orange iguanas would only have one win
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on September 11, 2006, 03:13:49 AM
Quote from: ""outer space""
1st of all the pearl necklace of gwalior was not a purple parrot loss. unless you count losses at the moat than you list is going to be much bigger.


Whoops! Editted that. Thanks. :P

But just think about if those Orange Iguana wins were Purple Parrot wins! :D
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on September 11, 2006, 12:06:07 PM
yah there would be 6 purple parrot wins and the orange iguanas would have the lucky medalion of atocha. if it weren't for the purple parrots losing to the orange iguanas than the orange iguanas would only have one win. so the orange iguanas really look up to the purple parrots. they gave them 3/4ths of their wins
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on September 11, 2006, 12:12:22 PM
oh and you forgot the diary of docter livingstone
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on September 11, 2006, 12:24:06 PM
Quote from: ""outer space""
oh and you forgot the diary of docter livingstone

Damn it! I knew that one was a Purple loss as well but i was really unsure so i didn't include it!

DAMN IT! It was another season 2 win! :x

The Parrots really came on strong in season 2. Part of the reason why it's my favorite season. :wink:

EDIT: Added the Diary of Dr Livingstone.
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on September 11, 2006, 04:33:41 PM
you also forgot the bonnet of dolly madison
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on September 11, 2006, 04:38:13 PM
DAMN IT! I was gonna include that one too! :x

I honestly thought though, n'ah, they couldn't have lost THAT many times.

That was a good temple run too.... The Purple Parrots could've easily won that episode too. They probably wouldn't have had that trouble in the Dark Forest. :wink:
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: tss1011 on September 11, 2006, 08:17:04 PM
I'm not a Purple Parrots fan, and I'm not sure they really would have done better (if they were truly superior teams, they wouldn't have lost the temple games).  Out of those episodes you listed, the only one where I really would have liked to see the Parrots go to the temple is "The Marble Armrest of Xerxes", and that's because Zac's brother was on the team.
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on September 12, 2006, 03:00:34 AM
your right that was like the easiest tiebreaker ever. " what was xerxes throne made of?" oh come on its in the title for crying out loud. kirk said the awnswer 2 seconds before the question was asked.
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on September 12, 2006, 04:05:06 AM
Quote from: ""tss1011""
I'm not a Purple Parrots fan, and I'm not sure they really would have done better (if they were truly superior teams, they wouldn't have lost the temple games).  Out of those episodes you listed, the only one where I really would have liked to see the Parrots go to the temple is "The Marble Armrest of Xerxes", and that's because Zac's brother was on the team.

What about the Cricket Cage of Kahn? Anyone woulda been better than those two. :?
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: tss1011 on September 12, 2006, 05:10:24 AM
Quote from: ""outer space""
you right that was like the easiest tiebreaker ever. " what was xerxes throne made of?" oh come on its in the title fro crying out loud. kirk said the awnswer 2 seconds before the question was asked.


Hey now, it could also be "driftwood"... :lol:
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Turbo Barracuda on September 12, 2006, 10:29:28 AM
look at this on the bright side, because they hardly get to the temple, i believe they have the highest temple winning percentage
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: tss1011 on September 12, 2006, 11:17:58 AM
Quote from: ""The Purple Parrot""
What about the Cricket Cage of Kahn? Anyone woulda been better than those two. :?


Ah yes, forgot about good ol' Cricket Cage (which I still have not seen).  Yes, Purple might have been a million times better, although, again, I have to question a team that couldn't even beat the inept Silver Snakes in the temple games.  Maybe John and Tia were stronger there than they were in the temple run...
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on September 12, 2006, 11:25:51 AM
Quote from: ""The Blue Barracuda""
look at this on the bright side, because they hardly get to the temple, i believe they have the highest temple winning percentage
N'ah, Silver and Green had better temple victory-to-run percentages than the Parrots, but had Purple won some of those episodes, it was almost garunteed that they would've won the temple... Come On... Robin Hood & Marian's Ladder? That was going to be a victory no matter who went to the temple. :?

Quote from: ""tss1011""
Quote from: ""The Purple Parrot""
What about the Cricket Cage of Kahn? Anyone woulda been better than those two. :?

Ah yes, forgot about good ol' Cricket Cage (which I still have not seen).  Yes, Purple might have been a million times better, although, again, I have to question a team that couldn't even beat the inept Silver Snakes in the temple games.  Maybe John and Tia were stronger there than they were in the temple run...

I've seen that episode a buncha times. John and Tia were actually a solid team in the temple games. The Parrots had won a pendant, but they lost the team game because the Snakes had kept a solid lead throughout the entire game. :?
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on September 12, 2006, 11:39:02 AM
actually they and the red jaguars had the highest win ratio in the 3rd season 50%. so they did accomplish something.
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on September 12, 2006, 01:17:39 PM
Yeah, that's just the 3rd season though.... and that's only out of 2 runs. >.<
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Olmec on September 12, 2006, 02:00:39 PM
*cracks up*
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on September 12, 2006, 04:07:39 PM
um acctually the purple parrots have the highest win ratio for items retreived by a girl, and they're the only team in which every time they went to temple with one pendant they won. and of the five, they probalby have the record for best team run in which a girl sucessfully brings out the item
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on September 12, 2006, 04:40:20 PM
Quote from: ""outer space""
um acctually the purple parrots have the highest win ratio for items retreived by a girl, and they're the only team in which every time they went to temple with one pendant they won. and of the five, they probalby have the record for best team run in which a girl sucessfully brings out the item


Blue had 3 out of 5 wins by girls. (Two of them were by "Jennifer's")

EVERY time they went to the temple with one pendant!?!? :shock: They only went to the temple with one pendant ONE time. I mean i guess that qualifies as every time... but it's only one.

There's only 5 team runs where a girl brought the item out? Seriously?.... Metal Beard of the Egyptian Queen is the one you're talking about obviously... but The Jewel-Encrusted Egg of Catherine The Great was a team run with a retrieval by a girl and that had way more time on the clock than the Metal Beard.... same with The Map To The Lost Goldmine.


I mean, i love my Purple Parrots, but i gotta keep it real. :(
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on September 13, 2006, 11:26:12 AM
look they're not losers. yah i win
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on September 13, 2006, 11:35:16 AM
Quote from: ""Olmec""
*cracks up*


Totally missed this...

You got something to say?... BITCH! :evil:


Just kiddin. :P
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Turbo Barracuda on September 17, 2006, 12:31:43 PM
Quote from: ""The Purple Parrot""
Quote from: ""The Blue Barracuda""
look at this on the bright side, because they hardly get to the temple, i believe they have the highest temple winning percentage
N'ah, Silver and Green had better temple victory-to-run percentages than the Parrots, but had Purple won some of those episodes, it was almost garunteed that they would've won the temple... Come On... Robin Hood & Marian's Ladder? That was going to be a victory no matter who went to the temple. :?



I stand corrected
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: TBombMadeEZ on September 17, 2006, 06:33:36 PM
I was always wondering why they were the Purple Parrots.

Now I know, without the oxygen going to the brain from choking all the time, they eventually just turned purple.

:D
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: tss1011 on September 17, 2006, 07:52:23 PM
Oh, SNAP!
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on September 18, 2006, 02:52:57 AM
Quote from: ""TBombMadeEZ""
I was always wondering why they were the Purple Parrots.

Now I know, without the oxygen going to the brain from choking all the time, they eventually just turned purple.

:D


well that explains why they always lost
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on September 18, 2006, 04:11:26 AM
BITCH PLEASE!  :roll:  You did not just crack a joke on the Purple Parrots. :roll: :(
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: TBombMadeEZ on September 18, 2006, 08:20:06 AM
All I have to say...

"Now she's just gotta get the head and jam it on there and she's got the golden pepperoni!  7 seconds, jam it on! She's in the room, she's in the password room!!!  GET THE PEPPERONI!  GET THE PEP.. AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!"

THAT'S choking.
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on September 18, 2006, 08:38:40 AM
Rofl, THAT.... i dunno what that was.... but it's one of the reasons i love the Purple Parrots. :lol:
Title: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: PurpleParrotFan on September 18, 2006, 08:00:00 PM
I'll join you defending them...we can doubleteam :)
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 12, 2011, 07:39:45 PM
Yeah, I'm standing by the Purple Parrots too. They had so many tie breaker losses, it was awful. Being a PP fan can suck, but they're still my favorite team and always will be.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Headless King on June 12, 2011, 08:12:04 PM
If we're going by win-to-run efficiency, the Orange Iguanas sucked way more.  4/25 amounting to 16%.  Let's not forget that even in one of their victories, the frontrunner DROPPED his pendant and his partner had to toss it back to him. (The Lucky Medallion of Atocha)

But yeah, the Purple Parrots lost a LOT of tiebreakers.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 12, 2011, 08:35:08 PM
You're lucky THK. Your favorite teams are the Silver Snakes and the Green Monkeys, teams that had better success than the other four teams.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 12, 2011, 09:16:11 PM
Yeah, I'm standing by the Purple Parrots too. They had so many tie breaker losses, it was awful. Being a PP fan can suck, but they're still my favorite team and always will be.
I agree, I'm also standing by the Purple Parrots too. Even though they are indeed, a very unlucky team.

If we're going by win-to-run efficiency, the Orange Iguanas sucked way more.  4/25 amounting to 16%.  Let's not forget that even in one of their victories, the frontrunner DROPPED his pendant and his partner had to toss it back to him. (The Lucky Medallion of Atocha)

But yeah, the Purple Parrots lost a LOT of tiebreakers.
At least the Orange Iguanas HAD temple appearances. Even if their lose/win ratio was the worst.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 12, 2011, 09:23:17 PM
The Purple Parrots were like the red-headed stepchild team of Legends. They had the fewest temple appearances and the fewest victories on the show.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on June 13, 2011, 03:31:52 AM
Legends was an elimination-type game show, with the Temple as a bonus round. While the bonus round is always the most challenging, keep in mind that the majority of the show has to do with staying in the game. If there were more Purple Parrot teams that made it to the Temple, would it not be possible for there to be a whole lot more Purple Parrot losses? I gotta go with PPF and say that the # of victories/# of Temple Runs ratio is lesser in comparison to the # of Temple Runs/# of Temple Games appearances ratio.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Headless King on June 14, 2011, 01:45:58 AM
You're lucky THK. Your favorite teams are the Silver Snakes and the Green Monkeys, teams that had better success than the other four teams.

The thing is, the first time I watched the show, I immediately picked the Silver Snakes without knowing anything.

And in fact, I originally hated the Green Monkeys because every other episode I saw, they kept beating the Silver Snakes.  What really changed my mind about the Green Monkeys was when I saw The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain.  Jarrid and Jessica were awesome.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Headless King on June 14, 2011, 11:39:42 AM
Legends was an elimination-type game show, with the Temple as a bonus round. While the bonus round is always the most challenging, keep in mind that the majority of the show has to do with staying in the game. If there were more Purple Parrot teams that made it to the Temple, would it not be possible for there to be a whole lot more Purple Parrot losses? I gotta go with PPF and say that the # of victories/# of Temple Runs ratio is lesser in comparison to the # of Temple Runs/# of Temple Games appearances ratio.

Good point. Many people have tried scoring systems to rank the teams, but most of them are just based on their performance in the temple.  I propose a new one to see if it changes anything.


For each episode:
1 point for passing the Moat (1/2 point if they get one member across)
            The first team across gets an extra 1/2 point
2 points for passing the Steps of Knowledge (if they don't make it, 1/2 point for each question they got right)
            The first team down gets an extra 1/2 point
            If a team sweeps the first three questions, they get an extra 1/2 point on top of that
Points in the Temple Games equal to the number of pendants they won
1 extra point for making it to the temple
            If they win with a shutout, they get another extra point
1/2 point for finding the half-pendant in the temple (if applicable)
1 point for grabbing the artifact
            At my discretion, I can still award losing teams this point if they were screwed over by a production fault or an insanely difficult layout
2 points on top of that for returning with the artifact


I think this scoring system would accurately account for how far they made it in the game and how well they did in each round.  I made the Moat only worth one point because 2/3 of the teams make it, and the only reason I give so many extra points for winning in the temple is that only about 1/4 of the runs were successful, so it was a pretty big thing.

Tell me if you guys like it, and I'll go through the episodes and tally it up.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 14, 2011, 12:03:06 PM
I like that method. I have a feeling the Blue Barracudas and Orange Iguanas might be close to the Purple Parrots in terms of who the worst team was throughout the entire show.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 14, 2011, 06:23:09 PM
To back up reply #31 by THK, here's a link with all the win %'s:

http://www.nicklegends.co.cc/featsfactsfirsts.html


The Purple Parrots rank thrid in temple win percentage. Also, the Red Jaguars weren't as good as I previously thought. Two of their wins (that I can think of at the top of my head) were extremely easy, and you know which two I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Headless King on June 14, 2011, 06:38:23 PM
*cough*Shaka Zulu*cough*
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Headless King on June 14, 2011, 06:43:13 PM
Also, I'm going to change my scoring system a little bit.

The team who finishes the Moat first gets an extra 1/2 point
The team who finishes the Steps of Knowledge first gets an extra 1/2 point
If that team wins the Steps by sweeping the first three questions, they get another 1/2 point on top of that
If the team wins the Temple Games with a shutout, it's worth an extra point.
At my discretion, I can still give the Temple Run teams the point for reaching the artifact if they were screwed over by a production fault or an insanely difficult layout.

EDIT: I added these to the earlier post.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 14, 2011, 06:51:32 PM
*cough*Shaka Zulu*cough*

That's one of them. The other is The Ivory Hunting Horn of Roland. Wow, the Red Jaguars are the proud owners of the top 2 quickest temple wins. That makes up for only winning four times, one ahead of the PPs.

The new additions to your scoring method looks good. Are you going to be doing this all by yourself or is help going to be ok like in the guard topic?
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Headless King on June 14, 2011, 07:13:29 PM
It won't be a problem.  It actually gives me an excuse to go back and watch every episode.  Yay!

Also, I further changed the scoring.  The bonus for winning the Temple Games is reduced to 1 point instead of 2, since that's too much considering it's on top of the pendants they already won.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 15, 2011, 02:09:07 AM
*cough*Shaka Zulu*cough*

That's one of them. The other is The Ivory Hunting Horn of Roland. Wow, the Red Jaguars are the proud owners of the top 2 quickest temple wins. That makes up for only winning four times, one ahead of the PPs.

The new additions to your scoring method looks good. Are you going to be doing this all by yourself or is help going to be ok like in the guard topic?

How dare you diss those two wins! They are some of the most quality wins on the show!

Just kidding. Even though I am a big Red Jaguars fan, I will be the first win to admit that we have a bunch of garbage and pathetic runs on the show. I mean we have Blackbeard's Treasure Map, Elizabeth I's Golden Ship, Keys to the Alhambra, the Lost Love Lettero f Little John, etc. We also have some pretty pathetic wins too like the Mask of Shaka Zulu.

Luckily we don't have all the other pathetic temple runs like the Silver Snakes (*cough Golden Cricket Cage of Khan and John Henry's Lost Hammer cough*) ;)
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Headless King on June 15, 2011, 02:34:09 AM
Yeah, Silver Snakes had some doozies.

Really, every team except the Green Monkeys had its fair share of horrible runs.

The only truly pitiful Green Monkey run I can think of is The Dried-Apple Half of William Tell.  Even with as tough a layout as they had, they sucked pretty hard.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Headless King on June 15, 2011, 03:04:42 AM
*cough*Shaka Zulu*cough*

That's one of them. The other is The Ivory Hunting Horn of Roland. Wow, the Red Jaguars are the proud owners of the top 2 quickest temple wins. That makes up for only winning four times, one ahead of the PPs.

Yeah, a lot of the quick runs were just due to a really easy layout.  I think the only under 2-minutes run that deserves recognition is The Ruby Earring of bin-Zibab.  They passed through 6 rooms before getting there, most of them had an objective more than "push a button", including climbing up the slide in the Quicksand Bog.  Plus, both of them had to go in.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 15, 2011, 03:59:59 PM
How dare you diss those two wins! They are some of the most quality wins on the show!

Just kidding. Even though I am a big Red Jaguars fan, I will be the first win to admit that we have a bunch of garbage and pathetic runs on the show. I mean we have Blackbeard's Treasure Map, Elizabeth I's Golden Ship, Keys to the Alhambra, the Lost Love Letter of Little John, etc. We also have some pretty pathetic wins too like the Mask of Shaka Zulu.

Luckily we don't have all the other pathetic temple runs like the Silver Snakes (*cough Golden Cricket Cage of Khan and John Henry's Lost Hammer cough*) ;)
Actually, it's "Lost Lion Tail of Little John." Just thought I'd point out your Kirk-Fogg Up while we're on the subject of bad Purple Parrot runs. ;)

Speaking of Purple Parrots, they didn't score a victory until the end of Season 2. Even the Orange Iguanas scored a victory early in Season 2. Out of all the teams, I think the Purple Parrots had the most pathetic runs. Though the other teams had their clunkers, like you guys have been saying.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Headless King on June 17, 2011, 03:52:04 AM
Okay, I'm almost done with Season 1 for the team ranking.

Surprisingly, the Silver Snakes are NOT leading.  However, they did have a lot of victories late in the season, so that will probably change once I get to those.

Also, it never occurred to me until I did this that the Green Monkeys actually kinda sucked in Season 1 (save for the Temple Runs).
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on June 17, 2011, 04:45:15 AM
How dare you diss those two wins! They are some of the most quality wins on the show!

Just kidding. Even though I am a big Red Jaguars fan, I will be the first win to admit that we have a bunch of garbage and pathetic runs on the show. I mean we have Blackbeard's Treasure Map, Elizabeth I's Golden Ship, Keys to the Alhambra, the Lost Love Letter of Little John, etc. We also have some pretty pathetic wins too like the Mask of Shaka Zulu.

Luckily we don't have all the other pathetic temple runs like the Silver Snakes (*cough Golden Cricket Cage of Khan and John Henry's Lost Hammer cough*) ;)
Actually, it's "Lost Lion Tail of Little John." Just thought I'd point out your Kirk-Fogg Up while we're on the subject of bad Purple Parrot runs. ;)
I think he was going for "The Lost Love Letter of Captain John Smith," given the context, but either way. :P

Anyway, for me, the Purple Parrots are the dark horse.  They're at least in my top three teams, if not second (the other contender is actually the Orange Iguanas), and part of that is because even though they didn't go to the Temple as often, it was more often that a powerhouse team would make it through to the end, dominating every other team in their path.  They might not have had the best track record, but almost every Temple Run with the Purple Parrots in it has something memorable or at least standout in it.  And none of their wins feel undeserved. ;)

I must confess to the Red Jaguars being my least favorite team on the show, however.  Very rarely did they ever seem to have their act together, and with a few notable exceptions (the Season 3 wins and "The Two-Cornered Hat of Napoléon"), most of their runs happened to be attached to my least favorite episodes.  I suppose it's partly association, then, but regardless...

Anyway, I might as well get off my butt and try out something I meant to with TMH's scoring system.  It was going to go on an upgraded version of my own website, but since that might not happen and THK's already at work, I might as well see if his system gets similar results.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 17, 2011, 04:37:29 PM
How dare you diss those two wins! They are some of the most quality wins on the show!

Just kidding. Even though I am a big Red Jaguars fan, I will be the first win to admit that we have a bunch of garbage and pathetic runs on the show. I mean we have Blackbeard's Treasure Map, Elizabeth I's Golden Ship, Keys to the Alhambra, the Lost Love Letter of Little John, etc. We also have some pretty pathetic wins too like the Mask of Shaka Zulu.

Luckily we don't have all the other pathetic temple runs like the Silver Snakes (*cough Golden Cricket Cage of Khan and John Henry's Lost Hammer cough*) ;)
Actually, it's "Lost Lion Tail of Little John." Just thought I'd point out your Kirk-Fogg Up while we're on the subject of bad Purple Parrot runs. ;)

Anyway, for me, the Purple Parrots are the dark horse.  They're at least in my top three teams, if not second (the other contender is actually the Orange Iguanas), and part of that is because even though they didn't go to the Temple as often, it was more often that a powerhouse team would make it through to the end, dominating every other team in their path.  They might not have had the best track record, but almost every Temple Run with the Purple Parrots in it has something memorable or at least standout in it.  And none of their wins feel undeserved. ;)

I must confess to the Red Jaguars being my least favorite team on the show, however.  Very rarely did they ever seem to have their act together, and with a few notable exceptions (the Season 3 wins and "The Two-Cornered Hat of Napoléon"), most of their runs happened to be attached to my least favorite episodes.  I suppose it's partly association, then, but regardless...
Not a lot of people like "The Snakeskin Boots of Billy the Kid" victory. Mainly because everyone found it boring and Tony nearly blew it at the end.

And yeah, I never cared about the Red Jaguars or the Silver Snakes either. Especially in Season 1 where those 2 teams were always in the temple games together. And of course, both those teams made it to the temple the most that season. Though at least the Silver Snakes had some decent temple runs in Season 1. The Red Jaguars had a lot of bad runs and even their victories that season weren't that great. But then again, not a lot of teams were that strong in Season 1 anyways.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 17, 2011, 06:19:47 PM
The Red Jaguars only had four wins, just one more than the Purple Parrots. Although the Jags made it to the temple a lot, most of their runs were disappointing. In fact, they could've been the only team to grab the item from the Dark Forest if the girl from The Missing Weather Maps of Charles Lindbergh wasn't such a slacker and a nimwit. I feel very bad for her partner who blazed through the temple before being taken out of it. I know the Purple Parrots would've won temple runs like this. :P
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Headless King on June 17, 2011, 08:36:47 PM
I think this thread is turning me into a Purple Parrots fan.  :D

As I'm watching the episodes and doing the grading, I find myself secretly rooting for the Purple Parrots because for some reason, I don't want them to end up being the worst.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on June 21, 2011, 12:04:10 PM
How dare you diss those two wins! They are some of the most quality wins on the show!

Just kidding. Even though I am a big Red Jaguars fan, I will be the first win to admit that we have a bunch of garbage and pathetic runs on the show. I mean we have Blackbeard's Treasure Map, Elizabeth I's Golden Ship, Keys to the Alhambra, the Lost Love Letter of Little John, etc. We also have some pretty pathetic wins too like the Mask of Shaka Zulu.

Luckily we don't have all the other pathetic temple runs like the Silver Snakes (*cough Golden Cricket Cage of Khan and John Henry's Lost Hammer cough*) ;)
Actually, it's "Lost Lion Tail of Little John." Just thought I'd point out your Kirk-Fogg Up while we're on the subject of bad Purple Parrot runs. ;)

Anyway, for me, the Purple Parrots are the dark horse.  They're at least in my top three teams, if not second (the other contender is actually the Orange Iguanas), and part of that is because even though they didn't go to the Temple as often, it was more often that a powerhouse team would make it through to the end, dominating every other team in their path.  They might not have had the best track record, but almost every Temple Run with the Purple Parrots in it has something memorable or at least standout in it.  And none of their wins feel undeserved. ;)

I must confess to the Red Jaguars being my least favorite team on the show, however.  Very rarely did they ever seem to have their act together, and with a few notable exceptions (the Season 3 wins and "The Two-Cornered Hat of Napoléon"), most of their runs happened to be attached to my least favorite episodes.  I suppose it's partly association, then, but regardless...
Not a lot of people like "The Snakeskin Boots of Billy the Kid" victory. Mainly because everyone found it boring and Tony nearly blew it at the end.

Well, maybe that particular win wasn't with one of the hardest Temple setups or whatever, but to be fair, the team dominated the elimination rounds, and for me, it would've been a shame if the team lost at the Temple.  They worked pretty damn hard to get there, after all. :P
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 21, 2011, 12:26:42 PM
None of the Parrot temple wins were that good.

The Snakeskin Boots would've been good if Tony didn't make the same mistake Jason did in the Broken Wing of Icarus. Tony's lucky he made it out in time unlike Jason. The layout was also pretty easy.

The Milk Bucket is one of my favorite wins though. Tarrah wasn't the fastest or the smartest, but she was indeed one of the luckiest. First wall painting in the Jesters' Court worked, Forest-Shrine door worked, no guard in the Password room when she took that wrong turn, first clay pot held the key, and a dramatic one second to spare win after she missed the rope and fell in the pit. I wonder if she ever became a cop.....

The Metal Beard was probably the most impressive of the Parrot wins. Both TJ and Randy moved at a solid pace. My only problem with this win was Randy's exit strategy. I guess she wanted to get a good up-close and personal look at every room because she entered all of them!

All three wins were with less than 6 seconds left. Hey, at least I can say we had some success in the temple. :)
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 21, 2011, 03:07:10 PM
None of the Parrot temple wins were that good.

The Snakeskin Boots would've been good if Tony didn't make the same mistake Jason did in the Broken Wing of Icarus. Tony's lucky he made it out in time unlike Jason. The layout was also pretty easy.

The Milk Bucket is one of my favorite wins though. Tarrah wasn't the fastest or the smartest, but she was indeed one of the luckiest. First wall painting in the Jesters' Court worked, Forest-Shrine door worked, no guard in the Password room when she took that wrong turn, first clay pot held the key, and a dramatic one second to spare win after she missed the rope and fell in the pit. I wonder if she ever became a cop.....

The Metal Beard was probably the most impressive of the Parrot wins. Both TJ and Randy moved at a solid pace. My only problem with this win was Randy's exit strategy. I guess she wanted to get a good up-close and personal look at every room because she entered all of them!

All three wins were with less than 6 seconds left. Hey, at least I can say we had some success in the temple. :)

I would have to say that "the Metal Beard of the Egyptian Queen" is my favorite Purple Parrot win also.

Although I have to say I think "the Leopard Skin Cloak of Annie Oakley" was my favorite Purple Parrot episode altogether.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 21, 2011, 03:52:18 PM
In the Cloak temple run, Chandra so got robbed. Just one room away from the Cloak (assuming the Observatory wouldn't open) and she gets taken out of the temple with less than a minute left. I say this run fits in the "hardest temple layout" category thanks to the temple guards. Maybe not the hardest, but definitely one of the cheapest.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 21, 2011, 04:06:22 PM
In the Cloak temple run, Chandra so got robbed. Just one room away from the Cloak (assuming the Observatory wouldn't open) and she gets taken out of the temple with less than a minute left. I say this run fits in the "hardest temple layout" category thanks to the temple guards. Maybe not the hardest, but definitely one of the cheapest.
Well, it was Chandra's own fault for ignoring all the shortcuts. So I think she sort of made it harder for herself. At least Nick took the shrine/shaft passage, and made it to where Chandra left off in the 50 seconds that he had. If Chandra had taken shortcuts, she would have given Nick at least a minute to reach the artifact, if not bring it out.

And yes, if I had to choose a favorite Purple Parrot temple run, Leopard Skin Cloak would get my vote. Chandra and Nick were such a strong team all the way. What with bring first in the moat, first in the steps of knowledge, and winning all three temple games. And they got at least one room away from the Cloak, if only Chandra didn't take that elevator.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 21, 2011, 04:10:16 PM
Yeah, the failure to enter the Shrine via Shaft-Shrine door may have been costly as well. Question is, if she tried that path, would the door open? I know Nick entered that way, but I think that door opened once the monkey was completed. Hmmm, maybe that means it would've worked, idk.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 21, 2011, 04:13:02 PM
Yeah, the failure to enter the Shrine via Shaft-Shrine door may have been costly as well. Question is, if she tried that path, would the door open? I know Nick entered that way, but I think that door opened once the monkey was completed. Hmmm, maybe that means it would've worked, idk.
I'm pretty sure it would. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't. I wonder if the forest/shrine passage would have worked as well. And if Chandra tried that, I wonder if she would have met a temple guard in that room.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 23, 2011, 12:11:55 PM
Also, I just realized this. In season 2, the PPs were tied for 2nd when it came to entering the temple (tied with the Blue Barracudas and three runs behind the Orange Iguanas). 7 times my team entered the temple that season. Take that Silver Snakes and Green Monkeys! :P
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 23, 2011, 04:14:31 PM
Yeah, the Purple Parrots were strong in Season 2. That's partly the reason I like Season 2 the best. Not only did it have a great variety of rooms, it had a great variety of teams too. Even though the Orange Iguanas had 10 temple appearances that season, at least the other teams got a chance.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Headless King on June 25, 2011, 11:16:53 PM
Okay, I'm almost done with Season 2 on the scoring system.

I have located the source of my original hatred of the Green Monkeys.  The Broken Wing of Icarus.

The Silver Snakes were first in the Moat, swept the Steps of Knowledge, but then the Green Monkeys beat them in the tiebreaker and then Jason made one of the biggest screw-ups ever.

If I don't see a good Green Monkey episode really soon, I might start hating them again.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 25, 2011, 11:19:58 PM
This is sort of off topic to the subject. This is about Purple Parrots being losers. If you want, you can start your own topic about scoring systems. If there isn't already one that is.

As for the Parrots themselves, they were definitely the strongest in Season 2. Yes/No?
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Headless King on June 25, 2011, 11:39:28 PM
Well, I'm doing the scoring system to see, based on how the teams did in all rounds, if the Purple Parrots are still statistically the worst.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 26, 2011, 12:16:18 AM
Well their Season 2 performance should help their rankings. I don't know about the other 2 seasons.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Headless King on June 30, 2011, 01:42:30 PM
Well, I finished counting up the points, and unfortunately, the Purple Parrots are still the worst.  :(

The overall standings for some of the other teams did change, though.  Soon, I'll post a new topic to give a detailed report.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 30, 2011, 02:40:56 PM
This is sort of off topic to the subject. This is about Purple Parrots being losers. If you want, you can start your own topic about scoring systems. If there isn't already one that is.

As for the Parrots themselves, they were definitely the strongest in Season 2. Yes/No?

Uhhh, THK is doing a scoring system to see IF the Purple Parrots are indeed the biggest losers.

With THK's most recent post, I am sad. :(
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 30, 2011, 02:45:06 PM
Although it was expected. The PPs could never get things going their way. I think the production crew of Legends had something against purple (and possibly against parrots too) and wanted to put the worst players on this team almost every time. We struggled with the moat, we sucked at tiebreakers, and whenever we did manage to make it to the temple, we sucked there too! Our three wins were with 5 seconds left or less (Snakeskin Boots and Metal Beard should've had more time left, but whatever). Not surprised at all that we were indeed the biggest losers. :(
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on June 30, 2011, 02:50:38 PM
I think it'd be a real stretch to say it was rigged against any team.  Really, it was luck of the draw.  Besides, it's not like there weren't any stronger Purple Parrots teams— almost every single Purple Parrots team that made it to the Temple dominated one round, and quite a few dominated all the elimination rounds.  I'm sure some other teams can never say they did that. :P
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 30, 2011, 03:05:51 PM
Yeah, I agree with TAW. It wasn't that it was rigged to make the Parrots looks bad. It was just a lot of bad luck on the teams part. A lot of that stuff was pretty painful to watch, but I don't think it was intentional by the producers to make them look bad. And I also agree with the other point. The Purple Parrots more than half the time dominated every round just to get there. Out of their 11 temple appearances, they went to the temple with 2 pendants 6 times. That's pretty good for the Parrots. I don't recall a lot of episodes where the other teams accomplished that.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 30, 2011, 03:08:08 PM
I think it'd be a real stretch to say it was rigged against any team.  Really, it was luck of the draw.  Besides, it's not like there weren't any stronger Purple Parrots teams— almost every single Purple Parrots team that made it to the Temple dominated one round, and quite a few dominated all the elimination rounds.  I'm sure some other teams can never say they did that. :P

Yeah, I agree with this post. Most of the Purple Parrots that made it to the temple were pretty dominant teams, with the "Sacred Ring of Sultan Suleiman" and "the Lost Lion Tail of Little John" being the exceptions. "The Bone Necklace of the Blackfeet Chief" and "King Tut's Cobra Staff" should've been temple wins also.

Outside of the temple, I am pretty sure the Purple Parrots made it to the temple games a lot at least. I remember them losing a lot of tiebreakers also, especially to the Orange Iguanas. Some of the most notable episodes they lost tiebreakers in were "the Golden Cricket Cage of Khan" and "the Silver Horseshoe of Butch Cassidy", which probably would've been much better temple runs than they were.  ;)
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 30, 2011, 03:12:18 PM
I think it'd be a real stretch to say it was rigged against any team.  Really, it was luck of the draw.  Besides, it's not like there weren't any stronger Purple Parrots teams— almost every single Purple Parrots team that made it to the Temple dominated one round, and quite a few dominated all the elimination rounds.  I'm sure some other teams can never say they did that. :P

Yeah, I agree with this post. Most of the Purple Parrots that made it to the temple were pretty dominant teams, with the "Sacred Ring of Sultan Suleiman" and "the Lost Lion Tail of Little John" being the exceptions. "The Bone Necklace of the Blackfeet Chief" and "King Tut's Cobra Staff" should've been temple wins also.

Outside of the temple, I am pretty sure the Purple Parrots made it to the temple games a lot at least. I remember them losing a lot of tiebreakers also, especially to the Orange Iguanas. Some of the most notable episodes they lost tiebreakers in were "the Golden Cricket Cage of Khan" and "the Silver Horseshoe of Butch Cassidy", which probably would've been much better temple runs than they were.  ;)
Cricket Cage wasn't a tie breaker loss. The Silver Snakes just went to the temple with 1.5 pendants to the Purple Parrots 1 pendant. ;)

But yeah, I think there were quite a bit of episodes where the Purple Parrots would have done a better job if they went to the temple instead. The Parrots definitely made it to the temple games a whole lot. But most of the time of course, they were pretty unlucky. Especially if they went against the Orange Iguanas in the temple games. Geez, at least the Purple Parrots beat out the Red Jaguars once. But at least the Purple Parrots gave the Orange Iguanas 3/4 of their wins. :P
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 15, 2011, 02:26:56 AM
Going back to this topic, I have to say that the Green Monkeys had to be the best team in the temple:

Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress
The Very Tall Turban of Ahmed Baba
The Lion-Headed Bracelet of Chandragupta
The Applewood Amulet of Emiliano Zapata
The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain
The Mussel-Shell Armor of Apanuugpak
The Jewel-Scabbard of Sforza

Seriously, all of those wins are some quality win in one way or another. There is probably 3 of those runs could even make it into the top 5 runs on the show!

And just look at some of their losses too:
Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat
The Broken Wing of Icarus
The Discarded Seal of Ivan the Terrible
The Dried-Ear Corn of Sojourner Truth
The Good-Luck Watch of Empress Eugenie

All of those runs featured close losses (Lariat, Good-Luck Watch, Icarus) or close artifact encounters. I don't think any team could top the Green Monkeys in the temple.
Title: Re: Are the Purple Parrots truly the biggest losers?
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 15, 2011, 04:08:11 PM
Thanks for the bump. I've always wanted to do this, but I'm gonna quote The Purple Parrot's list in the original post. The bolded text are the corrections I made to the list. Just wanted to fix some of the pendant scores and the scores that weren't remembered.

Season 1:
Elizabeth the I's Golden Ship (scored 1 pendant)
The Golden Cricket Cage of Kahn (scored 1 pendant)
The Lucky Pig of Amelia Earhart (scored a 1/2 pendant)
The Golden Cup of Belshazzar (scored a 1/2 pendant)
The Golden Chains of Zenobia (shut out)
The Golden Jaguar of Atahualpa (tie breaker loss)
Robin Hood and Marian's Ladder (scored 1/2 pendant.... The Silver Snakes won 2 pendants).

Season 2:
The Silver Horseshoe of Butch Cassidy (tie breaker loss)
The Applewood Amulet of Emiliano Zapata (tie breaker loss)
The Diary of Dr. Livingstone (shut out)
The Lucky Pillow of Annie Taylor (tie breaker loss)
The Crown of Queen Nzinga (scored a 1/2 pendant)
The Very Tall Turban of Ahmed Baba (scored 1 pendant)
The Golden Goblet of Atilla the Hun (tie breaker loss)
The Bonnet of Dolly Madison (shut out)
The Levitating Dog Leash of Nostradamus (tie breaker loss)
The Priceless Portrait of the Polynesian Girl (scored a 1/2 pendant)

Season 3:
The Enormous Feather of the Me Linh (tie breaker loss)
The Good-Luck Watch of Empress Eugenie (shut out)
The Lilly-Crested Crown of Clovis I (scored 1.5 pendants.... The Orange Iguanas won 2 pendants).
The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain (scored 1 pendant)
The Lost Taj Mahal Turban of Aurangzeb (scored a 1/2 pendant)
The Marble Armrest of Xerxes (tie breaker loss)
The Melted Head of Madame Tussaud (scored a 1/2 pendant)
The Missing Portrait of Hans Holbein (shut out)
The Much-Heralded Helmet of Sir Gawain (scored 1/2 pendant)
The Smashed Printing Plate of Fredrick Douglas (shut out)

So by looking at this list, The Purple Parrots lost 8 tiebreakers, 5 of them being from Season 2. And their temple game/temple run appearances are as follows:
Season 1: 2/9 (I guess it's not that bad, since most teams in Season 1 were unlucky anyways).
Season 2: 7/17 (I hope I didn't miscount that, but The Purple Parrots sure came on strong here).
Season 3: 2/12 (Man, they are truly pathetic here).
In total: 11/38 (That's.... not very good).
I know we already have a statistics topic that THK started. But I just thought I'd still post the tidbit above.