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Title: Which 5 losing teams should be given a second chance in the temple? (FINAL POLL)
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 20, 2013, 11:45:07 PM
If you could give three losing teams a chance in the temple, which three teams would you give it to? For this series of polls, I am going to hold a daily poll every day for all the losing temple teams for each team color. You must pick 3 teams you believe that deserve a second chance in the temple. Maybe it was because the team got robbed due to something out of their control, or maybe the team didn't show their true potential. Or maybe the team was really good and would've won in different circumstances.

Results:

Red Jaguars
1. Katherine and Sean ("The Golden Cup of Belshazzar") - 8 votes
2. Lissy and Nate ("The Royal Torque of Queen Boadicea") - 7 votes
3. Gabby and Joe ("Elizabeth I's Golden Ship") - 5 votes


Blue Barracudas
1. Brandy and Quentin ("The Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu") - 8 votes
2. Keith and Rachel ("The Missing Portrait of Hans Holbein") - 8 votes
3. Maggie and Josh ("The Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King") - 8 votes


Green Monkeys
1. Travis and Elisa ("The Discarded Seal of Ivan the Terrible") - 7 votes
2. Leah and Matthew ("The Bullet-Riddled Handbag of Belle Boyd") - 7 votes
3. James and Jessica ("Ponce de Leon and the Lost Fountain of Youth") - 3 votes


Orange Iguanas
1. Hallie and Jared ("The Useless Map of the Chibcha Chieftain" - 7 votes
2. Kendra and CJ ("The Golden Stallion of Ali Baba") - 5 votes
3. Sarah and Josh (" Wild Bill Hickok and the Dead Man's Hand") - 5 votes


Purple Parrots
1. Chandra and Nick ("The Leopard-Skin Cloak of Annie Oakley") - 7 votes
2. David and Eusinia ("King Tut's Cobra Staff") - 6 votes
3. Derek and Sherra ("The Upside-Down Compass of Henry Hudson") - 5 votes


Silver Snakes
1. Jeremy and Elise ("The War Fan of the 47 Ronin") - 7 votes
2. Tina and Robbie ("The Pendant of Kamehameha") - 6 votes
3. Michael and Emily ("The Missing Eye of David" - 5 votes

Which 3 teams would you give a second chance to starting with the Red Jaguars? I will post my opinion in the next post. ;)
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 1 - Red Jaguars
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 20, 2013, 11:49:06 PM
The three Red Jaguars team I would give a second chance to would be the Queen Boadicea, Belshazzar, and Golden Ship kids.

Lissy and Nate were a pretty obvious choice. They were a very strong team throughout and were the closest to pulling off a bottom of the central shaft win. I would totally like to see them have a second go at the temple. They probably would've won in most temple layouts.

Katherine and Sean also deserve a second chance after that bitchy layout. It was not their fault they hit the production error in the Harmonic Convergence. And they looked like a good team too.

The last choice was kind of hard, but I thought Gabby and Joe should get a second chance. They were very slow, but I thought that only traveling through 4 rooms is kind of a rub in the face. Even if it was kind of their fault. They might've not won with a second chance, but at least they would have more time to prove themselves.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 1 - Red Jaguars
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 20, 2013, 11:52:41 PM
Truth be told, a lot of these Red Jaguar teams didn't deserve a second chance. Most of those teams were just plain bad. But I ultimately chose "Belshazzar," "Royal Torque," and "Napoleon" as my teams. My reasons behind those choices:

Belshazzar: Their possible production error and brutal layout, enough said.
Napoleon: Brian and Carly were so close to winning, and I liked seeing them in the temple. Though Carly should've taken more shortcuts.
Royal Torque: Lissy was pretty slow, but Nate did great. If only they had more time, then it would've been a bottom central shaft victory.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 1 - Red Jaguars
Post by: NekoSuave on July 20, 2013, 11:54:11 PM
I'm gonna go with "Belshazzar", "Royal Torque", and "Napoleon", for the same reasons PPF stated.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 1 - Red Jaguars
Post by: The Headless King on July 21, 2013, 12:36:18 AM
Royal Torque of Queen Boadicea - This is an easy one for me.  Overall, I think Nate and Lissy were probably the best Red Jaguars team in the Temple...pretty much ever.  Maybe you could argue Kris and Kristin from The Jewel-Encrusted Egg of Catherine the Great, but other than that, it's not even close.

The Golden Cup of Belshazzar - I had three teams in consideration for the last two spots, but I chose this team because they were more screwed by a brutal layout (which may or may not have been a production fault) than their own mistakes.

The Two-Cornered Hat of Napoleon - While this really should have been a win, or at least closer to a win, I feel like Brian and Carly did the best to deserve a second chance
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 1 - Red Jaguars
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 21, 2013, 12:54:06 AM
I went with Royal Torque, Belshazzar, and Golden Ship. I wanted to pick Stone Marker as well, but I wanted to pick the other 3 more.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 1 - Red Jaguars
Post by: GreenMonkeys#1 on July 21, 2013, 07:03:47 AM
I'm also going to say Royal Torque, Belshazzar, & Elizabeth I
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 1 - Red Jaguars
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on July 21, 2013, 09:14:52 AM
Golden Cup of Belshazzar- Sean and Catherine got caught in a pretty brutal dead end in the Harmonic Convergence, which ate up more than a minute from their run. When Sean entered the Treasure Room, it appeared that that room was locked as well. Even with that delay, they still did a decent job. I would have loved to see how they did in the temple if they didn't run into any dead ends.

Elizabeth I's Golden Ship- Gabby and Joe may have moved rather slowly in the four rooms they entered, but the temple guard layout and absence of a visible half pendant warrants a second chance in my mind.

Keys to the Alhambra- After Steve was removed in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings, the golden doors leading to the temple guard's hideaway and to the Shrine were left open. Lisa found the key in the room and tried in on the appropriate door, but since the Shrine door was already  ajar, she retreated back to the Pit. (The alternative is that the Tomb of the Ancient Kings was a two-room-long dead end, which would have been equally unfair.) Either way, I think Lisa was unfairly not able to show her full potential in the temple, so I would give this team a second chance.


Note: The reason I did not select the Royal Torque of Queen Boadicea is because that team already had the ability to show their full potential in their run. Nothing about their run went terribly wrong, and Nate was given access to the Dark Forest directly from the Shrine. They reached their artifact and were seconds away from a victory already.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 1 - Red Jaguars
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 21, 2013, 03:58:04 PM
And I am going to end the Red Jaguars poll right here. It looks like the three winners are Belshazzar ( 8 ), Queen Boadicea (7), and Golden Ship (5).

I am going to set the poll next for the Blue Barracudas.  :mrblue:
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 2 - Blue Barracudas
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 21, 2013, 04:09:47 PM
The three Blue Barracudas teams I would give a second chance to: Atahualpa, Red Sash, and Mummified Hand.

Atahualpa: They were the only Blue Barracudas failed escape team. Chris looked like a pretty good frontrunner, despite detouring into the Heart Room. Tracy did a good job following up on Chris' path too. I would like to see them get a second try.

Red Sash: This team's layout was very hard. Even though Quentin and Brandy hesitated too much, they were still a great team. They probably would've won in almost any other temple layout. Which is why I think they should get a second chance.

Mummified Hand: I am sure if Maggie and Josh were given a second chance, they would've fared better. The whole pendant dropping incident probably messed their strategy up. It was an honest mistake and they would've probably done better if that never happened.

I was thinking of giving the "Stone Head" team a second chance due to how unfair four snakes Medusa's Lair was. Then I remembered how awful Tony was in the King's Storeroom and how much time he spent in Medusa's Lair. They didn't really deserve it. :roll:
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 2 - Blue Barracudas
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 21, 2013, 04:14:23 PM
My 3 votes: Mummified Hand, Red Sash, and Hans Holbein.

Mummified Hand for the dropped pendant. I didn't think this team was bad. They definitely deserve a 2nd chance.

Red Sash for the layout. This team was pretty good too.

Hans Holbein for the impossible layout. Again, I didn't think this team was that bad. They would've done better with a Gwalior-like layout.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 2 - Blue Barracudas
Post by: The Headless King on July 21, 2013, 06:02:08 PM
The Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King - For me, this is the easy one.  Simply put, I'd like to see how they would've done had it not been for the dropped pendant.  I'd personally go so far as to say they might have won.

The Missing Portrait of Hans Holbein - Keith and Rachel were actually pretty good, but their layout would've been too much even for some of the best teams ever.  I think they deserve a second chance with an easier layout (Not too easy though.  They still have to earn it.)

The Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu - I was going between this and The Electrified Key of Benjamin Franklin.  I decided Brandy and Quentin were a better team because they were even closer to the artifact with a significantly tougher layout, even though they did tack on an extra room.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 2 - Blue Barracudas
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 21, 2013, 06:18:12 PM
Mummified Hand, Red Sash, and Hans Holbein. I was almost gonna say Electrified Key, but I figured the other three teams deserved it more.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 2 - Blue Barracudas
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on July 21, 2013, 06:20:32 PM
Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu- The run was filled with many peculiar things, from the delayed guards in the King's Storeroom and Secret Password to Quentin's early entry into the temple to Olmec's eyes glowing red in the middle of the run. This team was able to make it into the room of the artifact, despite a long path. This was my last choice because Brandy had the ability to either complete the Silver Monkey and avoid the Secret Password or to pass up the Silver Monkey and go directly into the Secret Password, but instead completed the Silver Monkey and went into the Secret Password, thereby using up unnecessary time completing both rooms. Still, it was a hard-fought effort, and they came so very close to the Red Sash.

Mummified Hand of the Egyptian Queen- Maggie's dropping of her pendant was completely accidental, and what is even more incredible about this run is that Josh was able to find it in the Pit. His decision to go straight into the King's Storeroom was wise, but it unfortunately led him on a path that avoided the other half pendant. Had their pendants worked in their favor, they definitely would have reached the Mummified Hand (at least).

Missing Portrait of Hans Holbein- Rachel and Keith faced a ridiculous layout that would have ended up forcing them into at least 11 of the rooms of the temple. By entering the Crypt, they encountered a temple guard and would have had to have entered every room to get to the Portrait. That would have been crazy. Even with the brutal path, they still got to the Dark Forest. I would have liked to see how they would have fared with a different layout.


Note: I was thinking about selecting Lost Logbooks of Magellan instead of Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu because of the Room of Harmonic Convergence dead end and the seemingly absent half pendant. Another reason I was considering that team was that even with the amount of time the dead end took up, they still would have had enough time to reach the artifact if they weren't caught in triple capture.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 2 - Blue Barracudas
Post by: NekoSuave on July 21, 2013, 09:54:11 PM
Red Sash, Mummified Hand, and Hans Holbein, for the same reasons everyone else stated.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 2 - Blue Barracudas
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 22, 2013, 01:09:25 PM
I think we can move onto our next team, which will be the Green Monkeys. The top three teams that everyone felt that should be given a second chance were the Mummified Hand ( 8 ), Red Sash ( 8 ), and Hans Holbein ( 8 ) teams.

Next team we will cover will be the Green Monkeys. I will set up the poll with the teams in a few minutes. ;)
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 3 - Green Monkeys
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 22, 2013, 01:20:17 PM
This was a pretty tough choice because a lot of these teams were good enough for a second chance, but I went with Lost Fountain of Youth, Ivan the Terrible, and Belle Boyd.

Lost Fountain of Youth - Even though they were kind of a slow team and didn't take shortcuts, the temple guard layout was very unfair. They probably would've won if they started in the Cave of Sighs and met all three guards. I don't think a team should ever have to suffer like these two did.

Ivan the Terrible - This one was pretty obvious. Travis and Elisa were flawless in the temple, and they still got robbed by the temple layout. They would've won in almost any other layout!

Belle Boyd - This one was pretty much like "Ivan the Terrible" also. Leah and Matthew were great players that were shafted by a hard layout. Even if they didn't take the most direct path, they put up a great effort.

I would've given  the "Robert the Bruce" and "William Tell" players a second chance if they didn't suck so much in the temple. Since their temple layouts were hard too. But the three teams above were more deserving of a second chance.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 3 - Green Monkeys
Post by: GreenMonkeys#1 on July 22, 2013, 01:36:15 PM
I chose Discarded Seal, Bullet Riddled Handbag, & Ponce de Leon. All impossible layouts
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 3 - Green Monkeys
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 22, 2013, 04:24:22 PM
Discarded Seal, Belle Boyd, and William the Conqueror. I would've chosen Ponce de Leon, but James and Jessica were so slow that they didn't deserve another chance to be honest.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 3 - Green Monkeys
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 22, 2013, 04:28:30 PM
Ponce De Leon, Discarded Seal, and Belle Boyd for their difficult layouts alone. I was tempted to pick Mystical Spellbook in Ponce De Leon's place because that layout was difficult too, but Ponce De Leon had the cheap temple guard placements.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 3 - Green Monkeys
Post by: The Headless King on July 22, 2013, 06:00:38 PM
The Discarded Seal of Ivan the Terrible - Easy choice.  Easily one the most difficult layouts ever, but they still damn nearly did it.

The Bullet-Riddled Handbag of Belle Boyd - While Leah and Matthew and weren't the best team ever, they were still a great team.  The biggest reason I chose this is because the layout was so difficult that I doubt they would've beaten it even if they had taken the most efficient path.  They probably would've gotten to the bag, but not out with it.

The Golden Spider Web of Robert the Bruce - Christine and Jeremy were actually a pretty decent team, and their only real big mistake was missing the half-pendant (though Jeremy really should've won the other half in the Temple Games).  Plus, even if that hadn't been a problem, the layout would've screwed them anyway.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 3 - Green Monkeys
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on July 22, 2013, 11:41:05 PM
Ivan the Terrible and Belle Boyd were pretty obvious choices for me since both teams were fast, strong teams who faced gruelingly long layouts. For my third choice, I went with Empress Theodora because the team came within inches of the artifact, but did not reach it due to the Mineshaft elevator stalling.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 3 - Green Monkeys
Post by: NekoSuave on July 23, 2013, 12:12:56 AM
For my first two choices, I'm going for Ivan the Terrible and Belle Boyd, for the same reasons everyone else stated. For my third choice, I'm going for the Mystical Spellbook. Its layout was dickish (what's with Season 3 and dickish layouts?), and it featured a strong team. I considered picking Ponce de Leon, but decided not to because the team was kind of slow.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 4 - Orange Iguanas
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 23, 2013, 12:27:21 PM
The results were a little more spread out this time. But the three teams that were voted to give a second chance were the Ivan the Terrible (7), Belle Boyd (7), and Lost Fountain of Youth (3) teams.

The next team will be the Orange Iguanas. Give me a few minutes to edit the poll and set it up. ;)
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 4 - Orange Iguanas
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 23, 2013, 12:37:16 PM
The poll is set and my three choices went to Dead Man's Hand, Dolley Madison, and Useless Map.

Dead Man's Hand - Sarah and Josh were not a bad team at all, they got stuck with a bizarre layout. First off, why didn't any of the central shaft rooms not open? And secondly, this team was forced to take a very rare path up from the Swamp. No other S1 team ever had to do that. Plus, the lighting in their temple run sucked. I can guarantee that they would've done better on any other production day.

Dolley Madison - This team was much better than the outcome of the run. Both players were solid and if they had almost any other temple layout, they would've won.  Probably the best losing Orange Iguanas team.

Useless Map - Their temple run was cut short after traveling through 5 rooms. Since they only had one pendant, they had no choice but to avoid one guard. Hallie and Jared looked like a good team though, and the triple capture was hardly their fault. They might've actually reached the Dark Forest if their time wasn't cut short. I would like to see this team give a second chance.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 4 - Orange Iguanas
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 23, 2013, 01:04:28 PM
I voted for Dead Man's Hand, Ali Baba, and Useless Map. The first two for the unfair layouts and possible door malfunctions, and Useless Map for the unfair temple guard layout with just one pendant from a good team.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 4 - Orange Iguanas
Post by: NekoSuave on July 23, 2013, 01:12:43 PM
Dead Man's Hand: The producers must have expected too much out of these guys, I swear.

Ali Baba: I'm thinking a malfunction screwed this team over. The door to the Treacherous Swamp was initially closed, then it opened back up a bit before Kendra returned to the Throne Room. I'm willing to bet they would've at least made it to the artifact otherwise.

Useless Map: I remember considering this the most unfair loss in Legends at some point. Not sure if it would still qualify, but either way, what made this unfair was the Temple Guard placement. If only they started in the Ledges!  :(
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 4 - Orange Iguanas
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 23, 2013, 02:57:45 PM
I voted for Dead Man's Hand, Golden Stallion, and Useless Map. My reasons:

Dead Man's Hand: Their layout was just impossible. The production crew expected way too much out of this team.

Golden Stallion: Another team that got screwed over because of a possible production error. They should've gotten another chance.

Useless Map: This has got to be the most unfair triple capture ever, though Hallie should've entered the King's Storeroom instead of the Tomb. It's not that she was taking a direct path, she just didn't want to waste time climbing the Pit walls ala Veronica. Not a bad team at all, they were just unlucky.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 4 - Orange Iguanas
Post by: The Headless King on July 23, 2013, 10:18:36 PM
The Useless Map of the Chibcha Chieftain - The easy choice this time around.  While one of the three guards encountered was mostly due to bad strategy, another of the three was just bad luck.  Plus, bad luck in the third Temple Game was the only reason they didn't have both pendants of life.  Hallie and Jared were a really good team that just got unlucky in a few places.

The Golden Stallion of Ali Baba - There did seem to be a production error that made them think the Throne Room-Swamp door was locked, which screwed them over.  Having the run ruined due to faulty doors warrants a second chance.

The Mush Pot Hat of Johnny Appleseed - Of the teams left, I feel like Angela and Chris screwed up the least.  They were actually a good team, just a few seconds too slow.  And it didn't help that riding the elevator forced them to waste 20 seconds.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 4 - Orange Iguanas
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 24, 2013, 11:56:17 AM
Time to end the Orange Iguanas poll and move onto our next team. The three Orange Iguanas teams that everyone felt that could use a second chance would be Useless Map (7), Golden Stallion (5), and Dead Man's Hand (5).

The next team will be the Purple Parrots.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 5 - Purple Parrots
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 24, 2013, 12:06:46 PM
This was kind of hard to vote for due to the lack of options.  :o In the end, I went with Cobra Staff, Annie Oakley, and Henry Hudson.

Cobra Staff - It was either this one or Blackfeet Chief. I went with this one because the team out up a better effort with a lengthy layout. If only Eusinia got her head together earlier on and David moved faster, then they might've had victory.

Annie Oakley - Chandra and Nick were a very strong team in the temple, but they took the longest way in the temple which only wasted time for them and prevented them from reaching the Cloak. But still, the one room away guard was kind of brutal for them and they were the Purple Parrots' strongest losing team. I think they deserved a second chance.

Henry Hudson - Sherra and Derek were slow, but their temple layout was also very brutal also. They still even made it far with a hard layout. They were also very dominant before the temple run, so I think a strong team like them deserves a second chance.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 5 - Purple Parrots
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 24, 2013, 03:29:02 PM
Cobra Staff, Bone Necklace, and Annie Oakley. Those were the only teams that I felt like deserved another chance and didn't screw up too much.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 5 - Purple Parrots
Post by: The Headless King on July 24, 2013, 04:06:39 PM
The Leopard-Skin Cloak of Annie Oakley - The easy choice.  Chandra and Nick were a great team.  They kept up the pace throughout the run and their only mistake was passing up both doors to the Shrine and taking the elevator instead.  Plus, their layout was very difficult.

King Tut's Cobra Staff - Eusinia and David weren't amazing, but they were pretty good, and to be honest, a lot of the things that wasted their time weren't their fault.  The Observatory-Heart Room door stalled, the Throne Room was a dead-end, and the elevator stalled.

The Upside-Down Compass of Henry Hudson - Sherra and Derek were only about average in the Temple.  To put it simply, they sucked the least.  I know it sounds bad, but when you look at the other ones, every other team had at least one player, if not both, who were absolutely terrible.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 5 - Purple Parrots
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 25, 2013, 01:09:00 AM
The Leopard-Skin Cloak of Annie Oakley - The easy choice.  Chandra and Nick were a great team.  They kept up the pace throughout the run and their only mistake was passing up both doors to the Shrine and taking the elevator instead.  Plus, their layout was very difficult.

King Tut's Cobra Staff - Eusinia and David weren't amazing, but they were pretty good, and to be honest, a lot of the things that wasted their time weren't their fault.  The Observatory-Heart Room door stalled, the Throne Room was a dead-end, and the elevator stalled.

The Upside-Down Compass of Henry Hudson - Sherra and Derek were only about average in the Temple.  To put it simply, they sucked the least.  I know it sounds bad, but when you look at the other ones, every other team had at least one player, if not both, who were absolutely terrible.

I didn't find Leah and Brandon to be bad at all. Leah was very slow though, and Brandon was not much faster, but they did almost pull it off though. That was no fluke at all. And Brandon had the fastest Silver Monkey assembly too.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 5 - Purple Parrots
Post by: NekoSuave on July 25, 2013, 01:15:29 AM
This was hard, but I'm going with Cobra Staff, Bone Necklace, and Leopard-Skin Cloak. The Upside-Down Compass team isn't exactly my favorite. :S
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 5 - Purple Parrots
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 25, 2013, 12:54:11 PM
And that's it for the Purple Parrots! The teams that were decided for a second chance were Annie Oakley (7), Cobra Staff (6), and Henry Hudson (5).

Now we will cover our final team - the Silver Snakes.  :mrsilver:
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 6 - Silver Snakes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 25, 2013, 01:18:09 PM
My three Silver Snake choices: Kamehameha, Missing Eye, and War Fan.

Kamehameha: Robbie and Tina were a really good team throughout their episode and in the temple. While they are sort of to be blamed for the triple capture, there was also little they could do with their temple path. And even if the Dungeon temple guard was fair, the ending was very heartbreaking and tragic. They deserved a second go after that awkward ending.

Missing Eye: Another triple capture that was hardly the teams fault. I don't blame them for passing up the half-pendant and they would've won if it wasn't so obscure.

War Fan: Jeremy was NOT responsible for the Headless Kings door locking behind him. The team lost 30 seconds due to a glitchy door. Even though they got the second prize, Elise could've used those 30 seconds to bring the artifact out of the temple. They definitely deserved a second chance.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 6 - Silver Snakes
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 25, 2013, 02:24:18 PM
There are two Henry VIII's in the poll. :|

My votes go for the three TRJ picked, and for the same reasons.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 6 - Silver Snakes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 25, 2013, 03:30:52 PM
Oops, one of them was suppose to be "The Pendant of Kamehameha".  :lol:

I fixed it though.  ;)
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 6 - Silver Snakes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 25, 2013, 03:43:43 PM
War Fan, Kamehameha, and Priceless Portrait. My reasons:

War Fan: Easy choice here. Elise and Jeremy were completely screwed with the Tomb door getting stuck shut. Couldn't the production crew just stop filming, fix the door, then let them keep going? Like they have done in the past. They definitely deserved a second chance.

Kamehameha: I know the triple capture was pretty much the teams fault. But their temple run ended on such an awkward note, they should've gotten another chance too. Both Robbie and Tina were solid players, they just could've used some better planning.

Priceless Portrait: Both Scott Jim and Kristen were decent players, and they almost pulled off a bottom central shaft win. If only Kristen were faster, or if Jim had gone in second, they would've won for sure.
Title: Re: Which 3 losing teams would you give a second chance? Day 6 - Silver Snakes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 28, 2013, 01:05:11 AM
Almost forgot about this! The three winners are War Fan (7), Kamehameha (6), and Missing Eye (5).

I am thinking of making one final poll with all the winners from every team there. And then we will vote for the 5 teams that deserve a second chance overall. :P
Title: Re: Which 5 losing teams should be given a second chance in the temple? (FINAL POLL)
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 28, 2013, 01:16:35 AM
The poll is up, so you can make your five choices now. My five choices were:

1. Ivan the Terrible - Travis and Elisa deserved a second chance the most. They were flawless in the temple and still came up short. The very brutal layout robbed this team of a win. They would've won in almost any other layout that was not on their production day.

2. Belshazzar - Sean and Katherine did not look like bad players at all. Their layout was very bizarre and brutal. It was full of too many dead ends and locked doors. They deserved a second chance, especially after having their temple run postponed already.

3. War Fan - Even though Jeremy and Elise got the second prize, they still should've been able to use their full 3 minutes without any interference from production defects. They might've even won if Elise didn't lose those 30 seconds. It definitely was not Jeremy's fault either.

4. Dead Man's Hand - Another brutal layout. The producers expected way too much from Sarah and Josh. They had the second temple run ever, and their path was all over the temple. It didn't help that their temple run lighting suck. I am sure they would've done better in almost any other layout.

5. Belle Boyd - Just like "Ivan the Terrible", Matthew and Leah were an awesome team in the temple. Even though they took a longer path, they still put up a good effort. Their main downfall was their layout and don't let other people say otherwise.
Title: Re: Which 5 losing teams should be given a second chance in the temple? (FINAL POLL)
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 28, 2013, 01:19:22 AM
Belshazzar, Mummified Hand, Ivan the Terrible, Golden Stallion, and War Fan for me. Those to me, were the Top 5 teams that got screwed over the most. Whether it be a production error and/or impossible layout.
Title: Re: Which 5 losing teams should be given a second chance in the temple? (FINAL POLL)
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 28, 2013, 11:30:21 AM
This was really tough, but the 5 teams I went with are: Belshazzar, Mummified Hand, Discarded Seal, Useless Map, and War Fan. I wanted to pick Dead Man's Hand and Ali Baba as well, but these 5 teams I feel deserve a second chance the most. Mainly because of the layouts and production errors.
Title: Re: Which 5 losing teams should be given a second chance in the temple? (FINAL POLL)
Post by: NekoSuave on July 28, 2013, 02:54:40 PM
Here's my five:

1. Useless Map - I feel this is a very unfair loss. The Temple Guard placement was just brutal, and with only one Pendant, you have to avoid a guard, and because the first one was in the Crypt, well...

2. Belshazzar - Bad enough that this episode's Temple Run got delayed, but the brutal layout makes it worse. Not to mention the possible production error in the Room of Harmonic Convergence.

3. War Fan - Yet another Temple Run that had a production error. You'd think that they would have cleaned the problems out by Season 3, but nope! Instead, they lose 30 seconds because of a faulty door, which results in them not being able to get to the War Fan in time.

4. Discarded Seal - If this team had any other layout, they would've won for sure. They made no mistakes in the Temple, yet they were forced to take almost no shortcuts. The Temple Guard placement wasn't quite as brutal, but the last one was particularly cruel.

5. Golden Stallion - It was either this or Mummified Hand. I went with this because it was another Temple Run beset by a possible production error in the Throne Room. Because of that, the team had no chance of winning. And what a coincidence, the error happened in the same room space as the Room of Harmonic Convergence and the Tomb of the Headless Kings...jeez, that area is just full of problems.
Title: Re: Which 5 losing teams should be given a second chance in the temple? (FINAL POLL)
Post by: The Headless King on July 28, 2013, 03:00:13 PM
Wow, the results are all over the place this time around.  :lol:



The Discarded Seal of Ivan the Terrible - A very easy choice and the one everyone seems to agree on.  Travis and Elisa were easily one of the top 5 teams ever in the Temple, but they still lost because of the most vicious layout ever.

The War Fan of the 47 Ronin - I originally wasn't going to say this one, but I watched the run again and it reminded me that the door re-locking wasn't the only thing that screwed them.  There was also a mishap in the Tomb of the Headless Kings with where the skull ended up being (it's hard to tell for sure, but to me it looks it was there from the beginning as if they set it aside while resetting from the last run and then forgot to put it in the ceiling compartments).  After remembering that, I am totally convinced that Jeremy and Elise would've won if everything had gone smoothly.

The Useless Map of the Chibcha Chieftain - Three things happened that caused this to be a triple capture, and only one of them was actually the team's own fault.  It's hard to say if Hallie and Jared would've won had they been able to continue, but I still think they deserve a second chance.

The Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King - Chaos ensued after the dropped pendant and I'd like to see how well they would've done had that not happened, because Maggie and Josh were actually a pretty good team.

The Bullet-Riddled Handbag of Belle Boyd - Leah and Matthew were an outstanding team despite taking a longer path than they needed to.  The main reason I say they deserve a second chance is because the layout no less very difficult and I'm not entirely convinced they would've won even with the most efficient path.


It was really hard to narrow it down to just 5.  If I could've, I would've easily thrown in both The Golden Cup of Belshazzar and The Missing Eye of David.
Title: Re: Which 5 losing teams should be given a second chance in the temple? (FINAL POLL)
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on July 28, 2013, 05:45:17 PM
Golden Cup of Belshazzar: Katherine and Sean tried to continue moving forward, but were trapped by "dead ends" in both the Room of Harmonic Convergence and the Treasure Room.

Mummified Hand of the Egyptian Queen: Maggie's dropping her pendant was obviously accidental. Josh was able to find the pendant, and then was wise to go directly into the King's Storeroom. Unfortunately, that decision ended up bringing him around the other half pendant. With 50 seconds left on the clock, this team would have definitely at least reached the Mummified Hand if things turned out in their favor.

Bullet-Riddled Handbag of Belle Boyd: Leah made great time in the temple, reaching her seventh room in two minutes. The only thing that she could have done differently was avoid the King's Storeroom, but she still completed that extra room swiftly. Matthew followed up on her path incredibly well, and was even able to advance an additional two rooms. I doubt that the would have been granted access directly into the Shrine, even if he had tried that door. Leah and Matthew were a very strong team, and had their path not been so long, I think they would have been victorious.

Discarded Seal of Ivan the Terrible: Similarly to Leah and Matthew, Travis and Elisa were a strong team with a nearly flawless performance in the temple. Travis made great time and was removed deep in the temple. Elisa followed up on the path incredibly well and completed two more rooms when time expired. Had they been part of a different production day, victory would have been almost guaranteed.

War Fan of the 47 Ronin: Jeremy did not intentionally shut the door leading to the Tomb of the Headless Kings. He made it to the Secret Password in good time as well. Elise was held up in the crawlspace to the Tomb of the Headless Kings for 30 seconds, but still ended only one room short of the artifact. I would have liked to see how they would have done under other circumstances, especially considering that in their run, they encountered the delay and only had one pendant.