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Title: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 16, 2012, 10:13:24 PM
Hi everyone. I was watching "The Moccasins of Geronimo" today, and while I was watching, I came across this very unusual camera shot during the temple overview. Between the announcement of the first and second prize, they zoomed in on the Moccasins, and there seems to have been a person behind the temple guard door.




I just thought I'd share it out of curiosity. (Photo courtesy of video from youtube.com posted by ChargerTheWolf.)
Title: Re: Interesting Photo from "Moccasins of Geronimo"
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 16, 2012, 10:23:51 PM
I have never noticed that before. :o It looks like one of the cameramen though or a stage hand getting ready for the temple run to start. Is he the one that is doing the zoom up of the Moccasins? He looks kind of creepy standing there. :o
Title: Re: Interesting Photo from "Moccasins of Geronimo"
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 16, 2012, 10:29:21 PM
I'm not sure who it is, or what they are doing. But as the camera person is zooming in on the moccasins (from outside the temple), the person behind the door in the photo closes the door... suspicious....
Title: Re: Interesting Photo from "Moccasins of Geronimo"
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 19, 2012, 04:35:36 PM
Here's another image that I found that was interesting. It is from "The Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean" when Kelli was in the King's Storeroom, the camera zooms out a little bit and you can see a little bit outside of the temple. You can see a bunch of different people below the King's Storeroom, who look a lot like producers. You can also see her partner Tony walking back to the set also.


Title: Re: Interesting Photo from "Moccasins of Geronimo"
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on September 19, 2012, 04:41:49 PM
Kelly's partner in that episode was Mike/Michael, not Tony. ;)

Interesting finds. I don't know what the cameraman was doing in the first pic. That seems strange, but the second pic. I do think those are some production crew members standing there.
Title: Re: Interesting Photo from "Moccasins of Geronimo"
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 19, 2012, 04:44:33 PM
Yup, I meant Mike not Tony.  :oops:

For the second picture, it looks like a mixed group of people. You can see a bunch of camera in the background and there is some guy standing right in front of a TV screen. It kind of looks like Kirk Fogg standing there? Although that guy is a little chunkier than Kirk. And then there is some guy standing alone and staring up at Kelli. I wonder if their family was standing down there too?
Title: Re: Interesting Photo from "Moccasins of Geronimo"
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 19, 2012, 06:27:44 PM
I'm pretty sure it's not family members, because they're taken to a separate room while the kids are filming their episodes. Interesting photo there, I wonder why all the production crew members were there. And the guy standing in front of the TV actually does look like Kirk. It just looks like an unflattering camera angle that makes him look chunkier than normal. I thought I saw a group of crew members in other Season 3 episodes in that same camera angle, but I'm not quite sure on that.

As for the first photo, that definitely looks like a camera guy. I don't know why the temple guard door isn't closed all the way in that picture though. Slight door malfunction maybe?
Title: Re: Interesting Photo from "Moccasins of Geronimo"
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 19, 2012, 08:22:55 PM
I am pretty sure other season three King's Storeroom shots pan out wide enough that you can see beyond the temple. I could probably find a couple of more in the earlier season three episodes. I don't think the later season three episodes gave us that view because I know that its not really present in "Madame Tussaud". And yeah, I am pretty sure you are right about the parents being in another room during the episode tapings. Some of the interviews like Katie from "Imperial Wizard" and Zac from "Bandit Queen" mention that.

As for the "Moccasins" image, it was probably a cameraman indeed. It couldn't have been a temple guard because the artifact was located in the Pirate's Cove. Although it wasn't the only time that a temple guard door was left open. It happened in "The Silver Cannonball of Grandy Nanny" in the King's Storeroom and I am pretty sure it happened in the Shrine in "Sir Edmund Hillary".
Title: Re: Interesting Photo from "Moccasins of Geronimo"
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 19, 2012, 08:28:40 PM
And while we are on the subject of interesting/unusual pictures, here is one I always found unusual:




This image was taken from "The Leopard-Skin Cloak of Annie Oakley". When Nick was in the Mine Shaft, someone runs in front of the camera. Now, I use to think that it was a producer or temple guard, but on closer look at the image it looks like Chandra actually running in front of the camera. I can't believe I didn't notice that before.  :o
Title: Re: Interesting Photo from "Moccasins of Geronimo"
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on September 19, 2012, 09:12:44 PM
I think this topic should be renamed "Interesting/Unusual photos from various Legends episodes" since we're straying from the Moccasins discussion. ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Photo from "Moccasins of Geronimo"
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 19, 2012, 09:53:53 PM
Yeah, this is turning more into interesting photos from many different episodes. And not just the interesting photo from the Moccasins episode. I'll rename the title in the OP to avoid confusion.

As for the Leopard Skin Cloak photo, that's clearly Chandra running back to Kirk.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 19, 2012, 10:12:59 PM
I agree that the blurred person in Chandra.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 20, 2012, 12:28:09 AM
Thanks for fixing the topic title. I didn't mean to derail the topic or anything, I just didn't want to start a new topic when we had one.  :oops: My apologies and thanks for PPF for changing it and PP4L for being cool with it.  ;)

And I agree, that has to be Chandra. The height matches her height and the person that runs in front of the camera has a helmet too.  :mrpurple:
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 20, 2012, 06:48:36 PM
In Seasons Two and Three, there was a temple guard door in the Jester's Court (courtesy video from youtube.com posted by ChargerTheWolf):




I'm surprised that it was never used at all. It seems to be similar to the door used by the guards in the Observatory/King's Storeroom (S3).
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 23, 2012, 04:35:53 PM
I've got a doozie of a screenshot with this one! This series of photos is from "The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain" run, and I wanted to bring up two interesting finds. First off, I'd like to focus your attention on the guard from the Chamber of the Sacred Markers. Notice that in the first frame (1:58), he is holding himself against the wall. Even when Jessica completes the Storeroom objective and is running down the stairs to the Ancient Warriors, the guard is still there (1:44). The guards normally didn't stay exposed like that, even in other episodes where the guard was located behind the cover in the Chamber. But, by the time Jarrid entered the temple and climbed up the ladder from the Chamber to the Storeroom, the guard finally "vanished." I wonder if the door was stuck, or if something else may have caused the guard to remain in the room for that extended time.

Also, I wanted to point out the fact that the Storeroom may have been accessible from the Pit. Notice in the first photo (1:58), the staircase on the right is completely down, while the left staircase is barred (since Jessica had not yet completed the Storeroom objective to allow her into the Ancient Warriors). However, in the photo at 1:26, when Jarrid enters the temple, the door is closed. He tries to go up that way, but for some reason he cannot and instead proceeds to jump down into the Pit and heads for the Tomb of the Headless Kings. Also, the fourth photo (0:22), taken when Jarrid is exiting the temple, shows that the staircase is still lowered, and the door from the Pit to the King's Storeroom is still shut. Compare this to the Pit/Chamber door, which was initially closed, but was opened upon Jarrid reaching the artifact.



(Screenshots courtesy of video from youtube.com posted by OlmecFan25)

I think this provides sufficient evidence that this run could have been shortened to bypass the Tomb of the Headless Kings and the Chamber of the Sacred Markers (as well as the guard that was located there). In that case, this run would have only required the team to enter five rooms before reaching the artifact (Crypt, Pit, Storeroom, Ancient Warriors, and Shrine). This could have also been a solo victory. However, that would also mean that Jarrid would not have had to have entered the temple, and this run would have probably not had such an exciting or close finish.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 23, 2012, 04:50:42 PM
Another photo find I have mentioned elsewhere on this site is that the door from the Pit to the Tomb of the Headless Kings got stuck in more than just the "War Fan of the Forty-Seven Ronin" episode. It also happened in the run directly before, the "Comet-Embroidered Battle Flag of William the Conqueror." When Jonathan entered the temple and reached the Tomb, he pushed the door aside so vigorously that the door swung open, reached the maximum of its hinge, and recoiled. My photos reveal the door closed with the same position in both episodes. It suggests that the door sealed shut the same way for "Battle Flag" as it did in "War Fan," except with no consequence. That's because Jonathan made no attempt to proceed down from the Chamber after grabbing the flag, and his partner had already entered the temple (unlike the "War Fan," where the door sealed before the second player entered). Screenshots courtesy video from youtube.com from OlmecFan25.





Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Silver Monkey on September 23, 2012, 04:55:47 PM
And of course, both were filmed the same day.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 23, 2012, 05:01:51 PM
What I find most interesting is that this occurred twice, on the same day, in back-to-back runs. You would think that the producers would have caught this malfunction and would have tried to correct it from happening again after the first time during "Battle Flag." Instead they didn't, and it affected the results of the very next run quite drastically.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 24, 2012, 02:27:08 PM
So is it possible that Jonathan may have messed up the Tomb of the Headless Kings door in the "William the Conqueror" run? I mean the "War Fan" run was taped right after his run. I mean the door opened just fine when Jeremy entered the room. But when he started to pull the vines, it kind of looks like he bumped the door close. I think it was honest mistake though despite what Kirk said in the run (which sounds dubbed over anyways.) And I noticed that the Chamber door in the Pit is initially locked when Jeremy knocks the pillar down. Yet, when Elise enters the Pit, that door is open. I guessed it open when Jeremy completed the Chamber's objective?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 24, 2012, 02:33:23 PM
Here is another interesting picture that PP319 posted in one of the game threads. It was from "Blackbeard's Treasure Map" and the camera pans out of the temple for a brief moment. You can even see a cameraman. I guessed they panned out because the temple run was so bad. :roll:


Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 24, 2012, 02:44:23 PM
Also, in response to the awkward temple guard in the "Pirate Captain" temple run, I present to you another awkward temple guard moment from "The Very Tall Turban of Ahmed Baba":  :lol:




Most probably know about this one already, but the temple guard in this run walks around the Swamp awkwardly while Shane is trying to enter the Dark Forest. I wonder what his deal was? Was he trying to exit the room without getting in the camera's way? I mean the guard in "The Two-Cornered Hat of Napoleon" went back into hiding once Carly encountered him.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 24, 2012, 02:44:51 PM
So is it possible that Jonathan may have messed up the Tomb of the Headless Kings door in the "William the Conqueror" run? I mean the "War Fan" run was taped right after his run. I mean the door opened just fine when Jeremy entered the room. But when he started to pull the vines, it kind of looks like he bumped the door close. I think it was honest mistake though despite what Kirk said in the run (which sounds dubbed over anyways.) And I noticed that the Chamber door in the Pit is initially locked when Jeremy knocks the pillar down. Yet, when Elise enters the Pit, that door is open. I guessed it open when Jeremy completed the Chamber's objective?

The Pit/Chamber door did not open in the War Fan run at any point during the run. Compare the photo of when Elise runs through the Pit to when Veronica is in the Pit during the "Bifocal Monocle," which we know had the Chamber door open. The two runs were taped the same day and the photos are taken at nearly the same angle. The War Fan's Chamber door has the red cover still sealed, whereas it was unlocked in the Bifocal Monocle's run. Photos courtesy of video from youtube.com posted by OlmecFan25.


                 
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 24, 2012, 02:49:06 PM
Interesting find, I always thought that the door to the Chamber was locked in the "War Fan" run also. I remember everyone said that Elise could've still entered the Chamber from the Pit of the Pendulum, but I never thought that door actually opened at any point in the run. I watched the run myself and I agree that the Chamber door was definitely locked. Good find!
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 24, 2012, 02:59:11 PM
And as far as the "awkward guard" from the Very Tall Turban episode, it may have been that Shane got his foot caught in the netting in the Swamp, and the guard switched into "spotter/rigger" mode to see if he was okay.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on September 24, 2012, 07:20:19 PM
And as far as the "awkward guard" from the Very Tall Turban episode, it may have been that Shane got his foot caught in the netting in the Swamp, and the guard switched into "spotter/rigger" mode to see if he was okay.

I'll agree with this and the War Fan Chamber door not being open from the Pit. Everyone on YouTube said that the door was open, but I looked at that same angle again and again and it looked like there was more red (the door) than there was black (no door/open). If it was open, there would be no red at all.

Great finds by the way PP4L. Representing Purple Parrot fans everywhere! :mrpurple: ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on September 24, 2012, 07:24:23 PM
I can't forget everyone else that has played a role in producing this solid topic. Great work guys! =)

Concerning the Jesters' Court having a small door in the room for temple guards. That red space looks too narrow for temple guards, but maybe that was a door and the tan coloring outside of the red box was part of the door as well. Maybe the producers originally planned to make this another room to have temple guards, but decided to make it a "safe spot".
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on September 27, 2012, 08:26:57 PM
Here's another one. It's the Jesters' Court from "The Royal Torque of Queen Boadicea". Look at how dark it is:




Image courtesy of OlmecFan25. I wonder why the entire left side of the room was almost completely dark. I'm surprised Nate went for that wall painting with it being as dark as it was. If it wasn't for that move, he might've achieved a very close win. However, the outcome isn't the point. The point is how dark the Jesters' Court was in that run. I checked the other runs that took place on the same day (Roland, Lost Hornpipe, and Enormous Feather). Now we can't look off of Lost Hornpipe because the room was never entered, but in the Roland and Feather runs where the room was entered, the room really wasn't dark at all. This is strange. :?

Anybody have a clue as to why it was so dark at that time? The darkness never went away, even after Nate completed the objective.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 27, 2012, 08:48:27 PM
Wow, I never noticed how dark it was in that room during that run.  :shock: It is complete pitch black on the left side of the room. Notice that when Nate first enters the room, he attempts the middle painting first before trying the one on the left. I don't know if he would've won though if he went for the middle painting first. If he stayed low, it might've been an "Emiliano Zapata" type of win. But I blame this loss more on Lissy, she was too slow and hesitant. But good fine, I watched that run many times and never noticed that. ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 27, 2012, 10:16:19 PM
Also on that filming day, the lights in the "Enormous Feather" run didn't dim like they usually do. Maybe there were many different glitches in the Jesters' Court that day?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 27, 2012, 11:03:04 PM
The light in "Royal Torque" might have blown out during the run, which would result in the dark spot on that painting. Notice that the dark spot is pretty much circular along the lower right hand side (just like a stage spotlight, for people who are familiar was stage lighting). They probably replaced the light between that run and "Enormous Feather," but because the production time was so hectic and short, they didn't have enough time to reprogram the light to dim when the Jester's Court objective was completed. That would explain the brightness of the room in the "Enormous Feather" run. Notice that the black light effect still displays in the "Enormous Feather," which would not have been affected by that light being blown out and not being reprogrammed.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 01, 2012, 11:43:13 AM
During our two-day interim, I was meandering through some more Season Three episodes, and the editing for the introduction of "The Much Heralded Helmet of Sir Gawain" caught my attention. (Photos courtesy video from youtube.com posted by OlmecFan25)




The first time photo (upper left, at 0:54) comes right after Olmec announces the artifact for the day, and Kirk replies, "Oh! The Much Heralded Helmet of Sir Gawain!" Then at 0:55 (lower left), that first camera cuts and a second camera does a sweep of the moat before the teams get introduced (when Kirk says, "Well one of our teams will have a chance to retrieve the Helmet!"). Then, right before each teams gets their face time, a new camera angle shows Kirk saying, "Will it be the Red Jaguars?" at 0:56 (upper right). This is where it gets interesting... as you can see in the photo series, the moat obstacle changes from the swinging bridge to the rope and cargo net. When they introduce the teams and then go back to Kirk saying, "First they're gonna have to cross the moat, and here's how they'll have to do it today," at 1:16 (lower right), the moat changes back to having the swinging bridge.

Hmmmm..... very interesting editing job, if I do say so myself.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 01, 2012, 06:07:46 PM
Interesting, I wonder how that happened? IIRC, the vine and cargo net moat wasn't used until "The Mystical Spellbook of the Imperial Wizard" production day, which was much later than the "Sir Gawain" production day. I guess it was just a poor edit job on the producer's parts. In fact, the whole "Sir Gawain" episode felt poorly edited. During Jamal's temple game (swinging mace one), you can tell that it was dubbed over. Plus, the swinging mace was all over the place and was poorly-coordinated. And not to mention, Tiffani's temple run was a little screwy also. It was just a weird episode from beginning to end. Good find too. ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 03, 2012, 04:27:32 PM
Another finding of mine, regarding the "Dried Apple Half of William Tell":

Where did the guard in the Ledges go after he captured Brett? Did he climb up to the Crypt? Did he wait until Brett left the room and then go into the understory of the Ledges (where the Season Two Ledges guards were stationed)? Did he totally vaporize into the air? Or does anyone have a different idea?

This series of photos shows the guard capturing Brett in the upper left. In the lower left, that is when Brett is trying the doors to the Pit of the Pendulum. This photo is the best shot of the whole room after the guard captures Brett. The camera at no point zooms in (or even shows) the upper tier of the Ledges.  The photos on the right are when Lauren enters the temple. As you can see, the guard is not visible in the room in either photo. Photos courtesy video from youtube.com posted by OlmecFan25.


Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 03, 2012, 07:23:03 PM
I was always curious on how the temple guard would've captured Brett had he started in the Ledges right away? I guess he would've had to grab him while he was trying for one of the doors in the Pit. It would've probably been awkward though. Good find once again. I bet Lauren's big mouth scared him away.  :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on October 03, 2012, 07:24:26 PM
That temple guard is a magician. ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 04, 2012, 12:29:15 PM



Here is an image of the Tomb of the Ancient Kings in "The Stolen Arm of Shiva" that has always interested me. The image above was taken during Olmec's temple rundown. As you can see from the image, the rock slab covering the sarcophagus in the center of the room is already open. Also, it seems like the key that usually hides in the sarcophagus is sitting on the key panel in the back of the room near the Shrine door. Why is it like this? I am not sure, maybe the producer's were trying to make the layout simpler for the team. But how would they have known that the key was on the back wall? Oh well, they were too slow to begin with so we will never know.  :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 04, 2012, 12:59:06 PM
That is quite interesting! And I have another photo of the room, from when they're pausing between announcing the first and second prizes (courtesy video from youtube.com from OlmecFan25). As you can see in the photo, the cover of the sarcophagus is still removed.




What puzzles me is not that the lid is removed; it's that the key is placed on the door to the Shrine of the Silver Monkey. The team was going to be forced to go from the Tomb of Ancient Kings to the Bamboo Forest (that's a given, since the Room of Harmonic Convergence and the Treasure Room did  not allow entry to the Bamboo Forest). If the key was really placed against the other door (which, to me, it looks like it is) then that probably would have confused the players rather than help them out because they would have had to find the mis-located key and then activate the proper door.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on October 04, 2012, 02:42:39 PM
Speaking of the image that PP4L just posted, look at where the Stolen Arm is. When it was first introduced at the beginning of the show, this was where it was located (still in the Bamboo Forest, but different location) :




Look at the image PP4L posted. The Stolen Arm got relocated on some of the bamboo instead of at the front of the room. That's just weird. :o
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 04, 2012, 04:36:23 PM
While we're on the topic of odd locations for artifacts, I had a question about the Sacred Ring of Sultan Suleiman... The Ring was placed on the finger of one of the trees. If the contestant reached the Ring, would they have had to pry it off of the finger or slide it off of the finger, and then continue their escape from the temple?

And were there any other episodes where the artifact was positioned in a similar manner (integrated into/onto a prop)? The only time I can think of that even comes close to that is the Two-Cornered Hat of Napoleon being perched on the of the clay pots in the King's Storeroom.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 04, 2012, 05:10:19 PM
PP319, the "Stolen Arm" indeed switched positions in that episode. It was first perched on the ledge in front of the Bamboo Forest, but during the temple rundown you can see it in the mass of bamboo sticks, as evident in PP4L's picture. I am not sure why it switched positions, but it also happened in "The Codebook of Mata Hari":




The image on the left is from when Olmec reveals the location for the Codebook after telling his legend. The image on the right is the Codebook's position during the temple rundown. The Codebook is placed on top of a pile of rocks for the temple run, I guess to make it easier for the contestants to grab.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 04, 2012, 05:14:20 PM
While we're on the topic of odd locations for artifacts, I had a question about the Sacred Ring of Sultan Suleiman... The Ring was placed on the finger of one of the trees. If the contestant reached the Ring, would they have had to pry it off of the finger or slide it off of the finger, and then continue their escape from the temple?

And were there any other episodes where the artifact was positioned in a similar manner (integrated into/onto a prop)? The only time I can think of that even comes close to that is the Two-Cornered Hat of Napoleon being perched on the of the clay pots in the King's Storeroom.

I think they would've just had to slide it off the limb of the tree. It would be pretty cruel for the producers to make the contestant waste time just to put extra effort into grabbing the artifact. Although that was a very odd place to put the artifact at in the first place.

Another weird artifact location was "The Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu" where the Red Sash was wrapped around the body of one of the Headless Kings. Quentin probably would've had to rip it off the body in order to be able to carry it out of the temple.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 04, 2012, 05:53:53 PM
PP319, the "Stolen Arm" indeed switched positions in that episode. It was first perched on the ledge in front of the Bamboo Forest, but during the temple rundown you can see it in the mass of bamboo sticks, as evident in PP4L's picture. I am not sure why it switched positions, but it also happened in "The Codebook of Mata Hari":




The image on the left is from when Olmec reveals the location for the Codebook after telling his legend. The image on the right is the Codebook's position during the temple rundown. The Codebook is placed on top of a pile of rocks for the temple run, I guess to make it easier for the contestants to grab.

Another episode where the artifact is perched atop a rock in the Heart Room is "Ponce de Leon and the Lost Fountain of Youth." The difference here is that it was placed on the rock during both the Steps of Knowledge display and the Temple Run.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 04, 2012, 06:25:40 PM
Here's some more interesting pictures. These are from "The Golden Pepperoni of Catherine de Medici."





In the circled red, what is with the camera crew in the Pit of Despair? I've seen them in the Crypt during the temple rundown or in a room before the contestant enters it, but the Pit? Maybe this isn't too uncommon, but it looked out of place in the above pictures.

EDIT: To resize images.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 04, 2012, 08:44:41 PM
At first, I thought that was some Green Monkey player.  :shock: I guess its suppose to be a crew member though. I am not sure what they are doing in the Pit though. I guess they are going to get prepared for the next temple run? Either that, or they were gathering their equipment since wasn't the "Golden Pepperoni" episode the last one for the day anyways?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 04, 2012, 08:48:14 PM
At first, I thought that was some Green Monkey player.  :shock: I guess its suppose to be a crew member though. I am not sure what they are doing in the Pit though. I guess they are going to get prepared for the next temple run? Either that, or they were gathering their equipment since wasn't the "Golden Pepperoni" episode the last one for the day anyways?

If we assume that "The Golden Pepperoni" is episode 73, then it would have been the first run for the day (unless production order and Temple Run order were not sequential).
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 04, 2012, 08:53:20 PM
I just checked, and nicklegends site it back! Awesome! :mrred: And you are right, "Golden Pepperoni" was the first episode produced that day and the second temple run of the day. "The Secret Battle Plan of Nathan Hale" was first while "Charles Lindbergh" was the final episode that day.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 04, 2012, 09:23:09 PM
What's interesting is that during the "Nathan Hale" run, the team was forced to swing across the Pit and never had any contact with the ball pit at the bottom. The "Golden Pepperoni" was the first team of that production day to go down in the Pit. So whatever was the cause for the crew member being there either had to do with his job or something that happened during that run. I've been searching over archived threads on this site, and some people believe that this is evidence that Aqila was the mysterious person who had the "mishap" as described by Kirk Fogg in interview. Personally, I don't think that the crew member being in the Pit had anything to do with the players in this run, since he seems to be using either a camera or a lighting device to focus in on objects lining the Pit (possibly for segues to commercials or other shots to scatter throughout the episode?).

By the way, I have the same photo as one that was previously posted, but the outlining on the one posted covered part of the crew member, so I've uploaded mine below (photo courtesy of video posted by OlmecFan25 on youtube.com):


Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on October 04, 2012, 10:22:11 PM
I think that has something to do with a player throwing up in the pit. I always thought it was either Christina from the Nathan Hale run or Tarrah from the Milk Bucket run that supposedly upchucked, not Aqila.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 04, 2012, 10:24:56 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it wasn't Aqila. Even though there was some sloppy editing when she was going back for the half pendant. But it was probably just that, some bad editing.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 04, 2012, 10:28:20 PM
Yeah, people have theorized that it was either Christina or Tarrah that puked in the Pit according to Kirk's interview. People even claim that the "Nathan Hale" run was postponed because of that particular reason. However, I don't think it was her that puked in the Pit. As PP4L mentioned, the team didn't even enter the lower part of the Pit at all during the run. As for the reason why the temple run was postponed is a mystery, but "Belshazzar" was also postponed to and both episodes were on the first production day of their respective seasons, so it shouldn't be too hard to see why her run was postponed.

I do agree that it could've been Tarrah though. I mean we get that weird shot of her in the Pit when she is about to enter the Tomb of the Headless Kings and she turns towards the camera for a moment. And then in the next shot, she is in the crawl space entering the room. I remember someone said that Tarrah jumped over the Pit was due to her not wanting to jump into her barf. But I think that is thinking way too much about it.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on October 04, 2012, 10:30:34 PM
Tomb of the Headless Kings? You mean the Ledges? :?:
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 04, 2012, 10:31:58 PM
I actually meant the Laser Light Room.  :oops:
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 04, 2012, 10:41:02 PM
Yeah, people have theorized that it was either Christina or Tarrah that puked in the Pit according to Kirk's interview. People even claim that the "Nathan Hale" run was postponed because of that particular reason. However, I don't think it was her that puked in the Pit. As PP4L mentioned, the team didn't even enter the lower part of the Pit at all during the run. As for the reason why the temple run was postponed is a mystery, but "Belshazzar" was also postponed to and both episodes were on the first production day of their respective seasons, so it shouldn't be too hard to see why her run was postponed.
Others have theorized the different colored pots in the King's Storeroom between "Silver Horseshoe" and "Ali Baba's" temple runs. And there was some sort of production error behind that. But, that's another story....

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I do agree that it could've been Tarrah though. I mean we get that weird shot of her in the Pit when she is about to enter the Tomb of the Headless Kings and she turns towards the camera for a moment. And then in the next shot, she is in the crawl space entering the room. I remember someone said that Tarrah jumped over the Pit was due to her not wanting to jump into her barf. But I think that is thinking way too much about it.
Yeah, that's possible, and that's what everyone else theorized. But I agree, jumping just to avoid the spot she puked in is thinking way too much into it. I know some people are emetphobic (sp?), but that doesn't mean that alone was the reason Tarrah jumped across the Pit.

To keep this on topic, I'll see if I can find some other camera guys seen during the temple run.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 04, 2012, 11:34:54 PM
I don't seem to follow the logic behind the "changing colors of the pots in the King's Storeroom" idea.




I have photos of the King's Storeroom from Episodes 41 (Silver Horseshoe), 42 (Secret Battle Plan), and 43 (Golden Stallion), courtesy video posted by OlmecFan25 on youtube.com. I understand that the pots changed in each episode, as shown in the series of photos, even going from Episode 41 to 42 when they did not smash any pots during that episode. But what does that have to do with Christina possibly being the person who may have gotten ill? It is clear that Episode 42 was taped during a later layout of the season, so of course, they would have different pots by the time that new filming day came around.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Silver Monkey on October 05, 2012, 07:12:06 PM
There's a theory that the Battle Plan kids initially had their run the same day as the rest of the episode, but there was no key hidden in any of the pots when the Snakes smashed them, so they were given a second chance later.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 05, 2012, 08:11:30 PM
Okay, that makes sense. But I don't see how that in any way would correlate to Christina possibly being the person who got ill...
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 06, 2012, 12:44:26 AM
Where did the key theory come from for the "Nathan Hale" run? I never heard it before. Does it have something to do with there being two keys in the "Grandy Nanny" temple run?

And one more thing that I am sure that most know about this, but the Secret Battle Plan was originally supposed to be located in the Throne Room. During the temple games, you can see it sitting on the Throne in the back. Plus, when Olmec reveals the location of the Battle Plan, we never see it in the Shrine.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on October 06, 2012, 09:49:06 AM
Okay, that makes sense. But I don't see how that in any way would correlate to Christina possibly being the person who got ill...
I really don't see Christina as a likely candidate either. Mainly because Kirk Fogg stated in the interview where we found out that a female contestant once got ill in the Pit was allowed to stop and take a rest, but then had to immediately carry on. The interviewers expressed shock that the girl had to keep going, if anyone remembers.

Now if an incident like the door stuck shut in the War Fan episode which was a lot more the crew's fault than the contestants' in the sense that the door shouldn't have been faulty did not warrant a complete redo; why on earth would Christina, had she thrown up from no fault of the crew, be allowed to finish the entire run only for the run to be rejected and for the team to get a second chance for free? That just doesn't make any sense to me.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: GreenMonkeys#1 on October 06, 2012, 10:40:33 AM
I think they have different Pots from every episode in The King's Storeroom
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 06, 2012, 10:59:05 AM
I think they have different Pots from every episode in The King's Storeroom

I don't know if this is true or not. I always thought that if the teams did not enter the King's Storeroom at all during the temple run, then they used the pots again in the next run? I thought the "Billy the Kid" and "Nathan Hale" temple run had the exact same pots in the King's Storeroom?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 06, 2012, 11:05:57 AM
Here is a comparison of the pots of the King's Storeroom for both "Billy the Kid" and "Nathan Hale". They are the exact same color and design in both pictures. And since Heather and Tony did not enter the King's Storeroom in the first episode, there was no need to create new pots at all.


Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on October 06, 2012, 11:24:32 AM
^ Kelly and Tony Mr. Fogg-up King. ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Silver Monkey on October 06, 2012, 03:09:06 PM
Where did the key theory come from for the "Nathan Hale" run? I never heard it before. Does it have something to do with there being two keys in the "Grandy Nanny" temple run?

Yeah. The production order that filming day was Silver Horseshoe->Secret Battle Plan->Golden Stallion->Silver Cannonball. The pots in Golden Stallion and Silver Cannonball were one and the same (the Stallion kids never entered the room), and since the pots in the Silver Horseshoe run were different and weren't smashed, something had to have happened in between the filming of its' run and the filming of Golden Stallion's run to necessitate the change of pots.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 06, 2012, 05:28:10 PM
So let me make sure I understand:




As you can see in this photo (courtesy video posted by OlmecFan25 on youtube.com), the pots in Episode 41 are different from those in Episodes 43 and 44, but the ones in Episodes 43 and 44 are the same. The pots were not smashed in either Episode 41 or 43. Also note that in the photo in the lower right, two keys are present during the Temple Run.

Using these facts, it makes the most sense that no keys were present in the pots from Episode 41 (and the first run of Episode 42), and the key that was meant to be placed inside, instead accidentally ended up being placed in with the second key for the next set of pots (seen in Episodes 43 and 44). The lack of having a key did not affect Episode 41's run, since they did not have to complete the King's Storeroom objective.

Since the Secret Battle Plan (Episode 42) was originally in the Throne Room, the team would have been forced to go from the Pit to either the Observatory or Heart Room, into the King's Storeroom, around the horn, and down to the Swamp; there was no way that the production team would have just had them go down the central shaft to reach the artifact. Therefore, the team was forced to smash the pots in the King's Storeroom in order to advance, but the key was not there. Since it was the first production day with the new director, they were probably short on time and did not have time to retape the run, but instead postponed it to a later date. Therefore, the layout changed between the rest of the episode and the featured run for Episode 42. Since the Throne Room no longer existed in the new layout, the room in which the artifact was located needed to be changed, and the shot of the artifact during the Steps of Knowledge needed to be edited.

Then, since the pots were smashed during the original Episode 42 run, they were replaced for Episode 43. They were not smashed in Episode 43, so they were left for the Episode 44 run, where two keys are found to have been residing inside the same pot... the culprit!

Corollary: The reason that Episode 42 was delayed was that there was a production error involving the key in the King's Storeroom, not that Christina was ill.

Does this agree with what everybody else is thinking, or am I still not understanding the whole idea correctly?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 06, 2012, 05:32:03 PM
And on a similar note, during the Temple Run for "The Silver Horseshoe of Butch Cassidy," when Paula is running out of the temple, she passes through the King's Storeroom. It is interesting to note that the temple guard door is opened; however, the doors are completely closed during the temple overview (photo courtesy video posted by OlmecFan25 on youtube.com):


Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Silver Monkey on October 06, 2012, 06:03:24 PM
So let me make sure I understand:




As you can see in this photo (courtesy video posted by OlmecFan25 on youtube.com), the pots in Episode 41 are different from those in Episodes 43 and 44, but the ones in Episodes 43 and 44 are the same. The pots were not smashed in either Episode 41 or 43. Also note that in the photo in the lower right, two keys are present during the Temple Run.

Using these facts, it makes the most sense that no keys were present in the pots from Episode 41 (and the first run of Episode 42), and the key that was meant to be placed inside, instead accidentally ended up being placed in with the second key for the next set of pots (seen in Episodes 43 and 44). The lack of having a key did not affect Episode 41's run, since they did not have to complete the King's Storeroom objective.

Since the Secret Battle Plan (Episode 42) was originally in the Throne Room, the team would have been forced to go from the Pit to either the Observatory or Heart Room, into the King's Storeroom, around the horn, and down to the Swamp; there was no way that the production team would have just had them go down the central shaft to reach the artifact. Therefore, the team was forced to smash the pots in the King's Storeroom in order to advance, but the key was not there. Since it was the first production day with the new director, they were probably short on time and did not have time to retape the run, but instead postponed it to a later date. Therefore, the layout changed between the rest of the episode and the featured run for Episode 42. Since the Throne Room no longer existed in the new layout, the room in which the artifact was located needed to be changed, and the shot of the artifact during the Steps of Knowledge needed to be edited.

Then, since the pots were smashed during the original Episode 42 run, they were replaced for Episode 43. They were not smashed in Episode 43, so they were left for the Episode 44 run, where two keys are found to have been residing inside the same pot... the culprit!

Corollary: The reason that Episode 42 was delayed was that there was a production error involving the key in the King's Storeroom, not that Christina was ill.

Does this agree with what everybody else is thinking, or am I still not understanding the whole idea correctly?

Yeah, that's exactly what the theory is (at least to me).
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 06, 2012, 06:24:44 PM
Yeah, that's exactly what the theory is (at least to me).

Then why do some people believe that Christina was the person who got ill?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 06, 2012, 06:29:23 PM
Because Renegade Pancake/The Mandarin Hand (an old member here) was the one who came up with the theory that Christina puked in the Pit. And for that reason alone, they postponed the temple run. Which wouldn't have happened unless she was seriously sick. I don't know where he would get an idea like that. But then again, Kirk likes to exaggerate a bit, so he could have made up the whole "someone got sick" story. If he didn't make it up, then it probably was Tarrah who got sick. Someone should find her and interview her, and the Secret Battle Plan kids for that matter.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Silver Monkey on October 06, 2012, 06:40:32 PM
Why the Battle Flag kids? And yes, Tarrah does make sense as the puker, if just going off of the obvious cut as she enters the Laser Light Room.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 06, 2012, 07:12:26 PM
I meant Battle Plan, sorry. But yeah, most people think it was Tarrah who puked, solely for the edit in the Pit.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 06, 2012, 11:15:15 PM
In the "Upside-Down Compass of Henry Hudson" run, a lot of different doors opened. But when exactly did they all open?




(Photo courtesy video posted by OlmecFan25 on youtube.com) As you can see by this series of photos, the door from the Pit to the Chamber of the Sacred Markers was still closed when Sherra went down to the Tomb of the Headless Kings (upper left), but it was opened when Derek went through (upper right). This contrasts the idea that only the doors that lead the team forward opened in Season Three.

Also, from the Chamber of the Sacred Markers, both the King's Storeroom AND the Room of the Ancient Warriors opened (lower right and lower left... I know that the outlined image on the lower left is very small, but that was the best image I could get from when Sherra was in the room after the objective was completed, and it should be noticeable that the normal white door cover is slid aside, not to mention that Derek uses that pathway when he goes into the temple). Is this the only time where all of the doors leading out of the "Center of the Rooms" were successfully activated in a single run?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 07, 2012, 12:42:39 AM
Yeah, I noticed that detail before in the "Henry Hudson" run too. Its very obvious that the door to the Chamber-Pit did not open until sometime after Sherra completed the Chamber objective. I am not sure why this happened though. Perhaps it was a delayed door or it was programmed to open incorrectly? I don't recall any other runs that did this where a door opened later once a team completed an objective. I remember people like outer space use to give Sherra a hard time for taking the direct path, but this is evidence that she had no choice but to go down into the Tomb of the Headless Kings.

As for the King's Storeroom, I am not sure why the door opened. Maybe it was just suppose to be a useless detour where if the team was inattentive, they would enter that room. Didn't that happen in "The War Fan of the 47 Ronin" too where the King's Storeroom opened for Jeremy along with the Ancient Warrior door? I don't remember. But the door to the King's Storeroom didn't open from the Pit though in the "Henry Hudson" run. So I am not sure again what happened there. It kind of reminds me of "The Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean" where Michael avoided the King's Storeroom altogether while Kelli goes up there for no reason. Except in that run, the King's Storeroom door opened from the Pit.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 07, 2012, 12:53:16 AM
It's Kelli, not Emily.

And I agree about Henry Hudson. All the doors had to have opened after Sherra completed the Chamber object. She did NOT try for a direct path like some people say she did.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 07, 2012, 01:04:00 AM
I honestly never understood how people like outer space considered that to be a direct path. If the contestant was forced into the direct path route, than I don't consider it a direct path. Which is why I never agreed that Sherra, Leah from "Belle Boyd", and Ryan from "Gwalior" took a direct path.

Here is another interesting image I want to add:




This image was from Olmec's temple rundown in "The Mask of Shaka Zulu". You can see that the Treasure Chest in the Treasure Room was already open before the temple run even started. This brings up the whole discussion of whether the "Shaka Zulu" win was either a production error or not. I do believe that a production error did occur in the Holes of Python. I believe that the Treasure Chest was left open because the Holes of Python was really suppose to be a deadend. It would have a layout similar to "Leonardo Da Vinci" and "Stone Marker", except that the Treasure Chest this time was not a deadend. So there had to be a production error in that room. Or maybe Bobby cheated by forcing the Tomb of the Ancient Kings door open?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 07, 2012, 01:40:59 AM
Plus, people gave Sherra crap for entering the Tomb instead of the Chamber. When really the Chamber did NOT open until after she completed the objective. Therefore, she did not bring the tough layout on herself. As to why all the doors in the Chamber opened, I have no idea.

As for Shaka Zulu, the Holes of Python had to be a production error. I don't think the producers would give Bobby a layout THAT easy. The treasure chest being opened indicates he definitely would have entered that room instead.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 07, 2012, 02:20:00 AM
Yeah, no way that was suppose to be the intended path for Bobby. That path was way too simple. Not to mention that the only temple guard he encountered was in the Cave of Sighs. Even a pathetic win like " :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:" forced the Silver Snakes to encounter at least two guards. I am not sure what happened in the Holes of Python, but I think its enough proof that the Holes of Python should've been a deadend. And this might not be a popular opinion, but I don't think Bobby would've won if he took the long way. He just was not as great as people make him out to be. :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 07, 2012, 12:15:11 PM
Yeah, I noticed that detail before in the "Henry Hudson" run too. Its very obvious that the door to the Chamber-Pit did not open until sometime after Sherra completed the Chamber objective. I am not sure why this happened though. Perhaps it was a delayed door or it was programmed to open incorrectly? I don't recall any other runs that did this where a door opened later once a team completed an objective. I remember people like outer space use to give Sherra a hard time for taking the direct path, but this is evidence that she had no choice but to go down into the Tomb of the Headless Kings.

As for the King's Storeroom, I am not sure why the door opened. Maybe it was just suppose to be a useless detour where if the team was inattentive, they would enter that room. Didn't that happen in "The War Fan of the 47 Ronin" too where the King's Storeroom opened for Jeremy along with the Ancient Warrior door? I don't remember. But the door to the King's Storeroom didn't open from the Pit though in the "Henry Hudson" run. So I am not sure again what happened there. It kind of reminds me of "The Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean" where Michael avoided the King's Storeroom altogether while Kelli goes up there for no reason. Except in that run, the King's Storeroom door opened from the Pit.

In the "War Fan" episode, the door from the Chamber to the King's Storeroom did not open; only the door to the Ancient Warriors opened. The door from the Pit to the King's Storeroom did not open either in that episode, so the team had absolutely no access to the room from any direction.

In the "Thornwood Gavel" episode, the Chamber only opened to the Ancient Warriors, and the King's Storeroom was accessible from the Pit. The King's Storeroom then connected back to Michael's path at the Room of the Ancient Warriors.

And as far as the door from the "Upside-Down Compass" goes, I think that the King's Storeroom was meant to be a detour, but not a dead-end. After completing the Storeroom objective, the step would have lowered heading toward the Ancient Warriors. This would end up replicating so many Season Two runs, where that triangle of doors (between Observatory, Medusa's Lair, and King's Storeroom) would bring the team around in circles if they didn't know where they were going. Plus, since we know that the Ancient Warriors was accessible from the Chamber as soon as Sherra completed the Chamber objective, that would have made the King's Storeroom guard avoidable. That means that in nearly every episode, it was possible to avoid at least one guard.

(Back when I first watched this show, I thought that when a team encountered an "avoidable" guard, other doors would open. For example, I thought that it wasn't until Veronica detoured up to the King's Storeroom in "Bifocal Monocle" that the door from the Chamber to the Tomb of the Headless Kings opened... In other words, I thought that the dead-end guard was unavoidable, since the alternate path that avoided that guard was not accessible until the frontrunner encountered him.)
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 07, 2012, 12:27:23 PM
As for Shaka Zulu, the Holes of Python had to be a production error. I don't think the producers would give Bobby a layout THAT easy. The treasure chest being opened indicates he definitely would have entered that room instead.

Also, Bobby hits the actuator from the Holes of Python to the Tomb of Ancient Kings twice before the "activated door" sound effect is played. However, he hits that actuator pretty solidly each time. I think that the sound effect was added in after production (especially since the "activated door" noise of the same door sometimes varied between episodes), and they made the door "trigger" a bit later than the first try so that it would give more reason to Bobby hitting the actuator several times.

I'd also like to point out that Kirk says at that point, "That door's not gunna open. You're gunna have to go up." He never said that to any other contestants then the door from the Holes of Python/Swamp/Spider's Lair/Bamboo Forest to the Tomb of Ancient Kings did not activate. He would always tell the contestants that it was a dead-end and that they would have to go back to the Throne Room/Room of Harmonic Convergence. So (in addition to the treasure chest being opened) since Kirk says to go up, it probably was meant for Bobby to go up to the Treasure Room from the Holes of Python. On a bit of a side note, I wish that the camera had shown whether the Heart Room had opened from the Throne Room, so we could see if he was meant to go up that way (like in so many other Season One episodes) instead of from the Holes of Python to the Treasure Room.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 07, 2012, 12:34:31 PM
I honestly never understood how people like outer space considered that to be a direct path. If the contestant was forced into the direct path route, than I don't consider it a direct path. Which is why I never agreed that Sherra, Leah from "Belle Boyd", and Ryan from "Gwalior" took a direct path.

I really don't like people using the terms "direct path" and "beelining," especially since the contestants often had few decisions of where to go once they entered the temple (most prominently in Season Three). And as far as Seasons One and Two go, most of the "direct paths" could have very easily not been dead-ends (most often the Spider's Lair/Holes of Python/Swamp/Bamboo Forest). That room never led up to the Treasure Room, even though the production team could have utilized that doorway, instead of having the team go back to the Throne Room, up to the Heart Room, and then across the upper floor. And I feel like the Pit/Wall Climb in Season One and early in Season Two worked the same way. From the Wall Climb, it took the contestants the least amount of time to just run along the bottom and try the door to the Throne Room. If it didn't open, then they would use time to climb the wall. Why would they bother wasting time climbing first, especially if those upper doors didn't end up opening and they were forced to go down? That would have wasted their time, and people on this site would probably criticize them for doing so. It would be a lose-lose situation.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 07, 2012, 08:51:31 PM
After watching the "Shaka Zulu" run a few times, it makes me wonder if Bobby forced the door open to the Tomb of the Ancient Kings. Right after he hit the actuator for the door on the left (the one he entered the Tomb of the Ancient Kings with), you can here a small noise which sounds like Bobby trying to force the door open. It wasn't the first time this happened, I thought that Billy from "Lost Hammer" also forced the same door open too.

And I am not too fond of the whole "direct path" thing either. The only time I ever hold the direct path against someone is when it is seriously detrimental to their run. Take runs like "The Electrified Key of Benjamin Franklin" and "The Jeweled Necklace of Montezuma", where if the players didn't take the direct path, they would've had a successful solo victory. I never really try to give a season one team a hard time for taking a direct path. I mean sure teams like the "Leonardo Da Vinci" and "Stone Marker" kids got caught up in bad deadends in their temple runs for taking the direct path. But they were from season one and didn't now better at all. And I blame this one the producers for banking on these kids too much for the direct path.

Some people even go as far sometimes to criticize a team for taking a direct path even when the team wins. I mean teams like "The Helmet of Genghis Khan" and "The Lucky Medallion of Atocha" took a direct path and they still won. And people seem to think that Missy and Lea from "Sultan Saladin" were flawed contestants just for taking the direct path.

The only problem with the direct path is that it usually adds an additional temple guard encounter on the team's route to the artifact. Sometimes it adds a couple of more room objectives also. But really, the teams were racing against the clock in the temple and probably just entered the closest door that was unlocked. And like you mentioned, a lot of teams liked the lower door in the Pit because it saved them time from climbing the wall. At the end of the day, there is only probably a dozen or so teams I probably nail for a direct path. But then again, that is not really the number one reason why they lost probably anyways,
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Silver Monkey on October 07, 2012, 09:35:38 PM
I don't consider "Atocha" to be a direct path. I do consider "Emiliano Zapata" to be one, though, and we all know how thrilling that run was.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 07, 2012, 10:59:11 PM
I didn't mean "Atocha", I don't even know why I said that one. :?: But yeah, "Emiliano Zapata" also had a direct path all the way to the artifact. But the path was pretty much set like that, so I don't hold it against the Green Monkeys and they won in the end anyways. And yes, that run was definitely a thriller down to literally the last second.  :mrgreen:

Even some temple losses where we criticize for a team taking a direct path were temple runs where the direct path was the only choice anyways. I mean the direct path was the only choice for runs like "The Keys to the Alhambra", "The Mush Pot Hat of Johnny Appleseed", and "The Mystical Spellbook of the Imperial Wizard". Its not like those teams had other choices. Although it is possible that the "Alhambra" team might've had an alternate route on the top floor. But the Heart Room-Golden Idols door was locked for Lisa...  :o
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 07, 2012, 11:03:48 PM
Here are some more interesting photos I have found:

From Blackbeard's Treasure Map:




This is certainly an "interesting" photo is which one of the contestants is scratching her butt. And it was never edited out. I know this is a rather pointless photo, but I thought it would be worth sharing nonetheless.

From The Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King:




In this photo, why is "The Useless Map of the Chibcha Chieftain" pinned on the now boarded Cave of Sighs entrance? Probably a possible decoration the production crew was messing around with I suppose.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 07, 2012, 11:05:44 PM
I mean the direct path was the only choice for runs like "The Keys to the Alhambra", "The Mush Pot Hat of Johnny Appleseed", and "The Mystical Spellbook of the Imperial Wizard". Its not like those teams had other choices. Although it is possible that the "Alhambra" team might've had an alternate route on the top floor. But the Heart Room-Golden Idols door was locked for Lisa...  :o
You mean "The Lost Taj Mahal Turban of Aurangzeb?" Although I suppose that could apply to the "Imperial Wizard" episode as well.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 07, 2012, 11:13:04 PM
Oh wow PPF, you took the whole "interesting photo" thread to a whole new level.  :lol: Seriously, I can't believe I never noticed that butt pick at all. That photo is hilarious and makes that pitiful episode even more hilarious.

And yes, "Lost Taj Mahal Turban" works also. Both that run and "Imperial Wizard" had the exact same path all the way to the artifact on the top floor. In both runs, both teams were forced on the top floor all the way to the Shrine. And like "Johnny Appleseed", those teams were forced down into the lower left hand corner room.

Here is one more image I want to post:




This image is taken from "The Keys to the Alhambra", the moment that Lisa enters the Tomb of the Ancient Kings. If you notice, all the golden doors in the room are open even though she hasn't even opened the sarcophagus in the middle of the room. The problem was that this room was not like this when Steve entered the room. Lisa even tries the key to the Shrine too, so its not like she didn't even know where to go. For whatever the reason, the golden door leading to the Shrine was already open. This might've confused her and caused her to backtrack for whatever reason. I am not saying that it was excusable for her poor performance, but she did TRY to go up to the Shrine. I wonder why the golden doors are like that anyways.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: GreenMonkeys#1 on October 08, 2012, 07:13:57 AM
When I saw the Alhambra episode, the Shrine door was opened, why didn't she use it? But It might be like the Kilimanjaro episode when the Gold door was opened but the Shrine wasn't.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 08, 2012, 09:44:32 AM
I think that the doors being open in the Tomb of Ancient Kings in the "Keys to the Alhambra" run had to do with the production crew. I have some very interesting photos from this room, and I have come across some unusual findings (photos courtesy video posted by OlmecFan25 on youtube.com):




The upper left photo was taken when Steve first entered the Tomb of Ancient Kings. Notice that all of the doors on the back wall are closed to begin with. The middle golden door on the back wall holds the temple guard, and it is not open yet because this was taken just before the guard came out. The lower left photo was taken as the guard came out from behind the doors. Notice that as he comes out, the far left golden door (the one that leads to the Shrine of the Silver Monkey) becomes ajar. The upper right photo was taken as the guard was taking Steve away from the temple. I know it is a bit hard to see in this photo, but the far left door is barely in the photo on the left, and the middle and far right doors are more prominent in the center of the photo. What is interesting to note is that the guard is "tangoing" with him not to the middle door, but the one on the far right.

The lower right photo was taken as Lisa entered the room. All of the doors are ajar. The far left door on the back wall was opened when the temple guard came out from hiding. The middle door on the back wall was ajar because the guard burst through to capture Steve. When the guard took Steve out of the temple, he led him to the far right door, which explains why that one was opened. The door on the right-hand side of the room is open because that was the door that gained access to the Tomb of Ancient Kings from the Spider's Lair.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 08, 2012, 11:26:24 AM
Interesting observations, PP4L on the "Alhambra" run. I never noticed the temple guard taking Steve out of the temple through a different door than the one he came out of to capture Steve. That explains why both of the golden doors on the far right were open when Lisa entered the room. I guess those golden doors in the back of the room served as a purpose other than being decoration too.

I am not sure how the Shrine door got propped open though. Unless it was something due to the temple guard bumping into it and breaking it. Or perhaps the entire room was meant to be a deadend? I highly doubt that though. And Lisa did try to use the key to the Shrine too. So its not like she didn't know that she had to go up there. But we never hear a sound effect at all when she uses the key. Or maybe the door to the Shrine did open, and the sound effect never played at all. Who knows?

And yes, this sort of phenomenon occurred in "The Snow Cone of Mt. Kilimanjaro" also. But in that run, it looked like Heather forced the door open. And I think that door was suppose to be locked anyways. Unlike the "Alhambra" team, Heather had the option to plow through the wall. Its funny how both of these episodes have so many similarities: Both episodes were Red/Silver, both frontrunners were males who met temple guards at the bottom of the central shaft and golden doors room, both second runners never made any additional progress towards the artifact, and both females encountered a locked door to the Shrine in the golden doors room. And both teams were beyond pathetic. :roll: Except for Steve.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 08, 2012, 04:51:57 PM
One thing that I find interesting about the "Smashed Printing Plate of Frederick Douglass" episode is that Kirk swears that the teams are searching for a "Smashing Printing Press." Also, when Olmec reveals its location, he calls the room "The Tomb of Ancient Kings" instead of the "Tomb of the Headless Kings." Kind of a throwback from Season One, eh?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 08, 2012, 06:21:50 PM
One thing that I find interesting about the "Smashed Printing Plate of Frederick Douglass" episode is that Kirk swears that the teams are searching for a "Smashing Printing Press." Also, when Olmec reveals its location, he calls the room "The Tomb of Ancient Kings" instead of the "Tomb of the Headless Kings." Kind of a throwback from Season One, eh?

Kirk says that quite a few times about certain artifacts on the show. He kept calling "The Medal of Sir Edmund Hillary" as "The Pendant" and called "Robin Hood and Marian's Ladder" as the "Silk Ladder" even though Olmec never mentioned "Silk" at all. But then again, sometimes it made sense too. I mean the "Smash Printing Plate" was essentially a broken plate. And Robin Hood and Marian's Ladder was made of silk.

And yeah, Olmec sometimes blunders the room names also. He called the "Bamboo Forest" the "Bamboo Swamp" in "The Stolen Arm of Shiva". I always loved how Kirk called the Mine Shaft in season two the "Well", even towards the end of the season.  :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 08, 2012, 06:52:04 PM
Here is another thing I wanted to bring up even though some might already know about it:




These images are from "The Treasure of Anne Bonny". Cheater/Ron never completed the Treasury of the Golden Orbs objective at all. He never tries to touch an orb at all in the room and all he does is try the supposedly inactive actuator to the Shrine. The weird part is that after the Cheater tries pressing the Shrine actuator, the camera cuts to Fred and Kirk and then all of a sudden we hear a noise and the Cheater is in the Shrine. And to further prove that Ron never touched an orb, the bottom images show that none of the Golden Orbs switched places and none of them are on the pedestals. I wonder how that happened?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: GreenMonkeys#1 on October 08, 2012, 06:57:39 PM
Ackward, as is this next photo

The Actuator is still there? but why?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 08, 2012, 07:02:05 PM
You can see that throughout season two and three. For whatever reason, the producers just left the actuators in certain rooms intact but they were inactive and never worked. Rooms like King's Storeroom, Medusa's Lair, Room of the Mandarin Hand, and Jester's Court (Season 2 version) kept the actuators in the room even though they had no uses. And this did throw some contestants off sometimes.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 08, 2012, 11:02:33 PM
Yeah, the actuators were still present in Season Two, even if they were inactive. In Season Three, they replaced the actuators with metal plates because the rooms all had objectives that opened the next sequence of doors (except for the Ledges and the Quicksand Bog/Shrine which still used actuators).
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 09, 2012, 01:04:10 AM
There was also an actuator next to the door leading to the Quicksand Bog from the Room of the Secret Password. However, I am pretty sure the actuator was inactive so I don't know why it was there in the first place.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 09, 2012, 09:40:36 AM
There was also an actuator next to the door leading to the Quicksand Bog from the Room of the Secret Password. However, I am pretty sure the actuator was inactive so I don't know why it was there in the first place.

It's interesting that you mention that, because I always knew it was there, but I thought that the actuator was used to open up the cabinets.

During the temple overview in Season Three, you can clearly see that the actuator is there:




But in "The Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean," it is clear that Kelli physically opens the cabinets with her hands... What's funny is that I've owned this episode on VHS forever and I've seen it so many times, yet I never realized that.




Photos courtesy video posted by OlmecFan25 on youtube.com.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 09, 2012, 05:28:57 PM
The funny thing too about the actuator being there is that it wasn't there before in season one or two. My only guess on why it was there though because there was an actuator on the other side of the door for contestants to use when entering the Secret Password from the Quicksand Bog.

I always thought it was funny to how the doors from the Pit to to the two entrance rooms had actuators next to them also. I don't recall any contestant trying to use those actuators though.  :o
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 14, 2012, 11:20:47 PM
I couldn't get a good shot of it, but in the "Metal Beard of the Egyptian Queen," when Randy traverses up the slide to the Room of the Secret Password, she pushes the door open with her hands. So I don't think that there was an actuator on the door as you've described. The actuator seems to only be on the one side of the door, but I haven't been able to think of any purpose for it.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 15, 2012, 12:17:40 AM
Interesting... I rewatched the run again and it does look like Randy pushed the door open with her hands. I never noticed that detail before or maybe I just wasn't paying attention to it. It looks like Kimberly from "The Broken Trident of Poseidon" did very same thing too with the door. I am going to check the "Benzibab" and "Bandit Queen" run again to see if Kevin and Zac do the same thing.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 15, 2012, 09:57:32 AM
The "Secret Map of the Bandit Queen" didn't show Zac's entry to the Secret Password; the door had already been opened by the time that the camera cut from the slide to the Room of the Secret Password. However, in the "Ruby Earring," it is clear that Kevin uses his hands to push the door open, just like Kimberly and Randy did for their respective runs.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Silver Monkey on October 15, 2012, 12:58:27 PM
Did you check "The Bullet Riddled Handbag of Belle Boyd"?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 15, 2012, 01:39:19 PM
The camera was still on the slide view when the Secret Password door opened in "Belle Boyd," just like in "Secret Map of the Bandit Queen."
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 16, 2012, 07:39:28 PM
For my next set of pictures, I present to you the biggest cheaters on Legends!

"The Treasure of Anne Bonny" - Ron



In this moat, the contestants had to cross it by swimming through a chain of rings/inner tubes. They actually had to be completely on the inner tubes while crossing the moat. However, Ron cheated by basically swimming along side of the inner tubes and it is so obvious that he is not doing it the right way that I am not sure why the spotters didn't send him back. Because of this, he potentially screwed another team out of a spot for the Steps of Knowledge. Definitely the worst cheater out of this list.

"The Snow Cone of Mt. Kilimanjaro" - Heather




When Heather enters the Dark Forest, she attempts to climb up into the Shrine but the cabinet door to the top of the Shrine was locked. Many people think this might have been a production, but it was obvious that Heather forced the door open with her hands. She doesn't even try to use the key to the Shrine at all. Luckily the Shrine door didn't open at the top. And even if it did, its not like this team would've won anyways because they were a lost cause. :roll:

"The Smashed Printing Plate of Frederick Douglass" - Jason



In the "cross the Underground Railroad" temple game, the teams had to cross the path by jumping on a series of poles in order to reach the other side. If the pole touched the ground, they would have to start over again. Jason of the Red Jaguars tried jumping to the second pole when he clearly was suppose to follow the path pole by pole. Luckily, it was the wrong pole anyways and Dana won it fair and square. But still, way to make the Jaguars look bad... again. :roll:

"The Golden Spider Web of Robert the Bruce" - Jeremy



This one is probably the most "famous" as it was the one that was actually called out by Kirk. Anyways, the objective of the game was for the contestants to reach the top by jumping through the holes in the net. Jeremy of the Green Monkeys jumped through a different opening though that was not meant to be used as the route to the top. Kirk caught him though and he was forced to go back down again. Out of all the cheaters mentioned in this post, this one I find the most forgiving as I think it was just an honest mistake.

And that should be all of the cheats that happened on the show. Feel free to add more if you want.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 16, 2012, 10:02:16 PM
It's hard to get a photo of it, but there was also the fact that in the boys' individual game of "Smashed Printing Plate of Frederick Douglass," Jason continued throwing newspapers when his opponent fell off his bronco. It was never explicitly stated that he wasn't supposed to stop while the other contestant got back up, but it seemed unusual that they allowed him to continue. Either way, Jason got a much higher score, so it probably wouldn't have mattered regardless of whether he was forced to stop throwing newspapers. But I thought I'd mention it anyway.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 16, 2012, 10:50:59 PM
Yeah, that's another example of potential cheating I was gonna bring up. I do think Jason actually did cheat in that game. Even though the rules of the game never said you had to wait for your opponent.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: GreenMonkeys#1 on October 16, 2012, 10:55:27 PM
Tracy from The Snake Bracelet of Cleopatra forced the door in the Observatory to the Treasury Of Golden Orbs, it didn't open, but they still won. Is that a little bit of cheating?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Silver Monkey on October 16, 2012, 11:00:33 PM
I don't think so, since she didn't actually gain access to the Treasury from the Observatory. Also note that the door was still closed after she grabbed the Bracelet.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 17, 2012, 12:44:46 AM
It's hard to get a photo of it, but there was also the fact that in the boys' individual game of "Smashed Printing Plate of Frederick Douglass," Jason continued throwing newspapers when his opponent fell off his bronco. It was never explicitly stated that he wasn't supposed to stop while the other contestant got back up, but it seemed unusual that they allowed him to continue. Either way, Jason got a much higher score, so it probably wouldn't have mattered regardless of whether he was forced to stop throwing newspapers. But I thought I'd mention it anyway.
Yeah, that's another example of potential cheating I was gonna bring up. I do think Jason actually did cheat in that game. Even though the rules of the game never said you had to wait for your opponent.

I forgot about Jason's individual game where he kept throwing the newspaper even after the Purple Parrot boy fell down. Although the rules never really say that the player had to stop and wait until the other player got back on the horse though. I am sure there were other episodes that used the bucking horse game that day. Didn't Katie's temple game in "The Mystical Spellbook of the Imperial Wizard" have the exact same game? And I am pretty sure there is a bucking horse game like that in "Lion-Slashed Jacket", but I don't know if it was the exact same one like "Smashed Printing Plate" and "Imperial Wizard"...

As for Tracy, I don't know if that was really cheating or not. As Count Chocula/TSM said, the Treasury door never opened for her even when she exited the temple. So I don't know if she broke the mechanism or if it was a production error on the producer's part. But I wonder why she tried to go to the Treasury from the Observatory when it was obvious that the only room open was the Fallen Columns... :?:
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 17, 2012, 02:12:15 PM
No. Imperial Wizard did not have that bucking horse game. Katie had the "sinking steps" temple game.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 23, 2012, 09:51:53 AM
This might seem sort of random, but I've had this question for a while now, and I feel like someone might be able to answer it:

In the Moat crossing from "Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean," the first player used an ancient raft to paddle across. The second player had to balance on the raft without touching their partner or falling off. The Purple Parrots were sent back at the very beginning of this episode's Moat because "they touched their partner." Even though I've seen this episode so many times, I've never noticed it myself. To be honest, Kirk even seemed surprised when they headed back: "It looks like the Purple Parrots! Quickly they move across! Nice teamwork and balance! Oh, oh, but they're backing up!?! Oh! They have to go back, he touched his partner!" Can somebody find a screenshot of when it happened?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 23, 2012, 12:43:49 PM
I remember someone brought this up a long time ago. I always assumed that the Purple Parrot boy touched the Purple Parrot girl's feet while trying to turn the raft around. But we don't really see it on camera though as it is panning in on different teams instead. But if you briefly watch the Purple Parrots turn the raft around compared to the other teams turning the raft around, it kind of looks like the Purple Parrot boy touched his partner. I am not 100% sure though if this was the case but I do remember the spotter sending them back when they were halfway across the moat, so I am sure they messed up somewhere.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 25, 2012, 10:36:17 AM
I've got another seemingly random question regarding the Tomb of the Headless Kings: The "bones" fell from the ceiling of the room each time that the contestants pulled on the vines. At the end of each episode, how were the bones collected and put back into the ceiling compartments? The bottoms of the compartments (where the bones fell out of) couldn't be open, or the bones would fall right back through to the floor. So then how did they get the bones back in?

Might there have been an entryway from a trapped door on the floor of the Chamber of the Sacred Markers that fed into the ceiling compartments in the Tomb of the Headless Kings? Or possibly the side of the compartments were capable of being opened so that the bones could be replaced? Any other ideas?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 30, 2012, 07:57:32 PM



This picture was taken from "The Golden Cup of Belshazzar". If you notice on the left when Kirk is introducing the two teams, there is a TV screen on a cart. Nothing spectacular about this photo, I just thought it was an interesting find and shows you how badly edited the first few Legends episodes were.  :P
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 30, 2012, 09:36:57 PM
They had that in a lot of Season 1 episodes, especially in the "soapy ramp/grab artifact from the top" games. Also in that picture, next to the mine shaft that Sean is in, what's with the red and purple stuff on the floor? Are those the wind breaker jackets that Katherine and her opponent are supposed to wear? If that's the case, I wonder why they aren't wearing it in their "watery ramp" temple game.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 30, 2012, 11:48:59 PM
I am not sure what those Red and Purple things are suppose to be. Watching the episode again, it kind of looks similar to the windbreakers they wore in season one. Maybe Katherine/Purple Parrot girl were suppose to be wearing them? It was the first temple games ever on the show though, so they probably forgot to use them.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 31, 2012, 02:12:47 PM
Yeah, that's probably it. Although, I'm pretty sure those same Red and Purple things were also seen during the temple games for "Galileo's Cannonball" as well. Why, I don't know. Also, notice how Katherine and the Purple Parrot girl were wearing just water shorts during the temple games? Must have been just part of that "first episode" quirk.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 31, 2012, 03:43:03 PM
Yeah, that's probably it. Although, I'm pretty sure those same Red and Purple things were also seen during the temple games for "Galileo's Cannonball" as well. Why, I don't know. Also, notice how Katherine and the Purple Parrot girl were wearing just water shorts during the temple games? Must have been just part of that "first episode" quirk.

Didn't that happen in a Season 1 episode later in the season? Maybe it was in "Gordian Knot"?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 31, 2012, 06:56:42 PM
Yeah, that's probably it. Although, I'm pretty sure those same Red and Purple things were also seen during the temple games for "Galileo's Cannonball" as well. Why, I don't know. Also, notice how Katherine and the Purple Parrot girl were wearing just water shorts during the temple games? Must have been just part of that "first episode" quirk.

Didn't that happen in a Season 1 episode later in the season? Maybe it was in "Gordian Knot"?
In "Gordian Knot," for the rock climbing game, the players had to wear yellow sweatpants instead of their shorts. And they wore the sweatpants for the whole round too. Methinks this was done to reduce the scratches contestants got from that game.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 19, 2012, 12:55:04 PM



This image is taken from the credits for "The Pearl Necklace of Gwalior". I never noticed this before, but if you look in Ryan's left hand, he is holding a tissue. Its not anything significant or noteworthy, but I never saw any other contestant holding one on camera. Perhaps he was sick or was crying? Just thought it was interesting.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on November 19, 2012, 02:06:06 PM



Well his left eye seemed a little swollen, as seen in this picture (courtesy video posted by ChargerTheWolf on youtube.com). Perhaps the tissue thing was given to him for something going on with his eye?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on November 19, 2012, 03:39:48 PM
He did look pretty pissed off after losing, so maybe he was crying? And like PP4L said, his eyes did look swollen and red. I guess after a long day of filming and coming so close to reaching the artifact but losing, I could see how that would upset him.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 19, 2012, 04:30:53 PM
Not to mention, it was usually a long day for those kids that make it to the temple. By then, they are probably worn out and exhausted. Even Tiffani looked like she was about to fall apart at the end of her temple run. As for Ryan, I can definitely see the puffiness in his left eye. I never noticed this before either. He did look pissed off too during the credits. Its not like they would've won anyways, Dawn was so slow and she should've been able to grab the Pearl Necklace. I am surprised though that rarely any contestant is showed crying on camera. Missy was crying, but that was more tears of joy. Hallie looked like she was about cry at the end of her temple run too.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on November 19, 2012, 04:54:18 PM
Unrelated to the Pearl Necklace of Gwalior, I watched the Mussel Shell Armor episode recently and came across this interesting camera shot during the credits. As you can see, the camera is doing a panoramic sweep of the whole temple and captures a view of "what lies beyond the temple." There's nothing specific to speculate about; I just thought it was neat. Photo courtesy video posted on youtube.com by ChargerTheWolf.


Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 20, 2012, 12:42:24 PM
Good find, I love when we see views of the temple that we normally don't. In this case, the camera even goes slightly off the temple's set. I always wondered how it was like to watch a temple run from the audience's view? It definitely wouldn't be the same that we are use to. Would be nice though to see how it looked from that angle.  :o
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on November 20, 2012, 12:51:20 PM
Good find, I love when we see views of the temple that we normally don't. In this case, the camera even goes slightly off the temple's set. I always wondered how it was like to watch a temple run from the audience's view? It definitely wouldn't be the same that we are use to. Would be nice though to see how it looked from that angle.  :o

Well, for the people sitting perpendicular to the Moat, they would not have seen the temple, would they? Those seats were directly next to the steps to enter the temple, and then the temple itself only slightly arched around. So I'm not sure if they actually would have had a good view, or if there were just teleprompters or something of the sort giving them a view of the "arena" (I remember there being a discussion elsewhere on this site that asked what the word for where the Temple Games were played, and Kirk Fogg used the term "arena" in one episode, so that's what I'll use).
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on November 22, 2012, 09:18:12 PM
Here are two interesting photos after two temple runs.

First, I present to you Larry's walk of shame after his failure with the Silver Monkey (The Mysterious Manuscript of Mary Shelley) :





And two photos after the temple run for The Discarded Seal of Ivan the Terrible. First pic is what the back of an Ancient Warrior suit looks like. Second pic is Elisa after the suit quickly turned around (almost three seconds later) :


           



Some interesting photos, and they were back to back episodes too. Discarded Seal came first, but I thought Larry's shameful walk was hilarious, so I posted it first. I wonder why the production team did this to two episodes back to back. Seeing the back side of the Ancient Warrior suit is unique. Those black slots look like where the temple guard would put his hands in. It also looks like it had some kind of unique ancient design on it too.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on November 22, 2012, 09:30:13 PM
I have some interesting photos regarding the headdresses in the Room of the Ancient Warriors from the "Smashed Printing Plate" run. In the first photo, it is clear that the temple guard's arms fit though the black fabric slots. In the second photo, the armor flipped back around and the guard's hands can still be seen through the black fabric slots. I chose this episode's run because the guard's hands did a little "wave" during the second photo, and I like to go back and get a chuckle from it. It's the one thing about this run that I find enjoyably funny. Photos courtesy video on youtube.com posted by ChargerTheWolf.


 
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: GreenMonkeys#1 on December 03, 2012, 06:20:20 PM
Here's another interesting photo in the Room of the Ancient Warriors in The Battle Flag of William the Conqueror episode.

If you can see something near the bottom right of the room, what or who is it?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on December 03, 2012, 06:21:47 PM
Looks like a camera guy. You could see them in the camera frame once in a while.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on December 03, 2012, 06:47:21 PM
Speaking of moments including cameramen, how about this one from The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain?




And a few seconds later from the same run:




First one has the red circle I drew. That's clearly a cameraman. The second picture looks like his camera had a cord plugged into it. I always found these two pictures to be odd. They're just unusual. Imagine if Jarrid had tripped over that cord. There would be lawsuits if that cord somehow cost him the win or gave him an injury. :P
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on December 03, 2012, 07:36:26 PM
Yep, that is indeed a cameraman in GM1's photo. The cameramen were bound to show up in some frames in one episode or another.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 03, 2012, 08:32:10 PM
Yeah, right when GM1 posted the camera man image from "William the Conqueror" I immediately thought of the camera man in the "Pirate Captain" episode running on the top floor of the temple while Jarrid was escaping. I remember some people thought that was a temple guard too.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on December 27, 2012, 11:50:11 AM



First one has the red circle I drew. That's clearly a cameraman. The second picture looks like his camera had a cord plugged into it. I always found these two pictures to be odd. They're just unusual. Imagine if Jarrid had tripped over that cord. There would be lawsuits if that cord somehow cost him the win or gave him an injury. :P

There were several episodes where those cords were within camera shot. I have four other instances below, courtesy video posted on youtube.com by ChargerTheWolf.




The upper left photo was taken in the "Silver Cannonball" run. When Amber smashed the pots in the King's Storeroom, the camera looked down to show the pot hitting the floor. In doing so, it also showed a wire in the lower right-hand corner of the shot.

The upper right photo was taken during the "Golden Earring of Henry Morgan" run. As Shem runs into the King's Storeroom, the camera does a panoramic sweep of the room. Under Shem's shoe, a thick coil of wires can be seen in this shot.

The lower left photo was taken during the "Smashed Printing Plate" run, when Jason first enters the Room of the Ancient Warriors. Cords can be seen taped to the floor throughout the entire room.

The lower right photo was taken as Kristen grabbed the "Jewel-Encrusted Egg." In the very bottom right corner, underneath the middle armor, a bundle of wires can be seen on the floor.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on December 27, 2012, 04:05:19 PM
Plus, sometimes you'd see camera people in the temple. Some used to confuse the camera/stage hands as temple guards walking around.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on December 27, 2012, 04:11:53 PM
Plus, sometimes you'd see camera people in the temple. Some used to confuse the camera/stage hands as temple guards walking around.

But the temple guards were assigned to specific rooms, and they were stationed behind doors or hidden beneath Styrofoam blocks (Swamp, Quicksand Bog) so that they could not be seen until they were going in for the capture...
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 28, 2012, 02:18:46 PM
Just a random picture:




This image was taken from "The Golden Jaguar of Atahualpa". Notice that there are two giant rocks covering the top of the coffin in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings. Usually, these rocks are only there when there is an artifact located in that room. But the Golden Jaguar was located in the Treasure Room, so they should technically not be there. My guess is that those rocks are from "The Mask of Shaka Zulu" where the artifact was located in the Tomb, and Shaka Zulu was taped directly before Atahualpa. Since Bobby hardly entered any rooms of the temple, the producers probably didn't bother "cleaning up" the temple much for the next team, so they just left the rocks on top of the sarcophagus. It's nothing special really, I just wanted to point it out though. :P
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on December 28, 2012, 04:47:40 PM
That is a very interesting photo. Good observation. Perhaps the producers forgot which run they were taping next and the path they wanted the team to take, so instead of locking the door from the Holes of Python to the Tomb of Ancient Kings for the "Shaka Zulu" run, they left it unlocked, thinking it was time to create the path meant for the "Atahualpa" run.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on January 01, 2013, 08:25:07 PM
This photo may have come up in other topics in the past, so I'm sorry if this has already been mentioned elsewhere. I was watching the King Tut's Cobra Staff recently, and during the announcing of the prizes, they showed the following camera angle. Photo courtesy video posted on youtube.com by ChargerTheWolf.




A temple guard can clearly be seen squatting in the corner of the Cave of Sighs. Eusinia and David entered the temple through the Room of the Royal Gongs and avoided the Cave of Sighs altogether. However, given Eusinia's ability to backtrack from the Throne Room to Wheel Room, it seems as though there was a second viable path along the bottom floor that would have merged at the Heart Room (similarly to the "Treasure Map of Jean Lafitte" run). The team encountered the other two guards in the Heart Room and Shrine of the Silver Monkey, and the half pendant was located on the actuator leading from the Treasure Room to the Shrine. Therefore, they entered the temple through the Cave of Sighs, Eusinia would have been taken out in the Heart Room, and David would have been the one to hit the actuator to the Shrine of the Silver Monkey, more than likely grabbing the half pendant and using it in the following room.

Do you think that this team would have fared better and been more successful if they took the alternate route, causing Eusinia to be taken out of the temple sooner? Or was this run destined to end as an "artifact reached" run no matter which route the team took?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on January 01, 2013, 09:39:40 PM
It was pretty obvious that the Cave of Sighs temple guard was put there as a "direct path trick." However, I think the team would have had a better chance at winning had Eusinia been taken out sooner. Just as long as David grabbed the half pendant and used it in the Shrine. Even though the Cave would have been a useless detour, a win could have still been plausible.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on January 01, 2013, 10:18:52 PM
It was pretty obvious that the Cave of Sighs temple guard was put there as a "direct path trick." However, I think the team would have had a better chance at winning had Eusinia been taken out sooner. Just as long as David grabbed the half pendant and used it in the Shrine. Even though the Cave would have been a useless detour, a win could have still been plausible.

I'm not so sure about the guard being a "direct path trick." There were plenty of times where the temple guard was housed in the entrance that was opposite to a "direct path" (as much as I dislike the term), such as the "Star of Sultan Saladin" run. And it does not seem that the Cave of Sighs was necessarily a useless detour. Given the fact that the doors opened from the Heart Room to the Throne Room and from the Throne Room to the Wheel Room, it would make sense that there were two viable entrance paths that converged at the Heart Room. Such an occurrence would not have been out of the question, as it happened in the "Treasure Map of Jean Lafitte" run.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 02, 2013, 01:54:07 AM
I think the "King Tut" Cave of Sighs guard being a direct path guard makes perfect sense. The Cobra Staff was on the lower level of the temple and if the team did make a break for the direct path, the consequence would've been an additional temple guard. In this case, the Cave of Sighs was on the lower floor of the temple, and a lot of S1 teams loved to use this room. It was just like the "Sir Edmund Hillary" run where the Medal was on the top floor and the encountered an additional temple guard in the Gargoyle Room as a result for trying the direct path.

Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 02, 2013, 01:59:41 AM
Someone needs to get a shot of the Cave of Sighs in the " :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:" run though. I am really interested if there was actually a guard in there that Jeremy and Erika might've avoided.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on January 02, 2013, 09:36:51 AM
Someone needs to get a shot of the Cave of Sighs in the " :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:" run though. I am really interested if there was actually a guard in there that Jeremy and Erika might've avoided.

This shot is from the Silk Ladder episode, while they were announcing the prizes. Notice the lack of a temple guard in the Cave of Sighs. Photo courtesy video posted on youtube.com by ChargerTheWolf.




I also did a frame-by-frame analysis of the Observatory when Jeremy was exiting the temple to see if there was any indication of a temple guard in that room. I don't know how clearly the photos below show the Observatory, but upon watching the episode at 0:58-0:57, there appears to be a brief, shiny blur moving across the open wall in the back of the Observatory. I have marked the areas in question with red boxes. This easily could be a temple guard's headdress. If you watch the video for yourself, it may be much clearer to see. In the upper left photo, the headdress is not yet in view, and by the lower right photo three frames later, it is already out of view again. However, the other two photos (the two frames in between) show an out-of-place glint.


Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 02, 2013, 12:14:57 PM
Thank you for the pictures, that cleared up the Cave of Sighs guard for me. ;)

As for the Observatory, its hard to tell if the temple guard was in there after rewatching the run. To me though, the Observatory seems like the only logical place for that last temple guard. Unless there was another alternate route in the Treasure Room to the Holes of Python. But that doesn't make sense though because the Shrine door was unlocked anyways. Its a really weird layout and I wish the producers would've revealed the temple guard locations at the end of every temple run. That would've been pretty neat.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on January 02, 2013, 01:50:09 PM
Thank you for the pictures, that cleared up the Cave of Sighs guard for me. ;)

As for the Observatory, its hard to tell if the temple guard was in there after rewatching the run. To me though, the Observatory seems like the only logical place for that last temple guard. Unless there was another alternate route in the Treasure Room to the Holes of Python. But that doesn't make sense though because the Shrine door was unlocked anyways. Its a really weird layout and I wish the producers would've revealed the temple guard locations at the end of every temple run. That would've been pretty neat.

I doubt that there would have been an alternate route through the Holes of Python. The door was clearly closed from the Throne Room, and there was no need for the Treasure Room to be unlocked to the Holes of Python since the Shrine opened directly. Not only does that narrow down the possible final temple guard location down to the Observatory, there was also the glint of a headdress in the Observatory.

There were three guard costumes used throughout all of Season 1: one with a gold mask and a necklace with several golden pendants; one with a black mask and a leopard-print shawl; and one with a green mask and a feathery red and green headdress. All three guards were encountered in the Medal of Sir Edmund Hillary run, and all had relatively clear screenshots (photos courtesy video posted on youtube.com by ChargerTheWolf):







Some of the guards tended to reside in the same rooms, as Micheal Lupin disclosed during an interview regarding being a temple guard during Season 3. As shown in the bottom left photo in the lower set of photos, in Season 1, the gold-masked guard was always housed in the Cave of Sighs. That photo was taken from the "Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress" run.

However, in the "Silk Ladder" that guard was placed in the Throne Room (upper left). If a guard were to have been residing in the Cave of Sighs during this run, that guard would have been stationed there; however, since that guard was in the Throne Room, the Cave of Sighs was clear. The other guard in "Silk Ladder" run (upper right) was the black-masked guard. The only guard left was the green-masked guard.

The bottom right photo is a very clear, up-close shot of this guard from the "Codebook of Mata Hari" run. As you can see, this guard had a very distinct, shiny, gold pendant-shaped emblem on his headdress, surrounded by green and red feathers. If you compare the other, earlier photo of the Observatory from the "Silk Ladder" run, the glint could very easily have been from that emblem. Additionally, there is a faint, dark shadow around the glint that could have been from the feathers on the headdress.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 27, 2013, 12:59:56 AM
Here's an interesting shot:




This is a camera shot of the entire audience in "The Plumed Headdress of Cosa Rara". I thought this image was interesting because I don't recall the show ever giving us a close-up shot of the audience. This was taken right after the final temple game for reference.

And while we are talking about "Cosa Rara", did anyone else notice that Kirk kept calling Jessica as "Jessie" throughout the temple run? I don't recall her ever saying that was a nickname. Not even Olmec called her Jessie at all. Oh Kirk, you are too much sometimes.  :roll:
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 16, 2013, 01:23:20 AM
I have a question, but I can't provide an image at this time because Youtube is not working.  :(  :cry:

During Christina's temple game "The Secret Battle Plan of Nathan Hale", the two players had to spell out "Attack Philadelphia" by climbing a web and placing the letters next to each other in order to spell the phrase out. When Kirk is counting up the letters that both players got, he counts four complete letters apiece for Christina and Green Monkey boy. But then he rips off one of Christina's pieces and says that it doesn't count. Why did it not count at all? I am pretty sure she got the piece in time. Had he counted it, then both players would've tied the temple games. And with the temple game tie, the Silver Snakes would've went to the temple with two pendants. So what exactly happened during the Attack Philadelphia game?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 16, 2013, 01:38:11 AM
It didn't count because the sign/piece was apparently on backwards. And it had to be in a perfect/readable spot for it to count. Which I thought was a very stupid rule. If the game was at least a tie, the Silver Snakes would have gone to the temple with 2 pendants. And then a triple capture wouldn't have happened when it eventually did come time to film their temple run.

EDIT: Here's the upside down sign. And I don't know what everyone's problem is with YouTube. It's working perfectly fine to me.


Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on February 16, 2013, 09:53:53 AM
Indeed, the "IL" card in "Philadelphia" was upside-down, so Kirk did not count it. As bad of a rule as it was, the same thing sort of thing happened during the team game in "Elizabeth I's Golden Ship." The contestants had to pull themselves to the center of the slippery plane, then transfer sections of a flag from one partner to the other. In order for the flag segments to count, the pieces had to be oriented properly. The Red Jaguars got one piece in the correct position, while the Purple Parrots got none. This allowed the Red Jaguars to go to the temple with 1.5 pendants, but like the "Nathan Hale" run, this run ended in triple capture.

Had the Purple Parrots oriented both of their flag segments correctly, they would have gone to the temple with a score of 1.5-.5 pendants. But had both teams gotten credit for all of the pieces they got to the other side, then the Red Jaguars would have still won that game.


Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 16, 2013, 12:29:11 PM
Yeah, I just rewatched the "Nathan Hale" episode and the "IL" sign was indeed on backwards. I totally forgot about that detail. But Olmec did say during his temple game description that the pieces had to be in the exact order. Technically, Christina's piece was in the correct order but not in the correct position. I agree that it was a pretty stupid rule and they should've counted that temple game a tie. There have been plenty of other temple games where the player put a certain piece out of order and the producers still counted it. And with two pendants in the temple, the temple run wouldn't have ended in triple capture. But I also think that the temple guard layout would be different if the Silver Snakes actually entered the temple with two pendants. Not to mention, Christina should've found the half-pendant either way.

As for the "Golden Ship" episode, the Purple Parrots would've gone to the temple with two pendants if they tied the team game. The Purple Parrot boy beat Joe in the dragon tunnel temple game while Gabby tied her wig game. So if the Purple Parrots at least tied the team game, they would've won 2-1.5 pendant score. But I can forgive the triple capture in the Golden Ship run though because the half-pendant was no where in sight for the Red Jaguars. Although they were kind of slow anyways, so I am not sure how far they would've gone if they found it.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 16, 2013, 03:35:09 PM
I have to completely disagree about the Purple Parrots going to the temple in "Elizabeth the First's Golden Ship." If you look at the above photo, the Red Jaguars had A LOT more pieces on the board than the Purple Parrots. Had that "proper position only" not been enforced, the Red Jaguars still would have gone to the temple 1.5-1. The final score would've been 4-1, not the 1-0 that was counted.
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Post by: The Silver Monkey on February 16, 2013, 04:31:30 PM
Yeah, whether or not that rule was enforced in "Elizabeth I", the outcome wouldn't have changed. As for "Nathan Hale", I don't remember Olmec specifically mentioning the orientation of the pieces while explaining the rules. I agree that since Christina did have that specific piece in the proper position, it should've been a tie. Yes, Christina should've found the half pendant in the temple, but I still think that the Silver Snakes got screwed out of the full pair of pendants thanks to that ruling.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on February 16, 2013, 05:40:51 PM
I have to completely disagree about the Purple Parrots going to the temple in "Elizabeth the First's Golden Ship." If you look at the above photo, the Red Jaguars had A LOT more pieces on the board than the Purple Parrots. Had that "proper position only" not been enforced, the Red Jaguars still would have gone to the temple 1.5-1. The final score would've been 4-1, not the 1-0 that was counted.

What I was trying to say was that had the Purple Parrots oriented their two pieces correctly and the Red Jaguars left all of theirs alone, then the Purple Parrots would have won with a score of 2-1 with the "proper position only" rule in place. In that case, the Purple Parrots would have gone to the temple.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 17, 2013, 01:01:50 AM
The temple games in the "Golden Ship" episode in general were laughable. Take the wig game for example. How did the producers not put four wigs in BOTH players shafts? Gabby was clobbering the Purple Parrot boy in the wig temple game and if the last wig was indeed there, there was no doubt that Gabby would've won. That is season one for you.

And speaking of S1 temple games, I am going to post a series of pictures a little later on why I believe that the Silver Snakes in "Mata Hari" should've NOT gone to the temple due to their temple game victories being questionable. :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Silver Monkey on February 17, 2013, 01:08:47 AM
And speaking of S1 temple games, I am going to post a series of pictures a little later on why I believe that the Silver Snakes should've NOT gone to the temple due to their temple game victories being questionable. :roll:

No doubt "Mata Hari" is one of the episodes in question.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 17, 2013, 01:19:26 AM
Yeah, didn't Kirk declare Rinette "further along" in the wall climbing game than the male Blue Barracuda? Not to mention, in the third temple game, the score was 1-1 tie, and the Silver Snakes were yet again.... "further along," thus gaining them access to the temple. The temple game score should've been Blue Barracudas beating the Silver Snakes 2-1 in the temple games. Though with how pathetic the Blue Barracudas were in the third game, I doubt they would've done a better job in the temple. :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on February 18, 2013, 12:21:42 AM
Yeah, didn't Kirk declare Rinette "further along" in the wall climbing game than the male Blue Barracuda? Not to mention, in the third temple game, the score was 1-1 tie, and the Silver Snakes were yet again.... "further along," thus gaining them access to the temple. The temple game score should've been Blue Barracudas beating the Silver Snakes 2-1 in the temple games. Though with how pathetic the Blue Barracudas were in the third game, I doubt they would've done a better job in the temple. :roll:

Rinette may have been considered "further along" in her individual game because she was higher up on the wall when time ended, therefore making her closer to completing the final book transfer.

In the team game, each team had to pass notes along the dragon tunnel. Perhaps the Silver Snakes got credit for the message they lost, therefore making the score of that game 2-1? And as far as the Blue Barracudas in that game, the boy got half way and then waited for his partner. She could not get over the first bump, so he went to her and gave the message to her at the entry. I don't think the Blue Barracudas would have been a totally loss cause if they had gone to the temple; they probably would have fared as well as the Silver Snakes did.

And I must say that Gareth did a pretty good job of clearing a rather long path. The biggest problem was that he was taken out one room away from the Codebook. Rinette had a long path to follow and was slow to do so, so time ran out on her.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 18, 2013, 01:18:08 AM
Yeah, Gareth did fine IMO. Even though he moved a little slow, he still made good time in the temple. It was an unfair temple guard layout and the only way they would've had a chance to win if they encountered all three guards. His partner seemed a little clueless though. While she had little time to herself, she still wasted it by sitting on the Throne Room chair and took her sweet old time going through the Holes of Python. I am not sure if the Barracudas would've done better with that temple guard layout, but the Barracuda girl ranked very low when THK ranked that episode. She even ranked lower than John and Tia.  :shock:

Oh yeah, and I promise to post the pictures soon. ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on February 22, 2013, 11:24:45 PM
I was watching the "Bullet-Riddled Handbag of Belle Boyd" run, and right at the end of the run, I caught a glimpse of a rather unusual piece of sound/tech equipment, even though the object is out of focus. It can be seen in the lower left corner of the image, courtesy video posted on youtube.com by ChargerTheWolf. It seems to me that there were a number of instances in Season 3 where the camerawork caught images of uncalled for things, this being one of them. What is even more surprising is that I have seen this run quite a lot of times, and this was the first time I noticed the piece of equipment there. I thought I might as well share it here.


Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on March 30, 2013, 10:01:18 PM
I have two photos I wanted to share from the Room of the Ancient Warriors. The first is from when Jason got captured during "Smashed Printing Plate of Frederick Douglass." Notice that after the guard releases Jason, no pendant is seen in either of his hands. Yet Jason does not have his pendant on his wrist anymore. So then where did it go?




This second photo was taken from Andrea's capture during "Lion-Headed Bracelet of Chandragupta." While the headdress is partially turned, there is a faint glimpse of a stagehand standing behind-the-scenes, most likely there to take the pendant. He is outlined in red, but watching the video for yourself will make it more apparent that he is there. So it appears as though the guards in the Ancient Warriors only captured the contestants; it was up to the stagehands to swivel the headdresses, handle the pendants of life, and either guide the contestant who were taken out of the temple through the back to the temple gate or turn the headdress back around.




This "finding" may not be very spectacular or revolutionary, but I thought it was interesting, and I thought I would share. Photos courtesy video posted on youtube.com by ChargerTheWolf.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 31, 2013, 02:04:45 PM
It is interesting where the Pendants go after the player is captured in certain rooms. It does look like Andrea is handing her Pendant to a stagehand or somebody in the back. I guess it was more difficult for the contestants to hand their Pendants to the temple guards in the Room of the Ancient Warriors. It was just like the Dark Forest where the contestants were confused on where their Pendants should go. Some would put the Pendants into the tree while others would just throw it on the ground. Either way, good find. ;)
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Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on April 03, 2013, 08:15:55 PM
While Olmec was telling the location of the Jeweled Scabbard of Sforza, the middle armor in the Room of the Ancient Warriors was swiveled. I had never noticed it until a recent viewing of the episode Again, not a major find, but I thought it would be something worth noting and sharing. Image courtesy video posted on youtube.com by ChargerTheWolf.


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Post by: The Silver Monkey on April 03, 2013, 11:24:17 PM
I wonder if it was like that in "The Jewel Encrusted Egg of Catherine the Great" (same artifact location and same filming day) as well.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on April 03, 2013, 11:34:18 PM
I wonder if it was like that in "The Jewel Encrusted Egg of Catherine the Great" (same artifact location and same filming day) as well.

The middle armor was slightly askew during the presentation of the "Jewel-Encrusted Egg," not completely swiveled around like it was for the "Jeweled Scabbard of Sforza." But that was a good question, and I was curious myself. Image courtesy video posted on yotuube.com by ChargerTheWolf.


Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 06, 2013, 02:41:34 PM
That is actually a pretty interesting find, PP4L. I went back and checked the other Ancient Warrior artifacts (Belle Boyd, Snow Cone :oops:, and William Tell :oops:) and none of them had that headdress turned around like in the Sforza/Catherine the Great picture. I do woner why they have it turned around like that also.

Actually, I wonder why they had two artifacts in the same room for the same production day? Did that happen on any other production day besides the Sforza/Catherine the Great one?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 06, 2013, 03:07:28 PM
Dead Man's Hand and Galileo's Cannonball were both in the Mine Shaft. Both in S1L1 temple.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 06, 2013, 04:59:30 PM
Forgot about those two, even though that should've been the obvious one for me. Another that also works is the Snake Bracelet/Treasure of Anne Bonny both being in the Torch Room.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on April 06, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
Madame Tussaud and Gwalior were back to back in the Quicksand Bog. I don't recall if that was the same production day or if it was the last episode of one day and the first of the next.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 06, 2013, 06:20:46 PM
Madame Tussaud was last of its day, Gwalior was first the following day. Also, after temple game 3 of Catherine the Great, you can see The Jeweled Scabbard of Sforza in the Room of the Ancient Warriors.




I know it's small, but that's the closest I can come to a screencap. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on April 06, 2013, 07:10:27 PM
That is most definitely the Scabbard. Not only is it the proper shape and size, the middle Ancient Warriors headdress is turned like it was in my screencap.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 07, 2013, 12:55:46 AM
Didn't the producers usually keep the artifacts from the same production day out at the same time for the earlier rounds of the temple? So that means, the Ruby Earring was probably out there also since it was produced the same day as those two were. I wonder how they did it with the Jewel-Encrusted Egg/Jeweled Scabbard sharing the same room. Maybe they had to rotate them out throughout the day?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on April 07, 2013, 07:18:05 PM
It was mentioned somewhere on this site, or perhaps as a comment on youtube.com, that it seemed that whenever the Shrine of the Silver Monkey was shown while Olmec announced the location of the artifact, the Silver Monkey was assembled. While I find that this is true in most cases, I wanted to just mention that "Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean" is an exception to that rule.




As you can see from the image above, courtesy video posted on youtube.com by ChargerTheWolf, the Silver Monkey was not assembled when Olmec revealed the Gavel's location.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 07, 2013, 07:25:52 PM
I am sure there were a few other episodes where the Silver Monkey wasn't fully assembled either. Although I wonder if the other episodes that day (Tokugawa, Bandit Queen, and Chandragupta) had the Monkey assembled?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on April 07, 2013, 07:56:02 PM
The other episodes from that day, as well as "Snow Cone of Mt. Kilimanjaro" (the first episode of the next day) all featured the Silver Monkey disassembled when the artifact locations were shown. The Silver Monkey was also not assembled for "Bifocal Monocle of One-Eyed Jack" and "Much-Heralded Helmet of Sir Gawain." The room was not again shown during artifact location displays until "Mystical Spellbook of the Imperial Wizard," and the Silver Monkey was once again not assembled. So unlike that comment, the Silver Monkey was not assembled beforehand in most cases. The first time the Silver Monkey was assembled for the artifact display (from what I could find) was the "Bullet-Riddled Handbag of Belle Boyd," which meant that it was only for the final two production days in Season 3. Images courtesy video posted on youtube.com by ChargerTheWolf.


Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 07, 2013, 08:18:46 PM
I am sure there were a few other episodes where the Silver Monkey wasn't fully assembled either. Although I wonder if the other episodes that day (Tokugawa, Bandit Queen, and Chandragupta) had the Monkey assembled?
Tokugawa wasn't on Bandit Queen's filming day. It was Chandragupta/Lion Slashed Jacket/Bandit Queen/Thornwood Gavel.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 08, 2013, 04:10:48 PM
I remember a long time ago, a couple of users kept posting that "The Bent Shaving Pan of Jedediah Smith" artifact could be found in the King's Storeroom during the credits of "The Mussel-Shell Armor of Apanuugpak" run. I was always curious about this and checked the "Apanuugpak" credits dozens of times. Did anyone here ever see the Bent Shaving Pan in the King's Storeroom at all during the Apanuugpak run? It never really added up for me though considering the Bent Shaving Pan was aired much earlier in the season than Apanuugpak. Here is a shot of the King's Storeroom of the Apanuugpak run below and I don't see the Bent Shaving Pan at all. Has anyone here seen it at all or am I not looking at the correct point of that temple run?


 (http://s210.photobucket.com/user/tweesterreo/media/musselshellarmor-bentshavingpan_zpsb0738396.png.html)
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 08, 2013, 05:22:43 PM
That "object" right next to the name "Walters" in the photo does not look like the Bent Shaving Pan at all. That looks WAY too big to be a Shaving Pan, and it's not one of those "awkward edits" you often see in the closing credits. I remember Olmec used to point that out all the time in the Daily Episode Log. And like you said, Bent Shaving Pan came way before Apanuugpak.

One other thing I find interesting in that photo, is that tan piece of paper right next to the "Debra Rush" name. What is that supposed to be? I know it's not the Mussel Shell Armor, since all the doors are opened in that photo.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on May 08, 2013, 06:14:05 PM
That "object" right next to the name "Walters" in the photo does not look like the Bent Shaving Pan at all. That looks WAY too big to be a Shaving Pan, and it's not one of those "awkward edits" you often see in the closing credits. I remember Olmec used to point that out all the time in the Daily Episode Log. And like you said, Bent Shaving Pan came way before Apanuugpak.

As far as I can tell, that "object" is one of the clay pots.

One other thing I find interesting in that photo, is that tan piece of paper right next to the "Debra Rush" name. What is that supposed to be? I know it's not the Mussel Shell Armor, since all the doors are opened in that photo.

That "tan piece of paper" is actually the wallpaper on the wall behind the cover where the temple guard hides. If you continue watching the credits at that point, the camera angle changes to the image below (image courtesy video posted on youtube.com by OlmecFan25). The spotlight that was originally shining on the Mussel-Shell Armor stayed on. Once all the doors opened and the cover in the Chamber lifted, the spotlight hit the wallpaper, making it a bright tan color. It is only the angle of the photo TRJ posted which makes it look awkward.


Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 08, 2013, 06:40:23 PM
I always thought that it was a clay pot also. Not sure why Olmec thought it was the Bent Shaving Pan. I guess not having access to any of the episodes back in the day made it hard to go back and rewatch certain ones for different facts. And yeah, that does look like the piece of paper from the Chamber too.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 10, 2013, 02:07:26 PM
Since we were talking about the Judge Roy Bean episode earlier, is there a reason why the dot on the map for that temple run doesn't blink? It also happened in Bandit Queen, where the dot wasn't blinking in that run either.

But the first two episodes that day (Chandragupta and Lion-Slashed Jacket) had the dot blinking on the map. But both the Bandit Queen and Roy Bean run did not have the dot blinking at all. Kind of odd that this trait is only shared for two episodes on that production day.  :idea:
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on May 10, 2013, 04:31:51 PM
Since we were talking about the Judge Roy Bean episode earlier, is there a reason why the dot on the map for that temple run doesn't blink? It also happened in Bandit Queen, where the dot wasn't blinking in that run either.

But the first two episodes that day (Chandragupta and Lion-Slashed Jacket) had the dot blinking on the map. But both the Bandit Queen and Roy Bean run did not have the dot blinking at all. Kind of odd that this trait is only shared for two episodes on that production day.  :idea:

The dot only blinked during the Chandragupta run. It was stationary for Lion-Slashed Jacket, Secret Map, and Judge Roy Bean. It probably just had to do with editing.

Most of the episodes that were taped/edited toward the beginning of each season had slightly different camera angles, lighting cues, and editing quirks. It's probably because the producers wanted to try out a few different styles to see what would look best. But they didn't go back and "fix" the other ones with the other style because they were already done, and to change them would just use up time.

And also worth mentioning: A similar thing happened with the temple map during the Bifocal Monocle day: Bifocal Monocle, William the Conqueror, and War Fan all had bright pink dots like the ones seen later in Season 3; the dot in Much-Heralded Helmet is dark pink.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 10, 2013, 05:02:51 PM
Since we were talking about the Judge Roy Bean episode earlier, is there a reason why the dot on the map for that temple run doesn't blink? It also happened in Bandit Queen, where the dot wasn't blinking in that run either.

But the first two episodes that day (Chandragupta and Lion-Slashed Jacket) had the dot blinking on the map. But both the Bandit Queen and Roy Bean run did not have the dot blinking at all. Kind of odd that this trait is only shared for two episodes on that production day.  :idea:

The dot only blinked during the Chandragupta run. It was stationary for Lion-Slashed Jacket, Secret Map, and Judge Roy Bean. It probably just had to do with editing.

Most of the episodes that were taped/edited toward the beginning of each season had slightly different camera angles, lighting cues, and editing quirks. It's probably because the producers wanted to try out a few different styles to see what would look best. But they didn't go back and "fix" the other ones with the other style because they were already done, and to change them would just use up time.

And also worth mentioning: A similar thing happened with the temple map during the Bifocal Monocle day: Bifocal Monocle, William the Conqueror, and War Fan all had bright pink dots like the ones seen later in Season 3; the dot in Much-Heralded Helmet is dark pink.

Yeah, that sounds right to me. The first episodes of the season were probably filmed a little differently and when they went back to edit it, some of those inconsistent edits occurred with the episodes from earlier in the season. That also explains why the Secret Map can be seen in the Shrine during the Bifocal Monocle temple rundown even though that one was taped before Bandit Queen.

And another interesting thing about the Bifocal Monocle day was the temple rundown that was used. Bifocal Monocle uses the same temple rundown as the rest of the Season 3 episodes. But William the Conqueror, War Fan, and Sir Gawain uses a different temple rundown footage. The one used in Sir Gawain and War Fan were more specific where the camera actually descends into the Chamber of the Sacred Markers instead of just panning towards it like it usually did in S3. Also, the Secret Map is NOT seen in the Shrine during this temple rundown. So that is another weird quirk about this production day. None of this is seen in Bifocal Monocle.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 10, 2013, 06:42:51 PM
Bifocal Monocle and Secret Map were probably among the first two episodes to be edited. It would explain why Bifocal Monocle had the regular rundown with the Secret Map in the Shrine, like most Season 3 episodes had.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 11, 2013, 12:49:34 AM
I wonder if the producers were trying to do personalized temple rundowns for every episode? Like one for each of their own temple runs. I always wonder why they only show the Secret Map in the Shrine.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Silver Monkey on May 11, 2013, 01:27:47 AM
That's actually entirely possible. Let's not forget that the Lion Headed Bracelet of Chandragupta was visible in the Quicksand Bog during its' rundown.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 11, 2013, 01:30:43 AM
Wasn't the Thronwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean shown during the rundown as well? Can anyone get any photographic proof of that?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Silver Monkey on May 11, 2013, 01:34:01 AM
Just checked, it's indeed there. Now I wonder if the Lion Slashed Jacket of Sacagawea was visible in its' rundown.

EDIT: Yeah, it's there (though you can only see it in the wide shot of the Shrine).
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 11, 2013, 01:40:21 AM
Wasn't the Thronwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean shown during the rundown as well? Can anyone get any photographic proof of that?

Indeed the Thornwood Gavel can be seen also! Wow, I have never noticed that before. I circled both the Secret Map and Thornwood Gavel. I didn't see the Lion-Headed Bracelet though because the wide shot had the room dark. I had a hard time noticing the Lion-Slashed Jacket too.


 (http://s210.photobucket.com/user/tweesterreo/media/secretmaptemplerundown_zps13c5976a.png.html)

For reference, here were the four artifact locations that day.

Secret Map --> Shrine of the Silver Monkey
Thornwood Gavel --> Jester's Court
Lion-Slashed Jacket --> Room of the Secret Password
Lion-Headed Bracelet --> Quicksand Bog
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Silver Monkey on May 11, 2013, 01:56:27 AM
Here's all four of them:


Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 11, 2013, 02:02:27 AM
Do you remember what temple runs you got those artifacts from? Because some of the temple rundowns did not show the Thornwood Gavel or Lion-Headed Bracelet. The one temple rundown where I got that image of the Secret Map from was the "Bent Shaving Pan" run down. But I didn't see the Bracelet or Thornwood Gavel though in that rundown.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Silver Monkey on May 11, 2013, 02:03:32 AM
They're all from their respective rundowns.
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Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on May 11, 2013, 10:26:41 AM
Those four episodes are the only ones of Season 3 to have the temple rundown personalized that way. As TSM has shown, the artifacts were edited into their respective rooms during the rundown. However, each of those four artifacts only appears in its own episode's rundown; they do NOT appear in other episodes' rundowns, even the other ones from that same day. The producers probably wanted to show each artifact in their respective room like how it was in Season 2. But since they decided to pre-tape the rundown, and editing in the particular artifact for each run was time consuming (and "not necessary"), they probably only got through those four before deciding to streamline it.

TRJ- The "Thornwood Gavel" that you circled in the Secret Map rundown is actually the top of the block that sits in front of the middle painting in the Jesters' Court.
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 11, 2013, 02:23:42 PM
Thank you, I didn't realize I circled the ledge part of the Jester's Court. Not to mention, the Thornwood Gavel was positioned in the opposite direction then the one I circled. And I never noticed the Chandragupta production day artifacts in their respective rundowns either. I guess I never paid much attention to the rundown since it was all the same in S3 pretty much aside from the alternate footage in the Sir Gawain day and the personalized footage for this day.  :P
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: GreenMonkeys#1 on May 24, 2013, 03:18:24 PM
Here's one from the Dried Ear of Corn




I mentioned this in the other thread. But it is so unusual with a darker Ancient Warriors room. I think I somehow remember this from my Nick GaS days.
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 24, 2013, 03:34:03 PM
Wasn't that room also dark in Gwalior too? Also from that same day. The temple in S3 had the tendency to be dark in certain rooms of the temple. Like mentioned earlier where in "Enormous Feather" where the Jester's Court was completely dark for David and the lights never dimmed either. Or in Sir Gawain where it seemed like half of Tiffani's rooms were pitch black also. Especially the Ledges.   :o
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Post by: GreenMonkeys#1 on May 24, 2013, 03:37:44 PM
Wasn't that room also dark in Gwalior too? Also from that same day. The temple in S3 had the tendency to be dark in certain rooms of the temple. Like mentioned earlier where in "Enormous Feather" where the Jester's Court was completely dark for David and the lights never dimmed either. Or in Sir Gawain where it seemed like half of Tiffani's rooms were pitch black also. Especially the Ledges.   :o
Royal Torque & Nate  ;)

But the Jester's Court did have problems that day.

I just rewatched Gwalior. It looked normal  :|
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 24, 2013, 04:15:57 PM
Yeah, the lighting in the Room of the Ancient Warriors was fine in Gwalior, it was just in Dried Ear of Corn that it was dark. Also, the lights not dimming in Enormous Feather also happened in Golden Pepperoni.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Silver Monkey on May 24, 2013, 10:58:21 PM
Wasn't that room also dark in Gwalior too? Also from that same day. The temple in S3 had the tendency to be dark in certain rooms of the temple. Like mentioned earlier where in "Enormous Feather" where the Jester's Court was completely dark for David and the lights never dimmed either. Or in Sir Gawain where it seemed like half of Tiffani's rooms were pitch black also. Especially the Ledges.   :o
Royal Torque & Nate  ;)

But the Jester's Court did have problems that day.

It looked fine in the Ivory Hunting Horn run (the first episode of that day). I wonder if something broke between that run and the Royal Torque run (the second episode of that day).
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Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 25, 2013, 01:02:36 AM
What did the Jester's Court look like in the Pirate Captain run? That one came right after Queen Boadicea. I don't recall if Jarrid entered it when he ran out of the temple or not. But it seemed find for David in Enormous Feather up until he completed the objective. :o

As for the darkness in Dried Ear of Corn, is it possible that the last episode of each production day had a darker than usual temple? Since it was the last temple run, the producers might've dimmed some areas of the temple. Just look how dark some areas are in the temple for Tiffani in Sir Gawain. I need to go back and watch some of the last episodes of each production day (like Catherine the Great and Lost Taj Mahal Turban) to see if they had dark parts of the temple too.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 25, 2013, 01:19:29 AM
Melted Head was last of the day, not Taj Mahal Turban. And Jarrid did not exit through the Jester's Court in the Pirate Captain run. But yeah, the whole dimming of rooms for the last episodes of each day is interesting. I wonder why the production crew felt the need to do that though.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 19, 2013, 04:11:18 PM
Here's an interesting photo I found watching "Elizabeth the First's Golden Ship" yesterday.




Look carefully at the Wall Climb. Notice how the Throne Room door is opened, despite the fact it was so very obviously locked during the temple run. How did that happen? Obviously, the door would be locked for the temple run, since the production crew would never make a layout THAT easy. But why is is suddenly opened for no apparent reason? I read somewhere here a while ago where some doors are apparently opened for contestants. So they can exit the temple quicker despite losing. And this same thing apparently happened in "The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan." Where the Golden Idols door leading to the Heart Room was opened, but not the Heart Room door itself. Though with how retarded John and Tia were, even if that was some supposed production error, they still would've been the same lost causes they were to begin with. :roll:

Furthermore, this same photo in on Ed's site, found below:




Now, I used to think that photo/scene was from "The Keys to Alhambra," with both the Throne Room and Heart Room doors being opened. But I compared the above photos to the "Copyright 1993" bit in Alhambra, and it didn't match. It just showed Lisa walking back to Steve and Kirk, and before we even see a further shot of those three standing around, the scene fades. Plus, both photos above are an exact match. Thoughts on this?
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 19, 2013, 04:31:23 PM
I am pretty sure they unlocked certain doors at the end of the temple run when it was completely over. Even if the team didn't collect the artifact, certain doors would unlock to either make it easier for the contestants to get out of the temple or it was just a procedure they did at the end of the temple run. I definitely don't think those rooms were meant to be unlocked at during the temple run. Especially the "Golden Ship" run with the Throne Room door open. If that door really opened, that would've made "Shaka Zulu" look like "Apanuugpak".  :shock:
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on October 20, 2013, 11:17:29 PM
I was rewatching the Season 3 moat crossings, and came across an unusual edit from the Good-Luck Watch of Empress Eugenie episode. The three images below were taken within 7 seconds of each other (courtesy video posted on youtube.com by OlmecFan25). The first image was taken at 3:27, and in the background, you can see that both Jay and Janeen are still on the first side of the moat. Once the Purple Parrots rang in, the video cut to Janeen climbing over the net at 3:29 (second image). The last image, taken at 3:34, shows Jay helping Janeen out of the water. Also, note that the fog was starting to dissipate in the middle of the moat.

Janeen had failed to successfully cross the moat by the time the first three teams rang in, but in the photo sequence, Jay was already across the moat. This means that Janeen passed off the rope to Jay and had him cross before proceeding. This also means that during editing, they chose to cut out Jay crossing the moat. Finally, this means that the second Orange Iguana and Silver Snake teammates must have had a LOT of difficulty crossing the moat if both Jay and Janeen were able to cross before either of them did.








Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 20, 2013, 11:44:53 PM
Good find, that was pretty interesting to see Jay and Janeen struggle so much in this moat. Jay must've been a beast in crossing if he got across so fast. Of course, he was a beast throughout this episode. I am surprised though that Jay didn't attempt to cross any sooner, considering how bad Janeen was struggling. :roll:
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Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 21, 2013, 03:05:25 AM
Yeah, I noticed all of that last time I watched Good Luck Watch a few months ago. We never even SEE Jay cross the moat, because the moat was so heavily edited. I remember Janeen especially struggled to get across, which is pretty much why her team finished last. The two losing teams must've really sucked at the moat for both Janeen and Jay made miraculous comebacks. And with the fog near disappearing in the last picture, this must've been a pretty long moat. Catherine the Great had a rather lengthy moat too, which was filmed the same day as Good Luck Watch. I guess a lot of players struggled with this moat that day.

And while we're on the subject of this episode, notice one of the Orange Iguana players do a MAJOR flip during the moat:




That look like that HAD to hurt. :shock: Especially in water that was not at all deep. While the flip probably wasn't intentional, he/she could've gotten really hurt from that. Naturally, they didn't make it across. I'm not sure if I've posted that picture before, but if I haven't, there you go.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: TempleFan322 on April 26, 2014, 11:45:48 AM
Here's an interesting photo I found watching "Elizabeth the First's Golden Ship" yesterday.




Look carefully at the Wall Climb. Notice how the Throne Room door is opened, despite the fact it was so very obviously locked during the temple run. How did that happen? Obviously, the door would be locked for the temple run, since the production crew would never make a layout THAT easy. But why is is suddenly opened for no apparent reason? I read somewhere here a while ago where some doors are apparently opened for contestants. So they can exit the temple quicker despite losing. And this same thing apparently happened in "The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan." Where the Golden Idols door leading to the Heart Room was opened, but not the Heart Room door itself. Though with how retarded John and Tia were, even if that was some supposed production error, they still would've been the same lost causes they were to begin with. :roll:

Furthermore, this same photo in on Ed's site, found below:




Now, I used to think that photo/scene was from "The Keys to Alhambra," with both the Throne Room and Heart Room doors being opened. But I compared the above photos to the "Copyright 1993" bit in Alhambra, and it didn't match. It just showed Lisa walking back to Steve and Kirk, and before we even see a further shot of those three standing around, the scene fades. Plus, both photos above are an exact match. Thoughts on this?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I know that a small amount of episodes in S1 had the doors instantly open after a triple capture. Most notably, "The Pendant of Kamehameha". When the guard escorts Tina to The Dungeon, the golden doors in the Tomb instantly open.
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 26, 2014, 03:25:06 PM
Yeah, that's true, and I do remember that. But I always thought the doors instantly opened for any losing player, so they could exit the temple quicker, triple capture or not. Also, you could even see contestants walking out of the temple in the credits after losing. Larry from "The Mysterious Manuscript of Mary Shelley" is a perfect example of that.

Picture below from Ed's site:




I call it, "Larry's Walk of Shame." :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 27, 2014, 01:02:47 AM
The door opening in the Throne Room for the Golden Ship run also happened in the Golden Cricket Cage run. At the end of the temple run, you can see the Heart Room-Golden Idols door open. Even though Tia tried it and it never opened. Although I am not going to post pictures from that abomination.  :oops:

Also, the producers must've placed emphasis on Larry's walk of shame on purpose. :lol: I don't remember any other contestant that got so much screen time on their temple exit. I like Kate's stupid gesture as Larry is exiting the temple too. He deserves it also.  :mrblue:
Title: Re: Interesting Photos from Various Episodes
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 27, 2014, 01:08:10 AM
At least Kate was a good sport despite losing as badly as she did, and getting paired up with Larry. If that's any sort of consolation. But yeah, I also think the producers recorded Larry's "Walk of Shame" on purpose. How else do they show so much of Larry exiting the temple? :lol: