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Title: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: GreenMonkeys#1 on May 27, 2014, 09:43:32 PM
I'm still confused by this. :?  I'm leaning toward either Missy or Tarrah. I'm ruling out what YouTubers think in Christina because I'm putting the key theory here. It could've been Missy because she was nervous all day, or Tarrah because of editing and her jumping right over the pit... that failed.  :lol:
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: AimYourBrent on May 28, 2014, 02:26:00 AM
I definitely don't think it was Missy. She didn't seem dehydrated and she was full of energy, nervous energy, but energy nonetheless. I feel like throwing up in the middle of a temple run, especially when you're 12-15 years old, would really suck the life out of you.
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 28, 2014, 06:25:20 PM
I am surprised more contestants didn't have sickness problems before reaching the temple. If you read their interviews, each of them had really long production days to sit through. I am not surprised if some of them were sick to their stomach before entering the temple.

As for the mysterious puker, it had to be from S2. According to Kirk, the contestant puked in the Pit and they had to clear all of the balls out to clean it up. This means that it couldn't be any of the S2L3 episodes because they used the Rock Quarry when the Pit was cleared. It was also a female runner that puked, so you can exclude the male only runs. I figured that the female contestant in question puked at the bottom of the Pit, so any runs where the high route was taken can be excluded too. (Like Ashlie from Dolley Madison using the rope). Here are the runs that are possible:

- Butch Cassidy
- Grandy Nanny
- Golden Stallion
- Nathan Hale
- Blackfeet Chief
- Dr. Livingstone
- Captain John Smith
- Stone Head
- Cracked Crown
- Empress Theodora
- Johnny Appleseed
- Emiliano Zapata
- Benjamin Franklin
- Annie Taylor
- Annie Oakley
- Billy the Kid
- Henry Morgan
- Freydis
- Golden Pepperoni
- Nostradamus

These are all of the runs where a female player entered the bottom of the pit. As for my guess, I think it was Tarrah from Freydis. We get that unusual cut in the Pit before she enters the Laser Light Room. I don't think it was Nathan Hale because Kirk said they had to stop the run to clean the Pit. That makes it sound like they continued the run again after they cleaned up. Unless Christina was so sick that they had to postpone the Nathan Hale run for a later time?
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: AimYourBrent on May 28, 2014, 07:34:50 PM
They did have long days but they were hardly longer than your average school day, plus, they were hanging out at Nickelodeon and being on Legends, most of them were probably stoked, especially once they got to the temple. That said, I could see a few people being the bad kind of nervous. Tarrah makes the most sense given the weird edit job.
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 01, 2014, 09:10:51 PM
I honestly think it was Missy. Nervous all day long, very emotional, and Kirk has said in interviews the person started crying and THEN puked in the Pit. It could've happened after Missy grabbed the pillow.
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: AimYourBrent on June 04, 2014, 01:20:09 PM



I tried my best to grab a good image from Tarrah's run with my iPad.

But if you pay close attention as Tarrah exits the pit, it looks like the pit is actually empty as she makes her way into the crawl tube.

That would mean they had stopped the run, taken the balls and padding out of the temple to clean, and just let Tarrah finish exiting the temple as she was bound to win anyway.
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 04, 2014, 03:29:05 PM
Possibly, it could've happened after Tarrah made that leap across the Pit. But then again, same thing could've happened with nervous Missy. The puking incident could've happened after the said artifacts were reached. Tarrah is a possibility, but saying she jumped across the Pit "to avoid the spot where she puked" is reading too much into it. Which is something that was claimed in the past.
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: AimYourBrent on June 04, 2014, 03:34:07 PM
Possibly, it could've happened after Tarrah made that leap across the Pit. But then again, same thing could've happened with nervous Missy. The puking incident could've happened after the said artifacts were reached. Tarrah is a possibility, but saying she jumped across the Pit "to avoid the spot where she puked" is reading too much into it. Which is something that was claimed in the past.

Oh no! I don't think she tried to jump across to avoid the spot where she puked. I think she puked after she slammed her body into the wall on the other side and landed in the pit.

Tarrah deserves more respect than she gets right now. What a trooper! Whether she puked in the Pit or not.
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 04, 2014, 03:50:41 PM
I know, I DID say "Someone else brought that up once." ;) But yeah, Tarrah is a trooper, period. And like I said, Tarrah or Missy (whoever it was) could've puked in the Pit after grabbing the artifact. I still think it might've been Missy though. Due to how emotional and nervous she was all episode. Tarrah really didn't seem that nervous at all.
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: AimYourBrent on June 04, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
She didn't, but I don't think it was nerves that did it to her, I think it was the jolt she took from slamming into the wall the way she did, and then falling into the Pit backwards. If she hit herself the wrong way it could have been like a gut punch and that could have caused it.
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 04, 2014, 10:00:20 PM
Didn't someone theorize the Emiliano Zapata run was retaped from the Observatory because Olivia-Emma puked in the Pit? Only because of the weird editing when Olivia-Emma runs up into the Observatory.
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 04, 2014, 10:14:21 PM
No, that was Renegade duping us into thinking the run was retaped and rigged just to get a one second win. Someone also once thought Aqila was the one who puked in the Pit. Due to awkward editing when she went back for the half pendant, and the stagehands in the Pit during the credits.
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: The Viper on June 05, 2014, 06:28:10 PM
I just checked Freydis, and there were still balls in the pit after she fell into it.
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 05, 2014, 06:41:12 PM
Okay, and what about the spot near the Laser Light Room door? Can anyone get a shot of some missing balls in that section of the Pit?
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: The Viper on June 05, 2014, 06:49:33 PM
I didn't see any missing balls in that area. And there doesn't seem to be any editing when she falls besides the camera change. When the camera changes, Tarrah is still in the same position, and the milk bucket is as well, so I don't think she threw up when she fell.
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: AimYourBrent on June 05, 2014, 06:59:48 PM
Can we compare that same camera angle of another player exiting the pit through the Ledges? I know I saw a few balls near the front of the pit but that was it. The pit still definitely looks empty to me. Just compare it from the high camera angle when she jumps and compare it to when she lands. The camera jump may have been good editing. It wouldn't have been hard to have Tarrah restart from a sitting position against the back wall.

I'm not saying that this is definitely right or wrong. I'm looking for as much hard evidence as possible to support whatever claim is made. The only evidence we have for Missy is "she was nervous".
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: AimYourBrent on June 05, 2014, 07:43:47 PM
Another detail sort of jumped into my head:

Is Kirk a reliable narrator?

We all know how common it was for Kirk to "Fogg up" his announcing duties during production of the show. He would frequently announce rooms incorrectly, among other mistakes.

That made me question just how reliable Kirk's story in the interview was.

Sure enough, I revisited the interview and Kirk "Fogged up" another story where he said (after thinking for a moment) a kid jumped out of the Cave of Sighs. We know that the kid actually jumped out of the Tomb of the Ancient Kings.

So we don't necessarily know if the player actually threw up in The Pit, and if they did, what season it may have been in. Kirk is not exactly the most reliable narrator.
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 05, 2014, 09:02:41 PM
Yeah, Kirk could very well have been embellishing the truth about the so called puke just to make the story more interesting. On the other hand, Kirk mentions this puke incident in two different interviews. One being the radio interview (where Kirk mentions Nick from Great Seal jumping out of the "cave"), and the other being a Buzz Feed interview (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jaimieetkin/legends-of-the-hidden-temple-kirk-fogg-olmec?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=buzzfeed) where the said puker had a panic attack so bad she puked in the Pit. That's quite the thing to make up to mention it in two different interviews.
Title: Re: The "Puke in the Pit" theory
Post by: AimYourBrent on June 05, 2014, 09:07:45 PM
And that's also a good point.

It most likely did happen in The Pit. But it could have also happened in a room like the Swamp or Quicksand Bog that sort of resembles a pit (not The Pit, but A pit).

And the Bog did have those little plastic ball pit style balls in it much like The Pit did.

My question? What might have caused the anxiety attack? A temple guard encounter?

This investigation has gotten more interesting.