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Title: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on November 12, 2011, 07:22:17 PM
PPF's Edit:
Rankings Comparison (http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=2324.msg174000#msg174000)
Rankings by Member (http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=2324.msg175015#msg175015)

So, most of you are aware of the ranking system I did over the summer concerning which of the 6 teams was statistically the best.  Well, now I want to do a ranking system for the individual contestants in order to gauge which individuals are the best and worst.

I'm going through and ranking every team that made it to the Temple Games.  The ranking system itself is simple: I rank them 1-10 on each round - Moat, Steps of Knowledge, Individual Temple Game, Team Temple Game, and Temple Run (If applicable).  In general, 1 is absolutely worthless, 5 is average, and 10 is absolutely perfect.

A contestant's overall rating will be the average of all of their scores.  I'll do each episode in sets of 4 or 5 and I'll post the results of each set here for any discussion/dispute.  Here's the first set to get us started.


BLACKBEARD'S TREASURE MAP:

Red Jaguars - Sabrina
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 2
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 2
Overall: 4

Red Jaguars - James
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 6

Silver Snakes - Karissa
Moat: 2
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 3
Overall: 3.75

Silver Snakes - Hector
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 7
Overall: 6


Notes about this episode: How lame.  What else can I say.  Both teams were average at best.  Nobody did exceedingly well in any round, but both the girls fucked up big time in some rounds.


THE GOLDEN CUP OF BELSHAZZAR:

Red Jaguars - Catherine
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 9
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 6.6

Red Jaguars - Sean
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.8

Purple Parrots - Leslie
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 2
Overall: 4.5

Purple Parrots - Keith
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 9
Team Temple Game: 2
Overall: 5.5

Notes about this episode: This was actually a pretty good episode overall.  The Temple Run was disappointing, but when you look at them as a team, Catherine and Sean were pretty good.  The Temple Games were interesting, though.  In the first game, Sean did very well, but Keith was outstanding.  Similarly, in the second game, Leslie did very well, but Catherine was outstanding.  It was a dead heat matchup...until the final game, where Leslie and Keith completely screwed up.


GALILEO'S CANNONBALL:

Silver Snakes - Jennifer
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.6

Silver Snakes - Jammin' Jon
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7.2

Green Monkeys - Beth
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 7
Overall: 6

Green Monkeys - Kevin
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 5.25

Notes about this episode:  Jammin' Jon was the first truly good contestant, averaging over 7 points per round, and Jennifer was not far behind.  Just look at all those 8's up there for the Silver Snakes.  The Green Monkeys, however, were barely above average.


WILD BILL HICKOK AND THE DEAD MAN'S HAND:

Orange Iguanas - Sarah
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 6.2

Orange Iguanas - Joshua
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 5
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 5.8

Green Monkeys - Amber
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 3
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 4
Overall: 5

Green Monkeys - Ian
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 7
Overall: 6.5

Notes about this episode: Neither team was bad, but kind of like Blackbeard's Treasure Map, nobody really excelled at any rounds.  The last temple game was pretty annoying though.  On the Green Monkeys, Ian did very well trying to adjust his body to catch the balls, but Amber just had such a horrible aim that he couldn't really get very many.  On the Orange Iguanas, Sarah was pretty accurate, never throwing them too far off, but Joshua absolutely refused to adjust his body sideways, causing him to miss some easy balls.


So, if you disagree with any of these, or you just want to discuss the results, post away.  I'll try to keep the sets coming pretty often.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on November 13, 2011, 08:20:15 AM
Not bad, THK. We never had a topic like this, so I'm glad to see this up.

I can't judge until I watch the episodes again, but the Temple Run rankings seem accurate.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Bandit King on November 14, 2011, 08:27:44 PM
A tactical analysis of each player...yeah, why hasn't it been done by us before?

It'll be interesting to see how the other episodes' players rank...
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 15, 2011, 08:40:42 PM
This looks like a daunting task, but I will be sure to keep up with it.

I am interested in how some of the contestants like Jeremy and Erika rank. I mean sure, they were pathetic in the temple. But they were pretty dominant outside of it.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on November 15, 2011, 08:43:33 PM
This looks like a daunting task, but I will be sure to keep up with it.

I am interested in how some of the contestants like Jeremy and Erika rank. I mean sure, they were pathetic in the temple. But they were pretty dominant outside of it.
I agree. Erika and Jeremy's victory was pretty laughable, but they did dominate the pre temple rounds. I can't wait to see their rankings. Great list THK, I can't wait to see the rest.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 15, 2011, 08:46:44 PM
I like how Sabrina's partner has a higher ranking than she does even though he never enters the temple. That makes sense at least since Sabrina was beyond pathetic.

I can't wait until you post "The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan" rankings. I would love to see the Purple Parrots ranking compared to the Silver Snakes during that episode.

Same with Keys to the Alhambra. I want to see how pathetic Lisa ranks.  :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on November 15, 2011, 08:51:37 PM
You'll see about that as soon as I find time to post the next few sets.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 15, 2011, 08:52:39 PM
Oh, take your time. I know a project this big is time consuming and I don't mean to rush you at all.  ;)

I just think its a really good idea.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on November 15, 2011, 08:53:07 PM
I wonder how Kim would fare. How can someone who won her temple game and team game do so badly in the Temple? :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 15, 2011, 08:56:05 PM
I wonder how Kim would fare. How can someone who won her temple game and team game do so badly in the Temple? :roll:

Yeah, this is the thing I don't understand about some of these players in the temple.

Both Kim and Jackie won their individual and team temple game, yet were beyond pathetic in the temple. Both are a good example of wasted potential.  :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on November 15, 2011, 08:59:21 PM
I wonder how Kim would fare. How can someone who won her temple game and team game do so badly in the Temple? :roll:

Yeah, this is the thing I don't understand about some of these players in the temple.

Both Kim and Jackie won their individual and team temple game, yet were beyond pathetic in the temple. Both are a good example of wasted potential.  :roll:
Well, both Kim and Jackie's teams won the temple games 2-1. Meaning they tied the third game, when both players won the other 2 games fair and square. And yeah, wasted potential indeed. It's kind of sad to see players who didn't even ENTER the temple, score higher than their not so great partners.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 16, 2011, 06:01:03 PM
I wonder how Kim would fare. How can someone who won her temple game and team game do so badly in the Temple? :roll:

Yeah, this is the thing I don't understand about some of these players in the temple.

Both Kim and Jackie won their individual and team temple game, yet were beyond pathetic in the temple. Both are a good example of wasted potential.  :roll:
Well, both Kim and Jackie's teams won the temple games 2-1. Meaning they tied the third game, when both players won the other 2 games fair and square. And yeah, wasted potential indeed. It's kind of sad to see players who didn't even ENTER the temple, score higher than their not so great partners.

I say any two pendant runs with disappointing results is basically wasted potential. I mean earning two pendants in the temple games means you had the upper edge over the other team. Not to say that some teams didn't fluke in the temple games, but earning two pendants is quite a good feat and basically means the temple guards are irrelevant in the temple to a certain extent.

Blackbeard's Treasure Map
John Henry's Lost Hammer
The Paintbrush of Leonardo Da Vinci
The Oracle Bowl of Delphi
The Silver Cannonball of Grandy Nanny
The Missing Weather Maps of Charles Lindbergh
The Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis the I
The Dried-Apple Half of William Tell

All good examples of wasted potential.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on November 18, 2011, 06:25:26 PM
TIME FOR THE SECOND SET UPDATE!

JOHN HENRY'S LOST HAMMER:

Silver Snakes - Kim
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 9
Team Temple Game: 4
Temple Run: 1
Overall: 5.4

Silver Snakes - Billy
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 6.2

Orange Iguanas - Julia
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 4
Overall: 6.75

Orange Iguanas - Walter
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

Notes about this episode:  Now, just take a look at that.  Because of Kim and Billy's horrible performance in the temple, the losing team actually ended up ranking higher than them.  Great job, guys.  The only redeeming quality I see is that the Temple Games were pretty competitive (though the last one was pretty pitiful).


THE GOLDEN CRICKET CAGE OF KHAN:

Silver Snakes - Tia
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 2
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 1
Overall: 4.8

Silver Snakes - John
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 4
Temple Run: 3 (And that's being generous :roll:)
Overall: 4.8

Purple Parrots - Michelle
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 2
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 5.25

Purple Parrots - Mike
Moat: 2
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 5

Notes about this episode:  Neither of these teams deserved to win anything.  Both of these teams were incredibly lame.  When the highest ranking person got a 5.25, you know it's a horrible episode.


ELIZABETH I'S GOLDEN SHIP:

Red Jaguars - Gabby
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.2

Red Jaguars - Joe
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.2

Purple Parrots - Andrea
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 4
Overall: 5

Purple Parrots - Mike
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall:5.5

Notes about this episode: Well, Gabby and Joe weren't an amazing team, but they are definitely the most consistent team so far.  This is another episode where everybody is okay, but nobody sticks out for anything.


JOHN SUTTER AND THE MAP TO THE LOST GOLD MINE:

Blue Barracudas - Jennifer
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7

Blue Barracudas - Damian
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 3
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 5.6

Silver Snakes - Brooke
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 5.5

Silver Snakes - Perry
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 7
Overall: 5.75

Notes about this episode:  Jennifer is on the same tier as Jammin' Jon and is so far the best girl contestant.  Damian, on the other hand, was actually not that good.  He was little above average.  This one was all Jennifer.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Bandit King on November 18, 2011, 09:05:40 PM
Somewhat surprised about Damian, but I totally agree with all the other contestants.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on November 18, 2011, 10:15:00 PM
Well, Jennifer was the star of the show in John Sutter. Damian only lasted what, 20 seconds in the temple? So Jennifer did most of the work. I agree with the rest of the results, I knew Kim and Billy were gonna rank low.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on November 18, 2011, 10:16:29 PM
Why did Gabby get a 6? She was slow like a snail taking a shit. She deserves a 2.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on November 18, 2011, 10:49:16 PM
I wonder why Gabby and Joe have average scores for the temple Run when they're so slow.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 19, 2011, 12:40:18 AM
Were the Elizabeth I Golden Ships contestants really bad though? I mean sure they only went through four rooms, but that is because their run ended in triple capture. I am sure they would've made it much further had it not been for the three guards. But that is a bad run anyways.

And I am glad to see Jennifer in Map to the Lost Gold Mine leading the averages for the girls. She was one of my all time favorite female players.

And I love how the Purple Parrots in the Golden Cricket Cage of Khan have a higher average than the Silver Snakes despite not entering the temple.  :mrsilver:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on November 19, 2011, 12:50:24 AM
Yeah, the only problem the Golden Ship kids had was moving too slow. And like TRJ said, they were caught by three temple guards. And yes, the Silver Snakes' average in Cricket Cage is pretty unfortunate. The Purple Parrots would have done a better job in the temple for sure.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 19, 2011, 12:59:28 AM
I mean their only problem was that they struggled in the Wall Climb. And a lot of players struggled there because of those useless ropes. At least they didn't seem like they were clueless in the temple like John, Tia, Kim, and Lisa.

And I think any team would do better than John and Tia.  :P I mean Sabrina traveled further in the temple than those two did, and this is Sabrina we are talking about. To this day I never knew how these two could be this stupid.  :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on November 19, 2011, 07:00:32 AM
Gabby and Joe weren't THAT bad.  They certainly weren't good, but they seemed fairly competent.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on November 24, 2011, 11:56:42 PM
Time for the next set, featuring the Season 1, Layout 3 episodes.  Now, I need to bring up another aspect of the scoring system.  If the Temple Games goes to a tiebreaker, I can add or subtract a point depending on how the contestants do in the tiebreaker round.  Generally, it only applies to the people who actually ring in, but there are a few cases where multiple people will receive a bonus/subtraction.

THE STAR OF SULTAN SALADIN:

Silver Snakes - Leah
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 3
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 5.2

Silver Snakes - Steve
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 9
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 7.75

Red Jaguars - Leslie
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 3
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 7
Overall: 5.5

Red Jaguars - Tom
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 7

Notes about this episode: I was really surprised by the results of this.  Leah, generally regarded as a really good player, only got a 5.2, and Steve, an easily forgotten contestant, got an amazing score of 7.75.  Imagine what would've happened had Steve gone into the temple instead of Leah.  On the Red Jaguars, Tom was great and Leslie was little above average, but in the end, Leah and Steve were just a little bit better.

Overall, I liked this episode, except for the second Temple Game.  That was a horrible show by both Leah and Leslie.


THE KEYS TO THE ALHAMBRA:

Red Jaguars - Lisa
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 2
Overall: 6

Red Jaguars - Steve
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 10
Overall: 7.4

Silver Snakes - Leslie
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 6.25

Silver Snakes - Rodney
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 7
Tiebreaker Bonus: -1
Overall: 7

Notes about this episode:  Congratulations to Steve for the first 10 rating for any one event.  In the Temple Run, he wasted no time speeding through all those rooms, and there was no inherent flaw with his plan for going through the temple.  When the artifact is at the far end, the direct path is not entirely implausible.  Other than that, Steve was consistent with above average ratings for the other rounds.

But enough about Steve, let's talk about the other contestants.  Lisa surprised me.  For someone who did so horribly in the Temple Run, she was actually pretty dominant in the pre-Temple rounds, and even though she got a 2 in the Temple Run, she still managed a 6 average.  On the Silver Snakes, Rodney was also pretty dominant, but he totally choked in the Tiebreaker.  Leslie was not as dominant as the other three contestants, but she still did pretty well.

I enjoyed the competitiveness of the pre-Temple rounds, but Lisa really made the Temple Run pretty lackluster, which detracts from the overall quality of the episode.


THE HELMET OF GENGHIS KHAN:

Red Jaguars - Becca
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5.8

Red Jaguars - Taylor
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 9
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.2

Blue Barracudas - Tammy
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 2
Individual Temple Game: 3
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 3.75

Blue Barracudas - Phillip
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 7
Overall: 7.25

Notes about this episode: Overall, I didn't like this episode as much as some others. I liked the dominant performance by the male contestants, but this time it just wasn't enough for me to truly enjoy watching it.


THE TROJAN HORSESHOE:

Green Monkeys - Lucretia
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5.6

Green Monkeys - Shawn
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.8

Silver Snakes - Jennifer
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 6

Silver Snakes - Bob
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 3
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 5

Notes about this episode: Wow.  The players in this episode were considerably worse than the previous episodes in this set.  I think it's overall just an average episode.


THE PENDANT OF KAMEHAMEHA:

Silver Snakes - Tina
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 5.8

Silver Snakes - Robbie
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 6
Tiebreaker Bonus: +1
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 6.8

Red Jaguars - Maria
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 7
Overall: 6

Red Jaguars - Mike
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 7
Overall: 5.5

Notes about this episode: Again, the contestants here don't match up to the other episodes in the set, but this one was a little more fun to watch, mostly because the Temple Games went to a tiebreaker and the Temple Run was somewhat better, despite the unfortunate capture.  But one little short thing: Robbie was really good in the temple, probably just as good as Steve from "The Keys to the Alhambra", but I felt I could only give him an 8 since his plan wasn't very good and ultimately that plan made him responsible for the team's capture.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 25, 2011, 01:51:47 AM
I am surprised to see Lisa have a higher overall ranking than Becca and Tina. Then again, the team was fine until when the temple came around though. Had she been any more competent in the temple, Lisa might've had a higher average.

Steve was definitely a beast though and was probably the best male contestant you covered so far after Jammin John.

I can't wait until you hit the S1L4 episodes. I am interested in Kristen and Mitchell's rankings.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on November 26, 2011, 06:39:00 PM
Gabby gets a higher ranking than Leah. What the hell.....
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Bandit King on November 26, 2011, 07:33:20 PM
Gabby gets a higher ranking than Leah. What the hell.....
My sentiments exactly. It boggles the mind...
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on November 26, 2011, 07:57:02 PM
What can I say?  By trying to do it as objectively as possible, we're bound to get surprising results like that.  I was surprised too.  I thought Leah was a really good player, but apparently not so much.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 27, 2011, 12:45:01 AM
You have to remember that he is taking the entire episode into account and not just their temple performance. Leah did a great job in the temple while her pre-temple rounds were about average.

Gabby on the other hand did remarkably well in her temple game. She  already put all three wigs on her mannquin while her opponent (who was a boy) wasn't even finished putting two wigs on. Even in the the temple its hard to judge her performance since she only traveled one room extra than her partner. Had the run not ended in triple capture, I could see her finishing one room away or even reaching the artifact. She was not clueless like other contestants in early season one like John, Tia, Kim, Sabrina, and Lisa.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on November 27, 2011, 12:47:06 AM
How do you explain Gabby wasting so much time between the Heart Room and Idols Room (in that chute)? You don't call that clueless?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on November 27, 2011, 12:53:30 AM
Well, Gabby's game ended in a tie. Mostly because neither her OR her opponent could find the last wig. Prompting both of them to hilariously shuffle through all the foam just to find it. :lol:

As far as Gabby's performance, she wasn't that great of a player yes. But she was more so too slow than she was bad.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 27, 2011, 12:54:47 AM
Its hard to notice, but the door between the Heart Room and Golden Idols does not open all the way. You can see her forcing it open after Kirk tells her to slide it open. This probably adds to her confusion and the reason why she wasted time in the crawlspace. The only real problem this team had was speed, and that was a pretty universal problem of a lot of season one contestants.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on November 27, 2011, 12:55:15 AM
So I guess we can consider the Shiva players slow and not bad.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on November 27, 2011, 12:56:41 AM
Except the Stolen Arm of Shiva team took slowness to a new level. And the second runner did not know how to assemble a monkey.

The Elizabeth I's Golden Ship team in a nutshell is that they weren't a bad team really, they just had a bad outcome. Unfortunately, that outcome makes this run seem like a bottom 10 one.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on November 27, 2011, 02:54:12 AM
Joe was really the slow one.  Looking back, I might knock him down to a 4 on the Temple Run.  But really, Gabby wasn't slow, she just wasn't fast.  She was about average pace.  Combine that with her competence in the temple, and that's why I gave her a 6.

With Leah, she was pretty fast, but she wasted time in a few places, namely the Wall Climb and the Tomb of the Ancient Kings.  That's why I only gave her a 6 on the Temple Run.


I'm trying my best to do this objectively and consistently.  A key factor in that is not being predisposed to earlier opinions, so as a judge, I have to be open to "maybe this person wasn't so bad" or "maybe this person was worse than we thought".  I'm certainly surprised by how some people ranked, but I have to accept it unless it's evident that I didn't judge it fairly.

And like TRJ said, I'm looking at the whole episode.  As we've already seen, just the Temple Run is not necessarily representative of their overall skill.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Green Monkey Warrior on December 12, 2011, 06:23:20 PM
Aren't the Layout 4 rankings coming?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on December 12, 2011, 06:36:57 PM
THK is busy with school and will get to it when he finds time. Please be patient.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on December 12, 2011, 07:25:26 PM
THK is busy with school and will get to it when he finds time. Please be patient.

Yeah, I have a bunch of stuff going on right now, especially with Semester Finals.  I'll try to make up for it by having a huge update over winter break.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on December 16, 2011, 05:29:42 PM
Finally time for S1L4.  Overall, these players were generally worse, but there are a few highlight players.

THE LOST LOGBOOKS OF MAGELLAN:

Blue Barracudas - Jessica
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual Temple Game: 3
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 5.2

Blue Barracudas - Robert
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 9
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7

Orange Iguanas - Jennifer
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 8
Overall: 7

Orange Iguanas - Charles
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 3
Overall: 6.25

Notes about this episode: This episode provides a good example of what I've been seeing a lot lately - when good teams are facing each other in the Temple Games, it often boils down to who screws up in the final game.  In this case, it was Charles.  And that's a shame because Jennifer was a good player who I think deserved to go to the Temple Run.

Robert was also pretty good, but he was less consistent than Jennifer.  Robert just had two good rounds, and the rest average, whereas Jennifer consistently did above average.  Jessica was easily the worst contestant here, but I don't really have anything special to say about her.


THE MOCCASINS OF GERONIMO:

Blue Barracudas - Emily
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 5
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 5

Blue Barracudas - Mitchell
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.2

Silver Snakes - Erin
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 4
Overall: 5.5

Silver Snakes - William
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 3
Overall: 4.5

Notes about this episode:  Okay, this one was really lackluster.  In the end, the Silver Snakes kinda sucked, but the Blue Barracudas weren't that much better.  Seeing the final scores only strengthens the idea in my mind that this was an undeserved win.


HENRY VIII'S GREAT SEAL:

Silver Snakes - Shay
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.2

Silver Snakes - Nick
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7

Blue Barracudas - Annie
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 1
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 4.75

Blue Barracudas - Jordan
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 9
Team Temple Game: 4
Overall: 7

Notes about this episode: Now I understand why TeenNick chose this episode of Legends on UPick.  This was a really good episode, and not just for the over-the-top Temple Guard reactions.  These were some top notch players (Except for Annie who managed a 1 on the Steps of Knowledge.  Seriously, she never even inched toward the buzzer.)  If only Shay had won her individual game, I'm sure the Silver Snakes would've won in the Temple Run.  Damn you, Jordan!


THE LUCKY PIG OF AMELIA EARHART:

Blue Barracudas - Kristen
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 3
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 5
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 4.4

Blue Barracudas - Scott
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 6.25

Purple Parrots - Annie
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 6.25

Purple Parrots - Brad
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 5.75

Notes about this episode: Dammit.  Another sucky episode.  Interestingly, the Purple Parrots averaged higher than the Blue Barracudas, and I can explain why.  Annie on the Purple Parrots did worse in the Temple Games than the previous two rounds, whereas Scott on the Blue Barracudas improved in the Temple Games.  I don't really have anything else to say about this episode, except for that I'm curious what would've happened if Scott had gone in the Temple.  I can't imagine it'd be worse, but I wonder if they would've won, or at least reached the pig.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 17, 2011, 12:44:13 AM
These are pretty decent and reasonable rankings. Just a couple of notes:

I am glad that your rankings show Mitchell from the Moccasins of Geronimo as being nothing more than an average contestant in the temple. I mean all he had to was spin a sundial as an objective, the rest is him just casually walking through the rooms. And not to mention he assembled the monkey after grabbing the Moccasins. Not even Kimberly from the Broken Trident of Poseidon was that stupid.  :roll:

Also, there is no doubt in my mind that Scott would've done better than Kristen. I mean Kristen entered every room possible (minus Heart Room) on her way to the artifact, and this included taking forever in the Wall Climb and Dungeon, and she still finished one room away. If he took her exact same path, and took the Cave of Sighs instead, this would've been an impressive solo victory.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on December 17, 2011, 02:06:20 AM
Yeah, Geronimo was a pretty lackluster episode. It seemed like both teams in the temple games were subpar, and we all know about the temple run. And I agree about Scott from Amelia Earhart. He would have been a million times better than Kristen was. He probably would have won for the team. Overall, I agree with all the ratings.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Bandit King on December 17, 2011, 01:03:16 PM
"Geronimo" was a crappy win. End of story... :roll:

And I'm very pleased with the rankings of the "Henry VIII" contestants. That episode doesn't get nearly the praise it deserves...
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 17, 2011, 02:18:45 PM
Yeah, Henry VIII's Great Seal is one of the better and more exciting episodes in season one. I mean from the temple games where Kirk slips and falls to the exciting temple run, its easily the best episode in S1L4, not to mention one of the better episodes in season one.

THK's S1L5 rankings should be interesting as most of those runs are pretty pitiful, although the Oracle Bowl of Delphi team was pretty strong pre-temple rounds if I recall correctly. :mrblue:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on December 17, 2011, 03:04:37 PM
When did Henry VIII not get enough praise? We always praise it for how exciting the whole episode is. I mean, how else did we save it early in the "save the runs" game? But yeah, it's a great episode from beginning to end. Teenick did a great job picking which episode to play for their UPick lineup. Shay and Nick were a pretty good team despite losing.

And yeah, I can't wait for the S1L5 episode rankings. Most of the runs were pretty subpar, and it's the only filming day in Season 1 where EVERY run was a loss. And The Oracle Bowl of Delphi team was a very strong team pre temple rounds. It was Jackie that screwed everything up. It was PP Pwnage up until the temple run. It will be interesting to see how they rank.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on December 22, 2011, 06:29:14 PM
And I'm already back with S1L5.  All I can say is that I really didn't like these episodes.

PONCE DE' LEON AND THE LOST FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH:

Green Monkeys - Jessica
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6

Green Monkeys - James
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 4
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5.4

Blue Barracudas - Elena
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 5.75

Blue Barracudas - Cory
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 4
Overall: 5.5

Notes about this episode: Another episode where nobody excels at anything.  This episode was just incredibly boring, and I really have nothing special to say about it.


THE TREASURE MAP OF JEAN LAFITTE:

Blue Barracudas - Terry Kay
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 4
Tiebreaker Bonus: -1
Temple Run: 3
Overall: 4.4

Blue Barracudas - Aaron
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 8
Tiebreaker Bonus: -1
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5.8

Red Jaguars - Jacquelin
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 3
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 4
Tiebreaker Bonus: -1
Overall: 4

Red Jaguars - Rex
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 9
Tiebreaker Bonus: -1
Overall: 7.25

Notes about this episode: Rex was easily the best contestant here, but unfortunately he couldn't make it to the temple because A) his partner sucked, and B) he choked at the tiebreaker.  But you'll notice everyone got deducted for the tiebreaker, and that's because even after all the choices were read, everyone was clueless.  In fact, I almost applaud Rex for at least taking a shot, but unfortunately I still have to deduct since he gave the wrong answer.  Aaron was okay, but both girls here really sucked.  But considering Jacquelin's performance, I don't know how much better this would've been if the Red Jaguars went to the temple instead.

Overall, Rex was the only thing I enjoyed about this episode.  He was a good contestant, and has a pretty cool name.


THE ORACLE BOWL OF DELPHI:

Purple Parrots - Jackie
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 1
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 3
Overall: 4.8

Purple Parrots - Shane
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 4
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 6.8

Silver Snakes - Jamie
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 3
Individual Temple Game: 2
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 3.75

Silver Snakes - Mike
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 6.25

Notes about this episode: The harsh truth about this episode - both guys were pretty good, but both girls sucked.  Really, it'd kinda be pushing it to say this was Purple Parrots Pwnage up until the temple run, but they did do pretty well in the early rounds.  The last two temple games, though.  That was pathetic.

Overall, this is another episode with only a few redeeming points.  Namely Shane's Moat and individual game performance.


THE PAINTBRUSH OF LEONARDO DA VINCI:

Orange Iguanas - Katie
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 3
Overall: 5.8

Orange Iguanas - Roberto
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 4
Temple Run: 3
Overall: 5

Blue Barracudas - Ansie
Moat: 3
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 4
Overall: 5

Blue Barracudas - Chris
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 1
Overall: 4.5

Notes about this episode: Why must all the episodes in this set suck so much?  Katie was the only respectable performance.  She did pretty well in the pre-Temple rounds, but kinda sucked once she got in.  The only thing I liked in this episode was the Steps of Knowledge.  It was really exciting because almost everybody knew every answer, so it basically came down to who could ring in first.  And it ended up with a 4-way tie on the last step.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 22, 2011, 10:42:44 PM
I agree, I was never a fan of those set of episodes and most of them are so forgettable and boring. Plus, their temple runs have pretty crappy outcomes.

I do have a few notes though:

PONCE DE LEON AND THE LOST FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH:

I find it kind of strange that James has a lower score than his partner in the temple. I mean he was kind of slow and stupid during the run, but at least he made it one room away from the artifact. I mean he knew what he was doing in every room, but messed up by not taking the Shrine shortcut.

Also, his partner made some strange decisions with her alloted time in the temple. This includes unnecessarily backtracking to the Observatory as if the Heart Room magically opened or something.  :roll:

THE ORACLE BOWL OF DELPHI

I am glade Shane is rated much higher than Jackie. Minus the Steps, he was no doubt much better than Jackie was. This includes a strong team temple game performance and temple run performance.

THE PAINTBRUSH OF LEONARDO DA VINCI

Yeah, Katie was decent throughout her episode before the temple run. I am glad that you were able to capture her dominance in the earlier rounds. Too bad she messed up bad in the temple run though.

Overall, decent rankings once again. S1L5 is one of the more irritating episodes of season one, so good job getting by it. S1L6 should be a little better, but there are a couple of boring episodes hiding in there too.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on December 22, 2011, 10:59:14 PM
Man, S1L5 was very lackluster. Just about every episode sucked. I hope S1L6 is better than this, hopefully it can take our minds off of S1L5's rankings.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 22, 2011, 11:03:21 PM
S1L6 consists of:

The Golden Chains of Zenobia (its an okay episode, but its pretty forgettable and boring)
The Helmet of Joan of Arc (same reason as above)
The Stone Marker of Leif Erikson (a pretty lackluster episode to be honest)
The Belly Button of Buddha (this episode was actually pretty good, and not just because it was a win.)
The Stolen Arm of Shiva (it was okay until the temple run)

S1L8 should be one of the best season one rankings.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on December 22, 2011, 11:09:22 PM
PONCE DE LEON AND THE LOST FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH:

I find it kind of strange that James has a lower score than his partner in the temple. I mean he was kind of slow and stupid during the run, but at least he made it one room away from the artifact. I mean he knew what he was doing in every room, but messed up by not taking the Shrine shortcut.

Also, his partner made some strange decisions with her alloted time in the temple. This includes unnecessarily backtracking to the Observatory as if the Heart Room magically opened or something.  :roll:

I don't remember what I was thinking when I did that.  I think James just got particularly clueless and slow towards the end and that had too much of a lasting effect on my judgement.  Jessica made some stupid decisions, but she was very fast doing it.

I'll revise and just switch the two scores around.  That seems like a better fit.  Who knows, maybe I just mixed up the scores that I was going to give them.  :|
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 22, 2011, 11:12:30 PM
Oh don't worry, I hope you don't think I am trying to criticize your rankings. I just found it to be kind of surprising that James had a better ranking than his partner. Then again, you are right about him being pretty clueless and he pretty much set himself up for that last temple guard at the end of the day. And its not like his partner had a chance anyways, so I think your score for her is fair.

Please don't change your score because of my opinion. I am sorry if I came off sounding rude.  ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on December 22, 2011, 11:19:13 PM
Oh don't worry, I hope you don't think I am trying to criticize your rankings. I just found it to be kind of surprising that James had a better ranking than his partner. Then again, you are right about him being pretty clueless and he pretty much set himself up for that last temple guard at the end of the day. And its not like his partner had a chance anyways, so I think your score for her is fair.

Please don't change your score because of my opinion. I am sorry if I came off sounding rude.  ;)

No, I really think they did need to be switched around.  You know, sometimes you just need other people to take a look at it before you realize that there's something wrong there.  That's the main reason why I'm posting the scores as I go.  Looking back, I think the original score was too harsh on James.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on December 22, 2011, 11:26:47 PM
Actually, I think I'll give them both 5s.  While James was slow and clueless at times, he made a good amount of progress.  And while Jessica wasted time trying to cut directly to the Heart Room, she moved at a very fast pace.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on December 24, 2011, 03:16:52 PM
I'm already back with another set.  S1L6 is kinda mixed.  Some are pretty good, some are bad, and some are just uneventful.

THE GOLDEN CHAINS OF ZENOBIA:

Orange Iguanas - Jennifer
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6

Orange Iguanas - Justin
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 5.4

Purple Parrots - Tiffany
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 1
Overall: 4.5

Purple Parrots - Chad
Moat: 3
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 1
Overall: 4

Notes about this episode: This one was just uneventful.  I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it either.  The only thing I clearly remember about it is the Purple Parrots' utter failure in the last Temple Game.


THE BELLY BUTTON OF BUDDHA:

Blue Barracudas - Jennifer
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 3
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5.2

Blue Barracudas - Tony
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 6.75

Red Jaguars - Catherine
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 4.5

Red Jaguars - Ramey
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 4.75

Notes about this episode: I liked this episode.  I wouldn't say it was great, but I enjoyed it.  You know, based on that interview with Anthony (Tony), I would've thought Jennifer would rank higher than him, but that was not the case.  Tony actually did really well, and I was pleasantly surprised by that.  Unfortunately, nobody else really did well at anything.

The part of this episode I really liked was the Steps of Knowledge.  That was incredibly competitive with three teams just going fiercely at it.  But great job to Tony who pulled it off in only 5 questions.  Speaking of the steps, Jennifer didn't do anything, but I gave her a 3 because considering how well Tony did, I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.  You know, because maybe she did know some stuff, but just fell in comparison to Tony.


THE STOLEN ARM OF SHIVA:

Orange Iguanas - Christina
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 3
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5.8

Orange Iguanas - Evan
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 3
Team Temple Game: 4
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 4.4

Silver Snakes - Heather
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 5.25

Silver Snakes - Joseph
Moat: 3
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 4
Overall: 5.5

Notes about this episode: Congratulations, Evan.  You managed to do even worse than Jon and Tia.  How does that make you feel?  Seriously, I hated Evan so much after watching this.  Not only did he suck, but he totally cheated in his individual game (and hilariously enough, still managed to lose).  They were supposed to get the top bell first, and then alternate side-to-side, like Joseph was doing, but Evan just grabbed them as he climbed up.

Okay, enough Evan hate for now, let's talk about the few redeeming points of the episode.  Christina wasn't amazing, but she did pretty well, especially in the Temple Games.  Also, Joseph dominated the Steps of Knowledge.  I believe he got all the first three questions and was very fast buzzing in.  But I gave him a 9 because I reserve 10's for the people who know the answers BEFORE the choices are read.


THE STONE MARKER OF LEIF ERIKSON:

Red Jaguars - Keeley
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 5.6

Red Jaguars - Chris
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 1
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 5

Blue Barracudas - Kelly
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 5

Blue Barracudas - Eric
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 5.25

Notes about this episode: Boring.  Not bad, but uneventful.  Next.


THE HELMET OF JOAN OF ARC:

Red Jaguars - Amanda
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 1
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 4.8

Red Jaguars - Eddie
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 9
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7.2

Blue Barracudas - Amanda
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 6

Blue Barracudas - Brian
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 7
Overall: 6

Notes about this episode: I actually kinda liked this one.  Most of the rounds were pretty competitive, and I didn't think the Temple Run was that bad either.  Amanda (Red Jaguars) kinda sucked, but both the Blue Barracudas were pretty good, and Eddie was really good.  These were some good players considering it's such an easily forgotten episode.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on December 24, 2011, 03:32:05 PM
Man, I remember the Purple Parrots in the temple games in Golden Chains. They got destroyed in that last game. That was pretty embarrassing. It was so obvious from the beginning of the round that the Orange Iguanas were gonna sweep the temple games.

Too bad about Jennifer not scoring as high as Tony. Oh well, still a good team.

Wow, I can't believe Evan ranked THAT low. That's just sad. I knew he was a pretty terrible contestant, but lower than John and Tia?!?! I guess there's a reason I don't watch this temple run much. I do vaguely remember the Silver Snakes sweeping the steps and doing pretty well in their temple games. I wonder how much better they would have done in the temple.

Yeah, Stone Marker was just "meh." Though I do remember the Blue Barracudas sharing the same last name. Perhaps maybe they were brother and sister or cousins?

Joan of Arc was a pretty good episode. It was one of the very first full episodes I ever saw. I like how Amanda of the Blue Barracudas scored all 6's. And her partner Brian also scored a 6. Eddie and Amanda were alright team, but Amanda brought the team down because she was rather slow.

Well, that's my two cents about the rankings. I look forward to the next installment. :P
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 24, 2011, 06:34:25 PM
Just some notes:

THE BELLY BUTTON OF BUDDHA:

I agree, this was a good episode throughout each round. Both Blue Barracuda players were strong, and I agree that Tony was the better of the two. Its too bad he never got to enter the temple, he might've done considerably better than Jennifer. But overall, I feel that this team deserved their rankings for this episode.

THE STOLEN ARM OF SHIVA:

Rank lower than John and Tia? Is that even possible?  :o

This episode was very sucky indeed though. Nothing memorable at all except maybe the legend. The temple games were kind of pathetic for the Orange Iguanas, and it was the Orange Iguana girl that carried the team to the temple. The temple run is one of the most forgettable of season one also. Very good rankings for this episode.

THE HELMET OF JOAN OF ARC:

I need to go back and watch this episode again. I am glad to see Eddie get a respectable ranking though, he was solid throughout the temple. I seem to vaguely remember the temple games and that he was dominant. Once again, he was a beast though if memory serves correctly.

Can't wait until S1L7 though. There are a couple of better episodes hidden in there.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on December 27, 2011, 09:44:42 PM
Time for S1L7.  Wow.  These were a couple of really good episodes.  Save for The Silver Saddle Horn of Hannibal, I enjoyed watching all of them and there were some really strong players in here.  If anything is a testament to that, check this out: Before this set, I've only given out a single 10 rating (Steve from The Keys to the Alhambra).  In this set alone, I gave out four 10 ratings.

THE MEDAL OF SIR EDMUND HILLARY:

Silver Snakes - Tara
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 10
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7.4

Silver Snakes - Danny
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 9
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7

Red Jaguars - Shelley
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 7
Overall: 6

Red Jaguars - Adam
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 6.25

Notes about this episode: I didn't enjoy this episode as much as others in the set, but this one was still good.  All the players were very good.  Even the losing team both averaged at least 6.  But Tara and Danny were an amazing team, both averaging over 7.  They had a slow start though.  They both struggled in the beginning, but Tara picked it up at the Steps of Knowledge.  Same for Danny, except he didn't really pick it up until the Temple Games.

Even if you just look at the Temple Run, Tara and Danny were a great team.  However, I feel I need to explain myself with Tara's Temple Run rating.  Tara was very fast through the rooms, and up until the very end, was very smart about going through the Temple.  Her only faults were a brief struggle with the Silver Monkey (though in all honesty, that one can be blamed on Kirk for communicating badly), and her flawed exit plan.  But I feel that the things going for her far outweigh her faults, so despite a bad exit plan that cost them the win, I feel Tara still deserves an 8.


THE MASK OF SHAKA ZULU:

Red Jaguars - Brittany
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 6

Red Jaguars - Bobby
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual Temple Game: 10
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7

Green Monkeys - Melissa
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 5.25

Green Monkeys - Phillip
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 10
Overall: 8.25

Notes about this episode: Okay, quite a bit to talk about here.  First off, HOLY SHIT! Check out Phillip.  Not only is he the first contestant to average more than 8, but he wasn't even on the winning team!  I hate it when a really good player gets paired with a bad partner.  Phillip is yet another really good player who lost because his partner sucked.

Second, my opinion about this episode has changed greatly.  I used to think this was a bad, undeserved win, but watching it again I not only think it's overall a good episode, but I also don't think the Temple Run is really that bad.  Bobby was good throughout the episode (except for the Steps of Knowledge), and Brittany wasn't bad either.  And with the Temple Run, I don't really dislike it anymore because if you listen to Bobby before the run begins, it seemed like he really didn't expect the direct path to work.  Plus he was fast going through the rooms, so I don't think he should be punished just because the run was [unintentionally] easy.  I'm certainly not saying it's one of the best runs, but I no longer think that it's one of the worst.


THE GOLDEN JAGUAR OF ATAHUALPA:

Blue Barracudas - Tracy
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 7
Tiebreaker Bonus: +1
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.8

Blue Barracudas - Chris
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.6

Purple Parrots - Kelly
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 5.5

Purple Parrots - Greg
Moat: 10
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 9
Team Temple Game: 7
Overall: 8

Notes about this episode: Another one!  Another player on the losing team averaged 8 or more!  The only difference is that this one can't really be blamed on having a bad partner.  While Kelly didn't do very well in the team game, her good performance in her individual game caused the Temple Games to instead go to a tiebreaker, giving Greg one last chance to save himself.  But he failed to connect as Tracy beat him to the buzzer.

While Tracy and Chris weren't the best team, I enjoyed this episode because all the rounds were pretty competitive, plus although it was heartbreaking in the end, Greg's outstanding performance in all rounds was very fun to watch.


THE SILVER SADDLE HORN OF HANNIBAL:

Red Jaguars - Vicky
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 5
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5.6

Red Jaguars - Damon
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5.6

Green Monkeys - Jessica
Moat: 2
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 4.75

Green Monkeys - Lee
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 5.5

Notes about this episode: This is the only episode in the set that I didn't like, and I think that can easily be explained by the low scores of the contestants here.  I'd rather not dwell on the worst of the five episodes, so on to the next one.


ALEXANDER AND THE GORDIAN KNOT:

Orange Iguanas - Retina
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 4
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6

Orange Iguanas - Tim
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Temple Game: 9
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7.8

Silver Snakes - Molly
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 5.5

Silver Snakes - Beau
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 7
Overall: 6.75

Notes about this episode: It's been noted before that Tim and Retina had previously appeared as Orange Iguanas in The Medal of Sir Edmund Hillary.  And boy did they do well with their second chance.  Though they didn't win the Temple Run, their performance is very respectable, especially Tim, who is now the highest rated contestant who actually entered the temple (It's kinda sad that I actually have to specify that  :lol:).  The Silver Snakes also did well, but they just weren't good enough to beat Tim and Retina.  The only part of this episode I didn't like was the team Temple Game.  Neither team did very well there.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on December 27, 2011, 10:54:08 PM
Ah S1L7, an immense improvement over S1L6. Look at all those 10s, especially to those who lost the temple games. :shock:

Danny and Tara were a stronger team than I thought. Though I never had any complaints over them.

I remember Philip, the male Green Monkey from Shaka Zulu. Boy, he had a lot of energy, it's a shame he lost the temple games. As far as the run itself, while Bobby isn't really a bad player, I'm still not impressed with the run. I mean, I know the run was only too easy because the production error. But it was and still has continued to rank low in my victory rankings.

The Golden Jaguar is a great episode. What a coincidence that we were just talking about it in another thread. The whole episode is so exciting, especially in the temple games. "By the looks of things, you look a bit soapy" anyone? Unfortunately, this marks the first episode that the Purple Parrots lose a tiebreaker. Which continues about 7 more times throughout the show. :(

The Silver Saddle Horn isn't that great of an episode. I only remember it for the REALLY long moat, and for Lee, the male Green Monkey that was a British player.

And finally, Gordian Knot. Yes that's Tim and Retina who lost at the moat in Sir Edmund Hilary. :lol: They definitely redeemed themselves with the second chance they got. What with being 1st in the moat, sweeping the steps, and doing quite well in the temple games. The episode itself wasn't very exciting though. But that's just me.

Great list as always. :D
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on December 27, 2011, 10:57:49 PM
No opinions on the Gordian Knot temple run? :|
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on December 27, 2011, 11:00:58 PM
No opinions on the Gordian Knot temple run? :|
It wasn't bad.  The only thing really wrong with it is Retina going all the way around the horn instead of trying to take a shortcut.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on December 27, 2011, 11:01:55 PM
If shortcuts were taken, then it would've been a great episode.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on December 27, 2011, 11:06:10 PM
I think it would've been a great episode if the teams had just done better in the last Temple Game.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 28, 2011, 12:49:27 AM
Just some comments again about your rankings:

THE MEDAL OF SIR EDMUND HILLARY:

I agree, Tara and Danny were solid throughout the whole episode and it showed during the temple run. But before getting there, they both dominated the temple games and deserved those two pendants. In the temple run itself, both contestants were smart and moved fast. Tara was even one of the few contestants to run in the opposite entrance instead of making an unnecessary detour. I am glad you didn't knock her down either for the bad temple exit. Even if she stayed to the top, it would've been a close win.

THE MASK OF SHAKA ZULU:

Its an okay episode, but I definitely do remember the hyperactive Phillip.  :mrgreen: This was one of the more memorable episodes of the show, and I love Kirk's enthusiasm throughout this episode. As for the temple run, I think we do give Bobby a hard time for the simplistic layout. I mean he did have to battle with both the Holes of Python and Wheel Room - two of the most time consuming rooms of season one. This includes a trip forward and a trip back through each of these rooms. So the amount of time he spent is pretty impressive.

THE GOLDEN JAGUAR OF ATAHUALPA:

I always found Tracy's temple game to be a little unfair, but the Blue Barracudas were definitely competitive in their temple games as you mentioned. Its too bad that they only won one pendant, because they easily could've won 1.5 or 2 of them. Another great episode.

THE SILVER SADDLE HORN OF HANNIBAL:

I am with you on this one, I am not going to comment on it since its so forgettable and boring. But the frontrunner in the temple run really should've done a better job because she was moving pretty fast up until she hit the Treasure Room.

ALEXANDER AND THE GORDIAN KNOT:

Tim was a beast in the temple, and the second runner had a name spelled similar to an eyeball. Just another forgettable episode though.

Overall, good rankings and S1L8 should be exciting also. I can't wait until we see  :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: ranking.  :mrsilver:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on December 28, 2011, 03:48:59 PM
S1L8 has got some interesting ones. Dragon Lady, King Tut, Pecos Bill, Mata Hari, and Robin Hood. Can't wait. :)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on January 05, 2012, 07:45:21 PM
One week later and still no reviews for this layout? Don't worry THK, I know school is getting in the way. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on January 05, 2012, 07:55:42 PM
One week later and still no reviews for this layout? Don't worry THK, I know school is getting in the way. ;)

Yes.  Just understand that I will probably never get updates as often as I did over winter break.  :lol:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 17, 2012, 12:59:31 AM
Well, so much for progress. I'll try to get mine up when I'm done.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Radman on March 19, 2012, 07:44:37 PM
Interesting format.
Could I try one? You know, just for the lols?  :P
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 28, 2012, 02:29:01 PM
You know, I'll just put up a teaser. And since THK has his own rankings, I won't put his scores in as his actual ones may differ. Also, I'm too lazy to put colors in, so I'll just leave it as it is. I'll go in the order of finished production. And because of our recent situation, I'll do one episode at time. Scale is 0.5 to 10 with a unit of 0.5.

One note, I'll be doing two rankings, one that includes all rounds and another for pre-temple rounds for a fairer comparison between the two teams.

GALILEO'S CANNONBALL

Jammin' Jon:
Moat: 7
Steps: 7
Individual: 8
Team: 8
Pre-Temple: 7.71
Temple: 6.5
Overall: 7.21

Jennifer:
Moat: 7
Steps: 7.5
Individual: 3.5
Team: 8
Pre-Temple: 6.26
Temple: 4.5
Overall: 5.53

Kevin:
Moat: 5.5
Steps: N/A
Indivdual: 5.5
Team: 3.5
Pre-Temple/Overall: 3.82

Beth:
Moat: 6
Steps: 6
Individual: 6
Team: 6.5
Pre-Temple/Overall: 6.18

Well, Jammin' Jon was our first good player as he was consistently good through every round. Jennifer, on the other hand, had to croak in the Temple. Beth did decently, but Kevin was her downfall.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 04, 2012, 01:46:15 PM
I want to try and revive this thread, so I went ahead and did the S2L4 episodes. The first two episodes sucked, by the last two were great.

THE SILK SASH OF MULAN

Jessie
Moat: 2
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Game: 5.5
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 4.9

Steven
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 5
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 6.2

Jessica
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.25

Timothy
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.25

NOTES:
I didn't like this episode at all, most of the rounds were pretty bad except for the Steps. Jessie was pathetic in the moat also. There were three teams across already and she didn't even make it across yet. They only went onto the Steps because Steven hauled ass once he got into the moat.

The temple games were not any better either. The Blue Barracudas barely scrapped by each temple game. On top of that, the Green Monkey boy was an idiot in his temple game for falling off every second. I couldn't really evaluate Jessie and Timothy in the team game because they relied on their partner to knock down the statue. But I gave them a score based on how well they attempted to kick a soldier down.

And don't get me started on the temple run either. Steven wasted too much time in the Observatory and got lost in the Dark Laser Light Room of all places.

THE GOLDEN GOBLET OF ATTILA THE HUN

Rachelle
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 5.9

Taylor
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 6.5

Jill
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Game: 4
Team Game: 7
Overall: 5.25

Brett
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.38

NOTES:
This episode was boring and all the contestants were just aerage. The Purple Parrot girl (Jill) sucked though and didn't look like she wanted to be on the show.

Nothing really to talk about though here, the numbers can do the talking for you. I was kind to Rachelle in the temple run even though she moved a little too slow and didn't take the most direct path either.

THE LEOPARD-SKIN CLOAK OF ANNIE OAKLEY

Chandra
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 6.5
Overall: 7.5

Nick
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 8.5
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 7.5
Overall: 8.0

Rose
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.25

Shane
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5.5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.38

NOTES:
This episode was great, one of my favorite season two episodes. The Purple Parrots really shined in this episode and they dominated the temple games. Also, the Green Monkey boy in the Steps cost his team a trip to the temple games by buzzing in early all the time.

As for the temple run, even if Chandra did take the long way through the temple, she still finished one room away with about 1 minute left. Nick followed her path all the way to the King's Storeroom but there was not even enough time by then to reach the Cloak.

Also, this temple run proves why I don't think Ahmed Baba is that great of a win. Even if Chandra would've taken the Shrine shortcut, she still would've been taken out one room away due to the temple guard placement. Shane got extremely lucky in his run with the temple guard placement.

THE SNAKESKIN BOOTS OF BILLY THE KID

Kelly
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 10
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.6

Tony
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 8.5
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 8.3

Stacy
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 4
Team Game: 5
Overall: 5.25

Adam
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Overall: 6.75

NOTES:
We all know the story behind this episode, the Purple Parrts dominated every round of the temple and even managed to get a temple win. Kelly and Tony dominated their individual games and tied their team game in a close match with the Green Monkeys.

Also, I don't see why people say this temple win is easy. Maybe it was not as tough as Pirate Captain or Apanuugpak, but I this is just about on par with Benzibab, Sforza, and Ahmed Baba - and those wins get praised all the time. I think this win is very underrated.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 04, 2012, 02:44:24 PM
Yay, more rankings! Glad to see this thread get revived after losing most of our progress. Here are my thoughts on the S2L4 episodes:

Mulan was pretty much a snore of an episode. Jessie was just painful to watch during the moat, and they only got to the temple because Stephen hauled ass through most of the rounds. Yet it was HIM who fell apart in the temple. And don't get me started on that Green Monkey boy either. I am so glad he didn't get to the temple. :roll:

Golden Goblet was a pretty blah episode too. From what I see on the rankings, the boys were pretty strong, and the girls were pretty weak. Especially the Purple Parrot girl, who I agree with you that she looked like she didn't want to be on the show. As far as the temple run goes, Rachelle was okay, but she did move pretty slow. I would have given her a 5 for her performance though. I wonder how Taylor would have done had he gone in first instead.

Not much else needs to be said about Leopard Skin Cloak, except it was PP Pwnage! It was clear the Blue Barracudas were no match for the Purple Parrots. They were just plain average, while the Parrots truly shined. It's such a pity this team didn't win, but Chandra should not have taken that elevator. I agree about your sentiments on Ahmed Baba and Annie Oakley though. It's nearly the same run, only different artifact location and the former team won. But either way, I agree with your rankings.

And Snakeskin Boots, another PP Pwnage episode. And unlike the aforementioned team, Kelly and Tony won. The strongest points were Tony sweeping the steps, Kelly OWNING her individual game, and the close competition in the third temple game. And I completely agree with you about the win itself. I always thought it got a lot of undeserved hate just because they didn't travel through 9 rooms and have 1029384756 objectives to do. Everyone seems to think that this run is just "Robin Hood and Marian's Ladder 2." Just because the layout was medium and Tony had a bad exit plan, doesn't make it a terrible victory. This is easily the most underrated victory ever. Yet runs like Benzibab and Ahmed Baba get praised all the time, which didn't have particularly hard layouts either. Though I would have given Tony a 7 for the temple run, and I don't think I would have graded Kelly's performance for the steps. Since it was Tony who swup the steps for the Parrots. But either way, I thought it was a great temple run and it deserves all the praise it gets.

Overall, great list. :D
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 04, 2012, 02:49:31 PM
Yay, more rankings! Glad to see this thread get revived after losing most of our progress.
*looks above TRJ's post*
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 04, 2012, 10:18:10 PM

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Mulan was pretty much a snore of an episode. Jessie was just painful to watch during the moat, and they only got to the temple because Stephen hauled ass through most of the rounds. Yet it was HIM who fell apart in the temple. And don't get me started on that Green Monkey boy either. I am so glad he didn't get to the temple. :roll:

I remember someone saying that they didn't like the Green Monkey boy in this episode because he was just showing off. I agree with that person and he acted like a moron in his temple game. But truth be told, I don't think either team deserved to go to the temple.

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Golden Goblet was a pretty blah episode too. From what I see on the rankings, the boys were pretty strong, and the girls were pretty weak. Especially the Purple Parrot girl, who I agree with you that she looked like she didn't want to be on the show. As far as the temple run goes, Rachelle was okay, but she did move pretty slow. I would have given her a 5 for her performance though. I wonder how Taylor would have done had he gone in first instead.

I think I am going to go back  and give her a "5" in the temple also. I mean I gave Chandra a "6.5" and she was much better than Rachelle. Other than that, this episode is really blah.


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Not much else needs to be said about Leopard Skin Cloak, except it was PP Pwnage! It was clear the Blue Barracudas were no match for the Purple Parrots. They were just plain average, while the Parrots truly shined. It's such a pity this team didn't win, but Chandra should not have taken that elevator. I agree about your sentiments on Ahmed Baba and Annie Oakley though. It's nearly the same run, only different artifact location and the former team won. But either way, I agree with your rankings.

This team would rank right up there in with the Billy the Kid team as best Purple Parrot team in the temple. The only thing the Billy the Kid teams has going for them is that they swept the steps. Other than that, both teams finished first in every round except the Annie Oakley lost in the temple run. And the Annie Oakley kids swept the temple games too.

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And Snakeskin Boots, another PP Pwnage episode. And unlike the aforementioned team, Kelly and Tony won. The strongest points were Tony sweeping the steps, Kelly OWNING her individual game, and the close competition in the third temple game. And I completely agree with you about the win itself. I always thought it got a lot of undeserved hate just because they didn't travel through 9 rooms and have 1029384756 objectives to do. Everyone seems to think that this run is just "Robin Hood and Marian's Ladder 2." Just because the layout was medium and Tony had a bad exit plan, doesn't make it a terrible victory. This is easily the most underrated victory ever. Yet runs like Benzibab and Ahmed Baba get praised all the time, which didn't have particularly hard layouts either. Though I would have given Tony a 7 for the temple run, and I don't think I would have graded Kelly's performance for the steps. Since it was Tony who swup the steps for the Parrots. But either way, I thought it was a great temple run and it deserves all the praise it gets.

Seriously, the Green Monkey girl was pathetic in her temple game. I think Kelly made it up the horse 4 or 5 times before the Monkey girl made it. And I noticed a couple of people on Youtube said that Kelly cheated in her temple game. But I disagree, Steven from the Silk Sash of Mulan was going up the horse the same way also. Except, he sucked compared to Kelly.

And this team did complete a fair share of objectives too. Laser Light Room, Dark Forest, and Jester's Court were all objectives. This is about the same amount as Benzibab and Ahmed Baba. I prefer this win over those.
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Overall, great list! :D

Thanks! I want to try to do another one later and can't decide what to do next. Maybe I will test my luck and do Henry Hudson, Xerxes, Kilimanjaro, and Jedidiah Smith production day.  :o
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on April 04, 2012, 10:21:44 PM
I would've given Chandra a higher temple rating and a higher temple rating than Nick. All Nick had to do was get to where Chandra was taken out. Now he did do that, but he acted kind of dumb in the Pit by unnecessarily swinging on the rope. Reminds me of Brian from Bent Shaving Pan, but much better.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 04, 2012, 10:24:44 PM
I would've given Chandra a higher temple rating and a higher temple rating than Nick. All Nick had to do was get to where Chandra was taken out. Now he did do that, but he acted kind of dumb in the Pit by unnecessarily swinging on the rope. Reminds me of Brian from Bent Shaving Pan, but much better.

Yeah, I had a hard time deciding what to give Chandra in the temple. I mean she did great besides taking that elevator and even made it one room away with about a minute left on the clock. And this is taking the same route that Shane took in the temple too. As for Nick, maybe I could lower him down just to a 7. But I don't think he was bad as Brian though. Now that boy looked lost.  ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 04, 2012, 10:38:02 PM
I would've given Chandra a higher temple rating and a higher temple rating than Nick. All Nick had to do was get to where Chandra was taken out. Now he did do that, but he acted kind of dumb in the Pit by unnecessarily swinging on the rope. Reminds me of Brian from Bent Shaving Pan, but much better.

Yeah, I had a hard time deciding what to give Chandra in the temple. I mean she did great besides taking that elevator and even made it one room away with about a minute left on the clock. And this is taking the same route that Shane took in the temple too. As for Nick, maybe I could lower him down just to a 7. But I don't think he was bad as Brian though. Now that boy looked lost.  ;)
Then, it's a good thing Irish went in first instead of Brian. I haven't seen Bent Shaving Pan is a long time, but I remember Brian being very slow. If he had gone in first, Irish probably wouldn't have had a chance to go in. As far as Nick goes, maybe one or two points lower would have been good. I mean, remember his awkward key placement in the King's Storeroom?

Anyways, for your next ones, I say go ahead and do Xerxes/Henry Hudson filming day. Good luck getting decent rankings from those teams though. Since that filming day wasn't very good.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 04, 2012, 10:46:56 PM
I would've given Chandra a higher temple rating and a higher temple rating than Nick. All Nick had to do was get to where Chandra was taken out. Now he did do that, but he acted kind of dumb in the Pit by unnecessarily swinging on the rope. Reminds me of Brian from Bent Shaving Pan, but much better.

Yeah, I had a hard time deciding what to give Chandra in the temple. I mean she did great besides taking that elevator and even made it one room away with about a minute left on the clock. And this is taking the same route that Shane took in the temple too. As for Nick, maybe I could lower him down just to a 7. But I don't think he was bad as Brian though. Now that boy looked lost.  ;)
Then, it's a good thing Irish went in first instead of Brian. I haven't seen Bent Shaving Pan is a long time, but I remember Brian being very slow. If he had gone in first, Irish probably wouldn't have had a chance to go in. As far as Nick goes, maybe one or two points lower would have been good. I mean, remember his awkward key placement in the King's Storeroom?

Anyways, for your next ones, I say go ahead and do Xerxes/Henry Hudson filming day. Good luck getting decent rankings from those teams though. Since that filming day wasn't very good.

Oh God, Kilimanjaro and Xerxes will be painful to go through. The Red Jaguars (Kilimanjaro) and Purple Parrots (Xerxes) deserved to go over the other teams that went to the temple. But Henry Hudson was a good episode IIRC and Jedidiah Smith is forgettable.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 05, 2012, 02:50:25 PM
Here is my rankings for the Kilimanjaro production day. Aside from Henry Hudson, the rest of the episodes were lacking. Kilimanjaro and Xerxes are also some of the worst episodes too.  :roll:

THE SNOW CONE OF MOUNT KILIMANJARO

Casey
Moat: 5.5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 3.5
Overall: 5.5

Heather
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 4
Team Game: 5
Temple Run: 4.5
Overall: 5.7

Nissa
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.25

Kevin
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.25

NOTES:
This episode sucked, I didn't like it at all. The Silver Snakes did not deserve to go to the temple and they barely beat the Red Jaguars in the final temple game. Heather looked pathetic in her temple game where she kept stepping on the same pole that was wrong. Also, she kept stumbling in her team game.

The temple run is not any better and Casey did not know what he was doing either. Heather fails for wasting all that time in the Dark Forest.

THE UPSIDE-DOWN COMPASS OF HENRY HUDSON

Sherra
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 7.2

Derek
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.6

Anna-Claire
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 3
Team Game: 5
Overall: 5.5

David
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 4 (for getting one and ALMOST getting two answers wrong)
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 5.5

NOTES:
This episode was MUCH better than the Snow Cone of Mount Kilimanjaro. Sherra was amazing in the Steps of Knowledge and the Purple Parrots swept their temple games.

The temple run was disappointing though, seeing as the Purple Parrots were strong in the prior rounds. But then again, that layout was brutal so it didn't help the team much. But still, Sherra could've moved faster.

The Green Monkeys kind of sucked also. I am glad they didn't go to the temple.

THE BENT-SHAVING PAN OF JEDIDIAH SMITH

Irish
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 4
Team Game: 5
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5.8

Brian
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 5
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 6.6

Sarah
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.5

Vernon
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.38

NOTES:
Nothing special about this episode at all. Each of the player's shined in different rounds of the  show. I was surprised how low Irish's rankings was, because I thought she was going to rank a lot higher than this. She sucked in her temple game while the Green Monkey girl was dominant. It was the opposite for Brian being better in his temple game. The team temple game was a mess though and both teams were all over the place.

The temple was pretty lacking also. Irish was moving much too slowly and she should've picked up the pace a little more. Even though Brian had little time left on the clock, he was taking his sweet old time in the Pit of the Pendulum. And even with that little time left, he could've made much better progress. Just look at Katie from Imperial Wizard and Elisa from Ivan the Terrible did with their little time in the temple!

THE MARBLE ARMREST OF XERXES

Noelle
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 4
Temple Run: 3
Overall: 5.4

Pat
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 4
Team Game: 5
Tiebreaker: 0
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 5.5

Candice
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.75

Levi
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.5

NOTES:
Congratulations Green Monkeys, you did not deserve to go to the temple at all! Aside from the Steps, this team barely scrapped by each round of the temple. The Purple Parrots absolutely dominated the Steps and its too bad Candice lost her temple game by one pole, or else the Purple Parrots would've gone to the temple with 2 pendants.

Also, Pat was pathetic in his temple game. Even though he had no rocks left to throw, he just standed there for the last 15 seconds and staring at Levi while he was shooting. Kirk even told him to block and did nothing!

And don't get me started on the temple run. :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 05, 2012, 03:18:57 PM
Oh, how robbed was Levi Turney.

I agree with the rankings.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 05, 2012, 05:26:24 PM
Well, here are my thoughts on the latest rankings:

The Snow Cone kids sucked, REALLY BAD. The Red Jaguars should have gone to the temple in that episode, since the Silver Snakes kept barely winning round by round. And the temple run is just so painful to watch. Did both players really spend all three minutes they had traversing the bottom floor? I've only seen the full episode once, and trust me, once is enough for me. :|

The Upside Down Compass episode was alright. While it's not the most exciting episode, it's best of the worst. And PP Pwnage struck once again! But they kind of lost their thunder by the temple run. The layout was pretty tough, but both players moved a little too slow. As for the pre temple rounds, Sherra pretty much led the team, and she kicked ass in her temple game. Derek was just average at best, not much to say about him. The Green Monkeys were horrible though. I echo your sentiments that I am SO glad they didn't go the temple.

The Bent Shaving Pan was basically a snore. Neither team impressed me, and the temple run was lacking a bit. Both players moved way too slow, Brian being the worst of the two. While he truly had little time remaining, he only got as far as the Dark Forest. That's all I have to say about this one.

And god Xerxes.... huge disappointment. The Green Monkeys did NOT deserve to go to the temple. I don't care how lucky they got with the tiebreaker. To say Levi was robbed is an understatement. While him and Candice probably wouldn't have won in the temple, I know they would have done a better job. Should have been the Purple Parrots. :roll:

Keep the rankings coming! :D
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 05, 2012, 05:52:46 PM
Oh, how robbed was Levi Turney.

I agree with the rankings.

Both Purple Parrot players were robbed. I don't even know how the Green Monkeys made it past the moat, much less the temple. If the Purple Parrot girl (Candice) had only won her temple game, then she the Purple Parrots would've gone to the temple with 2 pendants. But she literally lost to Noelle by half a second.

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The Snow Cone kids sucked, REALLY BAD. The Red Jaguars should have gone to the temple in that episode, since the Silver Snakes kept barely winning round by round. And the temple run is just so painful to watch. Did both players really spend all three minutes they had traversing the bottom floor? I've only seen the full episode once, and trust me, once is enough for me.

Be glad you only watched it once, because the episode was really that bad. All of the rounds of the episode were unexciting. And in the temple run, they only made it through five rooms in 3 minutes. That is beyond pathetic for season 3 standards. And even though Heather encountered a locked door, there is no reason why she couldn't have pushed through the wall. One of the worst episodes and runs on the entire show.

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The Upside Down Compass episode was alright. While it's not the most exciting episode, it's best of the worst. And PP Pwnage struck once again! But they kind of lost their thunder by the temple run. The layout was pretty tough, but both players moved a little too slow. As for the pre temple rounds, Sherra pretty much led the team, and she kicked ass in her temple game. Derek was just average at best, not much to say about him. The Green Monkeys were horrible though. I echo your sentiments that I am SO glad they didn't go the temple.

Oh God, the Green Monkey girl was not even trying in her temple game. She kept jumping on the wrong bamboo pole while Sherra made it half way across the poles at least 3 times. Sherra was better than Derek for sure too. I am not sure what happened in the temple run, but they should've made it to the Dark Forest. Sweeping the temple games is a rare feat and I expected more from these Purple Parrots.

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The Bent Shaving Pan was basically a snore. Neither team impressed me, and the temple run was lacking a bit. Both players moved way too slow, Brian being the worst of the two. While he truly had little time remaining, he only got as far as the Dark Forest. That's all I have to say about this one.

And I can't believe we waited forever for this episode on Nick GAS to air. It truly sucked an there is nothing even remarkable about it.

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And god Xerxes.... huge disappointment. The Green Monkeys did NOT deserve to go to the temple. I don't care how lucky they got with the tiebreaker. To say Levi was robbed is an understatement. While him and Candice probably wouldn't have won in the temple, I know they would have done a better job. Should have been the Purple Parrots.  :roll:

Oh they would've probably done 10x better than either of those Green Monkey players. They did nothing impressive throughout the show. yet they made it to the temple. Candice was sooooo close to winning her temple game. If she did win it, they wouldn't have had to worry about the tiebreaker. Such a shame when good teams lose to undeserving teams.

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Keep the rankings coming! :D

Thanks! I want to try the last four episodes of S2L5 (Polynesian Girl, Dolley Madison, Icarus, and Nostradamus). Now those should be good episodes.  :mrred:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 05, 2012, 09:51:55 PM
Also, I forgot to mention just how pathetic Pat was in his individual game. He was literally not even trying towards the last half of the game. He just stood there with a blank look on his face. And after time was called, it looked like he was gonna walk away. :lol: I'm glad Levi beat him. As far as the girls temple game goes, I think Candice would have tied with Noelle instead of outright won. Because didn't Noelle win by one point? But then again, it's been a while since I've seen that episode.

As far as Upside Down Compass goes, yeah the Parrots could have done a better job. Especially since they were so strong pre temple rounds. But their layout was pretty hard, so victory was pretty slim anyways. Though sweeping the temple games isn't too rare of a feature. It's great when a team does that well, but it's not a very uncommon thing. But, that's just me. :P

And S2L5 is a great choice of rankings to do next. Some of the most exciting episodes (Levitating Dog Leash, Priceless Portrait) are from that filming day. That should be a breath of fresh air from your current rankings.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on April 06, 2012, 03:52:22 PM
If you've been following along in the spam topic, I decided to join in on the ranking fun and give two runs a try. I mainly wanted to see how two certain players did to see if they deserve the criticism they get: Shane from Very Tall Turban and Amanda from Mussel-Shell Armor. I also ranked their partners. And no, I didn't rank their opponents. Multitasking like that isn't my strong suit. Let's see how all four did.

The Very Tall Turban of Ahmed Baba

Shane
Moat: 9
SoK: N/A*
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 7.5
Overall: 7.5

Jamie
Moat: 7.5
SoK: 9
Individual Temple Game: 4.5
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: N/A (never entered)
Overall: 7

*Shane never attempted anything in the Steps, so I can't really judge him here.

Overall, this was a good episode. However, it's episodes like this that make me feel ashamed to be a Purple Parrot fan. :( The PPs in this episode were pretty good. They seemed to be the better team in the temple games, but two noticeable goof-ups cost this team a shot at the temple. Jason of the PPs was owning his temple game, but two turbans that he grabbed failed to get into the bucket. And I think we all know about the team temple game. :cry:

As for the rankings, both Green Monkey players were about average. Both players kind of had a hard time with all their temple games, but they weren't necessarily bad. Again, it was the PPs that gave this one away. They were both solid in the moat. Jamie was really good in the SoK. Then there's the temple run. I thought Shane moved pretty fast. Of course, I had to take points off for not taking a more efficient path. He also got caught up in the Swamp and struggled with the Silver Monkey. This is where Kirk helped him and because of this, more points were taken away. However, because Shane was fast and because he really wasn't that clueless, I gave him a 7.5. I say he was just slightly above average and the overall ranking reflects this, while Jamie was just about average. In the end, Shane deserves more credit for his effort in the temple. I thought he was a fairly good player.

The Mussel-Shell Armor of Apanuugpak

Amanda
Moat: 10
SoK: 5
Individual Temple Game: 7.5
Team Temple Game: 5.5
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7

Gator
Moat: 10
SoK: 9
Individual Temple Game: 10
Team Temple Game: 8.5
Temple Run: 10
Overall: Are you ready for this? 9.5!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

I don't think Amanda was that bad. Just like Gator, she blazed through the moat without falling off. Definitely deserving of a 10 here. She kind of tried to help in the SoK, but she never answered any question. Now because she did attempt to ring in (unlike Shane), I gave her a 5. In her temple game, Amanda's opponent was much faster than she was, but she was more efficient when dropping the fishes in the bucket. Now the team temple game was kind of hard to judge. It was the "shoot the soldiers" game and both teams only knocked down one soldier. Even though she wasn't the one to knock down their soldier, I gave her a 5.5 for giving it effort. Her aim wasn't that bad. I really think this temple game is pretty hard. Now for the temple run. I thought she moved at an average pace. She knew what she was doing for the most part. I had to take points off for dangling on the pit rope. I gave her a 7 for this one because she was about average. Overall, she was an average player.

Now Gator is a totally different story, in a great way. Blazed through the moat, great in the SoK (he and Amanda were 2nd, but that's beside the point), amazing in his temple game, and blazing fast in the temple. The only complaint I have for him was the team temple game, but I've already gone there. He knocked the soldier down and had good aim, so I gave him an 8.5. Overall, amazing player that gets a 9.5 overall ranking.

Wow, this was harder than I thought! :lol:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 06, 2012, 04:08:45 PM
Told you Gator is one of the greatest. :lol:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 06, 2012, 05:23:17 PM
Good rankings overall. ;)

For "The Very Tall Turban of Ahmed Baba", both players were great. Its not like Shane and Jamie didn't deserve to go to the temple.  I think those rankings are fair for either player. So if Jamie had to go into the temple, I think she would've been respectable.

And no doubt in my mind is Gator is one of the best players on Legends. I remember Amanda being good in her individual game even if she was a little slow in it. But man Gator destroyed his temple game, As for the temple, Amanda did just a fine job. Other than the time wasted in the Pit, she did respectable for her short time in the temple. She may have not been Gator fast, but that doesn't mean she wasn't good. Great team overall.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 06, 2012, 06:38:15 PM
Wow, Gator did GREAT in your rankings. :shock: But he deserves it, easily one of the best players this show has ever seen. Amanda was good, but she was just average. She knew what she was doing, but it was Gator that was better.

And Shane and Jamie from Tall Turban were a decent team. Jamie pretty much led the team the whole way, I wonder how she would have done in the temple. And yeah, the Purple Parrots REALLY choked in the third temple game. They had such a solid lead, but blew it at the last second. :( But for the most part, the Green Monkeys still deserved to go to the temple. As for the run itself, I found Shane average at best. He knew what he was doing, and he gave it good effort. But like most have said before, he took a path that cost other teams (like Chandra) a chance at victory. And overall, I never found the victory to be that exciting. I guess he deserves some credit, but I'm still not entirely impressed with him.

But, great rankings either way. I look forward to more. :D
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 12, 2012, 02:26:23 PM
Just finished the last four episodes of S2L5! All of these episodes were great, but my personal favorite were "Polynesian Girl" and "Nostradamus". The other two were good also.

THE LEVITATING DOG LEASH OF NOSTRADAMUS

Elizabeth
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: N/A
Team Game: 7
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: 7.5
Overall: 7.63

Jason
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 8.5
Overall: 7.3

Cara
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: N/A
Team Game: 6
Overall: 5.67

Christopher
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 7
Overall: 8.25

NOTES:
This was a great episode, and both teams were strong for the most part. The Purple Parrot boy, Christopher, was a beast in each round of the temple. He dominated the Steps and his individual temple game, and both teams did well in their team game.

I didn't evaluate the girl's individual game since it was luck-based. So I just gae both girls a "N/A" in that category.

The temple run was great also and the Orange Iguanas both did good. Even though Elizabeth didn't last long in the temple, I still gae her a good score on account that she moved fast and signal the half-pendant to Jason.

THE BROKEN WING OF ICARUS

April
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 7.5

Jason
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 8.5
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 7.3

Lisa
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.5

Kevin
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Tiebreaker: -1
Team Game: 8
Overall: 7.75

NOTES:
This episode was better than I remembered, and both teams were strong. But ultimately, I felt like the Silver Snakes deserved to go to the temple.

In the moat, both Green and Silver made it across first and second, and neither of them fell in either unlike the previous episode where the other two teamskept falling in.

The Silver Snakes were great in the Steps, and the Green Monkeys were right behind them.

In the individual games, the only reason April won her first game was because the Silver Snake boy (Kevin) kept knocking his birds down. Jason destroyed his temple game also and Lisa had no chance.

For the team game, it seemed like Jason gave up towards the end of it. So I gave him a lower score.

And the tiebreaker was disappointing. How did the Silver Snakes not know it was Atlantis? Regardless of the tiebreaker, I felt this team was slightly stronger and should've gone too the temple.

And we all know the story of the temple run. I felt like a "5" was being too generous to Jason, considering he kept backtracking to deadends and took the worst possible route of the temple. But still, he almost turned it into a solo victory if that says anything.

THE BONNET OF DOLLEY MADISON

Ashlie
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.4

Matt
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 6.5
Temple Run: 9
Overall: 7.9

Jessica
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 5
Overall: 7

Dwayne
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.5
 
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Oh wow, Ashlie almost cost her team a trip to the temple games. She got a total of 3 wrong answers in the steps! But she did get one answer right though, which saved her from gettig a lower score. The Purple Parrot girl was a beast at the Steps too.

No comment about the temple games. The Orange Iguanas swept the temple games and made the Purple Parrots look sucky. In the last team game, the Purple Parrots looked very sloppy and kept dropping the pieces of treasure/

Matt was amazing in the temple run! He got caught up a little bit in the Ledges, but after that he moved super fast and complted the Observatory in like six seconds. Had he no chosen the Ledges, this would've been an amazing temple win! Ashlie was not bad either, but she kept tripping and I had to deduct points for her mishap in the Dark Forest.

THE PRICELESS PORTRAIT OF THE POLYNESIAN GIRL

Kristen
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 6.5
Overall: 7.7

Jim
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 3.5
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 6.6

Janet
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 4
Overall: 7.0

Chris
Moat: 10
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7.5
Team Game: 5
Overall: 7.63

NOTES:
I forgot how much I love this episode! It was very exciting to watch and both the Silver Snakes and Purple Parrots were very competitive. If this episode would've ended in a win, then it would easily be a top 10 episode for me.

The Purple Parrots made the moat look easy, while Jim kind of struggled in the moat. Kristen didn't have any real problems though.

The Silver Snakes were amazing in the Steps. They answer two questions together at the same time and Kristen got one answer right withouth any choices being revealed. The Purple Parrot girl was a beast also.

The team game for this episode was very sloppy and both teams kept missing the buckets with their balls. Jim looked pretty bad in the team game while Kristen was making all the basket shots. The Purple Parrots were all over the place in this game also.

For the temple run, Jim didn't last long but he didn't really do anything special or wrong, so I gave him a good score. Kristen on the other hand hesitated at the beginning of the run and moved kind of slow up until the Shrine. She did haul ass on the bottom floor though, so that boost her score a little bit. If she hadn't hesitated in the Pit though, then this team would've won. Or if Jim had gone in second, I think they would've had a better chance of winning.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 12, 2012, 02:43:39 PM
Elizabeth's ranking seems a bit lenient, but otherwise, not bad. These rankings are agreeable. :)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 12, 2012, 02:45:06 PM
Elizabeth's ranking seems a bit lenient, but otherwise, not bad. These rankings are agreeable. :)

In which category in particular? I guess the temple run might be a little high and I could lower her Steps down a little bit, but she was a good contestant though.  :mrorange:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 12, 2012, 02:47:05 PM
Elizabeth's ranking seems a bit lenient, but otherwise, not bad. These rankings are agreeable. :)

In which category in particular? I guess the temple run might be a little high and I could lower her Steps down a little bit, but she was a good contestant though.  :mrorange:
Temple Run is a little too high.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on April 12, 2012, 02:51:28 PM
I'd give Elizabeth a 6.75 or 7. But other than that, those rankings look good. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 12, 2012, 04:34:07 PM
Ah, the final production day of Season 2. That was a pretty goldmine of a filming day, even if only Nostradamus was a win that day. So, here are my thoughts:

Nostradamus was a great episode from beginning to end. And what a coincidence that I was just watching this run the other day. I happen to think Elizabeth's rankings are fine. The temple run might be a bit lenient, but then didn't even last long anyways. I remember Jason REALLY struggling in his temple game. But those ceiling games are pretty crappy anyways, so I won't hold it against him too much. The Purple Parrots were also a solid team, especially the Purple Parrot boy. Too much they choked once again at the tiebreaker. I wish both teams would have gone to the temple, but the Orange Iguanas definitely deserved it more. And the temple run was great. Both Elizabeth and Jason did great.

The Broken Wing of Icarus was actually a very exciting episode. The Green Monkeys and The Silver Snakes dominated this episode. From being 1 and 2 in the moat, double sweeping the steps, and tying 1 pendant in the temple games. Too bad the Silver Snakes choked at the tiebreaker though. They probably would have done better in the temple. As far as the run itself goes, Jason sucked. At least he made it to the artifact, and the ending WAS a nailbiter. But, he ended up blowing it at the end, so his low ranking was deserved. Also, didn't it look like April was gonna cry after time was called? She looked upset, and she kept wiping her eyes during the end credits. If that were the case, then I wouldn't blame her.

The Bonnet of Dolley Madison was also another episode I've seen recently. It was a good episode. Man, did Ashlie suck during the steps or what? They just barely got down to the bottom because rang in incorrectly three times. The Parrots on the other hand OWNED IT on the steps. The temple games were good though, but the Iguanas destroyed the Parrots. Especially in that third game, when the Parrots kept dropping their pieces. They were clearly no match for the Iguanas. The temple run was exciting, but disappointing. Matt was a BEAST in the temple, in the little time he lasted. Just look at the way he assembled that stone column. If only he didn't try for a direct path, it could have been an amazing solo win. Ashlie was okay, she looked like she was a pain the whole time she was running. Probably because of her trip up the stairs. Too bad she screwed up in the Dark Forest, and couldn't even get out of the Jesters' court once she DID grab the bonnet.

And finally The Priceless Portrait, where we are reunited with those Purple Parrots who got DQ'd in the Applewood Amulet's moat crossing. They were a good team, but they sort of choked in the third temple game. The Silver Snakes were a good team, but I liked Jim better than I did Kristen. I agree with you that this run could have been a win if Jim had gone in second. Speaking of the temple run, it was a good effort. Kristen hesitated way too much, but at least she found the half pendant. And it wasn't even SIGNALED to her. Christina from Secret Battle Plan, take note. The last seconds of the run were pretty exciting, since it was the first time an artifact was even REACHED in the bottom central shaft. But, time ran out nonetheless. On a more off topic note, who thinks the crew just randomly put the Portrait in the Laser Light Room, just for the fact "an artifact has never been in there before?" Great way to wrap up Season 2 though, even if it wasn't a win.

Also, notice how the Purple Parrots made it to 3/4 of the temple games in this episode, but lost each time? Two times to the Orange Iguanas, no less. Darn, but those other teams still deserved it anyways.

Great rankings like always! :mrred:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 12, 2012, 06:31:53 PM
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Nostradamus was a great episode from beginning to end. And what a coincidence that I was just watching this run the other day. I happen to think Elizabeth's rankings are fine. The temple run might be a bit lenient, but then didn't even last long anyways. I remember Jason REALLY struggling in his temple game. But those ceiling games are pretty crappy anyways, so I won't hold it against him too much. The Purple Parrots were also a solid team, especially the Purple Parrot boy. Too much they choked once again at the tiebreaker. I wish both teams would have gone to the temple, but the Orange Iguanas definitely deserved it more. And the temple run was great. Both Elizabeth and Jason did great.

Yeah, the Purple Parrot boy (Christopher) pretty much carried the team throughout the episode. And I agree, those ceiling games sucked because the contestants would always knock down the stuff they hang on the ceiling. But Jason still kind of struggled with that game compared to Christopher.

And I might knock Elizabeth down to a "7" in the temple run (which I originally planned to give her.) Other than that, she moved pretty well and even pointed out the half-pendant to Jason. They were both good and one of the best Orange Iguanas wins.

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The Broken Wing of Icarus was actually a very exciting episode. The Green Monkeys and The Silver Snakes dominated this episode. From being 1 and 2 in the moat, double sweeping the steps, and tying 1 pendant in the temple games. Too bad the Silver Snakes choked at the tiebreaker though. They probably would have done better in the temple. As far as the run itself goes, Jason sucked. At least he made it to the artifact, and the ending WAS a nailbiter. But, he ended up blowing it at the end, so his low ranking was deserved. Also, didn't it look like April was gonna cry after time was called? She looked upset, and she kept wiping her eyes during the end credits. If that were the case, then I wouldn't blame her.

I always remember hating "Icarus" until I watched the episode again today. It was actually a very competitive episode between the Green Monkeys and Silver Snakes. The Silver Snakes did very well in the temple games, but the Silver Snake boy got unlucky in the ceiling game and should've won over April, but he kept knocking down the birds. And yeah, they choked big time during the tiebreaker. You would think Atlantis would be an easy answer too.

And looking back at the ending of the run, April did look both upset and astonished.  :shock: Then again, I would too if my partner was mere inches away from victory. But rewatching the ending of the run, it looked like Jason gave up in those last 10 seconds while trying to get out of the Ledges. He doesn't even make an effort to try and climb out! Olivia-Emma and Tarrah were in the same situation as him, but they hauled ass and managed to get it back to the temple gate. Jason just sucked at the end period.

And speaking of crying, it looked like the Silver Snake girl was going to cry during the tiebreaker. I would too if my partner got an answer like that wrong.  :roll:

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The Bonnet of Dolley Madison was also another episode I've seen recently. It was a good episode. Man, did Ashlie suck during the steps or what? They just barely got down to the bottom because rang in incorrectly three times. The Parrots on the other hand OWNED IT on the steps. The temple games were good though, but the Iguanas destroyed the Parrots. Especially in that third game, when the Parrots kept dropping their pieces. They were clearly no match for the Iguanas. The temple run was exciting, but disappointing. Matt was a BEAST in the temple, in the little time he lasted. Just look at the way he assembled that stone column. If only he didn't try for a direct path, it could have been an amazing solo win. Ashlie was okay, she looked like she was a pain the whole time she was running. Probably because of her trip up the stairs. Too bad she screwed up in the Dark Forest, and couldn't even get out of the Jesters' court once she DID grab the bonnet.

I don't know what happened to Ashlie during the temple run. She kept tripping and falling in every room of the temple. Then in the Dark Forest, you could tell she was getting frustrated and loss. I wonder what happened? Did she get lost on where to stick the key? And I didn't even pay attention to the detail either about her having a hard time getting out of the Dark Forest.  :o I might have to deduct more for her. Had Matt not gone through the Ledges though, then this would've been a solo victory at the pace he was moving.

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And finally The Priceless Portrait, where we are reunited with those Purple Parrots who got DQ'd in the Applewood Amulet's moat crossing. They were a good team, but they sort of choked in the third temple game. The Silver Snakes were a good team, but I liked Jim better than I did Kristen. I agree with you that this run could have been a win if Jim had gone in second. Speaking of the temple run, it was a good effort. Kristen hesitated way too much, but at least she found the half pendant. And it wasn't even SIGNALED to her. Christina from Secret Battle Plan, take note. The last seconds of the run were pretty exciting, since it was the first time an artifact was even REACHED in the bottom central shaft. But, time ran out nonetheless. On a more off topic note, who thinks the crew just randomly put the Portrait in the Laser Light Room, just for the fact "an artifact has never been in there before?" Great way to wrap up Season 2 though, even if it wasn't a win.

So those were the Purple Parrots from Emiliano Zapata? I knew they looked familiar before! I didn't know they were the ones from that episode, but I am glad they were given a second go. Although I am surprised they waited until the last episode to give them a second chance.

And I wonder what made Kristen go back to the Pit? I guess she saw it after running by it in the first place? And then she proceeds up to the Observatory afterwards. But she did move too slowly on the top floor though. Had she not wasted that time, she could've gotten it out of the temple. But then again, the ending is very exciting and its one of my top 5 losses on the show.

And I am glad that you weren't the only surprised about the artifact location either.  :o I thought it was totally random (and cool) that they threw it in the Laser Light Room. I am surprised that was the only time an artifact was in that room also. It appeared in 20 episodes in total (not counting "Nathan Hale") and only one artifact appeared there once! Then again, that might explain why there weren't any bottom of the central shaft wins on the show. Between season 1 and 2, there were only four artifacts located down there.  :o

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Also, notice how the Purple Parrots made it to 3/4 of the temple games in this episode, but lost each time? Two times to the Orange Iguanas, no less. Darn, but those other teams still deserved it anyways.

Its not unusual for the Purple Parrots to lose the temple games.  :mrpurple: But these group of Purple Parrots were actually competitive and not pushover ones like in past episodes. Although the "Dolley Madison" Purple Parrots didn't really have a chance in the temple games.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 16, 2012, 12:18:29 PM
I wen ahead and did rankings for the "Frederick Douglass" production day. I only liked "The Mystical Spellbook of the Imperial Wizard" as an episode as a whole. The rest of the episodes were sucky or forgettable.

THE SMASHED PRINTING PLATE OF FREDERICK DOUGLASS

Jason
Moat: 5.5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 1
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 5.1

Dana
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 2
Overall: 6.0

Sharon
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 5
Overall: 5.75

Gary
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.0

NOTES:
This episode was... okay. Each team shined in a certain round of the show. For the Purple Parrots, it was the Steps of Knowlege. For the Red Jaguars, it was the temple games.

The Purple Parrot boy (Gary) was amazing in the Steps! He got the first three answers correct without Olmec revealing all the choices.

The Red Jaguars dominated the temple games. Jason made his tmeple game look easy by only falling off the horse once and making several basket tosses, while the Purple Parrot boy kept getting knocked off. The female temple game was close up until the Purple Parrot girl missed the basket with her last bottle of ink. Had she not done this, then she could've tied with Dana.

For the team game, Jason most definitely cheated in it. In this game, the teams were suppose to cross the poles one boy one. But on two occasions, Jason tried jumping to another pole when he was not suppose to. He looked like an idiot also on choosing the wrong pole. But Dana did win the temple game fair and square, so I won't count this as a tainted win.

And the temple run is just so unbearable to watch. Jason was a moron in the temple. He looked confused on several occasions and kept backtracking between the Ancient Warriors and Chamber. Dana, while not having enough time in the temple, showed us she was useless also. I mean she used the wrong door in the Pit! You sweep the temple games and you put on a half-assed performance?

At the end of the day, none of the players really stood out and the Red Jaguars blew their load in the temple run.

THE MYSTICAL SPELLBOOK OF THE IMPERIAL WIZARD

Jared
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 5.5
Overall: 7.1

Katie
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7.4

Larissa
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7.5
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 4.5
Overall: 6.25

Mike
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

NOTES:
First off, "Wing Ding" and "Ring Ling"? :roll:

This episode was better than I remembered. In the moat, the Silver Snake girl got across first while the Silver Snake boy was the last one to ring in because he kept dangling on the rope. :roll:

Nothing much to say about the temple games, except we have another temple game sweep. Jared got screwed in his temple game, where he had to stand around for ten seconds because he knocked down one of the ingredients before one of the spotters said he could grab it. The Silver Snake girl was taking her plain old time in this game.

Neither Jared or Katie were bad players in the temple run. It was a combination of a tough layout and wasted time in the Dark Forest that caused this team to lose. Jared kind of hesitated at the beginning, but he picked it up once he got out of the Pit. Too bad he got lost in the Dark Forest - that is where this run went wrong. Katie ran her ass off to get to where Jared was left off, but it wasn't good enough as her partner didn't leave her with enough time.

THE USELESS MAP OF THE CHIBCHA CHIEFTAIN

Hallie
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: N/A
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.38

Jared
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 6
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7.8

Erin
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: N/A
Overall: 6.67

Antonio
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 8
Overall: 7.38

NOTES:
Nothing really much to say about this episode, the numbers could do the talking. Its disappointing though that the temple run ended in triple capture, It would've helped if the Orange Iguanas won their final temple game, and then they would've had two pendants. Both Hallie and Jared moved well in the temple despite being forced up the central shaft. They should've reached the Map if they weren't captured by all three temple guards.

It was really hard to evaluate the team game, since the Silver Snake boy made it across on his first guess while Jared lost about halfway through the Bamboo Forest. So I didn't evaluate Hallie or Erin for this game.


THE GOLDEN SPIDER WEB OF ROBERT THE BRUCE

Christine
Moat: 5.5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.3

Jeremy
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 3
Team Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 5.7

Caroline
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 5.5
Overall: 6.25

Justin
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.63

NOTES:
Wow, this episode was very boring and neither team was really that great. None of the contestants were able to reach a score of 7, which was really pathetic for season 3.

For Jeremy's temple game, I had to deduct more points than usual for that that short cut even if it was an honest mistake. But overall, this episode is boring and average and I literally almost fell asleep while watching it.



Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 16, 2012, 03:46:42 PM
Oh god, it hurts to sit through this production day. Since most of them episodes were either average or just plain bad. But, here are my thoughts:

Man, I hate the Smashed Printing Plate episode so much. It's literally one of the worst episodes in the history of the show and there's a reason I've only seen the full episode once. The Parrots OWNED IT during the steps, only to get destroyed in the temple games. :roll: And Jason totally cheated in the team game! Not only there too, but I believe he cheated in his individual game too. Jason kept making basket tosses while the Purple Parrot boy fell off the horse. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you supposed to wait until the opponent gets back on the horse to start making tosses again? Dana won her temple game fair and square, but only because the Purple Parrot girl threw her jar of ink too far. And we just discussed the third temple game, but at least Dana didn't cheat. And don't even get me started on the temple run. Terrible performance by both players. Jason was slow and clueless, and Dana is far and away the most obnoxious contestant ever.  And after running her mouth all run, Dana couldn't even get out of the Pit in the 30 seconds she had. Pathetic. I agree with your sentiment on how could this team sweeps the temple games, only to give a lousy temple performance. This team did not deserve to go to the temple. Should've been the Purple Parrots.

I actually like the Mystikal Spellbook episode. The Green Monkeys were a very strong team all day, while the Silver Snakes were just plain average. As far as the temple run goes, Katie should have gone first. She had a MUCH better job what to do in the minute she had than Jared did all run. But, it was a hard layout, so I don't think they would have won either way.

The Useless Map was an average episode. The Orange Iguanas were a very dominant team until the third temple game. The biggest downfall was Jared tripping in his third temple game. So he basically cost the Iguanas the full pendant. Such a shame their run ended in triple capture. What rotten luck they had. Though Hallie should have gone up into the King's Storeroom instead of going into the Tomb. Had the run not ended in triple capture, they would have grabbed the Map, maybe even brought it out too.

And finally Golden Spider Web. I've only seen the full episode once or twice, but all I remember about it is that it's a snore of an episode. And of course we got Jeremy's cheating in his temple game. Which I still say it was an honest mistake. But either way, he wasn't that great of a player and his low temple game score is still deserved. Even if the team had the full pendant, no way would they make it past the Jesters' Court with the layout they had.

Great rankings like always. Which production day are you gonna do next?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 16, 2012, 09:23:20 PM

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Oh god, it hurts to sit through this production day. Since most of them episodes were either average or just plain bad. But, here are my thoughts:

Man, I hate the Smashed Printing Plate episode so much. It's literally one of the worst episodes in the history of the show and there's a reason I've only seen the full episode once. The Parrots OWNED IT during the steps, only to get destroyed in the temple games. :roll: And Jason totally cheated in the team game! Not only there too, but I believe he cheated in his individual game too. Jason kept making basket tosses while the Purple Parrot boy fell off the horse. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you supposed to wait until the opponent gets back on the horse to start making tosses again? Dana won her temple game fair and square, but only because the Purple Parrot girl threw her jar of ink too far. And we just discussed the third temple game, but at least Dana didn't cheat. And don't even get me started on the temple run. Terrible performance by both players. Jason was slow and clueless, and Dana is far and away the most obnoxious contestant ever.  And after running her mouth all run, Dana couldn't even get out of the Pit in the 30 seconds she had. Pathetic. I agree with your sentiment on how could this team sweeps the temple games, only to give a lousy temple performance. This team did not deserve to go to the temple. Should've been the Purple Parrots.

I wasn't really paying attention to the rules of Jason's temple game, so I might have to go back and watch it. But I wouldn't put it past him for trying to cheat in his individual game. Although the Purple Parrot boy did suck and kept falling off the horse every five seconds. Dana's game would've ended in a tie if it wasn't for the Purple Parrot girl, and the team game was only won on Dana's part. Jason was an idiot for cheating twice and always trying the wrong pole.

And oh God, that temple run has pissed me off from day one. Jason wasted too much time in the temple and he didn't have an ounce of a clue on what he was doing. Not only that, he kept backtracking between the Chamber and Ancient Warriors. And while Dana did not have enough time, she could've made it past the Pit at least. Look at Katie in the next episode - she had only 40 seconds left but she made it one room away from the artifact! No excuse for this temple run to end so poorly.

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I actually like the Mystikal Spellbook episode. The Green Monkeys were a very strong team all day, while the Silver Snakes were just plain average. As far as the temple run goes, Katie should have gone first. She had a MUCH better job what to do in the minute she had than Jared did all run. But, it was a hard layout, so I don't think they would have won either way.

I liked that episode too and wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. And I don't think this team would've really won in the temple run either, but rewatching this run reminded me how Katie had to haul ass in order to reach where her partner was taken out. It didn't help though that this team encountered a temple guard one room away from the artifact, especially when it comes to season three and they had to complete all those objectives. They would've had to encounter all the temple guards in order to win.

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The Useless Map was an average episode. The Orange Iguanas were a very dominant team until the third temple game. The biggest downfall was Jared tripping in his third temple game. So he basically cost the Iguanas the full pendant. Such a shame their run ended in triple capture. What rotten luck they had. Though Hallie should have gone up into the King's Storeroom instead of going into the Tomb. Had the run not ended in triple capture, they would have grabbed the Map, maybe even brought it out too.

Yeah, Hallie should've gone up to the King's Storeroom for sure. I bet the Ledges would've opened also had she tried it instead. But both players were good in the temple despite the bad outcome. That is why I don't give this team a hard time compared to other triple captures in where it could've been avoided in the first place.

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And finally Golden Spider Web. I've only seen the full episode once or twice, but all I remember about it is that it's a snore of an episode. And of course we got Jeremy's cheating in his temple game. Which I still say it was an honest mistake. But either way, he wasn't that great of a player and his low temple game score is still deserved. Even if the team had the full pendant, no way would they make it past the Jesters' Court with the layout they had.

That layout was awful also, but neither player was fast to begin with so it wouldn't have matter if he found the half-pendant or not. Although it would've helped if Christine tried all three books in the Crypt and move a little faster.

And I don't think Jeremy was intentionally trying to cheat either. He probably didn't know any better about that little space between the net and platform. At least the spotters and Kirk corrected him the second they saw him do it, so its not like the Silver Snake boy got screwed out of a half-pendant like in other episodes.
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Great rankings like always. Which production day are you gonna do next?

I am thinking of doing the first production day of S2L2. Some of those episodes kind of sucked, but I am interested in ranking the "Dr. Livingstone" team.  :mrblue:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 08, 2012, 02:25:24 PM
Its been a while since we had rankings, but I went ahead and did the middle set of episodes from S2L2:

THE MUSH POT HAT OF JOHNNY APPLESEED

Chris
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7.6

Angela
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 4
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.6

Andrea
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 5.5
Overall: 6.63

Jamal
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7.5
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.88

NOTES:
This episode was pretty decent and most of the rounds were very close also. There is not much to really comment on.

During the Steps, we had a three way tie in the second to last step. We also had a rare moment where three answers were allowed for one question.

The temple games were VERY close and it almost ended in a 2-2 pendant tie. Even though the second temple game ended in a tie, I gave the Green Monkeys boy a lower score on account that he was very sloppy.

The team game was very sloppy though and Angela kept failing to grab an apple and dropping them in the bin. I don't think she even got one apple into the container. Although the Green Monkeys were sloppy too in this game and kept missing easy shots.

The temple run was decent which resulted in a close loss. Although Angela could've picked the pace up a little bit in the Wall Climb. Although forcing them to take the elevator did not help them out much at all. It was still a good run and perhaps could've been a solo if Chris started in the Ledges.

THE CRACKED CROWN OF THE SPANISH KING

Josh
Moat: 5.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.7

Kerry
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 6.5
Temple Run: 3
Overall: 6.1

Winter
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 2
Team Game: 1
Overall: 4.0

Marshall
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 7.5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.88

NOTES:
I hate this episode so much. In the previous episode, the teams did not have as much trouble in the moat as they did in they did in this one.

In the moat, both of the girls got across on their first try, albeit being a little slow in crossing. The boys kind of sucked though and the Green Monkey boy fell in a couple of times.

The temple games sucked though. Winter looked pathetic in her temple game where she lost in 12 seconds, and she did not know how to aim in her team game.

The Orange Iguanas though were better than I thought in the temple games and they deserved to go to the temple.

But the temple run sucks major ass. Josh was not that bad, but he wasn't great either. He wasted time trying the direct path and he got taken out quick. Kerry sucked major ass though and she is so damn slow slow! How she even made it to the Shrine is beyond me.

Just a pathetic episode.

THE IMPERIAL PURPLE ROBE OF EMPRESS THEODORA

Ashley
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 5.5
Overall: 6.0

Joshua
Moat: 3
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 6.5
Overall: 6.5

Laura
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

Steven
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

NOTES:
Hey look, its Jim and Kristen! I still wonder why they were allowed to come back later on in the season when they made it across the moat. But they kicked ass at the moat, it was a shame they didn't make it onto the temple games or even the temple

But the Green Monkeys were terrible at the moat. They were so bad that you never see Joshua cross it because they had to edit it. Orange and Green also finished third and fourth in this moat.

In the temple games, we had another close and potential 2-2 tie. Both teams were on par with each other, so they were competitive for the first two games. The Orange Iguanas had bad luck in the team game though, but everyone was making good shots. The Green Monkeys ultimately won 2-1.

The temple run was decent, but it was the slowness on both players parts that caused this team to lose. Ashley just trotted along the bottom floor and really could've picked up her speed. Joshua followed up nicely, but he could've grabbed the robe if he let the elevator descent a little further.

Overall, a good episode even if the ending was disappointing.

THE STONE HEAD OF THE EVIL KING

Heather
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 8.5
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 5.5
Overall: 7.1

Tony
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 3.5
Overall: 6.5

Kristin
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.38

Chris
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.0

NOTES:
Finally, an episode with no Green-Orange matchup.

The Silver Snakes looked great in the moat, especially the Silver Snake girl. Heather struggled a lot though and fell in a few times, but she still made it across. Tony fell in once, but he moved fast and made it across for the team to score second. Luckily I didn't have to sit through the rest of that moat.

Poor Heather, she just couldn't get her gong to press down during the Steps.

The temple games were a Blue Barracuda sweep, and the Silver Snakes didn't really stand a chance against Heather and Tony. Although Tony's temple game look like it should've ended in a tie. Not that it mattered, because the Silver Snakes were no match for the Blue Barracudas.

And the temple run is so disappointing. Heather was okay in the temple, but she moved kind of slow and didn't last long. Tony is a failure though for wasting all that time in Medusa's Lair and for smashing the pots like a moron in the King's Storeroom.

What a disappointing outcome for a team that was pretty dominant in the earlier rounds of the episode. The temple run is what really brought both player's scores down.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 08, 2012, 04:50:06 PM
Ah, the infamous "Shaking log" production day. Where the moats have terrible editing and missing fog due to the long moats. Anyways, my thoughts are as follows:

Mush Pot Hat was a pretty good episode. The Green Monkeys and the Orange Iguanas were just about on par with each other. Not much to say about this episode other than it could have been a solo victory had Chris started in the Ledges. Or if Angela had picked up the pace a bit in the Pit. Not the Wall Climb like you said. *cough* ;)

I hate the Cracked Crown episode. It all started with the REALLY long moat. This had to have been the "45 minute moat" for sure. Looks how long it takes to even get the THIRD TEAM across. The moat fog is completely gone not long after the second team (which I think was the Orange Iguanas) got across. The steps were nothing special, the temple games were pretty painful to watch too. Winter, (the female Green Monkey) was utterly pathetic in her temple game. She fell off the horse literally in seconds. That's the only reason Kerry even won her game. I don't remember the team game performance, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Green Monkeys sucked there too. And the temple run was just awful. Josh should've gone in second. Not Miss "I'm gonna walk through every room and take a wrong turn at the end of the run" Kerry. I don't watch this full episode very much. And now you know why. Plus, this was one of the overplayed ones on Nick Gas. :|

Impress Theodora was an average episode. Having just seen this one not long ago, this moat was also pretty heavily edited. I agree about the Green Monkeys sucking at this moat. I mean, weren't they the 4th team to finish, and the mist was just starting to disappear then? The steps were an average round, see notes below for my thoughts on it. The temple games were a pretty close match, and yes the Green Monkeys and the Orange Iguanas are best friends on this filming day. :lol: Only this time, the Green Monkeys go to the temple. Could have been a 2 pendant tie if it wasn't for the Orange Iguanas sucking at the third temple game. Neither player could even knock a soldier down before time was up. So I think your scores on them were a little too generous. But, that's just me. The temple run was alright, both players were kind of slow. Too bad the elevator kept stalling at the last second. If it weren't for that, could have been a last second grab. But, this close loss wasn't as exciting as the "Blue Pearl" episode.

And finally, Stone Head. This was a pretty disappointing episode. The intro is heavily edited because of yet another long moat crossing. Though this moat wasn't nearly as bad as "Cracked Crown's" moat. Since the fog didn't start disappearing until after the third team had crossed. The Blue Barracudas owned it in the temple games, the Silver Snakes were most certainly no match for them. Still a good competition despite the sweep. The temple run sucked. Heather was slow and got lost so easily and what little time she was in the temple for. Tony was pathetic. While 4 snakes in Medusa's head is a bit much, he spent over a minute figuring it out. And don't get me started on how poorly he smashed those pots. After time was called, you can tell Heather looked SO PISSED that they lost. And Tony looked equally as pissed as well.

Other notes I have:
* The Mush Pot Hat moat is the only episode where the players don't struggle immensely at the moat. That's seriously the shortest moat to feature "the shaky log." Correct me if I'm wrong though.
* And yes, we see the Silver Snakes from the "Priceless Portrait" episode here. But instead of losing the moat, they lost at the steps, after not getting any questions right. I wonder how they were still let on the show, since these guys didn't actually lose at the moat? Oh well, I'm glad they were given a second chance, since they did great in "Priceless Portrait."
* And basically, Mush Pot Hat was the best episode on this filming day. The rest were okay to bad.

Like always, great rankings. :D If I start rankings, I'll probably do the first S2L2 filming day. Since I've seen all the episodes from that day recently, so I thought you and I might compare rankings. Up to you of course.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 08, 2012, 07:48:39 PM
Ah, the infamous "Shaking log" production day. Where the moats have terrible editing and missing fog due to the long moats. Anyways, my thoughts are as follows:

Yeah, that had to be the most painful moat I ever watched.  :shock: Except for "The Mush Pot Hat of Johnny Appleseed", the other three moats were extraordinarily long.

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Mush Pot Hat was a pretty good episode. The Green Monkeys and the Orange Iguanas were just about on par with each other. Not much to say about this episode other than it could have been a solo victory had Chris started in the Ledges. Or if Angela had picked up the pace a bit in the Pit. Not the Wall Climb like you said. *cough* ;)

Whoops, I forgot the lame Wall Climb is from the early season one episodes.  :mrred: Either way, she did waste about 15 seconds there trying to climb it. Although even if she did climb faster, it would've been an "Emiliano Zapata" type of win. Stupid Mine Shaft elevator.

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I hate the Cracked Crown episode. It all started with the REALLY long moat. This had to have been the "45 minute moat" for sure. Looks how long it takes to even get the THIRD TEAM across. The moat fog is completely gone not long after the second team (which I think was the Orange Iguanas) got across. The steps were nothing special, the temple games were pretty painful to watch too. Winter, (the female Green Monkey) was utterly pathetic in her temple game. She fell off the horse literally in seconds. That's the only reason Kerry even won her game. I don't remember the team game performance, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Green Monkeys sucked there too. And the temple run was just awful. Josh should've gone in second. Not Miss "I'm gonna walk through every room and take a wrong turn at the end of the run" Kerry. I don't watch this full episode very much. And now you know why. Plus, this was one of the overplayed ones on Nick Gas. :|

There was a 45 minute long moat? If I were the production team, I would've just called mercy and gave up. That is way too much time to fit in one round.  :o

Oh God, I remember Nick GAS pairing this with "Robert the Bruce" all of the time. I hated this episode since day one, but I hated it more after they kept showing it. And I agree with you about Kerry's temple game. I think since the game never lasted long, we never get to see if Kerry was truly good or bad. So it does inflate her score a lot bit. And the temple run was pathetic either way. Even if Josh went in second, Kerry probably would've wasted too much time by then for them to score. How can anyone be so slow? Not even Kristen from "Amelia Earhart" was that slow.  :roll:

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Impress Theodora was an average episode. Having just seen this one not long ago, this moat was also pretty heavily edited. I agree about the Green Monkeys sucking at this moat. I mean, weren't they the 4th team to finish, and the mist was just starting to disappear then? The steps were an average round, see notes below for my thoughts on it. The temple games were a pretty close match, and yes the Green Monkeys and the Orange Iguanas are best friends on this filming day. :lol: Only this time, the Green Monkeys go to the temple. Could have been a 2 pendant tie if it wasn't for the Orange Iguanas sucking at the third temple game. Neither player could even knock a soldier down before time was up. So I think your scores on them were a little too generous. But, that's just me. The temple run was alright, both players were kind of slow. Too bad the elevator kept stalling at the last second. If it weren't for that, could have been a last second grab. But, this close loss wasn't as exciting as the "Blue Pearl" episode.

Both the Orange and Green finished third and fourth respectively. But it was Joshua who sucked more in the moat than Ashley. But yeah, that was the most painful crossing to watch. I need to go back and watch the team game again, but didn't they knock 3 soldiers down for the Green Monkeys? I know Ashley and Josh at least knocked down one a piece.

As for the run, I will take "Dragon Lady" any day over this run. It was still a good attempt though. I don't think the elevator stalled, rather Joshua didn't press down all the way on it. Either way, it was their own fault they failed to reach it since they both should've moved faster.

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And finally, Stone Head. This was a pretty disappointing episode. The intro is heavily edited because of yet another long moat crossing. Though this moat wasn't nearly as bad as "Cracked Crown's" moat. Since the fog didn't start disappearing until after the third team had crossed. The Blue Barracudas owned it in the temple games, the Silver Snakes were most certainly no match for them. Still a good competition despite the sweep. The temple run sucked. Heather was slow and got lost so easily and what little time she was in the temple for. Tony was pathetic. While 4 snakes in Medusa's head is a bit much, he spent over a minute figuring it out. And don't get me started on how poorly he smashed those pots. After time was called, you can tell Heather looked SO PISSED that they lost. And Tony looked equally as pissed as well.

I hate when teams sweep the temple games and put on a crappy temple run performance. This is not the first time it happened, but this is the first run that comes to mind. Seriously, Whitney had to put four snakes in Medusa's head also, but it took her half the time Tony spent in that room. And its not because it was the alignment of the snakes, it was because he kept getting frustrated and jabbing the snakes into the head. Had he slowed down a little bit, he could've had spent less time. Not that it mattered, because Heather was slow herself and she only covered four rooms in about a minute.

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Other notes I have:
* The Mush Pot Hat moat is the only episode where the players don't struggle immensely at the moat. That's seriously the shortest moat to feature "the shaky log." Correct me if I'm wrong though.
* And yes, we see the Silver Snakes from the "Priceless Portrait" episode here. But instead of losing the moat, they lost at the steps, after not getting any questions right. I wonder how they were still let on the show, since these guys didn't actually lose at the moat? Oh well, I'm glad they were given a second chance, since they did great in "Priceless Portrait."
* And basically, Mush Pot Hat was the best episode on this filming day. The rest were okay to bad.

Kristen and Jim were a beast in the "Empress Theodora" moat. It would've been better to see them at the temple instead of the Green Monkeys. But then again, their "Polynesian Girl" appearance was more exciting so I am glad they came back and went to the temple in that episode.  :mrsilver:

And if I would've ranked the episodes for this day, it would be:

"Johnny Appleseed"
"Empress Theodora"
"Evil King"
"Spanish King"
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Like always, great rankings. :D If I start rankings, I'll probably do the first S2L2 filming day. Since I've seen all the episodes from that day recently, so I thought you and I might compare rankings. Up to you of course.

So that means you are going to do the "Dr. Livingstone" production day? That should be much better than the one I just did. Although I am not really a fan "The Lost Love Letter of Captain John Smith" or "The Walking Stick of Harriet Tubman".
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 08, 2012, 08:21:21 PM
Yeah, there was a 45 minute moat according to that Kirk Fogg radio interview. And he said it was the "shaky log" moat. I always thought it was the "Cracked Crown" moat, since the fog disappeared so early. And yeah, I would have given up and let the 4th/furthest along team slide if I were a spotter. It may not be the most fair thing to do, but still.... 45 minutes?!?! In a way though, I don't really blame the kids for struggling that much in the moat. That looked like a pretty hard moat to cross. If I had to endure a moat like that, I probably wouldn't make it across either. Also, I think Blue Pearl was paired up with Cracked Crown during the Nick Gas days. I believe Golden Spider Web was always paired up with the Battle Flag episode. But, all those episodes were the ones played constantly, so I can understand your confusion.

And yeah, I remember Jim and Kristen doing great in that moat. But had they made it to the temple in the Imperial Robe episode, we wouldn't have seen them in action in the Priceless Portrait run. Also, your rankings of the four above episodes is probably the same way I'd rank them too.

As far as rankings go, yeah I meant the "Bone Necklace" and "Dr. Livingstone" filming day. I still might hold off on it though. Are those the rankings you're gonna do next?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Silver Monkey on May 08, 2012, 08:22:16 PM
I always thought the 45 minute moat was Stone Head's since part of the intro was cut out.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 08, 2012, 08:28:01 PM
I actually wanted to do one of the season one layouts next just to see how my rankings compare to THK. I might wanna do S1L3 or S1L7 next since those were the better episodes of season one.

But wow, 45 minutes for a moat is ridiculous. And on top of that, they filmed all the moats together at once according to the player interviews. So that must've meant they spent a long time on the moats that day. Whether it was "The Stone Head of the Evil King" or "The Cracked Crown of the Spanish King", all those moats were long and I could see them taking 2+ hours that day. Must've sucked for the audience.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 08, 2012, 08:45:24 PM
I always thought the 45 minute moat was Stone Head's since part of the intro was cut out.
But in that one, the fog didn't disappear nearly as soon as Cracked Crown's did. The fog in Stone Head's moat only disappeared after the 3rd team gonged in. I'm sure that moat did indeed take a while though. As far as the cut intro goes, it was probably just some bad editing.

Either way, what a horrible day for moat crossings. That's like, all the moats put together taking 1-2 hours total. I would have hated to be an audience member that day.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on May 25, 2012, 06:22:23 PM
Since it has been a while since we last saw someone rank something in this topic, I'm going to go the extra mile and rank all of the Purple Parrot teams that made it to the temple! :mrpurple:

I'll rank each Purple Parrot player in all of the rounds to determine which player was the best and which team was the best. Same goes for the worst player and team. Gotta determine which team and player represented the PPs the best and which PP player and team was the biggest disgrace to the team and all PP fans everywhere. :roll:

I'll start off with season 1 and work my way up. I won't rank all 11 PP temple appearances tonight though. I'll probably stop somewhere in the middle of season 2.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on May 25, 2012, 07:28:27 PM
The Oracle Bowl of Delphi

Shane
Moat: 9
SoK: 8.5
Individual Temple Game: 9.5
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 8.5
Average: 8.5

Jackie
Moat: 9
SoK: N/A
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6.5
Temple Run: 3.5
Average: 6.5 (wait, there's no way this can be right :o )

Overall Team Average: 7.5

That team average is saying a lot considering Jackie's piss-poor temple performance. :shock:

Really, this Purple Parrot team wasn't that bad. It was the temple run where things went wrong. I had to dock points from Shane for trying the direct path. It bit him in the ass hard. Jackie just wasn't that good in the temple. She was fairly good in all the other rounds (I excluded the Steps because just like Shane from Very Tall Turban, she didn't even try, so I can't judge her there). Overall, not a bad Purple Parrot team.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on May 25, 2012, 08:18:24 PM
King Tut’s Cobra Staff

Eusinia
Moat: 8
SoK: 7.5
Ind. Temple Game: 9
Team Temple Game: 9
Temple Run: 6
Average: 7.9

David
Moat: N/A
SoK: 7.5
Ind. Temple Game: 3.5
Team Temple Game: 9
Temple Run: 7
Average: 6.75

Overall Team Average: 7.325

Wow, the Oracle Bowl team actually beat this PP team. That's because of David's individual temple game. David should not have lost that game. He didn't look good in it, so he got a low score for that game. Not to mention, he lost to a girl in this one. Also, Eusinia beat the Blue Barracuda boy in her temple game! Talk about impressive. :shock:

The temple run was fairly good as far as losses go. Eusinia was fast, but not so wise. However, because of her speed and progress made in a short span, I gave her a 6. David gets a 7 for at least showing more common sense than Eusinia and getting to the Cobra Staff. Good effort by this PP team.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 25, 2012, 10:38:15 PM
I sort of disagree with adding/deducting point based on "physical strength." I mean, sure Eusinia was great in her game and David wasn't, I really don't think that's fair at all. The Parrots did great in the team game, though 10 is a little to generous to me. And why didn't David get ranked in the moat? I've seen this one recently, but maybe I missed something or the moat was just heavily edited? For the temple run, I'd give Eusinia a 6. While she moved fast, she wasn't that bright. I'd give David a 7, since he was literally the opposite of his partner. Oh well, at least they reached the artifact at the last second.

As far as Shane and Jackie's ratings go, Shane's are right on the money. He was easily the strongest player on the team. Jackie.... well, she did an okay job pre temple rounds. She definitely sucked at the temple though. And what a coincidence that I've just recently seen this episode too. Also, isn't it funny that there was a Shane and a Jamie (the female Silver Snake) in the same episode? While fast forward to Season 2, you get Shane and Jamie from the Tall Turban episode. :lol:

Overall, it will be interesting to see how all the other Parrot teams rank. It's gonna be a pretty easy job for you, considering how few times the Parrots even make it to the temple. XD
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on May 25, 2012, 11:01:22 PM
I didn't give David a ranking in the moat because all he had to do was sit in a floating ring while Eusinia pulled him across. No skill needed for that. Even John, Tia, and Kim can sit in a ring with no problem. That's why there's an N/A for David in that one.

I guess I'll be more lenient with the temple games in the Cobra Staff episode. I knew I'd get criticized for that. No +/- bull crap from now on for me.

Edit: Before I forget, I gave David and Eusinia both a 10 in the team temple game because they deserved and earned it. They owned that game! They get credit for that one. Very well coordinated and speedy at the same time. They made the Blue Barracudas in that game look like a joke. They're keeping the 10.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on May 25, 2012, 11:09:53 PM
Also, I edited the rankings for King Tut's Cobra Staff. Not just erasing the +/- garbage, I gave David a +0.5 boost for his run in the temple. With the improved rankings, this episode just barely squeaks ahead of Oracle Bowl. Overall, two average episodes. One fairly good run, one mediocre run, so I guess they even each other out.

Can't wait to tackle season 2. Some good ones, some bad ones, and some in the middle. Taking a break right now.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 25, 2012, 11:16:14 PM
I didn't give David a ranking in the moat because all he had to do was sit in a floating ring while Eusinia pulled him across. No skill needed for that. Even John, Tia, and Kim can sit in a ring with no problem. That's why there's an N/A for David in that one.

I guess I'll be more lenient with the temple games in the Cobra Staff episode. I knew I'd get criticized for that. No +/- bull crap from now on for me.

Edit: Before I forget, I gave David and Eusinia both a 10 in the team temple game because they deserved and earned it. They owned that game! They get credit for that one. Very well coordinated and speedy at the same time. They made the Blue Barracudas in that game look like a joke. They're keeping the 10.
Oh yeah, I remember now. Kind of an odd moat making all the teams do that. But, since it was the first of its filming day, they probably didn't do that again for the other moats. And yeah, good call discontinuing the +/- aspect, unless it's a tiebreaker question, it's not necessary.

And I would have given David and Eusinia an 8 or a 9 for the team game. They did well for sure, but the Blue Barracudas barely tried in that game. That's the only reason their performance looked that great. But fine, these are your rankings after all. I'm not saying you HAD to deduct points from them. I'm not implying it was a huge mistake giving them a 10. Oh well, on to the next rankings whenever you get the chance.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on May 25, 2012, 11:21:46 PM
You know what? I'm going to ask the magic 8 ball whether or not I should reduce the scores for David and Eusinia in the team temple game. If it's a yes, I'll reduce it. If no, I'm keeping it. Here we go:

Magic 8 ball, should I reduce the score of 10 for both David and Eusinia in their team temple game for the episode King Tut's Cobra Staff?

Magic 8 ball says: "Without a doubt."

Okay, fine. I'll do it. It won't be a big reduction though.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 26, 2012, 12:34:31 AM
Comparing your rankings to THK's for "Oracle Bowl", it looks like both Jackie and Shane had almost a 2.0 average increase in their overall base ranking in your rankings for them. I haven't watched that episode in a while, but I feel that Jackie is a little too high in certain categories. For the temple run at least, I would give her a 2 or 2.5. She had about two minutes to herself in the temple, yet she moved insanely slow and made pitiful progress given the time she had in the temple. Shane's ranking looks good though and I agree with your ranking more than I do with THK. That team was pretty decent pre-temple rounds and they even won the temple games 2-0.5. I need to watch that episode again to evaluate their performance overall.

As for "King Tut's Coba Staff", those rankings look good too. I think THK rankings for that episode got deleted in the database crash. As for the Purple Parrots, I do remembering them being pretty dominant pre-temple rounds. Eusinia was definitely strong and competitive in her temple games and David was kind of weaker. In the temple run itself, her only problem was that she was running around cluelessly in the temple. Had she not wasted all that time in the central shaft, then they could've gotten the Cobra Staff out of the temple. David could've picked up the pace though, but he was smarter than Eusinia though. Overall, an overlooked loss and one of the better episodes of season one.

I think I want to go back and rank some of the season one episodes. Looking at THK's rankings for some episodes, i feel that he was kind of harsh in certain areas of the rankings. For example, I don't see how Jennifer from "Map to the Lost Gold Mine" got a "6" in the temple, while Gabby from "Elizabeth I's Golden Ship" got the same number in the temple. Jennifer may have not been Gator fast, but I don't see how she was clueless at all like THK states in his rankings for her. And she moved pretty fast to me - just look at how fast she bolts into the Pit! And even pre-temple rounds, Jennifer was probably one of the top 10 girls on the entire show. Her and Damian were great in that whole episode.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 26, 2012, 12:53:53 AM
Yeah, that's what I disliked about those rankings. No disrespect to THK, but he was way, way too harsh on some of these contestants. I mean, I would never give someone a 1 on the steps, just because they didn't ring in. Unless of course they literally just stood there looking uninterested, or they rang in wrong too many times. And yeah, a 6 for Jennifer from John Sutter was way too harsh. I would have given her at least an 8. She was a great player and she's one of my all time favorite contestants ever. The hate she gets just because "she wasn't as fast as Gator" or "the layout was way too easy" is undeserved. But, I probably shouldn't complain too much. I mean, I liked some of his rankings. I guess what I'm trying to say is I agree with PP319's rankings much more than I do THK. And yes, the first "King Tut" rankings were deleted in that database crash.

Either way, if you one of you do rankings next, I'd be interested to see them. Especially if it's some of the Season 1 episodes.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on May 26, 2012, 12:58:05 AM
I know I'm a little harsh on Jennifer too, but if I were to rank her temple performance, I'd probably give her a 7.5 or maybe a little higher. She basically had the entire temple to herself with Damian getting taken out in the Throne Room, just three rooms in. She was definitely fast for sure, but she made a couple of mistakes. I'll have to rewatch the run though.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 26, 2012, 01:08:05 AM
I understand that a lot of the season one contestants weren't on par with later season contestants, but I wouldn't be as harsh on them at the same time since they were in an unfair situation compared to season two and three contestants. Take Lea from "The Star of Sultan Saladin" for example. Her temple performance  may have not been as amazing as some solo teams later in the season, but I am not going to deduct her for the direct path since she didn't know any better. Besides, she moved fairly fast and I don't remember her being clueless. I would've given her a 7 or 7.5.

I am also confused on the Robbie and Steve from "The Keys to the Alhambra" ranking. Steve gets a "10" in the temple because his path was flawless and he was fast, but Robbie was equally as fast and also took the direct path, yet he gets an "8"?  I mean sure it was Robbie's fault in a way for this run ending in triple capture, but he didn't know any better.

I like THK's rankings and I do agree with a lot of episodes. But when you are comparing the rankings of one team to another team, they seem rather inconsistent. Like how the "Golden Ship" kids got higher temple rankings than some of the winning teams. And how Bobby got a high score in the temple, yet he only had to travel through four rooms and wouldn't have probably won had he took the longer way in the temple.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 26, 2012, 01:14:56 AM
I know I'm a little harsh on Jennifer too, but if I were to rank her temple performance, I'd probably give her a 7.5 or maybe a little higher. She basically had the entire temple to herself with Damian getting taken out in the Throne Room, just three rooms in. She was definitely fast for sure, but she made a couple of mistakes. I'll have to rewatch the run though.

I would probaby give her a 7.5 too. I will admit that she got lost in a couple of rooms like the Throne Room and completed the Torch Room objective for no reason. But then again, Ty completed the Viper's Nest objective when he didn't have to, and no one really brings that up about him. She also kind of struggled with the monkey, but so did Joel and Shane. Overall, she did a solid job in the temple with a lengthy layout, and I would not short-change her for it just because she didn't face a "Pirate Captain" or "Apanuugpak" layout.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 26, 2012, 01:22:12 AM
Yeah, I disagreed about Bobby's rankings as well. Just because "he was fast" and "looked like he knew what he was doing," doesn't make him an amazing, beast player. I know the production error wasn't his fault, but I'm not gonna give him special treatment just because he got lucky. And I thought the "Golden Ship" rankings were a little too generous. I would have given both Joe and Gabby a 5. They weren't bad players per se, they were just too slow and had terrible luck. I can sort of see where he was coming from when it came to Robbie and Steve. I mean, Robbie's artifact was closer to the temple, but he took the direct path. Where as Steve's artifact was much further in the temple, where the wall didn't break down anyways.

Lea's ranking was too harsh as well, she did great despite minor hesitations in her run. On the other hand, I'm curious to see what Steve would have done had he gone in first instead. Also, I'm curious to see how anyone would rank the temple games from Mata Hari. I remember before the database crash, that episode WAS ranked, and the female Blue Barracuda did a terrible job. Worse than Evan, Jon, and Tia even. But, to each their own I guess.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 26, 2012, 01:33:39 AM
Yeah, I disagreed about Bobby's rankings as well. Just because "he was fast" and "looked like he knew what he was doing," doesn't make him an amazing, beast player. I know the production error wasn't his fault, but I'm not gonna give him special treatment just because he got lucky. And I thought the "Golden Ship" rankings were a little too generous. I would have given both Joe and Gabby a 5. They weren't bad players per se, they were just too slow and had terrible luck. I can sort of see where he was coming from when it came to Robbie and Steve. I mean, Robbie's artifact was closer to the temple, but he took the direct path. Where as Steve's artifact was much further in the temple, where the wall didn't break down anyways.

Yeah, a "5" seems more reasonable for both of the "Golden Ship" kids. They did ran into bad luck after all and neither of them were able to show their talents. But boy they really needed to pick up that pace.  I see what you are getting at with the Steve and Robbie comparison also. Now that you put that in perspective, I agree with his rankings more now. I am pretty sure the path that Steve took was the path that the team was suppose to take in that run. As for Robbie's run, we all know that if he went up into the Observatory, than this would've een a solo win. And if he did that, we might've had another 1:00+ victory?
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Lea's ranking was too harsh as well, she did great despite minor hesitations in her run. On the other hand, I'm curious to see what Steve would have done had he gone in first instead. Also, I'm curious to see how anyone would rank the temple games from Mata Hari. I remember before the database crash, that episode WAS ranked, and the female Blue Barracuda did a terrible job. Worse than Evan, Jon, and Tia even. But, to each their own I guess.

Oh God, I hated the "Mata Hari" temple games. They had to be the worst officiated temple games on the entire show. In fact, they had to be the worst set of temple games on the show. I mean two of the temple games were decided by the further along rule, in which the Silver Snake girl was not further along! The Blue Barracudas should've gone to the temple. But then again, I don't think any team would've won in that ridiculous layout .

Overall, I don't want to say that THK's are bad. I hate to criticize when I am no better. In fact, I think that most of them are great and none of us are perfect. I am sure my rankins are exaggerated in some areas too. I try to be consistent when ranking the contestants though. For example, even though Dana from "Frederick Douglass" had little time in the temple, I still gave her a low ranking because when you compared her to Katie from "The Mystical Spellbook of the Imperial Wizard" in almost the same situation, Katie did much better and made it further.

And also, this was THK's idea in the first place, so I just want to give him credit for that even though I might've said it before. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 26, 2012, 02:39:10 AM
Plus, we don't want to get too carried away with discussion about who's rankings were good or bad. We want to leave plenty of room for anyone to do their own rankings. We can still discuss other peoples rankings, as long as the conversation doesn't drag.

Anyways, the only other thing I have to say is yes, the Mata Hari games were terrible. Kirk had no idea what he was doing. He took the "furthest along" rule WAY too far, causing the Silver Snakes to win the temple games undeservedly. Though I'm not sure how much better the Blue Barracudas would have done in the temple. I mean, did you SEE how pathetic that female Blue Barracuda was in her third temple game? Imagine what she would have been like in the temple. :shock:

And btw TRJ, you got the pendant score for Delphi wrong. The Purple Parrots beat the Silver Snakes 2-1 pendant, NOT the 2-0.5 you stated. Just thought I'd point that out. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on May 26, 2012, 03:53:16 AM
I really need to get on with my rankings. Any requests?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 26, 2012, 01:00:31 PM
Plus, we don't want to get too carried away with discussion about who's rankings were good or bad. We want to leave plenty of room for anyone to do their own rankings. We can still discuss other peoples rankings, as long as the conversation doesn't drag.

Anyways, the only other thing I have to say is yes, the Mata Hari games were terrible. Kirk had no idea what he was doing. He took the "furthest along" rule WAY too far, causing the Silver Snakes to win the temple games undeservedly. Though I'm not sure how much better the Blue Barracudas would have done in the temple. I mean, did you SEE how pathetic that female Blue Barracuda was in her third temple game? Imagine what she would have been like in the temple. :shock:

If there is anything from that episode I can't forget, it was that terrible temple game where both teams didn't look good. If my memory serves correctly, I don't think the Blue Barracuda girl was able to get pass the mouth of the Dragon Tunnel. She kept struggling to try and pull herself up, but couldn't get pass that first hill. Her partner had to literally crawl all the way towards her in order for her to get the Map. Although I don't think the Silver Snakes were much better either because they lost on of their maps. But boy was that Blue Barracuda girl pathetic. :roll:

As for the temple run, I don't think many teams would do good. This would've been a type of run where encountering all three guards would've been the only real way to win. I believe the last guard would've been in the Royal Gongs.
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And btw TRJ, you got the pendant score for Delphi wrong. The Purple Parrots beat the Silver Snakes 2-1 pendant, NOT the 2-0.5 you stated. Just thought I'd point that out. ;)

I knew Jackie won her temple game, but I was unsure if Shane won his. But it looks like the Purple Parrots tied their game in the last team game.  :mrpurple:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 26, 2012, 03:38:10 PM
I really need to get on with my rankings. Any requests?
How about the Pytheas/Dried Ear of Corn filming day? I think I remember you doing those rankings before the database crash.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 27, 2012, 01:11:32 AM
I think I am going to do the last production day of S2L3 and hope to post it by tomorrow. That consists of "Queen Nzinga", "Efoua", "The Mask of the Man in the Iron Mask", and "Two-Cornered Hat". I am most interested in reviewing "Man in the Iron Mask" and "Two-Cornered Hat" out of those episodes. Although "Efoua" will be kind of interesting too.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 27, 2012, 10:24:48 PM
THE SHRIVELED HAND OF EFOUA

Janelle
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 7.1

Bobby
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7.5
Individual Game: 5.5
Team Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 4.5
Overall: 6.4

Casey
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.0

Eric
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.38

NOTES:
Wow, this episode was the definition of an average episode. There is nothing that really stands out and both teams were close.

The temple games were close in the entire episode. Casey was doing good in his temple game, but he kind of struggled at the end and Bobby struggled as well. Even though they tied, I had to give Bobby a lower score though because he stupidly threw his hat.

The Orange Iguanas did much better in the team game though. Janelle had good aim with the catapult and Bobby did well trying to catch them. Ultimately, Orange beat Blue 2-1.

The temple run was pretty boring, but the team made it pretty far. I had to give Bobby a lower score though because he went up into the Shrine for some unknown reason instead of plowing through the wall.

Really, there is not much to say. Both teams pretty much were close in each round.

THE MASK OF THE MAN IN THE IRON MASK

Danielle
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 9
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.6

Justin
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 6.5
Overall: 7.6

Margo
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 4
Overall: 6.25

Paul
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 2
Team Game: 6
Overall: 5.5

NOTES:
This episode was much better than I expected. Prior to the temple, the Blue Barracudas were very dominant including finish first in the moat and sweeping the temple games.

Justin and Danielle absolutely DOMINATED the temple games. Both Danielle and Justin completed their games like there was nothing to it. The Green Monkeys didn't even stand a chance, although the Green Monkey boy looked bad in his game. The team temple game, Danielle had near precise aiming and Justin did a great job catching.

The temple run was kind of disappointing, but if you look at the players in the temple, their only problem was that damn Medusa's Lair detour. Danielle was pretty fast though and put two rocks in a Bucket at a time and Justin moved quite well. If Danielle didn't encounter that Medusa's Lair guard, then this would've been a solid solo win.

Overall, I have to say that Danielle and Justin are pretty underrated. Too bad the temple run brought them down though.

THE CROWN OF QUEEN NZINGA

Renee
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 3
Overall: 6.2

Benjamin
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.5

Tracy
Moat: 5.5
Steps of Knowledge: 9.5
Individual Game: 4
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.25

Robbie
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.63

NOTES:
This episode was pretty unexciting. There is nothing really to talk about as none of the players really stood out.

The Steps featured the Purple Parrot girl doing remarkebly well, while the Red Jaguars performed pretty well in the temple games.

The Red Jaguars really should've gone to the temple with two pendants, but Renee fumbled her last crown in the last ten seconds. If she got the crown in, then the team would've won the temple games 2-0.5 and didn't have to avoid that Temple Spirit.

Nothing really notable about the temple run. Benjamin moved at an average pace, but Renee is the one at fault for this run ending in triple capture. How do you miss that obvious half-pendant? Not only that, she had the freaking option of plowing through the wall. Even if it was locked, the option was still there. One of the worst runs of season two.

Overall, this was the weakest episode of the entire production day.


THE TWO-CORNERED HAT OF NAPOLEON

Brian
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 8.5
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7.4

Carly
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 8.5
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7.2

Rebecca
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6.5
Overall: 6.25

Ryan
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 5.5
Team Game: 6.5
Overall: 7.0

NOTES:
Of course, we save the best episode for last. The teams in this episode were very competitive and I enjoyed this episode the most.

The Red Jaguars are kind of lucky to not lose in the Steps. They barely made it past the Green Monkeys and Silver Snakes, who answered a few incorrectly. Carly even answered one incorrectly, but they still made it.

How did Brian tie his temple game? He was doing so well until getting that third crown. The Orange Iguana girl was slow in that temple game, but she managed to tie it in the last second. Carly should've also tied her temple game, but she struggled to climb the wall. The Orange Iguanas barely won within the last few seconds. The Red Jaguars did very well in their team game though, and win with about 20 seconds left on the clock.

The temple run was the best part of this episode. Even though Carly took the long way, I still gave her a good score because she was fast and still grabbed the Two-Cornered Hat after taking a long route. That was pretty impressive, considering the team entered nine rooms to reach it and this includes encountering all three guards.

Overall, this was a solid and very competitive episode.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 28, 2012, 03:05:42 AM
Well, the last S2L3 day.... not a very remarkable filming day besides Napoleon. Either way, here are my thoughts on the rankings:

Efoua was just plain average at best. The only remarkable thing I can think of are the close competition in the temple games and the rare Blue vs. Orange match up. Which might I add is the last of only a mere 4 episodes to feature that color combination. But back to the episode, the Blue Barracudas and the Orange Iguanas were neck and neck all episode. By double sweeping the steps of knowledge and tying the first 2 temple games. But in the end, Orange won fair and square. The temple run was boring, that layout was hard. Though the shrine/shaft door was open, meaning Bobby should have taken that shortcut. It certainly would saved some time, and maybe he would have grabbed the hand at the last second. But, who knows....

Iron Mask was an average episode. And what a coincidence that I've just seen this one recently. The Blue Barracudas were a VERY strong team pre temple rounds. And they absolutely destroyed the Green Monkeys in the temple games, who pretty much had no chance. Though I personally thought both players were pretty sucky, especially the Green Monkey boy. Man, was he horrid in his temple game. He kept dropping the masks in the ceiling game, and never even scored at all. For the temple run, Danielle definitely would have won it if it wasn't for the Medusa's Lair dead end. Justin was pretty fast though, you gotta love his head first dive out of the Dark Forest. Imagine if the wall didn't break down though. :lol:

Queen Nzinga was just plain boring. Nothing much to say about this run except Renee should have been able to spot that obvious half pendant. I mean come on now, Claude, Kerry, and even Aqila found their half pendants. Why couldn't she? Though I'm not sure if the wall would have broken down. Since that has been theorized here in the past. Ugh, this was a horrible temple run. I was rooting for the Purple Parrots in the temple games. :(

And finally Napoleon, the breath of fresh air on this filming day. It was a great episode, and just about every round was close. Not much else to say about this run except if Carly had opened the shrine/shaft door properly (she didn't press the button hard enough), they would have won for sure.

Man, now that I think about it, Season 2 had quite the streak of losses too. I mean, between "Tall Turban" and "Snakeskin Boots," none of the other teams won. Though some of the teams (like the aforementioned Napoleon) actually reached the artifact. I guess mostly losses was a good way to balance things out since there had been 7 wins within the first four filming days of Season 2. Good stuff like always, which filming day do you think you'll do next?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 28, 2012, 11:52:01 PM
Well, the last S2L3 day.... not a very remarkable filming day besides Napoleon. Either way, here are my thoughts on the rankings:

Efoua was just plain average at best. The only remarkable thing I can think of are the close competition in the temple games and the rare Blue vs. Orange match up. Which might I add is the last of only a mere 4 episodes to feature that color combination. But back to the episode, the Blue Barracudas and the Orange Iguanas were neck and neck all episode. By double sweeping the steps of knowledge and tying the first 2 temple games. But in the end, Orange won fair and square. The temple run was boring, that layout was hard. Though the shrine/shaft door was open, meaning Bobby should have taken that shortcut. It certainly would saved some time, and maybe he would have grabbed the hand at the last second. But, who knows....

This had to be the most average episode I have ever seen. There was nothing that even sticks out about this episode at all. And as hard as the temple run layout may have been, they were too slow to begin with, so I don't think they would have even touched the Shriveled Hand in the first place.
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Iron Mask was an average episode. And what a coincidence that I've just seen this one recently. The Blue Barracudas were a VERY strong team pre temple rounds. And they absolutely destroyed the Green Monkeys in the temple games, who pretty much had no chance. Though I personally thought both players were pretty sucky, especially the Green Monkey boy. Man, was he horrid in his temple game. He kept dropping the masks in the ceiling game, and never even scored at all. For the temple run, Danielle definitely would have won it if it wasn't for the Medusa's Lair dead end. Justin was pretty fast though, you gotta love his head first dive out of the Dark Forest. Imagine if the wall didn't break down though. :lol:

The Green Monkeys were pretty mediocre in this episode. But the Blue Barracudas looked phenomenal though, and both Danielle and Justin dominated their temple games. I forgot how strong this team was prior to the temple. And the temple run would've been a win had Danielle gone into Medusa's Lair. Even after all the time she wasted there, the team still managed to finish one room away. They were stronger than the "Ahmed Baba" team IMO.
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Queen Nzinga was just plain boring. Nothing much to say about this run except Renee should have been able to spot that obvious half pendant. I mean come on now, Claude, Kerry, and even Aqila found their half pendants. Why couldn't she? Though I'm not sure if the wall would have broken down. Since that has been theorized here in the past. Ugh, this was a horrible temple run. I was rooting for the Purple Parrots in the temple games. :(

I don't really think the wall would've broken down either, as it would've made that temple spirit encounter pointless. Besides, that layout would've been to easy had they been able to enter the Mine Shaft. Either way, its Renee's fault that it ended this way and no excuse for it to end in triple capture. I don't have sympathy for this team either.
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And finally Napoleon, the breath of fresh air on this filming day. It was a great episode, and just about every round was close. Not much else to say about this run except if Carly had opened the shrine/shaft door properly (she didn't press the button hard enough), they would have won for sure.

Man, now that I think about it, Season 2 had quite the streak of losses too. I mean, between "Tall Turban" and "Snakeskin Boots," none of the other teams won. Though some of the teams (like the aforementioned Napoleon) actually reached the artifact. I guess mostly losses was a good way to balance things out since there had been 7 wins within the first four filming days of Season 2. Good stuff like always, which filming day do you think you'll do next?

There were a bunch of average and mediocre runs between "Ahmed Baba" and "Billy the Kid". A few of them could've been victories though had the contestants not made some stupid mistakes. I think I am going to do a season one production day next. I am thinking about doing the S1L2 episodes, mostly for "Map to the Lost Gold Mine". I am not looking forward to "Cricket Cage" at all. And I sure know that I am not going to give John a "3" in the temple either.  :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 29, 2012, 02:44:22 AM
Also, one more thing I forgot to mention. Since when was Renee's individual game supposed to be declared a tie? I mean, if she fumbled her crown, and it didn't make it in the basket, then she lost fair and square. As for the temple spirit, she could have avoided it, just like Joel and Justin did. And if that had happened, we could have had another "Butch Cassidy" esque win on our hands. Otherwise, I don't think the wall would have broken down. But there was no excuse NOT to find that half pendant.

As far as your next rankings go, if you're really gonna do S1L2, good luck. Some of the worst episodes and/or runs come from that filming day. But at least you'll have John Sutter to look forward to. If you change your mind, you can do the S1L3 or S1L7 filming day. The ones you originally thought of doing. Of course, it's up to you.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 29, 2012, 12:16:15 PM
Also, one more thing I forgot to mention. Since when was Renee's individual game supposed to be declared a tie? I mean, if she fumbled her crown, and it didn't make it in the basket, then she lost fair and square. As for the temple spirit, she could have avoided it, just like Joel and Justin did. And if that had happened, we could have had another "Butch Cassidy" esque win on our hands. Otherwise, I don't think the wall would have broken down. But there was no excuse NOT to find that half pendant.

As far as your next rankings go, if you're really gonna do S1L2, good luck. Some of the worst episodes and/or runs come from that filming day. But at least you'll have John Sutter to look forward to. If you change your mind, you can do the S1L3 or S1L7 filming day. The ones you originally thought of doing. Of course, it's up to you.

Oh, I meant that if Renee got that last crown into the basket, then her temple game would've been a tie. And the Red Jaguars would've had one pendant going into the final temple game. But instead she rushed to get that last crown down, and lost because of it. The Purple Parrot boy definitely won that game fair and square. Not that it mattered, because Renee had no excuse for missing that half-pendant because it was plain as day. In fact, the only season two team that has an excuse for passing the half-pendant is "The Missing Eye of David" team. The temple layout was easy for the Red Jaguars in "Queen Nzinga", and it was their fault that it ended that way.

And yeah, I think I will be able to make it through S1L2. Honestly, "Elizabeth I's Golden Ship" is not a bad episode altogether. The temple games were decent and I like the wig game where the contestants were looking for that last wig when it wasn't there.  :mrred:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Silver Monkey on May 29, 2012, 04:32:38 PM
In fact, the only season two team that has an excuse for passing the half-pendant is "The Missing Eye of David" team.

I would argue that the Walking Stick team would have an excuse, too, since their half-pendant was nowhere in sight. Not to mention that Ryann wouldn't have even needed it had she followed Chris' path.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 30, 2012, 12:51:03 AM
In fact, the only season two team that has an excuse for passing the half-pendant is "The Missing Eye of David" team.

I would argue that the Walking Stick team would have an excuse, too, since their half-pendant was nowhere in sight. Not to mention that Ryann wouldn't have even needed it had she followed Chris' path.

Yeah, I never found the half-pendant in that run either. It had to be located somewhere before the Shrine though. Some people have guessed the Swamp, but we never get a good angle of the actuators in the Swamp. But I hav e more sympathy for the "Missing Eye" kids as all three guards were unavoidable.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 06, 2012, 01:34:46 PM
Well, after struggling with giving rankings to the Purple Parrots from season 1, it's time to tackle season 2. First up is The Bone Necklace of the Blackfeet Chief. I'll get to it.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 06, 2012, 03:04:58 PM
Just finished Bone Necklace and Lost Lion Tail. Here are my rankings for each:

The Bone Necklace of the Blackfeet Chief

Leah
Moat: 6.5
SoK: N/A (Brandon did all the work, so I can’t really judge Leah here)
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 5.75
Average: 7.06

Brandon
Moat: 7
SoK: 9
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 7.25
Average: 7.85

Overall Team Average: 7.46

Notes
Not a bad episode. The Purple Parrots kind of struggled in the moat, getting 4th place, but they hung in there and made it. I had to dock Leah .5 points in the moat for almost falling into the water at the end. Brandon was the star here. Leah was okay, but nothing special. The temple run should've been a win. Leah moved too slow, but she didn't make any critical mistakes. Her only real mistake was trying to enter the King's Storeroom from the Swamp. She should've known that wasn't going to work. Overall, not a bad episode and the team averaged right around both the Oracle Bowl and the Cobra Staff team's.


The Lost Lion Tail of Little John

Marie
Moat: 7
SoK: 8
Individual Temple Game: 8.5
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Average: 7.3

Claude
Moat: 7
SoK: 5 (didn’t answer a question, but tried to ring in once or twice, so there’s 5 points for trying)
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 3
Average: 5.6

Overall Team Average: 6.45

Notes
Oh boy, where do I start? Okay, the moat wasn't that bad. The Purple Parrots in this episode kind of struggled with this one too, but they hung on and made it. Marie seemed hesitant in ringing in at the SoK, but she knew the answers. Claude tried to ring in twice I think, but never answered. That's where the 5 points come from, for trying. Claude started off fast in his temple game, but the Silver Snake boy was quicker. Marie however owned her temple game. Very fast and efficient. The team game was interesting and heartbreaking. The Silver Snakes were leading this one until the very end when they dropped their sign and had to get it again. This opened the door for the Purple Parrots. They did fine in this one as well, but the Silver Snakes should've made it to the temple.

Now for the temple. This run was a disaster, all thanks to one player. Marie was decent in the temple. She knew what she was doing and seemed to be faster than Leah, thus the reason why I gave Marie a .25 point advantage over Leah. Hope for victory was there once she was taken out in the Swamp, but then disaster by the name of Claude came in. This boy was stupid in the temple! He made too many mistakes, hesitated too much, moved too slowly, and worst of all, he didn't even get out of the bottom of the temple! Someone obviously didn't take notes from Joel the day after his temple run. The bottom was easy. In Claude's position, there is no excuse not to get out of the bottom floor. Piss poor player. He's the reason why I wish the Silver Snakes made it to the temple over this team. Overall, this episode was kind of below average for me. Nothing special about it.

I'll do two more runs later. Those would be Sacred Ring and Leopard-Skin Cloak.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 06, 2012, 04:40:12 PM
I knew Brandon was a pretty strong player, Leah was sort of average at best. Plus, she moved way too slow in the temple. Brandon was pretty fast, but not by much. I think this team would have won if they weren't so slow. And they so got lucky in the moat too. The Silver Snakes fell in at the last second, giving the Purple Parrots the opening they needed. I wonder where we have seen that type of thing happen before. More on that below. ;) Still a good episode though, and kudos to them for beating the Red Jaguars in the temple games. Something they never did again in the other 5 episodes that featured Red vs. Purple in the temple games.

And Lost Lion Tail was a pretty pitiful episode. Marie pretty much led the team, Claude looked like he didn't even want to be there. And of course, they got REALLY lucky in the third temple game. The Silver Snakes were just about to win, until they dropped their sign. Giving the Purple Parrots yet another window of opportunity. And the temple run was just awful. Marie did okay, her only problem was in the Rock Quarry, where she kept missing the bucket. Claude was just pathetic. He was not even trying in the temple. He walked through every room, and couldn't even figure out what to do in the Dark Forest. Oh well, at least he found the half pendant, which he did need. But either way, the Silver Snakes probably would have done a better job for sure.

Good stuff though, can't wait until you get to Leopard Skin Cloak's ratings. TRJ ranked them pretty well, maybe they'll still do well for you too. Since it was PP Pwnage after all. :P
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 06, 2012, 08:28:31 PM
I feel like a 5.6 rating for Claude is being a little too generous. Does that look about right to everyone?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 06, 2012, 09:26:08 PM
For the individual game, yes. Claude was really slow in his game. He wasn't even anywhere near the finish line before the Silver Snakes won. I would have given him a 4 for that, and probably a 6 for the moat too. I didn't think he was fast there either. Otherwise, the rankings are pretty accurate.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 06, 2012, 09:34:14 PM
I never said I was great at giving rankings. I'm human. ;)

About done with Leopard-Skin Cloak. After that, I might go for Snakeskin Boots as well.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Silver Monkey on June 06, 2012, 09:40:43 PM
I never said I was great at giving rankings. I'm human. ;)

About done with Leopard-Skin Cloak. After that, I might go for Snakeskin Boots as well.

What about Sacred Ring? You said you were going to do that one and Leopard Skin Cloak next.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 06, 2012, 09:42:33 PM
I never said I was great at giving rankings. I'm human. ;)

About done with Leopard-Skin Cloak. After that, I might go for Snakeskin Boots as well.

What about Sacred Ring? You said you were going to do that one and Leopard Skin Cloak next.

I already finished ranking Sacred Ring. About finished with Leopard-Skin Cloak and after that I might tackle Snakeskin Boots. I put all of my rankings on a Word document and then I just paste them here. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 06, 2012, 10:38:08 PM
The Sacred Ring of Sultan Suleiman

Brian
Moat: 6.5
SoK: 8
Individual Temple Game: 5.5
Team Temple Game: 8.25
Temple Run: 4
Average: 6.45

Gracelyn
Moat: 6.5
SoK: 7.5
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 7.75
Temple Run: 4.5
Average: 6.85

Overall Team Average: 6.65

Notes
The overall team average might look like a decent score, but in all honesty, just like the Lost Lion Tail team average, this really wasn't that good of an episode. The Purple Parrots in this episode just seemed weak and small and it showed in the temple. For the most part, they were okay before the temple. However, I think we saw their true colors (please no Purple Parrot jokes for that comment!) once the temple run began. Brian made that critical mistake of not trying all three books in the Crypt and it cost him more than any other player who failed to pull all books. Gracelyn was slightly better, but not by much. Not finding that half pendant proved costly too. The only PP run to end in guard capture. End of story. Things can only get better from here.


The Leopard-Skin Cloak of Annie Oakley

Chandra
Moat: 8.75
SoK: 5.5
Individual Temple Game: 9.5
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 7.5
Average: 7.85

Nick
Moat: 9.25
SoK: 9
Individual Temple Game: 8.75
Team Temple Game: 7.75
Temple Run: 6.75
Average: 8.3

Overall Team Average: 8.08

Notes
Wow, what can you say? One of the best Legends teams NOT to grab their respective artifact. This team was great for the most part. In the SoK, I gave Chandra a 5.5 for at least trying to ring in once. Concerning this score, I also took into account how competitive this SoK pairing was. It could've gone either way. Both players were great in the temple games. Then came the temple run. What a heartbreaker this one was. Chandra was solid. I had to look at Shane's ranking I gave him from Very Tall Turban (I ranked him before all of these PP runs) and I had to give her the same ranking for taking the same path as Shane. Both players I felt were identical when taking the same path. Nick did a nice job tracing her steps. However, I had to dock him for pointlessly swinging on the pit rope and for putting the Storeroom key in the front railing. However, this was a great team that got stuck with a tough temple layout. Not taking shortcuts on Chandra's part didn't help either. Still, a great episode. Let's see if the next PP episode can top it.


The Snakeskin Boots of Billy the Kid

Kelly
Moat: 9
SoK: 5.5
Individual Temple Game: 9.5
Team Temple Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 6
Average: 7.5

Tony
Moat: 9
SoK: 9.5
Individual Temple Game: 8.5
Team Temple Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 8
Average: 8.5

Overall Team Average: 8

Notes
The Purple Parrots finally get that much deserved temple win. Just like Leopard-Skin Cloak and Chandra, I had to give Kelly a 5.5 in the SoK for trying once. Not to mention, Tony seemed to know it all in a sweep of the steps. Both players rocked the moat and temple games, especially Kelly in her temple game. That spitting horse was no match for her. Now for the temple run. I know I've criticized Kelly heavily for being clueless in her short stay, but after watching this run again, I have to be fair to her. Honestly, I don't think she was that bad. I mean, there are other players who got taken out three rooms into a run at around the same time she did (Olivia from Battle Flag and Maggie from Mummified Hand to name a few). Besides, THK gave Gabby (Golden Ship) a 6 and I think she was worse than Kelly. Still, I'm sticking with me giving Kelly a 6 for the temple. Tony on the other hand was fast and seemed more knowledgeable about the temple than Kelly. His exit plan wasn't that good, but at least he made it out in time. Jason (Broken Wing) can't say that.

Wow, Leopard-Skin Cloak got a slightly better ranking than Snakeskin Boots, just slightly. To be honest, I think the Leopard-Skin Cloak kids and the Snakeskin Boots kids were identical. Both of these two were solid episodes all around. Better than Sacred Ring, that's for sure. :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 07, 2012, 12:59:56 AM
I know I did a rankings for "The Bone Necklace of the Blackfeet Chief" during the database crash, but I don't have them saved anymore. Anyways, I think your rankings were close to mine. I remember clearly the Purple Parrots barely scrapping by the moat. However, they were much more competitive in later rounds. The temple games were also very close between both the Red Jaguars and Purple Parrots. But both Leah and Brandon still won two pendants at the end. As for the temple run, I think your scores are pretty reasonable. Leah wasn't a bad contestant, she was just too slow. I might've decreased Brandon's score to at least a "7" in the temple. He was kind of sluggish also and his exit plan was a little weird. Overall, they look similar to mine.

And "The Lost Lion Tail of Little John" is easily the worst Purple Parrot episode, worser than "Oracle Bowl" and "Sultan Suleiman".  That team didn't even deserve to go to the temple. I don't remember the exact details on the temple games, but a "7" for both players seems a little too kind IMO. Before the Silver Snakes dropped their sign, I recall that the Purple Parrots were lagging behind. But then the Silver Snakes dropped their sign, allowing the Purple Parrots an opportunity to reach the top easily. And for the temple run, I probably would've gave Marie a "5" in the temple. I mean she was kind of slow and missed a couple of rocks in the Rock Quarry. She was lucky to reveal the first light in the Laser Light Room. Claude was terrible though and it looked like he didn't have a single clue on what to do in the temple. I would've given him a "2.5", but I guess finding the half-pendant is the only redeeming thing about him. Second worst boy after John from "Cricket Cage".

I actually posted rankings for "Annie Oakley" and "Billy the Kid" though. I will come back later and compare my rankings wth PP319.  :mrpurple:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 07, 2012, 02:37:41 AM
Well, the Sacred Ring kids were pretty weak, but they did decently during the temple games. I especially liked the temple game sequence where each story led right into the next game. If that makes any sense. While they were an IMMENSE improvement over the Lost Lion Tail kids, they still kind of sucked. The temple run is pretty terrible, and the path they took was pretty strange. But still, I blame Brian 100% for this loss. Not just for his detour into the Dark Forest, but for not signaling back the pendant to Gracelyn. Not that she was too much better though, since she moved much too slowly. If it's any consolation, this is the only triple capture by the Purple Parrots. At least they didn't have to endure anymore of those type of scenarios.

And enough has been said about Leopard Skin Cloak and Snakeskin Boots. PP Pwnage! And I think 6 is a decent score for Kelly for the temple run. She moved at a decent pace, but we never saw much of her since she only lasted 3 rooms. Tony was great too, even if he didn't have a stellar exit plan. The only difference between him and Jason is that Tony only faltered a bit at the end. Jason sucked the whole way through. But, both Purple Parrot teams did great, and it shows in their near identical team ratings.

And yes, you did review those aforementioned teams before, TRJ. Right here. (http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=2324.msg104434#msg104434) Should be easier now comparing your rankings to the ones PP319 did. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 07, 2012, 10:34:58 AM
Well, the Sacred Ring kids were pretty weak, but they did decently during the temple games. I especially liked the temple game sequence where each story led right into the next game. If that makes any sense. While they were an IMMENSE improvement over the Lost Lion Tail kids, they still kind of sucked. The temple run is pretty terrible, and the path they took was pretty strange. But still, I blame Brian 100% for this loss. Not just for his detour into the Dark Forest, but for not signaling back the pendant to Gracelyn. Not that she was too much better though, since she moved much too slowly. If it's any consolation, this is the only triple capture by the Purple Parrots. At least they didn't have to endure anymore of those type of scenarios.

And enough has been said about Leopard Skin Cloak and Snakeskin Boots. PP Pwnage! And I think 6 is a decent score for Kelly for the temple run. She moved at a decent pace, but we never saw much of her since she only lasted 3 rooms. Tony was great too, even if he didn't have a stellar exit plan. The only difference between him and Jason is that Tony only faltered a bit at the end. Jason sucked the whole way through. But, both Purple Parrot teams did great, and it shows in their near identical team ratings.

And yes, you did review those aforementioned teams before, TRJ. Right here. (http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=2324.msg104434#msg104434) Should be easier now comparing your rankings to the ones PP319 did. ;)

Looks like the Fogg-Ups have come to PPF now. Brian got lost in the Ledges. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 07, 2012, 03:53:40 PM
Sorry, I meant the Ledges. I guess the artifact location confused me a bit. XD
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 07, 2012, 07:39:53 PM
Gonna finish season 2 tonight. Only two episodes to tackle: Golden Pepperoni and Milk Bucket. Should be fun.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 07, 2012, 09:19:24 PM
Let's end season 2! :mrpurple:

The Golden Pepperoni of Catharine de’ Medici

Chris
Moat: 8.5
SoK: 7.5
Individual Temple Game: 7.75
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 6.5
Average: 7.65

Aqila
Moat: 8.5
SoK: 7
Individual Temple Game: 7.5
Team Temple Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 5.25
Average: 7.15

Overall Team Average: 7.4

Notes
For the most part, this team was average all around. There's not much to say about them in the rounds before the temple except they were solid. The temple run was interesting to say the least. Chris didn't last long, but I felt that despite his short stay, he lasted long enough for me to know that he was a good player. He barely hesitated and didn't have brief moments of being clueless unlike Kelly. Therefore, I gave him a higher ranking. Aqila is where the run became kind of chaotic. She seemed to know what to do in the rooms, but was very hesitant in completing most of them and was kind of slow. On top of that, she passed up two important things: the half pendant (which she thankfully went back and got) and the artifact itself. Talk about being inattentive. The run itself wasn't bad, but it wasn't good either. As for the episode, I'd say it was good. The temple run is what drags it down. Let's see if the next PP episode doesn't disappoint.


The Milk Bucket of Freydis

Tarrah
Moat: 8.75
SoK: N/A (didn’t attempt to ring in, so no judging here)
Individual Temple Game: 7.75
Team Temple Game: 8.5
Temple Run: 8
Average: 8.25

Chris
Moat: 9
SoK: 9.5
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 8.5
Temple Run: N/A (his partner did a solo run)
Average: 8.75 (damn! :o )

Overall Team Average: 8.5

Notes
YES! This was truly a great episode all around. It was fun to watch and it was exciting too. Both players were superb too. I thought they did great in the moat despite being 4th. Chris was very smart, almost sweeping the SoK on his own. Both players did a fine job in the temple games. As for the temple run, I thought Tarrah did great. Sure, she might not have been Gator fast. Sure, she took a wrong turn once. Sure, she fell into the pit. However, she didn't have to be Gator fast. She's not the only winner to have taken a wrong turn at least once in a run (Jennifer from Belly Button and Jarrid from Lost Hornpipe come to mind). She's also not the only winner to take a dive in the pit. In fact, all three Purple Parrots who brought out the item fell into the pit. These three made Jason from The Broken Wing of Icarus look like a jackass. Based on strength and determination alone, I gave Tarrah an 8 for the temple. She was just great and great to watch. Tarrah's deserving of this 8.

And this run gives us the best player and best team average so far. Chris got an outstanding 8.75 average and the team got an 8.5 average, by far the best in both categories. Definitely the highlight for the PPs in season 2 if you ask me.

Season 2 was fun. It had its lowlights and highlights, but I think the highlights were overpowering. Season 3 is next and it only has two runs. I'll do this some other time.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 07, 2012, 09:45:45 PM
I knew I was forgetting something. It concerns the male Purple Parrot's temple games. Since both players are named Chris, I'll refer to Golden Pepperoni Chris as Chris1 and Milk Bucket Chris as Chris2.

In the temple game for Golden Pepperoni, both players had to climb up a pole and put four bricks into a basket at the bottom. Chris1 got all four bricks to the bottom first, but two bricks missed the basket. He got one of them in, but his opponent got his last brick in before Chris1 could. To me, I feel like Chris1 was cheated here.

Now, for the temple game Chris2 was in for The Milk Bucket of Freydis, he had to go from platform to platform and grab horns to put onto a helmet. While grabbing the horns, he also had to dodge swinging obstacles. Now this game ended in a 2-2 tie, but one of Chris2's horns fell off the helmet. However, unlike the bricks in Chris1's game, the horn that fell off in Chris2's game was counted despite coming off. Now I'm glad this was counted for obvious reasons, but I find this to be a little odd. The horn was counted, but not the bricks? Where's the consistency?

Just thought I'd bring this up.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 08, 2012, 01:03:04 AM
You know, as few times the Purple Parrots have made it to the temple, they have had some pretty dominant teams in the temple games. "Billy the Kid", "Milk Bukcket", "Annie Oakley", and "Henry Hudson" had very strong performances in the temple games. And then, the "Blackfeet Chief" and "Oracle Bowl" team also won two pendants. I wonder what Purple Parrot team will average the most after you finish the season three runs? I am going to say Tarrah and Chris will probably have the highest. The Purple Parrots were very fun to watch in season two and that was no doubt their best season, minus "Lost Lion Tail" though.  ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 08, 2012, 02:23:48 AM
Yeah, the Purple Parrots had a lot of dominant teams in the few times they went to the temple. Seriously, 6/11 of their temple appearances had the Parrots go to the temple with 2 pendants. That's pretty good, how many other teams achieved that? With the exception of "Sacred Ring," "Lost Lion Tail," and to an extent "King Tut's Cobra Staff," the Purple Parrots dominated nearly every round just to get to the temple. PP Pwnage indeed. :D

As far as the above rankings go, the Golden Pepperoni kids were a decent team, despite the huge mistake at the end of the run. Chris should have gone in second, and Aqila should have gone in first. Just so we wouldn't have to see much of her due to her being so slow. I kind of agree about Chris' temple game too. Chris probably would have won if he didn't keep dropping objects from that totem pole.

And the Milk Bucket kids were great. Aside from placing 4th in the moat, the Parrots dominated every round. And the Chris in this episode did GREAT! His 8.75 average is beyond deserved. And Tarrah was equally as great, nothing more needs to be said about her. I also agree about Chris' temple game here too. I guess the spotters just didn't have much consistency did that day.

Also, isn't it funny how there were 2 Purple Parrot Chris' on the same filming day? Where one player didn't last long in the temple, and the other didn't go in at all. While there were a lot of Chris' on the show, I still find it to be an interesting coincidence. :lol:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 09, 2012, 06:11:50 PM
I think tonight will be the night that I finish ranking the Purple Parrots that made it to the temple. I remember watching Metal Beard's full episode (I'll re-watch it again), but I've never fully seen Upside-Down Compass (only the temple run). I might be in for a treat.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 09, 2012, 07:50:55 PM
Alright, time to finish ranking the Purple Parrots! :mrpurple:

The Upside-Down Compass of Henry Hudson

Sherra
Moat: 8.5
SoK: 9.5
Individual Temple Game: 7.5
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 6.25
Average: 7.95

Derek
Moat: 8.5
SoK: N/A (no attempt to ring in)
Individual Temple Game: 8.75
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 6.5
Average: 7.94

Overall Team Average: 7.945

Notes
First time watching this entire episode and it was pretty good. The temple run leaves something to be desired, but it was still a good episode. Both players were solid in pretty much every round. Like quite a few players in the past, Derek didn't ring in or answer in the SoK, so no ranking for him there (trying to be fair). The temple run was decent. Sure, they didn't win and they made some mistakes, but it wasn't all that bad. I think the biggest problem in this run was that Sherra was kind of on the slow side. Sherra knew what she was doing, but she moved a little too slow. She also made the mistake of falling for the King's Storeroom temple guard trick after the temple guard appeared behind the Chamber of the Sacred Markers door. Derek corrected this mistake, but he also made the mistake of not entering the Chamber from the pit. He also dropped the belly of the Silver Monkey into the Dark Forest, but to be fair, he was in a rush and time expired. Still, a decent run and a pretty good episode overall. Both players were pretty much exactly identical and they almost achieved an overall ranking of 8. Now one more episode to go.


The Metal Beard of the Egyptian Queen

T.J.
Moat: 9
SoK: 9
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 7.75
Temple Run: 8.5
Average: 8.05 +.5 (got the tiebreaker) = 8.55

Randy
Moat: 9
SoK: 7
Individual Temple Game: 7.25
Team Temple Game: 8.75
Temple Run: 8
Average: 8

Overall Team Average: 8.28

Notes
What a great way to close out this ranking project. I thought this episode was better than Upside-Down Compass. Both players here were solid too, but they kind of struggled with the temple games. T.J.'s game was the one where he and his opponent had to push two big boulders into these fake forts. He didn't even knock down one and he just wasn't pushing those boulders hard enough. However, that is a tough game and I gave him a 6 for giving a good effort and not quitting. Randy was better in her game, but she also lost. Her game was the one where she was in a catapult-like mechanism. She had to grab toy animals on top of a high column and then put them into a zoo-like cage on the ground. Randy struggled to get high up into the air and kind of slowed down near the end. I was generous and gave her a 7.25 for her game. In the final game, things weren't looking good, especially at the end. The game was the one where Melted Head Jennifer faceplanted the swinging boulder. In this episode, both teams had three points with less then ten seconds remaining. Things weren't looking good, but Randy came through at the very last moment and got the win to tie up the pendant scores. Then T.J. came through and got the only Purple Parrot tiebreaker win. With that, I added 0.5 to his overall score. I worry if that's too much. Should I go less with the tiebreaker?

The temple run was great. It was the best Purple Parrot team effort in the temple. T.J. laid down a great path for Randy with plenty of time left. He was fast and smart! Randy didn't disappoint either. She followed his path very nicely en route to the Metal Beard. Then came her exit strategy. Oh man, that wasn't good at all and it almost turned into disaster. At least she made it out despite that Jason-like exit plan. I gave her Tony's temple score because I felt her stay in the temple matched Tony's stay. Still, what a great way to end the ranking process! The Purple Parrots ended their temple runs on a very high note.

Soon I will post comparisons for all of the PP episodes and see which players and which episode was the best.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 09, 2012, 08:27:54 PM
Well, we've reached the end of Purple Parrot runs. And both your above teams did pretty well too.

Upside Down Compass was an alright episode, PP Pwnage until the temple run. The only problem was that Sherra did move pretty slow. Even if she had entered the Room of the Ancient Warriors, she still would have been taken out. Derek was okay, he should have taken the Pit-chamber door though. That certainly would have saved some time. And of course we got the poorly edited "epic fail" in the shrine at the end. Not that it would have mattered, since time was up anyways. Overall, this wasn't a bad temple run at all. It's not as terrible as people make it out to be. It was just a tough layout and slow players.

And Metal Beard was a great episode. GREAT comeback by TJ and Randy in that third temple game. They literally won that game at the last seconds. And of course this is the ONLY time they win a tiebreaker. And the temple run was amazing. One of the most underrated victories ever. Even with Randy's exit plan, they did great. That's all that needs to be said about this run.

Also, it's funny how BOTH Parrot runs in Season 3 had Red-Green-Purple-Silver on the steps, Green vs. Purple in the temple games with Purple winning. Though granted, all 3 Purple Parrot victories had the same Red-Green-Purple-Silver combination at the steps. And neither featured 1.5 pendant runs. The Upside Down Compass team had 2 pendants, and The Metal Beard episode had 1 pendant. Good stuff overall, are you gonna do anymore rankings?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 09, 2012, 08:31:19 PM
I'm thinking of ranking Jennifer from Lost Gold Mine next.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 10, 2012, 01:17:08 AM
I think I might do what PP319 did and rank most of the Red Jaguar episodes. Although some of those episodes are painful to watch though and I am not really looking forward to sit through garbage like "Blackbeard's Treasure Map" or "The Missing Weather Maps of Charles Lindbergh". But I still want to do one more production day in season one and season two first.

Anyways, onto your recent rankings:

I actually did the "Henry Hudson" team a month or so ago, and they were a pretty dominant team pre-temple run. Although it seems your numbers for Sherra and Derek were sightly higher in most categories (minus the Steps) than mine. I do remember this team dominating the temple games, but I thought Sherra was a little stronger than Derek in the temple games. He kind of kept getting hit by the boulder in his game. But still, the team swept the temple games. The temple run was a little disappointing, but this team faced an unfair layout also. They were forced down into the bottom floor, than back up onto the top floor. I thought Sherra was a little too slow in the temple though. Derek moved a little faster, but he made a couple of unnecessary detours. I don't really count the monkey drop against him, because like you said, he probably dropped it to try and get e monkey together as fast as possible.

Also, I don't see how people really compare this run to the "Sacagawea" run. The Green Monkeys in that run were at fault for not reaching the Jacket. Didn't the King's Storeroom open in that run? Plus, both players were slow too and neither bothered to speed up.

And as for "Egyptian Queen", it is definitely an overlooked episode and win. I say that TJ was the best male Purple Parrot player on the show. I don't remember the details pre-temple game rounds, but I know that team did very well in the team game and they atually won the tiebreaker. And I am glad that you gave Randy a good score in the temple too. I remember somone else ranked her a gave her a "6". I don't think she was that bad in the temple. Maybe a "7" or "7.5" was more respectable. Overall, its definitely an overlooked win and all we hear about is "Bandit Queen" when Zac was the savior in that run. In this run, it was both players who made it exciting.

And good luck with Jennifer from "Map to the Lost Gold Mine". With all due respect to THK, I think both players from that episode were ranked too low. After all, TMH ranked them as the fourth best team on the show using his ranking system. And I feel some of the numbers are low to like in the temple games and Jennifer in particular in the temple. I just don't see how she was that bad to be ranked that low, especially for her to receive the same ranking as Gabby from "Elizabeth I's Golden Ship".
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 20, 2012, 10:27:24 PM
Okay, it's time to compare how everyone on the Purple Parrots did in each round. Only 11 episodes, so hopefully this won't be too bad. Like before, when it comes to the two Chris's, Golden Pepperoni Chris will go by Chris1 and Milk Bucket Chris will go by Chris2.

Starting with the boys:

Boys

Moat
1st: Nick (9.25 points)
2nd: Chris2 (9)
       Shane (9)
       T.J. (9)
       Tony (9)
6th: Chris1 (8.5)
       Derek (8.5)
8th: Brandon (7)
       Claude (7)
10th: Brian (6.5)
N/A: David (N/A) (again, he was sitting on a ring; no skill required, so no ranking here)

Taking 1st overall in the moat for the Purple Parrots is Nick from The Leopard-Skin Cloak of Annie Oakley. A lot of 9's behind him, but he ultimately was better. Overall, everyone wasn't bad here.

SoK
1st: Chris2 (9.5)
       Tony (9.5)
3rd: Brandon (9)
       Nick (9)
       T.J. (9)
6th: Shane (8.5)
7th: Brian ( 8 )
8th: Chris1 (7.5)
       David (7.5)
10th: Claude (5)
N/A: Derek (N/A) (I won't give points to anyone who didn't attempt to ring in or answer)

Milk Bucket Chris and Tony both take the #1 spot in the Steps. A lot of good players here. Claude was lazy here.

Individual Temple Game
1st: Shane (9.5)
2nd: Derek (8.75)
       Nick (8.75)
4th: Tony (8.5)
5th: Brandon ( 8 )
       Chris2 ( 8 )
7th: Chris1 (7.75)
8th: Claude (6)
       T.J. (6)
10th: Brian (5.5)
11th: David (3.5)

Shane is #1 in the individual temple games. He was very strong in his game. Everyone who got less than an 8 here lost. David in this instance lost to a girl and just looked bad in his game.

Team Temple Game
1st: David (9)
2nd: Chris2 (8.5)
3rd: Brian (8.25)
4th: Brandon ( 8 )
       Chris1 ( 8 )
       Derek ( 8 )
7th: Nick (7.75)
       T.J. (7.75)
9th: Tony (7.5)
10th: Claude (7)
        Shane (7)

Everyone did a fine job here, but David makes a big recovery and takes #1 here. He and Eusinia were very fast and very coordinated in their team game, getting that mummy wrap off in no time.

Temple Run
1st: Shane (8.5)
       T.J. (8.5)
3rd: Tony ( 8 )
4th: Brandon (7.25)
5th: David (7)
6th: Nick (6.75)
7th: Chris1 (6.5)
       Derek (6.5)
9th: Brian (4)
10th: Claude (3)
N/A: Chris2 (N/A; didn't enter)

There are two #1's for the temple run: Shane and T.J.. Shane was super fast and knew what he was doing. Had he not got taken out, then his score probably would've been higher and his team probably would've won. T.J. did a very good job too. Very fast and very skilled in the temple. If I had to do a tiebreaker, I would give this one to T.J. due to his run being a win and him completing more real objectives.

Brian and Claude were jokes. Both of them were pathetic and they just sucked in the temple. Claude was absolutely horrible while Brian was just bad.

Overall Player Average
1st: Chris2 (8.75)
2nd: T.J. (8.55)
3rd: Shane (8.5)
       Tony (8.5)
5th: Nick (8.3)
6th: Derek (7.94)
7th: Brandon (7.85)
8th: Chris1 (7.65)
9th: David (6.75)
10th: Brian (6.45)
11th: Claude (5.6)

And the best male Purple Parrot player is:

Chris from The Milk Bucket of Freydis! He was great throughout the show. Too bad he didn't enter the temple, but still, what a great player.

And the worst male Purple Parrot player is:

Claude from The Lost Lion Tail of Little John. Congrats Claude! You are the biggest disgrace to the Purple Parrots. >_>

Well, that's it for the boys. I'll get to the girls some other time. This one was tiring, so I need a break.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 02, 2012, 04:59:47 PM
I am looking through some of these old rankings for some of the season one episodes, and I just don't understand how some of these contestants get a "1" in the Steps.  :?

For example, THK has Chris from "The Stone Marker of Leif Erikson" as a "1" in the Steps. Yet, after rewatching the episode, he didn't get any answer wrong of any sort. He may have not answered any of the questions, but I don't see how he should get a "1" in the steps though. I mean at least he tried to answer ring in on a couple of questions. The same for Jackie who also got a "1" in the Steps also. To me, this kind of skews the rankings for these players and it makes them look worser than they should be. I just don't understand the reasoning behind giving them a "1" at all. I mean Ashlie from "The Bonnet of Dolley Madison" got 3 wrong in the Steps, yet I still gave her a "3". So I don't see how some of these contestants got low scores.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 02, 2012, 06:27:52 PM
I completely agree with you there, TRJ. I'm sorry, but I think it's downright silly to rank someone a "1" just because they don't ring in with any questions on the Steps of Knowledge. The only time I'd rank someone a "1" like that, is if they KEPT ringing in wrong, yet somehow advanced. That thankfully didn't happen very often, not even for Ashlie or the male Silver Snake from "The Trojan Horseshoe." At worst, I'd probably give the contestant a 3 or a 5, but I'd never give someone a "1" for the Steps of Knowledge. That's just plain harsh. For all we know, it could very well have been planned that way by their partners. That one answers all the questions, and one doesn't. Nothing wrong with that at all. I've seen that happen before on many episodes, it's not THAT uncommon of a thing. Maybe the like likes of Chris (Stone Marker) and Jackie weren't the strongest players. But I just fail to understand why we should rank them worse than they should be just because they didn't speak up.

I mean, I know these are his rankings, but still. That's one thing that kind of bugged me a little. =/
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 11, 2012, 02:35:16 AM
Its been a while since I have done a set of rankings, so I did the first production day of season three to try and get back into it. I only did the first two episodes of the production day.

THE BIFOCAL MONOCLE OF ONE-EYED JACK

Veronica
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 6.5
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 5
Temple Run: 2.5
Overall: 5.5

Thomas
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 2.5
Overall: 6.3

Megan
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 4.5
Overall: 6.63

Colby
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6.5
Individual Game: 1
Team Game: 4.5
Overall: 4.75

NOTES:
This episode was terrible and both teams were not that great at all. I almost fell asleep watching this episode because its so bad and boring. The first two rounds, both the Red Jaguars and Orange Iguanas were both about on the same pace with each other. They were nothing special, but it was good enough for them to advance to the temple games.

The temple games were terrible though. The Red Jaguar boy was so pathetic in his temple game. He couldn't even pull himself up through the first hole in the human maze temple game! Thomas was not even trying hard either, but he looked amazing compared to the Red Jaguar boy. The team game was equally as bad where both teams struggled to make it through the maze.

And Oh God, the temple run... was just cringeworthy. Veronica takes forever to climb the wall in the Pit, she moves slow, AND she runs into the King's Storeroom for no reason instead of backtracking to the Chamber. Thomas shows us that he is equally as clueless and pulls on the Crypt books and runs into the same deadend that his partner ran into. Both of them were lost causes. :roll:

Overall, this was a terrible episode and I remember why I hate it.

THE COMET-EMBROIDERED BATTLE FLAG OF WILLIAM THE CONQUEROR

Olivia
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.4

Jonathan
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 8.5
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 7.25
Overall: 7.6

Natalie
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6.5
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 5
Overall: 5.88

Kyle
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.00

NOTES:
Let's cut to the chase, the Red Jaguars were no match for Olivia and Jonathan. Aside from the Steps, they were a pretty dominant team in the entire episode. They came close to coming first in the moat, swept the temple games, and almost escaped with a center of the temple victory.

The Red Jaguars were no match for the Green Monkeys in the temple games. Jonathan and Olivia dominated their individual game, and both of them were pretty damn good in the team game. Olivia had good aiming when it came to knocking down the soldiers.

The temple run for this episode was pretty good minus the obvious mistakes both contestants made. Olivia wasted too much time in the Pit when all she had to do was run down into the Tomb. Jonathan was very fast and smart, but he stalled in the Room of the Ancient Warriors when the first suit of armor he tried opened the Chamber door. All mistakes aside, both players reached an artifact from the center of the temple AND almost won. And we complain how "The Marble Armrest of Xerxes" kids had a tough layout. Well, this team had an almost identical layout AND they still managed to reach the artifact.

Overall, I enjoyed this episode and forgot how good it was.

THE WAR FAN OF THE 47 RONIN

Elise
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7.5
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 5
Temple Run: 7.5
Overall: 6.6

Jeremy
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 5.5
Temple Run: 7.5
Overall: 7.1

Julian
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Overall: 6.75

Joe
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 7.5
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.5

NOTES:
This was about an average episode and nothing really special. I felt like both of these teams scraped by each round of the temple in a way. But overall, they had some good performances.

Jeremy and Joe were both dominant in their individual games, while Elise and Julian's temple game were close but both of them had a hard time finding pairs for their rocks. (To be fair, this temple game was pretty bad because it was hard for the girls to memorize where a rock was placed due to them constantly changing positions.) The Silver Snakes looked pretty mediocre in the team emple game though where Elise kept dropping the rings and could not get one of the rings on the pillar.

Ultimately, the Silver Snakes won the tiebreakers. I felt that they were the better team in the end anyways, so no complaint about them going to the temple. As for the temple run, both contestants did well despite the circumstance they faced. Jeremy was fast and made it one room away with about a minute left. Elise, despite getting screwed out of 30 seconds, still managed to reach the Room of the Secret Password. They might've won if it wasn't for the Tomb of the Headless Kings door getting stuck.

Overall, it was about an average episode.

THE MUCH-HERALDED HELMET OF SIR GAWAIN

Tiffani
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 7.5
Overall: 7.0

Jahmel
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 7.13

Donna
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.63

Josh
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.13

NOTES:
Ah, the episode I have seen so many times. :roll:

To be honest, the Orange Iguanas did not look too impressive in the temple games. In the human maze game, it looked like Tiffani was taking her time to get through the holes. The Purple Parrot girl was not much faster, but she at least was trying a little harder. The second temple game with the boulder was so badly coordinated. I mean the "mace" was not even working half of the time. I guess that was the first time this temple game was used? And finally, the Purple Parrots missed a lot of their cups in the team game. But Tiffani once again messed up the team game because she was taking her time putting the cups into the bucket. Overall though, Orange managed to beat Purple.

And now for the temple run. Tiffani was pretty slow in the temple and she got lucky with her temple guard placement. But she also did many things right in the temple including making it back to the platform and taking the Dark Forest shortcut. And not only that, she dragged that huge ass Helmet out of the temple and still managed to win. Taking all of this into account, she did a solid job in the temple and I gave her a relatively good score.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 11, 2012, 02:43:35 AM
Yay, the rankings are back! :mrred: I was starting to miss your rankings, and I can't wait until you finish the first Season 3 production day. I'll hold off on my comments until you are completely done with them. ;) You are gonna modify your above post to include the latter two episodes, right?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 11, 2012, 02:46:10 AM
Yeah, I will just add the "War Fan" and "Sir Gawain" rankings with the other two episodes since it would only be fitting and save space in the topic. I also noticed a lot of errors in my "William the Conqueror" rankings I fixed like when I said they brought the artifact out and said Jonathan wasted time in the King's Storeroom instead of Room of the Ancient Warriors.  :mrgreen: :lol:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 11, 2012, 02:49:37 AM
Also, did the Red Jaguar boy from "Bifocal Monocle" really do THAT bad in his temple game? I haven't seen this episode in ages (and you can imagine why :roll:), but didn't he miraculously make it halfway up the cubby hole/trampoline before Thomas won the whole game? Not like either team was super spectacular, this whole episode screams "filler/waste of space."
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 11, 2012, 03:02:33 AM
Also, did the Red Jaguar boy from "Bifocal Monocle" really do THAT bad in his temple game? I haven't seen this episode in ages (and you can imagine why :roll:), but didn't he miraculously make it halfway up the cubby hole/trampoline before Thomas won the whole game? Not like either team was super spectacular, this whole episode screams "filler/waste of space."

He was struggling the whole time to get up that cubby hole. Maybe a "1" was a little harsh, but he was seriously that bad and couldn't pull himself up through that hole to save his life. Even Thomas noticed this and it look like he took his time to exit the maze because the Red Jaguar boy just could not make it through that hole. I guess Veronica was taking note and it carried over to her temple run.  :roll:

And a "waste of space" is an understatement for this episode. We all give "The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan" and "The Keys to the Alhambra" a hard time for being an bad episode, I think this one ranks right with them. Except at least the two episodes mentioned above were season one episodes, so they kind of have an excuse for their terrible performance. Both of these teams sucked.  :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 11, 2012, 10:58:21 AM
I don't think Olivia deserves a 6. She dawdled around in the pit for too long and is one of the reasons why the team lost. I think she deserves a 5.

And by the way, that same team didn't almost sweep the Steps. They almost lost.....
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 11, 2012, 11:28:30 AM
I modified my post to include the other two episodes. ;)

And maybe I will go back and adjust Olivia's temple score. But I still think both of them were responsible for losing. Olivia wasted time in the Pit when she didn't even need to climb the wall. And Jonathan wasted almost as much time placing himself in the other armors when the first one was the one that opened the door.

Also, I mentioned that the Green Monkeys in that episode did well in every round except the Steps. Of course, knowing my wording, I probably didn't make it clear. I will go back and make adjustsments to that post later. :mrred:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 11, 2012, 04:22:55 PM
Ah, at last the rankings are complete. Now for my thoughts:

The Bifocal Monocle was a terrible episode. TERRIBLE episode. There was nothing remarkable about any of the rounds, and BOTH teams in the temple games sucked. And don't even get me started on the temple run. Though considering the Red Jaguars' poor performance in the temple games, I'm not sure if they would have done a better job. How on earth do they get on the show? I know they're just kids, and can't all be like Gator and Jarrid, but good lord. Your review and rankings of this episode reminds me all over again why I always skip over this episode whenever I go back to rewatch episodes. :roll:

The Battle Flag episode was alright, IMMENSE improvement over the aforementioned episode. The Green Monkeys were a pretty dominant team all episode, though the Red Jaguars were an okay team too. It was Natalie who sucked though, and that's what brought the team down. The temple run was okay, but disappointing. This really should have been a win. But Olivia's hesitating in the Pit and Jonathan's screwing around in the Room of the Ancient Warriors prevented that. Oh well, typical result for an artifact in the Center of the Room.

The War Fan episode was just plain average. You're right about both teams, they both barely scraped by each round. Though the Silver Snakes had an early lead during the Steps. But the other teams caught right up to them. The Snake also did an okay job in the temple games, but they struggled with the third. If it wasn't for that, they could have swept the temple games. And we all know about the temple run, the door got stuck and prevented this team from winning. Oh well, at least they got the second prize at the end. What I don't understand is.... why didn't the production crew just stop the run to fix the door? Or better yet, give the team a restart on a later day. If they can postpone Secret Battle Plan and Belshazzar for production issues, couldn't they do the same here? Especially since this was the first filming day of Season 3. Maybe the production crew figured by Season 3, they can handle production issues. So hence, there was no need to postpone or refilm everything.

And finally, Sir Gawain. An episode that was WAY overplayed by Nick Gas. Plus, this was one of the few episodes that was on YouTube back in the day. The episode itself was still pretty good, but really, it wasn't all that exciting. The temple games were okay I guess. Both Tiffani and Donna sort of struggled with the team game, even if it was Donna who won. The second temple game is TERRIBLY voiced over. Seriously, just listen to Kirk's voice, it sounds really annoying. Plus, I love how he almost calls Jahmel "Donna." And you're right about the mace too, it was like the Spotters couldn't even swing on it properly. And yes, this was the first time the "swinging boulder" game was used. That's probably why the spotters had a hard time swinging the boulder back and forth. And the team game was sort of a mess, since both teams kept missing the bucket. But in the end, the Orange Iguanas destroyed the Purple Parrots in the third game, with a score of 8-3. And the temple run.... I find Tiffani a tad overrated. Sure she got back on the platform and didn't run into any temple guards. But she still moved pretty slow and honestly, she was just lucky with the path she took. And yeah, that artifact was HUGE. I can definitely understand her slowing down trying to bring that artifact out. Overall, it was a good win, and Tiffani did a good job. But I find it overrated. I don't love this episode, I just find it average at best.

Whew, that was long. :lol: As far as the whole filming day goes, it was just average. I honestly didn't find any of the episodes that exciting, and Bifocal Monocle was just atrocious. Though I did like the moat crossing on that filming day, and thought it was pretty cool. Plus, all the rounds with that moat were close. Good rankings like always, I still want to try my hand at it. I'm not sure which taping day I'll start with though.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 12, 2012, 01:24:03 AM
Ah, at last the rankings are complete. Now for my thoughts:

The Bifocal Monocle was a terrible episode. TERRIBLE episode. There was nothing remarkable about any of the rounds, and BOTH teams in the temple games sucked. And don't even get me started on the temple run. Though considering the Red Jaguars' poor performance in the temple games, I'm not sure if they would have done a better job. How on earth do they get on the show? I know they're just kids, and can't all be like Gator and Jarrid, but good lord. Your review and rankings of this episode reminds me all over again why I always skip over this episode whenever I go back to rewatch episodes. :roll:

I don't even wanna see the Red Jaguars in the temple either. I mean after watching that Jaguar boy in his temple game, I think they would've been equally pathetic. I know the temple layout was unusual, but there is no reason for a team to be that stupid and inattentive. Like Thomas pulling on books in the Crypt and Veronica backtracking to a useless detour.

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The Battle Flag episode was alright, IMMENSE improvement over the aforementioned episode. The Green Monkeys were a pretty dominant team all episode, though the Red Jaguars were an okay team too. It was Natalie who sucked though, and that's what brought the team down. The temple run was okay, but disappointing. This really should have been a win. But Olivia's hesitating in the Pit and Jonathan's screwing around in the Room of the Ancient Warriors prevented that. Oh well, typical result for an artifact in the Center of the Room.

Looking back at the rankings now, I think I am going to knock Olivia's temple score down a little bit just because she didn't last long and she wasted a little too much time in the Pit. Even Kirk told her she didn't have to climb and she still wasted time doing so. But they were still a strong team in the end and I thought the temple ending was still exciting.
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The War Fan episode was just plain average. You're right about both teams, they both barely scraped by each round. Though the Silver Snakes had an early lead during the Steps. But the other teams caught right up to them. The Snake also did an okay job in the temple games, but they struggled with the third. If it wasn't for that, they could have swept the temple games. And we all know about the temple run, the door got stuck and prevented this team from winning. Oh well, at least they got the second prize at the end. What I don't understand is.... why didn't the production crew just stop the run to fix the door? Or better yet, give the team a restart on a later day. If they can postpone Secret Battle Plan and Belshazzar for production issues, couldn't they do the same here? Especially since this was the first filming day of Season 3. Maybe the production crew figured by Season 3, they can handle production issues. So hence, there was no need to postpone or refilm everything.

This whole run was screwed up from the beginning to the end. I mean Jeremy had a hard time finding the Headless King skull when it was sitting on the chair for the warrior the whole time. How was he suppose to know? Then Elise is screwed out of thirty seconds due to a production error out of her control. You're right, the producers should've redone the temple run until they got it right. There is no reason why a team should've been screwed over because of the production crew.

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And finally, Sir Gawain. An episode that was WAY overplayed by Nick Gas. Plus, this was one of the few episodes that was on YouTube back in the day. The episode itself was still pretty good, but really, it wasn't all that exciting. The temple games were okay I guess. Both Tiffani and Donna sort of struggled with the team game, even if it was Donna who won. The second temple game is TERRIBLY voiced over. Seriously, just listen to Kirk's voice, it sounds really annoying. Plus, I love how he almost calls Jahmel "Donna." And you're right about the mace too, it was like the Spotters couldn't even swing on it properly. And yes, this was the first time the "swinging boulder" game was used. That's probably why the spotters had a hard time swinging the boulder back and forth. And the team game was sort of a mess, since both teams kept missing the bucket. But in the end, the Orange Iguanas destroyed the Purple Parrots in the third game, with a score of 8-3. And the temple run.... I find Tiffani a tad overrated. Sure she got back on the platform and didn't run into any temple guards. But she still moved pretty slow and honestly, she was just lucky with the path she took. And yeah, that artifact was HUGE. I can definitely understand her slowing down trying to bring that artifact out. Overall, it was a good win, and Tiffani did a good job. But I find it overrated. I don't love this episode, I just find it average at best.

I am glad I am not the only one that noticed the dubbing either! It was so awkward and out of place. I wonder why it was dubbed over in the first place. Anyways, the temple game was very sloppy and uncoordinated. The boulders weren't even swinging all the way half of the time. I figured that was the first time that temple game was used also.

And I agree with your sentiments about the temple win also. At one time that win use to be in my top 10 favorite wins, but now it barely makes it in the top 15 for me. I don't know whether to call the temple win overrated or Tiffani overrated. I mean we have given Tiffani a hard time about beng slow and having a lucky path. But at the same time, she probably avoided a couple of temple guards by taking a shortcut. But then again, the "Sojourner Truth" team took the exact same path, yet they met all three guards. But I don't think Tiffani was too overrated because she made up in other areas like swinging back to the platform and dragging the huge Helmet out. But still, not one of my favorites.
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Whew, that was long. :lol: As far as the whole filming day goes, it was just average. I honestly didn't find any of the episodes that exciting, and Bifocal Monocle was just atrocious. Though I did like the moat crossing on that filming day, and thought it was pretty cool. Plus, all the rounds with that moat were close. Good rankings like always, I still want to try my hand at it. I'm not sure which taping day I'll start with though.

I would have to say I liked the episodes in this order:

"Sir Gawain" > "William the Conqueror" > "War Fan" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Bifocal Monocle"

I am thinking about doing "The Ivory Hunting Horn of Roland" day next. I don't remember any episodes from that production day, but I guess that will include "The Dried-Apple Half of William Tell". :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Silver Monkey on July 12, 2012, 01:31:41 AM
Dried Apple Half wasn't filmed the same day as Roland. The other episodes that day were Royal Torque, Lost Hornpipe, and Enormous Feather. Pretty good day, save for a certain Orange Iguana.  :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 12, 2012, 01:48:08 AM
Even better, 3/4 of those episodes are excellent. The "Pirate Captain" and "Queen Boadicea" episodes in general are great to watch, and "The Ivory Hunting Horn of Roland" is also a pretty damn good episode also. I hate the "Enormous Feather" episode though and the Orange Iguanas barely scraped by in that episode.

Notice how the Purple Parrots lose in the temple games in  3/4 of those episodes except for "Roland". :mrpurple:

And I guess that means "William Tell" is part of the "Hans Holbein" production day?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Silver Monkey on July 12, 2012, 01:55:10 AM
Notice how the Purple Parrots lose in the temple games in  3/4 of those episodes except for "Roland". :mrpurple:And I guess that means "William Tell" is part of the "Hans Holbein" production day?

2/4, actually. Royal Torque was Red/Green.

And yes, Dried Apple Half was filmed the same day as Missing Portrait (as well as Discarded Seal and Mysterious Manuscript).
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 12, 2012, 02:14:27 AM
And the Dried Apple Half and Roland filming day were back to back. Which one are you gonna do next, should you do more rankings?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 12, 2012, 02:29:29 AM
I am definitely going to do the "Roland" day on account that I need to watch a production day with better episodes. And "The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain" and "The Royal Torque of Queen Boadicea" are one of my all time favorite episodes, so I know I won't be disappointed with those.  :mrred:

Meanwhile, I only like "Ivan the Terrible" for the "William Tell" production day.
"Hans Holbein" is an average episode that was boring and forgettable.
I hate the "William Tell" episode and the temple run is just horrible and cringeworthy.
I like the "Mary Shelly" episode only for the Legend and the temple games were surprisingly good, but the temple run sucks also.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 19, 2012, 02:04:52 AM
I just finished my rankings for "The Ivory Hunting Horn of Roland" day. This was a good set of episodes overall, but there is one episode that ruined it kind of. I bet the numbers can tell you what episode that is. :roll:

THE IVORY HUNTING HORN OF ROLAND

Yakerra
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 6.75
Overall: 7.15

Kraig
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 7.88

Courtney
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 7.5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.25

Gerald
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.75

NOTES:
This was a very exciting episode to watch, and both male players were fantastic. Admitedly, the Red Jaguars almost didn't go to the temple games since the Orange Iguanas were on fire in the Steps, But Kraig pulled out two quick answers at the last second to get his team to the temple games.

The temple games were competitive for both teams, but the Green Monkeys were slightly better in their individual games.  The Red Jaguars on the other hand did great in their temple games and I have never seen a team do so well in the boulder throwing game. Both Yakerra and Kraig were synchronized well.\

To be honest though, Yakerra never impressed me much in her temple run. Her layout was simple and she was slow if you take into account the simple layout. Not to mention she went into the back of the Shrine temple guard door when she got the Ivory Hunting Horn. She could've easily beaten the "Shaka Zulu" record, but its was still an earned victory nevertheless.

Overall, it was a good episode with a sort of exciting run and temple win.

THE ROYAL TORQUE OF QUEEN BOADICEA

Lissy
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 7.5
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 7.1

Nate
Moat: 8.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 6.5
Temple Run: 8.5
Overall: 8.1

Jeanie
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 7.5
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 4.5
Overall: 5.75

Chris
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.63

NOTES:
The Red Jaguars were a very strong team in this episode, especially Nate. He was one of two contestants first across the moat. Lissy kind of struggled, but she made it across after a couple of attempts. The Green Monkey girl sucked though and she LITERALLY beat the Orange Iguanas by a second.

The Red Jaguars swept the temple games in this episode and looked strong here. Nate did a solid job from preventing the Green Monkey boy from knocking down his Tower, while the Green Monkey boy kind of struggled to keep up with Nate. Lissy was moving kind of slow in her temple game compared to the Green Monkey girl, but she didn't fall off once, which helped her in the end win. The Green Monkey girl was fast but kept falling off,

The Green Monkeys looked really bad in the team temple game though. They were not synchronized at all and the Green Monkey boy kept pulling his partner back to the wall when she was trying to grab the boulder. The Red Jaguars on the other hand did great. Nate struggled to throw the boulders over the wall a few times, but Lissy did a good job catching them and both of them were synchronized. I gave Lissy a slightly better score.

The temple run is what really brought Lissy down. She just moved too slow in the Crypt and took too long climbing the wall in the Pit. Plus, she was kind of hesitated too much. Nate on the other hand was both fast and smart. He didn't stall even once and he grabbed the Torque with a small amount of time left. He was even smart to take the top floor out of the temple. Too bad they lost though because they would've won if Lissy picked up the pace.

Overall, this was a very exciting episode that ended with a very exciting loss. Great effort by the Red Jaguars.

THE LOST HORNPIPE OF THE PIRATE CAPTAIN

Jessica
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 9
Temple Run: 10
Overall: 8.6

Jarrid
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 9
Temple Run: 9.5
Overall: 8.3

Mary
Moat: 8.5
Steps of Knowledge: 7.5
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.75

Brent
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 10
Team Game: 7
Overall: 8.5

NOTES:
This episode featured two very strong teams. The Purple Parrots were dominant in the moat and did well at the Steps, while the Green Monkeys were right behind them in both categories.

The Purple Parrot boy, Brent, was very strong in his temple game. He knocked down all four soldiers in under a half-minute. Poor Jarrid struggled in this temple game and couldn't even keep up with Brent. Jessica and Mary were very competitive in their temple games and both ended in a close tie.

Jarrid and Jessica were very fast in their team game. They only beat it in what, 19 seconds? It only took both of them 4-5 pushes to knock down all three ships. The Purple Parrots were close behind them, but Jarrid and Jessica were just too good hear.

And do I really needs to say much about the temple run? They owned everything! I did have to give Jarrid a slightly lower score for the mistake in the Secret Password, but other than that...

Best team on Legends ever?

Overall, this was easily the best episode of the entire production day.

THE ENORMOUS FEATHER OF THE ME LINH

Karisa
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6.5
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 4
Temple Run: 3
Overall: 5.3

David
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 7.5
Team Game: 6
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run:8
Overall: 7.6

Molly
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.0

Joey
Moat: 8.5
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7.5
Overall: 7.75


NOTES:
Want a perfect example of a team scraping by each round? Well the Orange Iguanas won fourth in the moat, second in the steps, one pendant in the temple games, and had a mediocre temple run.

Really, none of the teams impressed me in this episode. The girls both looked pathetic in their temple game and I don't even know how Karisa won. The Purple Parrot girl kept missing her arrows when tossing them into the bucket and Karisa was dangling during the last 15 seconds of the game. Neither of them were that good.

Karisa sucked in the team temple game because she couldn't push David hard enough to knock down a Golden Statue. She also wasted time trying to even hold David still! I wonder why David didn't opt to push instead?

And ugh, the temple run is such a big fail! David was fast and solid, and he completed the bottom floor in about a minute . Karisa is such a fail and I swear Renegade Pancake couldn't have described her better: a tard. Really, she got lost in the Quicksand Bog and ran so slow all the way to the Shrine. Its a miracle she even made it to the Feather, and that was because David cleared a nice path for her. She didn't even bother speeding up in the end!

Overall, this episode sucked and both teams were not very good. It was clear that David was the one that carried this team throughout the temple. I hate this episode.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 19, 2012, 02:52:10 AM
Yay, more rankings! :mrred: Now, my thoughts on them all:

Roland is a great episode. You can definitely tell both Kirk AND Dee had fun with this episode. "Lets get Roland!" anyone? As far as the rankings go, it seems like BOTH teams were neck and neck. Especially since the temple games ended with the Red Jaguars beating the Green Monkeys 1.5-1. And I agree about the temple run. Honestly, I consider Yakerra overrated. Sure, she moved pretty fast, but her layout was so simple, like you said. While it was an earned victory, to call Yakerra "an amazing, wonderful player who's just plain excellent," is pushing it. She's not an "amazing, all start player" that people make her out to be. I found her to be average, and not that impressive. Still a good episode nonetheless.

And Royal Torque is a pretty good episode too. And what a coincidence, another Red vs. Green match up, with Red going to the temple. As for the teams, Nate was clearly the star of the show. He definitely carried the team throughout the episode. Jeanie on the Green Monkeys sucked, she really brought her team down. And the Green Monkeys were pathetic in the team game. They couldn't even get one rock in the bin, while the Red Jaguars synced together perfectly, like you said. I think giving them a 4 or a 5 was a little too generous. They both deserved a 3 in my opinion. The temple run was good, Lissy was too slow. Nate did very well, even grabbed the Royal Torque too! My guess if he had stayed low, it probably would have been an "Icarus" or "Emiliano Zapata" type finish. They probably would have won if Lissy wasn't so hesitant. Either way, pretty exciting ending, an IMMENSE improvement over the other Red Jaguar "bottom central shaft" run. *coughFrederickDouglasscough*

And what more needs to be said about Pirate Captain? Jessica and Jarrid OWNED IT through every single round. And the Purple Parrots weren't so far behind either. Really, there's no excuse NOT to give Jessica a 10 for the run. She made the bottom central shaft look like it was nothing! Especially considering the Pit/Storeroom entry way was somehow blocked, and was potentially a production error. That's what adds on to the awesomeness of the run. And enough said about Jarrid too, even with his Secret Password detour. Great episode, "one of the best teams ever seen" indeed.

And then, after three exciting and awesome episodes, we get.... this. The dreaded Enormous Feather episode. I always hate it when there's a strong of good episodes, and then we get a really crappy one. And this episode is a perfect example of that. The Orange Iguanas just BARELY won each round, total dumb luck if you ask me. I thought it was gonna be PP Pwnage with the Parrots, being first in the moat, AND first in the Steps. Only to once again, choke at the tiebreaker. -_- Though looking at your rankings, everyone besides Karisa did pretty decently. It was her who brought down the whole episode. And don't even get me started on the temple run. Do. Not. Want. I've only seen the full episode 2 or 3 times at most. And like Bifocal Monocle, I always skip over this one whenever I'm rewatching episodes on YouTube. I hate this episode too. Like TPP said when reviewing this episode long ago, "I was rooting for the Parrots in the temple games." The Purple Parrots would have done a better job for sure.

Like always, great rankings. :D Are you gonna do the "Discarded Seal" filming day next? Since you brought that up earlier.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 19, 2012, 03:03:59 AM
I am thinking of doing "The Bullet-Riddled Handbag of Belle Boyd" day next before doing "Ivan the Terrible" day. I want to get rankings for Leah and Matthew. The only downside about the "Belle Boyd" day is that I have to watch the "Sojourner Truth" team and "Lily-Crested Crown", both boring episodes.  :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 19, 2012, 03:05:08 AM
Lily Crested Crown wasn't on Belle Boyd's filming day. Unless you want to do the Lily Crested Crown/Apanuugpak filming day next.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 19, 2012, 03:06:51 AM
So no "Clovis I"? Awesome!

So IIRC, that day consisted of "Pytheas", "Belle Boyd", and "Sojourner Truth"... I don't remember the other episode, is it "Tokugawa Ieayasu"? If so, then that will be a production day full of two pendant runs. :o :mrred:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on July 19, 2012, 10:21:43 AM
So no "Clovis I"? Awesome!

So IIRC, that day consisted of "Pytheas", "Belle Boyd", and "Sojourner Truth"... I don't remember the other episode, is it "Tokugawa Ieayasu"? If so, then that will be a production day full of two pendant runs. :o :mrred:
Nope. It's Gwalior.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 19, 2012, 03:21:43 PM
Yeah, Gwalior was first, Belle Boyd was second, Pytheas was third, and Sojourner Truth was fourth. But, that whole filming day was all 2 pendant runs. In fact, with the exception of Sojourner Truth, all the runs that day had the temple game score of 2-1.5. Sojourner Truth was 2-0.5. Interesting coincidence there.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Silver Monkey on July 19, 2012, 04:38:11 PM
Tokugawa was on the same day as Clovis I, as well as Apanuugpak and Poseidon. We all know what the standout episode that day was.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 20, 2012, 04:46:45 PM
I remember saying that I would rank Jennifer from the John Sutter episode to see if I've given her too much criticism. Well, here is my ranking of her (plus Damian and the team overall just for kicks):

John Sutter and the Map to the Lost Gold Mine

Damian
Moat: 9
SoK: N/A (no attempt)
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 8.5
Temple Run: 7
Average: 8.13

Jennifer
Moat: 9
SoK: 9
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 8.5
Temple Run: 7.5
Average: 8.4

Overall Team Average: 8.27

Okay, I HAVE given Jennifer a bunch of undeserved criticism. She was great the entire show. Her temple run performance was pretty good. However, I docked her points for making a few mistakes during the run:

-Sitting on the Throne when Damian already did that. I let her off the hook here though because her plan was to enter the Spider's Lair. Plus, in a rush to get there, she probably forgot that Damian completed the Throne Room.

-Struggling with the Silver Monkey. This was where she got slowed down the most. I obviously had to dock her for this. That "dastardly" Silver Monkey!

-Putting the torch in the torch holders when all she had to do was ride the elevator. I docked her for that as well.

HOWEVER, despite all of that, Jennifer was very fast and she did most of the work. That's not to say Damian was bad. He did a pretty good job throughout the episode too (not including the Steps). This was a really good episode.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 21, 2012, 12:50:24 AM
Thank you! I agree with your rankings so much more than THK's for "Map to the Lost Gold Mine". I was honestly baffled on how Damian ranked 5.6 overall on that episode. I mean when TMH did his team rankings a long time ago, I am pretty sure Damian and Jennifer were like one of the top 10 teams on Legends or something like that. Looking back at THK's rankings, I just don't understand how Damian would get "3" in the Steps. I mean what did he do so bad that they got such a low score again?

And another thing that bothered me about his rankings for Jennifer and Damian was that both of them got a "6" in the temple. Yet, he turned around and gave both Gabby and Joe the SAME ranking even though they only traveled through four rooms. Both contestants were solid in the temple and I wouldn't deduct them for every little mistake like he did. Damian may had not lasted long, but he was very quick and covered three rooms in under 30 seconds. Jennifer moved fast too and she covered 7 rooms before reaching the Map. I mean the only place she really had trouble with is the Shrine and Torch Room. And many good contestants like Jason from "Nostradamus" and Andrea struggled in the Shrine. I think both temple scores are good.

Overall, I just don't agree with THK's rankings for Damian and Jennifer and I prefer yours more. I mean they finished first in the moat, first in the Steps, two pendants in the temple games, and won in the temple run. Having a team average of "6.3" just doesn't add up for a team this solid. I mean they were no Jarrid and Jessica but they were a kick ass team still.

And on another note, there was only one temple game miscounted in this episode and that was the first game. The third game was not miscounted and Jennifer and Damian won that one fair and square.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 21, 2012, 01:37:30 AM
Yeah, I strongly agree with PP319's rankings MUCH more than I ever did THK's rankings. I'm sorry, but I thought THK's rankings of John Sutter were way too harsh and honestly, ridiculous. He was way too hard on them for no reason. I fail to see why Damian got a "3" for the Steps, like TRJ pointed out. Just because he didn't ring in much, he automatically gets a low point? And his rankings on both Damian AND Jennifer were way too harsh. No way did they deserve a 6, they were both great players. Just because someone doesn't move fast, doesn't make them a terrible player. You can't call a win bad and undeserved just because they're not Jarrid or Gator speed. Go back and watch the other three runs before them. You'll be grateful we even HAD players that were at least halfway decent. Really now. This team dominated every round and still earned a very exciting and memorable victory. They deserved to win, no other way around it.

Overall, great rankings, PP319. I basically agree with all of them.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 21, 2012, 01:43:00 AM
Thanks guys. Those two truly were good players. The reason I gave Damian an N/A for the Steps is because he never attempted to ring in and he never answered anything. Jennifer did the work there.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Silver Monkey on July 21, 2012, 01:56:40 AM
Thanks guys. Those two truly were good players. The reason I gave Damian an N/A for the Steps is because he never attempted to ring in and he never answered anything. Jennifer did the work there.

Better that than a 0.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 21, 2012, 03:37:23 PM
Thanks guys. Those two truly were good players. The reason I gave Damian an N/A for the Steps is because he never attempted to ring in and he never answered anything. Jennifer did the work there.

Better that than a 0.

I usually give a player that does not answer a "6" or "7" at the Steps. If they get an answer wrong, I will deduct for them. But I have never given any player a "1" on the Steps so far. The lowest one I gave was to Ashlie from "The Bonnet of Dolley Madison", where I gave him a "3" because she got 3 answers wrong. But she still got one correct though, so its not like she was totally a wash out there. The only one I would probably give a "1" to is for that Silver Snake boy in "The Trojan Horseshoe". Seriously, that kid was terrible and he almost blew it for his team. But then again, that whole steps round was pitiful.

I don't know, maybe THK had a reasoning behind giving some of these contestants a low score. But to me, it just makes the contestants look worse than what they really were. Contestants like Jackie, Chris from "The Stone Marker of Leif Erickson", and Damian all got low scores for no reason at the Steps.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 10, 2012, 12:23:50 AM
Its been a while since I have done rankings, but here are my rankings for the "Hans Holbein" production day.

THE DISCARDED SEAL OF IVAN THE TERRIBLE

Elisa
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 8.5
Team Game: 8.5
Temple Run: 9
Overall: 8.5

Travis
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 8.5
Team Game: 8.5
Temple Run: 9
Overall: 8.1

Ashley
Moat: 8.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.63

Jimmy
Moat: 8.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6.5
Overall: 7.5

NOTES:
I loved this episode, Elisa's enthusiasm makes it a very fun episode to watch. Plus, both teams were competitive even though the Green Monkeys swept the temple games.

Travis and Elisa sort of struggled in the earlier rounds, but they shined in the temple games and temple run. The Orange Iguanas were good too, but Travis and Elisa were the better team in the end. Travis in general did exceptionally well in his individual game.

We all know the story behind the temple run. Travis and Elisa were amazing in the temple, and they really didn't do a single thing wrong. Travis was fast, made it back to the platform, tried all available shortcuts, and still made it to the Shrine with a minute remaining. Elisa races to where Travis was taken out and assembles the monkey. Unfortunately, she caught an unlucky break in the Ancient Warriors where the first suit of armor was the one that unlocked the door, and that was the one she passed! Had she chose that one first, then I think they would've reached the Seal at least.

Looking at the rankings for Travis and Elisa, its such a tragedy that such an amazing team loss. The producers should feel ashamed for making a layout that was not winnable for any team. They truly are the best losing team in the temple.

THE MYSTERIOUS MANUSCRIPT OF MARY SHELLEY

Kate
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 7.5
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 4.5
Overall: 7.3

Larry
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7.5
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 2
Overall: 6.3

Ashlie
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7.5
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.63

Clyde
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 5.5
Overall: 6.63

NOTES:
We have another enthusiastic girl that makes it to the temple, but this time around it seems staged. Although I have to admit that some of Kate's antics made me smile.

But really, I don't have much to say about this episode. The Blue Barracudas were pretty dominant up until the temple run. They finished second in the moat and swept the Steps of Knowledge. The Silver Snakes felt more like an average team to me and were nothing special at all.

Even in the temple games, the Blue Barracudas were the better team. In the first temple game, it ended in a tie. But I gave Kate a slightly higher score because I felt she put in a better effort. And what is with Kirk in this temple game? He was making bad literary puns right and left. :roll: The second temple game was very close and almost ended in a tie as well, but Clyde fell off a couple of times towards the end and allowed Larry to edge out. The Silver Snakes looked mediocre in the team temple games though and the Silver Snake boy kept missing rings around Franky's head while the Blue Barracudas had good accuracy. And was Kirk high during this temple game? He kept calling Larry a "She"...

And after a relatively strong pre-temple round performance, the Blue Barracudas blew their load during the temple run. Kate was really not that great and she moved slow and hesitated in a lot of rooms. She only made it to the Shrine with a little over a minute left. Larry fails though for not making any progress after Kate is taken out. Nobodu butchered the monkey like Larry did and he didn't even have any of the three parts in the right direction. Plus, he ran like a retard in the temple.

Overall, this was a good episode until the temple run. The Blue Barracudas should've done better and made it farther though.

THE DRIED APPLE HALF OF WILLIAM TELL

Brett
Moat: 5.5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 6.5
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 6.4

Lauren
Moat: 5.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 7.5
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 1
Overall: 5.7

Desiree
Moat: 3
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 3
Overall: 5.0

Chris
Moat: 4.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 4
Team Game: 4
Overall: 5.13

NOTES:
Another episode with a loud girl. But this time around, this girl sucked and was annoying plus obnoxious.

Unlike the previous episodes, the moat for this episode sucked. The kids in this moat were really having trouble, and both Green and Silver were third and fourth respectively in the moat. The Green Monkeys fell in once due to Lauren's incompetency and the Silver Snake girl was even worse! She fell in twice at least and almost fell in a third time. What a pathetic performance.

The Silver Snakes kind of redeemed themselves in the Steps with a near sweep of it. The Green Monkeys almost lost to the Jaguars, but they made it due to a lucky guess by Lauren.

Nothing special about the temple games either. They were the same temple games as "Mary Shelley". The first one ended in a tie like the previous episode. Once again, I gave Lauren a slightly better score since she was ahead more. I have to admit that Brett impressed me very much in his temple game. He moved fast on the wheel and at the same time was able to stay on and only fell off at the end once. The Silver Snake Boy was also trying to move fast too. Except unlike Brett, he kept falling off and Brett clobbered this kid,

And WTF Silver Snakes in the final temple game? The Silver Snake girl had trouble throwing the hat up to her partner. And her partner had terrible aim when throwing it on the pole also. Lauren also kind of struggled when she was throwing a hat up to Brett and Brett did have some bad aiming too, but the team still landed two hats. How pathetic.

And oh God, the temple run was one of the first runs of the entire season. The temple layout was downright brutal and no way these kids would've won. However, these two sucked from the start anyways. Brett was okay, but he moved slow in the temple and struggled to complete the central shaft. And word of advice Lauren: STFU! She didn't even make any effort when it was her turn in the temple. She only made it to the King's Storeroom and had 57 SECONDS to herself. The layout was a bitch, but the "Belle Boyd" team had a similar layout and they made it really far. These two failed miserably.

Overall, this episode sucked and both teams were pretty mediocre. Looking at the rankings for the Silver Snakes makes me wonder how this team even made it to the temple games.


THE MISSING PORTRAIT OF HANS HOLBEIN

Rachel
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 6.5
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.6

Keith
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 5.5
Overall: 7.3

Danielle
Moat: 5.5
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 3
Team Game: 5
Overall: 5.63

James
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 3
Team Game: 6
Overall: 5.5

NOTES:
This episode was MUCH better than "William Tell". The Purple Parrots barely scraped by in the moat, but it was good enough for them to go to the temple games. But the Purple Parrot girl did a great job in the Steps, so they sort of redeemed themslves here. The Blue Barracudas were very close to not going to the temple games either, but they barely beat the Jaguars to that last question.

And is it me or does that Purple Parrot boy look like Chandra from "Annie Oakley" brother? :shock:

The temple games featured another temple game sweep. The Purple Parrots looked like they were not match for the Barracudas. The Purple Parrot girl looked pathetic in her temple game. She could not get her giant wheel pass the middle ramp after destroying her first painting. Keith kind of struggled early on, but he beat his game relatively quickly. The Purple Parrot boy looked pathetic in the second temple game also where he only got one body part up while Rachel got four of them up. It looked more like though that the two contestants were just jumping around the entire time. But Rachel did do a more decent job too. As for the final temple game, the Purple Parrots performed well, but Keith did an awesome job when it came to catching the boulders and knocking down his soldiers. This Blue Barracuda team was not match for the Purple Parrots.

This temple run featured ANOTHER impossible layout. However, the Blue Barracudas could've made it further if they didn't make so many mistakes. Rachel did not try all three books in the Crypt, so she was forced down into the Ledges. Plus, she moved a little slow on top of that. Keith was not much faster either, but he made some progress at least. Its not like this team would've won anyways, but they would've made it to the Jester's Court if they weren't such slowpokes.

Overall, it was a slightly above average episode with a disappointing temple run ending where the team loses due to the producer's high expectations.

FINAL NOTE:
Every team in this production day won two pendants in the temple games. The temple layouts were pretty much a bitch for each of these also. I wonder what the producers were thinking? The only episode I really liked was "Ivan the Terrible" and "Mary Shelley" for the earlier rounds. Aside from "Ivan the Terrible", most of the temple runs were average or mediocre. I thought the "Hans Holbein" team put a decent effort in the temple at least. But really, the only episode you should watch for this day is "Ivan the Terrible".











Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 10, 2012, 01:19:43 AM
The Discarded Seal filming day. The one with all the bitchy layouts. Anyways, my thoughts:

Nothing more needs to be said about the Discarded season episode. Great episode, great players, and Travis and Elisa were robbed, enough said. Plus, notice how all three games ended before time was up? That's amazing.

Mysterious Manuscript was an.... okay episode. The Silver Snakes were nothing special and the Blue Barracudas dominated nearly every round until the temple run. For someone who was soooo enthusiastic, Kate was way too slow and hesitant in the temple. I guess just because you're so excited about being on the show doesn't mean you're a great player. And don't even get me started on Larry. :roll: Also, notice how Jennifer from "Tussaud" is the Orange Iguana who lost at the moat in that episode? I can imagine Kate and Jennifer being stuck in the same room together. :shock:

Dried Apple Half was a terrible episode. Poor performance by almost ALL the teams in the moat, mediocre steps round, unexciting temple games match, and a pathetic temple run. Brett was pretty slow, but he did okay. Lauren's performance in the temple was just sad. I think TMH put it perfectly on his website. If you run your mouth all temple run, but waste a MINUTE just getting to the King's Storeroom, you don't belong on the show. She definitely "fails as a human being" indeed. Just pathetic players and pathetic teams all around.

And Hans Holbein was an average episode. Not much else to say about this one other than it was yet another impossible layout. Rachel moved pretty slow, it took her a minute to even enter the first room after leaving the Pit. Keith was faster, but it was clear there was no hope for victory for this team. I don't think they would have gotten past the Jesters' Court even if they moved faster.

Also, one thing I find interesting is that not only was "Mysterious Manuscript" and "Dried Apple Half" on the same day, but both teams won the temple games 2-0.5 AND beat out the Silver Snakes. Plus, they had all three temple games in common. When it comes to "Discarded Seal" and "Hans Holbein," they outright swept the temple games. So the teams either swept the temple games or won 2-0.5. And regarding James, (the male Purple Parrot from "Hans Holbein"), I thought Denise (the female Silver Snake from "Dried Apple Half") looked more like Chandra than James did. Same facial expressions, same hair, only Denise had shorter hair. Overall, great rankings all around. Which filming day do you think you're gonna do next?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 10, 2012, 02:15:44 AM
I agree about the "William Tell" episode being terrible. Easily one of the bottom 5 episodes for season three. That was an uneventful episode with pretty piss poor teams. And TMH perfectly sums up the temple run also. Who takes a minute to get to where there partner leaves off anyways? Not even Kerry from the "Spanish King" temple run was that slow and terrible. And she didn't even make it into the King's Storeroom either. I also like how TMH mentions Brett having herpes too. :lol:

And yeah, I agree that the "Hans Holbein" team would've made it into the Jester's Court or even the Tomb if they put their butts into gear. I thought Keith was kind of slow and hesitant myself. But Rachel did waste a lot of time in the beginning. But still, that layout was impossible.

And I never noticed the similarities between "Mary Shelley" and "William Tell". I think I need to make an update to the episode similarities thread for both Ivan the Terrible/Hans Holbein and Mary Shelley/William Tell comparisons. And I don't even want to imagine Jennifer and Kate in the same room, they would duke it out for the most feisty girl. Unless you were trying to suggest something sexual was going to happen between them... ;)

And for my next set, I want to go back to season two for a little bit. I want to do "The Milk Bucket of Freydis" production day next. I guess that includes "Henry Morgan" with a strong Silver Snake team and another exciting temple loss, "Freydis" for Purple Parrots dominance and Tarrah's exciting temple run, "Golden Pepperoni" for another competitive episode with an infamous ending and terrible legend, and finally "Nathan Hale" with an awkward early format and piss poor temple run.

At least "Freydis" and "Henry Morgan" are great and exciting episodes, so I know this will be a good set of episodes. "Golden Pepperoni" is decent also for some rounds, but "Nathan Hale" is NOT a good episode. :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 10, 2012, 02:25:22 AM
I can't believe I forgot about the Brett having herpes bit on TMH's site. :lol: But seriously, what was with his upper lip there? And no, I did not mean anything sexual went on between Jennifer from "Tussaud" and Kate. My mind isn't THAT far into the gutters. XD And Nathan Hale wasn't on the Freydis filming day, besides the temple run being in S2, L5. The only other episode on the Freydis filming day is your personal favorite, Missing Weather Maps. I can't wait until you rank the infamous Kim. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 10, 2012, 02:33:53 AM
Okay good, I don't want to imagine what the room would sound like if Kate and Jennifer were doing something sexual. :o

And as for the Brett part, I always thought his lip was swollen from maybe something happening in an earlier round where he might've busted his lip. Either that or acne, which I am surprised more Legends contestants didn't have any. And I don't even wanna know how a 12-14 year old got Herpes in the first place if that is the case.  :o

Oh wait, I read nicklegend's site wrong. He has the entire "Nathan Hale" episode listed under S2L5, but he probably did that because he separates his episodes by temple layout rather than episode number. I noticed he did the same thing "Belshazzar" too. I should've known better though anyways on account that "Nathan Hale" was early on in season two.  :oops:

But still, "Charles Lindbergh" is still a lousy episode and I can't force myself to watch that temple run. It really is that painful to watch Kim piss it away. But then again, the Jaguars did sweep the temple games in that episode I believe. So it will be interesting to see Kim's ranking. :o

And oh yeah, "Charles Lindbergh" is NOT a personal favorite of mine. ;) If anything, that is one of my least favorite Red Jaguar episodes after the other infamous ones ("Alhambra", "Blackbeard's Treasure Map", and "Frederick Douglass"). Maybe I will do your personal favorite Purple Parrot episodes "The Lost Lion Tail of Little John" and "Sultan Suleiman" after these sets. :mrpurple:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Silver Monkey on August 10, 2012, 04:23:12 PM
As much as Kim basically makes Missing Weathermaps hard to watch, let's not forget that Nick was pretty good.

Maybe I will do your personal favorite Purple Parrot episodes "The Lost Lion Tail of Little John" and "Sultan Suleiman" after these sets. :mrpurple:

And as luck would have it, they were filmed on the same day, along with "The Jeweled Necklace of Montezuma" and "The Plumed Headdress of Cosa Rara".
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 05, 2012, 12:35:05 AM
Its been a long time since I have done rankings, so I finished mine for the first production day of S2L5. Most of these episodes were great, but I think we know which one was the odd man out. ;)

THE GOLDEN PEPPERONI OF CATHARINE DE' MEDICI

Aqila
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6.5
Temple Run: 4.5
Overall: 6.4

Chris
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7.5
Team Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.3

Tara
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6.5
Overall: 7.5

Michael
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7.5
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.00

NOTES:
People think this episode is bad because of the temple run. But the whole episode itself was enjoyable, at least in my opinion anyways.

This whole episode was Green-Purple until the end. Both teams were first in the and second in the moat respectively and they answered almost all the questions in the Steps. Oh yeah, the Orange Iguanas sucked at the Steps and got three wrong answers. Plus, that boy looked like a girl :roll:

The temple games were very close in this episode. Aqila and Tara tied their temple games, but Aqila got hit by one of the swinging columns so I had to give her a lower point. Chris got the raw deal in his temple game. He clearly got all four pieces of Merlin into his bucket first, but two of them fell out when he put them in. Yet, the spotters made him pick them up in order for them to count. The Green Monkey boy kind of struggled to climb up his pole. He only won because Chris dropped a couple pieces of his Merlin.

The last temple game was very close and Chris got the third crown on during the last two seconds of the temple game. Good job that he did, or else the Green Monkeys would've went to the temple with 2-1.5 pendants. Although I still think Chris should've won his temple game.

And we all know the story of the temple run. Chris didn't last long, but it easy to tell that he knew what he was doing and he was fast for sure. So I gave him about a slightly above average score. Aqila was kind of slow though and she took her time in some rooms. And of course, at the end of the run she misses the Golden Pepperoni and runs into the Mine Shaft elevator. Other than that, she did find the half-pendant and still made it to the room of the artifact. So its not like she was completely clueless as a certain contestant that you will see later in these rankings...

Overall, it was a competitive episode that was good until the temple run. Even then, the temple run still ended in memorable fashion. It was obvious that Chris was the better Purple Parrot here.

THE MILK BUCKET OF FREYDIS

Tarrah
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7.5
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 8.25
Overall: 7.75

Chris
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 9.5
Individual Game: 7.5
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 7.88

Jennifer
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 2
Team Game: 6
Overall: 5.25

Joshua
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.00

NOTES:
Another Purple Parrot episode! But this time, this Purple Parrot team was much more competent then the last one.

Tarrah did great in the moat. At first I thought that Chris was the one that crossed first, but it was Tarrah that went across first. And given her short stature, she did the best job out of all four contestants.

Poor Chris in his individual temple game. He was so tall that most of the time he had to lay flat to avoid the swinging obstacles. One of his horns also fell of the statue, but lucky Kirk counted it and the temple game ended in a tie.

Oh wow, that Silver Snake girl was AWFUL in her temple game. She kept touching the ground while climbing up the horse and had to start over. And she didn't do this not once, but during the whole temple game! She also ell down a couple of times trying to climb up. Tarrah was a little slow climbing up, but she never touched the ground once, so I gave her a small point boost for that. Also, Kirk was very annoying in this temple game. :roll:

The team temple game was quick, so I don't think I need to say much here about it

Some people might think Tarrah's temple score it too high, but I think she did a good job considering the circumstances she went through. I mean she had to complete seven rooms on her own on the way to the artifact, plus her short stature gave her some trouble in some rooms like the Jester's Court. But she wasn't entirely slow like Jennifer from "Buddha" was. And I have to give her credits for bringing back that huge artifact to the temple gates after taking a nasty hit in the Pit. She was a real trooper in the run and it was a well-deserved solo win. She did just fine with her layout and not every contestant has to be a Gator or Zac to be good.

Overall, great episode and easily the best episode during this production day. Did anyone else notice that during the team temple game, they had to place a "stone marker" on the platform? And one of the earlier episodes of Legends was "The Stone Marker of Leif Erickson". And Leif Erickson was suppose to be related to Freydis. I wonder if the producers made this reference intentional? Would've been awesome if they actually used the real Stone Marker from the "Stone Marker" episode. :mrred:

THE GOLDEN EARRING OF HENRY MORGAN

Ashley
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 8.5
Team Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7.8

Shem
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 7.5
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: 9
Overall: 8.2

Shannon
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 4
Team Game: 8
Overall: 6.88

Raymond
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 7.5
Overall: 8.13

NOTES:
Another good episode! Rewatching this episode brings back memories on why I love this episode. Shem and Ashley were a very exciting team to watch in the episode, and Shem was a funny guy too like when he rubbed Kirk's head during the tiebreaker win. :P

Nothing to say much about this episode, the numbers can do most of the talking. Ashley and Shem were very good in the first two rounds, and the Orange Iguanas were strong also.

I swear if I see that swinging obstacle temple game again I am going to cry! :cry: But Ashley did the best job so far at this temple game, and almost brought back all pieces of her map. Was the Orange Iguana girl mentally challenged though? I mean really, she delayed at the beginning of the temple game and she made no effort to dodge the swinging obstacles. :roll:

The second temle game was very close and both male contestants were great. I gave them both good scores because they both put up a good effort collecting the bags of gold. Of course, Shem won in the end due to his load being heavier.

The last temple game was also close. It looked like the game could've almost ended in a tie! The main problem for the Silver Snakes was that it looked like their buggy stalled while turning it around. Otherwise, I think they would've tied it or even won. But at least they got the tiebreaker correct and went to the temple because at the end of the day I thought they were a better team.

The temple run was a very exciting loss despite the ending. Ashley was fast, but she made a very critical mistake of not using the key in the Dark Forest when she found it. She could've had a solo win if they had done so. Shem was also very fast, but he did miss the Room of the Mandarin Hand door from the King's Storeroom. But the team was still excited to even reach the artifact, so it was good enough for me. :mrsilver:

Overall, this episode was a classic and it was my second favorite of this set.

THE MISSING WEATHER MAPS OF CHARLES LINDBERGH

Kim
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 6.5
Temple Run: 2
Overall: 6.5

Nick
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7.5
Temple Run: 8.5
Overall: 7.80

Kim
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.75

David
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.25

NOTES:
After three good episodes, we get this abomination of an episode. Well, it was an okay episode up until the temple run but pretty uneventful though.

I have to give Red Jaguars Kim credit for the temple games. She got two answers correct without Olmec revealing all three choices. Also, I noticed one of Kirk's quotes were "Suddenly, the Jaguars are one step away from the temple guards" during the temple games. :lol:

Not much to say about the temple games, the Jaguars swept them. Jaguars Kim did great in her temple game and destroy the other Kim 15-9. Nick also won his temple game, although the Orange Iguana boy was pretty competitive also.

Temple run... don't even get me started on this one. Nick was great in the temple! He wasted a little time at the beginning of the run due to encountering a deadend, but he really hauled ass after the Crypt. He made it TWO rooms away from the Dark Forest with about two minutes left. One would think that this would be enough time for Kim to reach the artifact and bring it out, right? Wrong, this girl was a lost cause. She wasted time looking clueless in rooms with completed objectives and kept backtracking to unentered rooms like the Observatory. She was also slow as hell and even when she completes the Shrine of the Silver Monkey... SHE RUNS PAST THE DARK FOREST! :roll: This would've been a Dark Forest win if Kim was not so awful.

Looking at the Red Jaguars rankings, there is no reason why this team shouldn't have won. What happened to Kim? She was doing great before the temple, but she really blew her load once she got there. This would've been a legendary victory had she got her act together.
 
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 05, 2012, 02:36:56 AM
What a coincidence that I was just thinking about this thread and if you were gonna do another set sometime soon. And sure enough, you end up doing another set. :lol: Anyways, my thoughts on all the rankings:

The Golden Pepperoni episode is actually really good. You're totally right about the Purple Parrots and the Green Monkeys being neck and neck the entire episode. They were one and two in the moat, nearly double swept the steps, with the Parrots winning a close match of 1.5-1. The temple run is sort of disappointing, but still very memorable nonetheless. I didn't think Aqila was THAT bad, but she did move too slowly, and we all know what happened at the end. Chris definitely should have gone in second though. He was pretty fast in the short time he was in the temple.

By the way, you sort of got the production order wrong. Henry Morgan was second, and Freydis was third. ;) Speaking of the former....

Henry Morgan is an excellent episode, even though Nick Gas overplayed this one during that 20 episode cycle. Not much else to say about this episode except Ashley and Shem were a pretty strong team, and Raymond wasn't half bad either. Shannon sort of sucked, and she definitely brought the team down. And you're right about the "swinging obstacle" game being way overused on this production day. Fun game, but lets switch up the variety once in a while, production crew. The temple run was great. Ashley did well despite her not taking shortcuts, and Shem was fast. And great enthusiasm at the end too.

Freydis is another awesome episode. It featured yet another almost double sweep on the steps, and Parrots were especially smart. And I agree about the female Silver Snake in her temple game. She was just PATHETIC. Seriously, I lost count on how many times she touched the ground and had to start over. It's a miracle she even got one bell up, if that. Tarrah did lightyears better than her, and she's shorter too. As for the temple run, solid performance. Now, I get that this is like an exact replica of the "Buddha" temple run, but this one was more exciting. For many reasons.... Tarrah had more objectives, rarely hesitated, and not to mention her run had a memorable ending. From jumping across the pit and breaking the bucket, to finishing off with a nail biter with one second left. No wonder she was so exhausted after her run was over. I love this episode, her solo win was definitely deserved.

And finally.... we get an atrocity of an episode after three very exciting episodes. The Missing Weather Maps. I've only seen the full episode of this once, and I don't plan on watching it again anytime soon. Skipping to the temple run, Nick was great, but Kim was pathetic. yet another episode that should have been reverse order of players. My guess is if Kim had went in first, she'd probably make it to the King's Storeroom with about 1:30 on the clock. And Nick would have raced in, reached the artifact, and possibly escaped with a close finish? Either way, there's no excuse why this team shouldn't have won. They could have made Legends history by reaching the artifact in the Dark Forest for the first time ever. But instead, Kim blew it, big time. -_-

Like always, great rankings. Maybe you should do the "Annie Taylor" or "Ahmed Baba" filming day next. But, it's up to you of course.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 05, 2012, 03:12:01 AM
Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it as always. ;)

"Golden Pepperoni" was always a good episode to me, even when Nick GaS showed it all the time. It had some close and competitive rounds and had a good set of temple games also. And I agree, I never thought of Aqila as a terrible player. I mean she was an idiot for passing up the Pepperoni, but she was fine before entering the Room of the Secret Password. She grabs the half-pendant and completes a few objectives on her own. There are far worse contestants than her, one of whom I am about to talk about in a minute. Although "The Great Linguini" deserves a mention here for being a ridiculously stupid name. :roll:

I never realized I got the episode order mixed up too. When I was watching the episodes on Youtube, I searched them with the "Suggested Video" bar. So "Freydis" was the video that popped up first, so I assumed that was the next one. At least it was the same production day though. :mrpurple:

And I for one don't understand the comparisons between the "Freydis" and "Buddha" temple run either. I mean they both had the same path and both of them went the wrong way in the temple, but "Freydis" was more exciting than "Buddha". No offense to that temple run, but I would take Freydis any day over it.

And yeah, don't try watching the "Charles Lindbergh" temple run anytime soon. That episode was pretty uneventful even though the Red Jaguars were strong prior to the temple. And there was no way this team probably would've won period in the temple due to Kim. Had she went in first, she probably would've used up too much time. But then again, there would be no cleared out rooms for her, so maybe she wouldn't have been too stupid? In any case, if she was taken out in the King's Storeroom with 1:30 on the clock Nick would've won it for sure. Still an unexciting episode though.

And I like your suggestions for the next set. I think I will go with "Annie Taylor" production day because I need one that has a good set of episodes.

Atocha/Emiliano Zapata/Benjamin Franklin/Annie Taylor... now that is a great production day. We all know which episode was a sore thumb that day, but I still think "Benjamin Franklin" was an exciting episode nevertheless. :mrblue:

I am not really a fan of the "Ahmed Baba" episodes. "Ahmed Baba" is boring and I never cared for that episode, "Iron Nose Ring" was okay also but I definitely don't care for the temple run, "Ivory Elephant" is just forgettable, and don't get me started on "Sultan Suleiman". :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 05, 2012, 03:39:39 PM
Sultan Suleiman wasn't on Tall Turban's filming day. The Missing Eye was on that day. It goes Missing Eye/Iron Nose Ring/Ahmed Baba/Ivory Elephant. Then the following filming day is Sultan Suleiman/Cosa Rara/Montezeuma/Lost Lion Tail. Just for a future reference in case you do end up ranking those filming days. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 09, 2013, 11:14:57 PM
This seriously needs to be started up again. And I'm gonna do the "Applewood Amulet" filming day:

THE LUCKY MEDALLION OF ATOCHA

Ty:
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 10
Team Game: 8
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 8.65

Jennifer:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 7.25

Erica:
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7
Overall: 6.5

Chad:
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Game: 4
Team Game: 7
Overall: 5.25

NOTES
This episode was great. The only round I truly thought was less than impressive was the moat. It was so long that the mist disappeared just before the 4th team rang in. Ty was a beast in the moat, and Jennifer did a good job as well. The Red Jaguars sucked though, and took forever crossing. The Green Monkeys also sucked, but they got one player across at the end. The Silver Snakes were ABYSMAL during the moat. They couldn't even get one person across. I'm glad they didn't advance.

The Steps of Knowledge were a pretty average round. Erica was a beast on the Steps, as was Jennifer. The temple games were very exciting. Ty OWNED his temple game. He only needed 20 seconds or so to climb that wall, and taking the middle road did wonders for him. Chad sucked, and it looked like he didn't want to be on the show. He looked down and sad the entire time. In the second temple game, Erica got a low score because she fell off the horse pretty quickly. Not as bad as the female Green Monkey from "Cracked Crown," but still pretty subpar. The third temple game was so close. Jennifer kept dropping her bags, so that's why her score was a little lower than the rest. In the end, the Red Jaguars came from behind and tied the game up. But, Ty rang in correctly with the tiebreaker so the Orange Iguanas still went to the temple.

And the temple run was solid. Even after Ty dropped his pendant, he recovered quickly and blazed through the whole temple. The only points I took off was Ty doing the Viper's Nest objective when he didn't have to. But that does not derail from his progress so it wasn't too distracting. He grabs the Lucky Medallion was under a minute left on the clock, and escaped with 8 seconds to spare. I love Jennifer's enthusiasm throughout the run and she was very supportive of Ty from the sidelines. Also, regarding the pendant dropping, Jennifer DID NOT throw it back to Ty. It was a camera guy. Not only was the hand not gloved, but if you look carefully at the 2:31 mark of the temple run, you can clearly see a camera guy exiting the Pit of Despair. I realize the pendant was thrown back in the Ledges and not the Pit, but I assume the camera guy was standing in nearly the same spot. So it had to be a camera guy. Other than that, great solo win! It's literally the only male solo victory I'm impressed with.

THE APPLEWOOD AMULET OF EMILIANO ZAPATA

Robert:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7

Olivia-Emma:
Moat: 10
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 8
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 8.85

Simone:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 8
Overall: 7.5

Jason:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Overall: 6.75

NOTES:
Another excellent episode! This moat seemed to take a long time too. The mist was completely gone when the camera panned over to the Purple Parrots after the moat. And yes, those Blue Barracudas who "broke" the gong were Janet and Chris from "The Priceless Portrait of the Polynesian Girl." For the Steps of Knowledge, the Silver Snakes naturally take the Blue Barracudas place. And they do answer at least two questions correctly. I don't understand why people say "they didn't even answer one question."

The temple games were VERY close and neck and neck. But really, the Purple Parrots and the Green Monkeys were neck and neck all episode. They were 1 and 2 in the moat, very smart on the Steps of Knowledge, and tied the temple games with 1.5 pendants. Speaking of which, the third temple game was just impressive. NONE of the four players fell off the horse. Though Robert was starting to falter a little at the end. I also love how when the game is over, Kirk sounds like he's saying "Oh shit, he's tired!" XD In the end, Olivia-Emma gets the tiebreaker right and they go to the temple! Recording yet another tiebreaker loss for the Purple Parrots. :( I wouldn't change the results for anything though, I just wish both teams would've gone to the temple.

And the temple run was great. Their layout wasn't particularly hard, but the rooms were the hardest the show had to offer at the time. Robert goes in and he does a decent job. He gets removed by two consecutive temple guards in Medusa's Lair and the King's Storeroom, and Olivia-Emma takes over. She passes up the half pendant, but it doesn't affect the outcome, and I assume temple guard was in the Crypt. She gets to the Viper's Nest, has trouble finding the Amulet, but she grabs it and blazes out of the temple. The ending was such a nailbiter, she wins with literally one second left on the clock. Recording by far the closest finish in the show's history. Both Robert and Olivia Emma were so excited, and so was Kirk. Solid.

THE ELECTRIFIED KEY OF BENJAMIN FRANKLIN

Peter:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.6

Michelle:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.1

Ronnie:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Tiebreaker: -1
Overall: 6.3

Margaret:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Overall: 6.5

NOTES:
This episode was okay. It's clearly the weakest link out of the other three episodes though. The moat was decent, not as long as the other two. The Green Monkeys were pretty fast crossing it, the Blue Barracudas did decently. They did finish last though. The Steps of Knowledge annoyed me. It seemed like EVERY team (minus the Blue Barracudas) were answering in too early. The Green Monkeys were the worst for it, especially with the last question they got right. Even Kirk had to tell them "you might want to hear all the answers before you come up with your own." :roll:

The temple games were pretty competitive. Michelle and Margaret were pretty neck and neck all game. Ronnie sucked in his game though. He hardly got off the ground before Peter flew down on the above kite. The third game, not much else to say except the Green Monkeys came from behind and tied the game up. Of course, we all know what happened at the tiebreaker. "AMBASSADOR! AMBASSADOR! AMBASSADOR!" I just love how Ronnie hangs his head in shame when he gets the question wrong. And he does it when the Blue Barracudas steal the answer and win. Margaret looks equally as embarrassed. I also love how Kirk says "We got a good shot of that, didn't we?" when it's just the Blue Barracudas in shot. Kind of like how he's rubbing it in to the Green Monkeys that they lost. That's what you get for ringing in too early and trying too hard to make a comeback.

The temple run was sort of disappointing. Could've been a legendary solo win if Peter didn't set foot in Medusa's Lair. And he should know that the Pit/Throne Room door is a little too obvious. -_- Michelle did well, she almost pulled a "Harriet Tubman" but thankfully changed her mind at the last second. Good thing, since I'm pretty sure the third temple guard was in the Crypt. And it would've been another "Golden Ship" esque time if she had actually gone in there. Michelle smartly avoids Medusa's Lair, but when she's done assembling the monkey, she doesn't take the Shrine/Forest passage. Which would've saved some time. She gets to the Swamp, where just as she opens the Throne Room door, time runs out. I definitely blame Peter for this loss more than I do Michelle. It could've been a legendary bottom central shaft win (and a 4 on 4 day) if he didn't take the direct path.

THE LUCKY PILLOW OF ANNIE TAYLOR

Missy:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: N/A (She had the squirting/luck based game, so I can't really score that)
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7.5

John:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 7

Stuart:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: N/A (Again, he had the squirting game, so I can't score it)
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.7

Jamea:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Overall: 6.5

NOTES
This episode was just phenomenal from start to finish. The Blue Barracudas got across pretty quickly, the Purple Parrots took some time getting across though. The Silver Snakes on the other hand, were just terrible in the moat. They didn't even get their first person across before the round was over. The Steps of Knowledge were over in 7 questions due to a near double sweep between the Purple Parrots and the Blue Barracudas.

The temple games were very exciting, and I loved the temple game sequence used here. John struggled in his temple game, so his score is pretty low. The squirting game Missy didn't wasn't scored because that's a luck based game. I love how she kept on getting squirted though. :lol: In the third temple game, the Blue Barracudas came from behind and won the game fair and square. And we all know about this tiebreaker as well. The infamous boob grab seen around the world. :kiss: Of course, this means the Purple Parrots choke at the tiebreaker AGAIN. But just like with the Applewood Amulet episode, I wish both teams would've gone to the temple.

If I had to pick a best temple run of all time, it would be this one. This or Lost Hornpipe, it's hard to choose. Missy was flawless, I know giving her a 7 for the temple run might be too low, but I figured it was suitable. Her layout wasn't exactly hard, but she didn't just luck into it. She made it easy for herself. Taking the Forest/Shrine passage really paid off, and it showed here. I assume the other two temple guards were in the Crypt and the Mine Shaft. Either way, she knew exactly what to do in every room and she even grabbed the Lucky Pillow with 42 seconds to go. The audience was going nuts, John was extremely supportive on the sidelines, and Missy finally escapes with 21 seconds left on the clock. Everyone was so excited, especially Missy. So was such a nervous wreck throughout the show. Their trip to the Bahamas so VERY well earned. Excellent temple run, she deserved it.

One thing I'd like to note is that, I don't understand the hate for Missy at all. So what if her layout wasn't hard, so what if she wasn't Jarrid or Gator fast. One of my biggest pet peeves is that people seem to think that you need to be fast in order to deserve the win. I don't understand how  Missy is considered a bad player just because she was slower than other players. That doesn't mean it was a terrible temple run and she didn't deserve it. Plus, I hate how people give Missy a hard time also because "she tried for a direct path." I mean yes, Peter got flak for trying that same thing. But he kept on trying it throughout his whole run. Missy just did it once. I think people just like to pick a reason to not like this run just for the sake of hating a temple run that everyone else loves. I mean, Paula gets a cakewalk temple layout and she gets a free pass for it. Just because "she was fast." But when Missy tries for a direct path and moves slower, she's automatically a bad player?

Overall, this was an excellent filming day and besides Electrified Key, all the temple runs were solid. Also, I ranked Applewood Amulet and Lucky Pillow from memory, since I've seen those episodes numerous times. So if my rankings are inaccurate, feel free to let me know. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 09, 2013, 11:57:15 PM
I get to comment on one of your rankings for once and not the other way around. :P You picked a great day though as I love all of those episodes, even Benjamin Franklin. ;)

ATOCHA:
Atocha was the second best episode that day IMO. The moat was kind of long for this episode, but everything else was great.  Ty and Jennifer were a great team, but the rankings show that Ty was the stronger player. I think that is how my rankings for him turned out IIRC. I do remember the individual temple game performance by Ty being dominating. Jennifer was also pretty good at her temple game. They were so close to a temple game sweep also. Luckily, they won their tiebreaker though and went to the temple.

And I probably would've given Ty a 9 in the temple. Pendant dropping aside, he was great and he is a perfect example of why you should never take the direct path. He could've even had a no temple guard run had he started in the Crypt. I don't hold the Pendant drop against him, it was probably an honest mistake. I am not sure why he completed the Viper's Nest though. Although I remember deducing him for that too in my rankings. Overall, he kicked ass and was one of the best males on the show. And Jennifer definitely didn't throw the Pendant back to him either. That was some lame editing by the producers. Wasn't this part dubbed over? :o

EMILIANO ZAPATA:
This was my third favorite episode that day. Just like Atocha, it was Olivia-Emma that carried this team more. I think she ranked in the same range in my old rankings too. She kicked ass in the moat and pretty much did all the work in her episode. And yes, the Blue Barracudas in this episode did get replaced because the Silver Snakes were sent back by accident. We will see them again later in the "Polynesian Girl" episode, and it was probably a better experience for them in that episode.

I do remember how strong all four players were in the horse spinning game. Maybe the Green Monkey girl from "Cracked Crown" should've taken notes. In the end, we had another tiebreaker with Olivia-Emma answering it correctly. The temple run was very exciting and the team did fine even with an easy layout. Well, it wasn't as easy as people make it out to be. They had to enter the toughest room that S1L2 had to offer. Olivia-Emma was the star of this run though and she used every second to her advantage. She hauled ass to get out of the temple and this is how some players like Jason (Icarus) and Angela SHOULD'VE exited the temple instead of running all over it. Missing the half-pendant could've been fatal, but it didn't matter in the end because she still pulled a victory off. I guess that experience on "Get the Picture" paid off for her.  :mrgreen:

BENJAMIN FRANKLIN:
This episode is the odd man out compared to the other three, but I still enjoyed it very much. Judging from your rankings, it seems like the Green Monkeys were still a competitive team besides the screw job they did. The Blue Barracudas barely made it across the moat in time. It kind of reminds me of the Barracudas in "The Silk Sash of Mulan". The Steps of Knowledge had the annoying Green Monkey boy answering early. Luckily, the Blue Barracudas were strong here and finished first. The Green Monkeys finished not to far behind.

The temple games had the giant Pendant spinning one in which Michelle won and Peter did good in his game. For some reason, I always thought that Peter and Michelle only won their team game. I am not sure why I thought that though. But they did lose the team game instead though. The tiebreaker is probably one of the biggest fails on the show. The Green Monkey boy didn't even answer one of the three choices of the tiebreaker. Michelle did the right thing and wait until Olmec finished reading her the choices. They got it right and went to the temple. They deserved it over that Green Monkey choke job.

The temple run was pretty exciting IMO. I am not sure why some people hate it. Peter's biggest mistake was beelining for the direct path twice. I know Missy will do it in the next episode, but it hurt Peter in this run. He would've had a solo win if he just didn't enter Medusa's Lair. Michelle was kind of slower than Peter, but she also was a little smarter. She avoided Medusa's Lair altogether and had one of the fastest King's Storeroom completions ever. She missed the Dark Forest shortcut though, which probably would've saved her time and give her a legitimate shot at reaching the Electrified Key. The team fell short in the end due to Peter's screw up. I agree with the scores given to both runners, since both had some redeeming qualities that the other partner lacked.

ANNIE TAYLOR:
And we save the best episode for last!   :mrblue:

Some people seem to think that Missy and John barely scraped by the whole episode. Maybe that is because they came back in their team game, but all the other rounds were close competition. And it was very exciting too. The Purple Parrots and Blue Barracudas were neck and neck throughout the day.

I am kind of unsure about your rankings for Jamea/John's temple game. From what I recall, didn't Jamea barely beat John in that game? I mean she barely inched out against him. You would think a strong guy like John would've beat a girl handily though. But you did the exact same thing as I did for Missy's temple game. It was a totally lucked based game, so where was no strategy involved at all. Excluding this game could be a good or bad thing because it would either make the player look better or look worse. I think it kind've hurts Missy score because we don't see her potential due to the luck-based factor in it. The team game was an amazing comeback though and the Blue Barracudas were behind but managed to pull it off. They answered the tiebreaker with some tit grabbing on the side and went to the temple.

I actually would've given Missy an 8-8.5 in the temple. She did a great job and didn't really do anything wrong. She did have a lucky temple guard placement, but she also smartly avoided them by taking the Dark Forest shortcut. So in a way, her strategy helped her avoid one. She moved at a good pace also and finished with plenty of time left. Her layout wasn't that easy either: Shrine, Dark Forest, King's Storeroom weren't the easiest objectives. Amazing win and one of the best ever on the show. Missy owned.  :barracudas2:  :barracudas1:

FINAL VERDICT:
This was my most favorite production day on the show. Either this one, or the Benzibab/Sforza one. I like this one better though since 3/4 of these episodes were classics. If I had to rank the episodes, it would go:

Annie Taylor > Atocha > Emiliano Zapata > Benjamin Franklin
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 10, 2013, 12:12:44 AM
And now I am really tempted to do the Golden Cricket Cage day as my next project. I am reading THK's rankings and I just don't agree with them at all. John getting a 3 in the temple? No way, he deserves a 1.

And then Jennifer (Map to the Lost Gold Mine) has a 6. And both Gabby and Joe get a 6 to. How does that even work? Gabby and Joe were so slow and didn't even last long. Not that it was their fault, but those rankings just make no sense. Especially giving Jennifer the same score as those two.

And why does Damian have a 0 in the Steps? That really makes him look worse than he actually did. Someone even was surprised that Damian finished with such a low score. The Barracudas were first in the moat, steps, won two pendant in the temple games, and even won the temple run. There is no way that they be ranked that low.

Sorry Poseidon and Red Sash, but I think I want to do the Cricket Cage/Lost Hammer/Golden Ship/Map to the Lost Gold Mine day next.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 10, 2013, 02:23:34 AM
Yes, the tables have turned. :lol: This was a pretty daunting list to tackle.

As for John and Jamea's game, I remember Jamea being much more ahead in the rock climbing game than John was. I mean, if you look at the 25-56 mark of the game, you'll notice how much further along Jamea is. Maybe giving her an 8 was a little too generous though. And yeah, I really couldn't rank Missy and Stuart's game. Perhaps if it were the memory variation of it (like in "Sacred Ring" and "Ali Baba"), I would've given a score. But when it's luck based, there's really nothing you can do. And I was thinking of giving Missy an 8 for the temple run. Aside from moving at an average pace, she knew exactly what to do in every room. As far as how I'd rank the episodes on this day, it would probably go like this:

Annie Taylor > Emiliano Zapata > Atocha > Benjamin Franklin

But really, they were all exciting episodes. Even Benjamin Franklin, even though the outcome was disappointing.

And I completely agree with you on THK's rankings of the S1L2 filming day. Sorry, but despite the fact that he started these rankings in the first place, his rankings were just plain ridiculous. He was way too unfair and harsh with Damian's ranking. How does he deserve a 3 for the Steps of Knowledge? It's not like he continuously rang in with the wrong answer. You can't expect a team to sweep the steps every single episode. Not every team is like Matt from "Silver Horseshoe" of the Silver Snakes from "Icarus." Just because you don't ring in with an answer, doesn't make you stupid. Sometimes it's planned that way with their team. Not to mention, more than half his Steps of Knowledge scores for contestants ranged from 1-3. I know some people are just smart, and things just come naturally to them. But you can't expect every single contestant to know the answer within 2 seconds. That's just expecting too much from the players. And I also never understood how Jennifer AND both Golden Ship kids got a 6 for the temple run. Jennifer did a much better job, and moved much faster than Gabby and Joe out together. I don't understand the hate for John Sutter either. The Blue Barracudas were first in the moat, first in the Steps of Knowledge, won 2 pendants in the temple games, and won. I like it when a team dominates everything. And that's exactly what Damian and Jennifer did here. They did a great job and they totally deserved their win. Just like with Lucky Pillow, I have a feeling John Sutter gets ragged on just because everyone else likes it. :?

Good luck with your rankings on the S1L2 filming day though. Considering the runs on this day, you're probably gonna need it.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 10, 2013, 12:09:54 PM
I don't remember John's temple game myself, but it is possible I am not remembering it correctly. Either way, he still lost to a girl. :o I don't hold Missy's temple game lost against her since it was pure luck like you mentioned. Although she did have terrible luck IIRC and got squirted the whole time. :lol:

And yeah, the Cricket Cage will be kind of painful to review. But it will be interesting also since I haven't seen 3 of those episodes in ages. Golden Ship isn't too bad either, with the temple game goof and temple run will be easy to evaluate due to how short it was. And at least Map to the Lost Gold Mine is at the very end.

And I am not sure why "Map to the Lost Gold Mine" gets picked on. It seems like that one and Annie Taylor get picked on the most. I guess it does have to do with the popularity of the episodes. People use to do that with "Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress" and use to call David just average. I don't see anyone pick on that run much anymore, thankfully. :P
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 25, 2013, 10:59:06 PM
To continue with this thread, I'm going to do the Harriet Tubman/Dr. Livingstone filming day:

THE WALKING STICK OF HARRIET TUBMAN

Chris:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.8

Ryann:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 3
Overall: 6.2

James:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 8
Overall: 8

Erica:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.25

NOTES:

Well, what do you know? James of the Blue Barracudas ranks by FAR the highest out of the four players here. And he didn't even make it to the temple! And he was a beast during the Steps of Knowledge. He answered all three questions before the choices were even revealed. But then again, just about all of the teams did this. Fortunately, they weren't as obnoxious about it as they were in the "Electrified Key" episode. Chris ranked pretty high too, not getting anything lower than a 6. As for the episode itself, it's still a decent episode despite the temple run. The temple games were pretty competitive, and I liked the sequence they used. I especially liked the creativity of the second temple game. Where the guys have to stick the mini walking sticks on the cubes, while avoiding the swinging obstacles. All while wearing brown/colored velcro shirts. I don't think I've ever seen a temple game with that objective before. It was a close match, but Chris just barely edged out James at the last second. In the third temple game, James did great catching the balls, but Erica sucked slinging them over to him. Chris and Ryann had little to no trouble, and thus won the temple game and a trip to the temple!

The temple run unfortunately, is pretty disappointing. One thing I'd like to make note of is the Forest/Shrine passage was ALWAYS open. Even during the temple rundown, both doors were open the entire time. So I suppose that's what added to Chris' confusion. I still had to dock off points though, because he wasted unnecessary time in the Dark Forest. And we all know about Ryann. I figured giving her a "1" for the temple run would be a little harsh, since she really didn't last long at all. But still, you should always follow your partner's path with less than 2 pendants. I figure giving her a "3" for the temple run would be fitting, since she blew it, big time. If Chris hadn't wasted time in the Dark Forest, the team probably would've beaten Golden Ship's quickest loss record. Regardless, it was still the quickest loss of Season 2, and the third overall quickest loss in the shows history. Overall, this was a pretty good episode besides the temple run. It does feature a rare Blue vs. Orange pair, and the temple games were competitive. What really drags it down was Ryann's choke job in the Crypt.

THE LOST LOVE LETTER OF CAPTAIN JOHN SMITH

Derrick:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.45

Whitney:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.2

Tatyana:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

George:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

NOTES:

Just an average episode here. Derrick was clearly the strongest player out of the four. The rest were just average. The temple games, like Harriet Tubman, featured a unique sequence and were pretty competitive. Derrick did great in his game, while George struggled. The temple games came down to a tiebreaker, where Derrick rang in correctly and won. The temple run wasn't that exciting. I gave Whitney a rather low score because she moved much too slowly. And there was no excuse whatsoever to pass up that half pendant. It's not THAT hard to spot a half pendant on the inactive King's Storeroom actuator. Though with a mere 26 seconds left on the clock, even if she did grab the half pendant, I doubt she would've reached the Lost Love Letter. Not much else to note except that Whitney is one of two contestants (the other being Tony from the "Stone Head" episode), to assemble the four snake Medusa's Lair. The only difference is, Whitney's completion wasn't an epic fail like Tony's attempt was.

THE DIARY OF DR. LIVINGSTONE

Tabitha:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: N/A
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.75

Brett:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.2

Adrianne:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: N/A
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.7

Sean:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 5.75

NOTES:

Yet another average episode. Nothing really stood out except for the temple games, which is the only episode in Season 2 where all four players had to wear their windbreaker jackets for the wet temple games. I did not score the girls for the squirting game. Since like "Lucky Pillow," it was luck based and therefore I couldn't score it. It's kind of funny how "Bagdad" was spelled incorrectly too. The second temple game is by far the quickest temple game I have ever seen. It only took Brett around 7 seconds to put a jewel on the hood of the spitting animal head. It would've given him a 10, but since it was only one jewel he needed, I only knocked him down to a "9." To me, the second game was way too easy. But in defense, it had to have been the first time the spitting animal head game was used. So naturally, the game was made harder in the other episodes it was used in. In the third game, it could've been a tie. But, Brett knocked off one of the balls on the wall, and it wasn't counted against him. Nonetheless, the Blue Barracudas were gonna go to the temple with 2 pendants. And the temple run was just unexciting. I get it was the exact same layout as "Metal Beard," but it's hard to get into a run where the players are just average at best. The only thing I can remember about this run is Brett's detours into every single room of the temple. Which is the very same thing Randy did in the "Metal Beard" temple run. But, I suppose it's a better run than the previous two triple captures before it.

THE BONE NECKLACE OF THE BLACKFEET CHIEF

Leah:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.6

Brandon:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7.4

Holly:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.75

Jay:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Overall: 6.5

NOTES:

Out of all the episodes on this filming day, this is probably my favorite. Even though this episode is on the average side as well. The moat was okay, the Purple Parrots moved pretty slowly. The Silver Snakes fell in the moat, giving the Parrots the opening they needed. During the Steps of Knowledge, both Brandon and Holly were great with the buzzer for their respective teams. Neither Leah or Jay attempted to ring in, but I refuse to give someone a "1" for not giving any response. For the temple games, the Purple Parrots were VERY strong, and managed to beat the Red Jaguars in the temple games 2-1. Marking the only time Purple ever beats Red in the temple games. And trust me, there were A LOT of episodes that would've been better if Purple had beat Red more often. The temple run was pretty average. The problem was: speed. Leah was a painfully slow runner. I know it seems like a contradiction to give her a "6" but Whitney a "5," but I just felt like Leah was a stronger player. Brandon moved a tad faster than Leah, and even assembled the monkey in pretty quick time. So I gave him an extra point there. And he grabbed the Bone Necklace with 12 seconds to go. On his way out, he went into Medusa's Lair, and down into the Throne Room, where time ran out. During Brandon's descent into the Throne Room, the Throne wall rotated, which is one out of the two times the wall rotates counterclockwise. The other episode being "The Luck Medallion of Atocha." Either way, this is the last of two episodes (the other being "King Tut's Cobra Staff") where the Purple Parrots reach an artifact, but don't bring it out. If these players had moved faster, this would've been a win for sure.

Overall, this was an average filming day. There's no amazing episode, but there's no terrible episode either. It's also worth noting that on this filming day, Orange beat Blue, Blue beat Purple, Purple beat Red, and Red beat Orange in the temple games. Making for a curricular rotation of which team made it to the temple games, and which team got beat. Also, I should note that I did "Dr. Livingstone's" rankings from memory, so if my rankings for that episode are inaccurate, feel free to correct me. The rest I've seen pretty recently, with Harriet Tubman I've seen today, so those rankings should be just fine.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 25, 2013, 11:46:07 PM
Awesome choice for a production day. No one has really reviewed any of these episodes yet. I remember I did Blackfeet Chief along time ago, and your score was about the same as mine for Leah and Brandon. Here is how I see it:

HARRIET TUBMAN:
It's always fun to watch when a contestant answers a question in the Steps before Olmec reveals any of the answers. But getting three in a row without Olmec revealing a single answer? Give this guy a medal. The Blue Barracuda boy was definitely attentive throughout the legend. Or maybe he knew Harriet Tubman well from school? But yeah, Harriet Tubman had some creative rounds before the temple run. Like the one where they had to climb the vines and punch the cubby holes. That one was hardly used in S2. And of course, we had the rate Orange/Blue temple games.

Man, that temple run was painful to watch though. Chris did pretty good in the temple, aside from trying the direct path to the Walking Stick. He made it to the Shrine with 1:30 for Ryann to work with. Unfortunately, her run ended in the Crypt and she only lasted like 4 seconds in the temple. :roll: Talk about inattentive. But I agree, I don't think she deserves a 1 either. She never really got a chance to prove herself. For all we know, she could've been an Elisa or Jessica. Too bad though that it ended this way. But that's why you should always follow your partner's path.

CAPTAIN JOHN SMITH:
Here is an episode I reviewed in my Episode Ranking thread. The episode was decent IMO, but it wasn't anything special. I liked how the legend talked about the real story behind Pocahontas. The temple games were close, and I liked the one where Whitney and the Orange Iguana girl climbed up the vines and found ears of corn to put on the scale (like the game used in "Harriet Tubman". The Red Jaguars finally win a legit tiebreaker (unlike Alhambra :roll:). The temple run kind of sucks, but they wouldn't have won if Whitney found her half-pendant. The only real notable thing was that Whitney had to put four snakes into Medusa's head. She didn't struggle as long as Tony did, but she still lasted a long time in that room. And your right, she should've saw that half-pendant. But I doubt she would've reached the Dark Forest with that pace she was moving at.

DR. LIVINGSTONE:
This episode was pretty average despite the team winning. It seems like Brett was the better player through according to your rankings. It's been a while since I have seen this episode, but I do remember the quick temple games. Brett's temple game completion was pretty insane also. But I am surprised that the producers only allowed one jewel. Tabitha's game was lucked-based, so there was no real way to rank her. Too bad as it kind of brings her score down. The temple win was average and pretty boring. Tabitha moved slow and the only real objective they had to complete was the Viper's Nest. Brett got lucky with his temple exit also. I am not sure why he took such an unusual way out of the temple. "Egyptian Queen" is much more exciting because at least TJ and Randy were fast and that one came down to the wire. This one made you wonder if they will make it past the finish line. It was a decent episode and better than the above two, but there are better episodes and wins on the show.

BLACKFEET CHIEF:
I agree, this is also my favorite episode from this production day. I do remember the moat for the Purple Parrots barely making pass it. But they turned it around and dominated the later rounds. Brandon was particularly good at the Steps of Knowledge. I also love the faces he makes throughout the whole episode. :lol: The temple games were pretty much in favor of Steve and Leah. This was the only time the Purple Parrots beat the Red Jaguars. And I agree, the Purple Parrots would've done better in some episodes for Purple/Red (Golden Ship and Frederick Douglass comes to mind.) The temple run was kind of boring due to the player's speeds, but it wasn't a bad one at all. Leah was so damn slow though. Don't these players know that they are racing against the clock? Good thing she got taken out in the Dark Forest. Brandon was slightly faster and he had one of the fastest Silver Monkey completions on the show. He even grabbed the Bone Necklace and made it to the Pit with it before time ran out. They didn't win at the end due to Leah's slow speed and Steve's awkward exit plan. Other than that, this was a good episode and it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

Overall, I think I would rank the production day like this:
Blackfeet Chief > Dr. Livingstone > Harriet Tubman > Captain John Smith
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 26, 2013, 12:48:56 AM
First of all, it's Brandon, not Steve. ;)

But yeah, the Blue Barracuda boy from "Harriet Tubman" was amazing. He did better than those teams who actually swept the Steps of Knowledge. As for the girls temple game, the one with the net and cubby holes was used A LOT in Season 2. And also in Season 3, so it's really not an uncommon game at all. And yeah, I remember your episode review for the Lost Love Letter episode. It ranked pretty well actually, but the temple run brought it down. As for Dr. Livingstone, Brett was definitely the stronger player. It seems like there was at least ONE strong player in each of the four episodes on this day. But even then, the win was just not exciting. And Bone Necklace was definitely the strongest episode of the day. It's pretty much the only Red vs. Purple episode I even like. The rest are either boring, or just suck. Though I disagree about Golden Ship being a better run if Purple won instead. Yes, Joe and Gabby lost in the quickest time ever, and Purple would've won 2 pendants in the temple games. But it's not like either team was impressive anyways. Smashed Printing Plate, Nzinga, and maybe Golden Goblet, definitely would've been better if Purple won instead.

By the way, are you still gonna do rankings for the Cricket Cage/John Sutter filming day? I'm not rushing you or anything, but I would be interested to see how they rank compared to THK's rankings on those. Now that I think of it, I'm pretty sure THK ranked the Harriet Tubman filming day just before the database crash last year. I don't remember his rankings on that though. :azn:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 26, 2013, 01:26:23 AM
Yeah, THK definitely ranked some of the Season 2 episodes. I know that he did the Butch Cassidy and Golden Stallion production day. I don't remember if he made it to the Blackfeet Chief day though? He also did the S1L8 day (King Tut day) and S1L9 day (Anne Bonny day), but those got lost in the crash too. Too bad also. But I do remember he gave David from "Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress" an 8 in the temple.  :?

But yeah, Golden Ship/Map to the Lost Gold Mine is definitely my next project. Since we are ranking "Lost Hammer" tomorrow in GM1's thread, I might as well start off with that one. Then I will brace myself with Golden Cricket Cage and Golden Ship. At least I have Map to the Lost Gold Mine to top it off.  :mrblue:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 26, 2013, 01:38:16 AM
Hold the phone, an 8 for the temple?! :shock: He deserves a 10! Even though I haven't ranked his episode before, I certainly remember the temple run. I swear, I just don't understand his rankings. =/

And thanks for spoiling it for me which episode we're gonna rank come tomorrow night. :P If it's any consolation, at least Lost Hammer will be fresh in your mind since we're all rating the episode. And it'll be easier for you to rank. When you find the time to do it of course.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 26, 2013, 01:55:23 AM
Yeah, I definitely would've gave him a 10. I can understand a 9.5 or even a 9 just for the detours into the Cave of Sigh and Heart Room. But other than that, David's performance was amazing and that temple exit he pulled off was awesome. Not many contestants could've done on what he done.

I think some people like to look down on the S1 contestants like Jennifer, Jammin John, Lea, and David because their victories were from Season 1. Some people (no one specifically) are like "Well if you give Jennifer and Damian the Mussel-Shell Armor layout, they would be eaten alive by the Season 3 temple". I don't think it's fair to compare a S1 contestant to a S3 contestant. The S1 contestants knew NOTHING about the temple. It was a big learning curve for them when they ran it. For S2 and S3 contestants, they had past episodes to look at to get an idea of the temple. Yeah, the S1 contestants beelined for the direct path and didn't use many shortcuts. But they didn't know any better and the whole temple was like a learning experience for them. If they got a second shot at the temple, I am sure most would do better. I don't mind when people compare wins from the same season (like Jeremy and Erika failing in the Map to the Lost Gold Mine layout). But it makes no sense to compare a S1 to a S3 win when there is a whole of difference between the two seasons. Even the producers were more helpful to the contestants in S3.

And sorry for spoiling Lost Hammer for you, I knew you were waiting your whole life for that episode to come up. ;) :P Just kidding. Bu I think I have only watched the whole episode once or twice IIRC. Maybe I can get the rankings up by the weekend since the S1 episodes are not that hard to rate. And the episode itself probably isn't too bad either. I mean Kim and Billy both won their individual games and two pendants altogether. They can't be that bad before the temple run. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 26, 2013, 03:51:06 PM
Exactly. You can't say a Season 1 or Season 2 player would do badly in a Season 3 temple. That's not a fair comparison at all, though there are some exceptions to that rule. If Missy, David, and Jennifer were each given a Season 3 temple, I'm sure they would do just fine. They would still win the same way they did in their actual layouts. And yeah, I've only seen the full episode to Lost Hammer only twice. I remember Billy and Kim being first in the moat and winning 2 pendants in the temple games. It's Kim that screwed everything up. Oh well, you like that episode as much as Cricket Cage. So I bet you're looking forward to ranking it. ;) If I ever rank a Season 1 layout, I'll probably do the S1L4 filming day. Geronimo and Great Seal (the latter I've rewatched recently), I can do from memory. Since I've seen both episodes numerous times. Magellan and Lucky Pig I'd have to rewatch, and I certainly don't look forward to watching either episode. :roll:

And I almost forgot, here's how I'd rank the first S2L2 episodes:
Blackfeet Chief > Dr. Livingstone > Captain John Smith > Harriet Tubman

I ranked them in almost the same order you did, only switch Captain John Smith and Harriet Tubman.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 28, 2013, 01:43:51 AM
I did the first half of S1L2. So far, I covered only Lost Hammer and Golden Cricket Cage. I will post the other two tomorrow. These first two episodes were painful to sit through, but otherwise the first half is done. I will definitely get to Elizabeth I and Map to the Lost Gold Mine tomorrow. I can't wait until I cover the Gold Mine team either. :P

But for now, you guys get the two crappiest episodes from that day.  :roll:

JOHN HENRY'S LOST HAMMER

Kim
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 1
Overall: 5.60

Billy
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 8.5
Team Game: 5.5
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.80

Julia
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7.5
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.62

Walter
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 5
Overall: 5.10

NOTES:
Honestly, this episode was pretty good up until the temple run. A lot of mediocre temple runs had mediocre rounds prior to them (like the next episode that I am going to cover), but this one seemed like a normal episode up until the temple run. This episode showed switched dominance between the Silver Snakes and Orange Iguanas. Both the Silver Snakes and Orange Iguanas were neck and neck in the moat. The Orange Iguanas swept the Steps in this episode, while Billy and Kim got one answer wrong but eventually bounced back by answering consecutive correct answers.

Billy and Kim shined in the temple games though. Both players won their individual temple games and they both looked like good players out there. Billy pretty much smoked the Orange Iguana boy in his individual game where they had to climb the shaft and place rocks at the top. It seemed like the Iguana boy gave up at the end. Both teams were struggling in the team game though and the Silver Snakes got very lucky to tie it in the last couple of seconds or else they would've forced a 1 pendant tiebreaker.

Now, the temple run is where everything gets ugly. I absolutely have to give Kim a 1 though for the temple run. What went wrong with her? She was the only player that did not know how to press an actuator and she even was knocking on the doors and expecting them to open up that way. This same problem occurred in the Heart Room too! Because of this, I had to give her a 1. While Billy was guilty of wasting time in the Spider's Lair, I wasn't so hard on him because he sort of redeems this run in a way. If he didn't climb the Spider's Lair webbing, I think they would've come close to the Lost Hammer. But the run was lost when Kim didn't know how to push an actuator.

It was a mediocre episode, but everything else about it wasn't bad at all. The Silver Snakes were doing fine until the temple run.

THE GOLDEN CRICKET CAGE OF KHAN

John
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 5
Temple Run: 1
Overall: 4.40

Tia
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 3
Team Game: 5
Temple Run: 1
Overall: 4.40

Michelle
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 4
Overall: 6.00

Mike
Moat: 3
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 4.5
Overall: 5.38

NOTES:
Unlike "Lost Hammer", this episode was a disaster. The moat in this episode seemed to give more teams trouble. John was halfway across the moat and he struggled majorly getting across. Yet, he somehow managed to chime in first. The Purple Parrots finished last and it was painful to watch these teams struggle.

The rest of the rounds were just mediocre. The temple games were pretty embarassing and the Purple Parrots really should've gone to the temple. How did the Silver Snakes win? Well Tia tied her game and they barely won the last temple game. Also, John looked like a fool and got beat by a girl in his temple game. :roll:

The temple run... I think we all know how bad it is. :roll: Unlike THK, I gave John a 1 in the temple. This kid wasted over a minute trying to get to the Heart Room and this includes backtracking all the way to the Cave of Sighs. Who knows how far he would've made it if he wasn't taken out in the Heart Room? Tia was even worse (if that was possible) and this whole temple run was a load of crap. These two made it through 4 rooms in 3 minutes and there is nothing good to say about it. At least "Lost Hammer" had Billy who sort of redeemed that run.

The Purple Parrots would've done much better than these two losers. Even though I wasn't impressed with the myself, they still performed better than John and Tia. No doubt in my mind they would've had a better temple performance. This whole episode is laughable and John was such an annoying loser also. :roll:

ELIZABETH I'S GOLDEN SHIP

Joe
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 6.40

Gabby
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7.5
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 6.70

Mike
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 3
Overall: 6.38

Andrea
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.38

NOTES:
Another episode that is pretty infamous around here. Except, this one was sort of better than the ones above. The moat in this episode was much better than Cricket Cage, and Gabby and Joe made it across first. The Purple Parrots finished close behind them and both teams were first and second respectively. Both teams were good in n the Steps. During one of the questions, Joe was unsure of the answer and says "What was it again?" real loud that you can hear him. :lol: He still got the answer right though.

I have to say the first temple game was a terrible idea. The ships that the guys had to put on their heads kept falling off. Mike did a pretty good job at keeping his ships on his head, but Joe kept knocking them off. The way Joe was moving through the dragon tunnels was pretty unorthodox also. So I gave him the lower temple score. The second temple game is infamous for the "wig incident" where there were only three wigs when there were suppose to be four. Why were there only 3? I guess the producers dropped the ball and forgot one. :roll: Gabby was doing a good job in that temple game though and if that last wig was in the bin, she would've easily beat the Purple Parrot girl. But the Purple Parrots looked REALLY bad at the team game though. The Purple Parrot boy was struggling trying to get his flag piece from his partner. meanwhile, Joe and Gabby had good chemistry and did a good job. In the end, the Red Jaguars win and got to the temple.

Not much to say about the temple run though. Gabby and Joe only lasted four rooms and it was the quickest loss. The temple guard placement was unfair and we never see their true potential. But boy were these two slow. I had to give them a 4 because there is no reason to cover four easy rooms in 1:30 time span. That is all I have to say about this temple run.

JOHN SUTTER AND THE MAP TO THE LOST GOLD MINE

Damian
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 9
Overall: 8.00

Jennifer
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 9
Overall: 8.40

Perry
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 7.5
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7.5
Overall: 6.88

Brook
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7.5
Overall: 7.00

NOTES:
If you didn't know already, but I love this episode. :mrblue: Seriously, it's such a fun episode and not only was the best episode of S1L2, but it was also one of the best episodes on the whole show. Luckily, they saved the best for last. :mrblue:

If you didn't know already, Jennifer and Damian were in "John Henry's Lost Hammer" as the Blue Barracudas. They didn't make it past the moat though in that episode. That is alright though, because they kicked ass though and had a strong return in this episode! :mrblue: They went first in the moat, first in the Steps, won two pendants in the temple games, and won their temple run. Not many teams share that same stat line, but they were the first to do this.

THK originally gave Damian a 0 in the Steps of Knowledge. I don't agree with this score at all. Even though Damian didn't answer any questions, that doesn't mean he didn't know any of the answers. Giving him a 0 makes him look worst than he really performed. iO always give a player at least a 7 even if they don't answer a qestion. Jennifer was the one that was chiming in and she did an amazing job in the Steps. She was attentive and even got an answer right with any of the choices being revealed. I am not sure how the Silver Snakes made it to the temple games though. They barely advanced by the moat and now they just barely advanced by the Steps.

The Blue Barracudas were pretty strong in the temple games too. This biggest highlight of the temple games is the miscount of the first temple game. In the first temple game, the contestants were pushing pieces of gold through the dragon tunnel. In the end, Kirk miscounted the final score. The Silver Snakes actually had more pieces of gold than the Blue Barracudas. But he called it a tie. It didn't matter, because Damian was moving much faster than Brooke and would've won anyways if he had a couple of more seconds left to put his other pieces of gold into the bin. Jennifer had bad luck in her individual game where she dropped one of her sacks of gold. She was doing better than the Silver Snake boy and would've won if that sack of gold didn't drop on her. But at least they still tied.

For the last temple game, I noticed something that I have never noticed before. During the team game, after the players had to slide down the slope, they were suppose to run back through the middle of the slides in order to reposition themselves again. Damian kept running on the wrong side of the slides because he was suppose to run through the middle. I don't really call this cheating, but I deducted a point from him for not following the rules. But Kirk clearly stated they had to run through the middle. The last team game was a nailbiter though but the Barracudas won.

The temple win is very exciting and I can't understand why people think Jennifer's temple performance was so flawed. Yeah, she hesitated in a couple of rooms of the temple, but many S1 players did that. I am not sure on what basis that THK gave her a 6 in the temple. She didn't seem clueless to me at all. Even though her strategy didn't work out, it didn't throw her off at all. She moved very fast in the temple and brought the Map to the Lost Gold Mine out with quite some time to spare. Pretty good considering she had to move through 8 rooms. I gave Damian a 9 also because his speed was unbelievable and who knows how far he would've made if he wasn't taken out early? If Annie gets a lot of praise, he should also receive recognition. 

This was a great episode and team and I am not sure why THK ranked these two players so low. A team that wins first in every round is definitely not a fluke. I loved this episode and it was a nice way to cap off an otherwise miserable production day.

Overall, this production day was pretty sucky up until the very last episode. Those first three temple runs are among the worst in the series. But Map to the Lost Gold Mine on the other hand was one of the best. This is how I rank the episodes overall:

Map to the Lost Gold Mine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Golden Ship > Lost Hammer > Piss and poop > Golden Cricket Cage
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 28, 2013, 01:55:11 AM
At long last, the S1L2 episodes! I'll hold off on commentary until you finish the other two episodes. Which I assume you'll just edit your post. :P
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 28, 2013, 09:47:27 PM
I finished my rankings for Golden Ship and Map to the Lost Gold Mine and placed them in the post with Cricket Cage/Lost Hammer. The Lost Gold Mine one is a pretty long read, but it was worth it.  :mrblue:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 28, 2013, 10:42:22 PM
Alright, comment time! :mrblue:

Lost Hammer was an okay episode, at least until the temple run. Kim totally blew it in the temple, as we already know. How do you NOT know how to press an actuator? Did she see the Wall Climb doors opened when teams tour the temple in the pre temple rounds, and assume it was supposed to stay opened? That's the only logical conclusion/theory I can come up with. -_-

Cricket Cage.... god I can't imagine sitting through that episode. I've only seen the full episode literally once, so I don't remember the pre temple rounds. Did the male Purple Parrot really do THAT bad in the moat? I noticed you and THK ranked him low on that. I remember it being a really long moat, but again, I don't really remember. And the Purple Parrots for sure should've gone to the temple! Come on, they couldn't possibly have done that worse, according to THK. They totally deserved to go to the temple, I know for sure they would've done a better job. This is one episode I will never, ever watch again. This is permanently on my black list and I will ALWAYS skip over this entire episode when watching on YouTube. Just like I do with trash episodes like Bifocal Monocle, Cracked Crown, and Smashed Printing Plate.

Golden Ship is a pretty mundane episode. Aside from the "wig incident" in the second temple game, nothing really happens. And not much else to say about the temple run except, if they had moved faster, I can imagine how much time would be left on the clock. :shock: I would've given them both a 5 for the temple run, instead of a 4. But, it really shouldn't take you 1:30 for two teams to enter four rooms. Even if they were allowed to keep going, they still wouldn't have reached the artifact.

And the best for last, John Sutter! :mrblue: Unlike the other three episodes, I've seen this one a bunch of times, and with a good reason. Anyways, I love this episode. This is my favorite Season 1 episode, either this or Lawrence of Arabia. Jennifer and Damian were first in the moat, first in the Steps of Knowledge, won 2 pendants, and won with 17 seconds left on the clock! They both did great with their second chance, considering they lost at the moat in the Lost Hammer episode. And might I add that I completely agree with both PP319 and your rankings much more than I do THK's rankings. Damian did not deserve a 3 for the Steps of Knowledge. I know there are smart people out there, but not everyone is gonna sweep the Steps of Knowledge before Olmec reveals the choices. Not every contestant is Silver Snakes from Icarus smart or Blue Barracuda boy from Harriet Tubman smart. Just because you don't ring in with any questions, doesn't make you stupid. This is why I like your rankings better, you're much more generous than THK and you don't count points off for silly reasons. The temple games were great too, though the Blue Barracudas should've gone to the temple with 1.5 pendants, if it's really true the first game was miscounted. If that had happened, I assume the producers would've pulled an "Anne Bonny," and hid the half pendant on the Throne Room ladder. Especially considering the run before them lost so quickly. Either way, the Blue Barracudas excelled in their temple games, and the Silver Snakes were no match for them whatsoever. To quote Kirk, "That's the problem with Snakes they don't have feet!" The temple run was just amazing. Damian was very fast in the short time he was in the temple. Though I probably would've given him a "7" or an "8" for the temple run. We never got to see what he was made of. I would've given Jennifer at least an "8." She may have gotten confused at times, but that doesn't make her a terrible player. She did a wonderful job, she was very fast and knew what to do in every room despite minor confusion in some places. Furthermore, her slip on the floor was not only hilarious, but it just made it that much more memorable. I don't understand the hate for this run at all. And I certainly don't consider it overrated. This team deserved to win, I have a feeling THK used to pick on this win just to pick a reason not to like it. And just because of all the praise it gets and just because everyone else likes it. I MUCH prefer this win over Shaka Zulu. Now that was one of the worst wins ever.

Overall, this was a terrible production day until our "Gold Mine" (pun intended) came around. I've only seen Lost Hammer and Golden Ship twice, and Cricket Cage once. But John Sutter I've seen a bunch of times, because it's just an amazing episode with amazing players. One other thing I want to note is, what was with the Steps of Knowledge ring in sound in all the episodes? It was way off key and high pitch. It wasn't like that in any of the other episodes. It just sounded.... bizarre. Like always, great rankings and ALL of the players ranked significantly higher than when THK ranked them. If I had to choose a Season 1 layout to rank, I'd probably do S1L4's filming day, like I said I would earlier in this thread. And you wanted to do Apanuugpak's filming day as well. If you do rank them, it would be interesting to see how Kimberly and Gator rank in their respective episodes. And LOL at your overall rankings. :lol: Mine would go like this:

John Sutter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Golden Ship >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lost Hammer >>>>>>>>> Cricket Cage
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 29, 2013, 01:50:34 AM
Thanks for the feedback as usual.  :mrblue:

I think I have watched and talked about Lost Hammer so many times now that I might as well do an episode review on it. I will probably do that in the next couple of days. ;)

The moat for Golden Cricket Cage was pretty laughable and bad. None of the other episodes that day had teams struggle in the moat. The Purple Parrot boy's problem was that he kept dangling in the middle of the moat trying to align his paddle board. But then again, every other team seemed to have this problem too. Even John had trouble for the same thing, except that he crossed first. I don't think it was possible for any team to do worse than John and Tia. :shock: It is very hard to think of a way to trump these two losers. Even Sabrina made more progress than both players in the temple. :roll: The Parrots would've 99.99% done better than the Silver Snakes.

Maybe I will change Joe and Gabby's temple score to a 5. I mean their only problem was that they were really slow. But yeah, I don't think they would've won even if they didn't meet all three guards. :roll:

And Lost Gold Mine is my favorite S1 episode too after Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress. :mrblue: As for the temple game miscount, I didn't really hold that against the Blue Barracudas at all. It was a mistake on the production team and nothing Damian did wrong. Although it makes me wonder if Damian had 5 golden nuggets in his bin also because he only completed one trip like the Silver Snake girl did? I have to rewatch that temple game again. Perhaps there was no miscount after all and Kirk just didn't look closely enough at the number of nuggets in each bin?

Maybe I will lower Damian's temple score to an 8 just because speed doesn't mean everything and his temple appearance was short-lived. I think Jennifer's score is fitting (maybe an 8.5 might be more suitable for her). Her only flaw was she wasted time in the Torch Room. Other than that, she moved fast and didn't get turned around at all. Either way, it was an amazing victory. And the fact that anyone considers Shaka Zulu is an amazing win makes me wonder if that was the only temple victory they watched. :roll: It's kind of cool for the fast victory and production error, but at the same time is really lame and nothing accomplishing about it at all. :roll:

And I love your idea of an episode black list. :P In addition to the ones that you mentioned, I would add Snow Cone, Nzinga, Enormous Feather, Snow Cone, Amelia Earhart, and Jean Lafitte to that list.  :oops:  :oops:  :oops: If those episodes disappeared over night, I won't shed a tear at all.

And yeah, I keep setting the Apanuugpak rankings back. :o I swear I am 3/4 done (Lily-Crested Crown, Apanuugpak, and Poseidon) are already completed. That should leave me with just Gwalior or Belle Boyd  :?: or whatever that last episode was.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 29, 2013, 02:10:06 AM
Red Sash was the first episode of the Apanuugpak day. Gwalior and Belle Boyd aren't until much later in the season. But seeing that you're 3/4 done with those rankings, it shouldn't take you long to put it up. ;)

And yeah, maybe you should do Lost Hammer for your next "full episode" ranking. I doubt you'll have to rewatch it yet again though, considering you've already watched it for this particular thread. As for Cricket Cage, I'm 100% confident that the Purple Parrots would've done a better job. I don't understand how "they didn't deserve to win anything," even if their pre temple performance was less than impressive. And I'd definitely take John Sutter over Shaka Zulu any day. Like you said, speed doesn't mean anything. Which is why it is so mind boggling that Bobby is a better player than Jennifer because "he moved fast and got lucky with his path." How people say Shaka Zulu is "the best temple run ever" is beyond me. :roll:

Hah, and I just randomly coined the term "black list" out of nowhere. Those are just episodes I absolutely REFUSE to touch, no matter how many times I go on YouTube to rewatch an episode. Basically episodes like Cricket Cage, Lost Hammer, Alhambra, Blackbeard, Missing Weather Maps, Dried Apple Half, Kilimanjaro, etc. are episodes I never intend on watching ever again. By the way, you mentioned Snow Cone twice on your list. :lol:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 09, 2013, 10:46:44 PM
Here are my next set of rankings. And this time, it's the S1L4 filming day:

THE LOST LOGBOOKS OF MAGELLAN

Robert:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.2

Jessica:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Game: 3
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5.2

Charles:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.5

Jennifer:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7

NOTES:

This was a decent episode, albeit uneventful. If you couldn't already tell by the rankings, Jessica sucked. On the Steps of Knowledge, Jessica was VERY hesitant in answering questions. She kept on whispering her responses. She was so delayed at one point the Orange Iguanas rang in and stole her answer. And she sucked in her temple game. She couldn't even get a spice bag from the top of the ramp. The second temple game was pretty competitive. Both Charles and Robert were VERY fast with the Mr. Bubbles game where they had to put ships on all four corner of the world. Robert just barely edged out Charles, but it was still a close game. Neither team did well in the third game, and the Orange Iguanas in particular struggled. In the end, the Blue Barracudas beat the Orange Iguanas 8-6 in the final game which is an impressive score despite their struggling. The temple run was kind of unfortunate. It's kind of weird how the temple rundown music replayed when Kirk was giving instructions for the temple. Anyways, the team lost because of the dead end in the Room of Harmonic Convergence. If they had avoided that room altogether, they probably would've at least reached the Logbooks. But with Jessica's painfully slow speed in the temple, I doubt they would've won. Furthermore, Jessica's assembling of the monkey was by far the slowest, she assembled it in 33 seconds. Overall, it's a typical episode, and you're not really missing anything. Though it does feature a rare Blue vs. Orange match up, where this is the only episode where Blue beats Orange.

THE MOCCASINS OF GERONIMO

Mitchell:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.4

Emily:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 6.25

William:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 4
Overall: 5.25

Erin:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6

NOTES:

I've seen this episode so many times I know it like the back of my hand, so these rankings were done from memory. Anyways, this episode was pretty much average. Neither team was impressive at all, and the Silver Snakes were pretty subpar. Especially in the Steps of Knowledge, where they rang in wrong TWICE. Then again, the Blue Barracudas rang in wrong at one point as well. Emily whispered the wrong answer in Mitchell's ear, even Mitchell was like "WTF?!" Nonetheless, they still finished first, and Mitchell got the last question right without Olmec revealing the three choices. So his score on the Steps was a little higher there. The temple games weren't much better, and the Silver Snakes performed even worse than they did on the Steps. Both William and Erin especially struggled in the last temple game, where they kept knocking down their ti-pi's. Also, is it me or does William look like Jonathan from the Battle Flag episode? :shock: And we all know about the temple run, where Mitchell got lucky with the treasure chest. I do not in any way, shape or form think Mitchell planned this at all. It's called dumb luck, and he was just lucky that the chest just happened to open that day. And when he grabs the Moccasins, he tries to assemble the monkey! Overall, an undeserved win and way overpraised.

HENRY VIII'S GREAT SEAL

Shay:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.4

Nick:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7.8

Jordan:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7

Annie:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

NOTES:

Now this was a great episode! Both Shay and Nick were such a strong team. They blazed through the Steps of Knowledge and were down to the final step within four questions. Now I have to strongly disagree with THK's rankings of Annie during the Steps. He gave her a "1" and said she didn't attempt to ring in once. First of all, SHE DID answer all the questions, it was her partner Jordan who hit the buzzer. Second of all, I refuse to give a "1" to a contestant who doesn't ring in. Were THK and I watching the same episode? =/ Anyways, Jordan was very hesitant during the Steps, much like Jessica from Magellan was. He hesitated so much at one point the "3 seconds" buzzer went off, but he still got the question right. The temple games featured a very interesting temple game sequence. And the round was very memorable too, especially with Kirk slipping in the Mr. Bubbles when trying to help Nick up. :lol: Shay and Jordan's game featured the rare Bamboo Forest game. Interestingly enough, they both had to wear REALLY oversized colored jackets to represent Henry VIII's weight gain in the legend. And Kirk makes a comment "My, have you gained weight." You're a prince, Kirk. -_- Anyways, both Shay and Jordan did well in their game, but Jordan was faster, so he ended up winning. The third temple game was a good competition as well. But in the end, the Silver Snakes did better in the game, and won. The temple run was awesome, even though this team got triple captured. If they hadn't beelined for a direct path, they would've won for sure. We all know about the temple guards in this episode, which you can totally tell frazzled Shay. She did a decent job, but she did move a tad slow. She was so startled by the Heart Room's temple guard, she nearly retreated down the ladder. And of course we have Nick's memorable exit. Both players did a decent job in the temple, their only mistake was using the Cave of Sighs entrance. Even then, this was one of the best Season 1 episodes, and I can see why Teenick played this episode twice.

THE LUCKY PIG OF AMELIA EARHART

Kristen:
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Game: 4
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 3
Overall: 4.6

Scott:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 7

Annie:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.5

Brad:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.25

NOTES:

Wow, take a look at Kristen's score. You know you don't deserve to go to the temple when you can't even make a 5 average. Seriously, she was a worse player than I thought when I was ranking her. As for the rest of the episode, it was pretty decent actually. At least until the temple run. On the Steps of Knowledge, Annie was a beast with the buzzer. She got at least one of the questions before Olmec even revealed the three choices. The Blue Barracudas kind of sucked in the beginning, but they eventually came from behind. It's funny how both Kristen AND Scott got an answer wrong in unison. :lol: The temple games were another unique sequence, and it was the exact same games from Great Seal. In the first game, both Scott and Brad were fast in their game where they had to put pig figurines in the four corners of the world. Scott ended up winning, since Brad was starting to slow down at the end. The second game was the Bamboo Forest game, and both Annie and Kristen kind of struggled here. But, Annie ended up winning since she did move MUCH more quickly than Kristen did. In the third game, Brad sucked because he kept trying to put airplanes on his head. He already had one on his head, and he didn't even realize it! Annie did a solid job grabbing the planes from Brad's head though. If there's one positive thing I can say about Kristen, she also did a decent job grabbing planes off Scott's head. It was the solid lead the Barracudas had throughout the game that helped them win a trip to the temple. And the temple run was just pitiful. While it was a devilishly difficult layout, Kristen was WAY too slow to be first. First of all, she couldn't climb the Wall Climb walls to save her life. Second of all, she wasted an immense amount of time in the Dungeon. Both shrugging her shoulders AND not knowing how to bust through the wall. Thanks to her, Scott never even had a chance to go in. Yet another example of "Why you never send the slow witted player first in the temple." And it's such a shame he never got a chance to enter, since he was by far the strongest player. Furthermore, he carried the team throughout the episode, it's because of Kristen the team barely scraped by from round to round. Scott definitely should've gone in first, no doubt about it. And by looking at the rankings, Annie and Scott's higher scores just strengthen my view on how THEY should've been paired up. I was rooting for the Parrots in the temple games. :(

Overall, this was a rather subpar filming day. Great Seal is the only episode I recommend for re watching. Not even Geronimo is even that great of an episode. Though by comparison to my rankings and THK's rankings for this filming day, my grading is MUCH easier and much more generous than his was. Even then, this still doesn't save this filming day from being worth watching.

My rankings on all four episodes:

Great Seal >>>>>> Geronimo >>>>> Magellan >>>>>>>>>>>> Lucky Pig
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 10, 2013, 01:50:36 AM
S1L4 day was another production day with lackluster episodes, except for Great Seal. Here is my thoughts:

LOST LOGBOOKS:
The Mr. Bubble temple game. :lol: I don't know why, but that made me chuckle. Anyways, Magellan was a pretty forgettable and uneventful episode. I always thought that Jessica was deadweight in this episode and did bring the Barracudas down. It's pretty embarrassing when both temple game losers have a higher score than a temple runner. Judging from your rankings, the Orange Iguanas looked like a pretty good team. I don't remember the early rounds very well, but the Orange Iguanas looked good in the temple games it seemed. The temple run was the usual S1 triple capture where the half-pendant is not in sight. That doesn't matter though, because Jessica sucked. The deadend ate up a lot of time, but even if they didn't enter it they might've not won due to her. I would've given her a four in the temple because she moved slow, entered the Harmonic Convergence for no reason, and had the slowest monkey assembly ever. Robert was a solid contestant though and I never had a problem with him.

I would rank this on as my third favorite episode on this day.

GERONIMO:
I really never cared for this episode at all, and not because of the lame win either. Judging from your rankings, both teams ranked worse than the previous episode. I never thought the Blue Barracudas were that great of a team either. Mitchell was just an average contestant throughout. I don't remember much about this episode at all either. I do remember the Steps for the Barracudas getting some answers at the last second. And I never noticed the comparison between the Silver Snake boy/Jonathan from "William the Conqueror". Maybe we should post their pics in the other thread because I don't remember the Silver Snake boy's face?  :o And yeah, the temple win was not great at all. Mitchell just basically walks through the whole temple and he even had the nerve to assemble the Silver Monkey at the end. He lost all credibility from me after I saw him do that. Only dumb contestants like Kimberly from "Poseidon" tries completing room objectives after grabbing the artifact. :roll: The Treasure Chest opening was just pure luck and he only went down it because that was the main purpose of using it. I doubt there was much strategy behind it. Even Kristen from the same day tried the Treasure Chest. Did that make her a strategist? :roll: I think a 5 for Mitchell is just fitting. What an overrated and lame win.  :roll:

GREAT SEAL:
This was the only non Blue Barracuda run on this day. And interesting enough, it was the only one that I actually liked. This episode is a classic and I am glad that T90'SAAT played it.  :mrsilver:  And I never understood his reasoning behind giving a contestant a 1 in the Steps. If they didn't answer any of the questions, how is that the player's fault? He gave Damian, Jackie from Oracle Bowl, and Chris from Stone Marker all very low scores at the Steps because they didn't answer. The only contestant I could even think of giving a very low score would be the Silver Snake boy in "The Trojan Horseshoe".  :roll: As a result, it makes the player look worse than how they really perform. I am glad that you and PP319 ranked the players more fairly. The Silver Snakes were  fun team to watch. I love Shay's faces throughout the episode and her interview about collecting glass horses. :lol: The temple games were very fun from Nick knocking Kirk down to Kirk's stupid quote in the bamboo pole game. I really wished they used the bamboo pole game more.  :oops: And poor Nick tied a girl in his temple game. He seemed ashamed of it in his interview. :lol: The temple run is just like "Kamehameha" where Nick and Shay would've won if they didn't meet all three guards. They were still fast runners and making it one room away from an artifact with about a minute left is great. The temple guards were a classic as was the ending too. :lol: I agree with your rankings for this episode and the Silver Snakes were a solid team. Too bad they lost though. Definitely a fun episode and worth the watch.  :mrsilver:

AMELIA EARHART:
This is one of my least favorite episodes on the show. You thought Jessica from "Magellan" was bad? Kristen was even more of a liability to Barracudas. Seriously, the Blue Barracudas barely scraped by the whole episode thank to her. This was even a second chance for them! She did nothing in the moat and during the Steps, she only answered the questions incorrectly! Scott answered all three questions for the team. In the temple games, Kristen couldn't even win her individual game that Annie smoked her in. Notice a theme with her? In the end though, the Barracudas win and go to the temple. The temple run performance... was just pathetic. I remember I use to feel bad for her due to the hard layout, but her stupidity was the reason why they lost. Kristen was so slow and clueless that she didn't even give Scott a chance to enter the temple. Even giving her a 3 was generous. She was so slow, took a long time in the Wall Climb, had to rely on Kirk and Scott to guide her through the temple. And got lost in the Dungeon. WHO THE HELL GETS LOST IN THE DUNGEON?  :?  :roll:

Scott was a good sport throughout the temple run and cheered Kristen on. Yet, he doesn't even get a chance to even enter at all. I am glad that he got a good score because he was the one that carried his team on his back. I would've definitely rather see the Purple Parrots in the temple. Or even Annie with Scott in the temple. I hate this episode so much and it was because of Kristen. She was a horrible player.  :evil:

My overall rankings:
Great Seal > Moccasins > Lost Logbooks >>>>>>>>>>>>> Amelia Earhart

But Great Seal was the only episode I really liked.  ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 10, 2013, 02:22:13 AM
Once again: It's SCOTT, not Jim. ;)

And yeah, I remember Nick in his interview from Great Seal calling his temple game "Mr. Bubbles." I also remember Nick saying Kirk was secretly pissed about his shorts getting wet when the cameras were off. Also, Shay was cute. I know this sounds kind of creepy since I'm also a girl like Shay, but there's just that something about her. XD And yeah, Jessica from Magellan and Kristen were just pathetic. Looking back at Jessica's temple performance, maybe I should've given her a 4. Not that it would improve her overall score in any way though. :roll: Kristen was just a lost cause, period. There is NO way a contestant like her would qualify for the show in Season 2 or 3.

I know I picked a pretty shitty production day to rank, but I figured I'd give a Season 1 day a try. If it's any consolation, it was a great day for the Blue Barracudas, when it came to advancing from round to round. They made it to all four temple games, and made it to the temple 3/4 times. It was much better than the Blue Barracudas losing at five consecutive moats on two different occasions. And yes, that actually happened. Plus, I wanted to compare my rankings to THK. Much like what you did for the S1L2 filming day. As you can see, I'm a much easier grader than him. I never understood why contestants often got a "1" for the Steps of Knowledge either. Almost every contestant he ranked have 3-5 averages because of that bogus grade. Just because you don't answer a question, doesn't make you stupid. To take our minds off the bad players, I'd still love to see your rankings on Gator and everyone on his filming day. But again, no rush, though you did say you had one more episode to rank on Gator's filming day.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 10, 2013, 02:01:59 PM
S1L4 is not even really a shitty production day. :P Great Seal is a great episode, and Moccasins and Lost Logbooks were average but still watchable. Amelia Earhart was the only real bad episode that day. I will take this production over the S1L2 (minus Map to the Lost Gold Mine  :mrblue:) , S1L5, Grandy Nanny/Golden Stallion day, Snow Cone/Xerxes day, and the Lost Lion Tail/Sultan Suleiman day.

And yeah, I still need to review Red Sash for that one last episode for the Apanuugpak day. I messed up my rankings for that production day somehow. The four episodes on that production day include Red Sash, Broken Trident, Mussel-Shell Armor, and Lily-Crested Crown. However, I also did rankings for Gwalior and Pytheas despite them being on a separate production day.  :oops: I should have time this weekend though to finish the Red Sash ones. I already completed the other three from that day. And since I already 2/4 of the episodes from the Gwalior day, I will probably post that production day next. The other two episodes must be Belle Boyd (great episode, worth watching again) and Sojourner Truth (haven't watched this one in a long time, so it might be worth a rewatch).
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 10, 2013, 04:17:20 PM
Silly TRJ and your screwing up of your filming days. :P But, if you do rank the Pytheas/Sojourner Truth filming day, your job will be much easier and you'll only have two episodes left to rank. Now that I think of it, didn't RJF rank Pytheas' filming day and Jewel Encrusted Egg's filming day just before the database crash last year? I remember he did rankings starting in reverse production order. Much like how they were aired on Nickelodeon in 2007. And he started with the Jewel Encrusted Egg episode. But, if you choose to rank and post either one of those aforementioned episodes, it'll be new to us. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 10, 2013, 04:53:04 PM
Yeah, I do remember him doing rankings for both the Ruby Earring and Belle Boyd day. I think his plan was to start with the Catherine the Great episode and work backwards from there. I would probably go ahead with the Red Sash/Apanuugpak day first though since no one posted that one yet and that one is the closest to being completed. But I will probably do the Belle Boyd day also because I love that episode and I am already 50% done with Gwalior and Pytheas.  :mrblue:  :mrorange:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 22, 2013, 11:17:53 PM
Here are some more rankings for you guys, and this time, it is S1L9:

LAWRENCE OF ARABIA'S HEADDRESS

Candace:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7.4

David:
Moat: 10
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 9
Overall: 8.8

Brittany:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 5
Overall: 5.5

Angel:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.75

NOTES:

This was a great episode from beginning to end, and it's by far my favorite Season 1 episode next to John Sutter. David was a BEAST during the moat. He made it across in no time and naturally, him and Candace were first to finish. The Steps of Knowledge were a very close round, where it was a three way tie on the second to last step. It was also pretty humorous how Candace changed one of her answers from "lump" to "hump" and the Orange Iguanas attempted to ring in and steal her answer. :lol: Either way, the Green Monkeys joined the Red Jaguars on the final step in the end. In the temple games, Angel and Brittany proved to be no match for Candace and David. The Green Monkeys were very strong in the temple games, especially Candace, who smoked Brittany in the dragon tunnel game. It's where you had to crawl through one side of the tunnel, stick the cloth to their helmet, and then crawl on back and pull the cloth through the tunnel. Brittany kind of sucked in the game. She was just starting to make her way back with the cloth while Candace finished the game with 15 seconds to go. The third temple game is one of my personal favorites in Season 1. It was when they had to take a pyramid piece, and push it up the slope with their backs turned. And then their partners had to do the same. The guys didn't have too much trouble, the girls struggled just a tad, but since that's when the water starting spewing at that point, I'll let it slide. In the end, the Green Monkeys ended up winning and swept the Red Jaguars 2-0! Brittany sucked, and that's pretty much why her team didn't go to the temple. And the temple run was amazing. Candace did an okay job, but David owned everything! I could've given David a "10" for the temple run, but I figured a "9" was a little more fitting. I'm definitely not giving him an "8" that's for sure. He made it all the way to the Holes of Python room with 28 seconds remaining, and when victory looked uncertain, he REALLY hauled ass just to get out. And his climbing the Pit/Wheel Room walls certainly helped. In the end, David escaped with 2 seconds left on the clock! Solid temple run and episode. Nickelodeon certainly picked a great "world premiere" episode to air. :mrgreen:

THE COLLAR OF DAVY CROCKETT

Shannon:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.6

Adam:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.25

Abby:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Overall: 6.75

Eric:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.25

NOTES:

This was just an average episode really. The legend was sort of cheesy, especially the "Davy Crockett let me go in peace" bit. I sort of liked how the legend mentions Texas, (the state I'm from :mrchameleon: ) numerous times though. Abby of the Red Jaguars was VERY fast in her game, where you had to climb up the walls, and place two Texas flags on top. Shannon did an okay job, but she just wasn't as fast as Abby. Plus, the game felt rather easy and rushed since only two flags were used. They couldn't give the girls more flags to work with? Adam was painfully slow in his temple game, the one with the dragon tunnel. He did start to make a bit of a comeback just when Eric crossed the finish line though. In the third temple game, where the teams had to takes turns climbing up the slope and dump the water buckets, the Silver Snakes literally barely won and forced a tiebreaker. Adam got the correct tiebreaker question (where Texas is known as the lone star state), and they go to the temple. The Red Jaguars were much faster in the temple games than the Silver Snakes, but they just weren't quick enough with the tiebreaker buzzer. Also, Abby kind of looks like Dana. :shock: The temple run itself wasn't that exciting. I did like Shannon's plan where she wanted to start in the Cave, go through the Wheel Room, then Throne Room, make her way through the Holes of Python, then the Golden Orbs room, and then make her way to the Shrine. But alas, that didn't happen, as Shannon was forced all the way up the central shaft. Shannon left Adam 1:48 to get the job done, and good LORD was he slow. I think that's what made the temple run even less exciting to me. Adam took longer to reach the Observatory than Shannon did. The collar was picked up with about 33 seconds left on the clock, and Kirk didn't declare the run a victory until Adam crossed the gate with 5 seconds left on the clock. And for some reason, Kirk said he finished with 8 seconds left on the clock. Also, what was with the shouting during this run?! I swear, Dana must've snuck into the audience and did all the shouting. :roll: Overall, it was a pretty uninspiring and unexciting win. And yes, the collar was indeed a pendant of life. :P Which was rather fitting since this team only had one pendant.

THE SNAKE BRACELET OF CLEOPATRA

Robert:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 9
Overall: 8

Tracy:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.2

Samantha:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7

Joshua:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

NOTES:

Wow, take a look at Robert's score. For someone who didn't last in the temple long, he got a GREAT score! Imagine if he went into the temple second instead of Tracy. As for the rest of this episode, it was pretty average. It was kind of humorous how the Green Monkey boy kept folding his arms the whole time during the Steps of Knowledge. And he was much taller than his partner. The temple games were a pretty good round. Robert did pretty well in the temple game where you had to climb the walls, and thread Cleopatra's needle at the bottom. (I think that's how it went). Joshua sucked in this game, and moved much too slowly with the threading of the needle/rope. In the second game, Samantha was FAST with the push a brick up the watery slope with your back turned game. Tracy was kind of slow, and struggled quite a bit. Both teams were pretty neck and neck in the third game, but the Silver Snakes edged out the Orange Iguanas just a bit and won a trip to the temple. The temple run itself wasn't that exciting, but man, Robert was FAST! He was almost Robbie fast, too bad he was removed so soon. Tracy went in next and she did an okay job. She eventually made it to the Snake Bracelet with about a minute left, and exited the temple via the Fallen Columns and up to the Observatory. Where she broke the mechanism trying to force open the Observatory/Golden Orbs passage way. Either way, she made it out with 20 seconds to spare, where she didn't seem even remotely excited. I know you're tired from your temple run, but you could at least try to smile and celebrate your win. =/ That's probably why I don't find this win exciting and always forget it's a win most of the time. Just as I said above, I think it would've been much better if Robert had gone in second.

THE TREASURE OF ANNE BONNY

Katherine:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7.6

Ron:
Moat: 1 (If you cheat during the moat, you don't deserve a high score)
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5

Joanna:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7

Nate:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7

NOTES:

Well, after three episodes where the teams win, we get.... this. We all know by now that Ron blatantly cheated during the moat. Which is why I gave him a measly "1." Katherine was pretty bad ass though, and she didn't even cheat once. During the Steps of Knowledge, the Green Monkeys were very smart and were down to the last step in a heartbeat. Katherine was smart too and answered almost all the questions. Ron did answer the last question though, so his score for that round isn't too bad. Also, could the Purple Parrots be any taller?! :shock: Seriously, they're taller than Kristen from Priceless Portrait and the Green Monkey boy from Nathan Hale. The temple games featured some humorous interviews by Katherine, with her "Fred" nickname and all. Joanna's "argumentative" interview with Kirk was funny too. :lol: As for the temple games themselves, they were nothing special really. Katherine and Ron end up winning and going to the temple with 1.5 pendants. Of course, we all know about the temple run. Katherine was a beast, and it's such a shame she got taken out early. Ron sucked, but at least he found the half pendant on the Throne Room ladder, and needed it to fend off the Fallen Columns temple guard. One peculiar note I'd like to make is that we never get to see Ron complete the Golden Orb objective. Faulty door/mechanism going haywire maybe? Anyways, Ron reaches the Treasure with about 50 seconds left on the clock, and naturally.... completely blows it by going all the way down the central shaft. Pitiful. Like the aforementioned Snake Bracelet episode, this should've been a reverse order of players. Katherine/Fred wouldn't have scaled down the central shaft at the end. Also, didn't she look downright PISSED at the end? You could totally tell she wanted to murder Ron for blowing his load in the temple. And who could blame her either? :roll: Meh, this was an alright episode until the temple run.

Overall, this was a pretty good production day. A whopping 3/4 episodes on this day were wins, just wish it would've ended on a better note. *coughRoncough* It's pretty obvious which episode is the weak link here, but all the artifacts were at least grabbed. If that's one nice thing I can say. My rankings of this episodes are as follows:

Lawrence of Arabia >>>>>>>> Cleopatra >>>>>>> Davy Crockett >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anne Bonny
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 23, 2013, 01:03:17 AM
I love the S1L9 production day. All of the episodes (including Anne Bonny) were great. And it shares one of my all time favorite episodes. :mrgreen:

LAWRENCE OF ARABIA:
I... freaking... love... this episode!  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

Seriously, I never understood how people called it average or David was average. It was a very exciting episode from the beginning to the end. Your score for David proves that he ranks among the best on the show. And the Green Monkeys in general were strong. First in the moat, temple games sweep, and of course the nail biter one second win! Candace owned the dragon tunnel game, and Brittany did not even make it back before Candace was almost done pulling her piece through. Kind of felt like Joe's temple game from "Golden Ship". And of course, David owned his game.  :mrgreen: I love the temple run and I always consider this the Green Monkeys best run. Candace was a decent contestant, but she got taken out early. The only real mistake he did was detour into the Room of Fallen Columns and Cave of Sighs. Other than that, he was a great contestant that some people overlooked because he was from S1. I love how he handled all three pieces of the Silver Monkey at one time. The temple exit was very exciting and I consider this the best temple exit on the show. He really hauled ass to get that Headdress out of the temple in time. I agree with the temple score of a 9. Overall, this was a great episode and my second favorite episode on the whole show. I can't wait until we rate it in the Episode rating thread.

DAVY CROCKETT:
My memory is kind of fuzzy for this episode, but I do remember bits of pieces. The Silver Snakes did have some close calls when it came to advancing by each round. Especially in the temple games where they came back for their team game. At least they won their tiebreaker questions unlike a couple of other teams in earlier episodes... The temple win was kind of lame, but I blame it more on Adam. Shannon moved fine, although she wasn't too special. Adam though was very slow though. This team should've not finished with 4 seconds left after having such an easy layout. He doesn't even speed up at the end of the run either. :roll: This win ranks down there with  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  and Shaka Zulu, but the Silver Snakes earned it. The artifact was very lame though.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

SNAKE BRACELET:
This was actually a solid episode, and Robert was a solid contestant. He must've been one of those contestants like Shawn (The Trojan Horseshoe) and Joel (Enormous Iron Nose Ring) who was 15 at the time of the episode's taping. The Orange Iguanas were a good team also, but Robert and Tracy won it in the end. The temple run was an average win, but I don't mind it too much. Robert was very fast and if he went in second, then perhaps "Ruby Earring" would not be the fastest team win. Tracy was kind of slow though and I am not sure why she tried entering the Treasury from the Observatory. She still got the job done, but they should've had way more time left. Judging from Tracy and Robert's score, Robert was easily the better player on the team. It's kind of bad when your partner has a score that is two digits higher than you. Overall, I like this episode.

ANNE BONNY:
I will admit that I have a soft place for this episode in my heart, even if Ron does bring it down. You did the exact same thing I did for Ron when he decided to cross the moat unfairly. I gave him a lowly score of a 1 also. Unlike Jeremy from "Robert the Bruce", his cheating benefited the team and they did get lucky that he didn't get called back. Fred was easily the strongest player in this whole episode too. She won her individual game and carried the team through the Steps. I love the temple game interview with this episode too. Fred admitting that she was weird always gets me. :P The temple run was a disappointing loss, but that was Ron's fault though. I never understood what happened in the Golden Orbs with Ron either. This could can't go through a single round without something going wrong. He was a moron anyways from the way he moved to taking the long way out of the temple. I never understood how he missed the Bridge? If Katherine went in second, the Jaguars would win. One thing I like about this run though was that Fred was cheering Ron on. No other S1 run besides Scott from Amelia Earhart ever did this. This should've been a win though and we might've had a 4/4 successful day.

Overall: This was a solid production day for S1. No other production day was as good as this one. Even the most weak episode (Anne Bonny) was still much better than the other production days. My rankings:

Lawrence of Arabia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Snake Bracelet > Davy Crockett >>> Anne Bonny
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 23, 2013, 01:20:54 AM
Yeah, I believe Lawrence of Arabia is literally the last episode we have to rate. Just like it was for the "rate the wins" thread. We totally know how to save the best for last, don't we? :mrgreen: And yeah, David was great. He's got the second highest score of anyone I've ranked so far. The contestant with the highest ranking? That would be Gator, he literally got a 9.4 average in my rankings. *coughyoustillhaven'trankedhimyetcough* :P

I just saw Davy Crockett today, which is why I decided to rank this whole taping day in general. Yeah, Adam was too slow, and it wasn't even a nailbiting ending either. No, it was just unexciting, period. As for Snake Bracelet, I'm pretty sure Robert said he was 14. I remember his interviews saying he moved around a lot and lived in Puerto Rico at one point. But yeah, he was a MUCH stronger player than Tracy. If he had gone in second, it probably would've been up there with "Benzibab" on quickest team victory ever. And Anne Bonny, Katherine/Fred definitely carried the team through the episode. And I also remember her "weird" comment in her player interview too. Ron totally sucked, and his cheating in the moat just barely got him a 5 average for his ranking. Way to go, Ron. :roll:

Also, I'm pretty sure THK ranked this taping day just before the database crash last year. I'm pretty sure he gave Ron a "1" for the moat too. One of the very few low scores I even agree with. Other filming days such as S1L8 and the first day of Season 2 were ranked as well, but nobody has replaced those yet. And yeah, this was a pretty good filming day, MUCH better than say S1L5 and S1L6.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 23, 2013, 01:55:14 PM
I don't remember much from THK's review, but I do remember he gave David an 8 in the temple, which didn't make much sense to me when he gave Bobby a 7 and all Bobby had to do was run along the bottom floor of the temple. :roll: But if there was anyone that deserved a 1 in the moat, it would be Ron. Even contestants who were beyond horrible in the moat would still wouldn't rank lower than him. He was the only real cheater on the show where the team actually got away with it AND they benefitted from it. I use to love Anne Bonny a lot, but after watching it again, Ron brings it down a lot. I actually would've given him a 4 in the temple on account of being slow and taking the wrong way out of the temple.

And yeah, I still need to review Red Sash as that last episode.  :P  :P I don't know why I can never seen to get to it though. It's not a terrible episode or anything. Heck, I haven't seen the whole episode in a long time. I do remember the upside down temple games and the lame legend though. I really should finish it by this weekend.  :mrblue:  :mrblue:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 23, 2013, 02:30:33 PM
Yeah, I don't get how Bobby gets a 7 for the temple run because "he was so fast and got lucky with a production error." But David gets a mere 8 for the temple for mysterious reasons? :? But yeah, Ron totally deserves a low score for the moat. And if it's true that Ron was the Purple Parrot reject from Davy Crockett, then I'm pretty sure he did nearly the same thing too. Only he crossed first, and his partner just wasn't fast enough to ring in.

And Red Sash is a pretty good episode. Not much happens other than the Blue Barracudas dominate every round and make so many mistakes in the temple. So they should rank pretty well for you, even for the temple run. Gator should definitely rank VERY high for you. He got a very high score on my rankings of him, and PP319 gave him a high score when he ranked him last year. We all know what the best episode is from that day. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 23, 2013, 02:37:00 PM
I already finished the Apanuugpak score at least and I am sure Gator's score won't disappoint anyone here at all.  :mrgreen: Apanuugpak was definitely the best episode that day anyways. Poseidon was actually pretty good up until the temple run. I didn't like Lily-Crested Crown at all though. Pretty boring and uneventful. I ranked that one and Poseidon back-to-back, so that was pretty painful. At least Red Sash will be enjoyable though. The Blue Barracudas in that episode were probably the strongest Barracuda team after Jennifer and Damian and Missy and John.  :mrblue:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 23, 2013, 07:44:48 PM
Here it is - my rankings for the "Red Sash" day!  :mrblue:  :mrsilver:  :mrorange:  :mrgreen:

THE RED SASH OF TOKUGAWA IEYASU

Brandy
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7.5
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6.5
Overall: 7.40

Quentin
Moat: 8.5
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 8.30

Melody
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.38

Troy
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.88

NOTES:

Good episode, I forgot how strong Brandy and Quentin were. I also liked the moat crossing that was used on this day. The Red Jaguars really were no match for Brandy and Quentin either. The Red Jaguar girl kind of struggled to get across the moat, and they were last in crossing too.

I always managed to laugh at the "I am grounded for two weeks with no TV" line in this legend. The producers were so lame sometimes in S3. :roll: Even some of the questions they asked were stupid. The Blue Barracudas also finished first in the round too. The Red Jaguars barely advanced again, and the Red Jaguar boy did all of the answering.

The Blue Barracudas were very solid in the temple games. Quentin dominated the temple game where the players had to grab pieces of sun and jump up and hang them on the ceiling. The Red Jaguar boy was very sloppy and kept knocking his pieces down. The second game ended in a tie, but Brandy was the stronger player anyways. If she didn't miss one of her pieces, she would've won the game easily. Even though she missed the piece, she was still able to tie the game. The team game though was kind of sloppy on both team's parts and Brandy was kind of shooting all over the place. Quentin also knocked on of his pieces down which cost them time. But still, the Red Jaguars couldn't catch to save their life. :roll: Blue wins and goes onto the temple with two pendants.

The temple run was a very solid effort by Brandy and Quentin, but a mixture of hesitations and a tough layout were their downfall. Brandy wasted unnecessary time in the Room of the Ancient Warriors and in the Shrine. But I wanted to point out that the Quicksand Bog was NOT open for Brandy until she completed the Silver Monkey. Quentin hesitated too much himself and he should've just entered the Quicksand Bog instead of the Room of the Secret Password. The team still managed to finish in the room with the Red Sash. They didn't grab it in the end, but they put up a great effort. Plus, Brandy did make it back to the platform and they entered almost every room. While I think "Queen Boadicea" was slightly better and more exciting, I liked this run a lot too. :mrblue:

THE BROKENT TRIDENT OF POSEIDON

Kimberly
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7.5
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 3
Overall: 6.30

Tony
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 7.50

Elizabeth
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 3
Team Game: 7
Overall: 6.00

James
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Overall: 6.38

NOTES:
The moat in this episode seemed to give the teams a harder time than the last. The Green Monkey boy struggled pretty bad to get across the moat and he barely edged out against the Purple Parrots. Both the Silver Snakes and Green Monkeys were pretty weak during this moat.

The Silver Snakes turned around though, and swept the Steps of Knowledge. Actually, Tony swept the SoK and answered all the questions. Likewise, the Green Monkey boy did all the answering for his team at the Steps. The "Fucking Bucking Poseidon" game was not much better either. The Green Monkey boy literally fell off while Tony fell a second just before him. :shock: This temple game should've ended in a tie though, not a Silver Snake win. Tony fell off at the last few seconds and they didn't even count it.

The temple games though weren't as good as the last round. The first temple game featured a HORRIBLE performance by the Green Monkey girl. She struggled to jump up to the ceiling to grab the lightning bolts. The last 30 seconds of the temple game she couldn't even jump up halfway. :shock:

If you have been following Legends for even a short period, you know how big of a fail the temple run is. Kimberly grabbed the Brokent Trident with 53 seconds left AND still can't make it out of the temple. She had an easy layout with no temple guards and still can't get it done. She even drops the Trident to try the different suits of armor. :roll: Even before she grabbed the Trident, she was kind of slow and only reached it because of the easy layout. A good player is one that performs consistently while they are in the temple the entire time. She failed pretty bad and she should feel bad to about that performance.

Overall, this episode featured average teams with a disappointing and big failure in the temple run. Although it isn't a terrible episode by any means, but much better than the next episode at least.

THE LILY-CRESTED CROWN OF CLOVIS I

Katie
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5.5
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 3
Overall: 5.90

Judge
Moat: 8.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.50

Erica
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 4
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.50

Steven
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 5.5
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.25

NOTES:
Honestly, this was the weakest episode from this day. I found it even worse than "Poseidon". Neither team was really that great throughout. Kirk and Olmec also sounded pretty loud in this episode too.

The moat crossing was pretty good in this episode, and much better than the previous one. The Purple Parrots crossed with no problem, but Katie struggled a little bit. Judge's moat crossing was kick ass though and he literally ran across it like there was nothing to it. And the Silver Snakes were so obnoxious in this episode. Just watch how they dance at the end of the moat. -______________- Just imagine if they went to the temple? Not even Kate was that bad. :roll:
The first temple game was another ceiling jumping temple game. -_- Just like in "Poseidon", both players seemed to have trouble reaching the ceiling, but the game still ended in a tie in the end. Judge's temple game was pretty bad though. The Purple Parrot girl must've studied the Red Jaguar boy from "Bifocal Monocle" who couldn't pull himself through the whole in the giant maze game because she had the exact problem. :roll: She made more progress than that Red Jaguar boy did, but she was still pathetic. The team game was close though, but it was tied with the Orange Iguanas going to the temple with a 2-1.5 pendant score.

The temple run was a pretty big fail on Katie's part in the Chamber of the Sacred Markers. She was moving fast too before entering the Chamber. For whatever reason though, she went stupid and took over a minute to complete the room. I know the Chamber was never easy, but over a minute? Really? Even after completing that room, she moved pretty slow before being taken out in the Shrine. It was hard to evaluate Judge because all he did was follow up on Katie's path. But he moved at an average pace, so I gave him about an average score. This team really should've done better and this was one of those episodes where the Purple Parrots would've done better in the end.

THE MUSSEL-SHELL ARMOR OF APANUUGPAK

Amanda
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7.5
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 5.5
Overall: 7.20

Gator
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 10
Team Game: 8.5
Temple Run: 10
Overall: 9.20

Nikolette
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7.5
Team Game: 5
Overall: 7.13

Jarrod
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 5
Overall: 7.38

NOTES:
Finally, a production day where the best episode is saved for last.  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

Out of all the moats from this day, this one was definitely the quickest. All the teams that got across never fell in and it was almost hard to tell who rang in first. No bad scores for me at all for either the Green Monkeys or Red Jaguars in this round.

The temple games were great fun too. Finally, we don't have to see the stupid ceiling game too. :mryellow: The girls' temple game which involved them being upside-down was close, but Amanda was a little slower than the Red Jaguar girl. She almost loses her helmet too! At least they tied the game though. Gator smoked the Red Jaguar boy in his temple game. He completed it with no problem at all, although the Red Jaguar boy did good and was close behind. But Gator completed it like there was nothing to it. After being good for most of the episode, the Red Jaguars blow their load in the temple game. It took them until the final 4 seconds of the temple game to knock one of their soldiers down. The Green Monkeys had trouble too, but Gator was a good sport and helped Amanda out when it was her turn to shoot his balls. It was a tie in the end, but the Green Monkeys go to the temple.

The Steps of Knowledge were good, although that Blue Barracuda boy's voice. :roll: And his answers were too specific. :roll:

The temple run in this episode was a classic due to one player: Gator. Honestly though, I never found Amanda to be amazing. She was slow and wasted time dangling around the Pit. She got taken out in the Dark Forest with 1:30 left. I expect that from mediocre teams like Heather and Casey. But that didn't matter because Gator owned everything. He was super fast, very smart, and the real reason this team won! I wish we had more players like him on the show. He was one of the best players ever, and so was this win too.

As you can tell, my rankings for Gator are close to PP319's ranking of 9.20. He was an amazing player throughout and will probably have the highest score out of every player ever on the show. And for good reasons too.  :monkeys2:  :monkeys2:  :monkeys2:  :monkeys2:  :monkeys2:

FINAL NOTES:
This was a good production day, minus "Lily-Crested Crown". I still enjoyed this production day and 3/4 of these episodes are worth watching. Apanuugpak is the star episode of this day though. Here is my my final rankings:

APANUUGPAK > TOKUGAWA >>>>>>>> POSEIDON >>>>>>>>> LILY-CRESTED CROWN
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 23, 2013, 10:16:58 PM
At long last, your rankings for Apanuugpak's day! :mrgreen: :mrblue: My thoughts on them:

Red Sash was an okay episode. I haven't seen it in a while, but I remember the Blue Barracudas being very strong pre temple. And the Red Jaguars being no match for them whatsoever. And of course the ridiculous legend. XD The temple run was a nailbiter, they probably would've won if Brandy didn't complete the monkey when the Room of the Secret Password was already opened. Oh well, Brandy and Quentin did a good job.

Broken Trident was a decent episode until the temple. In the moat, it seemed like ALL the teams struggled to get across. It was also pretty voiced over and heavily edited too. Tony sweeps the steps for the Silver Snakes, so that sort of makes up for their rocky moat performance. In the temple games, it proved that the Green Monkeys were no match for the Silver Snakes. And BOTH Elizabeth and James were terrible in their games, especially Elizabeth. She couldn't even get the lightning bolts in the whole last half of the game. She even crossed into Kimberly's territory at one point. Oh well, at least the temple games are good for Kirk supposedly saying "fucking" instead of "bucking." :lol: And we all know about the temple run. When I did rankings on Kimberly, I gave her a "5." She was doing okay until she reached the artifact, where she of course.... drops the trident at the end. And then she has even worse exit plans by going into the Chamber, then down into the Tomb. Yet another "never send the slow witted player first" example. Come on, how hard is hold on to the artifact until you cross the temple gates? Olmec tells you this TWICE, both after he's done telling you the legend, and at the end of his giving of the temple rules. If it wasn't for her artifact dropping, she would've at least gotten a "6" for the temple run for me. After time was up, Kimberly looked both embarrassed and upset.

Lily Crested Crown is by far one of the most boring, filler episodes of all time. Judge was a beast during the moat, Katie kind of sucked. I totally remember the Silver Snakes doing that ridiculous dance after they crossed the moat. I don't know how they would've done in the temple, but I'm glad they didn't make it far anyways. :roll: I thought this episode was gonna be PP Pwnage with the Parrots being first in the moat and first during the steps. Unfortunately, they just barely fell short in the temple games. :( Erica kind of struggled in her temple game, but she wasn't Red Jaguar boy from Bifocal Monocle bad to me. Steven did an okay job, at the last second he pulled a flag down from the ceiling in his game. But it was an honest mistake, not cheating like someone here claimed once. He probably didn't realize that time had run out, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't counted anyways. The temple run sucked, Katie was doing an okay job until she reached the Chamber. And then took her sweet time finding that last marker. While the Chamber of the Sacred Markers is a pretty hard room, it shouldn't take you a while minute completing the objective. As soon as I saw that, I lost any and all hope for the run. Judge kind of sucked too, he kept running back and forth between the blocked off King's Storeroom/Ancient Warriors passage way. And couldn't even assemble the monkey on time. I gave him a "5" for the temple run in my rankings. Also, Olmec puts A LOT of emphasis on the "WITH" when saying, "return through the gates WITH the Lily Crested Crown...." Gee, I wonder why he had to do that, considering the last run we saw. -_-

And Apanuugpak was a GREAT episode! The moat has got to be the quickest in the show's history. I'm pretty sure the teams only needed 10 seconds to cross it. Gwalior's moat was short too, but I think Apanuugpak's was shorter. Gator was a beast this entire episode, especially during his temple game with the seal haven. He was up there in a flash like it was nothing, though Jarrod of the Red Jaguars was pretty fast as well. Amanda was a decent contestant as well, though she did kind of struggle in her temple game. And yes, her helmet was loose, though it was loose all episode. The Red Jaguars failed miserably in the team game. They couldn't even knock one soldier down until the very end. Gator and Amanda kind of struggled as well, but they at least knocked one down, by Gator. In the end, the Green Monkeys were clearly the better team. In the temple run, Amanda was an okay player, I didn't think she was bad really. Her only problems were in the Pit of the Pendulum, where she grabbed the rope too high. In my rankings of her, I gave her a "6." Gator was just incredible though. Seriously, there's no excuse NOT to give him a 10. He owned everything! He was so fast the cameras couldn't even keep up with him. I remember when I screencapped this episode last year, I couldn't even screencap Gator too much in the temple. From the time he took over for Amanda, until he reached the Dark Forest, I couldn't screencap him without the images coming out too blurry. Yeah, he was that fast. Alas, he reached the Mussel Shell Armor, and then escaped with 10 seconds left on the clock. Recording a very rare center of the room victory (the other being Lucky Pillow, another amazing run) in the process. :mrgreen: A 9.2 for Gator is a wonderful score for him, my average for him came out to be a 9.4. If these rankings were like a GPA, Gator would be our valedictorian for sure. David from Lawrence of Arabia would be salutatorian. :D

Overall, great rankings like always, and besides Lily Crested Crown, great filming day. My rankings would be as follows:

Apanuugpak >>>>>>>>>> Red Sash >>>>>>>> Poseidon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lily Crested Crown

Oh, and I fixed your post a bit so the smileys would actually work instead of being written in caps lock. And I changed the spelling on "Erica" and "Nickolette," and changed "Jared" to "Judge." ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 24, 2013, 03:26:36 PM
I think I am going to change Kimberly's score to a "4" in the temple run. A "5" would be for a contestant who was slow, average, or just didn't do anything noteworthy in the temple. Since she was already slow up until the Broken Trident, she would've gotten a 6 at most if she had never dropped the Trident. But her stupidity of dropping the Trident and trying to complete objectives when all doors were open made me knock her score down. Although Tony and Kimberly sort of looked alike in this episode. They both looked like they were the same ethnicity almost.

I am surprised you remembered that many details about "Lily-Crested Crown" though.  :o I have literally not watched that whole episode since the Nick GaS days. But yeah, the Silver Snakes dance was pretty cringeworthy and stupid. Even Kirk looked like he got annoyed with it too. I am pretty sure they were doing that stupid dance in the SoK. I also never noticed Olmec putting emphasis on the "WITH" either. :o It makes sense though considering what happened in the last temple run in Poseidon. :roll: I think I am going to knock down Judge's score to a "5" also in the temple. I rewatched the temple run again and forgot that he was backtracking. Rewatching this episode again reminds me on why I never bother to watch it again in the first place. :roll: And I am with you, I'd rather see the Purple Parrots than the Orange Iguanas. It's not like the Iguanas dominated them either. (They beat them 2-1.5)

And yeah, Apanuugpak's moat was fast. I think Gwalior's was slightly faster, but it was also pretty easier compared to "Apanuugpak's" moat. All they had to do was run across a bridge while the Apanuugpak day team had to run across broken icebergs. The episode was a great view and I can never get tired of watching it. Admittedly though, it's not in my top 5 episodes just because the earlier rounds were lightly less exciting than other episodes in my top 5 (Catherine the Great, Lawrence of Arabia, Map to the Lost Gold Mine, Annie Taylor, Pirate Captain, and Atocha). But still, it was a great view. And I agree with your rankings for David too.  :mrgreen: David, Gator, Jessica, and Jarrid all belong in the same rankings.  :mrgreen:

And thanks for changing those mistakes. I can't believe I called Judge "Jared". I was probably thinking of Katie and Jared from "Imperial Wizard".  :lol: For reference, here is production days I don't think have been covered in this topic:

S1L8 --> Covered by THK, but they were deleted.
Enourmous Iron Nose Ring, Ahmed Baba, Ivory Elephant, Missing Eye--> This might not be a bad day to cover. I might do this one next.
Lost Lion Tail, Cosa Rara, Sultan Suleiman, Jeweled Necklace --> Good luck with this production day, I could never sit through this one. :roll:
Mummified Hand, Egyptian Queen, Madame Tussaud, Lost Taj Mahal Turban --> Another production day that was pretty good that is worth doing.
Gwalior, Belle Boyd, Pytheas, Sojourner Truth --> I am already half-way done with this one, so this is another possible choice for me. But I like the "Ivory Elephant" day a little more.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: GreenMonkeys#1 on May 24, 2013, 03:32:33 PM
S1L8 --> Covered by THK, but they were deleted.
Enourmous Iron Nose Ring, Ahmed Baba, Ivory Elephant, Shriveled Hand --> This might not be a bad day to cover. I might do this one next.
Lost Lion Tail, Cosa Rara, Sultan Suleiman, Jeweled Necklace --> Good luck with this production day, I could never sit through this one. :roll:
Mummified Hand, Egyptian Queen, Madame Tussaud, Lost Taj Mahal Turban --> Another production day that was pretty good that is worth doing.
Gwalior, Belle Boyd, Pytheas, Sojourner Truth --> I am already half-way done with this one, so this is another possible choice for me. But I like the "Ivory Elephant" day a little more.
Missing Eye ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 24, 2013, 04:12:28 PM
Also, the first day of Season 2 was covered by THK before the database crash. And the final filming day of Season 3 hasn't be covered yet. I think RJF ranked that filming day, but it was also lost in the database crash. I was thinking of covering Metal Beard's filming day next, you can have Ivory Elephant/Tall Turban and Pytheas/Dried Ear of Corn's filming day. ;)

And you're right, Kimberly and Tony did look alike, same skin tone and sort of the same facial expressions. As for Kimberly's temple score, the reason I gave her a "5" is because she was doing fine up until she reached the Trident. If it wasn't for that, I would've given her at least a "6." Also, remember how Derrick was from Minnesota and not a native Floridian? Elizabeth of the Green Monkeys in Poseidon was from Mississippi, according to her player interviews. So she's not the only one that was not from Florida. Yes I actually remember that detail. :lol: Speaking of details, I can't believe I remember all the details from Lily Crested Crown either. It's easily one of the most forgettable episodes ever, yet I remember so much from it. Though I've seen it a million times, so that could explain it. :P
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 25, 2013, 12:58:49 AM
Considering "Clovis I" never played on Nick GaS much, I am surprise that you have seen it many times.  :mrorange: I so have to make a GIF of that Silver Snakes dance too. I am sure there were a lot of kids that weren't natives to Florida or the south on the show. It would've been nice if the show told us where more of them came from. Although we didn't know Derrick was from Minnesota until his interview.

And I think I have decided that I will do the Ivory Elephant day next. Now that Missing Eye is part of that day and not Efoua, that should be an interesting day to rank. This is how I remember it:

Enormous Iron Nose Ring: Fun episode with Joel's enthusiasm and Kirk's lame Fogg-up in the temple games. The temple win was pretty overrated, but Joel was still fast. I really don't know what score I would give Joel in the temple yet either. This one would be hard.
Ahmed Baba: What a boring episode and temple win. There was a reason I gave it a 5 in the Legends Episode ranking topic. Honestly, this is probably the least exciting episode that whole day.
Ivory Elephant: Another boring episode, although Brad and Monica were very strong prior to the temple. Too many mistakes in the temple though.  :?
Missing Eye: Another very fun and quirky episode. Four way tie on the second to last step, interesting temple game sequence along with the final temple game, and the temple run had a hilarious ending.

Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 25, 2013, 01:17:28 AM
Also, Missing Eye was first of the day. Just wanted to make sure you knew that, with the way you were describing the episodes above. ;) And yeah, this was a pretty good filming day. Missing Eye and Nose Ring were pretty exciting episodes, but I found Tall Turban and Scheherazade boring. Though the latter two episodes do feature that rare "climb up the tubes" temple game. What a coincidence that I just saw both Nose Ring and Scheherazade just recently. I look forward to seeing those rankings. :mrblue: :mrsilver: 
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 25, 2013, 01:29:51 AM
Oops, thanks for correcting that. All I remember was Enormous Iron Nose Ring/Ahmed Baba were taped back-to-back due to Joel and Jamie. And speaking of Jamie, it will be interesting to rank her. A lot of people say that she carried her team throughout the episode, but I haven't watched Ahmed Baba in a long time. Not that there was any reason to. But it was pretty cool for two siblings to both win the grand prize. Too bad Levi never had the same opportunity...  :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 25, 2013, 01:38:00 AM
Yeah, he totally got screwed over. Levi and Candace definitely should've gone to the temple in Xerxes, that's for sure. :roll: As for Jamie, I have her episode ranked, and she has only a 6.75 for me. She struggled a bit in the moat and her temple game, which brought her score down a bit. But I still preferred her to Shane, who only got a 6.6 ranking for me. It's not that they're bad rankings, but they're just average.

By the way TRJ, you should totally make the Silver Snakes dancing in Crested Crown as a GIF. I would love to see it, as ridiculous as the dancing was. :lol:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 25, 2013, 01:56:01 AM
Finally it to work. Even though I recorded it on Gifsoup, I am going to upload it to Photobucket later so it won't lag We should have a thread solely for Legends GIFs. :P


 (http://gifsoup.com/view/4695014/silversnakes-clovisi.html) GIFSoup (http://gifsoup.com)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 25, 2013, 02:01:33 AM
Awesome. :lol: And I think we have a GIF thread somewhere. Not on Legends, just GIFs in general. I could be wrong though. But if there's no thread for it, you're more than welcome to start it in the Jester's Court. :P

Anyways, to get back on topic, you can have Ivory Elephant and Pytheas's filming day, and I'll probably do Metal Beard's filming day next. Whenever you get around to doing it, that would be great.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 26, 2013, 11:00:34 PM
Time for some more rankings, and here is Metal Beard's filming day:

THE METAL BEARD OF THE EGYPTIAN QUEEN

TJ:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 8
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 8.25

Randy:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7.6

Stacy:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.25

Ryan:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.25

NOTES:

This was a great episode! Every round of this show was close, from the moat, all the way down to the temple run. On the Steps of Knowledge, TJ and Stacy were very smart and answered all their questions for their respective teams. Randy and Ryan also got an answer in there somewhere, so I still gave them a pretty good score. The temple games were a close competition between the Purple Parrots and the Green Monkeys. The Parrots especially had a VERY close call in the last temple game. Randy grabbed the last beard in the last seconds and came right from behind and tied the game up. Now let's get real here, the Purple Parrots totally have a bad track record when it comes to tiebreakers. And this is THE ONLY TIME THEY EVER WIN A TIEBREAKER! Trust me, there are a bunch of episodes that would've been better if Purple won instead. And the temple run was amazing. TJ was very quick and blazed through the bottom floor within a minute. Randy was even faster, and even grabbed the Metal Beard with under a minute left. She took a bizarre route out of the temple, but that should NOT detract from her progress. She made it back to the temple gates with 5 seconds to spare. Great job, very underrated win. I never understood why no one likes this win. By looking at the Green Monkey's scores, they also did a pretty good job and nobody got a below a 6, which is pretty impressive. But, it just wasn't enough to beat TJ and Randy.

THE MUMMIFIED HAND OF THE EGYPTIAN KING

Maggie:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 6.6

Josh:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7.4

Alexandra:
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 5
Overall: 5.75

CJ:
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Overall:  7

NOTES:

This was a decent episode. During the moat, it seemed like all the teams struggled, and it took a while. Even Josh and Maggie kind of struggled, but they weren't as bad as the other teams. The Steps of Knowledge were a double sweep between the Blue Barracudas and the Green Monkeys. I personally like double sweeps, even though it made the round feel very rushed. Kirk was pretty annoying during the temple games. After he asks  if the teams are ready, he loudly (and sarcastically) blurts out "Oh yeah, ME TOO!" And after the Blue Barracudas win the final temple game, there's this weird voiceover where Kirk says "Great teamwork guys!" That's obviously not something Kirk originally said, and he says "I had rocks in my mouth" to the Green Monkeys not long after. I don't know what happened there. :? Not much else to say except Alexandra sucked, and that's pretty much why her team didn't go to the temple. And the temple run.... was pretty bizarre. We all know Maggie dropped her pendant and was removed in only three rooms because of it. It's definitely something I do NOT hold against her, and a "7" is a pretty fitting score for her. Josh was pretty fast, and kudos to him for finding Maggie's pendant. Unfortunately, he made a MAJOR mistake of not following Maggie's bottom path. I know this is an unpopular opinion, but this was a huge mistake of Josh to do and he should've just stuck to the bottom floor. You should never take a different path with less than 2 pendants unless it's shorter. That said though, Josh made great time across the top floor, even though he did eventually get captured with about 50 seconds left on the clock. Methinks it was Josh and Maggie's plan all along to follow across the bottom floor. It was just Maggie couldn't get back on the platform. Good team, just bad luck.

THE LOST TAJ MAHAL TURBAN OF AURANGZEB

Dean:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.4

Chrystine:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7

Jennifer:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.5

Chad:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.25

NOTES:

Nothing special about this episode really. It was just an average episode all around. The Steps of Knowledge was pretty close though, and both losing teams answered at least 2 questions correctly. Jennifer of the Purple Parrots was especially smart during the Steps. Both teams did an okay job during the temple games, and the Purple Parrots were pretty strong. But, it just wasn't enough to beat Dean and Chrystine. the temple run wasn't too exciting, and Dean hesitated on many occasions. Chrystine was pretty fast and did well in the minute she had. She did unfortunately, pass up the half pendant though. But the pendant was tacked way too high on the Pit walls, so I don't blame her one bit for missing it. Even if she did find the half pendant, she still wouldn't have reached the Turban with a mere 14 seconds to go. This was not only the last triple capture on the show, but it was done in the shortest time ever. It's funny how the first triple capture "Golden Ship" was finished in the quickest time ever.

THE MELTED HEAD OF MADAME TUSSAUD

Nicholas:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.8

Jennifer:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.2

Brook:
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

Brian:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

NOTES:

I don't know if I'm alone on this, but I happen to like this episode. The temple run might've sucked, but the rest of the episode was very exciting actually. The Orange Iguanas did pretty well in the moat, and ended up being first to finish. The Purple Parrots struggled quite a bit on the other hand, and were the last team across. The Steps of Knowledge was yet another close round, it was like any one of these teams could've faced off in the temple games. The Orange Iguanas were pretty smart during the steps, and their final answer was answered by both players, so great teamwork there. The Purple Parrots were pretty smart as well, and I especially liked one of the answered Brook gave. She says "I forget what it's called...." much like Joe's "The tudors or whatever...." answer in Golden Ship. Alas, her answer was still acceptable and enough to join the Orange Iguanas on the final step. The temple games were a close round and featured a unique setup. I especially loved Jennifer's faceplant at the beginning of the third game. :lol: But she recovered quickly and won the game for the Iguanas at the last second. Although the final waxed head did miss the bucket because Jennifer threw it in there violently. She threw it in the bin, but it bounced right back out. I'm wondering if that would still count, or if a tiebreaker should've been forced. Even if it did come down to a tiebreaker, the Iguanas were still gonna beat out the Parrots anyways. Since they never have good luck in the tiebreaker, unlike one of the aforementioned episodes. As for the temple run, it pretty much sucked. The layout was exactly like Lost Hornpipe, only they actually had access to the King's Storeroom, and they lost. Nicholas is 100% to blame for why this team lost. He just had no idea what he was doing and he moved much too slowly. While traversing the central shaft is never an easy feat, it should never take you 2:20+ minutes to clear out those rooms. All that hesitation and the little time remaining when Nicholas finally DID get captured is basically why this team lost. Furthermore, I find Jennifer very underrated around here. If it's any player who gets "undeserved hate," it's her. I'm sorry a contestant can't run all the way to the very bottom corner of the temple, reach an artifact, and win in 40 seconds. I happened to think Jennifer did great in the time she had left. She pulled her weight just fine, her only hesitations were in the Pit, and she made it one room ahead of Nicholas. Plus, she almost assembled the monkey in time, which she did in a very effective fashion. She simply did not have enough time to make any reason progress, though a "6" is a fitting score for her. I just don't understand how she's comparable to Dana and Lauren. Who unlike Jennifer, did NOTHING with the little time they had. She had every right to yell at Nicholas, and I don't think she meant anything mal-intended with her shouting. She just sounded overexcited, not downright angry like Dana did. She's certainly not a terrible person she's made out to be and she wasn't clueless or a bad player at all. If Brian from Bent Shaving Pan gets a free pass for not making up for lost time, so should Jennifer. She's by far of the most underrated players ever, and Nicholas was completely to blame for why they lost. Perhaps if Jennifer had gone in first and used the King's Storeroom entry way, this team would've had a much better chance at reaching the Melted Head.

Overall, this was a pretty good filming day. It's funny how 3/4 of the artifacts were middle eastern themed. Even though Metal Beard was the only win that day, none of the episodes were truly bad in any way. And it's much better than some of the other filming days in Season 3.

Rankings:

Metal Beard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mummified Hand >>>>> Melted Head >>>>> Lost Taj Mahal Turban
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 27, 2013, 01:03:27 AM
Well, these rankings were fast. :P I expected you to post them in a week or two. :P Here is my opinion:

EGYPTIAN QUEEN:
We start off with the best episode from that production day and probably one of the best Purple Parrot episodes on the show.  :mrpurple: Egyptian Queen was a very strong episode, and TJ finishes with one of the highest scores so far. The Purple Parrots had some close calls this whole episode, but it was nice to see them benefit from them for once because they got shafted on close calls in the past (Butch Cassidy, Ahmed Baba, and Xerxes come to mind). I am not too fond of team's only winning their team game to force a tiebreaker, but this episode was very competitive that I don't mind making an exception. It was nice for the Purple Parrots to win a tiebreaker too. Even if this is their only tiebreaker win, it was very memorable and TJ and Randy made good of it.  The temple run is veyr solid and I actually like this one more than "Bandit Queen". The temple win was very exciting and both players were solid. TJ was veyr fast and laid out a good path all the way to the Dark Forest. Randy follows behind in moving at a very fast pace herself. She is forced to take the long way to the Shrine, but she climbed up the slide just fine. When she grabs the Metal Beard though, Randy makes the mistake of taking a very long and inefficient way out of the temple. This hurts her score a little too because a bad exit plan can doom a run. See Sir Edmund Hillary, Icarus, and the loser in my avatar. :roll: But her temple exit was very exciting and I have to admit that TJ's screaming adds some excitement to the run. It was nice to see the Purple Parrots win the tiebreaker AND win the temple run with it. This was a wonderful episode and falls into my top 20 episode list. This was the Purple Parrots' last temple appearance on the show, and TJ and Randy made good use of it.  :mrpurple:  :mrpurple:  :mrpurple:  :mrpurple:  :mrpurple:  :mrpurple:

MUMMIFIED HAND:
Mummified Hand was a good episode too. I have seen this episode plenty of times. I like how the producers made an episode about an Egyptian Queen and King back to back also.  :mryellow: "The Broken Wing of Icarus" was famous for having a double sweep of the Steps, but it also occurred in this episode too. The legend was pretty lame though and felt like it came out of some cheesy horror movie. And the artifact was creepy as hell. The temple games were very fun in this episode, and featured some pretty close competition. Josh was awesome at his individual game and the Blue Barracuda boy didn't knock down any of his soldiers. Maggie and Alexandra got the boulder swinging game. I swear this is the only time a player complete the boulder swinging game? Although the Green Monkey girl got a lucky break because it seemed like her boulder was swinging everywhere and making it easier to dodge than it was for Maggie. The Blue Barracudas win (two straight temple game losses for Green Monkeys in S3?!). The temple run is pretty exciting for a triple capture. Too bad we never got to see Maggie's potential. I am glad you weren't harsh on her because the whole pendant dropping was just an honest mistake. No player would ever do that on purpose. I would never hold that against her or Ty either. I am also glad you gave Josh a high score too because he did great. He moved very fast and you can't really blame him for trying the upper floor. If he stayed into the Tomb, he probably would've wasted time scaling the entire central shaft. But he also missed the half-pendant at the same time by doing this. He also had one of the fastest Silver Monkey assemblies on the show too. The path was very tough though and I think they would've only reached the Mummified Hand at best. Too bad they lost, but Dark Forest artifacts are always a pain in the ass.

LOST TAJ MAHAL TURBAN:
I will admit that I remember very few things about Lost Taj Mahal Turban. So the summary for this episode might be a little brief. Judging from your rankings though, it looked like the Purple Parrots were both stronger than Dean and Chrystine. I do remember the boulder swinging game from this episode. Really? Did they really have to use the same temple game for all four episodes? Chrystine looked like the better player all day too for the Green Monkeys. This temple run featured another triple capture. I would've given Dean a 5 in the temple though because he was a little too slow and hesitant for my taste. Especially in rooms like the Chamber and the King's Storeroom. I don't have a problem with Chrystine's score though. She did miss the semi-obvious half-pendant. But the half-pendant was tacked up very high in the Pit and she did got back and try to look for it. So it's not like she didn't know it wasn't there. She also had a fast Monkey assembly even though Dean had the base already on. Even if she found the half-pendant, the best the Green Monkeys would've done was reach the Taj Mahal Turban. This temple layout was almost exactly like Imperial Wizard minus the detouring into the Dark Forest. I wish I could write more about this episode, but I have not seen it in ages. :P It wasn't bad though IIRC.

MADAME TUSSAUD:
I like this episode too and I don't see how people make it out to be worse than what it really is. I think Jennifer's shouting gives this episode a bad reputation though. It was above average, but it was still memorable. This episode featured Jennifer's second chance on the show, where she didn't make it past the moat in "Mary Shelley". And surely enough, the Orange Iguanas did make good use of that second chance since they finished first in the moat. The artifact was very creepy and a little too detailed. I know Madame Tussaud worked in a wax museum, but did they really have to use a head for an artifact?  :shock: I remember the Steps for the Red Jaguars choking. The Red Jaguar girl got two answers without Olmec revealing any of the answers. Yet they didn't make it to the temple games? Both Nicholas and Jennifer though were answering questions, even in unison. The temple games were fun too, but of course they reused the boulder swinging game and the boulder blocking game. :roll: But the boulder swinging game was memorable for Jennifer taking a face plant. :lol: Luckily she recovered from it just fine though and the Iguanas still won. The temple run though was very annoying, and that was due to Nicholas' incompetence. I would've given Nick a score of a 4 in the temple run. He wasted so much time pulling on vines and hesitating in the Room of the Ancient Warriors. Plus, he moved like a snail up the central shaft. By the time he got taken out, this team had no chance to win. I don't know how people can harp on Jennifer though. She did great with the little time she had. She cut straight to the King's Storeroom and almost assembled the Silver Monkey. I agree, I don't understand how Brian can get a free pass but Jennifer is always getting criticized? They would've done better if Jennifer went into the temple first! Too bad that wasn't the strategy though. Overall, this episode is definitely not as bad as people make it out to be.

Also, I am pretty sure OlmecFan25 called Jennifer and Elisa (Ivan the Terrible) blabbermouths or something like that in the comment section for this video.  :evil:  I can't believe anyone would think Elisa was a blabbermouth. Maybe I should leave a comment to tell him to go back and watch Smashed Printing Plate and William Tell and tell me if he still thinks either of these girls had big mouths. Heck, even Jay from Empress Eugenie was guilty of this too.

Here are my overall rankings:

Egyptian Queen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mummified Hand > Madame Tussaud > Lost Taj Mahal Turban

There is not much difference between the last three episodes from this day. I would all rate them 6/10. It was still a good day though and there was no real bad outlier episode like other days seemed to have. Which is a good change of pace for once.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 27, 2013, 01:52:11 AM
Well, I had these cut and pasted from a word document, and I finished these rankings over a month ago. So that explains why this was so quick to be put up. :P I have almost every episode ranked, so I can very easily cut and paste a filming day worth of rankings here in little time. ;)

Yeah, it was great to finally see a Purple Parrot team win a tiebreaker. When they'd otherwise get screwed over like they have in the past. And I can't believe I forgot to talk about TJ's screaming. That was pretty funny to hear, and it also added to the excitement. I also remember Mummified Hand have a lame legend, and another "hand" artifact. I swear, by Season 3, the legends were becoming parody's of themselves. :roll: I also remember Josh doing great in his individual game. Though neither team knocked over a column other than the one Josh did. I might have to deduct more from the Green Monkey boy. And the Green Monkey girl did get pretty lucky with the swinging obstacle game. Those games were never really played fairly, except for in Metal Beard and in Melted Head. And yes, this is one of two times where Blue beats Green in the temple games in Season 3. Though this episode came before Gwalior, so this was the first to achieve that. :azn: I agree about Maggie's score too, we really didn't see enough of her due to the pendant drop. And she certainly didn't drop the pendant on purpose, the elastic on the pendant just rubbed off strangely on her. Josh did a great job, but taking a different path than your partner is still never a good idea with less than 2 pendants. If the whole pendant dropping ordeal didn't happen, they would've at least reached the Mummified Hand. But I doubt they would've won.

Yes, the swinging obstacle game was used in all four episodes this day. Though Metal Beard and Melted Head used it as a team game. Lost Taj Mahal Turban and Mummified Hand used it an an individual game, and had all three temple games in common. It got pretty tiresome using the same games over and over. As for Dean and Chrystine, Dean was much slower than Chrystine was. Maybe a "5" would've been more fitting for his temple performance. Chrystine was much faster, and I don't blame her one bit for missing the half pendant. This run is definitely a lot like Imperial Wizard, with slow frontrunner and speedy backrunner, being a boy and girl respectively. And it had the same artifact location and almost the same path. Oh well, they probably could've reached the Turban at the last second if it wasn't for the triple capture. But, who really knows? And it's funny how your description of Taj Mahal Turban was as short as my description of it. It's a rather boring episode really and nothing happens, so I don't blame you there.

And Melted Head is definitely overlooked. I may have to deduct more from Nicholas now that I think about it. The guy was so slow and dilly dallying around, Jennifer was right to be hard on him. This team would've been in much better shape had Jennifer gone in first. Hell, she probably would've won it for the team if she really got lucky with the temple guard layouts and had a solo victory. Then people wouldn't complain about her and call her a bad person. I don't know how Brian gets defended for having little time left. But Jennifer has the same problem and people are too hard on her. That's one player I'm definitely gonna defend should her name pop up in the "undeserved hate" thread.

And hold the phone, OlmecFan25 calls Elisa a blabbermouth?! :shock: Did he watch the same run we did? Elisa was both excited AND enthusiastic, AND rocked it in the temple. She had by far the hardest layout in the shows history, and she's being deemed annoying?! You should TOTALLY comment on his video and defend her! I mean, the likes of Jay and Jennifer had every right to shout at their partner. And so did Elisa, there's a difference between shouting words of encouragement, and shouting words of frustration. Not to mention, he was ultra snippy towards Damien in the comment section of the Pytheas video. He was like "You realize you were slower than Brittany, right?" Damien's comeback was "You realize I was 12 back then and everyone lost, right?" I know everyone's got their opinions, but how can anyone complain about Elisa? :?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 27, 2013, 06:56:12 PM
Was the Egyptian Queen episode the last Purple Parrot tiebreaker? If so, good thing that TJ and Randy got it correct then. Although it would've been much better if it was against the Orange Iguanas. After all those tiebreaker losses in S3 alone like Sir Gawain, Enormous Feather, and the lowly Xerxes, the Purple Parrots were overdue for something to go their way for once.

It always annoys me when the producers used the same temple game too many times in one production day. It happened during the Freydis day where they used the swinging bags game for the first three episodes. But all four episodes using the same temple game? The whole "swinging boulder" game was overused in general for S3 I guess. I shouldn't try and act surprised at all. As for the Mummified Hand layout, that temple layout is kind of overlooked for it's difficulty. Not matter what path Maggie and Josh took it would've required them to enter a lot of rooms. I actually thought it was a good idea for Josh to stay to the top of the temple because if he stayed at the bottom, he would've been forced up the central shaft more likely. He probably figured he was safe from triple capture if he stayed at the top with a full pendant. Heck, I didn't expect this run to end in triple capture when Josh found Maggie's pendant. Too bad, but it was still a very exciting loss.

When it came to Jennifer in "Madame Tussaud" , I never gave her a hard time for screaming at Nicholas. I was more annoyed at Nicholas not getting his act together than worrying about Jennifer's screaming. I bet all the people that give Jennifer a hard time would probably take her as a frontrunner over Nicholas. And I was very surprised that he called Elisa a blabbermouth. I never ever though of Elisa as one. In fact, I enjoyed her enthusiasm. It added a lot of excitement to her episode and run. And it's not like she ever yelled at Travis either. As for Damien, I would never act like that if that was that particular contestant in question. Heck, I don't even mind Damien that much and at least the Orange Iguanas made it one room away from that run. If this was John and Tia though, please feel free to act extra snippy.  :o
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 27, 2013, 07:04:34 PM
Sir Gawain wasn't a tiebreaker loss, Silver Horseshoe and Levitating Dog Leash were though. Either way, the Purple Parrots were definitely overdue for a tiebreaker win. And what a better way to do it than to come from behind and win the third game.

I definitely remember Freydis's filming day using the "swinging obstacle game" a little too much. And of course, Metal Beard's day for overusing the giant boulder game. What is it with the producers and overusing "obstacle" esque games? :lol: And total word on ragging on John and Tia, should they ever show their faces on YouTube. As slow as Damien was, at least he made it one room away from his artifact. Plus, he was in the same boat as Chrystine, assembled the monkey in 9 seconds, albeit with the base already in place. So there's something positive, right?

Anyways, I'd be interesting to see how Joel and Shane rank, assuming you still want to do that filming day next. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 17, 2013, 10:35:31 PM
To revive this thread, I'm gonna review S1L5:

PONCE DE LEON AND THE LOST FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH

James:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.6

Jessica:
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 5.6

Cory:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.25

Elena:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.25

NOTES:

God, this episode was so boring. Literally nothing happened other than the double sweep on the Steps of Knowledge, and the one room away guard in the Heart Room. I really don't have anything to say about this episode, and the rankings could probably do all the talking. Neither team was impressive, especially not Jessica. Who not only got the lowest score out of the above players, but was utterly clueless in the temple. I know she only had 38 seconds left on the clock, but running fast between the same rooms in little time doesn't gain any pity from me.

THE TREASURE MAP OF JEAN LAFITTE

Aaron:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 4
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5.8

Teri Kay:
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 5.6

Rex:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 8
Tiebreaker: -1
Overall: 7

Jacqueline:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 5.75

NOTES: Another lackluster episode. You know nothing good can come from this episode when 3/4 players had an average of 5. The Blue Barracudas in this episode barely scraped by each round, and they only got to the temple because the Red Jaguars choked at the tiebreaker. And the temple games themselves were pretty one sided. Aaron sucked at his game, and Rex did great. On the other hand, Teri Kay did a decent job in her game, while Jacqueline sucked. The third game wasn't half bad, and it came down to a tiebreaker, where it seemed like all four players didn't know the answer. Now, in THK's rankings, he deducted points on all four players for not knowing the tiebreaker answer right away. Rex I can understand getting points taken off, but all four players? I find that to be pointless. While I'm not gonna add points to Aaron and Teri Kay's scores for winning by default, I'm not gonna deduct points either. The temple run sucked, mostly because both players moved much too slowly, and took different paths. Which is something you should NEVER do with less than 2 pendants. Even if they had progressed further, they would've been caught by three temple guards. Oh yeah, and Teri Kay couldn't assemble the monkey to save her life. Plus, she had to be the shortest contestant in the shows history. :shock: If the Red Jaguars hadn't choked at the tiebreaker, they probably would've done a better job in the temple.

THE ORACLE BOWL OF DELPHI

Shane:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7.8

Jackie:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 3
Overall: 5.8

Mike:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

Jamie:
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 2
Team Game: 6
Overall: 4.75

NOTES:

Well, this episode was a slight improvement compared to the past two episodes. And it's the first time the Purple Parrots make it to the temple, where they dominated every round. :mrpurple: If it's one positive thing I can say. By looking at these rankings, both male players did great, and both female players sucked. And compared to THK's rankings of these episodes, everyone's scores are a full digit higher than his. Mostly because of the Steps of Knowledge, where Jackie got a "1" just because she never rang in. Jackie may be a crummy player, but I REFUSE to give out a "1" if you don't respond. Jamie also got a low score for the Steps as well. In the temple games, Shane was a BEAST in his game. He got all the way to the top of the watery ramp with 33 seconds to spare, despite the difficulty Shane supposedly had. Though Shane did claim his "strong legs" gave him an advantage of winning. Jamie was pathetic in her temple game though. It was the one where the girls had to put jewel eyes on the pedestals while traversing a soapy field. Jamie spent the entire temple game scrambling to even make it to the first pedestal. Jackie struggled quite a bit too, but at least she got two jewels up, so that explains why she got a higher score. Neither team was impressive in the team game, but it did end in a tie, where the Purple Parrots go to the temple with 2 pendants! The temple run sucked, all thanks to Jackie. Shane was very speedy in the minute he was in the temple. Though I could only give him an "8" for taking the direct path, and for the fact he didn't last very long. The second Jackie entered the temple, the temple run turned into a disaster. She was way too slow and was downright clueless in every room she entered. She didn't even push down on the wall hard enough in the Tomb! She eventually makes it to the Pirate's Cove, where she spent the last 40 seconds not getting the "torch" aspect. Though even Kirk had no idea what the objective was either, so I guess you can't blame her. This definitely should've been reserve order of players. If Shane had gone in second instead of Jackie, they would've had a much better chance at reaching the Oracle Bowl. Overall, it was an okay episode until the temple run.

THE PAINTBRUSH OF LEONARDO DA VINCI

Katie:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.4

Roberto:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 4
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5.6

Ansie:
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 3
Overall: 5.25

Chris:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 2
Overall: 5

NOTES:

Yet another episode where almost all the players receive sub par scores. The moat for this episode had downright terrible editing. This must've been a very long most pre edit because it kept awkwardly cutting at most random moments. Plus, after Kirk introduces which teams advance from the moat, it shows footage of the teams still crossing the moat instead of the four winning teams just standing around. I hope whoever edited that particular moat got fired. :? The Steps of Knowledge were the best part of the episode. It featured a rare four way tie on the second to last step, which also happened in "The Missing Eye of David." It was only a matter of who rang in first, and in the end, it was the Orange Iguanas and the Blue Barracudas who got to advance to the temple games. While the temple games featured a unique sequence, neither team was very impressive. Roberto and Chris both struggled in their temple game where they had to climb up the ramp and pull down the paint buckets. Though they were dealing with paint, (an aspect of the game I quite liked), so I can definitely see how the ramp would be hard to climb up. Katie did very well in her temple game, where they had to put red X's on the paintings on each side of the playing field. The Blue Barracudas REALLY blew their load in the last game. They just couldn't get a good rhythm down the entire game. So that helped the Orange Iguanas win the temple game, and a trip to the temple in the end. The temple run featured a downright brutal layout. In THK's rankings, Katie got a "3" for the temple run and said she was clueless in the temple. I disagree with that, Katie really wasn't that bad or clueless at all. She did move pretty slow, but their layout was just impossible. The players weren't bad, just the outcome was. And to think, the very same layout was used again in "The Stone Marker of Leif Erickson." Why the production crew would want to repeat a temple layout is beyond me. :roll:

Overall, this was a pretty lackluster filming day, and it was the only Season 1 production day that had no wins. Including the episodes (Blackbeard and Belshazzar) that were originally intended to be filmed in S1L1. You will also notice I didn't include Blackbeard in the mix, despite that episode being filmed in S1L5 in its entirety. That's because when THK did these rankings, he started with the intended S1L1 episodes, also including Belshazzar. While Blackbeard is NOT "the first episode ever recorded" that some people like to claim, I wanted to keep the format consistent. Since THK only ranked four S1L5 episodes, I figured I should do the same as well.

Paintbrush >> Oracle Bowl >>>> Ponce de Leon >>>> Jean Lafitte
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 17, 2013, 11:19:19 PM
S1L5 was such an awful production day. It is literally the only temple layout (not production day) on the show where there are no victories. Most of these episodes were lackluster and bland also. I don't remember any details about any of them except "Oracle Bowl".

Lost Fountain of Youth was definitely a boring and uneventful episode. I remember nothing about the earlier rounds at all either. James also looked like a doofus throughout this episode too. Judging from your score, it looks like the Blue Barracudas were the more consistently good team. James was also a much better player than Jessica too. The temple run was pretty boring and they deserved to lose after taking the path they took. The temple guard layout was unfair, but they didn't know what they were doing. James was hesitant and took the longest way out of the temple. I don't know how anyone could have sympathy for Jessica either. She ran all the way to the Shrine and then backtrack to the Observatory as if the Heart Room opened from that room. Pretty boring and lame episode. :roll:

Jean Lafitte was such a crappy episode and the Barracudas worst episode on the whole show. The fact that the Blue Barracudas only went to the temple due to the Red Jaguars ringing in incorrectly was a load of crap. I guess that was revenge for "Alhambra". -_- Which is too bad also, since Rex actually finished with a good score. I hate this temple run also, it was not good at all. Aaron was an alright player, but he wasn't that great though. The Troubled Bridge door getting jammed was a little unfair though. But then Terry Kay enters the temple and she doesn't know what she is doing... at all. She takes a different path than Aaron while holding only a half-pendant. She also moves ridiculously slow and her Silver Monkey assembly was laughable. She probably would've beaten Jessica's record from "Lost Logbooks" for slowest Silver Monkey assembly. It was a bland and boring temple run, and I hate it. :roll:

Oracle Bowl was a good episode up until the temple run. For the record, I think your scores are much more accurate than THK's score for both Shane and Jackie. They weren't bad players in the earlier rounds at all. I never give a player a "1" in the Steps unless they are horrible players like the Silver Snake boy in "The Trojan Horseshoe". He did the same crap for Jennifer and Damian from "Map to the Lost Gold Mine" and made them look worser than what they really performed. But you're right, Shane was the much better player. The Silver Snake boy struggled in his individual game and didn't even get his boulder half-way up before Shane got his to the top. The Silver Snake girl sucked in her temple game, and she didn't even get any eyes I believe on her side of the mat. :roll: The temple run though is a pretty big fail. Shane was an awesome player, but Jackie was not good at all. She had trouble navigating the Cave of Sighs and couldn't even plow through the wall into the Dungeon. And in the Pirate's Cove, she wasted her remaining time getting lost. Although in her defense, not even Kirk knew what to do in that room for a good 15 seconds and Olmec never explained the objective either. She was a slow player anyways and I don't think they would've won even if Jackie went into the temple first.

Leonardo Da Vinci was another average episode. While it was forgettable, I do remember certain details. The artifact was very lame and they could've done better for Da Vinci. We see a rare 4-way tie on the Steps (happened only in Missing Eye) and a rare Orange-Blue temple game. I do remember the paint bucket temple game also. :P I don't blame the players struggling in the last temple game either. That temple game seemed to give a lot of teams trouble. Like the Purple Parrots in "Golden Chains" for example. The temple run was pretty lackluster, but I don't really blame Katie and Roberto either. I definitely don't think Katie deserved a "3" in the temple. She moved fine and she got held up by the Swamp dead-end. It was pretty lame for the producers to even use that as a dead-end. :roll: And even after encountering the Swamp dead-end, the team is forced up the entire central shaft where Katie meets her second guard. Really? Why not let the Heart Room open? Roberto seemed like a lost cause for me though. He put himself into the Wheel Room wheel when the door in the Pit was already open. Oh well, it's not like they would've won anyways. The fact they used this layout for "Stone Marker" was very uncreative and lazy on their parts. -_-

Overall, this was a boring and uneventful production day. None of the teams in any of the temple runs came close to winning. I would rate each of these episodes 5/10 or less. I think we can all thank you though for not doing "Blackbeard". That episode is just unbearable to watch with all of the above. My rankings:

Da Vinci > Oracle Bowl > Lost Fountain of Youth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean Lafitte
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 18, 2013, 01:11:49 AM
Yeah, this was a terrible day. I just thought I would compare my rankings to THK's rankings, in which my scores are much higher than his. I remember he gave James a "4" for the temple run, and a "7" to Jessica originally. On the grounds that "she moved fast and that automatically makes her a good player." I think he changed it when you called him out on it and he changed their scores both to a "5." Maybe the next production day I rank will be much better, though I have no idea what I want to rank next.

And you're welcome.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 18, 2013, 01:44:37 AM
Yeah, that never made sense to me on why Jessica would even get a higher score than James. Not that James was anything special, but he certainly was not outperformed by his partner. Jessica didn't even make it to half-way where James was taken out and turned around to try and enter the Heart Room. Although his scores were always inconsistent. Gabby and Joe having the same temple run score as Jennifer (Map to the Lost Gold Mine)? Or Bobby even having a better temple score than Lea (Sultan Saladin) and Jennifer?  :roll:  :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 18, 2013, 02:16:27 AM
Oh, Lea getting a worse score than Bobby, Joe, and Gabby was beyond ridiculous. I mean, yes Lea tried for a direct path, but that strategy helped her win. But Bobby does pretty much the same thing and just because he's fast, it's suddenly a better win than John Sutter and Sultan Saladin? I try to be as fair as possible and don't take points off for every little mistake a contestant makes. :?

Just for the record, here's a list of production days that haven't been re done (for comparisons) yet:
S1L1/Galileo's Cannonball
S1L3/Sultan Saladin/Alhambra
S1L6/Buddha/Joan of Arc
S1L7/Sir Edmund Hilary/Shaka Zulu

And here's what hasn't been covered at all yet:
S1L8/King Tut/Mata Hari (started by THK, but got lost in the database crash)
Silver Horseshoe/Silver Cannonball (also started by THK, but lost in the database crash)
Missing Eye/Tall Turban (possible one to do next)
Sultan Suleiman/Montezuma
Secret Map/Thornwood Gavel
Belle Boyd/Pytheas (another possible one)
Jeweled Scabbard/Jewel Encrusted Egg

I might do the Montezuma filming day next, just to see how low Lost Lion Tail ranks. Either that or the final filming day of Season 3. And I do have completed rankings for the latter's filming day, it's just a matter of me posting them.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 18, 2013, 02:33:16 AM
Lea was awesome in the temple. I would seriously give her a score of an 8 in the temple. Direct path aside, she rocked. She moved fast and tried every shortcut available to her. And she got the first solo victory and central shaft victory on the show. That was no easy feat at all. And I seriously hate Bobby more and more everytime someone says something amazing about him.  :roll:

I think you should do Benzibab/Catherine the Great. Now that would be an awesome production day to do. Even Empress Eugenie was amazing as the other three were.  :mrgreen: It would be interesting to see how the Barracudas and Green Monkeys rank in the team game in "Sforza". And how the temple runners in Benzibab and Sforza rank. And also what type of score Jay ends up with.

But good luck with the Montezuma day though. It probably wouldn't be so bad for you since you probably know Sultan Suleiman and Lost Lion Tail by heart. ;) And you just watched Cosa Rara for the episode ranking, so that might be fresh too you. Montezuma is the only episode that day I even come close to liking. :o

I wouldn't mind doing Galileo's Cannonball day though. If I would do that though, I probably would stay away from Blackbeard's Treasure Map because that doesn't feel like a S1L1 episode for me. And Galileo's Cannonball is awesome, and I wouldn't ever mind rewatching it.  :mrsilver:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 18, 2013, 02:53:12 AM
Yeah, I gave her an 8 for my player rankings of her. Direct path aside, she did a solid job. And I agree about Bobby, and your sentiments on all the other overrated contestants everytime someone says something nice about them. :roll: And I might just do the final filming day of Season 3 next, since again, I already have all four of those episodes ranked. For Montezuma's filming day, I have every episode except Lost Lion Tail ranked. I would have to watch Lost Lion Tail just for the sake of completion. Something I'm not looking forward to. -_- In fact, there are only 7 or so episodes I haven't ranked yet, which include Blackbeard, Shiva, Alhambra, Lion Slashed Jacket, etc. to name a few. You can have Galileo's Cannonball's filming day, even if it means avoiding Blackbeard. I know you wanted to do Enormous Iron Nose Ring's filming day, even though you never really got around to it. :P
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 19, 2013, 11:28:19 PM
I could've sworn someone did the Thornwood Gavel day? If not, I definitely will take that one next. I am assuming that Chandragupta was part of the same day too as Thornwood Gavel and Bandit Queen. Sounds like a good deal to me, and I would love to see how Zac (Bandit Queen) and Kelli (Judge Roy Bean) rank. Should be an interesting day.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 19, 2013, 11:59:20 PM
Yeah, it goes Chandragupta/Lion Slashed Jacket/Secret Map/Thornwood Gavel. Nobody has done that one yet, and if they did, it must've been during the database crash. I would definitely love to see Zac and Thornwood Gavel's Mike's scores. If that's the one you're gonna post next.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 10, 2013, 11:57:18 PM
It's been a while since anyone has done rankings, so I'm gonna do Sultan Suleiman's filming day:

THE SACRED RING OF THE SULTAN SULEIMAN

Brian:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 6

Gracelyn:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.2

Chris:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.75

Melissa:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

NOTES:

Wow, take a look at that. Not good when the team you beat in the temple games scores higher than you. Besides the temple run, this episode really wasn't bad at all. During the moat, it was funny how Brian had made it across, but left Gracelyn hanging. Naturally, they ended up ringing in last. It was also funny how the moat order was literally Red - Blue - Green - Purple. The temple games featured a unique sequence, where each temple game connected to each other story wise. Brian sucked in the game where you have to remove the ring from the totem pole. Chris on the other hand was a BEAST and got his ring off in no time. For the girls temple game, they had the squirting game where you had to actually memorize the sequence of which holes squirted water first. Unlike in "Annie Taylor" and "Silver Cannonball," this game was graded because it all came down to who got the most guesses correct. In the end, Gracelyn ended up winning. For the team game, it was the giant steps game, where you had to put a ring on the finger on top. It was neck and neck, but the Purple Parrots just barely edged out the Blue Barracudas at the end. The temple run sucked, all thanks to Brian. First of all, he detoured into the Ledges, where a temple guard took his pendant. He stalls immensely in there, and wastes so much time. Another blunder he made was NOT signaling back the half pendant to Gracelyn. Thankfully, Brian is removed in the Observatory. While Gracelyn seemed to know what she was doing somewhat, she was waaaaay too slow. After completing the King's Storeroom objective, she heads into Medusa's Lair, where the third temple guard puts an end to the run with 46 seconds remaining. I'm pretty sure the door to the Shrine did not open, but the Observatory/Medusa's Lair door did, but Gracelyn never took it. If it's any consolation, this is the only triple capture the Purple Parrots had. But this outcome could've easily have been prevented if Brian didn't detour into the Ledges. I may be alone on this, but I blame Brian much more than I do Gracelyn. Because like I said above, her only problem was moving too slow.

THE PLUMED HEADDRESS OF COSA RARA

Justin:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7.6

Jessica:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 6

Mary:
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.75

Danny:
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.25

NOTES:

I hate this episode so much. I reviewed this episode not long ago in the Episode Rankings thread, where it got a VERY low score. The moat is heavily edited because the teams can't seem to get across those tires. It came down to the Red Jaguars, Orange Iguanas, and the Purple Parrots, and nobody was getting across. In the end, the Red Jaguars took the final spot. If it's one thing positive though, the Blue Barracudas were amazing getting across! They were across in 20 seconds, and the Green Monkeys were equally as fast as well. They were the only teams to not struggle with the moat really. The temple games, like in Sacred Ring, featured yet another unique sequence. Though the temple game results were very one sided. You could totally tell who was going to win in all three games. Jessica was pathetic in the game where you have to gold on to the spinning horse. She was dangling the whole time, though it's not like she should've fallen off sooner like some people like to claim. Either way, Mary of the Blue Barracudas ended up winning the game. Justin was a beast in the climb the totem pole game. He had gotten all the merlins on the top cube/square before time was up! In the team game, the Blue Barracudas lagged behind the whole time. But the Green Monkeys kept a solid lead, which helped them win both this game, and a trip to the temple. The temple run featured yet another disappointment. It's one of those runs where the frontrunner is really fast, and the second runner is really slow. Justin did a great job in the temple. He scaled the whole central shaft, and made it all the way to the King's Storeroom with 1:40 left on the clock. Jessica was a painfully slow runner. While she did grab the half pendant, it didn't matter. She only added one room to her progress and couldn't even assemble the monkey in time. Though even if she had gone in first, they still would've lost anyways, so I guess it doesn't really matter.

THE JEWELED NECKLACE OF MONTEZUMA

Kevin:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.6

Kelly:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.6

Amy:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.5

Caspian:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 2
Team Game: 6
Overall: 5.5

NOTES:

Finally a halfway decent episode. The moat in this episode was MUCH better than in the previous one. Kevin and Kelly were very in fast crossing and were the first team to finish. The Steps of Knowledge featured a double sweep between the Red Jaguars and the Blue Barracudas. Both Kevin and Caspian answered all the questions for their respective teams. The temple games featured a decent sequence, just like the previous episodes did. Both Kelly and Amy were neck and neck in the rotating Olmec wheel game. Kelly fell off the wheel a few times, which is why I gave her a lower score. But in the end, they managed to tie their game. Caspian was TERRIBLE in his game. He couldn't balance himself on the zipline if his life depended on it. He kept falling off the entire game. He started to get the hang of it towards the end of the game, but it was too little too late. Kevin however, was very dominant and naturally won. Neither player on the Blue Barracudas were very impressive in the team game, which once again featured the giant steps. They lagged behind the whole time, which gave the Red Jaguars an opening, and helped them win their game and go to the temple! The temple run was a vast improvement over the past two runs, but it was a tad disappointing. Both Kevin and Kelly would've had a much better chance at winning if Kevin didn't constantly beeline for a direct path, and if Kelly didn't fail epically with the monkey. This could've been a Enormous Iron Nose Ring type solo win too, where all three guards were avoidable. But oh well, still a decent temple run nonetheless.

THE LOST LION TAIL OF LITTLE JOHN

Marie:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.8

Claude:
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 4
Team Game: 5
Temple Run: 2
Overall: 4.4

Amanda:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

Chaz:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.5

NOTES:

Want some further proof the Silver Snakes were screwed in the temple games? Take a took at Claude's score. He managed to get the SAME SCORE as John and Tia, a measly 4.4 average. Which is the same score TRJ gave them in his rankings. Claude just didn't belong on the show. He was too slow crossing the moat, got owned in his individual game, and he was a complete and utter lost cause in the temple. The only thing that prevents him from getting a "1," was his finding of the half pendant in the Swamp, which he needed in the Dark Forest. That's definitely not something Renee from Nzinga can't say. As for the rest of this episode, it wasn't that great really. During the Steps, the Blue Barracudas had a VERY early lead. They swept through the first two questions, but rang in wrong for the third question. And then never attempted to ring in again for the rest of the round. I wonder how much better they would've fared in the temple games. Marie definitely carried the team through the temple, and she wasn't that bad at all in the temple run. Her only problem was missing the bucket in the Rock Quarry a few times. To make up for it, she's the only contestant to pull off the white laser on the first panel. So that's why I gave her a "6" for the temple run. Her downfall.... was  obviously Claude. Seriously, an average below 5 is not good at all for a team that only got to the temple on a lucky break. Especially when everyone else scored significantly higher than him. Just, I don't want to waste anymore time talking about this episode....

Overall, pretty bad filming day. The only episode I can even come close to liking is "The Jeweled Necklace of Montezuma," and even that run was a loss. With an epic fail with the silver monkey to boot. I should also note that I've been meaning to post a list of the Top 10 Best/Worst rated players we have so far. I already have the list put together, but I just need to post it. So be on the look out for that. ;)

Montezuma >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sacred Ring >>>>>>>> Cosa Rara >>>>>>> Lost Lion Tail
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 11, 2013, 03:34:55 AM
The Sultan Suleiman production day, the one day that makes the Purple Parrot fans cry. The Purple Parrots get two rare temple appearances, but they turn out to be crap. Actually, the whole day was crap save for Montezuma.

Sultan Suleiman was a pretty good episode before the temple run. It was the only thing that saved this episode from being utter garbage. I didn't really care for the Babylonian moat crossing for this production day either. It's amazing that Brian got a lower score then Gracelyn. I always thought that Brian was the strong one before the temple? Actually, it is pretty embarrassing that the Blue Barracudas out-played the Purple Parrots and STILL lost. Chris of the Blue Barracudas was strong in general and he dominated his individual game. If his team went to the temple, I am sure his score would've been higher. Speaking of the temple run, it was pretty pathetic how it ended. I blame Brian for most of the loss and I agree he deserves a lower score. He shouldn't have entered the Ledges after only trying one book in the Crypt. And he never signaled the half-pendant back to Gracelyn either. I mean why not since the other piece was right in front of him on the Troubled Bridge? Gracelyn was pretty slow and there is no excuse for not finding the other half-pendant. Oh well, she was kind of a lost cause too since she got lost in the King's Storeroom. They would've done better if Brian had stayed at the top of the temple and not enter the Ledges. And did anyone on the set not have the decency to give Brian longer pants? His jeans were above his ankles throughout the whole episode. :roll:

Plumed Headdress is definitely a garbage episode and I hate it. Justin was definitely a good player, but Jessica sucked though. This is the only episode from this day that I don't remember much details about besides Justin being really good. I do remember the retarded legend, but that is a different story. :roll: The temple run was frustrating and boring to watch. Justin actually made good time in the temple though, especially since he went up the central shaft. Jessica was pretty bad though, and she was so slow following up on Justin's path. She only added one room onto Justin's path. It was a tough temple layout, but the team really should've started in the Crypt. Oh well, Jessica was slow anyways. I don't think they would've won. I hate this episode though.  :x

You're right about Montezuma being the only good episode from this production day. The Red Jaguars did pretty good before the temple run including finishing first in the moat and winning two pendants in the temple games. The Steps of Knowledge was one of those short rounds where only 6 questions were asked altogether and the other two teams stand around and do nothing. IIRC, this is the Steps round where the Green Monkey boy gets an answer wrong and makes this pissed off face at the camera. :lol: The Blue Barracudas looked like a very young team too. I always liked the name "Caspian" also.  :P I don't recall Kelly falling off her wheel in her temple game though? Amy would've won if she hadn't fallen off since she was faster than Kelly. The Red Jaguars dominated the rest of their temple games at least. The temple run was pretty exciting though, even if the Red Jaguars lost. Kevin tried to beeline for the direct path a little too much. First he started in the Crypt and then he entered Medusa's Lair when he could've avoided both for a solo win. Kelly was pretty fast as a second runner and she was smart to avoid the Medusa's Lair detour. However, all of this was for nothing as she failed pretty hard in the Shrine of the Silver Monkey. She had about a minute to assemble the Silver Monkey and could not get it together. Even after she drops the Silver Monkey torso over the edge and is thrown back to her, she still couldn't get it done. I would've gave her a "5" for the simple fact that it took her over a minute and she still wasn't close to completing it. If Kevin stayed low and avoided Medusa's Lair, they would've had an "Enormous Iron Nose Ring" like win.

Lost Lion Tail was definitely the worst episode from that day. :roll: I knew that Claude was a lost cause and one of the worst on the show. It was so obvious that he would get a really low score considering Marie did all the work that day. She answered all of the questions in the Steps and won her individual game. I hate when teams like the Blue Barracudas get the first two questions correct in the Steps, and still don't go onto the temple games. Speaking of the temple games, it featured one of the biggest chokes in the history of Legends. The Silver Snakes had the final temple game easily won until they reached their second step and dropped the sign. They had to go back down and actually retrieve it. By then though, the Purple Parrots had a free pass to the temple. After getting a gifted temple appearance, what do the Purple Parrots do? They decide to blow their load in the temple, or more like Claude did. Marie was actually a pretty good frontrunner. All that time she lost in the Rock Quarry she made up in the Laser Light Room finding the White Light on her first try. And with 1:50 to himself, there is no reason why Claude couldn't have won. My God was Claude a terrible contestant.  :shock: He was very slow and didn't seem to know where he was at. He just walked aimlessly through the temple and eventually made it to the Mine Shaft where he did not know what to do. His temple run ended when he placed his finger inside the temple guard's pee hole.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll: Claude was definitely the biggest disgrace to the Purple Parrots, more so than Jackie was. The only thing saving him from a "1" in the temple was that he actually found the half-pendant. I hate this temple run and I definitely add it to my black list of temple runs of not to watch. This was definitely the Purple Parrots worst episode ever and I wonder why TPP actually like this episode?  :oops:  :?:

Overall, this must've been a painful day to review. Here are my rankings:

Montezuma >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Sultan Suleiman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plumed Headdress >>>>>>>>>>>> Lost Lion Tail
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 11, 2013, 03:43:42 PM
Please, like I'd shed a tear over the Purple Parrots having a few choke jobs. And let me explain about Brian: He sucked in his individual game, did you see him? He took his sweet time getting the ring off the totem pole, and Chris owned him. At least Gracelyn had the squirting game going for her. And I completely blame Brian for why this team lost. Yes Gracelyn was slow, but I don't blame her one bit for not seeing the half pendant. Again, I blame Brian for not signaling back to her. Maybe I'm just wrong here. Maybe I should've just given Gracelyn a "4" for the temple run just like Brian. And yeah, Kelly from Montezuma should've gotten a "5" got the temple run. Because she just didn't know how to assemble that monkey.

You know, maybe I shouldn't have done this filming day. I figured I would post it to show everyone just how abysmal Claude was. Oh well, maybe if someone else who wants to try these rankings and post a better filming day, they're free to do it. I still want to post the "Top 10 Best/Worst Players" list. I know we haven't exactly covered every single contestant, but we got the majority of them. So why not?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 11, 2013, 03:51:37 PM
Oh no, I am not saying you're wrong for giving Brian a lower score. ;)  I just remember a couple of people saying that Brian was suppose to be the stronger contestant before the temple run. I personally don't know for sure myself for how well Brian performed before the temple because I haven't watched the Sultan Suleiman episode in a long time. And besides, both him and Gracelyn's score were pretty close. So it's not like Graceylen was that much better. But yeah, I think Brian is mainly to blame for the temple loss. Especially the two obvious mistakes that could've been easily avoided. I think Gracelyn's temple score is fine. ;)

Nothing wrong with choosing this production day either. Yeah, it was pretty abysmal. But it's always fun to see how some of these bad contestants rank. Like how low Claude ranked.  :shock: I mean I am sure this production day wasn't any better than the Lost Logbooks/Moccasins day, right? ;) That is how I felt about the Lost Hammer/Golden Ship day too.  :oops: Also, PP319 did rankings for the Sultan Suleiman and Lost Lion Tail team. Maybe I will find them to see how they compare?

And I will be interested in your top 10/bottom 10 player list too. ;) I think we covered almost every production day except the Bandit Queen/Thornwood Gavel and Missing Eye/Enormous Iron Nose Ring. Maybe I will try and do Bandit Queen over the next two days because I am sure Zac will make your top 10 list. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 11, 2013, 04:09:43 PM
Here's PP319's rankings of the Purple Parrots contestants:
Lost Lion Tail (http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=2324.msg113016#msg113016) (Bone Necklace rankings are attached to that post too, which I also did rankings for).
Sacred Ring (http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=2324.msg113056#msg113056) (Leopard Skin Cloak is also attached to the post, which you did rankings for).

If you still want to compare, there you go. The only things I did differently was not give .5 points or do team averages. Also, some contestants have an "N/A" for the Steps of Knowledge, which I have no problem with. I at least give a "5" or a "6" to those contestants who don't respond. I know PP319 doesn't do rankings anymore, but both of our rankings are fair and should average in around the same. ;)

And you should totally do Bandit Queen's filming day next, or Enormous Nose Ring's filming day. Especially since you have reviewed both episodes in the Episode Rankings thread recently. I can definitely say Zac ranked very high in my player rankings of him. But, I'm not gonna spoil anything. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 11, 2013, 11:39:40 PM
Okay, here are the best/worst rated players:

Top 10 Best:
Gator (The Mussel Shell Armor of Apanuugpak): 9.4
Olivia-Emma (The Applewood Amulet of Emiliano Zapata): 8.85
Zac (The Secret Map of the Bandit Queen): 8.85
David (Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress): 8.8
Ty (The Lucky Medallion of Atocha): 8.65
Jessica (The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain): 8.6
Brent (The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain): 8.5
Greg (The Golden Jaguar of Atahualpa): 8.5
Jay (The Good-Luck Watch of Empress Eugenie): 8.4
TJ (The Metal Beard of the Egyptian Queen): 8.25

NOTES:

Not bad, most of the players on this list are easily the highest regarded in the Legends fandom. So their places on the list aren't very surprising at all. Look at how many Green Monkey players are featured. They make up half the list! Is it any coincidence that the Green Monkeys are considered such a strong team? :mrgreen: Gator is easily our valedictory player with a whopping 9.4 average. Nobody else is comes close to him! For second place, it's a tie between Olivia-Emma and Zac, but I gave Olivia-Emma the upper hand since she never got below a "7" for any rounds. In my rankings of Zac, he scored high in every single round except for the moat, where I gave him a "7" there. So Olivia-Emma is the salutatory player here. Out of the 10 players of this list, there are two temple game losers featured here, both being Purple Parrot rejects funnily enough. Speaking of Greg and Brent, they managed to tie for 7th/8th place. But I gave Brent from Lost Hornpipe the upper hand since I found him to be a wee bit stronger than Greg from Atahualpa. Imagine if those players made it to the temple. :shock: It's kind of sad that there are only two female players featured here. But if there's one positive thing I can say, both Jessica AND Brent are featured from the Lost Hornpipe episode. I mean, two players from the same episode who make the Top 10 best list? That's amazing. Jarrid was a pretty strong player too, don't get me wrong. But in my rankings of him, he only got an 8.2 average. He scored very high in each round, but the "6" I gave him for his individual game was his downfall. Plus, Jessica and Brent got a "10" in at least one round, so that helped their averages a lot. Overall, most of these players (especially the Top 6), are players I pretty much figured would be in the top tier.

Top 10 Worst:
Amber (The Silver Cannonball of Grandy Nanny): 4.75
Jamie (The Oracle Bowl of Delphi): 4.75
Colby (The Bifocal Monocle of One Eyed Jack): 4.75
Kristen (The Lucky Pig of Amelia Earhart): 4.6
Tammy (The Helmet of Genghis Khan): 4.5
Claude (The Lost Lion Tail of Little John): 4.4
John (The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan): 4.4
Tia (The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan): 4.4
GG (The Codebook of Mata Hari): 4.25
Winter (The Cracked Crown of the Spanish King): 4.0

NOTES:

Man, look at all those 4 averages. And look at how many of them are temple game losers too. :shock: They take up literally half the list. I know it doesn't seem fair to include temple game losers. But some of those players just didn't excel in ANY round, so it really hurt their averages. One thing I'd like to note is that there were at least three more people that got a 4.75 average. So the three listed above (Amber, Jamie, Colby), might be random selections, but I just thought they were suited better for this list. And believe me, it was hard to pick which 4.75 rejects I wanted to include here. Since they were all bad in their own little ways. The order I chose to put the worst players in goes from "best of the worst" to "the absolute worst," in case anyone was wondering. It's funny how John, Tia, and Claude managed to get the exact same score, but STILL didn't end up as the worst rated players. Instead, they end up tying for the third worst rated. With that being said, Winter from The Cracked Crown of the Spanish King manages to be the worst rated player ever. Congratulations Winter, not hanging on to the horse really came back to bite you in the ass! And this was TRJ's ranking of her too. While I haven't actually ranked Winter, a measly 4.0 average is quite accurate. Runner up for worst rated is GG from "The Codebook of Mata Hari." The girl who couldn't maneuver through the "Barney Rubble" if her life depended on it. I would've included Evan from Shiva on this list, but he only got a 4.8 average in my rankings of him. While it wasn't enough to include him on this list, nor did he score worse than John and Tia, he was still a pretty bad player. Either way, I think we can all agree that John, Tia, and Claude are by far the worst players ever.

And that's it. Most of these rankings are ones that either I have posted, or TRJ has posted. You'll notice some of these rankings (like of GG, Jay, and Zac) have never been posted at all. That's because I have all these rankings saved to my computer. And if I'm comparing my rankings to TRJ's, I'll fix them a little if I feel like one player should get one point higher, or one point lower. I might put up another list of the Top 10 worst players, but include temple runners only. Only because it is a bit unfair to include temple game losers because they never proved themselves. Even then, this list still seems accurate enough, don't you think? ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 12, 2013, 12:42:34 AM
I agree with the top 10 list for sure. There was no doubt in my mind that Gator was the best contestant on the show. He was the only one t break the #9 range.  :mrgreen: I am also happy to see Olivia-Emma tied for second best too. I don't care if her layout was easy, she was awesome. Plus that means the top 10 list is not dominated by all guys. Glad Jessica made it high on the list too. While both her and Jarrid were beast, I always felt she was the star of the "Pirate Captain win". And two different contestants from the same episode on the top list? Shows you how strong both the Purple Parrots and Green Monkeys were!

I am surprised to see Jay make it high though. But I don't have any problems though because he was awesome.  :mrgreen: I recently watched the "Empress Eugenie" episode and I think his score is very fitting. I always thought that he ranked up there with Zac anyways. Too bad his team didn't win though. I remember THK called him a tard in the temple in another topic. Really? :roll:

And LOL at the bottom list. It's pretty embarrassing that two players from the same team make it to the bottom list. But John and Tia deserved it. :roll: And Claude and Kristen from Amelia Earhart being there is pretty fitting also. Their partners did all the work in their episodes, while neither player did crap. They were pretty much dead weight. I remember the Green Monkey girl Winter from Cracked Crown too. She fell off the horse after 7 seconds? :roll: And then we have GiGi from "Mata Hari", who ranked lower than John and Tia. :roll:

Overall, I agree with the rankings for sure. It was definitely interesting to see the bottom list too. Some of these contestants really didn't belong on the show.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 12, 2013, 01:18:45 AM
Well, what helped Jay the most was his performance in the temple games. Especially in the team game, where I gave him a "10." He caught every single ball and didn't miss even a single time. Plus, his temple run performance helped. I should totally post the last day of Season 3's rankings next. :mrgreen:

And yeah, not good when you can't even make a 5 average. And in some cases, STILL make it to the temple. Claude and Kristen contributed nothing to their respective teams. They only made it as far as they did because their partners carried their teams through the episode. I agree, you wonder how some of these contestants get on the show in the first place. I mean, I know their just kids and everything, but still. :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 19, 2013, 11:06:23 PM
In case any of you still wanted to see it, here's a list of the Top 10 worst temple runners:

Top 10 Worst (Temple Runners):
Jason (The Smashed Printing Plate of Frederick Douglass): 5.1
Karisa (The Enormous Feather of the Mi Linh): 5.0
Jessie (The Silk Sash of Mulan): 5.0
Ron (The Treasure of Anne Bonny): 5.0
Evan (The Stolen Arm of Shiva): 4.8
Amber (The Silver Cannonball of Grandy Nanny): 4.75
Kristen (The Lucky Pig of Amelia Earhart): 4.6
Claude (The Lost Lion Tail of Little John): 4.4
John (The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan): 4.4
Tia (The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan): 4.4

NOTES:

Well naturally, half the players from my previous "worst" list still remain on the list above. The ones that are new to the list, have averages ranging in the high 4's, low 5's. Even with this difference in the list, I still ranked the above players from "best of the worst" to "the worst." As you can see above, Evan from Shiva makes the list with a measly 4.8 average. While he doesn't have a worse ranking than John and Tia, he's still pretty bad, ranking #5 on the list. Speaking of John and Tia, they both tie with Claude for worst rated player ever. While all three of them are atrocious players, I would say Claude is the third worst, while John and Tia respectively are THE worst. Although players like Karisa, Jessie, and Ron all have a solid 5 averages. But with them, it doesn't really make a difference who places where, since they were pretty much on par with each other. Either way, it shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone who ranked the worst. While Winter from "The Cracked Crown of the Spanish King" is technically the worst rated player with a mere 4.0 average, John, Tia, and Claude are the worst rated temple runners ever. Congratulations John, Tia, and Claude, you are a disgrace to Legends! :afro:

Whew, that was fun. :lol: I love ranking all the worst players, just to see who truly did the worst. It's very interesting to see, but of course ranking the best players is fun too. This list should be accurate enough, especially since this is strictly temple runners only. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 20, 2013, 01:12:45 AM
It is pretty embarrassing that both players on one team ranked at the very bottom of the list. No other team beside both John and Tia made it to the bottom. And they both occupy the lowest spot too. :lol: John and Tia are easily the worst temple team too.

I am kind of surprised to see Jessie from Silk Sash on that list. But she wasn't that great anyways. She sucked in the moat and her temple performance was mediocre. Out of all of the players that made it to the bottom 10, she is the most surprising.

Ron sucked pretty bad, but I didn't expect him to be the lowest ranking Red Jaguar. :o It was his cheating in the moat that brought him down. Plus, he wasn't very good in general. I hate him anyways and he deserves it.

Nothing to say about Karisa, except she was a disgrace and David did all the work. :roll:

Kristen was a waste of space too. Scott carried this team throughout the show, and she ruins the temple run and doesn't give him a chance. She didn't even try at all in this episode.

Claude should be embarrassed for ranking on John and Tia's level. He was so awful and Marie did everything in that episode. He was an amazingly bad player.  :o

Overall, good final list. I agree with all of these except for maybe Jessie. I am surprised that neither of the Xerxes kids ranked low either.  :shock:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 20, 2013, 01:22:59 AM
Well, the problem with Jessie was she ranked low in pretty much every round, especially the moat. You even did rankings on her too, but on mine, she ranked a little lower. As for the Xerxes kids, they had averages in the mid 5 range. Their performances on the Steps helped a bit. And yeah, Ron's cheating in the moat REALLY bit him in the ass. Not to mention, he didn't get any higher than a 5 on the temple run. Keep in mind that the players who ranked the worst had averages in the 4-low 5 range. So there is bound to be some surprises.

And yeah, John and Tia ranking the worst AND with Claude joining them is pathetic. I think we all can agree that John, Tia, and Claude are the worst players ever. Oh well, you should try doing these rankings again. I'm starting to miss them. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 20, 2013, 01:30:29 AM
I really want to do the Chandragupta/Bandit Queen day since it seems like a very interesting one. And now that I found out the tunnel game was used only in Bandit Queen and Thornwood Gavel, I am interested in doing this day to see how it turns out.

Chandragupta is a great episode. It would be interesting to see how Andrea final rankings are, as well as Shaun who never entered the temple.
Lion-Slashed Jacket was boring, but Mike and Lauren will be interesting to rank too.
Bandit Queen will definitely be interesting for Zac's dominance and Miriam's temple performance.
Thornwood Gavel will probably be the most interesting IMO, especially since Mike and Kelli were very dominant before the temple run. It will be interesting to see how Kelli's temple score brings her overall one down.

So yeah, I might attempt this production day tomorrow night. :P It wasn't a bad day at all, and Bandit Queen is still fresh on my mind. I still have the Iron Nose Ring day too, but I don't care for Ahmed Baba and Ivory Elephant at all. :P
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 20, 2013, 02:34:54 AM
Well, you don't have to do it right away, just when you feel like it. As for me, I'm pretty much done with the rankings. I honestly can't think of a production day I want to rank next. If it helps, I have Bandit Queen's production day ranked. And I can tell you that the likes of Zac, Andrea, and Shaun score very high. Everyone else is about average. I also have Tall Turban's filming day ranked. From what I remember, Joel scores in the 8 range, and Shane only scores in the low 6 range. So it's not like you're really missing anything at all. But it's totally up to you. If you don't anymore rankings here, there's always episode rankings. That's updated more recently than this anyways. But when you do rank them here, I'll gladly read them over.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on July 20, 2013, 09:18:39 PM
So, now that I'm back I guess I should finish what I started.  Looking back through the thread, I left off at S1L7, even though I actually have up through S2L1 done.  Way back when some server error deleted some of my progress.  I went back and watched the episodes to double-check my thoughts (I changed some rankings around, but only by a point or two) and to remember what I thought about each episode.  So let's get back to this with S1L8.  And as always, discussion and debate is open.

Overall, I thought most of these, with the exception of Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat, were pretty boring episodes.

KING TUT'S COBRA STAFF:

Purple Parrots - Eusinia
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.4

Purple Parrots - David
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5.6

Blue Barracudas - Stacy
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 6

Blue Barracudas - Joe
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 6

Notes about this episode: This episode really wasn't very exciting to watch.  In pretty much every round, you knew who was going to win or move on even if you hadn't seen the episode before, and that's only fun to watch if the winner does just a purely amazing job, which definitely can't be said about Eusinia and David.  The Temple Run was okay.  Eusinia and David weren't amazing but with time running out just a couple rooms away, it was kind of exciting to see if they would get to the staff (Assuming that you didn't already know, like all of us).


THE DRAGON LADY AND THE BLUE PEARL:

Orange Iguanas - Jennifer
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 2
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 5.6

Orange Iguanas - Albert
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5.6

Red Jaguars - Christine
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 1
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 4.25

Red Jaguars - Robbie
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 7
Overall: 6

Notes about this episode: This was a little better.  The Temple Run situation was similar with a not very amazing team but still a close, exciting finish thanks to Jennifer hustling to make up time, though this time with a disappointing finish.  This time however, the Temple Games were a close matchup.  Especially in the last two games, you didn't immediately know who would win.  Moat and Steps were still less than exciting.


THE CODEBOOK OF MATA HARI:

Silver Snakes - Rinette
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 2
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 5
Temple Run: 3
Overall: 4.2

Silver Snakes - Gareth
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 5
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 5.8

Blue Barracudas - Gigi
Moat: 3
Steps of Knowledge: 1
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 1
Overall: 2.5

Blue Barracudas - Brian
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 4
Overall: 5

Notes about this episode:  Here's a perfect example of how even if the competitions are close, it's not exciting if the "best" people still suck.  People know this episode for the controversial "furthest along" calls in the Temple Games, but honestly, it was probably better that the Silver Snakes won because they were clearly the better team, even if that isn't saying much.  The only one I thought was remotely okay was Gareth.  I give credit to him because he wasn't horrible, and at least he was pretty smart, just not very physical.


PECOS BILL'S LOST LARIAT:

Green Monkeys - Colleen
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7

Green Monkeys - Chris
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5.6

Blue Barracudas - Janelle
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 7
Overall: 6.75

Blue Barracudas - Hank
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 8
Overall: 7

Notes about this episode: This one was very fun to watch because not only were the contestants actually good, but the rounds were very close and competitive.  In fact, if Chris hadn't have screwed up so badly in the Temple Run, I would say this was one of the single best episodes in Season 1.  I'm a little torn about who won, though, because I really liked Hank and Janelle and wanted them to win, but at the same time I know that Colleen did really well to earn that win.  Chris, being the clear worst of the four, definitely shouldn't have earned the win, but all the more to Colleen for making up for that and still winning.


ROBIN HOOD AND MARIAN'S SILK LADDER:

Silver Snakes - Erica
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 8
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 6.8

Silver Snakes - Jeremy
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 5.8

Purple Parrots - Nicole
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 3
Individual Temple Game: 4
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 5

Purple Parrots - Dustin
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 3
Team Temple Game: 7
Overall: 5.5

Notes about this episode: To nobody's surprise, this was a pretty lame episode.  I can say that Erica and Jeremy definitely deserved to make it to the Temple Run over the Purple Parrots, but I don't think they deserved the grand prize win.  Erica maybe, but definitely not Jeremy.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 20, 2013, 09:33:38 PM
Awesome, nice to see THK back in doing these rankings. I know that you had S1L8 done before the database crash. It's nice to see you have them up though. ;) Here is what I think:

I personally find the Cobra Staff episode pretty exciting. Good and unique temple game sequence and the temple run was pretty exciting too. Kind of weird to see both Blue Barracudas rank higher than David. I thought he did alright for the most part. I would've even given him a higher score in the temple than Eusinia due to being more competent at least.

Blue Pearl was a great episode and very exciting. I am surprised to see Albert and Jennifer both rank that low though. :cry: They were pretty good. It looks like Jennifer's fast speed in the temple saved her score from being lower. That was an amazing comeback by her and other second runners should follow her lead. I would've liked to see both players in the 6-7 range, but I guess my rankings for them might be generous.

Mata Hari was complete crap though and I definitely agree with the rankings for this episode. When a 5.8 is the highest score in the whole episode, you know none of these teams were good. The way Rinette won her temple game was complete crap too. It should've been a tie at least. Although Brian not beating her is kind of embarrassing too. And Oh God, that final temple game was hilarious. Gigi literally never made it up the first hill of the Dragon Tunnel. Her partner had to come and grab their secret document in order to score. Rinette and Garrett weren't much better. I agree with you though, I feel that the Silver Snakes deserved to go to the temple too over the lowly Barracudas. The temple run was pretty "meh", but your scores for them seem pretty accurate too. Rinette was horrible with the little time she was given. :roll:

Lost Lariat was a good episode also. This episode featured solid players all around. Well, at least in comparison to the other S1 teams. Colleen was definitely the star of this episode though. Chris was okay until the temple run too. At least he won his individual game. The temple run is what brings Chris down. Colleen was the fastest girl of S1, but Chris was one of the dumbest second runners. I would've given him a 4 in the temple because he was so slow and blew so many opportunities that would've save him time. Terrible player.

And then we have Robin Hood, the lamest win in the series. The rest of the episode was good though. Jeremy and Erica were very strong before the temple. First in the moat, first in the Steps, temple game sweep, and then win the temple. Erica was the all-around better player. She was definitely deserving of that temple win too. She made it through 5 rooms in under a minute. Jeremy was the bad one though, and I would've gave him a lower score in the temple. He looked confused and walked the whole way through. And the victory dance at the end.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

Blue Pearl > Cobra Staff > Lost Lariat >  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll: >>>>> Mata Hari in terms of episode rankings that day.

Nice to see your rankings back up. Surprised to see how low some of these contestants rank, but S1L9 will be interesting to rank. With Ron the Cheater from Anne Bonny and David from Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress. ;)  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 20, 2013, 09:41:04 PM
Damn, look at Gigi's score. :shock: Only a mere 2.5 average? Fuck. And yeah, it was better that the Silver Snakes went to the temple in Mata Hari. Can you imagine what Gigi would've been like in the temple? And it looked like neither team was impressive in Silk Ladder, though Erica seemed like a stronger player than Jeremy by far. Though it could've been an easy Purple Parrots win. :( Oh well, I liked S1L8's filming day. The only truly bad episode was Mata Hari, and you can imagine why.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on July 20, 2013, 09:51:28 PM
My opinion probably changed from a year ago, but I didn't really like S1L8 save for Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat.  It felt like sometimes it was way too obvious who was going to win and you weren't wondering what would happen so much as just waiting for it to happen.  Honestly, it was mostly the moat because a lot of teams just couldn't do it, and the last team or two always seemed to take forever.  I think the bad start to the episodes made me a little more cynical.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 20, 2013, 10:07:27 PM
Yeah, most of the moat performances on this production day weren't good anyways. Especially since the moats seemed to take longer due to waiting for the last two teams to cross. One question I have though about King Tut's and Blue Pearl's moat. Do some of the players really need to be graded? For those moats, one player was merely being pulled in by their partner, and naturally just had to sit on the tube. That really doesn't require any skill, and in my rankings of both those episodes, some of the players just sitting on the tube got an "N/A." But, I suppose it depended on how fast they were being pulled in. I hope you know what I mean there.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on July 20, 2013, 10:14:45 PM
I don't really remember what I was thinking about that way back when.  Probably something about actually reaching for the inner tube, how much they struggle to actually get in, and if the help pull themselves across and how fast.  I don't really remember.  It was probably pretty much an automatic 5 or 6 unless you somehow helped get it done quicker or, on the other end, if you were too dumb to live.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 20, 2013, 10:15:55 PM
Yeah, that moat was pretty painful to watch. I remember the Cobra Staff and Mata Hari one being long. :o I guess all of them were long too. I agree with THK that the bad moats kind of ruin an episode for me. When a moat is takes too long to complete, it kind of sets a tone for the rest of the episode. Not that all long moats are bad episodes, but they do make you wish that it will be over already.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 20, 2013, 10:29:51 PM
Heh, too dumb to live. :lol: I suppose it doesn't matter too much, since that aspect of the moat only happened in King Tut and Blue Pearl. All the other episodes required both teams to cross it the same tired way they would in any other Season 1 moat. But in my rankings (and PP319's rankings of King Tut), I gave those players an "N/A" since sitting on a tube doesn't really require skill. But yeah, a really long moat where it looks like the players don't belong on the show ruins the episode a bit for me.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Headless King on August 01, 2013, 12:01:53 AM
Let's finish off Season 1.  With S1L9, it seemed the episodes started out really good, but progressively got worse (though even the worst ones were still watchable for the most part).



LAWRENCE OF ARABIA'S HEADDRESS:

Green Monkeys - Candice
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7

Green Monkeys - David
Moat: 10
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 9
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 8

Red Jaguars - Brittany
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 1
Individual Temple Game: 5
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 3.75

Red Jaguars - Angel
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 7

Notes about this episode: If I had to name a best episode of Season 1, it'd be a close one between Henry VIII's Great Seal and this one, and I'd probably say this one.  For the most part, every round was competitive and exciting.  The Moat wasn't the biggest nail-biter ever, but at least they were fast enough that it actually felt like a race.  The Steps of Knowledge were VERY competitive.  Candice and David actually barely scraped by as there was a three-way tie on the final step for the second spot in the Temple Games (and honestly, part of me is thinking I may have been too generous to them in that round).  The Temple Games were close, at least as far as David vs. Angel.  Brittany kinda sucked and it was pretty clear Candice would beat her, but it wasn't so much of a beatdown that it became boring.  And to top it all off, one of the most exciting finishes to a Temple Run ever.  David was stuck with less than 30 seconds to get out of the worst room possible to have to escape from, and still managed to do it right in the nick of time.


THE COLLAR OF DAVY CROCKETT:

Silver Snakes - Shannon
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 10
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7.2

Silver Snakes - Adam
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 7
Tiebreaker Bonus: +1
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.8

Red Jaguars - Abby
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 9
Overall: 7.25

Red Jaguars - Eric
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 8
Overall: 7.75

Notes about this episode: While not nearly as good as Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress, I still really liked this episode, despite a less than amazing Temple Run win.  This is one of the rare episodes where all four players in the Temple Games were really good.  I especially liked the Steps of Knowledge where Abby and Eric actually had some catching up to do in order to edge out the Blue Barracudas.  Again, all of the Temple Games were close matches, and the Silver Snakes (mostly Shannon) really put it into high gear in order to win the team game and then the tiebreaker.  It's a little conflicting though, because Abby and Eric actually seemed like the better team, even though Shannon and Adam were a pretty great team themselves.  Either one of the teams would've deserved the grand prize, though I wish that would've showed more during the actual Temple Run.  If the Silver Snakes (Adam in particular) had done somewhat better, I'd be more fine with the fact that their layout was relatively easy.


THE SNAKE BRACELET OF CLEOPATRA:

Silver Snakes - Tracy
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 2
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 5.6

Silver Snakes - Robert
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 8
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 10
Overall: 7.4

Orange Iguanas - Samantha
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 2
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 5.5

Orange Iguanas - Joshua
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

Notes about this episode:  There was a quality decline here from the previous two episodes.  While I still liked it and it was still good, it wasn't as exciting and the players weren't as good, save for Robert.  I really don't have a lot to say about this one.


THE TREASURE OF ANNE BONNY:

Red Jaguars - Catherine
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 6
Temple Run: 9
Overall: 6.8

Red Jaguars - Ron
Moat: 2
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 7
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 5

Green Monkeys - Joanna
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Temple Game: 6
Team Temple Game: 5
Overall: 6

Green Monkeys - Nate
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual Temple Game: 7
Team Temple Game: 6
Overall: 6

Notes about this episode: The worst of the 4, though despite the stupidity and cheating by Ron in this episode, I actually still enjoyed it, mostly thanks to "Fred" (this is actually one of the few episodes where I genuinely enjoy the "getting to know the contestants" part).  Despite Catherine's strong start, Ron made this one of the most annoying Temple Runs ever, but thanks mostly to the Temple Games, I could still enjoy the episode overall.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 01, 2013, 03:11:07 PM
I personally would've given David a "9" for the temple run, and Ron a "1" for the moat. If you cheat in ANY round, you totally deserve to get a "1." That's at least what I did for my rankings of this episode, which is somewhere in this thread. And you're right, after Davy Crockett, the episodes do get weaker and weaker, with Anne Bonny being the weakest link of the four.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 02, 2013, 11:34:42 AM
S1L9 is easily the best production day of Season 1. And one thing I noticed that every episode had at least one temple player that stuck out as being "dominant" for their team that day. In this case being David (Lawrence of Arabia), Shannon (Davy Crockett), Robert (Snake Bracelet), and Fred (Anne Bonny).

I agree with these rankings too for the most part. I would've gave David a 9 in the temple too. He had an amazing performance. Besides detouring into the Fallen Columns and Cave of Sighs, he was very fast and his Silver Monkey was incredible considering he grabbed all 3 pieces at once. And his temple exit was the best on the show. Which is why I would give him a 9. Nice to see this Green Monkeys team get a good score overall though.  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

And wow, the Red Jaguars outranked Shannon and Adam in Davy Crockett? Well, the Silver Snakes did sort of scrape by their whole episode and only won their team game. The temple win was pretty easy and is probably in the bottom 5 on the show, but I don't mind it too much. Adam is the one that ruins it, he was so slow. I might've given him a 4 in the temple.

Snake Bracelet was a good episode. Robert was easily the most dominant. He answered all the questions correctly in the Steps and did all the work in the temple games. And he was amazingly fast in the temple too. Tracy drags down this win a lot though. She was very slow and wasted time in the Observatory. They would've broken the Benzibab team record if she would've gotten her act together. And I like how the Purple Parrots didn't even make it to the temple games in this episode. Since they were the first team to get two questions correct in the Steps. :P

Anne Bonny was definitely the weakest link this day. Ron was a cheater and his moat score really brings him down. But he wasn't a great player all day either. He failed in the temple run hard also. He had more than enough time to bring the artifact out of the temple. Pathetic temple loss. But I agree, Fred was awesome. I like how she says she is "weird" in her temple interview and she was one of the few S1 players to cheer for their partner. Pretty exciting run, even if Ron sucked. Ron is a disgrace to the Red Jaguars.  :(
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on February 28, 2014, 11:52:37 PM
I think it's about time we revive this thread, after 6+ months of inactivity. This time, it's the Pytheas/Sojourner Truth filming day.

THE PEARL NECKLACE OF GWALIOR

Ryan:
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7.6

Dawn:
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.4

Joseph:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.5

Ashleigh:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 4
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6

NOTES:

Pretty average episode in my opinion. The moat was extremely fast, easily the fastest moat behind Apanuugpak. With the exception of the Purple Parrots, all the teams managed to get across no problem. Of course one of the Purple Parrot players just had to trip and blow their chances of advancing. Such is the Purple Parrots luck. -_- Ryan and Dawn made a GREAT comeback during the Steps of Knowledge. One of their answers at the beginning was thrown out because Olmec wanted a more specific answer from them. With the exception of the Green Monkey girl, all the other players performed pretty well throughout the episode. The temple run was just average, should've been reverse order of players. If it means that much to the team, they almost reached the necklace. But Dawn was just too slow. Or you know, other mistakes occurred too during the temple run. *coughrubbleclearinginthepitcough* This temple run is a carbon copy of Lily Crested Crown, only Ryan and Dawn were lightyears better than Katie and Judge. At least Ryan didn't choke in the Chamber of the Sacred Markers.

THE BULLET-RIDDLED HANDBAG OF BELLE BOYD

Leah:
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7.8

Matthew:
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7.6

John:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

Ashley:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.25

NOTES:

This episode was a little better than Gwalior. The moat in this episode went from running across a bridge, to simply crawling across a bridge. Probably to make it more challenging considering how quick the previous episodes moat was. And we are once again greeted with another Blue vs. Green match up, only this time, the Green Monkeys go to the temple. And I'm glad too, since Leah and Matthew were clearly the stronger team over the average Blue Barracudas. The temple run was great, one of my favorite losses of Season 3, if not the show. Leah was a fantastic player, she covered the entire central shaft from top to bottom, and almost the entire bottom floor in two whole minutes. Maybe the Dried Apple Half kids should've taken note from that. Though it would've helped if she had used the Pit-Chamber passage instead of detouring into the King's Storeroom. Matthew was a solid player as well, but unfortunately, made the exact same mistakes he did. He also didn't use the Quicksand Bog/Shrine passage either. As soon as he was done reading off the passwords, time ran out. Overall, the temple run was awesome, but the rest of the episode, was completely on the average side honestly. It was rather uneventful, but it really doesn't matter. As the rankings above can pretty much speak for themselves.

THE LOST WHALEBONE OF PYTHEAS

Brittany:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.2

Damien:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6.8

Allison:
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6

Patrick:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.5

NOTES:

The episode quality really starts to sink here. This episode was incredibly boring. I do remember it somewhat since this was one of the first episodes I ever saw. And it was part of the "20 episode cycle" from late 2006. But that's it, that's all I remember about the episode. As you can already tell by the rankings, neither team was impressive. It's funny how Damien has the highest average out of the four players, yet moves like a slug in the temple. Go figure. Speaking of the temple run, Damien and Brittany were equally responsible for this loss. Everyone loves to just blame Damien, but Brittany wasn't very fast herself. Just like Kirk said, "You can't slow down too much or the temple will get you." There's really nothing to talk about for this episode really. So moving on....

THE DRIED EAR OF CORN OF SOJOURNER TRUTH

Eddie:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.6

Tess:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7

Shannon:
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 5.75

Jerome:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7

NOTES:

So boring, I remember next to nothing about this episode. The strongest player out of the four was clearly Eddie, and his perfect Steps of Knowledge score really helped that. He swept the steps and answered all three questions before the choices were even revealed. Jerome of the Orange Iguanas was equally as smart there as well. This episode also uses the exact same temple game sequence as Pytheas, the episode before this. Shows how lazy the producers were in changing up the temple games. =/ For the most part, Eddie and Tess were very strong pre temple, but that strong performance did not measure up in the temple run. I honestly do not know why Kirk referred to Eddie as "fast Eddie." He was far from it, and him getting owned in the Pit didn't help his case either. Tess wasn't really any better, and I honestly think that maybe my temple run score for her was a little too generous. As she hesitated and wasted time in every room, the worst of it being in the Dark Forest. Where she just couldn't find her way out for the life of her. By the time she did lay her hands on the embarrassingly uninspiring artifact called corn, time was already called. Like Eddie said at the end of the run, "Just one more second!" For such a boring episode, every player except Shannon (who was nothing special to begin with), ranked pretty high. If it wasn't for the overall dullness this episode had, I would've liked this episode. But it was just filler all the way, period.

Overall, this filming day started out good, but got progressively worse as it went along. Gwalior and Belle Boyd were pretty good episodes, but Pytheas and Sojourner Truth were very dull and mundane episodes. All these episodes were ranked months ago, though my opinion really hasn't changed that much. I don't know how accurate these rankings are to everyone else, but I'm not expecting everyone to completely agree with me on these. So if this all looks like I was being too generous, keep in mind I ranked these all months ago. Either way, hope you enjoy these rankings nonetheless.

Belle Boyd >>>>> Gwalior >>>>>>> Pytheas >>>>>>> Dried Ear of Corn
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 01, 2014, 12:51:46 AM
Well, I may as well join in on this. Just give me some time to watch the episodes to refresh my memory. (Although I don't think I'll enjoy watching some of these people)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 01, 2014, 01:04:20 AM
Its been a while since we have seen this thread. :lol: Nice to see it back. Here is how I see it:

Pearl Necklace was a good episode, and Ryan and Dawn were a good team. The moat was literally the fastest moat on the show and it had to be changed the next episode because of how swift it was. Ryan and Dawn seemed to rank on par with each other throughout their episode. Ashleigh of the Green Monkeys was pretty crappy though. IIRC, she struggled bad with the bucking horse temple game. She kept holding onto it in an awkward position while Dawn handled it like it was nothing. She even fell off like 5 seconds after getting back on. :roll: The temple run was average and the team was average, but the layout was kind of long with no shortcuts available. I agree, I think that the team would've been a little more successful if Dawn went in first. Ryan was slightly quicker than her. But of course, the real reason they lost was because of Ryan taking a direct path. :roll: But this episode is much better than Lily-Crested Crown, which had the same layout too. Good episode overall.  :mrblue:

Belle Boyd is an underrated gem with a strong Green Monkeys team and was exciting all the way through. Leah must've hurt her back in the moat because she kept holding onto it in the Steps. It kind of looked like she was in pain too.  :( I might've given her a slightly lower Steps of Knowledge score because I believe she got one wrong answer. The temple games were good, and I like how John resembles the infamous Golden Cricket Cage one. :lol: The temple run was exciting and Leah and Matthew were a very strong team. Even if they didn't take shortcuts, they still came close to the artifact. They probably wouldn't have won even if they did take a shorter route. This episode is miles better than William Tell too. Even though that layout was slightly harder. Brett and Lauren sucked, period. Leah and Matthew were an awesome team and I would definitely give them a second chance. I wouldn't have mind if you gave them a 9 each in the temple. Great episode overall.

Lost Whale Bone is the episode where we knew about the production number for it for a long time. Not much to say except that Damien looked strong before the temple run. The temple run was boring and it is amazing how these two made it one room away from the artifact. Brittany moved slow, but she still made it good time to the Shrine. With a little less than 1:30 left, I would expect that Damien would at least haul ass with the cleared path Brittany left him. Instead, he takes him almost a minute to get there. -_- I probably would've given him a 4 in the temple. If he spent half of the time following up on his partner's path, then they would've reached the artifact maybe won. Typical result for your center of the temple run though. Overall, it was a boring and forgettable episode.

Dried Ear of Corn is one of the last episodes we reviewed, so I do remember it a little bit. :lol: This was the unfortunate episode to be paired with Cricket Cage. The Green Monkeys did good before the temple, but even then they were not that great. I remember Eddie dominating the Steps of Knowledge too. Shannon sticks out like a sore thumb too compared to the other players that day. But that is pretty fitting since she lost her temple game pretty bad to Tess. The temple run was exactly like Sir Gawain, except all three guards were encountered. But still, this was a very winnable layout though. Tess is more to be blamed than Eddie. She stalled too much in all of her rooms and pulled a Dolley Madison in the Dark Forest. Plus, I like Ashlie much better than Tess even though she gets blamed more. Ashlie was fast at least and didn't screw up until the Dark Forest. Tess messed up in other rooms like the Shrine and Ancient Warriors. Overall, it was definitely one of the most filler episodes on the show. :?

Overall, I think your rankings are solid. ;) I think it is fitting for the Belle Boyd team to have the highest score. This is how I rank this day:

Belle Boyd >>>> Pearl Necklace >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dried Ear of Corn >>>>>>>> Lost Whale Bone
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 01, 2014, 01:19:40 AM
Yeah, Ashleigh really, really sucked at her temple game. She kept holding on to the horse in an unorthodox way, while Dawn at least sat normally on the horse the entire time. That really brought down her score. And I also agree about the temple run. It was sort of a tough layout, as the order of rooms they entered was the same order the rooms were introduced in Olmec's rundown. Of course, this was not be choice. And yes, Leah looked like she was in pain in her episode. But then again, she kept tripping all the time, both when she crossed the moat, and when she ran up the stairs in the temple. No wonder it looked like her back hurt. :lol: Enough said about Pytheas and Dried Ear of Corn, only Shannon of the Orange Iguanas faced Eddie in her game, not Tess. But yeah, she kind of sucked, and she dragged the Orange Iguanas down, big time. Also agreed about Tess. I might actually give her a "5" for the temple run. Ashlie was way better than Tess in every aspect. And yes Dried Ear of Corn was the unlucky recipient of being paired up with Cricket Cage during the "20 episode cycle," which aired again and again no less. :lipsrsealed:

And thanks, I might post the last ever filming day next. :mrpurple: And anyone who wants to attempt these rankings (like RJF), feel free. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 01, 2014, 01:24:08 AM
So you are going to do the Benzibab/Empress Eugenie day? Well, you are in for a treat. All four episodes were amazing, even Empress Eugenie. I expect all four temple teams to rank high too. Also, I am sure I ranked this production day a while back too. So we can compare our rankings too. ;)

And speaking of good production days, maybe I will have a stab at the Atocha day. I remember I did this day once, but it got lost in the database crash. :cry: That is okay though, because this production day is worth rewatching.  :mrorange:  :mrgreen:  :mrblue:  :mrblue:

Also, it would be nice to see RJF join too. The more people means more discussion and feedback. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 01, 2014, 01:48:19 AM
Well, here are my rankings of the Atocha day (http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=2324.msg141406#msg141406) if you need a refresher. :mrorange: What a coincidence, I just bumped up this thread, yet in my Atocha rankings, I bumped up the thread there too. :lol: And I don't quite remember your rankings of the Benzibab day? Must've gotten lost in the database crash. But if you (or anyone else) would like to post the rankings, that would be great. ;) I took a quick peak of the rankings I did for Benzibab's day, and most of the players there rank pretty high. There were some low ones, but those were mostly the temple game losers. You shouldn't be disappointed either way. I should have those rankings posted tomorrow. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 01, 2014, 09:36:37 AM
It was the last day of Season 2 I completed with Polynesian Girl and Icarus. I went back and checked. Interesting, maybe I will do the Benzibab day at a later time. I like the idea of doing the Atocha day though and comparing it to yours.  ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 01, 2014, 04:24:12 PM
Yes, that was my refresher to you if you DID choose to rank Atocha's day. ;) And for anyone who wants to rank Benzibab's day just like I want to. It will be interesting to see how different our opinions are of who scores which. We're bound to have some results that may or may not be shocking. Oh well, whatever floats their boat.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 02, 2014, 06:55:11 PM
Remember my complicated formula I used in my version of the individual rankings? I'm still gonna use it.

(2 times Moat Score) + (3 times SOK Score) + (6 times Individual Game Score) + (6 times Team Temple Score) + (12 times Temple Score)] divided by 29

For before the temple, remove the temple score part and divide by 17 (or 14). For tiebreakers, add 1 to the SOK score. If they don't answer anything at the SOK, then the score is N/A and you divide by 26 (or 14) And no, you don't have to do this. This is unique to me because it's complicated.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 02, 2014, 08:04:15 PM
Well, I already got my own scoring system anyways, which is the same as what THK and TRJ do. :P Interesting method though. I remember you also did the rankings for the Galileo team. I know they are somewhere in this thread.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 03, 2014, 12:12:56 AM
Here's his ranking for the Galileo episode:


GALILEO'S CANNONBALL

Jammin' Jon:
Moat: 7
Steps: 7
Individual: 8
Team: 8
Pre-Temple: 7.71
Temple: 6.5
Overall: 7.21

Jennifer:
Moat: 7
Steps: 7.5
Individual: 3.5
Team: 8
Pre-Temple: 6.26
Temple: 4.5
Overall: 5.53

Kevin:
Moat: 5.5
Steps: N/A
Indivdual: 5.5
Team: 3.5
Pre-Temple/Overall: 3.82

Beth:
Moat: 6
Steps: 6
Individual: 6
Team: 6.5
Pre-Temple/Overall: 6.18

Well, Jammin' Jon was our first good player as he was consistently good through every round. Jennifer, on the other hand, had to croak in the Temple. Beth did decently, but Kevin was her downfall.

I think this was pretty good. I like how Beth of the Green Monkeys almost had double the score of her partner. :P No surprise that Jammin  John ranked high either. I personally would've gave him a 7 or even an 8 in the temple. For being the first temple run ever, he did great in y books. He moved fast, didn't stall much, and had a good map of the temple in his head,

I am looking into finishing the Chandragupta and Bandit Queen day once I am done with all my exams on Wednesday. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 03, 2014, 12:57:25 AM
You STILL never did Tall Turban's filming day. You claimed that months ago, and then never did it. But don't worry, I know how busy you are. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 03, 2014, 01:24:02 AM
Here's his ranking for the Galileo episode:


GALILEO'S CANNONBALL

Jammin' Jon:
Moat: 7
Steps: 7
Individual: 8
Team: 8
Pre-Temple: 7.71
Temple: 6.5
Overall: 7.21

Jennifer:
Moat: 7
Steps: 7.5
Individual: 3.5
Team: 8
Pre-Temple: 6.26
Temple: 4.5
Overall: 5.53

Kevin:
Moat: 5.5
Steps: N/A
Indivdual: 5.5
Team: 3.5
Pre-Temple/Overall: 3.82

Beth:
Moat: 6
Steps: 6
Individual: 6
Team: 6.5
Pre-Temple/Overall: 6.18

Well, Jammin' Jon was our first good player as he was consistently good through every round. Jennifer, on the other hand, had to croak in the Temple. Beth did decently, but Kevin was her downfall.

I think this was pretty good. I like how Beth of the Green Monkeys almost had double the score of her partner. :P No surprise that Jammin  John ranked high either. I personally would've gave him a 7 or even an 8 in the temple. For being the first temple run ever, he did great in y books. He moved fast, didn't stall much, and had a good map of the temple in his head,

I am looking into finishing the Chandragupta and Bandit Queen day once I am done with all my exams on Wednesday. ;)
I may have to redo these. I'll probably start with the last filming day because, well, Kris and Kristin. :P
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 03, 2014, 01:31:02 AM
Why do you need to redo them? The rankings don't look that bad to me. :P Speaking of last filming day, I still need to post my rankings on that. Maybe tomorrow I'll post them, unless you guys want to go first with your rankings. I can wait so it doesn't look like I'm hogging the spotlight. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 03, 2014, 02:50:05 AM
I just need to double check if my scores are reasonable. That's all.

Also, if my bias shows in this episode...... can you blame me that this episode as a whole was spectacular? Not just the Temple Run. Every round was brilliant in this episode thanks to the excellent contestants in this episode.

THE JEWEL-ENCRUSTED EGG OF CATHERINE THE GREAT:

Kris:
Moat: 8.5
Steps: 7.5
Individual: 10
Team: 8
Pre-Temple (Normal Scoring): 8.5
Pre-Temple (My Scoring): 8.68
Temple Run: 8
Overall (Normal Scoring): 8.4
Overall (My Scoring): 8.40

Kristin:
Moat: 8.5
Steps: 9
Individual: 8
Team: 6
Pre-Temple: (Normal Scoring): 7.88
Pre-Temple: (My Scoring): 7.53
Temple Run: 9
Overall (Normal Scoring): 8
Overall (My Scoring): 8.03

Bryan:
Moat: 8.5
Steps: 10
Individual: 7
Team: 7
Overall (Normal Scoring): 8.125
Overall (My Scoring): 7.71

Rachel:
Moat: 8.5
Steps: N/A
Indivivdual: 7.5
Team: 7
Overall (Normal Scoring): 7.67
Overall (My Scoring): 7.43

Comments: Before the Temple Games, the Orange Iguanas showed that they had an edge over the Red Jaguars (especially Bryan at the Steps Of Knowledge). Then the Red Jaguars decided to battle it out with them. And it was quite close. If it weren't for Kris's individual win, we would've had a 2-pendant tiebreaker (highly unlikely with the Temple Game, but can you imagine that 2-pendant tie?). And of course the Temple Run, while a bit simplistic, was still exciting thanks to the intelligent and quick Red Jaguars. Also, notice that Kris had the highest score of all the four people. I can bet you that had Kristin gone in first, we would be raising Kris to Gator and David level.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 03, 2014, 02:54:05 AM
Looking good. ;) Imagine if there were a 2 pendant tie on the last filming day. :o I mean, we already had a score 0-0 tie in the final temple game of Sforza. I also agree that the Orange Iguanas were pretty strong pre temple, especially with them sweeping the steps. But of course, Kris and Kristin came from behind and stole their thunder. The temple run was definitely a great way to close out the show. Kris and Kristin owned everything, especially Kristin.

So I take it you're gonna rank Benzibab next? If you're going in reverse order of episodes.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 03, 2014, 05:30:01 AM
I've been looking at the past rankings and I need to ask. Are we really gonna give Marie (Lost Lion Tail) a pass because she got the white laser on her first try? Because that was sheer luck, not skill, and I don't think she should get that type of score for that.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 03, 2014, 03:02:55 PM
I didn't give Marie a high score because of the laser thing. I gave her a higher score for the temple run because at least she knew somewhat what she was doing. I believe I gave her a "6" for the temple run, and I'm pretty sure PP319 gave her the same score as well. I really don't consider Marie a bad player at all. The only mistake she made was in the Rock Quarry, constantly missing the bucket. Claude on the other hand, he was pretty clueless. He's the real reason the team lost. O_O

Also, you posted your rankings for Jewel Encrusted Egg twice. If this wasn't intended, then you wouldn't mind if I delete just one of the duplicated posts?

Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 03, 2014, 07:28:39 PM
I deleted it. I actually didn't notice that until now lol
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 04, 2014, 01:05:05 AM
I think a 6 is pretty fitting for Marie. She made it through five rooms and left 1:50 left on the clock for Claude. I think that should've been enough time for Claude to reach the artifact and bring it out. The layout was almost similar to Billy the Kid. Claude was the one who made this run a huge disaster. I see no reason not to give him a 1 alone. Although he somehow found his half-pendant. I think people forget that Ben from Nzinga was also got taken out almost with the same amount of time in his run, but no one seems to ever point him out. Although Marie really struggled in the Rock Quarry. I think a 6 is fine for Marie though.

And I agree with your Catherine the Great rankings, too. ;) Kris and Kristen were a very well-rounded team and they had a pretty dominant performance all day. People sometimes point out their easy layout, but they still got the job done with little flaws at all. You could honestly not ask for a better way to close out the show.  :mrred: They are probably the best Red Jaguars team overall too on the show. The Boadicea team was also pretty strong too, but I liked the Catherine the Great duo a little better.

I think a good idea once we get more rankings is to rank the top 5 players by each team. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 04, 2014, 01:14:37 AM
What an excellent idea. I would love to do something like that. ;) It's very similar to the "Top 20 Best/Worst Players" I did somewhere in this thread. So why not continue that trend? You remember I did those rankings, right? And you agree that I hit the nail on the head. ;) I know my rankings are a little too generous, but I'm hoping you still like to read them anyways.

And don't worry, I didn't leave you guys hanging. I'll try to get my rankings on Benzibab's day very soon. :mrsilver: But, I'll wait a while, and for you guys to post more rankings. I hope you understand, I'll definitely get to posting them soon.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 04, 2014, 01:20:59 AM
We do have enough rankings though for most episodes to start working on a list. I know PP319 ranked every Purple Parrot team, so we can use his rankings as a format for the Purple Parrots. We can use multiple rankings when making our top ____ list too. I remember your "Top 20 Best/Worst Players" list too. I remember the biggest surprise was Jessie from Silk Sash making that list. :P

Also, can't wait until you get around to your Empress Eugenie/Benzibab rankings. Those four episodes never get old and very high quality. ;) IIRC, didn't you have Jay ranked as the highest player that day? And his team didn't even win. :P I want to post my Chandragupta/Bandit Queen rankings by Friday also.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 04, 2014, 01:23:53 AM
Yes Jay's team DID WIN. Aren't you paying attention here? ;) Does "Go up! Go up! Try another one!" mean anything to you? And YOU ranked Jessie, and if I remember correctly, you ranked much lower than I did. But yeah, Jay did rank high. He did great all episode, and he was literally flawless in the team game. And I can't wait until you post your rankings for Bandit Queen's filming day. ;) It'll be interesting to see how both Zac and Miriam rank.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 05, 2014, 12:25:37 AM
RJF, are you going to rank the Snow Cone team next? I saw you talk about Snow Cone in the Main Spam thread and I was thinking that you will do rankings for the losers known as Casey and Heather.  :oops: If so, then good luck. Those two were just awful in the temple. Looking back at my rankings for them, I was generous. :oops:

And I was thinking about this the other day. Who would you guys give a 10 in the temple for? I was wondering because it seems kind of generous to give players like Steve from Alhambra a 10 for running through rooms that were ridiculously easy. I feel that a player should earn a 10 and only a very select few contestants earn it. I can see why THK gave Steve a 10, but I don't think he really deserves. Maybe an 8 or 9.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 05, 2014, 01:19:39 AM
Yeah, all Steve had to do was breeze through a bunch of hit the actuator rooms. I probably would've given him a 9, a 10 is a way too generous. I don't understand, nor do I see why THK gave Steve a 10 for the temple run. Still a much better player than Lisa though. :roll: I'd personally give Jessica and/or Jarrid from Lost Hornpipe a 10 for the temple run. They were great. Oh yeah, and Gator too. :mrgreen: That guy was a beast through the temple. No player can EVER top Gator.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 05, 2014, 06:03:54 AM
RJF, are you going to rank the Snow Cone team next? I saw you talk about Snow Cone in the Main Spam thread and I was thinking that you will do rankings for the losers known as Casey and Heather.  :oops: If so, then good luck. Those two were just awful in the temple. Looking back at my rankings for them, I was generous. :oops:
My God, it was so frustrating just to watch the legend, let alone the Temple Run. I may as well, but be prepared for my anger.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 05, 2014, 03:15:20 PM
Snow Cone is one episode I can NEVER watch, let alone rank. In fact, I'm pretty sure I have TRJ's copied rankings saved to my word document. Instead of you know, using my own and ranking them myself. Good luck to you ranking them. And I definitely look forward to your rage too.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 05, 2014, 06:00:43 PM
THE SNOW CONE OF MOUNT KILIMANJARO:

Nissa:
Moat: 4.5
Steps: 6
Individual: 7.5
Team: 4.5
Overall (Normal Scoring): 5.63
Overall (My Scoring): 5.82

Kevin:
Moat: 4.5
Steps: 5
Individual: 6
Team: 4.5
Overall (Normal Scoring): 5
Overall (My Scoring): 5.12

Heather:
Moat: 4.5
Steps: 7.5
Individual: 2
Team: 5
Pre-Temple (Normal Scoring): 4.75
Pre-Temple (My Scoring): 4.32
Temple Run: 3.5
Overall (Normal Scoring): 4.5
Overall (My Scoring): 3.98

Casey:
Moat: 4.5
Steps: N/A
Indivivdual: 6
Team: 5
Pre-Temple (Normal Scoring): 5.17
Pre-Temple (My Scoring): 5.36
Temple Run: 2.5
Overall (Normal Scoring): 4.5
Overall (My Scoring): 4.04

Comments: Heather was PATHETIC in her Temple Game and the Temple. Casey was ABYSMAL in the Temple. Nissa was the best player, and it's not even by much. This whole episode was just pathetic. Why did it make the air? Ugh!
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 05, 2014, 07:41:48 PM
Wow, they ranked even worse than when TRJ ranked them. :shock: Nissa and Kevin would've done a MUCH better job in the temple than Casey and Heather did. Now I know why I never watch this episode. I've only seen the full episode once, and I intend on never watching it again. :roll:

Oh well, any idea which episode/players you're going to rank next?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 05, 2014, 10:10:00 PM
Here is my Snow Cone rankings for reference:


THE SNOW CONE OF MOUNT KILIMANJARO

Casey
Moat: 5.5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 3.5
Overall: 5.5

Heather
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 4
Team Game: 5
Temple Run: 4.5
Overall: 5.7

Nissa
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.25

Kevin
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.25

NOTES:
This episode sucked, I didn't like it at all. The Silver Snakes did not deserve to go to the temple and they barely beat the Red Jaguars in the final temple game. Heather looked pathetic in her temple game where she kept stepping on the same pole that was wrong. Also, she kept stumbling in her team game.

The temple run is not any better and Casey did not know what he was doing either. Heather fails for wasting all that time in the Dark Forest.


Your thoughts are exactly similar to my own. :lol: This was a horrible episode and Heather and Casey were a waste of space. Even though my rankings are a little generous for each player, we both came to the same conclusion that both Red Jaguar players were better than the Silver Snakes. :roll: Heather was pathetic in her temple game too. I don't think she got the concept of not stepping on the same sinking step. The temple run is utterly pathetic too. These two losers could not make it past the Dark Forests in three minutes. To see how pathetic this was, put this into perspective: It took Randy from Metal Beard one minute to be removed from the temple in the Dark Forest. Yet, Heather and Casey could not make it past the Dark Forest in their entire three minutes. :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll: Plus, Heather cheats by prying the the Dark Forest doors open with her hands. I think this is my most hated episode on the show. At least Golden Cricket Cage had some okay parts to it. This episode was garbage from the start.  :roll:  :roll: That whole production day sucked actually, except for Henry Hudson.

I should have my Chandragupta rankings posted tomorrow too. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 05, 2014, 10:31:19 PM
Randy went second, NOT first. ;) You're still fogging up on episodes you should know by heart now.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 05, 2014, 10:59:42 PM
I just noticed I gave Casey a 3.5 and Heather a 4.5 in the temple.  :shock: I definitely need to go back and fix that for sure. They both deserve a 2 at best.  :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 06, 2014, 05:25:00 AM
Wow, they ranked even worse than when TRJ ranked them. :shock: Nissa and Kevin would've done a MUCH better job in the temple than Casey and Heather did. Now I know why I never watch this episode. I've only seen the full episode once, and I intend on never watching it again. :roll:

Oh well, any idea which episode/players you're going to rank next?
Any requests? I don't know which to choose from.

ETA: Actually, I'm gonna do "The Discarded Seal Of Ivan The Terrible". And yes, there will be rage. Not because of a low score, but because of a high score that was never properly rewarded.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 06, 2014, 06:23:43 AM
THE DISCARDED SEAL OF IVAN THE TERRIBLE:

Travis:
Moat: 8
Steps: N/A
Individual: 9
Team: 9
Pre-Temple (Normal Scoring): 8.67
Pre-Temple (My Scoring): 8.86
Temple Run: 9.5
Overall (Normal Scoring): 8.88
Overall (My Scoring): 9.15

Elise:
Moat: 8
Steps: 8
Individual: 9.5
Team: N/A
Pre-Temple: (Normal Scoring): 8.5
Pre-Temple: (My Scoring): 8.82
Temple Run: 9.5
Overall (Normal Scoring): 8.75
Overall (My Scoring): 9.17

Jimmy:
Moat: 9
Steps: N/A
Individual: 7
Team: 8
Overall (Normal Scoring): 8
Overall (My Scoring): 7.71

Ashley:
Moat: 9
Steps: 9
Indivivdual:  7
Team: N/A
Overall (Normal Scoring): 8.33
Overall (My Scoring): 7.91

Comments: WHY?????? Seriously, why couldn't Travis and Elisa have been rewarded WELL? Why did they have to such dicks and make the hardest layout in the history of LOTHT for these people? Is it because the Orange Iguanas were great too? And because the Orange Iguanas were 1st in the Moat and Steps, the Green Monkeys needed to suffer because they beat them? Ugh!
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 06, 2014, 11:58:14 AM
Travis and Elisa were easily the best team robbed in the temple. They might've been the best team ever on Legends and still couldn't win! I honestly can't think of one team would do better with their layout either. Also, both teams were very dominant in this this episode from the moat to the temple run. The Orange Iguanas dominated the Steps of Knowledge and Moat. Travis and Elisa dominated the temple games and completed all three of them before time was up. I wouldn't have mind if they got both 10's in the temple either. I couldn't find a single flaw in their performance. This was a very solid episode and Travis and Elisa were robbed.  :(

Good rankings. I should be able to post mine later today.  ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 06, 2014, 04:12:28 PM
Yeah, Travis and Elisa were robbed, big time. And I have a request for you: How about ranking Olivia Emma and Robert next? Let's see if they really do get too much credit. I remember you ranked them in the Spam Topic a long time ago, and I ranked them somewhere in this thread last year.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 06, 2014, 06:55:30 PM
Yeah, Travis and Elisa were robbed, big time. And I have a request for you: How about ranking Olivia Emma and Robert next? Let's see if they really do get too much credit. I remember you ranked them in the Spam Topic a long time ago, and I ranked them somewhere in this thread last year.
Honestly? I already have a feeling they're gonna have high scores, particularly Olivia-Emma. I know the run is simplistic, but you can't deny the players blazed through the episode.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 06, 2014, 07:46:26 PM
Exactly. And here's my rankings of it for reference:

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THE APPLEWOOD AMULET OF EMILIANO ZAPATA

Robert:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7

Olivia-Emma:
Moat: 10
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 8
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 8.85

Simone:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 8
Overall: 7.5

Jason:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Overall: 6.75

NOTES:
Another excellent episode! This moat seemed to take a long time too. The mist was completely gone when the camera panned over to the Purple Parrots after the moat. And yes, those Blue Barracudas who "broke" the gong were Janet and Chris from "The Priceless Portrait of the Polynesian Girl." For the Steps of Knowledge, the Silver Snakes naturally take the Blue Barracudas place. And they do answer at least two questions correctly. I don't understand why people say "they didn't even answer one question."

The temple games were VERY close and neck and neck. But really, the Purple Parrots and the Green Monkeys were neck and neck all episode. They were 1 and 2 in the moat, very smart on the Steps of Knowledge, and tied the temple games with 1.5 pendants. Speaking of which, the third temple game was just impressive. NONE of the four players fell off the horse. Though Robert was starting to falter a little at the end. I also love how when the game is over, Kirk sounds like he's saying "Oh shit, he's tired!" XD In the end, Olivia-Emma gets the tiebreaker right and they go to the temple! Recording yet another tiebreaker loss for the Purple Parrots. :( I wouldn't change the results for anything though, I just wish both teams would've gone to the temple.

And the temple run was great. Their layout wasn't particularly hard, but the rooms were the hardest the show had to offer at the time. Robert goes in and he does a decent job. He gets removed by two consecutive temple guards in Medusa's Lair and the King's Storeroom, and Olivia-Emma takes over. She passes up the half pendant, but it doesn't affect the outcome, and I assume temple guard was in the Crypt. She gets to the Viper's Nest, has trouble finding the Amulet, but she grabs it and blazes out of the temple. The ending was such a nailbiter, she wins with literally one second left on the clock. Recording by far the closest finish in the show's history. Both Robert and Olivia Emma were so excited, and so was Kirk. Solid.

As you can see, Olivia Emma ranked very high. And nobody ranked worse than a 6 either. Those scores look about right, don't they?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 07, 2014, 01:12:37 AM
Olivia-Emma and Robert were a solid team throughout their episode and I hope they rank high. They were first in the moat, first in the Steps, and they dominated the temple games. Olivia-Emma finished her "Tierra y Libertad" phrase before the Purple Parrot girl could even start on the Libertad. Plus, Olivia-Emma never let go of her horse once. All four players were amazing in that temple game. And the Green Monkeys did a good job in the temple too. Olivia-Emma's exit was very solid, and she brought the artifact out with little time to herself. I would like to see Chris (Lost Lariat), Ron, Jason (Icarus), and Kimberly bring their artifacts out with much more time than Olivia-Emma.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 10, 2014, 07:23:39 AM
THE APPLEWOOD AMULET OF EMILIANO ZAPATA:

Robert:
Moat: 9
Steps: 6
Individual: 8
Team: 9
Pre-Temple (Normal Scoring): 8
Pre-Temple (My Scoring): 8.12
Temple Run: 7.5
Overall (Normal Scoring): 7.9
Overall (My Scoring): 8.07

Olivia-Emma:
Moat: 10
Steps: 9
Individual: 9.5
Team: 10
Tiebreaker: +1
Pre-Temple: (Normal Scoring): 9.75
Pre-Temple: (My Scoring): 9.82
Temple Run: 8.5
Overall (Normal Scoring): 9.4
Overall (My Scoring): 9.17

Jason:
Moat: 10
Steps: N/A
Individual: 8
Team: 9
Overall (Normal Scoring): 9
Overall (My Scoring): 8.71

Simone:
Moat: 7
Steps: 8
Indivivdual:  8.5
Team: 9
Overall (Normal Scoring): 8.13
Overall (My Scoring): 8.41

Comments: Both teams were tough throughout this game. Especially Olivia-Emma. And this is a BIG especially for Olivia-Emma. Everyone was great. Olivia-Emma was fantastic. Yes, it was a simple run. But her skill still showed in that run just like the Moat (which she blazed through) and certain questions (which she knew without hearing the choices) and in the Temple Games. I'm not gonna keep gushing about her because all the players were great together.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 10, 2014, 01:36:54 PM
Robert and Olivia-Emma were a very strong team all day. I think a lot of people overlook them because of how "simple" the layout was for them. And even then, their layout was not even easy at all. Medusa's Lair, King's Storeroom, and the Shrine of the Silver Monkey were some of the the toughest rooms that this layout had to offer. And honestly, none of the Season 2 layouts came off as being tough to me either. Even Nostradamus had a similar path with the Laser Light Room tacked on. And the Room of the Mandarin Hand was easier than Medusa's Lair.

As for the episode itself, it was great all day. The moat was close and exciting. The Blue Barracudas knocked the button of their team gong in the moat. Maybe that is why they were disqualified. :lol: Just kidding, it was because of a spotter error that sent the Silver Snakes back. The legend was good and actually tied in with the Atocha legend a little bit. That is how you know that this episode and Atocha were taped back-to-back. The Green Monkeys were really good in the temple games. Olivia-Emma finished her "Tierra y Libertad" phrase before the Purple Parrot girl could start on her "Libertad". Also, the team game was very impressive too. Neither player on either team fell off the spinning horse. Plus, Olivia-Emma didn't even become loose once either. The temple win was a solid victory in my book. I honestly don't see anything wrong with the team performance either. They seemed to complete their rooms at a good pace to me. And they had to deal with some tough objectives along the way. The only detrimental part was Olivia-Emma passing up the half-pendant. But I don't count it against her because it had no bearing on the final outcome. Just like I don't try to harp on Jarrid from "Pirate Captain" for running into the Secret Password with a half-pendant. The ending was very exciting too and the one second win was very impressive. The Green Monkeys totally deserve the high score they get and Olivia-Emma was probably one of the best girls on the show. The only girl that I would rank ahead of her is Jessica from Pirate Captain.

Good rankings, and I totally agree with you. I definitely remember ranking this production day too, but it got lost in the database crash in March 2012. It was a great production day and all those episodes were good in my book. Even Benjamin Franklin. I really wouldn't mind rewatching this production day again.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 10, 2014, 04:27:19 PM
YES THANK YOU! See, I told you Olivia Emma was an excellent player. She deserved to win, she and Robert were strong players all day. And even the Purple Parrots were a strong team too, but they still didn't have anything on the Green Monkeys. I really don't undersatnd the hate for this run. So their layout was easy, so they barely escaped from the temple. It's not like they were the only team to have a "direct path" layout. The Genghis Khan team had that kind of layout, the Cleopatra team had that, and of course Shaka Zulu had that too. And none of their objectvie were easy at all. So if anything, their layout was kind of hard. Medusa's Lair, (even the watered down version of it), the King's Stoeroom, the Shrine, all pretty hard objectives even for an early Season 2 temple. And it's not like they can choose their path either. This is just how the producers set it up, it's not like Robert and Olivia Emma had a choice anyways. They were an excellent team, and I'm glad they won. I would honestly go as far as saying they would win with a Nostradamus layout too. Mush Pot Hat I don't know, but they would probably win with a Nostradamus layout. I just don't understand the hate for this run at all.

I have another request, can you rank Tarrah and Chris from Freydis next? I remember you ranked them in the Spam Topic long ago, and I remember Chris ranking very high. And your rankings on Amulet are a lot like mine too. You guys agree with my rankings on them, right? I know I'm too generous, but I just want to make sure you agree with my rankings as well.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 10, 2014, 05:10:51 PM
Yeah, Olivia-Emma and Robert would've definitely won with the Levitating Dog Leash layout. Sure, that layout had one extra room to it. But you can't always compare layouts to the number of rooms entered. In Applewood Amulet, Olivia-Emma and Robert both had to spend time climbing walls. In the Dog Leash layout, Jason and Elizabeth simply had to jump down into the Pit. So the Applewood Amulet team would save time there. Also, the extra room for the Green Monkeys would've been the Laser Light Room. That room was not difficult in anyway unless you are Stephen from Silk Sash. And the Room of the Mandarin Hand was MUCH easier than Medusa's Lair. Plus, Olivia-Emma would have an easier time to exit in the Dog Leash run because she could use the much easier upper floor to exit. So yeah, the Applewood Amulet team would've won with the Dog Leash layout. Just like the Dog Leash team would've won with Applewood Amulet's layout.

I don't expect anyone to like a win, but I feel that certain wins get picked on way too much. Applewood Amulet, Lost Gold Mine, Metal Beard, and Annie Taylor are the ones that come to mind. I think some people feel that some teams are not deserving or talented just because they don't like the win. I don't like Butch Cassidy at all, but that doesn't mean I don't think Paula would win the Annie Taylor or Applewood Amulet layout. I am not talking about anyone in specific, just in a general observation. Even Bobby and Brittany might've come close to a win with the Lost Gold Mine layout (although this one is kind of pushing it). And this was definitely a bigger issue in the past thanks to people like outer space and company who thought that every contestant was bad for taking a direct path. And then we ha the crap where people thought Applewood Amulet was a rigged win because the producers wanted the one second finish. What next, the producers wanted Tarrah to take a face plant in the Pit for the one second win? Sorry, I don't mean to rant at all but certain wins get blasted a little too much.

But yeah, you should totally do Milk Bucket next. Both me and PP319 ranked the Purple Parrots from that episode. So we can use both of our rankings in comparison.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 10, 2014, 07:56:38 PM
Plus, Applewood Amulet is MUCH more exciting and had a more memorable ending than say Silver Horseshoe or Dr. Livingstone. This run came all the way down to the wire, and Olivia Emma just barely finishing with a second left on the clock with a short path is irrelevant. Like I said above, if you REALLY think about it, Applewood Amulet really wasn't easy at all. Every room both Robert and Olivia Emma entered took a lot of time to complete. And missing the half pendant shouldn't be a reason to pick on them either. I honestly think it was BETTER that Olivia Emma didn't pick it up. She needed all the time she could get here, if either player had done even more thing differently, they would've lost. I think people just don't like wins like Amulet, John Sutter and Lucky Pillow just because everyone else likes it. I get it, everyones entitled to their own opinions, but when a team wins on an easier path/layout, why think about the worst things? We should be glad we had contestants that even remotely knew what they were doing. We should be glad Olivia Emma even knew had to escape the temple properly. Jason from Icarus, Ron, Tara, and Kimberly couldn't say that. I would go as far as saying Olivia Emma is up there with Jessica from Lost Hornpipe for best female player ever. She's literally my second highest ranked player ever in my rankings. I know my rankings don't mean anything, but Olivia Emma to me was flawless, easy layout or not. There I said it.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 14, 2014, 03:54:02 PM
And you know what, I've been thinking. I think I might delete my "Top 10 Best/Worst Players" rankings. Looking back at them, I was way, way too generous with those rankings. And not only that, but I included players who shouldn't be on the list in the first place. Like the temple game losers, it's really not fair to include them on the list when they didn't even make it to the temple. And a lot of my rankings don't make any sense either. Plus, I can definitely tell no one else liked them either. I don't expect everyone to feel the same way about certain players as I do. And I don't expect everyones rankings to match up. But I feel like I had no business posting a "Top 10" list when I'm nowhere near done posting rankings, if I'm ever gonna post another set at all. I get it, this isn't my thread. This is just something all of us are continuing, finishing up what someone else started. So now it's my turn to rant, and I know this makes me come off bad. And I'll keep my rankings of individual players. But I feel like I'm just doing everyone a giant favor of potentially deleting my "Top 10" list. Maybe I'll start all over with a new list, fixing up all the mistakes I made. Anyone else who wants to rant about this, you're more than welcome to.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 14, 2014, 04:06:35 PM
What was wrong with that top 10/bottom 10 list? I had no problems with it. I think you should keep it up and we can amend it as we continue to rank more players. ;) It was actually a good idea and I would've made a list like that eventually. Plus, the players that were on that list actually belonged there. Even if there were some surprises. Like Jessie from "Silk Sash" deserved to be on that list. She sucked bad in her moat, only won her temple game because she faced the idiot Green Monkeys boy, and wasn't that great in the temple. Also, the players like John, Tia, Claude, Kristen, and Ron totally deserved to be on it. Even if I ranked all of those players, they would probably still end up on that list. I say keep the list and we can work on it as we do more rankings. I like RJF's idea of ranking episodes individually instead of by production day. It will be much easier to discuss each episode individually then talk about four players at once. Since I only need to do Thornwood Gavel, I will post my rankings for that production day individually starting with Chandragupta tonight. ;) :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 14, 2014, 06:43:05 PM
True, but most of my rankings were from a year ago anyways. So they are a bit outdated. Though if I were to rank them again, my views on them probably wouldn't change all that much. And I also like idea of ranking just one episode, instead of a whole production day. I was actually thinking of doing something like that too. Like ranking Jennifer and Damian from John Sutter. I could rank them, and the Silver Snakes they faced in the temple games. It would certainly save me all the time of ranking three different episodes along with it from that day. And god knows I won't even touch episodes like Cricket Cage and Lost Hammer. :roll: Plus, PP319 ranked individual teams (even the non Purple Parrot teams) earlier on in this thread too. And his rankings were pretty fair too, especially the ones he did on John Sutter. :mrblue: I might rank Sultan Saladin individually too, since I don't have every episode from S1L3 ranked either. But first things first, your production day rankings. It would be interesting to see how Zac and Miriam rank. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 15, 2014, 12:51:13 AM
Yeah, if you rank Jennifer and Damian from Lost Gold Mine, that means we will have 4 different people that ranked them (me, you, PP319, and THK).  :mrblue: Maybe we can take the overall score from each member and average it together to get one score? Kind of like how we did in the "Production Day" rankings for the Legends Episode Ranking thread. I know I have said this before, but I still think THK's rankings for Jennifer and Damian were too harsh. Damian finished with a 5.70 overall while Jennifer finished with a 7. Sorry, but this was way too low for a dominant team that finished first in the moat, first in the steps, won two pendants in the temple games, and won their temple run with a layout that was lengthier than most Season 1 wins. I don't care if they were from Season 1, Jennifer and Damian were a solid team and probably the best Blue Barracudas team next to Annie Taylor.  :mrblue:

But yeah I am going to start off by posting Chandragupta before the night is over.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 15, 2014, 01:31:45 AM
Couldn't agree more, I much preferred you and PP319's rankings of John Sutter than THK's. How Jennifer, Damian, and Lea ranked worse than Joe and Gabby from Golden Ship is beyond me. I also agree that Jennifer and Damien are my second favorite Blue Barracuda team behind Lucky Pillow. :mrblue: Also, RJF could probably rank John Sutter's team as well. So that way we can get five different rankings and view points of the John Sutter team. :mrblue:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 15, 2014, 01:53:27 AM
Here is my player rankings for both the Silver Snakes and Green Monkeys for "Chandragupta". Don't be alarmed at the different layout below. It is the exact same thing as we've been doing for the other players in this thread. I only changed it up a little bit because I like do things a little creatively. I don't expect anyone to copy this format. I don't even know if I am going to use this format myself. This is just a test. I hope you enjoy.  :mrgreen:

THE LION-HEADED BRACELET OF CHANDRAGUPTA

Andrea 
:monkeys2:

Shaun 
:monkeys2:

Moat7Moat7
Steps of Knowledge8.5Steps of Knowledge7.5
Individual Game6Individual Game8
Team Game8Team Game8
Temple Run8Temple RunN/A
Overall Score:7.50Overall Score:7.63

Katie 
 :snakes2: 

Matthew 
:snakes2:

Moat8.5Moat8.5
Steps of Knowledge8Steps of Knowledge8.5
Individual Game8Individual Game7
Team Game7Team Game7
Overall Score:7.88Overall Score:7.78

NOTES:
This episode featured two great teams and they were both exciting to watch. But the star of this episode was Andrea of the Green Monkeys.  :mrgreen: I am surprised no one really talks about her performance in this episode. She was solid all day as well as Shaun. Seriously, I hardly ever hear anything said about Andrea except when talk about her win. The whole episode is a fun watch also. The moat in this episode was very quick. The Silver Snakes were very swift in this moat and pulled ahead of the other teams. The Green Monkeys were close behind too and it was a very close call for the last three spots. Neither team faltered or fell in the water.

The Steps of Knowledge was just as close as the moat. Both the Green Monkeys and Silver Snakes got three questions correct each and Olmec only asked 6 questions altogether! Also, each player got at least one question correct. The Silver Snakes were slightly more impressive as they gave most of their answers without Olmec revealing his choices. On a side note, I forgot Kirk's cheesy line about the cougars or "cats" on the side of the Steps of Knowledge. :roll:

The temple games were pretty good too. The first temple game had the overused Olmec spinning game. Katie kept a good pace in this temple game and only fell off one time. Andrea kind of moved too fast though and fell off quite a few times that kept putting her behind. The second temple game was a little strange because Matthew and Shaun had to take their giant hamster wheel back and forth between two continents. The temple game ended in a tie, but I gave Matthew a lower score because he kept stalling behind Shaun. The final temple game was very close too where the players had to launch themselves onto a net and collect different scrolls. The Green Monkeys beat the Silver Snakes by one scroll, although it would've been two if Andrea made the last one she threw in. :P

The temple run is solid, and I didn't find many things wrong with Andrea's performance. She moved fast in all of her rooms and completed them at a good pace. It felt like a couple of areas she slowed down a little bit, but I can't argue about her performance too much. After all, she got the job done and scored a win with quite some time left on the clock. Plus, she signaled her half-pendant back to her partner even though he never entered. I enjoyed this temple win a lot. Unfortunately, nothing really sticks out about it at all even though her performance was solid. But I have to say that is a good thing or else her run could be scrutinized like Tiffani from Sir Gawain and Missy from Annie Taylor.

Overall, this was a solid episode and both the Silver Snakes and Green Monkeys were good teams. Even though the Silver Snakes got a slightly higher score, the Green Monkeys were still a damn good team. Their only weak moment was Andrea's individual game. Other than that, the Green Monkeys were awesome and gave us a memorable experience. I am surprised that this episode doesn't get more love either. It was fun all the way through with close competition, good players, and enthusiasm all around from the Green Monkeys to Kirk Fogg. The high score PPF gave this episode in the other ranking thread was justified. An underrated episode for sure.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 15, 2014, 02:11:31 AM
Whoa, nice new format. :o Why didn't we ever think of this? Besides the fact that it would be a lot of scrolling if you ranked four episodes at once. :lol: Anyways, Chandragupta was a great episode, very underrated. Time and time again we talk about episodes like Royal Torque, Lost Hornpipe, Kamehameha, etc. But never this episode. I loved the moat for this episode. In my rankings of both the Green Monkeys and the Silver Snakes, I gave them near perfect scores. Since literally none of the six teams fell into the moat. Even the moat crossing losers managed to stay on their raft the entire time. The Steps of Knowledge was a double sweep as we know, and I loved how Andrea answered all of her questions before the choices were even revealed. :mrgreen: The temple games were neat too, it was do or die for either team. Especially since the Silver Snakes were leading the Green Monkeys 1-0.5 pendants before the final game. And the temple run was great too. Besides a few slow downs in some rooms, Andrea was a solid player and she never got turned around once. This temple run is definitely overlooked, it's quite a pity that it never ever gets talked about here, yet we're always gushing about how wonderful Royal Torque is. While the run is a bit on the uneventful side, it was still a great effort by Andrea, and she totally deserved to win. And yes, this episode got a very impressive 8.2 average by me in the episode ranking thread. :mrgreen: This episode was almost flawless, and I can't even think of a single thing I didn't like about the episode.

Overall, great rankings. ;) You definitely hit the nail on the head. So will we be seeing the rankings of Zac very soon? I remember I ranked him pretty high too. :mrsilver:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 15, 2014, 02:25:09 AM
Yeah, Chandragupta's win was a little forgettable which is why it never really gets talked about. I personally never had a single complaint about this win either. I mean not every contestant had to move as fast as Gator. Andrea moved just fine and got the job done. This win kind of misses out on my top 10, but that is only because it didn't have many things memorable about it. But yeah, this episode could use more publicity. Even though it ended in a win, it probably is never talked about around here because the win was kind of uneventful like you said. Meanwhile episodes like Kamehameha, Pirate Captain, and Icarus are talked about a lot because of how eventful their temple runs are. Although in their defense, I think those episodes deserve their praise at least. But Chandragupta should get more attention around here too. Although I think most of the people like Queen Boadicea mostly for the run. I never hear much talk about the earlier rounds of that episode. ;)

My next rankings will be for Lion-Slashed Jacket. I am glad you like that format because I want to use it again for that episode too. ;) This episode will be a big step down from Chandragupta, but Bandit Queen will be a step up again. I haven't done Thornwood Gavel yet though. Now that one will be interesting to rank.  :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 15, 2014, 02:35:31 AM
Wait, Icarus gets praised? ;) I mean, the episode itself is memorable, and when you ranked them, everyone seemed to do pretty well. But nobody likes Jason and his choke job. Not that he deserves any sympathy or anything. :roll: And yeah, Chandragupta really should get talked about more around here. In my rankings of both teams in Chandragupta, I gave the players very high scores for rounds like the moat and the steps. And I'm pretty sure Andrea's overall ranking came out to be in the 8 range. I really like this episode, and I liked Andrea and her enthusiasm throughout the episode. All four players were great sports all day. I'll take this episode over Icarus any day. Good luck ranking Lion Slashed Jacket too. I personally hate this episode, I find it to be dull and lacking in every aspect. Besides the "What are horses?" answer on the steps and the tiebreaker, nothing happens. I honestly forget this episode exists most of the time. I have this episode ranked too, but I don't really remember how everyone did. I'm pretty sure all the players ranked just plain average overall. They will probably rank average for you as well. But, we'll just have to wait and see. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 15, 2014, 04:00:55 AM
I'll probably rank the same episode. Fair warning. I have heaps of praise for the Temple Run. Mostly because Andrea actually knew how to deal with a production error.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 15, 2014, 10:24:16 AM
Lion-Slashed Jacket falls into the "episodes I could care less about" pile. It was a boring and uneventful episode. It wasn't bad, but it was so boring. I wouldn't expect these kids to rank as high as the Chandragupta kids. At least Bandit Queen will be a step up though from Lion-Slashed Jacket. I wouldn't mind seeing RJF rank Chandragupta next either. Feel free to give Andrea as much praise as you like too.  :mrgreen: I have no problems with her at all, and she could use a little more love too. It will be interesting to see how close our numbers will be. I might change Andrea's temple score to a 9 also because she hardly did anything wrong in the temple.  ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 15, 2014, 03:52:14 PM
You know what, I'm gonna rank Andrea too. Since everyone else is doing it. I'm not trying to copy you guys. I just want in on the rankings too. And I'm gonna give her lots and lots of praise. I will praise her so much, it'll make Gator, Jessica, Jarrid, and Olivia Emma look pathetic in comparison. I've said it once, and I'll say it again. I hate Sacagewea. I think it's a terrible episode, and I honestly can't believe it got a 6 average in the episode ranking thread. I might just change the final score on that. And quite frankly, I don't want to post those rankings or Thornwood Gavel, another episode I don't like. So I'm just gonna rank Chandragupta and also Bandit Queen. I hope you don't mind. Otherwise, I'll just post another episode. I want to compare our rankings too. I just have tendency to rank my players too high. This is a run that deserves much more love than the really overrated Royal Torque. A run I don't understand the love for. Can I also praise her all I want, and join in on the lovefest as well? Something everyone else has so failed to do so. This is so very obviously a player that is wildly underrated.

And is the spelling "Katie" or "Katy" for the Silver Snake girl? I could've sworn it was "Katy," but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 16, 2014, 12:58:09 AM
And here it is now, my rankings of the Lion Headed Bracelet episode. :mrgreen:

THE LION-HEADED BRACELET OF CHANDRAGUPTA

Andrea:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7.8

Shaun:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 8.25

Katie:
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.75

Matthew:
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.5

NOTES:

Well, what else can I say? This was a great episode! Seriously, the moat was absolutely flawless. None of the six teams fell off at any point. Hence my very high scores of all four players for the moat. Both the Green Monkeys and the Silver Snakes were very smart on the steps by double sweeping it. I especially liked how smart Andrea was. She answered all of her questions before the three choices were even revealed! The temple games were great too. The only problems were Andrea's individual game, which she kind of struggled with. But that's okay, she was an excellent sport about it and accepted her loss of the temple game gracefully. The only other bout of faltering was Matthew struggling a bit in the team game. But the temple game round was so close, you literally did not know which team was going to gain access to the temple. And the temple run was fantastic. :mrgreen: I don't care how uneventful the temple run was, Andrea was a solid player and knew what to do in every room. The only slow down she encountered was the King's Storeroom/Ancient Warriors barrier not going down. But she fixed that herself, which gains her extra points with me. She even signaled back the half pendant to Shaun, and I mean she literally waves the pendant to him. Very smart move. Andrea grabs the bracelet with 44 seconds on the clock, and escapes with 6 seconds to spare. Temple runs don't get any better than this. She escaped through the whole cluttered bottom floor, like there was nothing to it. That takes a lot of determination and just goes to show what a very skilled and strong player she was. Andrea was excited, Shaun was excited, Kirk was excited, I was excited. This was an excellent temple run, and both Andrea and Shaun totally deserved their win. :mrgreen:

And there you have it. I praised Andrea like there was no tomorrow. Please give me your feedback if you like or dislike my rankings of them. ;) And let me know if my rankings were too high or generous, and doesn't stack up at all with everyone elses rankings. I hope everyone likes it.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 16, 2014, 09:52:04 AM
Nope, I definitely agree with your rankings.  :mrgreen: Both of these teams were awesome and strong in this episode. I think I am going to raise my moat score for Andrea and Shaun because like you said, the moat was flawless. The double sweep of the Steps of Knowledge was exciting too. I think this only happened before in Icarus? Another Green-Silver temple game coincidentally. In my rankings, I think I underestimated Shaun too. A lot of people talk about how strong he was in this episode even if he never entered the temple. I think the Green Monkeys would've won even if Shaun went into the temple first. But Andrea was solid though, so I have no problem with her temple performance. She did stall in a couple of rooms though like the Shrine and Quicksand Bog. But that is no big deal because she was swift everywhere else. This will always be a solid Solo victory in my book no matter how forgettable this win will be. I think I am going to go back to my rankings and increase some of the scores for Andrea and Shaun.  :mrgreen: On a side note, Andrea wouldn't have encountered a single guard if she tried the far left suit of armor first. Since her temple guard was in the suit of armor that was NOT the one that opened the door. ;) Kind of like Elisa's guard in Ivan the Terrible.

Good rankings, overall. This is always an enjoyable episode to watch. I was going to post Lion-Slashed Jacket last night, but I was feeling under the wather so I am going to post them later today.  ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 16, 2014, 03:49:23 PM
And boy was it a lot less work posting just one episode, instead of four episodes. :lol: And yeah, Shaun was also a strong player. They definitely would've won just as well if Shaun had gone in first. Both the Green Monkeys and the Silver Snakes were a strong, neck and neck team all day. Neither of the four players ranked worse than 6 in this episode. That's great, even for Season 3. :mrgreen: And our rankings are pretty similar too. All four players rank above a 7.50 overall, regardless on who scored who in what round. So that's pretty good too. ;)

I'm definitely gonna rank Bandit Queen next. :mrsilver: I figure it would be fitting that you rank Lion Slashed Jacket next, then I rank Bandit Queen. And you can rank Thornwood Gavel after that and so on.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 16, 2014, 05:26:17 PM
Bandit Queen will be interesting because I can see both Miriam and the Red Jaguars ranking low. That Red Jaguars team sucked and I am glad they didn't make it to the temple. Even if Zac's tiebreaker answer was a little lenient. As for me, I am going to post the Lion-Slashed Jacket rankings before the night is over. Once I am done with the other episodes from this production day, I am going to start with Blackbeard and ranking from the very "first episode" to the end. Of course, I won't rank episodes like the S1L2 day.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 16, 2014, 06:47:21 PM
Wait, you won't rank Blackbeard like you did S1L2? What do you mean by that, you're gonna rank everything in the new format? :huh:

And yeah, both Miriam and Jackie, (the Red Jaguar girl), definitely ranked low. Jackie looked like she didn't even want to be on the show the entire time. Even Zac said in her interview that her parents kept shouting "Smile Jackie!" in the separate green room. Zac and Russell ranked pretty high if that helps. I know I'm alone on this, but I happen to really like this temple run. I know Miriam stalled too much, but I think it's a great temple run, mostly thanks to Zac. But I know it's a pretty unpopular opinion. And I still prefer Metal Beard to this run, so it's not like I'm totally biased when it comes to those two runs.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 17, 2014, 12:28:27 AM
Plus, the Red Jaguars were sore losers in Bandit Queen. They were upset because the producers accepted Zac's tiebreaker answer even though it wasn't the exact answer to what Olmec was looking for. But his answer was fine in my book and their were more questionable answers on the show like War Fan and Sforza. Also, I am not crazy about teams that win their team game only and go to the temple due to a tiebreaker fail on the other teams part. This does not apply to all runs, but it bothers me for runs like Alhambra and Butch Cassidy. So I am glad that Jackie and Russel didn't go to the temple. As for the run itself, I think it ranks high on a lot of people's list. And for good reasons too, because Zac was awesome.  :mrsilver: This is probably my favorite Silver Snakes episode on the whole show. Well, I like Galileo a little better. But Bandit Queen is great also.  :mrsilver:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 17, 2014, 02:52:19 AM
I believe it was the parents who complained about the tiebreaker question. But thankfully for Zac and Miriam those complaints were ignored. It makes me wonder if there were any other parents on the show who were poor sports at their kids losing. But yeah, I'm glad Jackie and Russell of the Red Jaguars didn't go to the temple. Jackie would've been the perfect partner for Jared from Mystical Spellbook. ;) Plus, I'm pretty sure Zac said in his interview that Russell talked smacked about him and insulted him backstage as well. So maybe it wasn't just the parents who were bad sports.

And yeah, I like Galileo too, as well as Bandit Queen. They're definitely two of my favorite Silver Snake episodes ever. Speaking of Galileo, that might be among the individual episodes I might rank at some point. Since I'm not even gonna touch Blackbeard, it would only be fitting to just rank Galileo and save me all the time. So be on the lookout for my rankings of Jammin' Jon and Jennifer soon. :mrsilver:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 25, 2014, 07:17:46 AM
I'm gonna do the Lucky Pillow next. Because Missy and all.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 25, 2014, 12:30:27 PM
Good choice. I can see both John and Missy ranking high. And you can never go wrong with rewatching Annie Taylor either. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 25, 2014, 03:45:28 PM
And I'm gonna rank John Sutter. I bet you're looking forward to that as well. *cough* :mrblue:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 25, 2014, 04:55:28 PM
THE LUCKY PILLOW OF ANNIE TAYLOR

Missy:
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual Game: N/A (Because that squirt game was just pathetic)
Team Game: 7
Pre-Temple (Normal scoring): 7.67
Pre-Temple (My scoring): 8.05
Temple Run: 9
Overall (Normal scoring): 8.25
Overall (My scoring): 8.54

John:
Moat: 8.5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 4.5
Team Game: 8
Tiebreaker: +1
Pre-Temple (Normal scoring): 7.5
Pre-Temple (My scoring): 6.59

Jamea:
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: N/A
Individual Game: 6.5
Team Game: 7.5
Overall (Normal scoring): 7.33
Overall (My scoring): 7.07

Stuart:
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: N/A
Team Game: 7.5
Overall (Normal scoring): 8.5
Overall (My scoring): 7.64

Comments:
They really should've not used the squirt game altogether, because I needed to gauge Missy and Stuart better. But, yeah these are my scores. I did give John a low score for his own Temple Game because he struggled a lot in there. Still, Missy owned this episode.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 25, 2014, 06:50:59 PM
Fixed the coloring from green to purple on the Purple Parrots. Otherwise, I agree with your rankings. ;) Missy was a great player, and she doesn't deserve any of the criticism she gets just because A. she took a direct path and B. she didn't move as fast. Yet Paula is supposedly the best player of Season 2 because "she was fast going through the rooms." :roll:

Anyways, I'll post John Sutter sometime this week, maybe even tonight if I'm in the mood.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 25, 2014, 09:54:32 PM
Yeah, the Blue Barracudas were a great team in Annie Taylor. I can't believe people would compare a classic episode like that one to average crap like Butch Cassidy. The Blue Barracudas were not an undeserving team in the earlier rounds like outer space use to make them out to be. I guess it was because they made a comeback in the team game? Other than that, they were strong in the other rounds. I remember ranking Missy and John before the database crash, and my score was in the 8's range for her. I agree that the luck based game was crap too. Missy didn't even get any correct at all. Talk about unlucky? John got his ass handed to him in his game too, and he lost to a girl. The team game was a close call, but everybody acts like John and Missy scraped by. But no one mentions how Paula almost fell off her horse at the last second? And I agree with your temple score too. If THK was ranking her, he probably would give Missy a 6. But she didn't even do anything wrong and I think a 9 is fitting. Good rankings for this team too. I love this episode and wish my rankings weren't deleted. :cry:

Also, I am looking forward to the Map to the Lost Gold Mine rankings. Another episode I can never get tired of watching.  :mrblue: Like I said, I am thinking about making some kind of post that compares all the rankings for every player to other users rankings. I expect Jennifer and Damian to rank high for you like they did for me and PP319.  :mrblue:  :mrblue:  :mrblue:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 25, 2014, 10:00:17 PM
My rankings of Lucky Pillow:

Quote
THE LUCKY PILLOW OF ANNIE TAYLOR

Missy:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: N/A (She had the squirting/luck based game, so I can't really score that)
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7.5

John:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 7

Stuart:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: N/A (Again, he had the squirting game, so I can't score it)
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.7

Jamea:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Overall: 6.5

As you can see, I also did not rank Missy or Stuart for the squirting game. Had it been a memory based game instead of a pure luck game, I probably would've scored them. If THK were ranking Missy, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he gave her a "5" for the temple run. Didn't he give Damian from John Sutter the same score? Speaking of John Sutter, yes Jennifer and Damian rank high. :mrblue: Just how high will they rank? You'll just have to wait and see. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 25, 2014, 10:43:40 PM
For reference, here are the overall scores for some of the temple teams with multiple rankings. I could use this post to keep track of each team with multiple rankings. ;)

*CREDITS TO PURPLE PARROTS FAN FOR HELPING TO UPDATE THIS LIST! :mrpurple:


EpisodePlayer 1Player 2
BLACKBEARDSabrina
THK: 4
James:
THK: 6
GOLDEN CUPKatherine
THK: 6.6
Sean
THK: 6.8
CANNONBALLJennifer
THK: 6.6
RJF: 5.53
Jammin John
THK: 7.2
RJF: 7.21
DEAD MAN'S HANDSarah
THK: 6.2
Josh:
THK: 5.8
LOST HAMMERKim
THK: 5.4
TRJ: 5.6
Billy
THK: 6.2
TRJ: 6.8
GOLDEN CRICKET CAGEJohn
THK 4.8
TRJ: 4.4
RJF: 3.7
Tia
THK: 4.8
TRJ: 4.4
RJF: 5.0
GOLDEN SHIPGabby
THK: 6.2
TRJ: 6.7
Joe
THK: 6.2
TRJ: 6.4
MAP TO THE LOST GOLD MINEJennifer
THK: 7.0
PP319: 8.4
TRJ: 8.4
PPF: 8.2
Damian
THK: 5.6
PP319: 8.13
TRJ: 8.0
PPF: 7.6
STARLea
THK: 5.2
TRJ: 7
PPF: 7
Steve
THK: 7.75
TRJ: 8.30
PPF: 7.75
KEYSLisa
THK: 6
Steve
THK: 7.4
GENGHIS KHANBecca
THK: 5.8
Taylor
THK: 7.2
TROJAN HORSESHOEShawn
THK: 6.8
Lucretia
THK: 5.6
PENDANTRobbie
THK: 6.8
Tina
THK: 5.8
LOST LOGBOOKSRobert
THK: 7
PPF: 7.2
Jessica
THK: 5.2
PPF: 5.2
MOCCASINSMitchell
THK: 6.2
PPF: 6.4
Emily
THK: 5
PPF: 6.25
GREAT SEALShay
THK: 7.2
PPF: 7.4
Nick
THK: 7
PPF: 7.8
LUCKY PIGKristen
THK: 4.4
PPF: 4.6
Scott
THK: 6.25
PPF: 7
LOST FOUNTAIN OF YOUTHJames
THK: 5.4
PPF: 6.6
Jessica
THK: 6
PPF: 5.6
TREASURE MAPTerry Kay
THK: 4.4
PPF: 5.6
Aaron
THK: 5.8
PPF: 5.8
ORACLE BOWLShane
THK: 6.8
PP319: 8.5
PPF: 7.8
Jackie
THK: 4.8
PP319: 6.5
PPF: 5.6
PAINTBRUSH
Katie
THK: 5.8
PPF: 6.4
Roberto
THK: 5
PPF: 5.8
GOLDEN CHAINSJennifer
THK: 6
Justin
THK: 5.4
BELLY BUTTONJennifer
THK: 5.2
PPF: 6.6
Tony
THK: 6.75
PPF: 6.75
STOLEN ARMChristina
THK: 5.8
Evan
THK: 4.4
STONE MARKERKeeli
THK: 5.6
Chris
THK: 5
JOAN OF ARCEddie
THK: 7.2
Mandy
THK: 4.8
MEDALDanny
THK: 7
Tara
THK: 7.4
SHAKA ZULUBobby
THK: 7
Brittany
THK: 6
GOLDEN JAGUARChris
THK: 6.6
PPF: 6.8
Tracy
THK: 6.8
PPF: 7.25
SILVER SADDLE HORNVicki
THK: 5.6
Damon
THK: 5.6
GORDIAN KNOTTim
THK: 7.8
Retina
THK: 6
COBRA STAFFEusinia
THK: 6.4
PP319: 7.9
David
THK: 5.6
PP319: 6.75
BLUE PEARLAlbert
THK: 5.6
Jennifer
THK: 5.6
CODEBOOKGareth
THK: 5.8
RJF: 5.7
Rinette
THK: 4.2
RJF: 5
LOST LARIATColleen
THK: 7
Chris
THK: 5.6
SILK LADDERErica
THK: 6.8
Jeremy
THK: 5.8
HEADDRESSCandace
THK: 7
PPF: 7.4
David
THK: 8
PPF: 8.8
RACCOON COLLARShannon
THK: 7.2
PPF: 6.6
Adam
THK: 6.8
PPF: 6.25
SNAKE BRACELETRobert
THK: 7.4
PPF: 8
Tracy
THK: 5.6
PPF: 6.2
TREASURERon
THK: 5
PPF: 5
Katherine
THK: 6.8
PPF: 7.6
SILVER HORSESHOEPaula
PPF: 6
Matt
PPF: 7.75
SECRET BATTLE PLANJames
PPF: 7
Christina
PPF: 6.2
GOLDEN STALLIONCJ
PPF: 7.2
Kendra
PPF: 6.8
SILVER CANNONBALLJonathan
PPF: 6.6
Amber
PPF: 4.75
WALKING STICKChris
PPF: 6.8
Ryann
PPF: 6.2
LOST LOVE LETTERDerrick
PPF: 7.45
Whitney
PPF: 6.2
DIARYTabitha
PPF: 6.5
Brett
PPF: 7.2
BONE NECKLACELeah
PPF: 6.6
PP319: 7.06
Brandon
PPF: 7.4
PP319: 7.85
MUSH POT HATChris
TRJ: 7.6
Angela
TRJ: 6.6
CRACKED CROWNJosh
TRJ: 6.7
Kerry
TRJ: 6.1
IMPERIAL PURPLE ROBEAshley
TRJ: 6.0
Joshua
TRJ: 6.5
STONE HEADHeather
TRJ: 7.1
Tony
TRJ: 6.5
LUCKY MEDALLIONTy
PPF: 8.65
Jennifer
PPF: 7.25
APPLEWOOD AMULETRobert
PPF: 7
RJF: 7.9
Olivia-Emma
PPF: 8.85
RJF: 9.4
ELECTRIFIED KEYPeter
PPF: 6.6
Michelle
PPF: 7.1
LUCKY PILLOWMissy
PPF: 7.5
RJF: 8.25
John
PPF: 7.0
RJF: 7.5
MISSING EYEN/AN/A
ENORMOUS IRON NOSE RINGN/AN/A
VERY TALL TURBANShane
PP319: 7.5
Jamie
PP319: 7
IVORY ELEPHANTN/AN/A
SACRED RINGBrian
PPF: 6
PP319: 6.45
Gracelyn
PPF: 6.2
PP319: 6.85
PLUMED HEADDRESSJustin
PPF: 7.6
Jessica
PPF: 6
JEWELED NECKLACEKevin
PPF: 7.6
Kelly
PPF: 6.6
LOST LION TAILMarie
PPF: 6.8
PP319: 7.3
Claude
PPF: 4.4
PP319: 5.6
SHRIVELED HANDJanelle
TRJ: 7.1
Bobby
TRJ: 6.4
IRON MASKDanielle
TRJ: 7.6
Justin
TRJ: 7.6
CROWN OF QUEEN NZINGABenjamin
TRJ: 7.5
Renee
TRJ: 6.2
TWO-CORNERED HATBrian
TRJ: 7.4
Carly
TRJ: 7.2
SILK SASHJessie
TRJ: 4.9
Steven
TRJ: 6.2
GOLDEN GOBLETRachelle
TRJ: 5.9
Taylor
TRJ: 6.5
LEOPARD-SKIN CLOAKChandra
TRJ: 7.5
PP319: 7.85
Nick
TRJ: 8.0
PP319: 8.3
SNAKESKIN BOOTSKelly
TRJ: 7.6
PP319: 7.5
Tony
TRJ: 8.3
PP319: 8.5
GOLDEN PEPPERONIChris
TRJ: 7.3
PP319: 7.65
Aqila
TRJ: 6.4
PP319: 7.15
GOLDEN EARRINGAshley
TRJ: 7.8
Shem
TRJ: 8.2
MILK BUCKET Tarrah
TRJ: 7.75
PP319: 8.25
Chris
TRJ: 7.88
PP319: 8.75
MISSING WEATHER MAPSNick
TRJ: 7.80
Kim
TRJ: 6.5
LEVITATING DOG LEASHElizabeth
TRJ: 7.63
Jason
TRJ: 7.3
BROKEN WINGJason
TRJ: 7.3
April
TRJ: 7.5
BONNETMatt
TRJ: 7.9
Ashlie
TRJ: 6.4
PRICELESS PORTRAITJim
TRJ: 6.6
Kristen
TRJ: 7.7
BIFOCAL MONOCLEVeronica
TRJ: 5.5
Thomas
TRJ: 6.3
COMET-EMBROIDERED BATTLE FLAGOlivia
TRJ: 7.4
Jonathan
TRJ: 7.6
WAR FANJeremy
TRJ: 7.1
Elise
TRJ: 6.6
MUCH-HERALDED HELMETTiffani
TRJ: 7.0
PPF: 6.8
Jahmel
TRJ: 7.13
PPF: 7.0
LION-HEADED BRACELETAndrea
TRJ: 7.50
PPF: 7.8
Shaun
TRJ: 7.63
PPF: 8.25
LION-SLASHED JACKETN/AN/A
SECRET MAPN/AN/A
THORNWOOD GAVELN/AN/A
SNOW CONECasey
TRJ: 5.5
RJF: 4.5
Heather
TRJ: 5.7
RJF: 4.5
UPSIDE-DOWN COMPASSSherra
TRJ: 7.2
PP319: 7.95
Derek
TRJ: 6.6
PP319: 7.94
BENT SHAVING PANIrish
TRJ: 5.8
Brian
TRJ: 6.6
MARBLE ARMRESTNoelle
TRJ: 5.4
Pat
TRJ: 5.5
SMASHED PRINTING PLATEJason
TRJ: 5.1
Dana
TRJ: 6.0
MYSTICAL SPELLBOOKJared
TRJ: 7.1
Katie
TRJ: 7.4
USELESS MAPHallie
TRJ: 6.38
Jared
TRJ: 7.8
GOLDEN SPIDER WEBChristine
TRJ: 6.3
Jeremy
TRJ: 5.7
DISCARDED SEALTravis
TRJ: 8.1
RJF: 8.88
Elisa
TRJ: 8.5
RJF: 8.75
MYSTERIOUS MANUSCRIPTKate
TRJ: 7.3
Larry
TRJ: 6.3
DRIED APPLE HALFBrett
TRJ: 6.4
Lauren
TRJ: 5.7
MISSING PORTRAITRachel
TRJ: 6.6
Keith
TRJ: 7.3
IVORY HUNTING HORNYakerra
TRJ: 7.15
Kraig
TRJ: 7.88
ROYAL TORQUELissy
TRJ: 7.1
Nate
TRJ: 8.1
LOST HORNPIPEJessica
TRJ: 8.6
RJF: 9.38
Jarrid
TRJ: 8.3
RJF: 8.4
ENORMOUS FEATHERDavid
TRJ: 7.6
RJF: 8
Karisa
TRJ: 5.3
RJF: 4.63
RED SASHBrandy
TRJ: 7.40
Quentin
TRJ: 8.30
BROKEN TRIDENTKimberly
TRJ: 6.30
Tony
TRJ: 7.50
LILY-CRESTED CROWNKatie
TRJ: 5.90
Judge
TRJ: 7.50
MUSSEL-SHELL ARMORAmanda
TRJ: 7.20
PP319: 7
Gator
TRJ: 9.20
PP319: 9.5
METAL BEARDTJ
PPF: 8.25
PP319: 8.55
Randy
PPF: 7.6
PP319: 8
MUMMIFIED HANDMaggie
PPF: 6.6
Josh
PPF: 7.4
LOST TAJ MAHAL TURBANDean
PPF: 6.4
Chrystine
PPF: 7
MELTED HEADNicholas
PPF: 6.8
Jennifer
PPF: 7.2
PEARL NECKLACERyan
PPF: 7.6
Dawn
PPF: 7.4
BULLET-RIDDLED HANDBAGLeah
PPF: 7.8
Matthew
PPF: 7.6
LOST WHALE BONEBrittany
PPF: 6.2
Damien
PPF: 6.8
DRIED EAR OF CORNEddie
PPF: 7.6
Tess
PPF: 7
JEWELED SCABBARDLacey
PPF: 7.1
Asher
PPF: 6.25
GOOD-LUCK WATCHJaneen
PPF: 6
Jay
PPF: 8.4
RUBY EARRINGAnnie
PPF: 7.8
Kevin
PPF: 7.6
JEWEL-ENCRUSTED EGGKris
PPF: 7.6
RJF: 8.4
Kristin
PPF: 7.6
RJF: 8
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 25, 2014, 10:52:02 PM
Also, Purple Parrot episodes like Sacred Ring, Oracle Bowl, Leopard Skin Cloak, etc. have been ranked by multiple people as well. So that can be added to your overall list as well. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 25, 2014, 11:17:23 PM
I laid out the episode template for the player rankings. ;) The list is extraordinarily incomplete right now, but I am going to fill it in as the weeks progress. I will also try to make it more visually pleasing instead of having all of the players and their names clumped into one post. I also used the artifact name for each episode. Hopefully this is not too confusing because I know sometimes we use the other name for an episode when talking about it. ;) (Like no one ever refers to "Roland" as "Ivory Hunting Horn".)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 25, 2014, 11:21:51 PM
Looks good to me. ;) The list will look better once we update it more. This is obviously just a rough draft. It will probably be a long time before every single episode is ranked and filled out. :lol:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 25, 2014, 11:33:40 PM
Thanks, I hope the list looks much better once it is updated and color coded better. Hopefully the episode names aren't too confusing since I used all of the artifact names for them. But other than that, the list will look better once the players are added.  :mrred:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 27, 2014, 12:11:54 AM
I updated my list for most of the Season 1 episodes. The list may look like an eyesore right now, but I promise I will find a way to make it look better. I stopped at Stone Marker and I will finish with the rest of Season 1 later. Hopefully I got everyone's ranking for each episode. Let me know if I missed someone. ;)

Also, I know I am going to do Sultan Saladin next now. Why? Because THK has Lea with an overall score of 5.2. Meanwhile, Lisa has an overall score of 6. -_- Tell me how does that make sense? A strong temple player all day over a player who really didn't belong in the temple in the first place. Oh yeah, let's give Lea the same temple score as Gabby and Joe who only went through 4 rooms.  :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 27, 2014, 12:56:53 AM
Seriously, how is it even remotely possible that Lea gets an overall score of 5.2, yet Joe, Gabby, and even Bobby from Shaka Zulu rank higher than her? Oh that's right, because Lea didn't move fast supposedly and "took a direct path." I can't wait until you rank Lea, I might even rank her as well, to see if our rankings stack up.

Oh, and do you mind if I continue to update the list for you? ;) Especially with runs like Leopard Skin Cloak and Sultan Suleiman, who have been ranked by multiple people. If you don't want me to update it though, then I'll leave it alone.

EDIT: Okay, I updated your list up until Anne Bonny. Feel free to change it or erase it if you feel like the update is out of place.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 27, 2014, 01:44:37 PM
As a a matter of fact, thanks for updating the list for me.  :mrred: I was going to finish Season 1 last night, but fell asleep early. I am going to work on Season 2 later also. So far, it looks like most of us are getting near the same score as another user. I think once I complete the list for every episode, I will make a table out of it so it will be easier to see. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 27, 2014, 03:35:10 PM
Same score as another user? What do you mean by that? Sorry I'm slow. :lol:

And a table would be a great idea. It would make the table easier to read. As for who I'm gonna rank next, I think I'm definitely gonna rank Sultan Saladin next, after you rank them. And I'll be extra generous to Lea too, at least I'll try to be. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 27, 2014, 04:57:04 PM
I updated my list for most of the Season 1 episodes. The list may look like an eyesore right now, but I promise I will find a way to make it look better. I stopped at Stone Marker and I will finish with the rest of Season 1 later. Hopefully I got everyone's ranking for each episode. Let me know if I missed someone. ;)

Also, I know I am going to do Sultan Saladin next now. Why? Because THK has Lea with an overall score of 5.2. Meanwhile, Lisa has an overall score of 6. -_- Tell me how does that make sense? A strong temple player all day over a player who really didn't belong in the temple in the first place. Oh yeah, let's give Lea the same temple score as Gabby and Joe who only went through 4 rooms.  :roll:
And this is why I add weight to later rounds.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 27, 2014, 06:05:46 PM
I don't really rank based on weight, but I'm a lot more generous to most players. Even if they do supposedly make a bunch of mistakes.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 28, 2014, 01:03:25 AM
I don't try to weight the player rankings either. I am kind of generous in my rankings too, but that is because I don't go around and nitpick with every contestant over every little flaw. I mean why exactly would I give Damian from Lost Gold Mine a really low score in the Steps? Sure, he didn't answer any of the questions. But that doesn't mean I am going to make him look bad and give him a 1. Same with his temple score. He may have only lasted 3 rooms, but he was super fast and knew what he was doing. It's not like he knew where his temple guards were.

THK was way too inconsistent in his rankings. He gave Jennifer a 6 in the temple, and also gave the same score for each of the Golden Ship kids. How does that make sense? I don't blame Gabby and Joe for the outcome of that run, but they lasted long enough to show us that they were slow. Same with Steve from Alhambra and Robbie from Kamehameha. Steve gets a 10 in the temple and he only lasts 4 rooms, and Robbie covers the same amount of rooms and gets an 8. Yeah that totally makes sense. We won't even mention Bobby's temple score in Shaka Zulu...  :?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 28, 2014, 01:20:28 AM
Steve didn't actually last four rooms, Robbie did. ;) But yeah, Steve's temple score was way too generous. Though Steve's artifact was very far into the temple, being in the Dungeon. And Robbie's artifact was closer in the Spider's Lair. So I could kind of see where he was coming from there.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 28, 2014, 11:41:35 PM
Time for another team ranking, and this time I did the "Sultan Saladin" teams.  :mrsilver: I used the same format as I did in Chandragupta, so hopefully it won't be too confusing. ;)

THE Star of Sultan Saladin


Lea  
 :snakes2:  

Steve  
:snakes2:

Moat7Moat8
Steps of Knowledge8Steps of Knowledge9
Individual Game5Individual Game8
Team Game7Team Game8
Temple Run8Temple RunN/A
Overall Score:7.00Overall Score:8.30


Leslie  
 :jaguars2:  

Tom  
:jaguars2:

Moat7.5Moat8
Steps of Knowledge8Steps of Knowledge8
Individual Game6Individual Game6.5
Team Game7Team Game7
Overall Score:7.13Overall Score:7.38

NOTES:
This episode reminds me a lot of "Chandragupta". It is a great episode and win overlooked due to being a little on the forgettable side. But it is a solid episode and I can't find anything wrong with it. Judging from the rankings, both teams were solid all day. I was not trying to be generous to any of these teams, they just happened to finish with good scores. The moat was pretty quick in this episode, and neither team really struggled that much. I gave Lea a slightly lower score because she was a little slower than the Red Jaguars. The Steps of Knowledge was also all about the Red Jaguars and Silver Snakes. I enjoyed the teamwork between Lea and Steve in this round. Steve whispered all three answers to Lea, and they swept the Steps of Knowledge for the second spot.  :mrsilver:

The temple games featured in this episode featured close competition between the Red Jaguars and Silver Snakes. In the first temple game, Steve was a monster at climbing the wall. He almost got all 6 bricks down before time was up. Tom on the other hand was sloppy and kept dropping his bricks and climbing down pretty inefficiently. The second temple game was tough for both female players. Both Lea and Leslie struggled really bad to reach the soldiers at the top. It wasn't until there were 10 seconds left where Leslie grabbed the only one during the whole game and won it 1-0. While the score was kind of sad, you can't blame the girls for how this one turned out. It almost ended in a scoreless tie like in "Genghis Khan". The last temple game was hard to evaluate for Leslie and Lea because all they had to do was throw their balls at their partners. I gave them a decent score because most of the time they were accurate. Steve earned a higher score than Tom because he did a better job "leaning in" to collect the balls. On a side note, Kirk miscounted the number of balls the Silver Snakes collected. They actually collected 12 balls, not 11. Luckily, it didn't screw them over. :?

Just like I did for Andrea, I gave Lea a good score in the temple. For an early Season 1 runner, Lea did a solid job in the temple. She rarely hesitated and was always trying for the shortest route possible. Unlike most Season 1 contestants who went into any room where the door opened. Even with her room objectives being a little easy, she still had a long path and tried using shortcuts. Unlike other members, I don't scrutinize her for the direct path or easy layout. Some fans like getting off to "Geronimo" or "Shaka Zulu", but "Sultan Saladin" is much better than those runs. I am not sure why people find those solo victories amazing. I think that the 8 score for Lea is justified.  :mrsilver:

Overall, this was a solid episode for Season 1 standards. As you can tell, all of the players ranked higher than a 7. I am not sure what episode THK was ranking when he ranked these players, but they were strong all day! Especially Lea having such a low score overall. She was the "Star" of this episode along with her partner Steve. Steve ranked the highest out of anyone and he didn't enter the temple. I love this episode a lot and it reminds me of Chandragupta in many ways. But unlike Chandragupta, this one sort of gets unnecessary criticism. Plus, this episode was part of the hilarious "Legends Redub".
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 29, 2014, 12:39:43 AM
Yay, you've posted the rankings! :mrsilver: And Sultan Saladin is an excellent Season 1 episode. What a coincidence I just watched this episode today too. All four players were great, especially Steve. Imagine what he would've been like in the temple. :shock: I also like how you pointed out the awesome teamwork between Steve and Lea on the Steps. Yet somehow Lea got a "2" for NOT actually literally ringing in? Steve rang in, Lea answered the questions, even one on her own without Steve's help. I have no idea what show THK was watching here. :? And the temple run was solid. While Lea did hesitate a little in the Wall Climb, she never got turned around again and did an great job in the temple. I have no complaints about her whatsoever, and I'm glad you ranked her, and all the other players well to.

Great rankings overall. ;) I'm also gonna rank Sultan Saladin. I'll probably post my rankings of them either later tonight or tomorrow. It'll be interesting to see how both our rankings compare.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 30, 2014, 12:00:37 AM
And without further ado, here are my rankings of Sultan Saladin. :mrsilver:

THE STAR OF SULTAN SALADIN

Lea:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7

Steve:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 9
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 7.75

Leslie:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7
Overall: 6.75

Tom:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7

NOTES:

This was a great episode, especially for Season 1 standards. :mrsilver: The moat was very quick, where none of the four players here had too much trouble. The Steps of Knowledge was a double sweep between the Red Jaguars and Silver Snakes, in which both teams were very smart. I especially liked Lea and Steve's teamwork here, where Steve rang in and whispered the questions, and Lea said them out loud. In fact, Lea even got a question on her own even without Steve's help. Remind me again how she got a "2" for the steps for not actually literally ringing in herself? The temple games were a solid match too. Both Steve and Tom moved like lightning in their temple game. The only problem was Tom's sloppiness of dropping his bricks and not making it into the basket. But both players gave it forth the great effort and still ranked well there. On the other hand, both Lea and Leslie struggled immensely in their temple game. I feel like giving them a "5" was fair enough since they both tried to grab one of the soldiers from atop of the soapy ramp. But let's face it, traversing that ramp is never an easy feat. And unlike in Genghis Khan, it wasn't a scoreless tie with Leslie beating Lea 1-0. So it's not like the game was a total wash out. Not much to say about the team game, except Lea and Steve ended up beating Leslie and Tom 11-10, and ended up going to the temple! And the temple run itself was great. So what if Lea tried for a direct path? That so called flawed plan of hers WORKED in her favor, as you can clearly see a temple guard squatting down in the Cave as Lea exits the temple. And the guard was so clearly cheering her on too. :lol: Aside from minor stalling in the Wall Climb, Lea never got turned around again, and did a solid job in the temple. She moved fast, and knew what to do in every room. And that helped her score the first ever solo victory with 27 seconds left on the clock. :mrsilver: Once the temple run was over, Kirk kept on interviewing her, and asking her silly and irrelevant questions like "Are you gonna think of the temple guards while you're on vacation?" Way to ramble on and on, Kirk. :roll: Temple runs don't get any better than this.

And there's my rankings on Lea. As you can see, she ranked WAY better than when THK ranked her. I hope my rankings of her, (and everyone else for that matter), was generous and fair enough. Feel free to give me your feedback. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 30, 2014, 01:42:47 AM
Sultan Saladin is a strong episode that featured two strong teams. Lea finished with the exact same as I came up from her. I still don't understand THK's reasoning behind giving Lea a "2" in the Steps.  :? She answered all 3 questions correctly, even if Steve gave her the answers to tell Kirk. I actually like the team effort by the Silver Snakes and thought it was clever. My favorite part is that he gave the Silver Snakes boy in "The Trojan Horseshoe" a "3" in the Steps... and that same player got 3 questions wrong. How does this make sense again? :roll: The temple games were great too. Tom, the Red Jaguars boy, was so awkward in this episode. When he is talking to Kirk and giving his answers in the Steps, he always make this weird face. :lol: The only weak part about the temple games was Lea and Leslie's temple game where the game almost ended in a 0-0 tie. Lea started off well in that game first, but she fell down and couldn't make it back up. Leslie wasn't much better herself and got the last soldier with like 8 seconds left. This temple game always seems to be hard anyways. Unless you are Danny and Tara. :P

The temple run is a classic and it is the only solo run I like in Season 1. I think an 8 was great because Lea was smart for a Season 1 contestant. I really don't understand the direct path jabs that she gets. She may have tried for a direct path, but she was from Season 1 AND she avoided a temple guard. That is a plus in my book. Plus, she was always trying for shortcuts too. Other than the small hesitation in the Wall Climb, she did great in the temple and scored a win with almost 30 seconds left. I personally love the long post temple run interview too. I wish this happened more often instead of Kirk cutting to the credits. Poor Lea looked like she didn't want to hear anything Kirk said. :lol:

Overall, Sultan Saladin is a solid episode and one of my favorite episodes from Season 1 and on the show. One thing you and I both have in common with our rankings was that both the Red Jaguars and Silver Snakes were a good team. I am glad Lea ranked high for you also because she totally deserves it. I am not sure in what lifetime where THK thought that a 5.4 was fitting for Lea. Especially have her ranked lower than LISA. And speaking of Lisa, I am thinking about ranking Alhambra next. I really want to see if Lisa and Steve are as great as they are cracked up to be.  :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 30, 2014, 01:47:46 AM
The only difference between Lea and Silver Snake boy from Trojan Horseshoe is that the latter player was an idiot on the Steps. Now THAT guy is someone who totally deserves to rank low on the steps. :P Funny thing is, me and THK have totally different scores for Lea, but we completely agreed with Steve's score, right down to a T. Same with Tom, the Red Jaguar boy. Weird how that turns out. :shock: In fact, you and I both ranked Lea exactly the same in every round. And I swear I didn't copy you either. :lol:

And good luck ranking Steve and Lisa. You're totally on your own for that one, as I don't have Alhambra ranked. But I'm probably gonna rank John Sutter next. I promised I'd have that one posted, so I might as well post it. Unless you have any requests? ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 30, 2014, 01:52:32 AM
Luckily, I know most of Alhambra by heart. So it won't be too painful to go through that episode again. I just need to rewatch the Steps of Knowledge to rank the players. I don't think I will be giving Steve a 10 in the temple. While he cleared his path at a amazing speed, the hit the actuator rooms were really generous to him also. I think a 10 is for a player that goes beyond expectations.

You should definitely do Lost Gold Mine next too. I have a feeling your rankings for Jennifer and Damian will be closer to mine and PP319's.  :mrblue: This is an episode that never gets old rewatching either. This episode is basically Blue Barracuda Pwnage.

And since you asked for requests, why not rank Golden Cricket Cage? Seriously, it will be interesting to see how you rank John and Tia. And the Purple Parrots in that episode too. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 30, 2014, 01:56:58 AM
Just one problem: I don't have Cricket Cage ranked either. The rankings I do have of it are the ones I cut and pasted from you. So much for your diabolical plan trying to stick me with downright atrocious episodes. ;) Cricket Cage is one episode I vowed never to watch again. O_O

While we're on the subject of Purple Parrots, maybe I'll rank a Purple Parrot episode somewhere down the road too. I already have Sultan Suleiman, Lost Lion Tail, and Oracle Bowl ranked. So no more weak teams for me. I'm definitely gonna rank a stronger team here. I think I'll rank Leopard Skin Cloak and/or Freydis after I rank John Sutter. Those players should score pretty well, and both you and PP319 have ranked them as well. So I'd like to see how my rankings stack up compared to you guys. ;) :mrpurple:

EDIT: And I updated your list again to include our rankings for Sultan Saladin. I figured it was in order since we have now both ranked that episode. :P
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on March 30, 2014, 03:48:20 AM
You know, you don't have to use my scores from the method I use. You can use the ones using the normal method. Also, you'll need to update the list with my other scores, too. (Discarded Seal, Jewel-Encrusted Egg, Applewood Amulet)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 30, 2014, 03:47:29 PM
Yeah, I'll get to that update. Also, the Snow Cone episode needs to be updated as well, since multiple people have also ranked that episode.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 30, 2014, 09:12:19 PM
I went ahead and color coded the rest of the episodes on the list of episodes with everyone's score. Now that all we need to do is add the other rankings for Season 2 and Season 3. That shouldn't be too bad because most of the episodes only had one person ranking them. And some episodes didn't have any rankings yet. Once we are done compiling all of the rankings, then I will make a table out of the list to make it much more easier to look at. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 30, 2014, 09:20:37 PM
Do you mind if I change the coloring of purple? No offense, but I like dark purple better.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 30, 2014, 09:24:57 PM
I don't mind. ;) It is probably more fitting for the Parrots actual shirts than the colors I used. I only used the light colors due to the forum background. Just like how Blue is kind of light also.  :mrblue:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on March 30, 2014, 09:34:54 PM
Done. :mrpurple: I figured I'd change the colors to dark purple since everyone who has ranked Purple Parrot players in the past, used that same coloring. Good thing I only had to change around 11 episode titles. :lol:

Oh, and here's a complete list of players/episodes I want to rank next:
Galileo
John Sutter
Leopard Skin Cloak (Might rank the whole filming day. Not sure on that yet though).
Freydis
Catherine the Great (And that whole filming day as well).

I'm not sure when exactly I'm gonna rank them, but those are among the episodes I want to rank next.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 02, 2014, 10:59:10 PM
You know, I am thinking of watching Galileo tonight and ranking those teams. I think the THK's rankings for the Silver Snakes were good, but I feel that Jammin John should be ranking higher. That episode was totally about him and a 7.20 seems a tad bit low. Plus, I love rewatching this episode for the pepperoni line and the ending.  :mrsilver:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 02, 2014, 11:03:52 PM
Yeah, I want to rank Jammin' Jon as well. Gotta love that episode, and the classic/early Season 1 quirkiness. :mrsilver: I can't wait until you rank him either. I'm sure he'll rank pretty high for you. I'm pretty sure in my ranking of him, Jammin' Jon ranks somewhere in the 7 range, and Jennifer ranks in the 6 range. I'm not sure though, I'd have to check.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 02, 2014, 11:17:33 PM
Yeah, that is how I see them ranking too. I know that I will be a little generous since this was the first production day ever on the show. I don't expect anything disappointing to come out of the rankings.  :mrsilver:

I also want to rank a disappointing team on the show too. Maybe I will do Alhambra or Bifocal Monocle to see how bad these players rank.  :oops:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 02, 2014, 11:21:32 PM
Didn't you already rank Bifocal Monocle though? I remember because you gave the Red Jaguar boy a "1" for his temple game. :oops: And yeah, you definitely can't go wrong with Galileo. And it was one of the first production days of the show too, so we can definitely expect a lot of quirkiness. Maybe you could rank Blackbeard too? I don't have that one ranked, but it would be interesting to see how badly Sabrina in particular ranks. :roll: :lol:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 03, 2014, 11:39:22 PM
And I updated the list to include the rankings up until Lucky Pillow. Feel free to tell me if I missed anyone's rankings, or if you want to erase anything. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 04, 2014, 12:56:05 AM
I need to go back and watch Cracked Crown and Stone Head again. There is no way that Kerry and Tony should have those high rankings. :o Neither player was that great in their earlier rounds. And they sucked ass in the temple. I need to check my rankings again to see how Kerry ended up with a 6.1. Other than that, thanks for the list update. ;) I am surprised no one ranked Butch Cassidy's production day yet. That is an episode I don't want to touch anyways.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 04, 2014, 01:00:27 AM
I might take on Silver Horseshoe's whole filming day, since it's the only Season 2 filming day besides Tall Turban that hasn't been ranked yet. Come to think of it, I still never ranked the last filming day of Season 3 yet. And that's the only Season 3 day that hasn't been ranked yet I believe. :o We should also make a list of who ranked what filming day. I remember you ranked the first half of Season 3, and I covered the second half. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 04, 2014, 01:07:37 AM
I could've sworn I ranked the Empress Eugenie/Benzibab day. :o I need to go through my old files because I totally remember Janeen having a low score and not being lenient with Lacey and Asher with their tiebreaker. They must've been lost in the database crash for sure. Same with the Atocha/Annie Taylor filming day too. >_<

Here are production days I do remember ranking:
- Golden Cricket Cage/Golden Ship day
- Mush Pot Had/Stone Head day
- Two-Cornered Hat/Iron Mask day
- Silk Sash/Annie Oakley day
- Henry Morgan/Freydis day
- Nostradamus/Polynesian Girl day
- Sir Gawain/William the Conqueror day
- Imperial Wizard/Useless Map day
- Mt. Kilimanjaro/Marble Armrest day (Worst production day ever -_-)
- Queen Boadicea/Pirate Captain day
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 04, 2014, 01:16:10 AM
You also ranked Red Sash's day too. And I really don't remember you ranking the last filming day. Maybe it was lost in the database crash after all. Do you mind if I take the final filming day? I really want to take that one.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 04, 2014, 02:40:43 AM
Alright, here's a chart of who has ranked what production day:

Production DayMember
BLACKBEARD:THK, RJF*
JOHN HENRY:THK, TRJ,
PP319*, PPF*,
RJF*
SULTAN SALADIN:THK, TRJ*,
PPF*
LOST LOGBOOKS:THK, PPF
PONCE DE LEON:THK, PPF,
PP319*
GOLDEN CHAINS:THK, PPF*
SIR EDMUND HILARY:THK, PPF*
COBRA STAFF:THK, PP319*,
RJF*
LAWRENCE OF ARABIA:THK, PPF
SILVER HORSESHOE:PPF
WALKING STICK:PPF, PP319*
MUSH POT HAT:TRJ
LUCKY MEDALLION:PPF, RJF*
MISSING EYE:PP319*,
Not ranked fully yet
SACRED RING:PPF, PP319*
SHRIVELED HAND:TRJ
SILK SASH:TRJ, PP319*
GOLDEN PEPPERONI:TRJ, PP319*
LEVITATING DOG LEASH:TRJ
BIFOCAL MONOCLE:TRJ, PPF*
LION-HEADED BRACELET:TRJ*, PPF*,
Not ranked fully yet
SNOW CONE:TRJ, PP319*,
RJF*
SMASHED PRINTING PLATE:TRJ
DISCARDED SEAL:TRJ, RJF*
IVORY HUNTING HORN:TRJ, RJF*
RED SASH:TRJ, PP319*
METAL BEARD:PPF, PP319*
GWALIOR:PPF
SFORZA:PPF, RJF*

* = Member ranked only certain episodes/players

Since this is now a table (just like the other list), I figure I might list who has ranked what. And I also gave credits (hence the stars) to those who have ranked at least one episode from whatever production day. By the looks of this list, TRJ has covered most of Season 2, and the whole first half of Season 3. And I've covered some of Season 1, a little bit of Season 2, and last portion of Season 3. Out of that list, only Tall Turban and Chandragupta's filming days haven't been ranked fully. This is how the chart looks so far, and I'll update as more rankings come. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 04, 2014, 06:20:08 PM
Good idea for a list. It is a good way for other people to rank teams that have little to no rankings on them. We really should link your post above and the other post with all the episodes and their teams to the main post like we did in the "Episode Ranking System" topic. ;) To make it easier to navigate back to those pages for references. I really need to post my rankings for Missing Eye and Enormous Iron Nose Ring too. Those ones are definitely done. Also, I don't mind if you take the Jeweled Scabbard production day either. It will be definitely a treat for you to rank. :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrsilver:  :mrred:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 04, 2014, 07:00:36 PM
Alright, both lists have been added to the OP. In the same style as the separate rankings in the episode ranking thread. Check it out. ;)

And yeah, I've been promising to rank Sforza's filming day for months now. It's about damn time that I post them. :lol: I can't wait until you post your rankings for Missing Eye and Enormous Iron Nose Ring too. Both those teams should rank pretty high. :mrsilver: :mrsilver:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 04, 2014, 07:46:03 PM
I'm probably gonna do The Ivory Hunting Horn day. And I'm dreading a certain episode (I already know that Karisa didn't do squat in the Steps Of Knowledge and Tiebreaker, so her score is gonna be super low)

Also PPF, update the list using the normal scores, not my personal scores. Use the same type of system for all scores.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 04, 2014, 08:15:40 PM
THE ENORMOUS FEATHER OF THE ME LINH

David
Moat: 7
Steps Of Knowledge: 7.5
Individual: 8
Team: N/A (He was in the bag. Karisa did all the work, so you can put all blame on her for losing the last game)
Tiebreaker: +1
Pre-Temple (Normal Scoring): 7.67
Pre-Temple (My Scoring): 7.95
Temple: 8.5
Overall (Normal Scoring): 8
Overall (My Scoring): 8.23

Karisa
Moat: 6
Steps Of Knowledge: N/A (Can I give her a 0, please?)
Individual: 6.5
Team: 4
Pre-Temple (Normal Scoring): 5.5
Pre-Temple (My Scoring): 5.36
Temple: 2
Overall (Normal Scoring): 4.63 (This is way too kind. Let's see how different my weighted score is)
Overall (My Scoring): 3.81 (I still think this is way too kind)

Joey
Moat: 7.5
Steps Of Knowledge: 8.5
Individual: 7
Team: 7
Overall (Normal Scoring): 7.5
Overall (My Scoring): 7.32

Molly
Moat: 9
Steps Of Knowledge: 7
Individual: 5
Team: N/A (She was in the bag)
Overall (Normal Scoring): 7
Overall (My Scoring): 6.27

I'll update with the scores from my own system later.

Comments: Well, well, well. It looks like a certain girl by the name of Karisa ruined this entire episode. I mean, look at the scores of everyone else. It is embarrassing for a Season 3 contestant to be this low. It's like "Oh, let's put the best guy for this episode with the worst girl of this episode.". How in the heck did she pass the tryouts???
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 04, 2014, 09:26:01 PM
Enormous Feather was a terrible episode. You're totally right that Karisa never should've made it on the show, much less make it to the temple. David carried the team throughout the episode. And the temple run just infuriates me. This would've been an amazing win if Karisa weren't such a slowpoke. I've said it once, and I'll say it again: I was rooting for the Parrots in the temple games. :(

Good luck with the rest of the filming day. Thankfully for you, the rest of the episodes that day are great. ;)

EDIT: Fixed the list using your normal scores. And above list I made has been updated as well.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 04, 2014, 09:44:22 PM
The Roland production day is indeed great. We get a fun episode where Kirk and Olmec can't contain themselves, a strong bottom of the central shaft run, and one of the "best teams we have ever seen".  :mrgreen: But then Enormous Feather ruins the whole thing. :roll: How Karisa even got to the temple was a mystery. It was because her team barely scraped by to do it. It was just a below average episode all day too. I did like the "Really really fast" line in the Steps. :lol: The temple games sucked though. Karisa was dangling from the ceiling during the upside-down temple game for like 15 seconds. :roll: She sucked in the team game also. In the end, the Orange Iguanas went to the temple with 1 Pendant after winning the tiebreaker. David did great in the temple, but Karisa was horrible as hell. She moved freakin slow and got lost in the Quicksand Bog of all places. Kirk and David had enough of her shit too and you can tell both were pissed. She looked smug a hell at the end of her run too. :roll: What a pathetic performance and this is one of the most infuriating losses ever. The only worst chokejob was Kim from Charles Lindbergh. :roll: Here are my rankings for the Enormous Feather episode:

David: 7.6
Karisa: 5.3
Molly: 7.0
Joey: 7.75

Good rankings too. ;) Good idea on doing Enormous Feather first too, as that episode was clearly the weakest link that day. The Purple Parrots should've gone to the temple in that episode. Next up is Pirate Captain too, which shares the exact same temple sequence as Enormous Feather I believe. But a complete opposite episode from this disaster.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 04, 2014, 09:45:23 PM
I'm gonna post my episode rankings of Sforza right now. Let me pull them up. Want to see them? ;)

And TRJ, when you comment on my rankings, can you please not go overboard with the :P smiley? It kind of makes me feel like you're mocking my rankings, and I don't know I find it a little annoying. Not to be rude or anything, just a heads up.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 04, 2014, 09:51:08 PM
Okay, I will be careful not to use that smiley. ;) I can definitely assure you that I am not ever trying to mock your rankings at all. I just like to go overboard with smileys in my comments. Please don't ever take it as a way of mocking you either. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 04, 2014, 10:43:42 PM
And at long last, here are my rankings of the Sforza/Catherine the Great filming day. :mrgreen:

THE JEWELED SCABBARD OF SFORZA

Lacey:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7.1

Asher:
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 5
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 6.25

Rebecca:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.25

RC:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6

NOTES:

This was a great episode from beginning to end. In the moat, Asher kind of struggled to get across. I'd say it took him at least a good three tries to get across. So thus, the Green Monkeys came in last for the moat. But they definitely redeemed themselves on the Steps of Knowledge thanks to Lacey. She got all three questions right before Olmec even revealed the choices. Rebecca of the Blue Barracudas was equally as smart as well. Also, the Steps of Knowledge music sounded slower than usual. Mostly due to the clock sound effect not playing. This also happened in Chandragupta. The temple games were a close competition between the Blue Barracudas and the Green Monkeys. Lacey sort of struggled in her game, while Rebecca excelled. On the flip side, Asher did great in his game while RC was just average. I was definitely lenient to both teams in the team game. Seriously, how is anyone expected to catch a fast moving cannonball? Couldn't they have just used rocks like they usually do for that type of game? This is why I always hated that type of game. It always seemed like it gave the teams too much trouble. Needless to say, the game ended in a scoreless tie, and out came the tiebreaker. And yes I gave both Lacey and Asher credit for getting the question right. They totally gave a sketchy answer, but nonetheless, they earned themselves a trip to the temple! And the temple run was great. The layout was a little on the easy side, but both Lacey and Asher were did a solid job, and totally deserved to win. And you gotta love it when Lacey chops her feet in excitement once Asher crosses the gates. :lol: Also, those Blue Barracudas look so much alike. They have to be boy/girl twins. :shock: Same hair, same eyes, same facial expressions, etc. Especially with similar sounding names like Rebecca and RC. Overall, great episode, and great enthusiasm by both players all around.

THE GOOD-LUCK WATCH OF EMPRESS EUGENIE

Janeen:
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 5
Overall: 6

Jay:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 10
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 8.4

Courtney:
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 4
Team Game: 5
Overall: 5

Nate:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.75

NOTES:

Wow, talk about your lop sided scores. Jay is clearly the star of the show here. The rest of the players were average to just plain bad. With a whopping 8.4 average, he's clearly one of the highest players ever ranked. As for the episode itself, I found it to be very exciting. Just like in Sforza, the Green Monkeys also finished last in the moat in this episode too. Janeen especially sucked at the moat. I swear, it was like all the other three teams were already across except for her. This moat is so poorly edited we don't even see Jay cross. From what little I did see, he seemed pretty fast getting across. I guess this moat gave the teams here problems? Also, just look at the nasty fall the Orange Iguana girl took during the moat. I sincerely hope she wasn't hurt. :shock: Both male players answered on the questions on the Steps of Knowledge, so not much to note there. The temple games were a tad one sided, but it was still an exciting round. Courtney SUCKED at the bucking horse game. She simply could not hang on to that horse if her life depended on it. Janeen did a good job hanging on though, and she rarely fell off too. Jay did great in the rotating Olmec wheel game, while Nate was just average. Jay was a BEAST in the team game. He caught every single ball thrown to him, and didn't miss once. That's amazing. It was the same game used in Sforza, only the players here didn't seem to struggle as much, AND they used cannonballs again. Maybe it was because the kids were older here, and thus had no trouble catching the balls? Nonetheless, the Green Monkeys shut out the Purple Parrots, and earned their way to the temple! The temple run was exciting too, though Janeen was way too hesitant. I know giving her a 5 seems to generous, but she seemed to know what to do for the most part. She just moved much, much too slowly. Even Jay was shouting at her to move faster. Jay was fantastic though. He blazed through every room like three minutes was not enough time to screw around. This team definitely would've won if it weren't for Janeen, or that slight production error in the Jester's Court. Still a good episode nonetheless.

THE RUBY EARRING OF BENZIBAB

Annie:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7.8

Kevin:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 9
Overall: 7.6

Paula:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 3
Overall: 6

Jason:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.75

NOTES:

While I didn't find this episode to be as exciting as the previous two, it was still a solid episode. The players here did an okay job crossing the moat, though I loved the back flip Annie did while getting across. I think that was her? Annie was also exceptionally smart during the Steps of Knowledge. Just like Lacey, she answered all of Olmec's answers before the choices were revealed. The Green Monkeys were also pretty smart during the Steps too. Not much to note about the temple games, except Paula sucked in the team game. That girl just could not knock down a soldier. She had a whole 60 seconds to do so, and she just.... couldn't do it. Naturally, the Silver Snakes were much more dominant, and beat the Green Monkeys 2-0.5 in the temple games! I also loved how Kevin slaps Kirk's said, and he says in such a dead pan voice "Ouch, that hurt." Seriously, it was hilarious. :lol: And the temple run was great too, even though I find this run a tad overrated. Annie did great in the temple for what little time she was in there, but Kevin was the star of the show here. To me, I could not give him less than a 9. He BLAZED through the whole temple, even to the point where the camera crew could barely keep up with him. He escaped from the temple with a whopping 1:02 left on the clock, making this the quickest team victory ever. You can't really beat that. While I'm not a particular fan of this temple run, Annie and Kevin definitely earned it.

THE JEWEL-ENCRUSTED EGG OF CATHERINE THE GREAT

Kris:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7.6

Kristin:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 9
Overall: 7.6

Rachel:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.75

Bryan:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.75

NOTES:

And, we save the best for last! :mrred: This was an excellent episode in every aspect. The moat was a little long though, where just like in Good Luck Watch, it seemed like the players here had a harder time than usual. But both the Red Jaguars and the Orange Iguanas didn't seem to have a problem crossing. The Orange Iguanas were very smart during the Steps of Knowledge. They swept through the first three questions, with the Red Jaguars closely following behind them, equally as smart. The temple games featured to me, one of the best sequences I have ever seen on the show. Both Kristin and Rachel did an okay job with their game. Though they seemed to struggle getting all the right matches from underneath their peepholes. But, they gave it forth the great effort and tied their game. Kris did great in his temple game, involving the hamster wheel. He finished the game before time was even up! And both teams did a solid job in the team game as well. Though Rachel did struggle knocking down some of her soldiers. With a rare 2-1.5 pendant score, the Red Jaguars go to the temple! And the temple run was amazing. Just like with Benzibab, Kris did an excellent job in what little time he was in the temple in, and Kristin was the star of the show. To me, giving her less than a 9 would be a serious crime. The artifact was picked up with 46 left on the clock, and Kristin escaped with 24 seconds to spare! Excellent job, and excellent temple run all around. And I loved the camerawork throughout the episode too. Especially the camera entering the temple, and Kirk's head first dive into the Pit. What a great way to close out this show.

Overall, this was an excellent production day. I would even go as far as saying this was THE best filming day on the entire show. The Applewood Amulet/Lucky Pillow day comes in at a close second. You couldn't ask for a better way to wrap up the show. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrsilver: :mrred:

Catherine the Great >>>> Sforza >>>>>>> Benzibab >>>>>>>> Good Luck Watch
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 04, 2014, 11:31:31 PM
Good choice on ranking this production day. It is truly the best production day on the show.  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrsilver:  :mrred:

Sforza was a good episode, but this is the weakest episode this day for me. This also looks like the weakest set of players this day also according to your rankings. One of the shining moments of this episode was Lacey's dominance in the Steps of Knowledge. It shows that she was very attentive. The Green Monkeys were kind of weak during the temple games too. I think your rankings perfectly describe how they kind of scraped by. The team game was really pathetic, but I don't blame the contestants at all for this. The kickballs were tiny and hard to catch over the big boulders. In the end, we come down to our final tiebreaker ever. To be honest, this tiebreaker sort of bothers me. Mostly because the producers were very lenient in Lacey's answer. If this was on any other production day, she might've not gotten away with it. Oh well, the Blue Barracudas needed to lose a tiebreaker anyways. :lol: As for the temple run, it was a good effort and the Green Monkeys were a good team. The layout was definitely a gift to them though. But at the same time, the central shaft was not easy to complete either. I did like the unusual temple guard layout where both guards were in both entrance rooms. A pretty good win, although I can't say that it is exactly one of my favorite wins.

Good-Luck Watch was a great episode even if the team really should've won. The Green Monkeys looked bad at the moat in this episode. Well, mostly Janeen looked bad. She struggled to get across. Jay really had to pick up the pace across the moat to get his team to the next round. Jay was definitely the star of this episode. The temple games were very one-sided also. The Green Monkeys dominated the temple games. I remember Courtney looking bad in the "bucking horse" game. She fell off every 5 seconds after getting on her horse. -_- And then we had the team game just like in Sforza except that the players actually score. :lol: The Purple Parrots were no match-up for Jay and Janeen in this episode though. The temple run was very exciting and comical. :lol: Janeen was waaaaaaaaaaay too slow and hesitant to be first. It was almost like she was afraid to complete all her objectives. Jay was getting tired of her and I was almost yelling at Janeen through my screen. Luckily, Jay really saved this run from being a disaster. He did a great job retracing Janeen's steps. The production error in the Jester's Court was unfortunate though. It cost him 15-20 seconds almost, even though it was not his fault. I have seen people actually blame him for this production error. I think it was our very own outer space? If Janeen got her crap together sooner, this would've been a win. You gotta love the temple guard encounters in this run though. I wouldn't have mind if you gave Jay a 9 either. He totally deserves it.  :mrred:

Ruby Earring was another easy win from this day, and I actually like it more than Sforza. Mostly because Kevin and Annie felt like a more deserving team than Lacey and Asher. Plus, they pretty much dominated this episode. Also, Kirk was very hyper in this episode too. :lol: I always liked the legend for this episode and it is one of the few I can remember by heart. The Steps of Knowledge was close, but the Silver Snakes almost blew a couple of questions. I remember Annie almost getting one of her answers wrong, but she corrected herself at the last second. The temple games were kind of average, but they were still close. I remember the male temple game with the spinning pendant was close. And Kirk says he wanted to put the players out of their misery. :lol: The Green Monkeys sucked in the team game though. The Green Monkeys girl was shooting balls all over the place, and the Green Monkeys boy was taking forever to launch the ball. Kevin and Annie were clearly the better team and they deserved to go to the temple more.  :mrsilver: The temple run was pretty good too. Annie had to be the contestant removed from the temple the fastest. Kevin got an unlucky break after Annie was removed because there was like a 5-7 seconds delay before Kirk sent him to the temple. He demolished the bottom floor of the temple and brought the Ruby Earring out with over a minute to spare! This victory was no fluke and any team victory with over a minute left is impressive in my book. Kevin and Annie were a fast team, and they handled their layout quite well. Look at teams like Xerxes and Snow Cone where they could not even pass the bottom floor. -_- The ending was a classic too where Kirk high fives Kevin and says "You got it brotha!".  :mrsilver:

Finally, we end it with the last episode ever. And just like Belshazzar, the Red Jaguars in Catherine the Great are the team to end this show. In this case though, Kris and Kristin end it in memorable fashion.  :mrred: The moat was kind of long in this episode, but it didn't hurt the Red Jaguars or Orange Iguanas score fortunately. The temple games were close in this episode, and we get the rare 2-1.5 score. I also found the temple game sequence to be fun and fitting also. The temple run was the highlight of this episode though. Just like Annie, Kris was removed within a very short amount of time in the temple. He actually made it back to the platform too even though he didn't need to. Kristin was the star of this run though and I think a 9 score is perfect for her. Her dive into the Pit was sweet and she handled her layout quite well. Plus, she grabbed the Jewel-Encrusted Egg with plenty of time and brought it out with a lot of time on the clock. This was a great episode and one of my all time favorite episodes on the show. It may have taken until the very last episode of the show to get a good temple win, but it was worth the wait.  :mrred: Too bad this was the last episode ever, but at least the players and production crew ended it with a blast. We could not ask for a better way to end this amazing show.  :mrred:

Overall, I enjoyed your rankings just as I am sure you enjoyed ranking this production day. It is interesting to see Jay rank the highest and his team was the only one that day that didn't win. This is my preferences for this day:

Catherine the Great >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good-Luck Watch > Ruby Earring >>>>>>>>>> Sforza
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 04, 2014, 11:42:34 PM
Great rankings PPF. I agree that short layouts should not detract the scores of these players. And Kevin definitely deserved a high score for the Temple (I'd give him an 8 personally). And of course? The last day is my fave episode ever for a reason.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 05, 2014, 12:10:24 AM
Just as I thought. Casey and Heather had higher scores than Karisa. How is that even possible?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 05, 2014, 12:50:29 AM
Thanks guys. And yeah, the Sforza kids did kind of scrape by each round. But I really like this episode, especially the enthusiasm from Lacey. Even though it did come across attention seeking at times. Though she's not as bad as some contestants. Kate I'm looking at you. And no way were the Purple Parrots gonna beat Jay and Janeen in this episode. Courtney was especially weak, and she really brought her team down. I don't remember outer space chastising Jay for the whole production error thing. Maybe I blocked it out though. And the Silver Snakes in Benzibab were MUCH stronger than the Green Monkeys were. Maybe my team game score for Jason were a little too generous. Though he was a beast compared to Paula, who had absolutely abysmal aim. Enough said about Catherine the Great. Kris and Kristin owned everything. :mrred:

And @ RJF: Not good when the Snow Cone kids rank better than Karisa. :shock: That's all kinds of sad there.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 05, 2014, 01:16:25 AM
I don't know, the Snow Cone kids were a special kind of bad. Maybe they did better than Karisa in the earlier rounds, but they definitely sucked more in the temple. These two didn't even make it past the Dark Forest. At least Karisa completed a couple of tough objectives like the Shrine and Ancient Warriors. Casey spent two minutes alone just to get to the Dark Forest. :roll: I say the Snow Cone kids sucked more in the temple, but Karisa sucked more overall. She was not impressive at all in the earlier rounds of her episode for sure. David pretty much did all the work for her. I hate both these episodes with a passion, but I find Snow Cone is a little suckier than Enormous Feather.  :evil:

In fact, RJF's ranking for Karisa is lower than my rankings for John and Tia for Golden Cricket Cage. I wonder how bad those two would rank under his method for Cricket Cage? Those would be some interesting numbers.  :o
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 05, 2014, 01:24:37 AM
John and Tia would probably rank in the 2 range, like the Blue Barracuda girl did for THK in the Mata Hari episode. :o Episodes like Snow Cone and Cricket Cage are episodes I wouldn't even touch with a ten foot poll. O_O

As for my next set of rankings, I think I'll once and for all rank John Sutter. That's another one I've been promising to rank for weeks, but haven't gotten to yet. :lol: That should be up sometime this weekend. Plus, the ranking comparison list (TRJ's list) is still gonna need a massive update. I'm not even halfway done with Season 2 yet.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 05, 2014, 06:56:39 PM
I thinking of changing around some of the scores for Sforza. Do you think it was a mistake for me to give both Lacey AND Asher credit for the tiebreaker? Maybe I should've just given the +1 to Lacey, or give neither of them the credit. Maybe I was a little too generous with those rankings. Should I change it so it looks more respectable and accurate?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 05, 2014, 09:44:40 PM
Give Lacey the credit. She did answer the bulk of the question. All Asher added was "And someone caught it". And I'm sure that's not part of the answer.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 05, 2014, 10:12:52 PM
Yeah, Asher only said four words at most. While technically they BOTH spoke up for the tiebreaker, Lacey definitely deserves more credit. Otherwise, everything else should rank as accurate as possible. Though I'm not sure about Jason's temple game score in Benzibab. I don't remember him being THAT bad, at least not as bad as his partner.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 06, 2014, 06:26:12 PM
THE LOST HORNPIPE OF THE PIRATE CAPTAIN

Jessica
Moat: 10
Steps Of Knowledge: 9
Individual: 8.5
Team: N/A (She was in the bag)
Pre-Temple (Normal Scoring): 9.17
Pre-Temple (My Scoring): 8.91
Temple: 10
Overall (Normal Scoring): 9.38
Overall (My Scoring): 9.49

Jarrid
Moat: 9
Steps Of Knowledge: 9
Individual: 5 (Look at Brent's score for this game and you'll know why)
Team: 9.5
Pre-Temple (Normal Scoring): 7.88
Pre-Temple (My Scoring): 7.76
Temple: 9.5
Overall (Normal Scoring): 8.4
Overall (My Scoring): 8.48

Mary
Moat: 8.5
Steps Of Knowledge: N/A
Individual: 8.5
Team: N/A (She was in the bag)
Overall (Normal Scoring): 8.5
Overall (My Scoring): 8.5

Brent
Moat: 10
Steps Of Knowledge: 9.5
Individual: 10
Team: 7.5
Overall (Normal Scoring): 9.25
Overall (My Scoring): 9.03

Comments:
These players! :shock: Firstly, kudos to Brent. He's the first player from a losing team I've ranked to have a score of at least 9 overall. And the reason for the 10 in his individual game is because he DESTROYED his Temple Game, knocking down all of Jarrid's statues before HALF the time was up. Secondly, Jessica destroyed every single round. And look at the 10's she got! She may very well be the best player of the whole season and even the series.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 06, 2014, 06:34:00 PM
These players indeed. :shock: Look at that score! And I totally agree with your rankings too. Lost Hornpipe was one of the best episodes ever on the show, and Jessica and Jarrid may very well be one of the best players in the series. Even in my rankings of them, they all ranked very high, Brent included. Great rankings there. ;)

As for me, I'm definitely gonna rank both Galileo and John Sutter next. :mrblue: :mrsilver: I'll rank them both at the same time too. If I ever rank another whole filming day again, I'll probably rank the first day of Season 2. Just to see how teams like Silver Horseshoe and Secret Battle Plan rank.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 06, 2014, 09:57:11 PM
Here are my rankings for the Green Monkeys and Red Jaguars in Pirate Captain:


THE LOST HORNPIPE OF THE PIRATE CAPTAIN

Jessica
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 9
Temple Run: 10
Overall: 8.6

Jarrid
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 9
Temple Run: 9.5
Overall: 8.3

Mary
Moat: 8.5
Steps of Knowledge: 7.5
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.75

Brent
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 10
Team Game: 7
Overall: 8.5

NOTES:
This episode featured two very strong teams. The Purple Parrots were dominant in the moat and did well at the Steps, while the Green Monkeys were right behind them in both categories.

The Purple Parrot boy, Brent, was very strong in his temple game. He knocked down all four soldiers in under a half-minute. Poor Jarrid struggled in this temple game and couldn't even keep up with Brent. Jessica and Mary were very competitive in their temple games and both ended in a close tie.

Jarrid and Jessica were very fast in their team game. They only beat it in what, 19 seconds? It only took both of them 4-5 pushes to knock down all three ships. The Purple Parrots were close behind them, but Jarrid and Jessica were just too good hear.

And do I really needs to say much about the temple run? They owned everything! I did have to give Jarrid a slightly lower score for the mistake in the Secret Password, but other than that...

Best team on Legends ever?

Overall, this was easily the best episode of the entire production day.


Both of our rankings show that both the Purple Parrots and Green Monkeys were strong teams. The lowest score a player from that episode got in your rankings was Brent getting a 7.5 in the team game. That is impressive! As for Pirate Captain, this was a classic episode and definitely my favorite episode in Season 3. It is an episode that was fun all day and I can't find any flaws in it. I can guarantee that both teams would've dominated the temple if they made. But the Green Monkeys were the star of this episode, especially Jessica! It was a nice change of pace to watch a team in the temple where both players knew what they were doing. Jessica made amazing time in the temple it took her under a minute to complete the central shaft. I think that a 10 in the temple is fitting. Jarrid was just as solid, and I am glad you didn't give him a low score because of the detour into the Secret Password. That move could've been deadly, but it had no impact on the final outcome of the run. His exit plan was swift and they even overcame a production error to win. Kirk was certainly right about this being the best team the show has ever seen.  :mrgreen: Overall, great episode and performance. There is no doubt in my mind that Jessica was the best female player on the show. Jarrid was equally as good too and they made this episode very special. You picked a good episode to rank.  :mrgreen:

Next up is Queen Boadicea, one of the few enjoyable Red Jaguars episodes. I remember the Green Monkeys in this episode sucking though, while Nate was the star player. It would've been nice to see this team win, but it was still an exciting run. And much better than a certain Headless Kings run before them.  :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 06, 2014, 10:00:24 PM
Yeah, much better than a certain shouter we know. *coughDanacough* :roll:

And suddenly I feel like ranking Lost Hornpipe too. :lol: I do have the episode ranked, I would just have to copy and paste it here. But first things first, I need to rank a certain few early Season 1 episodes I've already promised to do.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 06, 2014, 10:19:52 PM
The lowest I gave was a 5 to Jarrid in his Individual Temple Game, TRJ. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 06, 2014, 10:25:29 PM
And a 5 is pretty fitting for Jarrid in his individual game too. I think I gave him a 6 in my rankings, but that can't really be helped when Brent outright destroyed Jarrid in his game. Boy, we really got lucky with a strong group of players here, didn't we? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 08, 2014, 02:41:02 AM
And I've updated TRJ's player comparison list all the way up to the end of Season 2. It was a lot of work, but check it out nonetheless. Let me know if I missed or miscalculated anything. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 16, 2014, 12:43:12 AM
John and Tia would probably rank in the 2 range, like the Blue Barracuda girl did for THK in the Mata Hari episode. :o Episodes like Snow Cone and Cricket Cage are episodes I wouldn't even touch with a ten foot poll. O_O
I'm gonna go and dive into that anyway just to get it over with. You're in for a shock when you see the ratings.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 16, 2014, 12:44:43 AM
Let me guess, they rank worse than the Blue Barracuda girl from Mata Hari? :shock: Either way, good luck.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 16, 2014, 12:48:18 AM
Let me guess, they rank worse than the Blue Barracuda girl from Mata Hari? :shock: Either way, good luck.
I haven't watched that episode in so long. How bad can she be? :shock:

Okay, I'm doing Mata Hari, then Khan.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 16, 2014, 12:50:42 AM
Well, she sucked balls in the team temple game, the one with the dragon tunnel. Seriously, she couldn't pull herself up the tunnel if her life depended on it. I know these are just kids, but how hard is it for you to pull yourself up a mere tunnel? I sort of want to see your rankings for Cricket Cage first. But if you want to do Mata Hari, then that's fine too.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 16, 2014, 01:27:53 AM
Well, she sucked balls in the team temple game, the one with the dragon tunnel. Seriously, she couldn't pull herself up the tunnel if her life depended on it. I know these are just kids, but how hard is it for you to pull yourself up a mere tunnel? I sort of want to see your rankings for Cricket Cage first. But if you want to do Mata Hari, then that's fine too.

Plus, the dragon tunnel game was used many times in Season 1. And no one ever had as much trouble as Gigi did. While the tunnel was kind of narrow, the hills were small and all you had to "snake your way" through it. Even tubby Garrett didn't really have problems with this game. After watching that temple game performance, i guess it was a blessing in disguise that the Silver Snakes went to the temple.

Either way, good luck with both Mata Hari and Golden Cricket Cage, RJF. Especially on Golden Cricket Cage. It was like everything that could go wrong in an episode happens in that one. :shock: Although it is pretty comical how bad the players were in this episode. Even though the Purple Parrots lost, they still ranked higher than the Silver Snakes for both me and THK.  :?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 16, 2014, 01:35:26 AM
Plus, how is it possible that the Purple Parrots, like John and Tia, "didn't deserve to win anything?" They might not have been impressive in the temple games either, but no one could've done worse than John and Tia. I don't think that's even remotely possible. O_O
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 16, 2014, 01:41:45 AM
Even Sabrina from Blackbeard covered more rooms than both players of the Golden Cricket Cage team. The Purple Parrots would've done better than John and Tia, no questions asked. And why on earth did THK give John a 3 in the temple again? While he made all the progress in the run, he was still really bad. I mean he literally went back to the Cave of Sighs when the Spider's Lair door didn't open. Both players honestly deserve a 0 if that was possible.  :?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 16, 2014, 02:23:43 AM
THE CODEBOOK OF MATA HARI:

Garrett
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowlege: 7
Individual: 4
Team: 6
Pre-Temple (Normal scoring): 5.75
Pre-Temple (My scoring): 5.48
Temple: 5.5
Overall (Normal scoring): 5.7
Overall (My scoring): 5.47

Rinette
Moat: 5.5
Steps of Knowledge: N/A
Individual: 6
Team: 6
Pre-Temple (Normal scoring): 5.67
Pre-Temple (My scoring): 5.93
Temple: 2.5
Overall (Normal scoring): 5
Overall (My scoring): 4.35

Ryan
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual: 7 (I refuse to listen to Kirk!)
Team: 5 (By default, I guess)
Overall (Normal scoring): 5.75
Overall (Normal scoring): 5.82

Gigi
Moat: 4.5
Steps of Knowledge: 5
Individual: 7.5
Team: 0 (You're reading this right)
Overall (Normal scoring): 4.25
Overall (My scoring): 3.86

I'll edit the scores from my formula later

Comments:
Can we add a barf emoticon into the forum? Because this episode was just hard to stomach. I have nothing more to say.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 16, 2014, 02:30:01 AM
LMAO, a zero?! :lol: Told you Gigi was so woefully inept and uncoordinated. Without your formula, the 4.25 average she has right now is the exact same ranking I gave her in my player rankings. And believe, that's bad. Good rankings though, I guess it's Cricket Cage for you next. :o
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 16, 2014, 02:39:50 AM
Mata Hari is a lame episode that hardly has anything good. It was pretty cringeworthy to watch all the way through. The temple games were the low point of this episode. In the first temple game, Rinette was NOT further along than Ryan. If anything, the temple game should've been a tie or even should've went Ryan's way. I don't know on what planet Kirk believed that Rinette was further along. The team game was the same way where it really should've been a tie. And LMFAO at GiGi getting a 0 in the temple games.  :lol: She wholeheartedly deserves it, like Colby in Bifocal Monocle. The temple run was boring, but I think you nailed the scores well. Garrett was slow but not too bad. Rinette was a lost cause and she did shit with her little time. Overall, I believe these scores reflect the players in this episode well. ;)

And I second the barf emoticon too. Although the closes to one is probably this one:  :lipsrsealed: . This episode totally deserves, along with Golden Cricket Cage. If you are planning to do that one next that is. That episode makes Mata Hari look like Lawrence of Arabia in comparison.  :oops:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 16, 2014, 02:43:23 AM
And I can expect John and Tia to get a 0 for their temple run as well. Not that they don't deserve it. :roll: As for me, I'm thinking of ranking the first filming day of Season 2 next. Since that day literally has not been ranked yet. I know THK ranked them once, but they were erased in the database crash. What does everyone think? Should I rank them next? ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 16, 2014, 02:49:39 AM
Yeah, I think S2L1 would be interesting to rank. Especially since we are talking about Butch Cassidy in the other topic. :lol: Although don't expect anything special from that day. In fact, all of those episodes were average or just plain bad. Especially Grandy Nanny and Nathan Hale.  :oops:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 16, 2014, 02:57:29 AM
Yeah, I honestly don't think there's even a single episode I even like from that day. I remember Matt from Silver Horseshoe ranked pretty high. His performance in the moat helped a lot. And Amber from Silver Cannonball ranked pretty low. I don't know, I might have to do some re watching to make sure everything is accurate. I guess it has to be done sometime, and I also want to take on Missing Eye's filming day somewhere down the road. Now THAT filming day had some exciting episodes. :mrsilver: Plus, didn't you want to rank them too? ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 17, 2014, 01:56:49 AM
It should come as no shock to anyone if I gave John and Tia a 0 each for the Temple, huh?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 17, 2014, 02:02:22 AM
Nope, definitely not. They wholeheartedly deserve it. It will be interesting to see what their final scores come out to be.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 17, 2014, 02:52:34 PM
John and Tia are the team that deserve a 0 in the temple. Four rooms in 3 minutes in the Season 1 temple? These losers totally deserve it.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 18, 2014, 11:16:01 PM
After promising for months that I'd post them, here are my rankings for John Sutter. :mrblue:

JOHN SUTTER AND THE MAP TO THE LOST GOLD MINE

Damian
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7.6

Jennifer
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 8.2

Perry
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7
Overall: 6.5

Brook
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7.0

NOTES:

This was a great episode! :mrblue: I would even go as far as saying this was one of the best episodes of Season 1, if not the show. Both Damian and Jennifer were very speedy getting across the moat, and rang in first. While the Silver Snakes were a little slower, and rang in last. Jennifer was exceptionally smart during the Steps of Knowledge. Despite all the answers thrown out in that round, she got most of her questions right before the choices were even revealed. She did all the work for the Steps, while Damian never rang in. Which is alright because I REFUSE to rank someone low for not speaking during the steps. I only rank low for the steps if you get too many answers wrong, and still advance to the temple games. The temple games were a close match between the Blue Barracudas and the Silver Snakes, though if you couldn't already tell by the rankings, Damian and Jennifer were clearly the stronger team. After tying the first two games and winning the third, the Blue Barracudas earn themselves a trip to the temple! :mrblue: Or should I say "The sixteen are going to the temple!" as Kirk said, mistaking their team name for their 16-10 victory in the final temple game. :lol: And the temple run was amazing. I don't understand the flack it gets sometimes. This was still very early on in the show. Obviously they're not always gonna know what they're doing. Damian was removed from the temple in three rooms, and only lasted about 26 seconds in the temple. Even then, I still gave him an "8" since he DID move fast through the rooms. How is he "not that great again?" But the real star of the show here, was Jennifer. Even though her only real objective was assembling the monkey, she was still very fast and never got turned around once. I don't understand how some people call her "clueless" or "flawed." She passed through a total of 8 rooms, with very little trouble. Like Damian, I also gave Jennifer an "8" for the temple run. Jennifer reached the map with about 55 seconds or so left on the clock, and escaped with 16 seconds to spare. And of course, we all remember her slip on the floor at the end. :lol: Seriously, what WAS that sheet doing on the floor anyways? Either way, great episode and great run. Jennifer and Damian were a wonderful team all day, and they deserved to win. Jennifer was easily the strongest player out of all four players. This episode and Lawrence of Arabia are two of my favorite Season 1 episodes.

So, what do you think? Are my rankings here fair enough? Please kindly give me your feedback. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 19, 2014, 01:08:30 AM
Jennifer and Damian were a great team and I think your rankings capture their dominance perfectly.  :mrblue: They were dominant in every round and still won in the temple. Jennifer was more the star in this episode than Damian, but they were both awesome. After getting eliminated in Lost Hammer, they made a huge comeback in Map to the Lost Gold Mine. I remember Jennifer being very impressive in the Steps. Her team was the only one that didn't get a single answer wrong. I am pretty sure I gave her a 9 also and Damian a 6 or 7. And I am glad that you didn't give Damian a low score in the Steps either. I think it is a bunch of crap when he gets the exact same score as the Silver Snakes boy in "The Trojan Horseshoe". Sorry THK, but I have to keep bringing this up because it feels like you are being hard on Jennifer and Damian for no reason.

The temple games were close in this episode, and we had the infamous temple game miscount. :lol: Technically, the Blue Barracudas should've gone to the temple with 1.5 Pendants. But Kirk is too incompetent to count the right way. The temple games were still memorable and close though. The first two games were a tie, and the last game had the Blue Barracudas winning. This episode featured one of the many times where Kirk makes a lame reference about how the Silver Snakes have no feet because they were snakes. :roll: In the end, Damian and Jennifer dominated to go to the temple.  :mrblue: The temple run was a solid effort and I think an 8 is very fitting for Jennifer. In fact, that is what I gave Jennifer too.  :mrblue: She was a solid runner in the temple and completed her rooms swiftly. I had little problems with her temple performance. She did struggle a little bit in the Shrine and completed the Torch Room for no reason, but I don't look down on her for that. She still grabbed the Map with a lot of time and brought it out with a memorable ending. :lol: Overall, it was a strong performance. Of course, THK gave Jennifer a 6 in the temple and he gave the same exact score to Gabby from Golden Ship. Really? Gabby only lasted one extra room and she moved like a snail. If Jennifer and Damian had the Golden Ship layout, they would've finished with 2:00+. But what bothers me most is that Bobby got a higher score in the temple. :roll: I hate Shaka Zulu more and more everytime someone jacks off to Bobby. Jennifer was one of the best girls of Season 1 and the show!  :mrblue:

Overall, I think your rankings reflect Jennifer and Damian's dominance perfectly.  ;)  :mrblue: I definitely agree with yours and PP319's rankings more than THK. I can't believe I never said anything back when he first posted his S1L2 rankings. :? Good choice for an episode too. This episode is one of my all time favorite episodes, and it is actually in my top 5 favorite episodes. Lawrence of Arabia has it beat by a couple of rankings, but I still love this episode to death.  :mrblue:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 19, 2014, 01:27:36 AM
Thanks, I just love John Sutter. :mrblue: I don't care how many mistakes Jennifer made in the temple, she did a fantastic job. And I agree, I also think THK's rankings of John Sutter were too harsh. Especially with Damian getting a "3" for the Steps of Knowledge. I mean, I can understand giving someone an "N/A" like PP319 did for his rankings, (and RJF also does), but anything below a "5" is too harsh for me. I just don't feel like it's fair to rank someone that low if you don't respond on the steps. Not everyone is gonna be a speed demon with the buzzer and sweep the steps. And I remember you gave both Jennifer AND Damian a "9" for the temple run. Which is also pretty fitting, but I just thought giving them an "8" was better. But yeah, this episode was just great, and it deserves all the praise it gets. :mrblue: Especially considering the other runs that day.

Also, do you think you could pull up your rankings of John Sutter? So we can compare our rankings. ;) In fact, I think I've ranked almost every Blue Barracuda team in Season 1. All the teams except for Golden Jaguar and Buddha. Maybe I'll rank those next. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 19, 2014, 01:37:56 AM
Here are my rankings for Jennifer and Damian:  :mrblue:


JOHN SUTTER AND THE MAP TO THE LOST GOLD MINE

Damian
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 9
Overall: 8.00

Jennifer
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 8
Temple Run: 9
Overall: 8.40

Perry
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 7.5
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7.5
Overall: 6.88

Brook
Moat: 6.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7.5
Overall: 7.00

NOTES:
If you didn't know already, but I love this episode. :mrblue: Seriously, it's such a fun episode and not only was the best episode of S1L2, but it was also one of the best episodes on the whole show. Luckily, they saved the best for last. :mrblue:

If you didn't know already, Jennifer and Damian were in "John Henry's Lost Hammer" as the Blue Barracudas. They didn't make it past the moat though in that episode. That is alright though, because they kicked ass though and had a strong return in this episode! :mrblue: They went first in the moat, first in the Steps, won two pendants in the temple games, and won their temple run. Not many teams share that same stat line, but they were the first to do this.

THK originally gave Damian a 0 in the Steps of Knowledge. I don't agree with this score at all. Even though Damian didn't answer any questions, that doesn't mean he didn't know any of the answers. Giving him a 0 makes him look worst than he really performed. iO always give a player at least a 7 even if they don't answer a qestion. Jennifer was the one that was chiming in and she did an amazing job in the Steps. She was attentive and even got an answer right with any of the choices being revealed. I am not sure how the Silver Snakes made it to the temple games though. They barely advanced by the moat and now they just barely advanced by the Steps.

The Blue Barracudas were pretty strong in the temple games too. This biggest highlight of the temple games is the miscount of the first temple game. In the first temple game, the contestants were pushing pieces of gold through the dragon tunnel. In the end, Kirk miscounted the final score. The Silver Snakes actually had more pieces of gold than the Blue Barracudas. But he called it a tie. It didn't matter, because Damian was moving much faster than Brooke and would've won anyways if he had a couple of more seconds left to put his other pieces of gold into the bin. Jennifer had bad luck in her individual game where she dropped one of her sacks of gold. She was doing better than the Silver Snake boy and would've won if that sack of gold didn't drop on her. But at least they still tied.

For the last temple game, I noticed something that I have never noticed before. During the team game, after the players had to slide down the slope, they were suppose to run back through the middle of the slides in order to reposition themselves again. Damian kept running on the wrong side of the slides because he was suppose to run through the middle. I don't really call this cheating, but I deducted a point from him for not following the rules. But Kirk clearly stated they had to run through the middle. The last team game was a nailbiter though but the Barracudas won.

The temple win is very exciting and I can't understand why people think Jennifer's temple performance was so flawed. Yeah, she hesitated in a couple of rooms of the temple, but many S1 players did that. I am not sure on what basis that THK gave her a 6 in the temple. She didn't seem clueless to me at all. Even though her strategy didn't work out, it didn't throw her off at all. She moved very fast in the temple and brought the Map to the Lost Gold Mine out with quite some time to spare. Pretty good considering she had to move through 8 rooms. I gave Damian a 9 also because his speed was unbelievable and who knows how far he would've made if he wasn't taken out early? If Annie gets a lot of praise, he should also receive recognition.  

This was a great episode and team and I am not sure why THK ranked these two players so low. A team that wins first in every round is definitely not a fluke. I loved this episode and it was a nice way to cap off an otherwise miserable production day.

Overall, this production day was pretty sucky up until the very last episode. Those first three temple runs are among the worst in the series. But Map to the Lost Gold Mine on the other hand was one of the best. This is how I rank the episodes overall:

Map to the Lost Gold Mine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Golden Ship > Lost Hammer > Piss and poop > Golden Cricket Cage

Our rankings are pretty close despite getting different numbers. We came up with the same conclusion that Jennifer was the star of this episode. But both were still great. Looking back now, I would probably give them both an 8 in the temple. Which is still a pretty damn good score. Also, we both gave Brook the exact same score. :lol: And Perry was not too close behind either. Overall, I think yours, mine, and PP319's rankings portray that the Lost Gold Mine team was a very dominant and strong team. :mrblue:

Golden Jaguar would be a good episode to do next. The Blue Barracudas were a good team in that episode, even if the loss was full of mistakes. This episode ranked well in the Episode Ranking thread, so I am sure you won't have a problem with rewatching it for your rankings. Buddha was an average episode, but Jennifer and Tony did pretty good pre-temple rounds. Both episodes are worth your time I say. ;) Are you going to do the rest S1L2 too?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 19, 2014, 01:42:15 AM
The rest of S1L2? No way, those are some episodes I like to pretend never happened. :shock: Okay, Golden Ship was okay, and I do have rankings of those too, but it will be a while before I ever post them. But John Henry and Cricket Cage are episodes you couldn't even pay me to watch again. :lol: I'd definitely love to take on Buddha and/or Golden Jaguar. Those were some good episodes, though I'm gonna need to re watch both of them. Just so my scores match up and are accurate from the last time I watched the episode and ranked them. ;) And yeah, our rankings and also PP319's rankings of John Sutter are definitely a lot more accurate and fitting. And I just can't get over how piss and shit literally rank better than Cricket Cage. Man, that's just great. :lol:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 19, 2014, 01:52:03 AM
You're doing yourself a favor by NOT rewatching those episodes. ;) Especially Lost Hammer and Golden Cricket Cage. Both of those episodes deserve to rank below feces and urine. :shock: No worries, I wouldn't rewatch those episodes myself. Although in my case, Cricket Cage is so bad that I have all of the rounds memorized already. :oops: I am sure many people can relate to that. If RJF is going to rank them, good luck to him!  :o
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 19, 2014, 01:55:14 AM
Yeah, there is a reason I've only seen the full episode of Cricket Cage once. To me, that episode just doesn't exist. I think I've blocked every aspect of that episode out of my memory. :oops: If RJF is still considering ranking them, he's gonna need all the luck he can get. :o I also want to take on first day of Season 2 and Missing Eye's day as well. I'll rank those somewhere down the road too. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 19, 2014, 01:59:12 AM
I literally lost my rankings for Missing Eye and Enormous Iron Nose Ring.  :cry: I had those two episodes fully ranked, but lost them somehow. I am sure they are in a file that I am overlooking. I never finished Ahmed Baba or Ivory Elephant at all. I do recall that Joel actually ranked really well though before the temple run. And his overall score was pretty high also. Like I said before, despite being overrated and flawed, he is one of the few contestants that I could count on to dominate any other temple layout. ;)  :mrsilver:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 19, 2014, 02:09:36 AM
Yeah, Joel ranked pretty high for me too. I believe he got an 8 average overall. Joel was pretty flawed, but he was still a good player. And like you said, he could definitely dominate any other temple layout. Can't say I blame you for NOT ranking Tall Turban or Ivory Elephant. Since those are some of the most dull episodes ever, even if the former was a win. I have those episodes ranked though, and everyone ranks just average for the most part. The players in the Missing Eye episode rank pretty high though. Everyone there ranks around the mid 7 range, wrong answers galore on the steps be damned. :lol: But, I'm not gonna spoil too much for you. ;)

As for the Season 1 episodes, I don't think I could ever post an entire five day production day. Posting four episodes for a full production day is daunting enough. It definitely speeds things up ranking just one episode anyways. Which is what everyone has been doing as of late. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 20, 2014, 11:18:19 PM
And I've updated the rest of the ranking comparison chart that TRJ made. So now almost every episode has rankings. We're still missing all of S2L1, most of Tall Turban's day, and most of Chandragupta's day. So if you want to make it into a chart now, that would be great. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 20, 2014, 11:23:43 PM
Looks great! A chart will definitely make the list look better though. It is definitely a helpful way to go back and look at what players we ranked and the score we gave them. For example, I totally forgot I ranked Bifocal Monocle until I looked at that list.

Here is how the table will probably look like:

EpisodeMale PlayerFemale Player

Also, I liked how you added a couple of links in the first post. That will definitely help us out to use as references. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 20, 2014, 11:55:04 PM
Yeah, I thought it would be much easier to add both charts to the OP, so people can find whichever chart. ;) I also need to make my "who ranked what" chart into a bigger chart as well. I think my chart would look like this:

Production DayMember who ranked them

And of course, the * next to the member who partially ranked a production day. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 23, 2014, 12:25:22 AM
I started working on the table for my comparison rankings post. I completed all of Season 1, and the list looks much more organized. I will work on Season 2 and 3 over the weak also. ;) I gave credit to PPF for helping to update the list too. I forgot to mention that earlier.  :mrpurple:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 23, 2014, 12:32:14 AM
Over the weak? ;)

And it looks great so far. Thanks for giving me credit too. :mrpurple: I might work on making my list/post into an actual chart too. That should be coming up very soon. So be on the look out for it.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 23, 2014, 07:32:43 AM
I think you're gonna have to edit my scores for the "Cannonball" kids. Those scores are from my own formula.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 24, 2014, 09:36:44 AM
THE GOLDEN CRICKET CAGE OF KHAN

Jon
Moat: 3.5
Steps of Knowledge: 4
Individual: 6
Team: 5
Pre-Temple: 4.625
Temple: 0
Overall: 3.7

Tia
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: N/A
Individual: 8 (Shocking. I know. Contrary to how TRJ scored them (a 3? Really? And lower than the Purple Parrot when she was faster than him?), Tia was quite good in this game)
Team: 7 (Also shocking. I'm just as confused as you are.)
Pre-Temple: 6.67
Temple: 0
Overall: 5 (How in the heck did she pass? :| I'm sure my own formula would fail her)

Mike
Moat: 1
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual: 8
Team: 4
Overall: 4.75

Michelle
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: N/A
Individual: 8
Team: 7
Overall: 6.67

I'll update with my own formula's scores later.

Comments: Kill them before they lay eggs! (I hope they are nice people in real life because we love to bash their stupidity) Also, of all days for the Purple Parrots to not make it to the Temple. Look at Michelle. She was good that day. Ugh.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 24, 2014, 10:35:27 AM
Here's my rankings for "Golden Cricket Cage" for reference:


THE GOLDEN CRICKET CAGE OF KHAN

John
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 5
Temple Run: 1
Overall: 4.40

Tia
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 3
Team Game: 5
Temple Run: 1
Overall: 4.40

Michelle
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 4
Overall: 6.00

Mike
Moat: 3
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 4.5
Overall: 5.38

NOTES:
Unlike "Lost Hammer", this episode was a disaster. The moat in this episode seemed to give more teams trouble. John was halfway across the moat and he struggled majorly getting across. Yet, he somehow managed to chime in first. The Purple Parrots finished last and it was painful to watch these teams struggle.

The rest of the rounds were just mediocre. The temple games were pretty embarassing and the Purple Parrots really should've gone to the temple. How did the Silver Snakes win? Well Tia tied her game and they barely won the last temple game. Also, John looked like a fool and got beat by a girl in his temple game. :roll:

The temple run... I think we all know how bad it is. :roll: Unlike THK, I gave John a 1 in the temple. This kid wasted over a minute trying to get to the Heart Room and this includes backtracking all the way to the Cave of Sighs. Who knows how far he would've made it if he wasn't taken out in the Heart Room? Tia was even worse (if that was possible) and this whole temple run was a load of crap. These two made it through 4 rooms in 3 minutes and there is nothing good to say about it. At least "Lost Hammer" had Billy who sort of redeemed that run.

The Purple Parrots would've done much better than these two losers. Even though I wasn't impressed with the myself, they still performed better than John and Tia. No doubt in my mind they would've had a better temple performance. This whole episode is laughable and John was such an annoying loser also. :roll:

It's literally been a year since I ranked the teams in this episode. :o I haven't even watched this episode at all since then. From what I recall, the whole episode was a complete suckfest. The moat crossing was really bad in this episode and despite struggling to get across, the Silver Snakes were the first team to get across. :o The Steps of Knowledge was okay, the male players did all the answering. This is the SoK where one player gave a wrong answer and the other team gave the exact same wrong answer. :roll: Unlike THK though, I didn't give Michelle or Tia a low score just because they didn't answer.

Your right about Tia's temple game though. I went back and rewatched it (shudders) and Tia did actually do pretty good. I am not sure what I was thinking when I gave her a 3. I would probably give her a 7 like THK did, which would raise her overall score a little bit. Also, I think I am going to give Tia a higher score in the team game too. She was way better than John and she literally had to crawl further in order to give him a spice bag. IIRC, I did this round at the top of my head when I ranked this temple games round. Which is why the numbers seem low. I am going to go back and adjust some of Tia's numbers.

The temple run was a huge disaster though. John and Tia literally entered 4 rooms and 3 minutes, and Tia couldn't even figure out the Heart Room. How could you be so stupid? It was like she didn't know that the door upwards didn't exist. This is a horrible temple run altogether. I think a 0 is fitting for both players. I don't see how THK can justify giving John a "3" in the temple either. He was slow, clueless, and backtracked to the Wall Climb. :? Worst temple run ever for sure.

Overall, we all can agree that John and Tia were a horrible team. But they still got to the temple fairly though. Unlike other teams like Alhambra and Jean Lafitte. But still, the Purple Parrots would've done much better than these two. Even if Mike ranked pretty low too. I have to admit that the temple games were actually quite good in this episode too. They were close and all of them came down to te wire. But this is still one of the worst episodes ever in my book. And I have no desire to rewatch it at all. :P

Good job on your rankings. I will update the table to include your rankings. ;) At the same time, I think I am going to adjust Tia's rankings too for my personal one. I bet you are glad to have this episode under your belt now and never worry about it again.  :mrsilver:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 24, 2014, 11:20:09 AM
Never again will I have to watch the episode! :lipsrsealed:

But Season 1 still has plenty of clunkers! "The Keys to the Alhambra", anyone?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 24, 2014, 11:25:11 AM
More than half of the Season 1 episodes I never go back and watch.  :oops:  Most of them are pretty mediocre and poorly produced. They are also pretty boring and forgettable too. Also, a lot of the really bad episodes come from Season 1 also. "Alhambra" is definitely the worst episode too. Steve and Lisa were more undeserving than John and Tia. Golden Cricket Cage, Blackbeard, Lucky Pig, Alhambra, and Lost Hammer are some of the worst episodes ever.  :oops:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 24, 2014, 03:56:54 PM
I'm gonna make my rankings comparison post into a chart. I'll let you know when it's done.

EDIT: Okay, I've done up to Season 1. I finally fixed the chart, and I'll update the rest later. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 24, 2014, 04:26:31 PM
And I'm gonna post my rankings of either Buddha or Atahualpa tomorrow. I hope that's okay with you guys. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 25, 2014, 12:58:13 AM
The table looks great. ;) A very quick and dirty way to help us remember if we covered an episode from a certain production day or not. I keep forgetting I covered Sir Gawain's day. :lol:

Also, I think Golden Jaguar would be an interesting episode to rank. One of the very few enjoyable losses from Season 1. I might even rank Chris and Tracy once you are done. I know most of that episode by heart too. You definitely can't go wrong with that one. Do you have that episode screencapped too?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 25, 2014, 01:02:56 AM
Thanks, it took me a LONG time to even everything and fix all the kinks. :lol: I think my problem was adding [table*] and [td*] (minus the *) at the end of every line/column. And here's something interesting to add: John Sutter is hereby the most ranked episode of this thread. And the S1L2 day in general is the most ranked production day, ranked fully or not. Just thought I'd share that with you. ;)

And I would love to see your rankings of Golden Jaguar. ;) But I do not have that episode screencapped. Buddha I got screencapped though. :mrblue:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 25, 2014, 01:09:27 AM
Buddha is another interesting one to rank also. The Blue Barracudas were a good team in this episode and finished first in each of those rounds. I definitely don't think that Jennifer is the best Blue Barracudas girl like a couple of other threads made her out to be. Seriously, she was really not that great.

Also, I know the feeling about the table trouble too. I had the exact same problem in both this thread and the Episode Ranking thread. No surprise to see Lost Gold Mine the most ranked episode though.  :mrblue:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 25, 2014, 01:19:36 AM
Yeah, Jennifer is definitely not "an amazing all star player" that she's made out to be. Identical layout to Freydis or not, Jennifer was just average. Speaking of Freydis, I should rank that episode sometime too. Or do what PP319 did, rank all the Purple Parrot teams. :mrpurple: Of course, this means the Purple Parrot teams I haven't already covered. :lol:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 25, 2014, 01:24:46 AM
You would even go back and rank horrible teams like Oracle Bowl and Lost Lion Tail? ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 25, 2014, 01:33:32 AM
No, those I'm not gonna re rank. Especially not Mr. 4.4 average Claude. O_O And I also have better Purple Parrot episodes like Bone Necklace and Metal Beard ranked in this thread. So it's not like I have THAT much work to do. ;) I might even rank all of Leopard Skin Cloak/Billy the Kid's filming day. It would be interesting to see how my rankings would stack up with the rankings you did. ;) :mrpurple:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 25, 2014, 01:37:00 AM
Yeah, the Annie Oakley/Billy the Kid day would be interesting to rank. Although that means you have to watch Silk Sash and Attila the Hun. :oops: Well, you probably remember Silk Sash at least when you ranked it in the Legends Episode thread with me. :P Attila the Hun is so boring that I would not rewatch it even if it wasn't a bad episode. But Annie Oakley and Billy the Kid are worth it.  :mrpurple:  :mrpurple:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 25, 2014, 02:02:49 AM
Actually, I've already re watched Silk Sash and Golden Goblet. It's Leopard Skin Cloak and Billy the Kid I need to re watch. Go figure. :lol: And those for sure are the two best episodes from that production day.

Here's a list of the Purple Parrot teams I have yet to rank:
King Tut
Leopard Skin Cloak
Snakeskin Boots
Golden Pepperoni
Freydis
Henry Hudson

All decent to great episodes, even the weaker episodes like Henry Hudson are pretty good too. But one step at a time, the last two Blue Barracuda runs I need to rank come first. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 25, 2014, 11:32:53 PM
And here it is, my rankings of "The Belly Button of Buddha." :mrblue:

THE BELLY BUTTON OF BUDDHA

Jennifer:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.6

Tony:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 6.75

Ramey:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

Katherine:
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 3
Team Game: 6
Overall: 5

NOTES:

This was a pretty good episode. However, it's moats like these that make the Purple Parrots look bad. They couldn't even get the first person across before all four teams gonged in. The Steps of Knowledge was a pretty average round, Tony was extremely smart during the Steps. He got all his answers right and was down to the final step after only four questions. He did all the work there, and Jennifer never rang in once. But that is alright because I am NEVER picky with contestants not ringing in, like I've said here before. The temple games were a pretty good competition, but I don't really feel like any of the players here excelled at anything. Tony and Katherine especially had trouble with their temple game. It was the game where you had to place a gold piece of paper on top of the soapy ramp. And only Tony scored at the end with one piece of gold paper, while Katherine struggled the entire game and never scored at all. I know you can't blame the kids for having trouble traversing a soapy ramp, but it was still pretty painful to watch. The Blue Barracudas managed to pull off the third temple game, with the up and down pulley system being used yet again. Even the Red Jaguars didn't struggle as much, but they weren't as fast with placing the jewels on the tower as Tony and Jennifer were. In the end, the Blue Barracudas beat the Red Jaguars 2-0.5 and earned their way to the temple. The temple run was alright, and Jennifer did do a decent job. But I only gave Jennifer a "6" because while she did know what she was doing for the most part, she really wasn't all that impressive. She especially stalled in the Treasure Room, though she was probably startled by the temple guard she at long last encountered, so that could explain things. Jennifer reaches the artifact with 27 seconds left on the clock, and then speeds out with 11 seconds to spare. I realize this temple run is an exact replica of "The Milk Bucket of Freydis," but Freydis was so much more exciting, and Tarrah faced a MUCH harder layout. All Jennifer had to do was press some actuators, assemble a monkey, press another actuator, grab the artifact, and run. Furthermore, Tarrah's run was so much more exciting and memorable, especially with her crash into the Pit, and STILL managing to escape with only a second to spare. This temple run was just plain average at best, and Jennifer was just that, an average contestant. That's not to say this was a bad run, but it's just not that exciting. Overall, Tony was the strongest player of the day, though not by much, and Katherine of the Red Jaguars was easily the weakest. Still a decent episode nonetheless.

And there you have it. I hope my rankings here are generous enough. So like always, very kindly give me your feedback. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on April 25, 2014, 11:59:21 PM
I haven't watched the episode in a long time, but I do remember the Temple Run. And I think 6 is a little generous for Jennifer considering how she walked through the Temple and got confused in the Treasure Room of all rooms.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 26, 2014, 01:01:28 AM
Fair enough. Now, anymore thoughts on this? ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 26, 2014, 01:17:44 AM
Buddha was a good episode and it is one I can rewatch. I actually ranked this one a few months ago, but some of the details are a little fuzzy for me. :lol: Although this episode kind of bores me a bit too. Jennifer and Tony are yet another team that was first in the moat, first in the Steps, won two pendants in the temple games, and won the temple run. But it was not as impressive as Map to the Lost Gold Mine or Billy the Kid. The moat was pretty hilarious in this episode. The Purple Parrot's first player could not even paddle their raft across before the final team hit their gong. :lol: Seriously, the kid did not even know how to paddle. :? The Steps of Knowledge was close, and it was all about the male players like in RJF's Golden Cricket Cage rankings. The temple games were kind of one-sided though. And it was obvious that it was in favor of the Blue Barracudas. Plus, this episode used some of my least favorite temple games. I don't know how anyone can tell Jennifer and Tony apart because they both looked exactly alike. :lol: The Blue Barracudas were just a better team though. I am surprised that the Red Jaguars boy Ramsey finished with an almost identical score to Jennifer and Tony. :o

Also, I think Jennifer's temple run score is pretty accurate. This was Season 1 so I don't expect too much out of these contestants. Despite being slow, she didn't look too confused and generally knew what she was doing. She did make the detour into the Torch Room and wasted time in the Treasure Room. But most Season 1 contestants made this same mistake too. And at least she actually tried to speed up at the end too. But yeah, she is definitely not on the same level as Tarrah from Freydis. Nor was her win as great as Freydis' win either. And I am not sure why people in the past considered Jennifer the "Best Female Player" either. Is it because her team finished first in each round? Because so did Jeremy and Erika, and everyone criticizes them. I think Jennifer is a good episode, but she is no where as great as other Season 1 girls like Lea, Jennifer (Lost Gold Mine), Tara, and Jennifer (Blue Pearl).

Overall, I agree with your rankings. ;) Both your rankings and my analysis conclude that Jennifer is not the best female player on the show. I am not sure where people got this conclusion from. Tony answered all of the questions in this episode and he was more dominant in the temple games. If he went into the temple first, this might've been Sultan Saladin type win that would've been more impressive. I would recommend this episode to any body, but there are definitely more exciting ones out there.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 26, 2014, 01:22:14 AM
I can't believe I forgot about the tidbit about Jennifer and Tony looking alike. :lol: I also remember Kirk calling Jennifer a "he" in her temple game. Must've been the boys haircut of hers. XD And if you have rankings of Buddha, you should totally post them. It would be interesting to see how our rankings stack up. ;) Total word to everything you said. Jennifer is not as great as people make her out to be, and she is certainly NOT on the same level as Tarrah. As for my next rankings, I should have my rankings up for Atahualpa very soon. That episode was a lot more exciting than Buddha. :mrblue:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 27, 2014, 07:01:41 PM
And I updated more of my chart, I finished up to end of Season 2. I also included RJF's name in the "Blackbeard/Galileo" section of the chart. I don't know why I didn't include it sooner. :lol: An update to TRJ's chart is to come soon too. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 27, 2014, 08:21:26 PM
I see you added your scores for the Buddha team. Thanks for taking care of that. I updated the chart also for RJF's scores for Golden Cricket Cage. ;) I have two weeks left of school, so I will have more time to focus on this topic. I need to make a project like you are doing. Maybe I should go and finish ranking the remaining Red Jaguars teams?
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 27, 2014, 09:51:18 PM
It's up to you really. But if you really want a request, how about taking on all of Missing Eye's day? I know you wanted to do that, and I really want to see your rankings. How would that sound to you? If you don't want to rank them, that's fine too. ;)

EDIT: So I don't double post again, I put N/A for the episodes not ranked yet. I hope that's okay too.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 27, 2014, 10:21:16 PM
Yeah, I really need to find my saved rankings for Missing Eye and Enormous Iron Nose Ring. I know I saved them, but I looked everywhere for them. I don't mind redoing them though since I have those two episodes memorized. And then I can do the more exciting Ahmed Baba.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 27, 2014, 10:51:07 PM
Yeah, I especially can't wait for Ahmed Baba. And Ivory Elephant for that matter. :mrblue: :mrgreen:

But yeah no, I'll update the rest of your chart tonight, at least up to the end of Season 2. The charts will look great once completed. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on April 28, 2014, 06:01:59 PM
I know, double post again. :lol: But the rest of the chart in TRJ's post has been updated. Only Season 3 needs to be put in chart mode. This was surprisingly easy to do, and didn't take as long. So it wasn't nearly as tedious as I thought. All the spacing out between the episode title and names really helped a lot. Let me know if anything is out of place. ;)

You can thank me whenever you'd like, since I did work VERY hard on updating everything. I just hope you appreciate the hard work I do for all these threads and all the updating I do. Since I know you have a very hectic schedule and don't have time for such projects. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 02, 2014, 11:30:17 PM
To continue this thread, here are my rankings of "The Golden Jaguar of Atahualpa." :mrblue:

THE GOLDEN JAGUAR OF ATAHUALPA

Chris:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 6.8

Tracy:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 8
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: 7
Overall: 7.25

Kelly:
Moat: 4
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6

Greg:
Moat: 9
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 10
Team Game: 8
Overall: 8.5

NOTES:

Wow, take a look at Greg's score. :shock: He didn't even make it to the temple, and he made almost a 9 average! Imagine what he would've been like in the temple. As for the rest of the episode, it was easily one of the more exciting Season 1 episodes. Greg was beast during the moat, and he was one of the very few contestants to NOT fall into the water while trying to cross via the overhead rope. His partner Kelly was a little slower getting across, but she didn't have too much trouble either. Her main problem was her immense struggling of throwing the rope across the moat. I know giving her a "4" for the moat is a little harsh, but it took her a long time to properly throw it, and her team was one of the last to cross the moat because of it. But enough about the moat, the temple games were the staple of this episode. Greg had no trouble climbing the mountain, and he was so fast with the climbing it had to have been a record. Chris did an alright job too, but he kept slipping during the game. Both Tracy and Kelly did very well with their "sliding down a slippery chute" game. One of the few games I liked in Season 1. I especially liked Kirk's comment "By the looks of things, you look a bit soapy" at the end of the game. Priceless. :lol: In the third game, Tracy had great aim, and Chris did a good job adjusting his body to catch all the balls. Greg did a great job adjusting his body too, but Kelly seemed like she wasn't even trying in the last game. It seemed like she was taking her time throwing all the balls. Not much else to say except Chris and Tracy came from behind and won the game with a score of 13-11. Of course, this marks the first ever Purple Parrots tiebreaker loss, so the Blue Barracudas naturally rang in correctly, and sealed themselves a trip to the temple. The temple run was pretty exciting, although this would've been a win if Chris never detoured into the Heart Room. I don't hold the "entering the cave the wrong way" bit against him, since that only wasted like, three seconds. But Chris could've easily recorded a solo victory if he never entered the Heart Room. Tracy did a good job covering Chris' tracks once he was taken out. And she did grab the artifact at the last second. But of course, they didn't make it out. This also marks the only time the Blue Barracudas reach an artifact, but don't bring it out in time. Overall, this was an exciting episode and temple run. :mrblue: Just a few mistakes prevented this from being a win.

And there you go. :mrblue: You may or may not agree with these rankings, but I'd say almost all the players ranked well here. Even if it is a little too high. Like always, please give me your feedback. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 03, 2014, 01:02:58 AM
Atahualpa is a great episode and one of the few Season 1 episodes I really like. I actually kind of consider this episode underrated. No one ever really talks about this failed escape run. It was a great episode all the way through. The Blue Barracudas were a good team in the moat, but Kelly of the Purple Parrots struggled. But then again, the objective for that moat was pretty bad too. No one really stood out in the temple games, but they still got the job done. As for the temple games, it looks like the Purple Parrots were stronger. Greg definitely shined in his individual game. He got all three pieces of treasure at the top before 30 seconds even passed. I don't remember though, did Chris really do that bad? I remember this temple game being close. I also liked the belly sliding game, even if it was kind of impossible to win once one player got so far. The Purple Parrots head into the team game with a 1-0 score. Unfortunately, Kelly did not pick up the slack in the final game while Greg did all the work. Robert and Tracy had good synergy going though, and won it to force the tiebreaker. Just like a scenario similar to Annie Taylor, the Blue Barracudas beat the Purple Parrots out for the tiebreaker.  :mrblue:

The temple run is fun, and I totally agree with your scores for Robert and Tracy. Chris was a good frontrunner that made an unfortunate mistake by entering the Heart Room. Had he not done this, then this would've been a solo victory. He still moved fast though and left Tracy with a lot of time. Tracy is a pretty overlooked second runner too. Despite her partner being taken out one room away, she picked up the slack pretty well, got the Silver Monkey put together, and grabbed the Golden Jaguar. Overall, I liked this episode and temple run a lot. One of the few Season 1 episodes I even like. I will even take Atahualpa over Buddha. I agree with your rankings too. ;)  :mrblue: All four players were better than most Season 1 teams, but Tracy and Greg were the stars of their teams.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 03, 2014, 01:10:19 AM
Well, the problem with Chris was he kept on slipping and dropping all his treasure pieces. Had it not been for that, I would've definitely given him a "7" for the temple game. As for the final game, the Purple Parrots could've swept the temple games if Kelly would've put more effort into throwing these balls. But of course, they lose at the tiebreaker. And you're right too, it had the same scenario as Lucky Pillow. Same Steps of Knowledge AND temple games pair, with the Blue Barracudas coming from behind in the third temple game. :mrblue: And I also agree that this episode is underrated. Nobody really talks about it at all, though it used to get talked about A LOT back in the old days of these forums. Like with Chandragupta, this episode should get talked about more. Chris and Tracy were a solid team in the temple. It's also one of the very few Season 1 episodes I even like. ;)

And glad you like my rankings. Now I've got all the Season 1 Blue Barracuda episodes ranked. :mrblue: Tracy and Greg were definitely the stars of their respective teams. I'm not sure what's next for me though. :lol: Maybe I'll rank the first day of Season 2, just like I've promised to.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 03, 2014, 01:17:34 AM
I hate the first production day of Season 2. Good luck with that. All it was just a bunch of mediocre episodes that were also boring. Even the majestic Butch Cassidy. ;) Either that, or maybe you could do the first production day of Season 3? Much better than the first production day of Season 2. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 03, 2014, 01:20:41 AM
The first day of Season 3? Maybe I'll rank Sir Gawain next, since I have that episode pretty much memorized. ;) But the infamous Bifocal Monocle? No thank you. O_O Sir Gawain should be interesting to rank. :mrorange: And it is a MUCH better episode than all of S2L1 put together.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 03, 2014, 01:26:32 AM
Didn't you watch Bifocal Monocle when Teen Nick aired it? ;) But yeah, don't touch that one anyways. It is really wasting your time to do that. :oops: Sir Gawain is an episode that you could probably rank really quick. Probably because you watched it countless times like me.  :lol:  :mrorange:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 03, 2014, 01:35:10 AM
Fortunately for me, I didn't get Teenick when Bifocal Monocle was played on there. ;) I've only seen the full episode twice at most, and I intend on never watching it ever again. :oops: But yeah, Sir Gawain I can totally do from memory. I already have it ranked, it's just a matter of me cutting and pasting them here. Just like I do for all my other reviews. ;) :mrorange:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 09, 2014, 11:28:18 PM
And here it is, my rankings of "The Much-Heralded Helmet of Sir Gawain." :mrorange:

THE MUCH-HERALDED HELMET OF SIR GAWAIN

Tiffani
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 6.8

Jahmel
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 7

Donna
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.5

Josh
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.5

NOTES:

Ah, the episode I've seen many, many times. One of the very first episodes I ever saw, and it was played over and over again during the Nick Gas "20 episode cycle." Despite that, this was still a great episode from beginning to end. :mrorange: The moat was extremely close where 3/4 teams rang in literally at the exact same time. I personally love the moat that was used here, with the swinging steps. It was a very unique concept, and it put a lot of emphasis on teamwork. And none of the teams in this episode struggled very much here. Both the Orange Iguanas and the Purple Parrots were smart on the Steps of Knowledge, besides a wrong answer Tiffani gave. It was kind of funny how Jahmel almost fell over when he rang in to answer the final question. :lol: The temple games featured some close competition between both teams too. Donna was pretty fast in the "jumping on trampolines" game, I actually think I should've given her a higher score there. Tiffani did an alright job, but it seemed like she was taking her sweet time jumping on the trampolines all the way to the top. I also love how Kirk almost calls Donna "Jahmel." He says "Ja-Donna!" Catching himself at the last second. Oh Kirk. The second game was TERRIBLY voiced over, and this was so very obviously the first time the "swinging boulder" game was used. Just look at how sloppily coordinated the boulders were. :roll: Regardless, Jahmel barely edged out Josh 4-3, tying the half pendant scores going into the final game. The Purple Parrots were very sloppy in the third game. They kept on dropping all the cups, and just couldn't sync themselves well enough throughout the whole game. Jahmel and Tiffani had a good rhythm down, and won the final temple game with a whopping 8-3! Looking at these rankings, maybe I should've given them both a 7 or 8 instead of a 6. Regardless, the Orange Iguanas have yet again beat the Purple Parrots, and earned themselves a trip to the temple! The temple run was solid, and Tiffani did a great job in the temple. She may not have been the fastest, but it didn't matter. She knew what to do in every room. And bonus points to her being one of the very few players to get back on the platform. Furthermore, she also smartly used the Shrine/Forest passage, instead of going all the way around the horn. Good thing Tiffani made so many smart moves, since she never ran into any temple guards. The gigantic helmet was picked up with 53 seconds left on the clock, where she grunted trying to haul that thing out of the temple. :lol: After entering the pitch black ledges, she climbed up to the Crypt, and escaped with a solo win with 12 seconds left on the clock! You could definitely tell Tiffani was so exhausted after the temple run was over. She even took her own helmet off too. And why WAS the ledges so dark in the first place? :shock: Seriously, did someone forget to turn on the lights in that room? Overall, this was a great temple run and a well deserved win. I always have mixed feelings about this run. First I like it, then I don't think highly of it, then I like it again. I'm always going back and forth with my opinions on this run, but I happen to like it nonetheless. :mrorange: Though it has worn off on me, since I've seen this episode over a million times.

And there you go. My rankings on the most overplayed episode in Nick Gas history. :mrorange: I hope these rankings are accurate enough, even though I have this whole episode memorized. Thoughts? ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on May 09, 2014, 11:40:41 PM
I don't seem to follow why your score for Tiffani's temple run was an 8, when all you did was praise her performance: "The temple run was solid, and Tiffani did a great job in the temple. She may not have been the fastest, but it didn't matter. She knew what to do in every room. And bonus points to her being one of the very few players to get back on the platform... Overall, this was a great temple run and a well deserved win."


And the lighting in the Ledges was more than likely due to there being a guard stationed there, as was the case in Dried Apple Half of William Tell.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 10, 2014, 12:28:09 AM
Umm.... an "8" is an excellent score to give to someone when they did great in the temple. It's true I could've given her a "9" or a "10," but I felt like that was a little too high. I liked Tiffani and her performance, and I thought she was a great player. An "8" is a perfect and fitting score to give her.
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 10, 2014, 01:08:36 AM
Anywho, anymore comments? Whether you agree or disagree. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 10, 2014, 01:17:08 AM
Here is my Sir Gawain rankings for reference. ;)  :mrorange:

Quote
THE MUCH-HERALDED HELMET OF SIR GAWAIN

Tiffani
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 7.5
Overall: 7.0

Jahmel
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 7.13

Donna
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 7
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.63

Josh
Moat: 7.5
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 7.13

NOTES:
Ah, the episode I have seen so many times. :roll:

To be honest, the Orange Iguanas did not look too impressive in the temple games. In the human maze game, it looked like Tiffani was taking her time to get through the holes. The Purple Parrot girl was not much faster, but she at least was trying a little harder. The second temple game with the boulder was so badly coordinated. I mean the "mace" was not even working half of the time. I guess that was the first time this temple game was used? And finally, the Purple Parrots missed a lot of their cups in the team game. But Tiffani once again messed up the team game because she was taking her time putting the cups into the bucket. Overall though, Orange managed to beat Purple.

And now for the temple run. Tiffani was pretty slow in the temple and she got lucky with her temple guard placement. But she also did many things right in the temple including making it back to the platform and taking the Dark Forest shortcut. And not only that, she dragged that huge ass Helmet out of the temple and still managed to win. Taking all of this into account, she did a solid job in the temple and I gave her a relatively good score.

If you had Nick GaS back in the day, you should know Sir Gawain by heart. And the swinging steps moat was my favorite moat on the show. I like how creative it was and the teamwork aspect of it. And it was still quick too despite it being easy. Although this moat had kind of bad editing. The legend was also one of my favorite on the show too, and the Helmet looked really cool. And it was very big too. :shock: The Steps of Knowledge had some interesting questions and it was pretty good too, minus Tiffani's wrong answer.

The temple games were great and I like how most of them pertained to the legend. In the first temple game, the girls were kind of slow. Tiffani was the slower of the two and Donna kind of had an easy time getting her stained glass window. At least these girls knew how to jump, unlike another episode that day *cough Bifocal Monocle cough* . Jahmel's temple game had the awkward swinging mace, which was all over the place. He was definitely the dominant player that game. And you can tell that the producers were having a hard time coordinating it. Neither team was overly impressive in the team game, but the Orange Iguanas won it in a tight race. Now it is time to "Exit, Stage Left" to the temple run.  :mrorange:

And time for the temple run. I think it is perfectly fitting for Tiffani to get an 8 in the temple. Just because someone praises a contestant doesn't mean they need to get a 10. Tiffani was a great contestant and I am glad she received a high score. Hell, I gave her a 7.5 in the temple. Even if I have seen this run many many many times, it never gets old. Tiffani was a smart contestant including being one of the very few contestants to make it back to the platform and using a shortcut. She did move a little slow, but I can overlook it for the stuff she did earlier. ;) Also, that Helmet was so huge and she really struggled to get it out. Notice how she takes it to the Crypt from the Ledges? At the end of the temple run, you can see her out of breath and she even rips her helmet off. You would think that Kirk or Jahmel would take that huge ass Helmet from her, but they leave her hanging with it. :lol: Tiffani's solo win was great though and it is among my favorite wins from Season 3.  :mrorange:

Overall, I think your scores are great. ;) They are pretty much close to mine. We both agree that Jahmel was better than Tiffani. Also, our score for Donna were almost close too. I love Sir Gawain's episode and I can never hate it. Even if I have seen it a million times too. Every round was a classic and Tiffani was a solid player. ;)  :mrorange:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 10, 2014, 01:37:28 AM
I actually never got Nick Gas back in the day. I only had access to it either through episode downloads, or staying at a family friend's house. Not that it mattered, Sir Gawain was on YouTube back in the day anyways. And what a great episode to watch over and over again. :mrorange: I also remember Kirk and Jahmel NOT taking that huge helmet out of Tiffani's hands. While poor Tiffani here is about to fall apart from being so exhausted post run. :lol: But yeah, Sir Gawain is a great episode. I could never get tired of it either, even though I've seen it a million times. ;)

And thanks, glad you like my rankings. ;) Our rankings are both similar too. What I can't believe is that you remembered what page your rankings of them were on. Since you always seem to forget you even ranked Sir Gawain. :lol: And I forgot to mention "Exit.... Stage left!" again. I did that in the episode review too. :lol: But, most of us know this episode like the back of our hands, so it doesn't really need mentioning anyways. ;) :mrorange:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 10, 2014, 01:50:44 AM
I actually had to use the search function to find it. I am too lazy to go page by page. Although I usually remember when I post these rankings.  :mrorange:

I still remember how Sir Gawain (and Poseidon) were like on every other three days on Nick GaS. :lol: It really did make me hate this episode a little bit. But I love this episode to death either way. The legend was cool and the stain glass part and the temple game that went with it was cool. Speaking of Tiffani, I just read her fake interview where I found a copy of it online. I can't believe I thought that it was real. :lol: The writing was so bad and you can tell someone watched Sir Gawain's episode and pretended to be Tiffani. They basically typed what happened on screen word for word.  :roll:

Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 10, 2014, 02:06:46 AM
Oh yeah, that "Tiffani Milford" interview was so fake. You could tell someone just watched the episode on YouTube, typed what happened on screen word for word, and then sent it to Jon from the Shrine of the Silver Monkey site. Plus, this person basically gave a life story/biography in her "interview," and obviously knows nothing about post production. Where "music was blaring from the set" and "they were filming the steps by the time I got to the studio at 11 AM." What's worse is that even the likes of Jon fell for it too. :roll: :lol:

As for my next set of rankings, I kind of want to rank the Silk Ladder team. Either that and/or King Tut, filmed on the same day. I'm not gonna do all the S1L8 episodes in one sitting, ranking five different episodes is a bit much for me. But I figure since those are some of the most noteworthy episodes, rankings for them are in order. ;) Plus, since I've ranked all the Season 1 Blue Barracuda teams, and Oracle Bowl earlier in this thread, I might as well rank King Tut. It's only fitting, and it would be an incredibly easy job for me. :mrpurple:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 10, 2014, 09:47:54 PM
Robin Hood would be an interesting episode to rank. As much as we diss their win, Jeremy and Erika were actually a good team before the temple run. They were so good that their numbers were identical to Snakeskin Boots. Obviously not as impressive as Kelly and Tony though. ;) It is still a good episode though. Although Jeremy and that piss easy temple win.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll: The rest of S1L8 is good too, except for Mata Hari of cource. That is an episode that is close to being on my black list.  :oops:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 10, 2014, 09:55:54 PM
Yeah, I actually happen to like the rest of the episode. Even though the Purple Parrots lose the temple games, and it had a piss easy win. King Tut is a great episode too. Even Eusinia didn't do so badly pre temple. Hell she even won her individual game, and she beat a guy. :mrpurple: Are there any episodes you want to rank? I think I remember you saying you wanted to rank Golden Jaguar after I did. It will be interesting to see how our rankings stack up, if you do choose to rank Chris and Tracy next. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 11, 2014, 02:58:28 AM
Oh, and I updated both charts again. My chart is now completed. (http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=2324.msg175015#msg175015) And it will only need updating when someone posts some new rankings. And I updated TRJ's chart (http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=2324.msg174000#msg174000) up until Xerxes. I figured I'd update the first part of Season 3, with my recent rankings of Sir Gawain, and the other episodes on Chandragupta's day that have yet to be ranked. Of course, I'll also update TRJ's chart when new rankings come by. Feel free to let me know if I typed anything in wrong. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 18, 2014, 12:45:47 AM
The table with the player comparisons is finally complete! All of the episodes are now part of the table. Credits to PPF/Paintbrush for helping me update the table. Now I can start working more on some of my rankings too. ;)  :mrred:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 18, 2014, 12:49:19 AM
Awesome! Everything looks great. And if you're taking requests, how about at long last work on the whole Enormous Nose Ring's filming day? ;) :mrsilver:

And that's booyouwhore to you, Mr. Stone Marker. :lol:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 05, 2014, 11:30:58 PM
I think it's time to bump/revive this thread after about 4 months of activity. And this time, it's Silver Horseshoe's filming day.

THE SILVER HORSESHOE OF BUTCH CASSIDY

Paula:
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6

Matt:
Moat: 8 (It was a unique way of crossing, but it wasn't THAT impressive)
Steps of Knowledge: 10
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7
Tiebreaker: +1
Temple Run: N/A
Overall: 7.75

Wendy:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 7
Overall: 7

Terry:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.5

NOTES:

Honestly, this episode was just average in every aspect, "Comeback Kid" story arc or not. For the moat, the players had cross a series of zig zagging ropes. Basically, something you'd see in a Season 1 moat. Paula sucked crossing it. She took her sweet old time getting across, and she looked on the verge of falling into the water the entire time. When it was Matt's turn to make it across, he REALLY hauled ass to get that last place spot. He was hanging upside down and crawling across the ropes as if they were polls. The same manner you would for Lucky Pillow and Applewood Amulet's moat. For the Steps of Knowledge, Matt swept the steps for the Orange Iguanas before any of the choices were revealed. That's about the last impressive thing he does all episode. Likewise, Wendy of the Purple Parrots answered all the questions for her team, and joined the Orange Iguanas on the final step not long after. The temple games were interesting at least, for a variety of different reasons. Paula and Terry were pretty fast in the swinging obstacle temple game, a game you'd see a lot in Season 2. They both moved very swiftly collecting all the bags. This is probably the only time I saw Paula "excel" at any round. And even then, Terry still manage to beat her. On the other hand, Matt and Wendy did dreadfully in the rotating levers game. I realize this was the first time this game was used, but neither Matt or Wendy could get a rhythm down for anything. As a result, Wendy just barely beat the "great" Matt. For the third game, I gave both Paula and also Terry a lower score. The latter moreso because he fell off the horse very early into the round. Either way, Paula and Matt "won" their third game, answered the tiebreaker question right, (at least Matt did), and won a trip to the temple. Of course, the Parrots always lose when it's an easy layout. *bitter* The temple run is way overrated. While Paula moved through the temple at a decent pace, she wasn't THAT great. Every room she entered had the easiest of tasks to accomplish. She grabs the artifact with 1:25 left on the clock, and escapes with 53 seconds to spare. That time would've been 30-40 seconds shorter if Medusa's Lair had not been a late shipment. Overall, an undeserved win and completely average episode.

THE SECRET BATTLE PLAN OF NATAHAN HALE

James:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 8
Overall: 7

Christina:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 6.2

Kevin:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 8
Team Game: 5
Overall: 6.75

Stacey:
Moat: 5
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 6
Overall: 5.75

NOTES:

While this episode did suck, I'd be lying if I said this was uneventful. As we all know, everything sans temple run was taped in S2L1 format. So obviously, we get to see the "zig zagging ropes" again. Both James and Christina crossed the moat pretty swiftly, and were the first team to finish. The Green Monkeys lagged behind and just barely rang in last. During the Steps of Knowledge, both Christina and Kevin of the Green Monkeys answered all their questions for their teams. Kevin's final answer was particularly long. I forgot how his answer went, but it had to be by far THE longest answer given in the shows history. The temple games were average for the most part. A few notes I want to point out that doesn't have anything to do with the competition itself. First of all, we see the Battle Plan in the Throne Room during the temple games. When Olmec reveals the artifact location, he says in a poorly voiced over voice "Shrine of the Silver Monkey." Obviously the artifact was intended for the Throne Room, but once the layout changed, it was moved to the Shrine at the last second. Which I thought was stupid. Couldn't they just leave it in that room space, and put/leave it in the Laser Light Room come temple run? Second of all, Christina was MAJORLY screwed in the second temple game. One of her letter pieces for the "Attack Philadelphia" sign was aligned the wrong way. But she still got the piece nonetheless. Kirk, being the oh so hosting genius/spotter he really is, doesn't count it. Ruling the game in favor of the Green Monkeys. The temple game should've been a tie, but Kirk once again didn't catch that. If he did, the Silver Snakes would've beat the Green Monkeys 2-0.5 instead of 1.5-0.5. Neither team was impressive in the third game, using the rotating levers once again. Somehow, the Silver Snakes squeak out a win and earn themselves a trip to the temple. Also, Kevin had to be by far THE tallest contestant in the history of the show. He was taller than Kristen from Priceless Portrait and Brandon from Bone Necklace even. :shock: Despite the unfair second game, I doubt Christina would've been able to beat that tall beast of a player anyways. Stacey sucked, which is why the Green Monkeys didn't go to the temple in the first place. And the temple run was a complete disaster. All you need to know is that the temple layout is now in S2L5, and Christina wouldn't know how to look for a half pendant if it bit her in the ass. Easily the worst triple capture ever.

THE GOLDEN STALLION OF ALI BABA

CJ:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 7.2

Kendra:
Moat: 8
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 6
Overall: 6.8

Jonathan:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 3
Team Game: 7
Overall: 6.25

Shannon:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 5
Team Game: 6
Overall: 6.25

NOTES:

So boring. Absolutely nothing happens in this episode whatsoever. But there are still a few things I want to point out. First of all, the Red Jaguars got gypped on the Steps of Knowledge. They gave a perfectly reasonable answer, yet Olmec STILL counts it as incorrect. I guess this show was still stuck in Season 1 mode. :roll: If it's one positive thing I can say though, both the Orange Iguanas and the Silver Snakes were extremely smart on the Steps. Most of their questions asked were answered before the choices were even revealed. Both teams pretty much double swept the whole round. The temple games featured an interesting set up of games used, but there was very little competition. Both Kendra and Jonathan sucked in the "swing out and drop balls in a bunch of holes" game. Neither of them got a good rhythm down, and Jonathan was just embarrassingly sloppy. He kept dangling from the swing and losing balls. Still, both players managed to tie that game. Both CJ and Shannon had the "squirting game," but this time, you had to actually memorize the sequence of which a hole sprung a leak. This version was also used in the Sacred Ring episode. I personally like this game better than in Lucky Pillow and Nostradamus. So therefore, I actually scored the players here this time. CJ ended up beating Shannon 7-4, so those were around the same scores I gave them here. Only I gave Shannon one extra point because I thought a "4" would be a little too low. Nothing to say about the third temple game except CJ and Kendra won it. The Orange Iguanas really got screwed in this temple run. Something was seriously wrong with that Throne Room door. So as a result, we get another "Dead Man's Hand" esque run where the players spend the whole run running back and forth between the same rooms due to faulty doors. Not that I blame Kendra and CJ here, this truly was not their fault. In fact, I think this potential production error was worse than War Fan. What a shame too, they probably could've won if it hadn't been for that. Oh yeah, and Kirk doesn't know how to pay attention. When CJ gets removed from the temple, he doesn't notice it until about three seconds later. Hello, these kids are on a time limit. :roll: So as a result, this delays Kendra a little bit. Either way, this whole episode was just uneventful.

THE SILVER CANNONBALL OF GRANDY NANNY

Jonathan:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 9
Individual Game: 7
Team Game: 7
Temple Run: 4
Overall: 6.6

Amber:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: N/A
Team Game: 4
Temple Run: 3
Overall: 4.75

Sammy:
Moat: 6
Steps of Knowledge: 8
Individual Game: 6
Team Game: 4
Overall: 6

Debby:
Moat: 7
Steps of Knowledge: 6
Individual Game: N/A
Team Game: 3
Overall: 5.3

NOTES:

Why must all these early Season 2 episodes suck so bad? :oops: This episode was both horrible and had terrible editing. And Kirk for some reason is still a little too obsessed with his Season 1 hosting. Evident in how he keeps trying to announce both the moat and temple games. And all of that and the poor editing throughout this episode is what led us to believe that THIS was the first Season 2 episode. Pre production order reveal of course. Anyways, the only positive thing I can even say about this episode is that Jonathan was at least smart on the Steps of Knowledge. He got all his answers right before the choices were even revealed. Sammy of the Red Jaguars was also smart and answered all the questions for his team. In fact, and I hate to admit this, but Jonathan actually didn't do too badly pre temple. Hell he's the only one to even rank higher than a 6.5 average. But what stops me from taking him seriously was his ADD antics. Running around the arena after winning his game, and taking his helmet off and throwing it into the air at the end of the round. Chillax kid. :roll: Other than that, the temple games were nothing special. Both Amber and Debbie had the squirting game, like in the previous episode. But they had the latter game where you just guess where the next leak will spring, so neither of them get scored this time around. Both teams were absolutely pathetic in the third temple game. Neither team could knock down a soldier if their lives depended on it. The Red Jaguars don't knock one down until after the game ends. The Orange Iguanas somehow knocked two down, winning that game and also sweeping the temple games. The temple run sucked. Jonathan tried for a direct path, and Amber had no sense of direction whatsoever. Their time ran out in the Shrine. The hyperactive kids lost at the temple. Too bad, so sad. This episode was just painful to watch all around.

Wow, Season 2 really got off to a terrible start. :shock: I mean, Silver Horseshoe was a win, but even that wasn't very impressive. Thankfully, this season gets MUCH better as it goes along. I know I picked a terrible day to rank, but nobody has touched this yet since THK did back when we had the database crash. So I thought I might fill in that gap. Overall, here's how I'd rank them altogether:

Silver Horseshoe >>>>> Golden Stallion >>>> Secret Battle Plan >>>>>>>>> Silver Cannonball

Truth be told, I don't like any of these episodes. But there you have it. It's been a while since anyone has tackled on any sort of rankings. So I might as well be the one to revive this thread. :P I haven't seen this show in a few months, so I hope these rankings are accurate. If you feel like they aren't feel free to let me know. Either way, feedback on this set of rankings would be very much appreciated. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 07, 2014, 01:14:00 AM
The first day of Season 2 was pretty bland and disappointing compared to the rest of the season. It was also pretty much an Orange Iguana only day too.  :mrorange:

First we start off with Butch Cassidy, also known as the second fastest female win and the win better than Annie Taylor, Milk Bucket, and Sir Gawain. Probably one of the most overrated episodes on the show. But it was still the best episode that day, if that says anything. The main theme in this episode is Paula and Matt scraping by every round -- also known as the "comeback kids" team. I have to admit that Matt's moat crossing was pretty clever. I wish there were more moats where the kids could cross more than one way. I might've given Paula a 4 though since she kind of almost blew it. The Steps of Knowledge was pretty short. Matt swept the steps and Wendy did the same thing for her team. The temple games piss me off though. The Purple Parrots won their individual games, and then it came down to the team game where the teams had to ride the spinning horse. Terry was kind of sad because he didn't last long, but the main thing that I felt was controversial was Paula not being called out for falling off. On one hand, it did look like she beat the timer. On the other hand, it was a close call. Couldn't they review it? I mean they made a big deal about Christina's temple game in the next episode, but don't bother having a second pair of eyes? Well, it came down to a tiebreaker and Matt answered it correctly. *throws confetti every where* :mrorange:

The temple win is so lame and probably my most hated on after Shaka Zulu. Paula's path was very generous and people that praise t more than Annie Taylor or Sir Gawain needs to really watch it. Every room she entered was a hit the actuator room. There was no challenge to it at all. Yet Applewood Amulet gets maligned to hell even though Jonathan and Olivia had all the tough rooms on their path? Such an overrated team and I don't see what people are trying to accomplish by praising them over actual deserving players.

Nathan Hale was pretty bad episode, but I honestly don't hate it as much as other people. Only the temple run is the really bad part. Neither team was impressive though. I don't remember much of the earlier rounds because I haven't seen this episode in a while. I definitely remember Kevin though being taller than Polynesian Girl's Kristen and Shem from Bandit Queen. :P And for his really long answer in the Steps. The temple games were a mess though. First off, you can clearly see the Secret Battle Plan in the Throne Room. Then we had the "Attack Philadelphia" game trouble too. In the temple game, Kevin and Christina had to spell out "Attack Philadelphia" by placing them in order. At the end when Kirk was counting the letters up, he takes away Christina "IL" because it was upside-down. Yet, no where in the rules did it mention that the words had to be positioned properly. In my book it was fine and I felt that she got shafted there. And it would bite them in the ass later. But at the same time, the temple run triple capture is completely her fault. Christina passed up the half-pendant that James signaled to her, Kirk also signaled to her, and it was in plain sight! She didn't even go back to look for it. :roll: I would've given her a 2 in the temple. Overall, this was the worst triple capture ever on the show IMO. Although I don't really mind this episode at all aside from the bad editing and temple run.

Golden Stallion was a pretty bland episode like the previous ones. I really can't say much here because I have only seen the full episode 2-3 times. I definitely remember the lame legend though. Open Pumpernickel? Open Sunflower Seeds?... really? -_- I also liked the rare version of the "squirting game" where the players had to memorize the sequence instead of randomly guessing like Missy's temple game in "Annie Taylor". That is how the game should've been, but I don't think they used it that much because it was pretty slow. The temple run was disappointing, but it is not CJ and Kendra's fault. This temple run reminds me EXACTLY of "Dead Man's Hand" too. CJ and Kendra got shafted by the Throne Room door. When CJ is in the Throne Room, he starts spinning the Throne around and the temple guard captures him and it stops the chair. The chair then fully rotates itself and only the Heart Room door opens. You don't even see the Swamp door open. Unfortunately, CJ and Kendra have no luck in the central shaft. Kendra eventually notices the Swamp was open, but too much time was lost before she figured it out. Overall, these two got shafted in the temple and I would've given them a second chance. But they moved a little slow too so I think their temple scores are perfect.

Grandy Nanny is a horrible episode that was played way too much on Nick GaS. Jonathan the Gangster and his partner in crime were both lost causes. They failed miserably in the temple, yet somehow they were good before the temple run. Jonathan swept the SoK and then they swept the Jaguars in the temple games. All of these players looked short too, so I guess it was no surprise that Jonathan and Amber swept. The temple run was a disaster. Jonathan was slow and clueless and wasted too much time getting to the King's Storeroom. Amber didn't know what she was doing either and kept backtracking. Her time ended in the Shrine where she literally met her last guard. :roll: It is no surprise to see all of the kids rank low in this episode. Although Jonathan still got a good score because he was actually decent pre-temple rounds. Imagine if this team had a Stone Head layout with four snakes Medusa's Lair? It would've been a Golden Cricket Cage run where 4 rooms were entered in 3 minutes. :shock:

Overall, this was a very bland production day. Luckily I only had to review Golden Stallion in our episode review thread. I could not sit through this production day when it comes to player rankings. So I have to give you kudos for that. ;) And I agree with your rankings too. There is really no stand out player or team that day. And no, Paula and Matt is not the best team ever Youtube. :roll: This is how I would rank the episodes:

Butch Cassidy >>>>> Golden Stallion > Nathan Hale >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grandy Nanny
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 07, 2014, 01:29:43 AM
Any requests for what I should do next? I was thinking either King Tut and/or Stone Marker. But if you have any requests, I'll do them. ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 07, 2014, 01:32:57 AM
Stone Marker, now that is a random request. :lol: I really want to see you rank Golden Cricket Cage, not because I want to torture you, but I really want to see how you rank the Purple Parrots in that episode. ;) I mean you don't even have to bother with the temple run part because we all know that John and Tia will get 1's. I guess not in this lifetime for that episode.  :lol:

I say Cobra Staff would be interesting though. I could've sworn you ranked it though? I guess that was PP319. I love that episode though and totally would support that ranking. ;)  :mrpurple:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 07, 2014, 01:38:09 AM
I meant to say Silk Ladder, but Stone Marker just slipped out. I guess you inspired me a little too much. Thanks for that. :lol: I wouldn't mind taking on either one of those episodes though. After all, I did rank the Paintbrush episode a while back, didn't I? ;)

And man, I don't know about Cricket Cage. :shock: I suppose I can still rank it, albeit just going by the rankings you and RJF did on them. I know that's kind of cheating, but I'm sure it wouldn't make too much difference. And both PP319 and THK ranked King Tut. Since I've ranked all of the Season 1 Blue Barracuda runs, why not take on the "other" Season 1 Purple Parrot run. I've already done Oracle Bowl, so ranking King Tut will take no time at all. I'll definitely do that one next, since it's one of the better Season 1 episodes. ;) :mrpurple:
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 07, 2014, 01:44:50 AM
And I am wondering what THK was thinking of giving John a 3 in the temple. This is the same kid who backtrack to the Cave of Sighs when the direct path didn't work. -_- He spent half of the run covering 4 rooms - something that both Golden Ship kids did while still having plenty of time to move forward. A 3 should be for players like Billy from Lost Hammer. :roll:

But yeah, I say do Cobra Staff next. It is easier to rank individual episodes too in my mind. I haven't given up on these yet and want to do them again in the future.  ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 07, 2014, 01:49:05 AM
Yeah, John deserves a 1, period. Even if I weren't to "cheat" in the rankings, I'd still give him (and Tia of course) a 1. But yeah, I'll definitely do King Tut next. I also agree that it's much easier to rank one episode, instead of a whole production day worth. It's a lot of work. :lol: And I'd love to see your rankings too. Are there any episodes you had in mind doing next? ;)
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 07, 2014, 01:52:22 AM
Here are some episodes I am interested in doing:

- Silver Saddle Horn
- Silk Ladder  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
- Cracked Crown (since I have seen that episode so many times -_- )
- Stone Head (Heather and Tony aren't as bad people make them out to be)
- Milk Bucket
- Bandit Queen
- Belle Boyd
Title: Re: Individual Ranking System
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on September 07, 2014, 01:57:50 AM
I thought you already did Stone Head and Cracked Crown. Unless you want to rank them again. And I personally thought Tony and Heather were a terrible team, even despite their temple game dominance. And if you meant Billy the Kid, you've also ranked that before too, same with Milk Bucket.

EDIT: And both charts have been updated to include my recent rankings.