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Title: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on June 15, 2011, 05:15:44 PM
Trying to figure out where the half pendant was hidden in all of the episodes in which the team took 1 1/2 pendants to the temple. I have almost all of seasons 2 and 3 done. Season 1 needs some serious help, though. If you find one in any episode on the list that doesn't have a half-pendant location specified, post a screenshot of it.

THE LIST

SEASON 1

The Golden Cup of Belshazzar
Galileo's Cannonball
The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan
Elizabeth I's Golden Ship: Most likely in the Heart Room
The Star of Sultan Saladin
The Trojan Horseshoe: Golden Idols/Shrine actuator
The Lost Logbooks of Magellan
The Moccasins of Geronimo
Henry VIII's Great Seal: Hanging from Dungeon-Pirate's Cove Ladder
The Lucky Pig of Amelia Earhart: Hanging from Dungeon-Pirate's Cove Ladder
The Treasure Map of Jean Lafitte: most likely in the Heart Room
The Stolen Arm of Shiva: The base for the monkey in the Shrine
The Stone Marker of Leifr Eiriksson
The Mask of Shaka Zulu
The Silver Saddle Horn of Hannibal
Alexander and the Gordian Knot: The base for the monkey in the Shrine
King Tut's Cobra Staff: Treasure Room/Shrine actuator
The Codebook of Mata Hari: The base for the monkey in the Shrine
Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat: Sitting on the throne in the Throne Room
The Snake Bracelet of Cleopatra: Most likely in the Room of the Fallen Columns
The Treasure of Anne Bonny: Throne Room ladder

SEASON 2

The Secret Battle Plan of Nathan Hale: Pit/Observatory actuator
The Walking Stick of Harriet Tubman: Most likely in the Swamp
The Lost Love Letter of Captain John Smith: Inactive Storeroom/Shrine actuator
The Cracked Crown of the Spanish King: Swamp/Dark Forest actuator
The Applewood Amulet of Emiliano Zapata: Pit/Medusa's Lair actuator
The Missing Eye of David: Medusa's Lair (exact location within room not shown; most likely on inactive actuator)
The Enormous Iron Nose Ring of Babe: Troubled Bridge/Observatory actuator
The Very Tall Turban of Ahmed Baba: Rock Quarry/Laser Light Room actuator
The Sacred Ring of Sultan Suleiman: Troubled Bridge/Observatory actuator
The Plumed Headdress of Cosa Rara: Rock Quarry/Laser Light Room actuator
The Lost Lion Tail of Little John: Swamp/Dark Forest actuator
The Crown of Queen Nzinga: Swamp/Dark Forest actuator
The Two Cornered Hat of Napoleon: Rock Quarry/Laser Light Room actuator
The Golden Goblet of Attila the Hun: Pit/Medusa's Lair actuator
The Golden Pepperoni of Catherine de Medici: Pit/Laser Light Room actuator
The Levitating Dog Leash of Nostradamus: Pit/Laser Light Room actuator
The Priceless Portrait of the Polynesian Girl: Pit/Observatory actuator

SEASON 3

The Bifocal Monocle of One Eyed Jack: Ankle of camera-right Headless King
The Much Heralded Helmet of Sir Gawain: Above the left column of markers in the Chamber
The Lion Headed Bracelet of Chandragupta: In or behind a pot in the Storeroom
The Lion Slashed Jacket of Sacajawea: Above the left column of markers in the Chamber
The Snow Cone of Mt. Kilimanjaro: Jester's Court/Dark Forest Door
The Bent Shaving Pan of Jedediah Smith: Jester's Court/Dark Forest Door
The Marble Armrest of Xerxes: Jester's Court/Dark Forest Door
The Golden Spider Web of Robert the Bruce: Above Pit/Storeroom door
The Ivory Hunting Horn of Roland: Left-hand wall of Chamber
The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain: Behind a pot in the Storeroom
The Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King: Above the left column of markers in the Chamber
The Lost Taj Mahal Turban of Aurangzeb: Above Pit/Chamber door
The Melted Head of Madame Tussaud: Behind a pot in the Storeroom
The Jeweled Scabbard of Sforza: Above Pit/Headless Kings door
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 15, 2011, 05:39:52 PM
The half-pendant for "the Enormous Iron Nose Ring of Babe" can be found on the Observatory actuator. You can see it when Joel exits the temple.

"The Codebook of Mata Hari" half-pendant was on the Shrine of the Silver Monkey's base. You can see it when the boy tries to assemble the monkey and he places it to the side. It is also found in "Alexander and the Gordian Knot" and "the Stolen Arm of Shiva" at the same place.

Also, the half-pendant definitely was not by the Heart Room door in "the Trojan Horseshoe".
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 15, 2011, 05:44:59 PM

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Here's a screencap from "the Trojan Horseshoe". I don't see the half-pendant anywhere in that run?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on June 15, 2011, 06:23:10 PM
The half-Pendant in "Chandragupta" was definitely in the King's Storeroom, and I'm on the "It was IN the pot" team on that one. :P

Otherwise, while I have no real proof, I'm willing to guess the half-Pendant in "Elizabeth I's Golden Ship" was on an actuator in the Cave of Sighs.  That would explain why we wouldn't see it, but the contestants still could have encountered it when they needed it.  Alternatively, it might have been on the Heart-Room-to-Room-of-Golden-Idols actuator for the same reasons.

May I request a good-quality screencap for "The Bifocal Monocle of One-Eyed Jack," by the way? I've never been able to make out the alleged half-Pendant in the Tomb of the Headless Kings. :?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Toltendo on June 15, 2011, 07:05:18 PM
Hopefully you guys don't forget about this topic as well:

http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=1591.0 (http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=1591.0)
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 15, 2011, 07:18:15 PM
I just noticed that the King's Storeroom door from the Pit opened in "the Snowcone of Mount Kilimanjaro". Not saying that the half-pendant was located up there, but I bet the last guard at least was located in one of the two column rooms. ;)

All of those season one episodes locations though for the half-pendant beats me though. I have watched some of those runs many times and have not seen the half-pendant at all. It makes you wonder if they even had the half-pendant hidden in those runs.  :roll:
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on June 15, 2011, 08:24:19 PM

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Here's a screencap from "the Trojan Horseshoe". I don't see the half-pendant anywhere in that run?




It's at the bottom-left corner of the door.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 15, 2011, 08:46:40 PM
I just watched a video of that episode on Youtube and that does not look like the half-pendant. If it is, then what is it hanging from? I don't think the string the pendant is hanging from is long enough to reach the actuator like that. To me, it looks like wall texture.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on June 15, 2011, 08:59:42 PM
On second thought, it IS part of the wall:




(Screenshot from Elizabeth I's Golden Ship)

However, I think I found it. Look closely when Shawn enters the Spider's Lair with the Horseshoe. I think that's the half-pendant hanging from the actuator.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 15, 2011, 09:04:04 PM
So I guess the half-pendant in The Trojan Horseshoe run is a run up for discussion. I have no idea where it could be. Heck, I don't even know where the half-pendant is for all these episodes where it's up for discussion. Good luck.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 15, 2011, 09:08:22 PM
However, I think I found it. Look closely when Shawn enters the Spider's Lair with the Horseshoe. I think that's the half-pendant hanging from the actuator.

For the bottom door on the right? I think I see it too.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on June 15, 2011, 10:01:40 PM
Don't we have another topic based on same thing?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 15, 2011, 10:08:05 PM
Yep:

Hopefully you guys don't forget about this topic as well:

http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=1591.0 (http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=1591.0)
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 15, 2011, 10:33:43 PM
We might as well lock this thread then. Since this is just a duplicate.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 16, 2011, 01:52:15 AM
I think keeping a new thread around wouldn't be such a bad idea. It would be a fresh new thread to try and bring more discussion back to the forum. We could always use the old thread for reference and so on.

Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on July 27, 2011, 05:10:45 AM
Hear me out on this one. I am 100% positive that the hidden half-pendant for "The Walking Stick of Harriet Tubman" was on an actuator for one of the doors leading from the Swamp to the Dark Forest, but the frontrunner never signaled it.

The pattern for hidden half-pendants in Season 2 is pretty much obvious. It was always on an actuator somewhere.

Now then, given that, we have to assume that it would have been hidden just short of the second guard in sequence OR between the 2nd and 3rd guards in sequence. Now we know the guard sequence from watching the episode: Crypt, Throne Room, Shrine.

Therefore, it must have been hidden on the Pit/Throne Room door actuator, or on a Swamp/Dark Forest door actuator. And, because you can clearly see that it was not on the Pit/Throne Room actuator, then it MUST HAVE been on a Swamp/Dark Forest actuator.

Case Closed!


P.S. The location given for the hidden half-pendant in the episode "The Bifocal Monocle of One-Eyed Jack is incorrect!

The Bifocal Monocle of One Eyed Jack: Wrist of camera-left Headless King

The correct location for the half-pendant is on top of the base of the camera-right Headless King. The Clock covers it up as the 2nd runner descends from the Chamber, but it was there. I've taken a screencap from the episode and circled the half-pendant in red for The Ancient Warrior, since he requested it. Here it is TAW:


Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on July 27, 2011, 06:15:52 AM
I'm sorry, but with that kind of quality, you're not going to convince me that's a half-Pendant instead of part of the room decoration.  I still don't think there was even a half-Pendant in that room.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on July 27, 2011, 11:40:49 AM
It has to be. Thomas clearly reached for something on the camera-right Headless King.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 27, 2011, 12:06:48 PM
Yeah, I think that is the half pendant as well.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on July 27, 2011, 12:23:48 PM
It has to be. Thomas clearly reached for something on the camera-right Headless King.
Right! And then the camera cuts to him putting it onto his wrist. The Producers probably used that stand that they used for the Season 3 King's Storeroom to prop the half-pendant up on the Headless King's base.

If I had a higher quality episode, I'd provide a better screencap. So sorry for that, TAW! :(

Also, TSM, I'd say that the One-Eyed Jack half-pendant was more at the foot of the Headless King, and not on his lap. But I digress.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 27, 2011, 01:05:25 PM
You can tell he has both half pieces with him in the credits. There is one half-pendant on each of his wrists, so he had to fine them somewhere in the temple.

While I do believe the half-pendant in Harriet Tubman could be in the Swamp, it is hard to tell because we never get a good shot of either door to the Swamp.

I really wish the season one runs though didn't have impossible half-pendant locations. Its kind of sad we only know where 4-5 of them are in that season...
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on July 27, 2011, 01:17:33 PM
Found the hidden half-pendant in "The Ivory Hunting Horn of Roland"!

It was in the Chamber of the Sacred Markers:

Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 27, 2011, 01:20:07 PM
Good find! That is definitely the half-pendant in "the Ivory Hunting Horn of Roland". You can clearly see it as Yakerra is running out of the King's Storeroom.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 27, 2011, 02:57:55 PM
Yup, I was watching the Ivory Hunting Horn episode last night. And the half pendant was most certainly there. And I agree with everyone about the Bifocal Monocle half pendant location. It HAD to be a half pendant. Thomas had both halves at the end of the run. Definitely in the Tomb, Thomas definitely grabbed. So I also disagree with you, TAW. :|

Also, what about the Star of Sultan Saladin? I'm pretty I saw a half pendant here:

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^ The red square looks like a half pendant to me. If that isn't a half pendant, I don't know what is. Sorry about the small screencap too. I don't know how to make them bigger.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 27, 2011, 04:01:08 PM
Actually PPF, I think that's the door's decoration. Watch The Oracle Bowl of Delphi. The PPs won a full 2 pendants and the frontrunner entered the Room of the H.C. from the Wheel Room. If you look at the top of the door, it's clearly some sort of decoration on the door.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on July 27, 2011, 04:21:41 PM
Okay, fine, I'm convinced after rewatching the "Bifocal Monocle" run.  I don't know, maybe I've just been pretty skeptical because of how many "discoloration" claims have been thrown around in the past. :P

PP319 is right about the Throne Room door, though— that looks more like a handle of some kind.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on July 27, 2011, 04:39:46 PM
Actually, what PPF circled is the loop for the latch mechanism that keeps the door locked until the hook releases and the door opens. Just watch it as the door swings open, and you'll see a loop of metal sticking out right where PPF  circled.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on July 27, 2011, 04:44:02 PM
Well, I realized it was metal when I watched it.  I just wasn't sure what it was aside from "obviously if that were a hinge that'd be on the wrong side." :lol:
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on July 27, 2011, 05:31:37 PM
Just found the half-pendant for The Melted Head of Madame Tussaud. It's in the same place as The Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King's.

Not surprising, since they were filmed on the same day.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Headless King on July 27, 2011, 06:00:44 PM
No, The Mummified Hand had the half-pendant hanging above the left-side markers in The Chamber of the Sacred Markers.  In The Melted Head, we can clearly see it's not there.

Unless you're thinking of somewhere else, in which case I'd really like to know.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on July 27, 2011, 07:27:00 PM
I agree with THK on this one. I do not see it in the Chamber of the Sacred Markers as TSM is claiming it is.

Also, I must post a correction to my "Walking Stick of Harriet Tubman" theory. The corrected part is in bold in the quote below:
The pattern for hidden half-pendants in Season 2 is pretty much obvious. It was always on an actuator somewhere.
The original sentence was not fully completed the first time I posted it.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on July 27, 2011, 07:35:47 PM
Now, as for the episode "The Star of Sultan Saladin", I have the following to say.

I have narrowed down the possibilities for hiding places for the hidden half-pendant to 1 of 2 locations, but each one is contingent on where the last Temple guard was:

1. If the 3rd guard was in the Heart Room, then the half-pendant would have most likely been in the Spider's Lair somewhere.
2. If the 3rd guard was in the Room of 3 Torches, then I'm thinking that the half-pendant was hung on the Ladder from the Dungeon to The Room of 3 Torches. (too bad we never got a glimpse of that ladder)
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Headless King on July 27, 2011, 09:22:03 PM
My thoughts on The Melted Head of Madame Tussaud is that I think it was in one of the King's Storeroom pots, like in the Lion-Headed Bracelet.  The thing is that considering the way Nick smashed the pots, it probably would have flown across the room if it was there.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on July 28, 2011, 02:56:36 AM
My thoughts on The Melted Head of Madame Tussaud is that I think it was in one of the King's Storeroom pots, like in the Lion-Headed Bracelet.  The thing is that considering the way Nick smashed the pots, it probably would have flown across the room if it was there.
I'm thinking that it was propped up in front of the Brown pot that the camera did not show Nicholas knock over.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Headless King on July 28, 2011, 11:25:14 AM
I'm very sure it wasn't in front of the pot, otherwise we would have seen it's shadow like in The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 28, 2011, 12:04:08 PM
I'm very sure it wasn't in front of the pot, otherwise we would have seen it's shadow like in The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain.

I'm watching The Lost Hornpipe temple run right now and I can't see the half pendant in the King's Storeroom. Can someone post a pic and circle the half pendant in red?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Headless King on July 28, 2011, 01:19:28 PM
Well, the half-pendant is really hard to see during the temple run.  In fact, the only reason we know it's there is because they do a close-up of it in the credits.






And this is what I was talking about that we can see the half-pendant's shadow.


Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 28, 2011, 01:31:39 PM
How in the world did they get it to stand like that? :shock:
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Bandit King on July 28, 2011, 02:18:36 PM
How in the world did they get it to stand like that? :shock:
Maybe they had Velcro on the pot. :lol:
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on July 29, 2011, 05:16:56 AM
How in the world did they get it to stand like that? :shock:
Maybe they had Velcro on the pot. :lol:
No, the half pendant was on a stand that was velcroed to the pedestal. You can see the black knob of the top of the stand above the top of the half-pendant in the screencap THK uploaded. It moved with the half-pendant if you watch the clip.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 29, 2011, 03:54:36 PM
As far as the half pendant in Sultan Saladin goes, you were right. I guess that was some pattern on the Throne Room door or something. I noticed the very same pattern in The Lost Logbooks of Magellan. Well, at least that's what I saw in the screencap in the "Episode Pictures" game thread the other day. Interesting note about half pendant in the Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain. I always wondered how they got it to stand up like that too.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Headless King on July 29, 2011, 04:50:17 PM
I think this is where the half-pendant was in The Missing Eye of David:




It might just be the inactive actuator, but considering it has a brown-ish color, I really think it's the half-pendant hanging from the actuator.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on July 29, 2011, 04:52:07 PM
While I'm not 100% sure you've actually circled it, I always had a feeling it was there anyway.  I think it'd make less sense to hide it somewhere else in the room, at least.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Headless King on July 29, 2011, 05:01:36 PM
While I'm not 100% sure you've actually circled it, I always had a feeling it was there anyway.  I think it'd make less sense to hide it somewhere else in the room, at least.
I don't understand what you mean by that.  :?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on July 30, 2011, 04:10:15 AM
I think this is where the half-pendant was in The Missing Eye of David:




It might just be the inactive actuator, but considering it has a brown-ish color, I really think it's the half-pendant hanging from the actuator.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you circled the outcropping that led to the (then inactive) actuator for the downward door. Just watch the 3rd Temple guard capture from Suleiman to see what I mean. The outcropping will appear just left of the temple diagram with 45 seconds left on the clock.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on August 01, 2011, 05:10:06 AM
I think that I found the half-pendant from "The Trojan Horseshoe", but I'll never have enough video evidence to prove it.

If you watch the run, right before Lucretia presses the actuator for the door from the Room of the Golden Idols, she fiddles with something in the immediate vicinity of that actuator. It is my belief that she fiddled with the half-pendant before realizing that it wasn't hers to take.

Does anyone else agree with me on this?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on August 01, 2011, 10:21:13 AM
I think that I found the half-pendant from "The Trojan Horseshoe", but I'll never have enough video evidence to prove it.

If you watch the run, right before Lucretia presses the actuator for the door from the Room of the Golden Idols, she fiddles with something in the immediate vicinity of that actuator. It is my belief that she fiddled with the half-pendant before realizing that it wasn't hers to take.

Does anyone else agree with me on this?

I think you might be right. If you watch carefully, both of her hands were going for that actuator. I think that means the half pendant was on the actuator. It would also make sense to put it there because after Shawn grabbed the horseshoe, you can see the headdress of a temple guard in the bog of the Spider's Lair, meaning this room was a dead end and triple guard capture was possible.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Headless King on August 01, 2011, 11:24:09 AM
I think I can prove that it is there.




In the Trojan Horseshoe picture, we can see a small shadow hanging down from the actuator.
The picture from King Tut's Cobra Staff goes to show that this shadow might actually be the unlit side of the half-pendant.
And probably most important of all, the Pendant of Kamehameha picture shows that there is usually no shadow.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 01, 2011, 02:05:16 PM
Interesting catch for "The Trojan Horseshoe" episode. That location would make sense for the half-pendant also because the third guard could've been the Shrine guard had the team entered the Spider's Lair. We know that there was a temple guard in the Spider's Lair because when Shawn exits the temple, you can the headdress of the temple guard and he tries to avoid stepping on the temple guard too.

I am going to watch more season 1 episodes and see if I can spot anymore.  ;)
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on August 01, 2011, 04:13:41 PM
I think I can prove that it is there.




In the Trojan Horseshoe picture, we can see a small shadow hanging down from the actuator.
The picture from King Tut's Cobra Staff goes to show that this shadow might actually be the unlit side of the half-pendant.
And probably most important of all, the Pendant of Kamehameha picture shows that there is usually no shadow.

Nice catch. I think that's enough proof for me to add it to the least. Now to watch some other S1 runs to see if other half pendants were hidden in the same place.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on August 01, 2011, 05:21:48 PM
I cannot find the half pendant in The Golden Cup of Belshazzar for the life of me. It might've been hiding in the Swamp, but the video quality of this episode isn't that good. I wonder if it's possible for the half pendant to be hiding in the coffin inside the Tomb of the Ancient Kings.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 03, 2011, 01:03:33 AM
I cannot find the half pendant in The Golden Cup of Belshazzar for the life of me. It might've been hiding in the Swamp, but the video quality of this episode isn't that good. I wonder if it's possible for the half pendant to be hiding in the coffin inside the Tomb of the Ancient Kings.

That's the problem with season one. The pendants are so obscure that its impossible to spot them in the temple. The only way you could figure out where they are at is by braking down the temple guard location.

Like "Elizabeth the I's Golden Ship" for example -- Both players ran into 3 temple in four rooms, yet the half-pendant is no where in site. Kirk told them that the half-pendant is located somewhere in the temple, but I definitely don't see it. That is how hard the season one runs are.  :|
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on September 02, 2011, 05:39:42 PM
I think I found something very interesting in The Missing Eye of David. Could this be convincing enough?

The Missing Eye of David:


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See that white peg circled in red? That might be the half pendant, or at least what it's possibly hanging from.

Another convincing (?) pic:


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This is proof that the white is NOT a part of the wall painting in the background.

Now compare that to The Applewood Amulet of Emiliano Zapata:


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No white peg, and this was another 1 1/2 pendant run (half pendant was on the Medusa's Lair actuator in the pit).

Another pic of that run:


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White peg missing.

Is this convincing enough?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on September 02, 2011, 06:33:06 PM
If the red boxes are making it more difficult to see, then watch the videos yourself to see what I mean. Just observe that area carefully.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on September 02, 2011, 07:24:27 PM
Interesting thought, but wouldn't you be able to see the half pendant through the railing if that was where it was?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on September 02, 2011, 07:38:28 PM
Interesting thought, but wouldn't you be able to see the half pendant through the railing if that was where it was?

That's a good question. Maybe the producers velcroed the half pendant to the vertical part of the railing so that way the viewers wouldn't be able to see it.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on September 02, 2011, 07:47:24 PM
I have another pic from The Missing Eye of David. The thing in the middle of the red square, could that be the half pendant? I know that in the second pic I posted earlier that looks like a leafy branch of some sort, but still, the half pendant could've been hanging there the entire time. What do you think?


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Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on September 02, 2011, 08:17:56 PM
I cannot find the half pendant in The Golden Cup of Belshazzar for the life of me. It might've been hiding in the Swamp, but the video quality of this episode isn't that good. I wonder if it's possible for the half pendant to be hiding in the coffin inside the Tomb of the Ancient Kings.

That's the problem with season one. The pendants are so obscure that its impossible to spot them in the temple. The only way you could figure out where they are at is by braking down the temple guard location.

Like "Elizabeth the I's Golden Ship" for example -- Both players ran into 3 temple in four rooms, yet the half-pendant is no where in site. Kirk told them that the half-pendant is located somewhere in the temple, but I definitely don't see it. That is how hard the season one runs are.  :|
I'm still convinced it was on an actuator in the Cave of Sighs in that case, just because I can't think of another spot on the path that would possibly be visible to the players, but not us.  It wouldn't make sense for players to have to go out of their way just to get a half-Pendant.

As for "The Missing Eye of David," I still think the half-Pendant was on an actuator then.  I see what you're trying to circle, PP319, but it doesn't even look big enough to be the actual pendant.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 03, 2011, 01:13:19 AM
I think the Missing Eye of David half-pendant had to be on one of the inactive actuators like TAW said. We just don't see it because all the shots of the room are either blurry or don't show the whole room. I think if it was sitting next to Medusa's head than Emily would've saw it.

Also, I need to go back and watch Elizabeth I's Golden Ship again and pay attention to the Cave of Sighs actuator.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on October 23, 2011, 11:15:01 AM
Where is the half pendant in The Sacred Ring of Sultan Suleiman? I can't find it. :?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 23, 2011, 11:22:10 AM
Where is the half pendant in The Sacred Ring of Sultan Suleiman? I can't find it. :?

It was on the Observatory actuator. You can see it during the temple rundown:


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Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on October 23, 2011, 02:02:51 PM
Oh, there it is. No wonder I couldn't see it, I was looking for it during the actual temple run. :lol: Thanks TRJ.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on October 23, 2011, 02:57:48 PM
Plus it didn't help that Brian never signaled back to Gracelyn. And naturally she went past it during the temple run.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on October 23, 2011, 10:00:42 PM
Plus it didn't help that Brian never signaled back to Gracelyn. And naturally she went past it during the temple run.

So many things went wrong in that run.

First, the frontrunner should not have went into the Ledges after trying only two books. Then he wouldn't have ran into that temple.

Second, he wasted too much time in the Ledges and by the time he reached the Observatory, a minute already pass.

Third, he did not signal the half-pendant to his partner.

Fourth, the secondrunner SHOULD'VE saw the half-pendant as it wasn't that obscure at all.

And finally, both players wasted too much time with deadends and backtracking, so they really had no chance to win.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 11, 2011, 08:27:28 PM
I have been trying to pay close attention to Medusa's Lair in "The Missing Eye of David" to see if I could locate the missing half-pendant. Here is something interesting I found from the run:


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If you look near the inactive door that leads to the Rock Quarry, you will notice a small piece of material on the floor. If you pay close attention while Michael is pressing the inactive actuators in the room, you will notice that he slightly steps on whatever that is suppose to be on the ground.

You have to watch the run itself to get a better idea on what I am talking about. Not trying to say that this is the half-pendant, but just found it to be an interesting find.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on December 11, 2011, 08:44:00 PM
It would definitely make sense for it to be on one of the inactive actuators, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 11, 2011, 08:47:04 PM
It makes me wonder if the team started in the Ledges, then they could've bypassed the top two rooms of the central shaft and avoid Medusa's Lair guard altogether.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Headless King on December 11, 2011, 09:35:34 PM
In Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat, when Chris passes through the Throne Room, he picks up a half-pendant sitting on the throne.




It's a little unclear to me whether or not that was the hidden half-pendant or if it was just his half-pendant that he dropped.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on December 11, 2011, 09:42:06 PM
I think it's the hidden one, mainly because he goes right for it as soon as he enter the room.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Viper on December 11, 2011, 09:50:21 PM
I agree with TSM. You can see the half pendant on the throne before he touches the throne.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 11, 2011, 10:30:19 PM
Yeah, that looks like the half-pendant alright. You can see it laying there before Chris even enters the room, then he tries to pick it up before sitting on the Throne. Its also a logical place for it since someone discovered (probably THK) that the last temple guard was in the Cave of Sighs.

Great find BTW! Its not easy to find these half-pendants in season one.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Headless King on December 12, 2011, 07:33:43 PM
Yeah, that looks like the half-pendant alright. You can see it laying there before Chris even enters the room, then he tries to pick it up before sitting on the Throne. Its also a logical place for it since someone discovered (probably THK) that the last temple guard was in the Cave of Sighs.

Great find BTW! Its not easy to find these half-pendants in season one.

Actually, for this one, I think we confirmed that the other guard was NOT in the Cave of Sighs, but with this discovery, we can be pretty sure that the other guard was in the Throne Room.  This would make because if they had taken the bottom route, they'd probably get to the Throne Room and then get forced up into the Heart Room.  This would cause them to run into all three guards, but with that extra half-pendant in the Throne Room, they'd be safe from it.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on December 12, 2011, 10:30:06 PM
Just like Belshazzar, I cannot find the half pendant for Henry VIII's Great Seal. I don't know, but I think it might have been on the Harmonic Convergence actuator from the pit. We never get a good camera angle, so it's possible.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 12, 2011, 10:47:01 PM
I took a glance at that run, and I don't see the half-pendant at all.

One thing to keep in mind though is that the half-pendant in early season one is like non-existent. I don't think they ever made the half-pendant obvious at all in the beginning episodes of the show. I mean I have watched certain episodes like Elizabeth I's Golden Ship, Henry VIII's Great Seal, Lost Logbooks of Magellan, etcl many times and have never seen any signs of the half-pendant.  :?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 01, 2012, 04:19:17 PM
I remember someone posted a pic of the King's Storeroom for The Melted Head of Madame Tussaud, but I can't seem to find it. Maybe it was lost in the server crash about a month or two ago? :|

Anyway, with a new YouTuber in "ChargerTheWolf" posting great quality Legends videos, I'm wondering if maybe we will have an easier time spotting these half pendants. For Melted Head, I remember someone posted a zoom-in of one of the Storeroom pedestals with what looked like a shadow behind the pot. I was wondering if someone could post a zoom-in of it.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on July 01, 2012, 05:50:40 PM
Here are the pics of the Storeroom in the Melted Head run:











Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 01, 2012, 06:07:57 PM
Was that from ChargerTheWolf by any chance? It's still hard to determine whether or not the half pendant was there. To me, in the fourth pic, I think that was a remnant of the clay pot. It looks too small to be the half pendant, but that's just me.

However, the third pic does look kind of convincing. Wouldn't you agree?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on July 01, 2012, 06:23:41 PM
Yes, they are from Charger's video.

And what's circled in the fourth pic isn't supposed to be the half pendant, rather what was used to hold it upright.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 01, 2012, 10:54:34 PM
Thanks to ChargertheWolf's better quality videos, I am highly convinced now that the missing half-pendant in "The Missing Eye of David" was sitting on the floor of Medusa's Lair by the inactive Rock Quarry door. You get some good shots in that video of the inactive actuators and it is easy to tell that nothing is hanging from the actuators. I will provide pictures once I compile them with the new and better quality videos.  ;)
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on July 01, 2012, 11:09:36 PM
Here is several screenshots I took from "The Missing Eye of David" temple run. In the lower right hand corner of each of the images, you will notice that there is an object similar to a crescent lying on the floor near the door leading to the Rock Quarry. It may be hard to view in the picture, but it is easier to view during the temple run if you watch if yourself. Michael almost even steps on it around the 2:04 mark. I think the first screenshot shows it the best out of all four images.


Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on July 01, 2012, 11:43:14 PM
Oh wow, that IS the half pendant. Great work TRJ! ;)
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on July 04, 2012, 01:27:48 PM
Yep, that's the half pendant!

Time to update the OP.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on August 04, 2012, 01:42:35 AM
Thanks to T90sAAT airing Henry VIII's Great Seal again, we might have a lead as to the location of the half-pendant in the run:


Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on August 04, 2012, 01:49:56 AM
To back that up, I saw something jump up in the air near the same area of the circled item. I think that is indeed the half pendant.

Also, most 1.5 pendant runs have the half pendant in the room just before the final guard's room. This wasn't always the case, but most of the time, it was.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 04, 2012, 01:50:41 AM
Looks like a half pendant to me. Moon shaped and all.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 04, 2012, 12:15:14 PM
That looks like the half-pendant to me also and it makes sense also to place it there. Most of the season one half-pendant locations was located one room before the final temple guard. And in "Henry VIII's Great Seal", the Dungeon was the one room that was before the final temple guard room. How did they expect Nick or Shay to find it on the floor though?

And maybe this theme can help us find other season one half-pendants. Not saying this was true for all season one runs, but most of these runs had half-pendants that were one room away from the final temple guards.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: TempleFan322 on August 06, 2012, 07:48:13 PM
Hey, its probably been said, but watch "The Bi-Focal Monical of One Eyed Jack" Its deffinately on the right Skeleton's leg/ankle. Watch as Thomas pulls the first set of vines in the Tomb, a half pendant is on both wrist.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on August 07, 2012, 12:32:41 AM
Hey, its probably been said, but watch "The Bi-Focal Monical of One Eyed Jack" Its deffinately on the right Skeleton's leg/ankle. Watch as Thomas pulls the first set of vines in the Tomb, a half pendant is on both wrist.
Yes, we know that. The half pendant was to the camera right of the right Headless King's right tibia.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 07, 2012, 12:55:27 AM
Looking at the list, we got almost every half-pendant location for season two and three. Only three episodes remain:

We all know that the last guard was in the Shrine in "The Walking Stick of Harriet Tubman". So that means that the half-pendant was most likely on a bottom floor room. In the past, we have theorized that it was in the Swamp - which makes perfect sense. However, we don't get a good shot of the Swamp in this temple run. But it would make sense if it was in the Swamp.

Then we have "The Snow Cone of Mount Kilimanjaro" where the team was too stupid to make it far through the temples. One thing to consider here is that the King's Storeroom opened up from the Pit. It is possible that the half-pendant is there. However, I don't think so considering that I am pretty sure the last temple guard was in the Quicksand Bog. So I am sure that it was on the bottom floor of the temple and the team was too stupid to find it.

And finally we have "The Bent Shaving Pan of Jedidiah Smith". Not sure about this one, but Irish did meet a temple guard in the Tomb of the Headless Kings and Ancient Warrior. The last guard had to be in the Ledges, because if the team encountered him here, then the one room away guard would be irrelevant. But it could be in a lot of places like in the Jester's Court similar to "Xerxes".
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 07, 2012, 01:03:44 AM
And speaking of "The Bent Shaving Pan of Jedediah Smith", I think I found the half-pendant after all. If you notice below the door leading into the Dark Forest from the Jester's Court, there is a crescent shaped object pinned to the wall. You can only see it though before Irish completes the objective for the Jester's Court as the room goes dark after that. You might have to watch the run yourself to get a better view, but I am pretty sure this is the half-pendant.




Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 07, 2012, 01:11:34 AM
You know what, I am pretty sure it was in the same place for "Mount Kilimanjaro" temple run also. And this makes sense too since "Jedediah Smith" and "Mount Kilimanjaro" were taped back to back on the same production day. And of course, Heather was too stupid to find it and Casey was even more stupid to not notice it after all the time he spent in that room.  :roll:


Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on August 07, 2012, 02:19:08 AM
They weren't taped back to back. Upside-Down Compass was filmed in between them.

That detail aside, I think that's definitely the half-pendant in both cases. For comparison's sake, here a shot of the same door from The Metal Beard of the Egyptian Queen:




There isn't anything below the door, so the circled spots most certainly have to be the half pendant.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on August 07, 2012, 08:03:02 AM
I checked two other great wins to see if there was anything below the same door: The Secret Map of the Bandit Queen and The Mussel-Shell Armor of Apanuugpak. Guess what? I think we've got a winner with TRJ's find! Nothing was below the door in both runs I just mentioned. Now only if we can find the Walking Stick half pendant.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on August 07, 2012, 08:09:06 AM
Wait a minute, I just found something interesting. In "The Marble Armrest of Xerxes", Noelle gave a signal to Pat that the half pendant was on one of the middle painting buttons in the Jesters' Court. However, there was something below the same door like in the Shaving Pan and Snow Cone runs. I circled both the hand signal and spot below the door.





Also note that I couldn't see the half pendant on any of the actuators. It was too hard to see. So either that spot below the door is just a decoration or Noelle, like we all know, is an idiot. :roll:
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 07, 2012, 04:17:57 PM
PP319, I think the half-pendant in "Xerxes" is in the exact same place for "Mount Kilimanjaro" and "Jedediah Smith". I never understood why people thought that the half-pendant was on the Jester's Court actuators. I have never once saw it there as many times I have watched that pitiful temple run. Watching the video again, it looks like it is indeed below the Jester's Court door to the Dark Forest. What Noelle is trying to do in the Jester's Court while trying the middle painting is unusual though.

And yeah, that cresent-shaped object is not there in any of the other temple runs. If you watch runs like "Ivan the Terrible" and "Queen Boadicea", that object is not present in either of those runs.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on August 07, 2012, 04:36:12 PM
You got my name right for once! :mrpurple: ;)

So we're just going to say that the half pendant was hanging under the door and Noelle is an idiot. Sounds good to me. :P
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on August 07, 2012, 04:36:29 PM
Yeah, it's pretty unlikely for it to just be decoration if it's not there in every run.

And it makes sense for the half pendant to be there in Marble Armrest, since it was filmed immediately after Bent Shaving Pan.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 07, 2012, 04:40:14 PM
And not to mention, "Xerxes" is the same day as the two runs above. Oh boy what a pitiful day for temple appearances.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 07, 2012, 06:58:21 PM
Yeah, the Xerxes half pendant location we found is much more accurate than it being on one of the paintings actuators. I mean, notice how we don't see anything moon shaped on the middle paintings actuators? Either way, it's not like the team was gonna make it far anyways. :roll:
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 08, 2012, 12:42:51 AM
My problem is that how were the contestants suppose to know that the half-pendant was there? I mean its not like the first thing you first enter the Jester's Court is to look below the Dark Forest door. And when the teams do complete the Jester's Court objective, the room goes dark anyways. So how would one expect to find the half-pendant there? And in the case for "Xerxes" and "Mount Kilimanjaro", those final temple guards would've been unavoidable and those runs would've ended in triple cature anyways since neither teams found it. Although not that it matter because both were lost causes. :roll:

And looking at the season three half-pendant lists, a lot of those half-pendant teams got a raw deal in the temple where the producers were basically banking on them for having 1.5 pendants. Runs like "Aurangzeb", "Hans Holbein", and "Xerxes" featured layouts where the half-pendant MUST be found in order for them to suceed longer in the temple.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on August 08, 2012, 12:53:06 AM
Hans Holbein was 2 pendants. ;)

The other run you were thinking of was probably "The Golden Spider Web of Robert the Bruce."
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 08, 2012, 01:36:34 AM
It's possible the contestants could have felt the half pendant while exiting the room. But yeah, I wouldn't expect them to actually find the half pendant in that location. Couldn't they have just put it above the Pit/Tomb door? Like they did in the Sforza run.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 08, 2012, 01:47:04 AM
My theory is when season three came around, the producers tried making these gimmicky layouts to switch the show up a little bit and that includes making weird half-pendant locations. I mean look at where the half-pendant in "The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain" was - it was sitting next to one of the pots in the King's Storeroom. Same with the half-pendant for "Madame Tussaud" and "Chandragupta". And "One-Eyed Jack" had the half-pendant in the Tomb of the Headless Kings. And several runs had the half-pendant hanging from above the Chamber like in "Sir Gawain". While in season two, the half-pendants were always in plain view like hanging from an actuator that the team will most likely use. The season two half-pendants were basically screaming "find me", and of course some teams miserably failed like the "Nathan Hale" team.

And wasn't "The Jeweled Scabbard of Sforza" the only time the half-pendant was in the Pit in season three? I am surprised they didn't hide more there. Then again, the "Sforza" win was basically handed to the Green Monkeys team.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on August 08, 2012, 01:57:22 AM
The half pendants in Golden Spider Web and Lost Taj Mahal Turban were also in the pit.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on August 08, 2012, 07:30:44 PM
You know what, I am pretty sure it was in the same place for "Mount Kilimanjaro" temple run also. And this makes sense too since "Jedediah Smith" and "Mount Kilimanjaro" were taped back to back on the same production day. And of course, Heather was too stupid to find it and Casey was even more stupid to not notice it after all the time he spent in that room.  :roll:



I'm sorry, but I do not think that this is a half pendant.

If you look at the picture closely, in the circled area there's a white-ish strip that runs along the base of the opening, but it terminates right where you all believe the half pendant is hanging.

I think that what TRJ has circled in this picture is just a piece of trimming that had become partially dislodged from its spot at the bottom of this opening. I think that the trim's purpose would be to cover up the 90 degree angle so the contestants wouldn't be injured by knocking body parts into it.




I think that this is the same for the Jedediah Smith half pendant as well.

Notice that the hanging object forks in 2 directions just below the opening. As seen in previous confirmed half pendant pictures, the hanging half pendant never forked in multiple directions like that. It just laid flat against the wall.




I think that the grainy nature of TSM's comparison pic disallows us to see the trim. Also, please keep in mind that the Metal Beard episode was 18 episodes after Jedediah Smith, and 20 episodes after Kilimanjaro. So the crew would have had ample time to notice the dislodged piece of safety trim and either replace or fix it, but would have had no time in between Kilimanjaro and Jedediah Smith to fix it due to them being on consecutive production days.

Wait a minute, I just found something interesting. In "The Marble Armrest of Xerxes", Noelle gave a signal to Pat that the half pendant was on one of the middle painting buttons in the Jesters' Court. However, there was something below the same door like in the Shaving Pan and Snow Cone runs. I circled both the hand signal and spot below the door.


This quote further solidifies my theory, because Noelle obviously saw something worthwhile to signal to her partner Pat. That and the presence of the dangling object pretty much debunks the Jedediah Smith pics. Also, I think I saw a beige edge of the half pendant Noelle was signaling with 1:26 left in the run right before the camera angle changes to Noelle lining up with the left painting. If anybody can get a pic of this reflection I saw please post it.

Also, I think Pat missed the half pendant because the room was blacked out, so he couldn't see well enough to find it.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on August 08, 2012, 08:43:51 PM
I'm not sure about that... the top "half" looks to be thinner than the bottom "half", like it's the wrist strap part of the half-pendant:




As for the discoloration, I think it's just some light shining on that part of the door frame.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 09, 2012, 12:54:18 AM
Quote
I'm sorry, but I do not think that this is a half pendant.

If you look at the picture closely, in the circled area there's a white-ish strip that runs along the base of the opening, but it terminates right where you all believe the half pendant is hanging.

I think that what TRJ has circled in this picture is just a piece of trimming that had become partially dislodged from its spot at the bottom of this opening. I think that the trim's purpose would be to cover up the 90 degree angle so the contestants wouldn't be injured by knocking body parts into it.

I think that this is the same for the Jedediah Smith half pendant as well.

Notice that the hanging object forks in 2 directions just below the opening. As seen in previous confirmed half pendant pictures, the hanging half pendant never forked in multiple directions like that. It just laid flat against the wall.

The thing is though that piece of "decoration" is only seen in the runs mentioned in these several posts - "Jedediah Smith", "Xerxes", and "Mount Kilimanjaro". Is it just a coincidence that all of these runs were 1.5 runs from the same production day and there was a crescent looking object below the Jester's Court door and each of these runs? Not to mention, these three runs featured similar paths where the team was forced on the bottom floor en route to the artifact. I really wish we could get a good shot of the Jester's Court in the "Henry Hudson" run since that team had two pendants, but I looked and we don't really get a close-up on the Jester's Court.

And if that is really suppose to be a safety device, then why is it not present in temple runs before and after these set of episodes? Watch episodes like "Sir Gawain" and "Chandragupta", you don't see that safety device all, and those came 3 or 4 runs before "Mount Kilimanjaro". And the quality of the videos don't even give you a close-up on what the object is, so you can't just say that it doesn't look like a half-pendant when we can't even see it close-up.

And as for "Xerxes", who really knows what Noelle was trying to do? I mean whatever that gesture meant didn't mean she found the half-pendant hanging from the actuators. You can look at them closely and you don't see any crescent-shaped objects on them. I sure don't see them and I have watched this suckfest countless times.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on August 10, 2012, 10:00:23 AM
I still think that's the half pendant hanging in all three episodes. Maybe we should ask nicklegends what he thinks?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 10, 2012, 03:20:01 PM
I don't see how that is not the half-pendant. All three episodes shared the same path where they had to pass through the entire bottom floor in order to reach their respective artifacts on the upper floor. All three temple runs also had their first temple guard in the Tomb of the Headless Kings also. And where else would the half-pendants be in "Jedediah Smith" and "Kilimanjaro"? The final temple guard in "Kilimanjaro" was in the Quicksand Bog, so it had to be close by. And Irish took the most direct path open to her in "Jedediah Smith". So having the half-pendant in the Jester's Court made sense because it was before the final temple guard.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on August 10, 2012, 03:38:50 PM
Yeah, I fail to see how that is NOT a half pendant. And the "there's no decoration after that filming day" theory doesn't make sense. If the half pendants in those runs were not in the Jesters' Court, where else would it be? It would make no sense to hide them anywhere else. :?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 10, 2012, 03:45:04 PM
It would've been nice to get a shot of the Jester's Court in the "Henry Hudson" run so we could truly determine if that was some sort of decoration or not. But of you watch the production day before it, the said decoration is not in either "Bandit Queen" or "Chandragupta". I haven't checked any of the runs after the "Xerxes" production day, but it would be pretty unusual to use that decoration for just one production day.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on August 10, 2012, 03:50:56 PM
There was no decoration in runs like Mussel-Shell Armor and Metal Beard. Because of this, that has to be the half pendant. The one thing that throws this off is Noelle's hand signal in the same room. What she was doing with that, I don't know. Maybe she thought what she saw was the half pendant but it truly wasn't?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on August 10, 2012, 04:17:48 PM
I haven't checked any of the runs after the "Xerxes" production day, but it would be pretty unusual to use that decoration for just one production day.

The only run filmed the day after Xerxes' production day in which the Jesters' Court was entered was "The Discarded Seal of Ivan the Terrible", and there was nothing there.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on August 11, 2012, 12:57:25 AM
I haven't checked any of the runs after the "Xerxes" production day, but it would be pretty unusual to use that decoration for just one production day.

The only run filmed the day after Xerxes' production day in which the Jesters' Court was entered was "The Discarded Seal of Ivan the Terrible", and there was nothing there.

It would be just so random to have that decoration piece for four episodes and not used in any other. And it makes sense for them to keep the half-pendant there, considering none of the teams found it all during that day. And since most of their paths were similar with similar temple guard encounters, there was no need really to hide it anywhere else.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on August 11, 2012, 01:29:36 AM
The main reason I don't think it's the half pendant is because it just looks a little smaller than what the half pendant would look like.

If someone can get a picture that shows the object with more depth, than I might be persuaded to change my mind.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 02, 2012, 04:06:00 PM
The main reason I don't think it's the half pendant is because it just looks a little smaller than what the half pendant would look like.

If someone can get a picture that shows the object with more depth, than I might be persuaded to change my mind.

Hi, this is my first time attempting to attach screenshots on this site. I have convincing screenshots on my computer of the half pendant being on the door from the Jester's Court to the Dark Forest for the Snowcone, Bent Shaving Pan, and Marble Armrest episodes. The file is currently too large to attach, but if you can explain to me how to attach it, I will get the screenshots posted.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on September 02, 2012, 04:15:12 PM
The main reason I don't think it's the half pendant is because it just looks a little smaller than what the half pendant would look like.

If someone can get a picture that shows the object with more depth, than I might be persuaded to change my mind.

Hi, this is my first time attempting to attach screenshots on this site. I have convincing screenshots on my computer of the half pendant being on the door from the Jester's Court to the Dark Forest for the Snowcone, Bent Shaving Pan, and Marble Armrest episodes. The file is currently too large to attach, but if you can explain to me how to attach it, I will get the screenshots posted.

Upload your images to Photobucket (http://photobucket.com), Imgur (http://imgur.com), or Tinypic (http://tinypic.com), then copy and paste the BB Code that they give you.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 02, 2012, 10:36:11 PM












I hope this verifies the undoubted existence of the half pendants for those three episodes.  (Screenshots courtesy youtube.com videos posted by ChargerTheWolf)
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 02, 2012, 10:54:07 PM



Also courtesy youtube.com from ChargerTheWolf
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 02, 2012, 11:12:58 PM
Thank you for the images, PurpleParrot4Life! :mrpurple: I think they are very convincing that the half-pendant was indeed located in those three runs. Just the fact that its not in "The Secret Map of the Bandit Queen" temple run (which aired 2-3 episodes before "Mount Kilimanjaro") is enough reasoning to believe that was not some piece of decoration they placed there for one production day. Since none of the teams bothered to find it in any of the temple runs, the producers probably felt no need to hide it in a different place. And all three of those temple runs have similar layouts too. So why not keep it in the same place?

And I agree that the half-pendant was definitely NOT on the Jester's Court painting in "Xerxes". I know some people have been saying this for years, but I have never once saw it. We don't even know what Noelle was trying to signal. The cameraman might've said something to her or she might've saw the half-pendant hanging from the Dark Forest door when she entered the room, so she signaled to Pat. But it is unclear what she was trying to signal, so we can't assume that it was just based on the half-pendant.

I really need to watch the "Henry Hudson" run to see if that decoration is on the door area or not.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 02, 2012, 11:25:23 PM
On a separate note regarding half pendants, I have a suggestion for the whereabouts of the one for Snake Bracelet of Cleopatra. I believe it is on the actuator from the Room of the Fallen Columns to the Treasure Room.

Evidence (or lack thereof): It is not out-rightly visible during the temple overview; it cannot be seen on the actuator from the Wheel Room to the Throne Room, it is not on the throne or its ladder, nor is it on either actuator from the Holes of Python to the Tomb of Ancient Kings. It is also clearly not visible on the actuator from the Troubled Bridge to the Observatory. Also, notice that there is no hesitation in hitting the actuator from the Treasure Room to the Shrine of the Silver Monkey, as there was in The Trojan Horseshoe. The treasure box in the back of the Shrine (that was used for The Treasure of Anne Bonny) was not there in the episode, so it could not have been placed there, nor was the half pendant in the base of the shrine because there wasn't any interference with assembling the monkey.

On the contrary, we cannot physically see the actuator in the Room of the Fallen Columns at any point, nor does the second runner look directly at that actuator during her portion of the run (a column appears to have fallen directly on top of the actuator and prevented it from being in her view). It is quite possible that the frontrunner did not signal back to his partner that the half pendant was there when he hit the actuator (we have, after all, seen that happen a number of times).

This location of the half pendant makes sense if you consider where the third temple guard most likely was... either the Cave of Sighs, the Throne Room, or a dead end Holes of Python (like in so many other swamp/spider's lair episodes). If the team had chosen to enter via the lower route, it is inevitable that the frontrunner would have run into that other temple guard first, then would have been forced up from the Throne Room to the Room of the Fallen Columns. Then he would have been taken out of temple by the Heart Room temple guard. The second runner would have been forced to follow that path, and would've had to have ended up going from the Fallen Columns to the Golden Idols, where the third guard was located. Since she would have been the one hitting that actuator, she (hopefully) would have seen the half pendant and grabbed it before entering the Treasure Room. Plus, that would have put the pendant in the room directly prior to the third guard, which is a running trend seen in Season 1.

I hope that this is a convincing hypothesis regarding why the half pendant for the Snake Bracelet episode would have been in the Room of the Fallen Columns.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 02, 2012, 11:55:06 PM
For "The Snake Bracelet of Cleopatra", the last temple guard was indeed in the Cave of Sighs. We have a thread talking about the temple guard placement in each temple run, and one of our users discovered that the last temple guard was in the Cave. Here is the topic:


http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=2202.0 (http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=2202.0)

Here is the image that proves (from The Headless Kings) that proves that the last temple guard was in the Cave of Sighs:




So going by your theory, I think the half-pendant was indeed in the Room of Fallen Columns. It makes sense after all. The Cave of Sighs was most likely either a deadend in this temple run, or had a temple route similar to "The Treasure of Anne Bonny" where the team would've been forced up from the Throne Room. In this case, that means the last temple guard would've been in the Treasury of the Golden Orbs.

Following the theme of the other season one temple runs, the last half-pendant is usually in the room before the last temple guard. So Robert or Tracy would've encountered their last guard in the Golden Orbs. So it makes sense that the half-pendant would've been in the Fallen Columns because it was the last room before the final temple guard. And I agree that the half-pendant was most likely on the actuator in that temple run.  ;)
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 03, 2012, 12:32:30 AM
I have two separate ideas for the location of the half pendant in "The Lost Logbooks of Magellan". My first hypothesis uses photo evidence, courtesy the videos from ChargerTheWolf on youtube.com:











If you consider the size, color, and shape of the photographic evidence from earlier in this thread for the half pendant being in the dungeon for Henry VIII’s Great Seal, they appear similar. In addition, they were two of the four episodes of layout S1L4, meaning they were shot in the same day. So the producers may have thought to put the half pendant on the floor both times [Corollary: If this is the case, then that means that the half pendants for Lucky Pig of Amelia Earhart and Moccasins of Geronimo (the two other episodes of the day, each also teams winning 1.5 pendants) very well could have been on the floor as well].

My second hypothesis is that the half pendant is located in the treasure chest (later used for Anne Bonny) in the Shrine of the Silver Monkey. That would put the pendant one room away from the final temple guard (a very common scenario in Season 1), and it was not in the base of the shrine, since she had no interference assembling the monkey. Did anybody have those same thoughts? Do either seem plausible?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 03, 2012, 12:44:24 AM
Interesting find, there is some sort of object on the ground in that temple run. I am not sure if it is really a half-pendant though. I would have to watch the temple run again myself to see it better. The one unusual thing about the half-pendant location is that its not located one room away like most of the season one half-pendants were. Assuming that was a deadend, that would've required Jessica to enter the deadend in order to just pick up the half-pendant. It is a good guess though and I will check it out. But I think the half-pendant was on a top floor room, like the Room of the Golden Idols or Shrine of the Silver Monkey.

But I just want to point out that I don't think that there was ever a half-pendant in the "Anne Bonny" treasure chest when it was in the Shrine. I know on one site that it said that Jammin John found the half-pendant in said treasure chest, but I don't really think he did. That would've been a very cruel place to put and expecting a contestant to look into a random prop for a half-pendant would've been way too harsh. I think the only reason John looked in it because he got confused on the room objective. Which is understandable, since it was basically the first temple run ever made. ;)
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 03, 2012, 01:19:48 AM
I just did a frame-by-frame scan on the Room of the Harmonic Convergence for the Magellan episode, and it seems that the frontrunner never tried the "camera right/behind ladder" symbol combination that straddle where the potential half-pendant location is. It seems that he may have walked over them with 2:28/2:29 left on the temple run clock (before trying the door to the Swamp), but he did not apply the same stomping force as he did to the other symbol combinations. So based on that, the room may not have actually been a dead-end; it is possible that the door to the Heart Room simply did not get triggered. Notice that right after the frontrunner passes over that last symbol combination, Kirk says, "There he goes, he's got it." It seems fishy that Kirk would have said that if the room was meant to be a dead end... although that could just be another Fogg-Up...

Luckily, either way, the door from the Wall Climb to the Heart Room was unlocked, allowing this run to continue without too much chaos (unlike, let's say, the door mishap in War Fan of the 47 Ronin).

If this scenario is truly the case, then the frontrunner could have gone directly from the Harmonic Convergence to the Heart Room, getting taken out in the Heart Room. The second runner could then have followed that direct path from the Harmonic Convergence to the Heart Room and further (by following the path, she would have had to have entered the Harmonic Convergence, with the half pendant, and would have needed it later on). However, if the frontrunner had originally avoided the Harmonic Convergence, and instead gone straight to the Heart Room (which we know was unlocked from the Wall Climb), then he would have lost his pendant to the Heart Room temple guard and then would have been taken out by the Pirate's Cove temple guard. In following that path, the second runner would not have needed to enter the Harmonic Convergence, which would have then contained both the third temple guard and half pendant.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 03, 2012, 01:23:16 AM
But I just want to point out that I don't think that there was ever a half-pendant in the "Anne Bonny" treasure chest when it was in the Shrine. I know on one site that it said that Jammin John found the half-pendant in said treasure chest, but I don't really think he did. That would've been a very cruel place to put and expecting a contestant to look into a random prop for a half-pendant would've been way too harsh. I think the only reason John looked in it because he got confused on the room objective. Which is understandable, since it was basically the first temple run ever made. ;)

Well, it was mentioned that the Season 1 half pendant locations did seem a bit peculiar and obscure. Even if the half pendant wasn't located in the Anne Bonny treasure chest during Jammin' Jon's run, would that mean that it was impossible for the half pendant to be there in another run? I don't think so. Especially since it has happened that way in other episodes: the half pendant was in the Tomb of the Headless Kings during the Bifocal Monocle of One-Eyed Jack, but it was never placed there again.

If we are going on the hunch that the half pendant was in the Shrine since that was the room prior to the final temple guard, I don't see where else the half pendant could have been placed. Since all of the camera angles fail to zoom in toward the back of the room well, it is hard to simply put up a picture and circle the pendant. However, we need to use deductive reasoning: It is not out-rightly visible anywhere else in the room, and we know that it was not in the base, since Jessica had no interference assembling the monkey.  In addition, there is the fact that Jessica never looked down at the counter with the treasure chest when she went to grab the head of the monkey; therefore, it very easily could have been in there, with the producers' intent that she would look down when she was grabbing the piece of the monkey and grab it. All of this together makes me feel that if the half pendant were to be placed somewhere in that room, the treasure chest would have been the most likely place where it would have been.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 05, 2012, 01:11:52 AM
I just think its too much to expect of a season one contestant to look into some random room decoration for an element of a game that could make a difference between them winning or losing. Season one did have unusual and borderline impossible half-pendant locations, but I don't see them going that far with them hiding it in the "Anne Bonny" treasure chest, which was just a decoration at the time. And yeah, the half-pendant was only located in Tomb of the Headless Kings once in season three. But then again, the season three producers were more creative than the season one producers. I am not even sure if the season three producers were the entirely same ones from season one. ;)

But back to "The Lost Logbooks of Magellan". I am sure the half-pendant was located somewhere in the Shrine. I mean it had to be there or the Treasure Room. My guess was that the half-pendant might've been on the upper shelfing or on one of the cabinets in the back of the room.

It makes me wonder also if the half-pendant for "The Lucky Pig of Amelia Earhart" was in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings too since Kristen encountered her last guard in the Swamp.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on September 05, 2012, 05:58:02 AM
All I have to say is damn, PP4L has some good eyes and sense of logic.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on September 05, 2012, 02:18:53 PM
r.e. Lost Logbooks, I think that's the half pendant. It definitely looks to be the right shape in the second screenshot.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 05, 2012, 03:36:17 PM
Interesting, on a closer look at the temple run for "Magellan", the piece that PP4L circled does look a little peculiar. At first I thought it was just some debris from the Pit of Despair, but that circled piece looks bigger than the stuff from the Pit. It makes me wonder if the Room of Harmonic Convergence was a really a deadend in that run. I mean if that is the half-pendant, it would've been kind of harsh to expect the second runner to go in there and find a half-pendant. I mean Jessica doesn't even notice it when she goes into that room. But then again, season one had some really weird half-pendant locations.

And at the end of the temple run, Kirk also points into the direction for the Room of Harmonic Convergence. Who knows though, season one and their bad camera angles.  :roll:
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 05, 2012, 03:53:31 PM
It reminds me of another temple run that had that same piece sitting in the Room of the Harmonic Convergence? Was it "The Treasure Map of Jean Lafitte"? I have a class soon and can't check until later, but I remember seeing a similar piece sitting on the ground in another temple run.

What about "The Silver Saddle Horn of Hannibal"? The temple guards in that run were in the Treasure Room and Holes of Python. Another interesting note is that the Observatory door leading to the Room of the Royal Gongs opened when Vicky spun the sundial. So its possible that the last temple guard was in the Royal Gongs? So that might mean the half-pendant was in one of the rooms before the Holes of Python.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 05, 2012, 06:39:12 PM
Interesting, on a closer look at the temple run for "Magellan", the piece that PP4L circled does look a little peculiar. At first I thought it was just some debris from the Pit of Despair, but that circled piece looks bigger than the stuff from the Pit. It makes me wonder if the Room of Harmonic Convergence was a really a deadend in that run. I mean if that is the half-pendant, it would've been kind of harsh to expect the second runner to go in there and find a half-pendant. I mean Jessica doesn't even notice it when she goes into that room. But then again, season one had some really weird half-pendant locations.

And at the end of the temple run, Kirk also points into the direction for the Room of Harmonic Convergence. Who knows though, season one and their bad camera angles.  :roll:

I truly believe that the Harmonic Convergence was not a dead end in the Logbooks episode. "Legends" saw its fair share of mishaps with doors not firing and contestants failing to complete room objectives to unlock the doors. In addition, when the frontrunner walked over the last symbol combination, he certainly did not use the same stomping force as with the other combinations. Plus, the object-in-question was positioned between the two symbols in that final combination; that does not seem like a coincidence. And generally speaking, the correct symbol combination in the Harmonic Convergence was almost always one that included one of the symbols in the back of the room. Given all of these facts, it just seems too perfect for the room to have been a dead end.

You must also consider the fact that if it was not a dead end, then the second runner would have followed the path from the Pit to the Harmonic Convergence to the Heart Room, thereby "being forced" to enter the Room of Harmonic Convergence and the half pendant ("being forced" in the sense of following the frontrunner's path, seeing as how the Pit/Heart Room access would not have needed to be activated during the frontrunner's progress). On the contrary, if the frontrunner had never entered the Harmonic Convergence, and instead immediately went from the Pit to the Heart Room, then it would make sense for the second runner to follow that path, rather than try the actuator from the Pit to the Room of Harmonic Convergence and deviate from the frontrunner's path.

We obviously know that, if the object-in-question was really the half pendant, then the second runner passed it up. But just because the half pendant was "right there in plain sight" does not mean that the contestant would have necessarily seen it and picked it up. Going back to the "Henry VIII's Great Seal" episode, if the half pendant was really located on the floor in the Dungeon, then that means that Nick went right passed it, even though it was also "right there in plain sight".

And lastly, I would like to point out that even if most of the Season 1 half pendants were located one room from the final temple guard, there could still be outliers. Case and point: Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat... the half pendant was in the Throne Room, which I'm taking as meaning that the lower route (Cave of Sighs, Wheel Room, Throne Room to Heart Room) would have been open as well. If this were the case, then it would make sense for the first temple guard to be in the Throne Room (during the credits, we can see that there isn't a guard in the Cave of Sighs, there was rarely ever a guard in the Tomb of Ancient Kings, and I doubt that there was a guard in the Holes of Python because the contestant would have had to run over the guard upon exiting the temple); we know that the other two were in the Heart Room and Treasure Room. But with the half pendant being in the Throne Room, the half pendant COULD NOT have been one room away from the final temple guard because the final guard could not have been the one in the Heart Room. So, as nice as that "It's one room away from the final temple guard" trend seems, we automatically know that it does not hold true for every Season One episode.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 06, 2012, 10:47:29 PM
It reminds me of another temple run that had that same piece sitting in the Room of the Harmonic Convergence? Was it "The Treasure Map of Jean Lafitte"? I have a class soon and can't check until later, but I remember seeing a similar piece sitting on the ground in another temple run.

I was intrigued about your inquiry, so I took it upon myself to investigate "The Treasure Map of Jean Lafitte." And indeed, I came across a very interesting find (photo courtesy video from youtube.com posted by ChargerTheWolf):




(Sorry for the blurry photo... the camera was doing a panoramic shot of the room, and this is one of the only times that the floor is seen from this angle; if you want, you can look on the video yourself and see that there is most undoubtedly an object on the floor there at 2:03 on the temple run clock.)

An object can be seen in the Harmonic Convergence, and it's very similar to those captured in my previous photos for "The Lost Logbooks of Magellan." What is interesting to note here, is that the room preceding the Harmonic Convergence this time is the Wheel Room, not the Wall Climb... so there wasn't any debris from the Wall Climb spilling out into the Harmonic Convergence this time (which eliminates that as an explanation for the object being there). Also, similarly to "The Lost Logbooks of Magellan," entering The Room of Harmonic Convergence was avoidable, as proven by the second runner's ability to proceed from the Troubled Bridge to the Observatory to the Heart Room and beyond. Just as in the other episode, if the frontrunner had taken this path to begin with, then the second runner would not have needed to enter the Harmonic Convergence, nor would the frontrunner have encountered the temple in that room. Thus, the half pendant there would not have been needed in order to progress because the second runner (hopefully) would have followed the frontrunner's path and avoided The Room of Harmonic Convergence entirely.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 06, 2012, 10:49:07 PM
I always thought that the Room of Harmonic Convergence was a deadend in "Magellan" also. I mean, wasn't there a small noise made when Robert tried all of the steps in that room? It would've just seemed like a harsh deadend to me. Even Kirk seemed convinced that it was not a deadend. And if that really is the half-pendant on the ground, then it was more likely this room was not a deadend. And yeah, good catch on the detail about "Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat". The half-pendant in that run was not one room away like it was for the other season one runs. But unlike the supposed "Magellan" half-pendant location, that half-pendant was only two rooms away from the final temple guard rather than four rooms away. But still good catch.

What I really want to know is where the half-pendant in "Elizabeth I's Golden Ship"? I mean really... this team only traveled through four rooms and no half-pendant in sight? I have to say it was in the Heart Room, but honestly I don't have a clue.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 06, 2012, 11:08:24 PM
I always thought that the Room of Harmonic Convergence was a deadend in "Magellan" also. I mean, wasn't there a small noise made when Robert tried all of the steps in that room? It would've just seemed like a harsh deadend to me. Even Kirk seemed convinced that it was not a deadend.

Do you mean to say that you always thought that the room WASN'T a dead end?   ;)

But unlike the supposed "Magellan" half-pendant location, that half-pendant was only two rooms away from the final temple guard rather than four rooms away.

Why should that matter? There were plenty of episodes from Season 2 and 3 where the number of rooms between the half pendant and the final temple guard (or what would have been the final temple guard, in the event that the team did not encounter the third guard) wasn't the same; why can't that be true for Season 1 as well?

Just to name a few for reference: "Crown of Queen Nzinga" was one room away; "The Bifocal Monocle of One Eyed Jack" would have had to have been at least two rooms away (the half pendant was picked up in the Tomb of the Headless Kings, and there are no temple guards in the Jester's Court); and "The Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King" would have been either three or four rooms away from the final temple guard (the half pendant was on the left-hand column in the Chamber of the Sacred Markers, and the number of rooms to get to the Secret Password depended on if the contestant would have had to go up to the King's Storeroom or directly to the Ancient Warriors from the Sacred Markers). Either way, there was much variation in the number of rooms between picking up the half pendant, the room with the second guard, and the room with the final guard.

Like I said in an earlier post, "As nice as that trend seems, we automatically know that it does not hold true for every episode."
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on September 06, 2012, 11:12:35 PM
What I really want to know is where the half-pendant in "Elizabeth I's Golden Ship"? I mean really... this team only traveled through four rooms and no half-pendant in sight? I have to say it was in the Heart Room, but honestly I don't have a clue.

Could this be it (circled)?:


Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 06, 2012, 11:22:44 PM
I always thought that the Room of Harmonic Convergence was a deadend in "Magellan" also. I mean, wasn't there a small noise made when Robert tried all of the steps in that room? It would've just seemed like a harsh deadend to me. Even Kirk seemed convinced that it was not a deadend.

Do you mean to say that you always thought that the room WASN'T a dead end?   ;)

Oops, I meant to say I always thought that wasn't a deadend. Thanks for pointing that out. ;)

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Why should that matter? There were plenty of episodes from Season 2 and 3 where the number of rooms between the half pendant and the final temple guard (or what would have been the final temple guard, in the event that the team did not encounter the third guard) wasn't the same; why can't that be true for Season 1 as well?

Just to name a few for reference: "Crown of Queen Nzinga" was one room away; "The Bifocal Monocle of One Eyed Jack" would have had to have been at least two rooms away (the half pendant was picked up in the Tomb of the Headless Kings, and there are no temple guards in the Jester's Court); and "The Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King" would have been either three or four rooms away from the final temple guard (the half pendant was on the left-hand column in the Chamber of the Sacred Markers, and the number of rooms to get to the Secret Password depended on if the contestant would have had to go up to the King's Storeroom or directly to the Ancient Warriors from the Sacred Markers). Either way, there was much variation in the number of rooms between picking up the half pendant, the room with the second guard, and the room with the final guard.

Like I said in an earlier post, "As nice as that trend seems, we automatically know that it does not hold true for every episode."

I don't really compare the season one temple with the later two season temples. By season two, there was a different set of producers that made the temple. That is why in season two the half-pendants were made much more easier than season one probably. Also, the season two 1.5 pendant teams usually got banked on for having a half-pendant where the producers set the team up where it wasn't possible to avoid 2/3 of the guards. So whatever trend occurred in season two or three, I don't really compare with season one.

I am not saying that all the half-pendants had to be one room away. Look at "Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat", that proved that it wasn't always the case. And with your "Magellan" and "Jean Lafitte" pictures, its also possible those were the half-pendants after all and that the half-pendant wasn't always one room away. But alot of season one temple runs did have one room away half-pendants:

"Gordian Knot", "The Trojan Horseshoe", "King Tut's Cobra Staff", "Mata Hari", "Henry VIII's Great Seal", "Anne Bonny", etc. So it does kind of help narrowing it down. But yeah, it doesn't always mean that the half-pendant was one room away. But you have to admit that this pattern appears in a lot of season one runs.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 06, 2012, 11:23:52 PM
Your finding for "Elizabeth I's Golden Ship" seems plausible. The half pendant would have had to have been placed in a room prior to the Golden Idols, and I believe that the producers never put the half pendant in the Crypt or Ledges (or their respective rooms for alternate layouts). Also, upon watching the whole temple run clip, it seems that the second runner went around the BACK of the ladder leading to the Throne Room, while the area circled is on the FRONT SIDE of the ladder, explaining why she easily missed the half pendant if the circled object is it. A (potentially) very nice find, TRJ!
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 06, 2012, 11:24:57 PM
And in response to TSM'S pic:

Yeah, I do see something circled on the ground. Good catch! Its hard to make out whether that object is a half-pendant or not. But it would be weird for a random piece of prop to be on the Heart Room floor. If that truly was the half-pendant, then it seemed like the season one production team loved throwing the half-pendants on the floor so early in the season. And how was Gabby and Joe suppose to find it laying there? I don't really blame them for this run ending in triple capture if that was the case.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on September 06, 2012, 11:29:33 PM
And in regards to Silver Saddle Horn:







Needless to say, one of the two things circled can't be the half pendant. I'm personally leaning towards the second circled thing being the half pendant.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 06, 2012, 11:29:50 PM
I am not saying that all the half-pendants had to be one room away. Look at "Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat", that proved that it wasn't always the case. And with your "Magellan" and "Jean Lafitte" pictures, its also possible those were the half-pendants after all and that the half-pendant wasn't always one room away. But alot of season one temple runs did have one room away half-pendants:

"Gordian Knot", "The Trojan Horseshoe", "King Tut's Cobra Staff", "Mata Hari", "Henry VIII's Great Seal", "Anne Bonny", etc. So it does kind of help narrowing it down. But yeah, it doesn't always mean that the half-pendant was one room away. But you have to admit that this pattern appears in a lot of season one runs.

I am not saying that such a pattern doesn't exist; I agree that there are several episodes that have the half pendant one room away in Season One. I am simply saying that you cannot generalize "All Season One half pendant locations were one room away, so it wouldn't make sense for the half pendant to be located in this different spot for the sole reason that it is not a single room away from the last guard" because you need to account for the now-known outliers and potential other ones.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 06, 2012, 11:35:00 PM
Hey TSM, I went back and watched "The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan" because I had a feeling that temple run had a temple guard layout similar to "Golden Ship" where the last temple guard must've been in the Observatory or Golden Idols, and I also saw a small piece sitting on the Heart Room floor.

I couldn't make the image larger because it would've been too blurry. But you can go back and watch the run yourself (if you have the guts too.   :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:)


Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 06, 2012, 11:38:55 PM
Also, I know one of us can find the "Sultan Saladin" one too. Leah encountered a temple guard in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings and we know there was a guard in the Cave of Sighs. I imagine the last guard was in the Heart Room, creating a deadend or useless detour if the team tried for the direct path. So is it possible the half-pendant is in the Spider's Lair/Throne Room/Heart Room?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 06, 2012, 11:46:13 PM
I highly doubt that the half pendant for "Silver Saddle Horn of Hannibal" was in the Throne Room (photo courtesy of video from youtube.com posted by ChargerTheWolf):):


Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on September 06, 2012, 11:48:49 PM
Here's another screenshot for Cricket Cage:




Working on screenshots for Saladin right now.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 06, 2012, 11:54:23 PM
Hey TSM, I went back and watched "The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan" because I had a feeling that temple run had a temple guard layout similar to "Golden Ship" where the last temple guard must've been in the Observatory or Golden Idols, and I also saw a small piece sitting on the Heart Room floor.

I couldn't make the image larger because it would've been too blurry. But you can go back and watch the run yourself (if you have the guts too.   :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:)

I braved the temple run, and I agree that the object circled for the "Golden Cricket Cage" very well could be the half pendant. At around 1:08/1:09 on the temple run clock, that object-like-thing appears to be there also, and I doubt that it was part of the room "decoration" because there is nothing in the whole rest of the room that looks like it (either in shape or in color).
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on September 06, 2012, 11:55:32 PM
OK, here's what I have for Saladin:







Once again, one or the other can't be the half pendant. I'm kid of leaning toward it being on the Throne's camera-left armrest, if just because what's on the sarcophagus in the Tomb doesn't seem to be the right size and shape.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 06, 2012, 11:57:55 PM
Even better, you got a different shot with the circled object on the ground in the "Cricket Cage" temple run. It does make sense for the half-pendant to be there because its highly possible the final temple guard was in the Room of the Golden Idols or Observatory. After all, all the temple runs on that production day had temple guards that were in the front of the temple rather than the back. Not to mention, the "Golden Ship" and "Map to the Lost Gold Mine" kids met their last temple guard in the Golden Idols. So it makes sense the last temple guard was in the Golden Idols.

And did John or Tia even try the Heart Room-Golden Idols door? I honestly wished this ended in triple capture rather than seeing those two suck it up even more.  :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 06, 2012, 11:59:17 PM
OK, here's what I have for Saladin:

Once again, one or the other can't be the half pendant. I'm kid of leaning toward it being on the Throne's camera-left armrest, if just because what's on the sarcophagus in the Tomb doesn't seem to be the right size and shape.

With only your pictures for reference, I can say that I extremely doubt the half pendant is the circled object in the Tomb of Ancient Kings... it is significantly too small and would have been in the same room as the final temple guard (if we were to assume that the final guard was in a dead-end Heart Room that could be accessed from the Throne Room).
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on September 07, 2012, 12:01:55 AM
OK, here's what I have for Saladin:

Once again, one or the other can't be the half pendant. I'm kid of leaning toward it being on the Throne's camera-left armrest, if just because what's on the sarcophagus in the Tomb doesn't seem to be the right size and shape.

With only your pictures for reference, I can say that I extremely doubt the half pendant is the circled object in the Tomb of Ancient Kings... it is significantly too small and would have been in the same room as the final temple guard (if we were to assume that the final guard was in a dead-end Heart Room that could be accessed from the Throne Room).

The third guard had to be either in there or in the Pirates' Cove, since we know that the other guard that Lea didn't encounter was in the Cave of Sighs, and she entered all of the other rooms.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 07, 2012, 12:02:35 AM
Even better, you got a different shot with the circled object on the ground in the "Cricket Cage" temple run. It does make sense for the half-pendant to be there because its highly possible the final temple guard was in the Room of the Golden Idols or Observatory. After all, all the temple runs on that production day had temple guards that were in the front of the temple rather than the back. Not to mention, the "Golden Ship" and "Map to the Lost Gold Mine" kids met their last temple guard in the Golden Idols. So it makes sense the last temple guard was in the Golden Idols.

And did John or Tia even try the Heart Room-Golden Idols door? I honestly wished this ended in triple capture rather than seeing those two suck it up even more.  :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Yes, they tried the door from the Heart Room to Golden Idols, and, assuming they could properly manipulate hitting a button, the door was locked. This means that they were meant to go up the entire central shaft to the observatory, but Tia never tried that door leading up.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 07, 2012, 12:05:14 AM
OK, here's what I have for Saladin:

Once again, one or the other can't be the half pendant. I'm kid of leaning toward it being on the Throne's camera-left armrest, if just because what's on the sarcophagus in the Tomb doesn't seem to be the right size and shape.

With only your pictures for reference, I can say that I extremely doubt the half pendant is the circled object in the Tomb of Ancient Kings... it is significantly too small and would have been in the same room as the final temple guard (if we were to assume that the final guard was in a dead-end Heart Room that could be accessed from the Throne Room).

The third guard had to be either in there or in the Pirates' Cove, since we know that the other guard that Lea didn't encounter was in the Cave of Sighs, and she entered all of the other rooms.

I know I'm going against my motto by saying this, but the Pirates' Cove (and all of the rooms toward the back of the temple) statistically held significantly less amounts of guards than the rooms toward the entrance way of the temple, so my guess is that the final guard was in the Heart Room (although I admittedly have no way to prove it). Plus, there have not yet been any other half pendants potentially being located anywhere in that entire room.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 07, 2012, 12:06:32 AM
Another one I am trying to look for is "The Lucky Pig of Amelia Earhart". We know the last temple guard was in the Swamp, so I have been looking at the Dungeon and Ancient Kings. No luck so far.  :oops:
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on September 07, 2012, 12:17:00 AM
I don't know if this is it or not (it could just be the light reflecting off of the tarp):




Though considering that the half pendant in the Henry VIII run was there and it was filmed the same day...
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 07, 2012, 02:40:04 PM
I feel that it's time to update the half pendant location list (Locations in italics are potential locations):

SEASON 1

The Golden Cup of Belshazzar
Galileo's Cannonball
The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan: Floor of Heart Room
Elizabeth I's Golden Ship: Floor of Heart Room
The Star of Sultan Saladin
The Trojan Horseshoe: Golden Idols/Shrine actuator
The Lost Logbooks of Magellan: Floor of the Room of Harmonic Convergence
The Moccasins of Geronimo
Henry VIII's Great Seal: On the tarp in the Dungeon
The Lucky Pig of Amelia Earhart
The Treasure Map of Jean Lafitte: Floor of the Room of Harmonic Convergence
The Stolen Arm of Shiva: The base for the monkey in the Shrine
The Stone Marker of Leif Eriksson
The Mask of Shaka Zulu
The Silver Saddle Horn of Hannibal
Alexander and the Gordian Knot: The base for the monkey in the Shrine
King Tut's Cobra Staff: Treasure Room/Shrine actuator
The Codebook of Mata Hari: The base for the monkey in the Shrine
Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat: On Throne in Throne Room
The Snake Bracelet of Cleopatra: Actuator from the Fallen Columns to Treasure Room
The Treasure of Anne Bonny: Throne Room ladder


SEASON 2

The Secret Battle Plan of Nathan Hale: Pit/Observatory actuator
The Walking Stick of Harriet Tubman: Most likely in the Swamp
The Lost Love Letter of Captain John Smith: Inactive Storeroom/Shrine actuator
The Cracked Crown of the Spanish King: Swamp/Dark Forest actuator
The Applewood Amulet of Emiliano Zapata: Pit/Medusa's Lair actuator
The Missing Eye of David: Medusa's Lair (exact location within room not shown; most likely on inactive actuator)
The Enormous Iron Nose Ring of Babe: Troubled Bridge/Observatory actuator
The Very Tall Turban of Ahmed Baba: Rock Quarry/Laser Light Room actuator
The Sacred Ring of Sultan Suleiman: Troubled Bridge/Observatory actuator
The Plumed Headdress of Cosa Rara: Rock Quarry/Laser Light Room actuator
The Lost Lion Tail of Little John: Swamp/Dark Forest actuator
The Crown of Queen Nzinga: Swamp/Dark Forest actuator
The Two Cornered Hat of Napoleon: Rock Quarry/Laser Light Room actuator
The Golden Goblet of Attila the Hun: Pit/Medusa's Lair actuator
The Golden Pepperoni of Catherine de Medici: Pit/Laser Light Room actuator
The Levitating Dog Leash of Nostradamus: Pit/Laser Light Room actuator
The Priceless Portrait of the Polynesian Girl: Pit/Observatory actuator


SEASON 3

The Bifocal Monocle of One Eyed Jack: Ankle of camera-right Headless King
The Much Heralded Helmet of Sir Gawain: Above the left column of markers in the Chamber
The Lion Headed Bracelet of Chandragupta: In or behind a pot in the Storeroom
The Lion Slashed Jacket of Sacajawea: Above the left column of markers in the Chamber
The Snow Cone of Mt. Kilimanjaro: Jester's Court/Dark Forest Door
The Bent Shaving Pan of Jedediah Smith: Jester's Court/Dark Forest Door
The Marble Armrest of Xerxes: Jester's Court/Dark Forest Door
The Golden Spider Web of Robert the Bruce: Above Pit/Storeroom door
The Ivory Hunting Horn of Roland: Left-hand wall of Chamber
The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain: Behind a pot in the Storeroom
The Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King: Above left column of markers in the Chamber
The Lost Taj Mahal Turban of Aurangzeb: Above Pit/Chamber door
The Melted Head of Madame Tussaud: Behind a pot in the Storeroom
The Jeweled Scabbard of Sforza: Above Pit/Headless Kings door
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on September 07, 2012, 04:46:27 PM
Might've found the half pendant in "Galileo's Cannonball":


Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 07, 2012, 05:08:24 PM
I don't think we should list half-pendant locations for runs like "Jean Lafitte" yet since we don't know for sure if those are the half-pendants. But yeah, we are making good progress in this topic when it comes to finding half-pendants. Part of the process is narrowing down possible locations for them, especially for season one. If you can narrow it down, it makes them easier to zero in on them.

And for TSM's image for "Galileo's Cannonball", its hard to tell from that image if there is a half-pendant there. I have to watch the run myself to see if there is something on the Heart Room floor. But it does kind of make sense for it to be there, since the last temple guard was in the Shrine. I say either there or in the Room of the Golden Idols.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on September 07, 2012, 05:12:31 PM
I watched that run again and I think that's just the floor decoration.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 10, 2012, 10:11:11 PM
What do you guys think of this? After rewatching "The Silver Saddle Horn of Hannibal" closely, this is what I got:




In this image right here, there is a small object that is laying on the door leading to the Tomb of the Ancient Kings. It doesn't look like a piece of foam either because it was sitting there before Damian tries the door.




In this image, Damian is staring at something in the door. Its possible that he was staring at the actuator or something, but he is not actually looking at the top of the door.




Not really a good shot, but you can see the object move when Damian tries the door. It looks a little big for a random piece of debris or something from the bottom of the room.




This is the best shot I could get of the object on the door frame. It makes me think that the final temple guard was in the Tomb or the Well.

Looking at the temple diagram for this temple run, I now believe the last temple guard was either in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings or Well. I mean had Vicky not went up into the Heart Room, then this temple layout would've been way too simple if she continued on the bottom floor. I think the team was forced on the bottom floor and would've encountered at least one more guard in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings or Well.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PAK Man on September 11, 2012, 10:28:35 PM
I don't think that's the half-pendent. I just saw the episode on my VHS copy and I think it's just a piece of the "packing peanuts" (or whatever they are) from the Holes of Python. It's far too small to be the half-pendent.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 18, 2012, 11:00:57 PM
For the "Lucky Pig of Amelia Earhart," I feel like the half pendant would have been in the Heart Room or the Tomb of Ancient Kings.  Considering the guards were in the Room of the Three Gargoyles and the Swamp, the third guard must have been in the Heart Room (the only unentered rooms were the Cave of Sighs- I doubt that both entrances would have had guards- and the Room of Harmonic Convergence- the room with the object). In the event that Kristen went into the Heart Room from the Observatory, she would have been taken out there. That means that Scott would have run into the Swamp guard as the third guard.

The half pendant is not visible in the Observatory, Treasure Room, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, Pirate's Cove, Dungeon, or Tomb of Ancient Kings. Therefore, the most probable places in my mind would either be in the Heart Room, since that room was not entered or shown during the temple overview (but was still active during the run, as evidence of having the third guard), or inside the "Sarcophagus" in the Tomb of Ancient Kings. The only reason I mention the Tomb of Ancient Kings is because it would have been obscured from the camera's view, while still being in an unlikely place that the contestant "should" see. In addition, the other episodes from this layout and this production day were all thought to have the half pendant located somewhere on the ground, so why not put it on the ground in a container that cannot be seen by the television viewer?

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on September 18, 2012, 11:06:35 PM
I don't know if this is it or not (it could just be the light reflecting off of the tarp):

Though considering that the half pendant in the Henry VIII run was there and it was filmed the same day...

If you continue watching the run until 0:27 left on the clock, you can see this, which looks to be more like the tarp than a half pendant (courtesy youtube.com video posted by ChargerTheWolf):


Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on September 18, 2012, 11:51:15 PM
I don't think that is the half-pendant in the Dungeon either for the "Amelia Earhart" run. Kristen remained in the room long enough to tell that there was no half-pendant there. I honestly have no clue where the half-pendant is in that run. I have seen it plenty of times and never spot it once. Is it in the Heart Room? We never get a shot of it, so its hard to tell if there was one there. But I agree, the last temple guard had to be in there.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on January 17, 2013, 11:00:14 AM
What do you guys think of this? After rewatching "The Silver Saddle Horn of Hannibal" closely, this is what I got:

In this image right here, there is a small object that is laying on the door leading to the Tomb of the Ancient Kings. It doesn't look like a piece of foam either because it was sitting there before Damian tries the door.

In this image, Damian is staring at something in the door. Its possible that he was staring at the actuator or something, but he is not actually looking at the top of the door.

Not really a good shot, but you can see the object move when Damian tries the door. It looks a little big for a random piece of debris or something from the bottom of the room.




This is the best shot I could get of the object on the door frame. It makes me think that the final temple guard was in the Tomb or the Well.

Looking at the temple diagram for this temple run, I now believe the last temple guard was either in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings or Well. I mean had Vicky not went up into the Heart Room, then this temple layout would've been way too simple if she continued on the bottom floor. I think the team was forced on the bottom floor and would've encountered at least one more guard in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings or Well.

Sorry for the massive bump on this topic, but I think this topic would be helpful in locating where the remaining temple guards were for the "Temple Guard Locations" thread.

I don't think that was the half pendant in the "Saddle Horn" run because in the final few seconds, Damon tried both doors to the Tomb of Ancient Kings, and only the one at the back of the room made the sound effect to show the door opened. I doubt the half pendant would have been perched on the locked door.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on February 21, 2013, 02:12:48 PM
PP4L, what are your thoughts on this?

Thanks to T90sAAT airing Henry VIII's Great Seal again, we might have a lead as to the location of the half-pendant in the run:




Do you think that's the half pendant?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Silver Monkey on February 21, 2013, 03:01:15 PM
It seems to be the right shape, and it fits the "one room away from the final guard" theory.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on February 21, 2013, 03:36:28 PM
It seems to be the right shape, and it fits the "one room away from the final guard" theory.

I agree that the circled object appears to be the right size and is in the "right place at the right time," so to speak. Also, when Nick jumps off of the ladder and onto the tarp, that object bounces a little bit, which suggests that the object was not part of the floor, unlike the object originally thought to be the half pendant in the Dungeon during the "Lucky Pig" run. Since the half pendant was not visible on any actuators or in any of the other places Season 1 half pendants were known to be located (such as in the Throne Room and in the base of the Silver Monkey), that object could be the half pendant in "Henry VIII's Great Seal."
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on June 02, 2016, 06:42:48 PM
Now, forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe I've found the half-pendant from "The Trojan Horseshoe".

It was on the actuator for the background door from the Spider's Lair to the Tombs of the Ancient Kings:



Can I get anybody to give their opinion of my findings?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: PurpleParrot319 on June 03, 2016, 12:35:38 AM
The shape of the object inside the red box certainly looks like it could've been the half pendant. It's right under the button too. I think that's it.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 06, 2016, 09:26:06 PM
Well, the original guess for the Trojan Horseshoe half-pendant was the Golden Idols-Shrine actuator. Since there appeared to be a discoloration and something hanging from the actuator. And it follows a similar temple guard layout in Cobra Staff too. But I rewatched the run again, and it does look like there is something hanging in the Spider's Lair. You can also see something hanging there when Shawn enter the room too. You can even see it swinging too. Although the only reason I don't think this could be the half-pendant is that the Spider's Lair was probably a dead-end and that it would really be unusual to put the last piece there. Especially since the frontrunner would be removed from that room too. But its also possible that is the half-pendant too. Too bad the whole episode is not online because I remember this episode doing a close-up of the temple in the credits. (We see the Trojan Horseshoe again at the end of the run in the Tomb)
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on June 07, 2016, 12:16:00 AM
TRJ, that screenshot was from an online video of the whole episode.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on June 15, 2016, 03:17:58 PM
In fact, I'm sure that screenshot is from my upload.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on June 16, 2016, 02:50:54 AM
In fact, I'm sure that screenshot is from my upload.
Well thanks for the uploads Alec. They're assisting me in my search for previously undiscovered half-pendants. Hope you don't mind me using screenshots from them in this thread.

Also, welcome to Phantom's Temple.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on June 16, 2016, 06:30:52 PM
And hey, I have L.o.t.H.T. episodes on iTunes. When I watched Shawn enter the Spider's Lair with the horseshoe, what was actually swinging was a rope from the room's rope web, not the half pendant. Therefore, the half pendant was hanging on the Golden Idols-Shrine actuator. Also, I'm not new to Phantom's Temple, FYI.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on June 17, 2016, 04:30:03 AM
And hey, I have L.o.t.H.T. episodes on iTunes. When I watched Shawn enter the Spider's Lair with the horseshoe, what was actually swinging was a rope from the room's rope web, not the half pendant. Therefore, the half pendant was hanging on the Golden Idols-Shrine actuator. Also, I'm not new to Phantom's Temple, FYI.
Sorry, I saw that you had a post count of 2, so I assumed that you were new.

However, I'm still thinking that the object that I circled is the half-pendant due to its geometry (thickness and shape) and color. There is something there in that screenshot that is the same color and geometry as the hidden half-pendants that we've seen previously. Also its color is a rustic color, unlike the pure white of that segment of rope that you've referenced.

Also, during the temple run itself we get a clear look at the Idols-Shrine actuator, and there's nothing hanging from it:



My guess is that the Spider's Lair was a double-whammy (Temple Guard & Dead-End room), and that the run was set up like the run from the "Lost Logbooks of Magellan". (There WAS a guard in the Spider's Lair, seen while Shawn was exiting the room) The producers banked on the fact that if the team tried the direct path (ala Shaka Zulu) they would've run into the half-pendant on the opposite side of the room before having to retreat back to the Throne Room to go up. Then Shawn would've had to go into the Spider's Lair, get the half-pendant, then take over at the Heart Room where Lucretia would have been taken out.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on June 17, 2016, 11:01:38 PM
What I meant was in the rundown (when Olmec was explaining the rooms).
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on June 18, 2016, 12:58:07 AM
What I meant was in the rundown (when Olmec was explaining the rooms).
Okay, here is a screenshot of the Room of the Golden Idols during the rundown, with the actuator boxed:



There is obviously no half-pendant hanging from it during the rundown. Also none of the ropes in the Spider's Lair move during the rundown as well.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on June 18, 2016, 08:56:54 AM
That would be because it wasn't in good-enough quality. I'll upload my iTunes quality screenshot and circle the half pendant.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on June 18, 2016, 11:51:40 AM
Here it is:




I saw a brown line under the actuator that I didn't in other episodes. This means that whatever that was would much likely be the half pendant.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on June 21, 2016, 04:23:10 AM
Here it is: http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/AlecB1014/media/Trojan%20Horseshoe%20Half%20Pendant_zpsetywp8ze.jpg.html

I saw a brown line under the actuator that I didn't in other episodes. This means that whatever that was would much likely be the half pendant.
The thing is that that line you've circled doesn't look like it has any dimensional thickness to it. it looks like a shadow or a film "artifact".

It also looks like that screenshot was taken slightly earlier in the episode than mine was. Watch that particular segment again, paying particular attention to the thing you've circled, and I think that you'll find that it disappears as the camera pans left.

However, if you can get a screenshot with your circled item still present at the moment my screenshot was taken, I might be open to the idea that it might have been there.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on June 23, 2016, 07:57:59 PM
And hey, these two new screenshots show where the Great Seal and Lucky Pig half pendants really were:





Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on June 24, 2016, 01:45:06 AM
And hey, these two new screenshots show where the Great Seal and Lucky Pig half pendants really were:

http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/AlecB1014/media/Great%20Seal%20Half%20Pendant_zpsgfelymu4.jpg.html

http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/AlecB1014/media/Lucky%20Pig%20Half%20Pendant_zpskbzfoi75.jpg.html?o=1

Both Confirmed by visual evidence beyond shadow of a doubt.

TSM, please update the OP reflecting that both of these half-pendants were "Hanging from Dungeon-Pirate's Cove Ladder"

Great job Alec!!! You have an eagle eye.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on June 24, 2016, 06:39:16 AM
And hey, these two new screenshots show where the Great Seal and Lucky Pig half pendants really were:

http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/AlecB1014/media/Great%20Seal%20Half%20Pendant_zpsgfelymu4.jpg.html

http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/AlecB1014/media/Lucky%20Pig%20Half%20Pendant_zpskbzfoi75.jpg.html?o=1

Both Confirmed by visual evidence beyond shadow of a doubt.

TSM, please update the OP reflecting that both of these half-pendants were "Hanging from Dungeon-Pirate's Cove Ladder"

Great job Alec!!! You have an eagle eye.

Why thanks.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on June 25, 2016, 06:17:59 AM
And hey, these two new screenshots show where the Great Seal and Lucky Pig half pendants really were:

http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/AlecB1014/media/Great%20Seal%20Half%20Pendant_zpsgfelymu4.jpg.html

http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/AlecB1014/media/Lucky%20Pig%20Half%20Pendant_zpskbzfoi75.jpg.html?o=1

Both Confirmed by visual evidence beyond shadow of a doubt.

TSM, please update the OP reflecting that both of these half-pendants were "Hanging from Dungeon-Pirate's Cove Ladder"

Great job Alec!!! You have an eagle eye.

Why thanks.
You're welcome.

But this doesn't mean that you're off the hook for the Horseshoe half-pendant though. That topic is still under debate/review. :P
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 25, 2016, 07:08:02 PM
I still think The Trojan Horseshoe half-pendant is on the Golden Idols-Shrine actuator. It fits the "half-pendant located before last temple guard" scenario that is present throughout most of Season 1. Besides, the Spider's Lair was definitely a dead end during that run. If you recall, Lucretia tried the Throne Room door from the Pit but it was locked. The only way the Green Monkeys could enter that room would be to enter it from the Golden Idols by pressing down on their bases. That means Lucretia would be taken out in the Spider's Lair AND Shawn would have to enter that room to find the half-pendant. Plus, the actuator in the Golden Idols has that shadow below it similar to the Cobra Stuff run. I have to agree with Alec on it being in the Golden Idols. ;)

And good find with the half-pendant in Great Seal and Amelia Earhart! I remember PP319 discovered it sitting on the tarp during the Great Seal run. It's possible Nick knocked it down when was climbing down the ladder. It would make sense too since Great Seal and Amelia Earhart.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: GreenMonkeys#1 on June 25, 2016, 08:24:03 PM
I still think The Trojan Horseshoe half-pendant is on the Golden Idols-Shrine actuator. It fits the "half-pendant located before last temple guard" scenario that is present throughout most of Season 1. Besides, the Spider's Lair was definitely a dead end during that run. If you recall, Lucretia tried the Throne Room door from the Pit but it was locked. The only way the Green Monkeys could enter that room would be to enter it from the Golden Idols by pressing down on their bases. That means Lucretia would be taken out in the Spider's Lair AND Shawn would have to enter that room to find the half-pendant. Plus, the actuator in the Golden Idols has that shadow below it similar to the Cobra Stuff run. I have to agree with Alec on it being in the Golden Idols. ;) And good find with the half-pendant in Great Seal and Amelia Earhart! I remember PP319 discovered it sitting on the tarp during the Great Seal run. It's possible Nick knocked it down when was climbing down the ladder. It would make sense too since Great Seal and Amelia Earhart.
What would make sense is that the producers noticed the pendant falling down, and decided to keep it in the Dungeon for Lucky Pig, due to the episodes being filmed back to back. Still, that counts as a rare Season 1 half pendant found.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on August 24, 2016, 09:29:30 PM
I noticed something in the Room of Harmonic Convergence in the Lost Logbooks run that COULD be the half pendant.

Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on August 25, 2016, 07:03:47 AM
Not in perfect quality, but here's the Lost Lariat half pendant:

Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on September 12, 2016, 01:22:32 AM
I noticed something in the Room of Harmonic Convergence in the Lost Logbooks run that COULD be the half pendant.



I don't think this is a half-pendant. The thing you've indicated is too small in my opinion to be the half-pendant.

But I think I may have found it: (click on the photo to make it bigger)



I think that thing in the box just above the clock is it.

Alec, could you possibly look at this episode during the temple run with 1:11-1:09 left and see if you can get a better picture of the object I boxed?

Not in perfect quality, but here's the Lost Lariat half pendant:



This is definitely the half-pendant. Chris even picks it up as he walks by the Throne.

TSM, please update the OP to reflect that this half-pendant was "On the Throne in the Throne Room"
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on October 30, 2016, 05:19:08 AM
It says on Legends of the Hidden Temple Wiki that the Treasure Map half pendant was in either the Pirate's Cove (on the weight that needs to be lifted by spinning the wheel to access the Dungeon) or the Dungeon (where the Great Seal and Lucky Pig half pendants were).

http://legends.wikia.com/wiki/Pendants_of_Life#Half_Pendant_Locations

Which of those two would most likely be the correct location and where do you think the third guard was?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on November 11, 2016, 07:06:14 AM
It says on Legends of the Hidden Temple Wiki that the Treasure Map half pendant was in either the Pirate's Cove (on the weight that needs to be lifted by spinning the wheel to access the Dungeon) or the Dungeon (where the Great Seal and Lucky Pig half pendants were).

http://legends.wikia.com/wiki/Pendants_of_Life#Half_Pendant_Locations

Which of those two would most likely be the correct location and where do you think the third guard was?
Given those options, I'd think the half-pendant would be on the Dungeon ladder like in Great Seal and Lucky Pig, and the 3rd guard was in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings like in Great Seal.

However, could you possibly look in your HD episode of Lost Logbooks of Magellan for that thing I mentioned in a previous post?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on November 11, 2016, 10:13:12 AM
It was definitely part of the floor. The wiki says it was most likely hanging on the actuator to the Treasure Room.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Olmec is #1 on November 12, 2016, 09:09:19 AM
Hey Dark Enforcer and Legends Explorer Alec, did you know that I added that list of half pendant locations on the "Pendants of Life" page on Legends of the Hidden Temple Wiki? My name is Leslie Kemp (a L.o.t.H.T. nut), nice to meet you.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Olmec is #1 on November 12, 2016, 09:57:49 AM
You two L.o.t.H.T. fans may be right about the Treasure Map half pendant being in the Dungeon (where the Great Seal and Lucky Pig half pendants were) and the third guard in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings. I updated the the three pages on L.o.t.H.T. Wiki:

http://legends.wikia.com/wiki/Pendants_of_Life#Half_Pendant_Locations

http://legends.wikia.com/wiki/The_Treasure_Map_of_Jean_Lafitte

http://legends.wikia.com/wiki/The_Dungeon

It still hasn't been confirmed, though.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on November 24, 2016, 05:33:03 AM
I was wondering, was the Melted Head half pendant confirmed?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 11, 2016, 12:50:18 AM
The Treasure Map half-pendant was probably in the Dungeon, similar to the Great Seal and Lucky Pig runs. Either that, or it might've been in the Shrine on the pedestal in the center similar to the Gordian Knot and Mata Hari runs. Terry Kay never put the Silver Monkey together correctly IIRC. But I'm guessing that the half-pendant is located in one of the rooms before the final temple guard. So either the Dungeon or Pirate's Cove.

I don't remember if the half-pendant in Melted Head was confirmed, or at least by Kirk. I remember someone posting a picture of it being in the King's Storeroom on the pedestal near a smashed clay pot. Some people have said that the half-pendant was inside the pot, and others have said that it was sitting near the pot. If you judge it similar to the Lost Hornpipe run, then the half-pendant was most likely next to the pot.

To this day, I wonder where the half-pendant during the Harriet Tubman run is located at? It's the only non-confirmed Season 1 half-pendant we did not find yet.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on December 12, 2016, 08:46:50 PM
The Treasure Map half-pendant was probably in the Dungeon, similar to the Great Seal and Lucky Pig runs. Either that, or it might've been in the Shrine on the pedestal in the center similar to the Gordian Knot and Mata Hari runs. Terry Kay never put the Silver Monkey together correctly IIRC. But I'm guessing that the half-pendant is located in one of the rooms before the final temple guard. So either the Dungeon or Pirate's Cove.

I don't remember if the half-pendant in Melted Head was confirmed, or at least by Kirk. I remember someone posting a picture of it being in the King's Storeroom on the pedestal near a smashed clay pot. Some people have said that the half-pendant was inside the pot, and others have said that it was sitting near the pot. If you judge it similar to the Lost Hornpipe run, then the half-pendant was most likely next to the pot.

To this day, I wonder where the half-pendant during the Harriet Tubman run is located at? It's the only non-confirmed Season 1 half-pendant we did not find yet.

1. So the Melted Head half pendant was confirmed?

2. I'd have to agree with everyone else on the Walking Stick half pendant hanging on one of the two Swamp actuators to the Dark Forest. Also, the Walking Stick episode is actually from Season 2.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on December 20, 2016, 05:31:30 PM
The Treasure Map half-pendant was probably in the Dungeon, similar to the Great Seal and Lucky Pig runs. Either that, or it might've been in the Shrine on the pedestal in the center similar to the Gordian Knot and Mata Hari runs. Terry Kay never put the Silver Monkey together correctly IIRC. But I'm guessing that the half-pendant is located in one of the rooms before the final temple guard. So either the Dungeon or Pirate's Cove.

I don't remember if the half-pendant in Melted Head was confirmed, or at least by Kirk. I remember someone posting a picture of it being in the King's Storeroom on the pedestal near a smashed clay pot. Some people have said that the half-pendant was inside the pot, and others have said that it was sitting near the pot. If you judge it similar to the Lost Hornpipe run, then the half-pendant was most likely next to the pot.

To this day, I wonder where the half-pendant during the Harriet Tubman run is located at? It's the only non-confirmed Season 1 half-pendant we did not find yet.

If the half pendant is in the shrine, then a player would move something out of the way. I didn't see Teri-Kay move anything out of the way.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on December 20, 2016, 05:36:29 PM
Anyway, the list of half pendant locations that Leslie Kemp put on the "Pendants of Life" page on the wiki says that the Moccasins half pendant was in either the Heart Room (hanging on an actuator) or the Tomb of the Ancient Kings (inside the sarcophagus). It also says that the Golden Cup half pendant was in either the Swamp or the Heart Room. Which room would be the correct location for each half pendant?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 21, 2016, 12:44:19 PM
The Treasure Map half-pendant was probably in the Dungeon, similar to the Great Seal and Lucky Pig runs. Either that, or it might've been in the Shrine on the pedestal in the center similar to the Gordian Knot and Mata Hari runs. Terry Kay never put the Silver Monkey together correctly IIRC. But I'm guessing that the half-pendant is located in one of the rooms before the final temple guard. So either the Dungeon or Pirate's Cove.

I don't remember if the half-pendant in Melted Head was confirmed, or at least by Kirk. I remember someone posting a picture of it being in the King's Storeroom on the pedestal near a smashed clay pot. Some people have said that the half-pendant was inside the pot, and others have said that it was sitting near the pot. If you judge it similar to the Lost Hornpipe run, then the half-pendant was most likely next to the pot.

To this day, I wonder where the half-pendant during the Harriet Tubman run is located at? It's the only non-confirmed Season 1 half-pendant we did not find yet.

If the half pendant is in the shrine, then a player would move something out of the way. I didn't see Teri-Kay move anything out of the way.

The half-pendant was probably in the Dungeon for this temple run. Since the Blue Barracudas took different paths, there's no doubt that they would've met all three guards. And since Season 1 loved putting guards one room away from the artifact, then the last guard was probably in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings. As you mentioned, Terry Kay never picked up the half-pendant in the Shrine so it couldn't be there. So I believe the best guess would be that the half-pendant was located in the Dungeon, one room before the Ancient Kings. This would follow the "half-pendant located one room away from last guard" trend for Season 1. It was probably in the spot similar to the Lucky Pig and Great Seal run.

One thing to consider though is that the Shrine-Ancient Kings door might've opened during this run too. But I highly doubt that since this layout seems very similar to Great Seal and Kamehameha. And it would be unfair to not let the team have a path where they can find the half-pendant.

Anyway, the list of half pendant locations that Leslie Kemp put on the "Pendants of Life" page on the wiki says that the Moccasins half pendant was in either the Heart Room (hanging on an actuator) or the Tomb of the Ancient Kings (inside the sarcophagus). It also says that the Golden Cup half pendant was in either the Swamp or the Heart Room. Which room would be the correct location for each half pendant?

Not to discredit the Legends Wiki, but some of the information there seems to be just speculation. In fact, the Legends wiki was created by our very own Renegade Pancake on this forum. I know I did some edits too with my The Golden Idols account. The reason I say this is because they have full names of contestants that were never confirmed anywhere else. And they even said Missy from Annie Taylor died.  :shock:

I'm not sure about the Golden Cup run. Since that layout was pretty broken, we don't know where the last guard was hiding. It might've been the Tomb of the Ancient Kings or Dungeon. If so, the half-pendant was probably in the Swamp or Ancient Kings. I'm not sure though how much longer Katherine and Sean's path would be. It seems like they were suppose to go down the Treasure Room chest though.

Geronimo is another interesting case. Some theorize the last guard was in the Shrine. So maybe the half-pendant was in the Treasure Room? I think the temple guards were:

Room of the Three Gargoyles -> Observatory -> Shrine of the Silver Monkey.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on December 21, 2016, 03:04:07 PM
The Treasure Map half-pendant was probably in the Dungeon, similar to the Great Seal and Lucky Pig runs. Either that, or it might've been in the Shrine on the pedestal in the center similar to the Gordian Knot and Mata Hari runs. Terry Kay never put the Silver Monkey together correctly IIRC. But I'm guessing that the half-pendant is located in one of the rooms before the final temple guard. So either the Dungeon or Pirate's Cove.

I don't remember if the half-pendant in Melted Head was confirmed, or at least by Kirk. I remember someone posting a picture of it being in the King's Storeroom on the pedestal near a smashed clay pot. Some people have said that the half-pendant was inside the pot, and others have said that it was sitting near the pot. If you judge it similar to the Lost Hornpipe run, then the half-pendant was most likely next to the pot.

To this day, I wonder where the half-pendant during the Harriet Tubman run is located at? It's the only non-confirmed Season 1 half-pendant we did not find yet.

If the half pendant is in the shrine, then a player would move something out of the way. I didn't see Teri-Kay move anything out of the way.

The half-pendant was probably in the Dungeon for this temple run. Since the Blue Barracudas took different paths, there's no doubt that they would've met all three guards. And since Season 1 loved putting guards one room away from the artifact, then the last guard was probably in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings. As you mentioned, Terry Kay never picked up the half-pendant in the Shrine so it couldn't be there. So I believe the best guess would be that the half-pendant was located in the Dungeon, one room before the Ancient Kings. This would follow the "half-pendant located one room away from last guard" trend for Season 1. It was probably in the spot similar to the Lucky Pig and Great Seal run.

One thing to consider though is that the Shrine-Ancient Kings door might've opened during this run too. But I highly doubt that since this layout seems very similar to Great Seal and Kamehameha. And it would be unfair to not let the team have a path where they can find the half-pendant.

Anyway, the list of half pendant locations that Leslie Kemp put on the "Pendants of Life" page on the wiki says that the Moccasins half pendant was in either the Heart Room (hanging on an actuator) or the Tomb of the Ancient Kings (inside the sarcophagus). It also says that the Golden Cup half pendant was in either the Swamp or the Heart Room. Which room would be the correct location for each half pendant?

Not to discredit the Legends Wiki, but some of the information there seems to be just speculation. In fact, the Legends wiki was created by our very own Renegade Pancake on this forum. I know I did some edits too with my The Golden Idols account. The reason I say this is because they have full names of contestants that were never confirmed anywhere else. And they even said Missy from Annie Taylor died.  :shock:

I'm not sure about the Golden Cup run. Since that layout was pretty broken, we don't know where the last guard was hiding. It might've been the Tomb of the Ancient Kings or Dungeon. If so, the half-pendant was probably in the Swamp or Ancient Kings. I'm not sure though how much longer Katherine and Sean's path would be. It seems like they were suppose to go down the Treasure Room chest though.

Geronimo is another interesting case. Some theorize the last guard was in the Shrine. So maybe the half-pendant was in the Treasure Room? I think the temple guards were:

Room of the Three Gargoyles -> Observatory -> Shrine of the Silver Monkey.

1. It didn't say that Missy from the Heart-Shaped Pillow episode died (it once said that Jessica from the Lost Water Bottle episode died until her last name was heard correctly as "Hilton" and not "Hill" - one user used familysearch.com and found a Jessica Hill who was born on January 15, 1982 and died on September 23, 2001 and it can't be the Jessica in the Lost Water Bottle episode - Jessica Hilton could still be alive).

2. If you watch closely in the Moccasins run when Mitchell climbs up to get the moccasins, you can see the Dungeon Temple Guard door opening.

3. In the Trojan Horseshoe rundown (the scene where Olmec explains the rooms), you can see a brown line under the actuator hinting that it's the half pendant. There was no brown line under the actuator in the Moccasins rundown.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 21, 2016, 06:45:58 PM

1. It didn't say that Missy from the Heart-Shaped Pillow episode died (it once said that Jessica from the Lost Water Bottle episode died until her last name was heard correctly as "Hilton" and not "Hill" - one user used familysearch.com and found a Jessica Hill who was born on January 15, 1982 and died on September 23, 2001 and it can't be the Jessica in the Lost Water Bottle episode - Jessica Hilton could still be alive).

2. If you watch closely in the Moccasins run when Mitchell climbs up to get the moccasins, you can see the Dungeon Temple Guard door opening.

3. In the Trojan Horseshoe rundown (the scene where Olmec explains the rooms), you can see a brown line under the actuator hinting that it's the half pendant. There was no brown line under the actuator in the Moccasins rundown.


1. Well, I'm just curious on how they know the last names for contestants like Missy and John, Ashlie from Dolley Madison, etc. None of those were confirmed as far as I know. Unless the person who found out those names worked closely with the show. I haven't posted on this forum regularly in a couple of years, so I don't know if someone found more interviews.

2. Good catch! I honestly never noticed that about the Geronimo run. It's possible this layout might've been like Sir Edmund Hillary where Mitchell would've been forced down into the Dungeon if he entered the Shrine. Not sure why the temple guard didn't remove Mitchell from the temple though. They didn't have a problem removing Tina from the temple in Kamehameha even though she was in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings by the time the guard came out. Plus, the stone slab was already up in the Pirate's Cove for Mitchell so he probably would've been forced into the Shrine anyways. So that means the half-pendant might've been in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings or even the base of the Shrine of the Silver Monkey similar to Gordian Knot.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Olmec is #1 on December 23, 2016, 10:04:13 PM
To Legends Explorer Alec and The Red Jaguars:

I've updated the list of half pendant locations and the pages:

http://legends.wikia.com/wiki/Pendants_of_Life

http://legends.wikia.com/wiki/The_Moccasins_of_Geronimo

http://legends.wikia.com/wiki/The_Tomb_of_the_Ancient_Kings

http://legends.wikia.com/wiki/The_Golden_Cup_of_Belshazzar

http://legends.wikia.com/wiki/The_Swamp
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 24, 2016, 10:54:49 PM
Galileo's half-pendant was definitely not in the Shrine of the Silver Monkey. Renegade Pancake theorized it was there at one time on his fansite, but it makes no sense for it to be there. Judging by the path Jammin John and Jennifer took, the last guard had to be in the Shrine. So if the half-pendant was in the same room as the last guard, then that would mean the kids would virtually have no time window to find it. It's true that Jammin John opens the Treasure of Anne Bonny in the back of the room, but I think he did that out of confusion since it was the first temple run ever taped. But the half-pendant most definitely had to be located somewhere else.  ;)

Likewise, I don't believe the half-pendant would be in the Dungeon for Sultan Saladin's run. The temple guards were most likely located in Cave of Sighs (confirmed by Lea's exit), Heart Room (popular choice for guards in S1), and Tomb of the Ancient Kings (last guard on path). The last guard could be in the Pirate's Cove I guess, but Season 1 was pretty unoriginal with their temple guard locations. So the half-pendant should be located BEFORE the Tomb of the Ancient Kings.

Just curious, why is Golden Cup listed as the 19th episode? It was pretty much confirmed to be Episode #2 when Nick GaS the entire show in chronological order back in 2007. I know the temple run is in a different layout, but the episode list does not go by temple run order. Here is how the first four episodes should look like:

- Episode 1: Blackbeard (There's a couple of threads that discusses the reason why it's EP1 even though the entire episode is taped in S1L5.)
- Episode 2: Golden Cup (This was most likely the 18 hour episode since it was the first episode actually produced. The entire episode is produced in S1L1, except for the temple run. The reason the temple run was postponed was most likely because of the long production schedule)
- Episode 3: Galileo
- Episode 4: Dead Man's Hand

If you want the episode list to be accurate, I highly suggest that you follow Ed's episode list on the King's Storeroom site. We know for a fact that episode list is correct because multiple channels have referred to the list. For example, when Great Seal aired on T90'sAAT, all of the TV guides listed it as 1x16. But the wiki says that Great Seal is EP14. I don't mean to sound rude, but I just wanted to point out the inaccuracy.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on December 25, 2016, 03:43:44 AM
Galileo's half-pendant was definitely not in the Shrine of the Silver Monkey. Renegade Pancake theorized it was there at one time on his fansite, but it makes no sense for it to be there. Judging by the path Jammin John and Jennifer took, the last guard had to be in the Shrine. So if the half-pendant was in the same room as the last guard, then that would mean the kids would virtually have no time window to find it. It's true that Jammin John opens the Treasure of Anne Bonny in the back of the room, but I think he did that out of confusion since it was the first temple run ever taped. But the half-pendant most definitely had to be located somewhere else.  ;)

Likewise, I don't believe the half-pendant would be in the Dungeon for Sultan Saladin's run. The temple guards were most likely located in Cave of Sighs (confirmed by Lea's exit), Heart Room (popular choice for guards in S1), and Tomb of the Ancient Kings (last guard on path). The last guard could be in the Pirate's Cove I guess, but Season 1 was pretty unoriginal with their temple guard locations. So the half-pendant should be located BEFORE the Tomb of the Ancient Kings.

Just curious, why is Golden Cup listed as the 19th episode? It was pretty much confirmed to be Episode #2 when Nick GaS the entire show in chronological order back in 2007. I know the temple run is in a different layout, but the episode list does not go by temple run order. Here is how the first four episodes should look like:

- Episode 1: Blackbeard (There's a couple of threads that discusses the reason why it's EP1 even though the entire episode is taped in S1L5.)
- Episode 2: Golden Cup (This was most likely the 18 hour episode since it was the first episode actually produced. The entire episode is produced in S1L1, except for the temple run. The reason the temple run was postponed was most likely because of the long production schedule)
- Episode 3: Galileo
- Episode 4: Dead Man's Hand

If you want the episode list to be accurate, I highly suggest that you follow Ed's episode list on the King's Storeroom site. We know for a fact that episode list is correct because multiple channels have referred to the list. For example, when Great Seal aired on T90'sAAT, all of the TV guides listed it as 1x16. But the wiki says that Great Seal is EP14. I don't mean to sound rude, but I just wanted to point out the inaccuracy.

I read that Leslie Kemp said that episode orders people go by are moronic and don't make any sense and are therefore inaccurate. Speaking of not making any sense, I'd have to agree with the cannonball half pendant being in the shrine not making any sense. It was in either the Heart Room or the Observatory.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 25, 2016, 02:02:54 PM
Just curious, who's Leslie Kemp? Is she someone who was officially associated with the show? It looks like she knows a lot of neat information about the show. I've been away from this forum and show for a couple of years so I'm a little unfamiliar with some things.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on December 25, 2016, 02:41:19 PM
She's a L.o.t.H.T. superfan who has been helping out on the wiki under the username "OlmecisNumber1".
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on December 29, 2016, 09:56:29 PM
Did we ever determine the location of Snake Bracelet's half-pendant? I remember someone suggested the Throne Room like the Lost Lariat run, but I don't remember seeing it during Olmec's temple rundown. Plus, do we know if Chris and Tracy were able to enter the bottom floor rooms? It's possible that the layout might be similar to Anne Bonny if they took the bottom route, but I doubt that. We do know where all three guards are though:

- Cave of Sighs (We can see him during the credits)
- Room of Fallen Columns
- Treasury of the Golden Orbs

If the bottom floor didn't open up for the Silver Snakes, then that would mean the half-pendant would have to be on one of the upper floor rooms. Could it be on the Fallen Columns-Treasury actuator?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on December 30, 2016, 07:00:52 PM
Did we ever determine the location of Snake Bracelet's half-pendant? I remember someone suggested the Throne Room like the Lost Lariat run, but I don't remember seeing it during Olmec's temple rundown. Plus, do we know if Chris and Tracy were able to enter the bottom floor rooms? It's possible that the layout might be similar to Anne Bonny if they took the bottom route, but I doubt that. We do know where all three guards are though:

- Cave of Sighs (We can see him during the credits)
- Room of Fallen Columns
- Treasury of the Golden Orbs

If the bottom floor didn't open up for the Silver Snakes, then that would mean the half-pendant would have to be on one of the upper floor rooms. Could it be on the Fallen Columns-Treasury actuator?

Yes, that location makes the most sense. And for the Golden Cup run, it would make the most sense for the half pendant to hang on one of the two Swamp actuators to the Tomb of the Ancient Kings. What about the Moccasins run? We could be right about that half pendant being in the Tomb even though we didn't see it - it's a "most likely" location. Time to update the OP!
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on January 26, 2017, 10:59:03 AM
Was the golden ship half pendant more likely in the Heart Room or the Observatory?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 28, 2017, 03:41:34 PM
Was the golden ship half pendant more likely in the Heart Room or the Observatory?

Considering Gabby and Joe only entered 4 rooms, you would think this half-pendant was easy to find. To this very day though, I don't think anyone has found it. The only possible locations it seems to be are the Heart Room and Observatory. Gabby and Joe never entered the Observatory, but we get a shot of the room during the temple rundown:




As you can see, there's no evidence of the half-pendant being in the Observatory unless it was hidden on the floor somewhere. I do believe the artifact was in the Heart Room for several reasons:

1.) If the Observatory opened from the Wall Climb, it's possible that it was a route that Gabby and Joe could take directly to the Room of the Golden Idols and avoid triple capture. If the half-pendant was located in that room, that means that the Red Jaguars would have to take a path that avoids a temple guard AND contains the half-pendant.

2.) The second scenario could be that the Observatory opens from the Wall Climb and forces Gabby and Joe down into the Heart Room. If the half-pendant was located in the Observatory, that means that the Red Jaguars would have to take a detour route in order to find a half-pendant, which seems very unfair. I know Season 1 was very inconsistent, but most of the time the half-pendant was located on the direct path and one room away from the last guard.

3.) The Observatory doesn't seem to have any sign of the half-pendant, as indicated with the picture I posted.

I do believe the half-pendant was in the Heart Room, but located somewhere on the floor like in Great Seal's temple run. But I've watched this run countless times, and I have never found it at all. Which is very bizarre considering the team only entered four rooms. I know people hate on this team for being slow, but this was one of the most unfair temple guard layouts on the show. I would give Gabby and Joe a second chance, easily. 
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on January 29, 2017, 05:18:10 AM
1. It was already confirmed that the great seal half pendant was hanging on a tiny hook attached to the camera-right rail of the Dungeon ladder connecting the room to the Pirate's Cove.

2. It would make more sense if the golden ship half pendant was hanging on the actuator to the idols room.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on January 29, 2017, 06:48:44 PM
Are you talking about the Heart Room-Golden Idols actuator? That's a possibility. I'm pretty sure Joe hit the actuator to the Golden Idols before he was removed from the temple. So it's possible that Gabby didn't see it when she was retracing his steps since the door was already open. Other people have suggested that the actuator was in the Cave of Sighs, but I find that very unlikely.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on January 29, 2017, 07:06:44 PM
Are you talking about the Heart Room-Golden Idols actuator? That's a possibility. I'm pretty sure Joe hit the actuator to the Golden Idols before he was removed from the temple. So it's possible that Gabby didn't see it when she was retracing his steps since the door was already open. Other people have suggested that the actuator was in the Cave of Sighs, but I find that very unlikely.

Yes, that one. TSM might as well update the OP reflecting that the half pendant was "Most likely in the Heart Room". Leslie Kemp should do the same on the wiki.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on February 03, 2017, 01:03:43 PM
I have another question: Was the treasure map half pendant more likely in the Heart Room (hanging on the actuator to the Treasure Room) or the Dungeon (in the same location as the great seal and lucky pig half pendants)?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on February 04, 2017, 08:31:12 AM
You know, I watched the episode carefully. I didn't see anything in the Dungeon during the credits. I saw that Aaron put his hand on something after he hit the actuator to the Treasure Room. Chances are, that's the half pendant. If it wasn't, then it was much likely in the Pirate's Cove on the weight blocking access to the Dungeon.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on February 05, 2017, 11:06:48 AM
So here's my screenshot:


It was taken right after Aaron Lane hit the actuator to the Treasure Room. Was he really pointing out the half pendant?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 05, 2017, 04:33:26 PM
I agree, it's possible that the half-pendant was on the Heart Room actuator. This run had two paths in the temple, and both converged in the Heart Room. If the Blue Barracudas stood on the top floor, then they wouldn't have needed the half-pendant. But since Aaron chose the bottom floor, he met the extra temple guard. And since both paths converged at the Heart Room, the half-pendant being located there would mean that it would still be possible for one of the runners to still find the half-pendant. I'm not sure what Aaron was doing in the Heart Room, but it's possible he was trying to signal it back. It looks like he's almost trying to grab it. Eusinia does the same thing in the "Cobra Staff" run too when she touches the half-pendant but does not signal it.

I think the last guard in the Treasure Map run would've been in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings. The half-pendant was either in the Dungeon or Treasure/Heart Room. I don't see the Pirate's Cove being a possibility, although Season 1 had some bizarre half-pendant locations.  :afro:
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on February 05, 2017, 05:36:01 PM
I agree, it's possible that the half-pendant was on the Heart Room actuator. This run had two paths in the temple, and both converged in the Heart Room. If the Blue Barracudas stood on the top floor, then they wouldn't have needed the half-pendant. But since Aaron chose the bottom floor, he met the extra temple guard. And since both paths converged at the Heart Room, the half-pendant being located there would mean that it would still be possible for one of the runners to still find the half-pendant. I'm not sure what Aaron was doing in the Heart Room, but it's possible he was trying to signal it back. It looks like he's almost trying to grab it. Eusinia does the same thing in the "Cobra Staff" run too when she touches the half-pendant but does not signal it.

I think the last guard in the Treasure Map run would've been in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings. The half-pendant was either in the Dungeon or Treasure/Heart Room. I don't see the Pirate's Cove being a possibility, although Season 1 had some bizarre half-pendant locations.  :afro:

I didn't see anything hanging from the Treasury/Shrine actuator like I did in the Trojan Horseshoe rundown. Therefore, what Aaron touched was definitely the half pendant.

TSM, Leslie, time for you two to update!
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 06, 2017, 12:51:35 PM
I don't doubt that the half-pendant is in the Heart Room, but I'm going to watch that run one more time just to see if the half-pendant could be anywhere else. Only because Season 1 had didn't really have consistent hiding places for half-pendants. But I agree with the Heart Room being the location. ;)
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on February 23, 2017, 08:44:35 AM
And was the moccasins half pendant more likely in the Heart Room or the Tomb of the Ancient Kings?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on February 25, 2017, 05:05:01 PM
If you follow the pattern for Season 1, the half-pendant was most likely located one room away. If the last guard was truly in the Dungeon, then the half-pendant was either in the Shrine or Tomb of the Ancient Kings. I wouldn't eliminate the Shrine as a possibility because it's possible that Mitchell could've entered that room instead of taking the Treasure Chest. And the Shrine could've lead to the Dungeon like it forced Tara down from there during the Sir Edmund Hillary run. Plus, the half-pendant was located in the Shrine for quite a few runs - Mata Hari, Gordian Knot, and Stolen Arm.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 04, 2017, 11:12:57 PM
Any ideas where the Lost Logbooks half-pendant was located at? I'm guessing it was in the Heart Room or Treasure Room actuator somewhere. I don't remember if we ever found it since this run never gets a lot of talk?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on March 05, 2017, 04:53:50 AM
Any ideas where the Lost Logbooks half-pendant was located at? I'm guessing it was in the Heart Room or Treasure Room actuator somewhere. I don't remember if we ever found it since this run never gets a lot of talk?
The list on the wiki says that it was most likely hanging on the Heart Room actuator to the Treasure Room.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on March 11, 2017, 07:20:58 PM
I think I finally found the star half pendant:

Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on March 19, 2017, 12:45:59 AM
I'm not really convinced in that being the Sultan Saladin's half-pendant location. If that was the case, then the last guard would've been in the Pirate's Cove. And it feels extremely unlikely that the last guard would be there, especially in Season 1 where they loved to hide guards in the most common and obvious places. I believe that the last guard was in the Heart Room, so that means the half-pendant was in a room before the Ancient Kings. I'm not saying that there couldn't be a guard in the Pirate's Cove, but it feels extremely unlikely IMO. ;)
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on March 19, 2017, 05:59:57 AM
It could have also been hanging on the Wall Climb actuator to the Throne Room.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Olmec is #1 on April 02, 2017, 12:09:29 PM
Here's a list of the episodes with more than one possible half pendant location:
#2: The Golden Cup of Belshazzar - Heart Room or Swamp
#3: Galileo's Cannonball - Wall Climb or Heart Room
#6: The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan - Wall Climb, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, or Torch Room
#14: The Lost Logbooks of Magellan - Wall Climb or Heart Room
#15: The Moccasins of Geronimo - Heart Room, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, or Tomb of the Ancient Kings
#25: The Stone Marker of Leif Erikson - Treasure Room or Torch Room
#28: The Mask of Shaka Zulu - Heart Room, Treasure Room, or Torch Room
#30: The Silver Saddle Horn of Hannibal - Heart Room or Tomb of the Ancient Kings

Which one do you guys think is the correct location for each?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on April 19, 2017, 09:55:29 AM
Here's a list of the episodes with more than one possible half pendant location:
#2: The Golden Cup of Belshazzar - Heart Room or Swamp
#3: Galileo's Cannonball - Wall Climb or Heart Room
#6: The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan - Wall Climb, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, or Torch Room
#14: The Lost Logbooks of Magellan - Wall Climb or Heart Room
#15: The Moccasins of Geronimo - Heart Room, Shrine of the Silver Monkey, or Tomb of the Ancient Kings
#25: The Stone Marker of Leif Erikson - Treasure Room or Torch Room
#28: The Mask of Shaka Zulu - Heart Room, Treasure Room, or Torch Room
#30: The Silver Saddle Horn of Hannibal - Heart Room or Tomb of the Ancient Kings

Which one do you guys think is the correct location for each?

Here's what I'd say:

Golden Cup: Heart Room
Galileo: Wall Climb
Cricket Cage: Wall Climb
Lost Logbooks: Heart Room
Moccasins: Heart Room
Stone Marker: Treasure Room
Shaka Zulu: Treasure Room
Hannibal: Heart Room

Do ANY of you have ANY idea where the star half pendant could have been?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on April 20, 2017, 11:31:15 PM
I really don't believe the Golden Cricket Cage half-pendant was in the Wall Climb. John and Tia spent a lot of time in that room, and I think we would've saw it for sure. Plus, there were a lot of unentered rooms in that run the last guard could've been practically anywhere. Going by Kamehameha and Great Seal's layout, the last guard was probably in the Tomb of the Ancient Kings. I would say the half-pendant was in the Shrine then?

Silver Saddle Horn's half-pendant is tricky because the last guard could've been in the Gargoyle Room or Well. I say the last guard was in the Gargoyle Room because it was pretty uncommon for a Season 1 run to not have a guard in the entrance room. And that would've made the last guard in the Holes of Python judging by the fact the Treasure Room did not open to the Holes of Python. I need to go back and rewatch this episode again though. The Heart Room was probably the location for the half-pendant.

Not sure about the other ones. Runs like Golden Cup, Stone Marker, Shaka Zulu, and Geronimo had some pretty bizarre paths where it was hard to tell the true intended path. Plus, Season 1 was inconsistent with their hiding places. They practically hid the half-pendant in the first area that popped in their mind.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on April 21, 2017, 07:50:10 AM
I'd have to agree. And for the star half pendant, I didn't see anything hanging from either actuator in the Spider's Lair. Therefore, it was definitely hanging on the Wall Climb actuator to the Throne Room.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 01, 2017, 11:15:35 PM
I don't think the Sultan Saladin half-pendant was in the Wall Climb. Lea spent a lot of time in the Wall Climb, and we should've seen it for sure. Plus, we get a shot of the Throne Room actuator and the half-pendant is not hanging on there. I think the half-pendant was either in the Throne Room, Heart Room, or Spider's Lair. Remember, the producers loved hiding the half-pendant in unconventional places in Season 1 like on ladders or on the floor. Season 2 and 3 tried to hide them in places where the contestants would at least look.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on May 02, 2017, 05:41:28 AM
It was more likely in the Heart Room (hanging on the actuator to the Throne Room). Anyway, where do you think the third guard was in that episode?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 02, 2017, 10:23:53 PM
It had to be either the Heart Room or Pirate's Cove. I believe the last guard was in the Heart Room for two reasons:

1.) It was pretty common for one of the central shaft rooms to house at least one guard. In this case, the Heart Room was most likely a detour room.

2.) The Torch Room/Pirate's Cove room space almost never housed a guard. The only time it housed one in the first two seasons was in Lost Logbooks. I see the Pirate's Cove very unlikely, especially when the room was completely avoidable on this temple path.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on May 22, 2017, 08:29:21 PM
So here's a list of all the "most likely" half pendant locations:

Golden Cup: Heart Room/Treasure Room actuator
Galileo: Heart Room/Golden Idols actuator
Cricket Cage: The base for the monkey in the Shrine
Golden Ship: Heart Room/Golden Idols actuator
Sultan Saladin: Heart Room/Throne Room actuator
Lost Logbooks: Heart Room/Treasure Room actuator
Moccasins:Heart Room/Treasure Room actuator
Stone Marker: Treasure Room/Shrine actuator
Shaka Zulu: Treasure Room/Shrine actuator
Hannibal: Heart Room/Treasure Room actuator
Snake Bracelet: Fallen Columns/Golden Orbs actuator
Walking Stick: Swamp/Dark Forest actuator
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on March 22, 2019, 05:33:22 AM
Hey,

I've recently come across an email from a Gmail user named Matt alleging that the half pendant for The Snow Cone of Mount Kilimanjaro was on one of the arms of the camera left tree in the Dark Forest.

@Alec: Do you have a high-resolution version of this episode that you could inspect to try to verify the voracity of this claim?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on March 22, 2019, 06:32:39 AM
I don’t have a high-resolution copy of that episode. Wasn’t it already confirmed that it was in the Jester’s Court?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on March 22, 2019, 07:09:32 AM
I don’t have a high-resolution copy of that episode. Wasn’t it already confirmed that it was in the Jester’s Court?

No it wasn't because I've argued that that hanging bit was a piece of padding or trim put onto the corner to prevent injury.

If you look at the left "wrist" of the camera left tree while the arms of the other tree are flailing about and you'll see something that certainly looks like a half pendant.

I've uploaded a couple of images of the Dark Forest during this run with circles indicating where you should be looking:







The problem is that the lighting of the Dark Forest was so dim that I doubt anyone would've noticed the half pendant there, including the home audience.

Maybe someone else can get better shots than mine.
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: Legends Explorer Alec on March 22, 2019, 07:17:44 AM
They would if only there was a paid YouTube channel with the complete series. If there was, the episodes would be in perfect quality like the ones I have on iTunes. And hey, weren't what we saw in "The Bent Shaving Pan of Jedediah Smith" and "The Marble Armrest of Xerxes" the half pendants?
Title: Re: Half-Pendant Locations
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on March 24, 2019, 05:39:07 AM
They would if only there was a paid YouTube channel with the complete series. If there was, the episodes would be in perfect quality like the ones I have on iTunes. And hey, weren't what we saw in "The Bent Shaving Pan of Jedediah Smith" and "The Marble Armrest of Xerxes" the half pendants?

I refer you back to my post on August 08, 2012 @ 07:30:44 PM for my thoughts on this dangling piece of only Olmec knows what under the Court>Forest door.

These thoughts are still my thoughts about that issue. That it was a broken piece of safety trimming that was later repaired by the production staff, and that Noelle saw something worthwhile to signal to her partner, or she'd have never have wasted the time to signal to Pat.