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Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on July 03, 2006, 07:04:53 PM
Well, i believe the thread title explains the purpose of this thread.

Personally, i just love the bad editting and voice overs that occured on Legends constantly. One of my favorite examples happened in a season 1 episode (I don't remember which.... but it might've been "The Golden Cricket Cage of Kahn").  It was during a moat crossing. The Green Monkeys were going to be the 4th team to cross, but for some reason, they were disqualified! :shock:  Then, the purple parrots ring in 5th and are allowed to advance instead of the green monkeys. What's weird is that, when the green monkeys are running to hit the gong (as Kirk is announcing their d/q) only the boy player runs to hit it. Neither of the monkeys look very excited and their gong light doesn't turn on. Then it shows a bad shot of the parrots ringing in and their gong light turns on. Then is does a far shot where you can see all the teams and their gongs. The green gong is lit and the purple gong is not. They obviously made the green monkeys and the purple parrots redo hitting their gongs so that they could get the shots of their gongs lighting up... Pretty funny if you ask me.... and i really dunno why they green monkeys were d/q'd either... it's pretty unclear.

One more: In "the Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King" Afterthe Baracudas have won the final temple game, Maggie (the girl on the Blue team)'s harness is falling off of her (and it was falling off of her through the entire temple game). Then she steps in front of Kirk and her harness falls off once again and the camera does this weird shot of them and Kirk randomly says "NICE TEAMWORK GUYS!" or something lame like that. Obviously, Kirk did not say that during the original taping. Then in the next shot, Kirk says something stupid like "I should watch my mouth" or something like that.... If you watch the episode, you'll know what i mean. :P


So yeah... your turns.
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: nicklegends on July 03, 2006, 07:36:59 PM
Well, there was one episode where, during a temple game, the basket colors (where teams deposited items) were switched by accident. Kirk said a few words as if he  had over-rehearsed them: ''Oh... Oh, it looks like we switched the baskets by mistake... I see.'' It felt like editing to me.

Also, there were a few temple runs that were voiced over by somebody other than Kirk. Listen to the Heart-Shaped Pillow of Annie Taylor run for example.

There were also a number of moats that were obviously voiced over by Kirk during a replay, because the only action he mentioned was that on the screen.

And finally, in the Mask of Shaka Zulu, the clip where he passes through the Tomb door and grabs the artifact seems edited to me. I can't believe that somebody could finish climbing through a tube, stand up, and turn around in one second.

Actually, wait, there's one more. The intro of The Stone Head of the Evil King was cut short, and the Moat was very poorly edited (since when does fog disappear in an eyeblink?)

That's all I can think of for now, but there are certainly more examples.
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: The 49th Ronin on July 03, 2006, 09:16:23 PM
If you watch 'The Stolen Arm of Shiva,' right after they mention the prizes there's a wipe and you can see a shot of the temple. You can see the Temple Guard in the Cave of Size squating into position.

In the 'Enormous Iron Nose Ring of Babe,' as Joel is returning through The Ledges, a pair of bare Temple Guard feet can be seen walking through the Crypt.
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: nicklegends on July 03, 2006, 09:23:30 PM
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If you watch 'The Stolen Arm of Shiva,' right after they mention the prizes there's a wipe and you can see a shot of the temple. You can see the Temple Guard in the Cave of Size squating into position.

In the 'Enormous Iron Nose Ring of Babe,' as Joel is returning through The Ledges, a pair of bare Temple Guard feet can be seen walking through the Crypt.

There were often cameramen stationed in that room; are you sure it was a temple guard?
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: The 49th Ronin on July 03, 2006, 10:30:29 PM
If it was, I'd like to know why he wasn't wearing shoes.
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: dshban on July 03, 2006, 10:31:10 PM
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If you watch 'The Stolen Arm of Shiva,' right after they mention the prizes there's a wipe and you can see a shot of the temple. You can see the Temple Guard in the Cave of Size squating into position.

In the 'Enormous Iron Nose Ring of Babe,' as Joel is returning through The Ledges, a pair of bare Temple Guard feet can be seen walking through the Crypt.
There were often cameramen stationed in that room; are you sure it was a temple guard?


I just watched it, and it was definitely a temple guard.
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on July 04, 2006, 03:52:25 AM
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Also, there were a few temple runs that were voiced over by somebody other than Kirk. Listen to the Heart-Shaped Pillow of Annie Taylor run for example.


Oh, I know what you mean. They do that for "The Enormous Iron Nose Ring of Babe" and probably a few others.... I think that is Kirk's voice though. Just sounds weird and modified on the voice over.

Oh, on "The War Fan of the 47 Ronin" It's clearly a bad voice over when Elise tries to open the door that got stuck shut. Then they also do some sort of bad editting and show her partner Jeremy as if it was all his fault that the door locked. :roll:

Another one: In "The Upside-Down Compass of Henry Hudson" temple run, we all know that the boy drops the monkey off of the railing,but before he does, there's some kind of weird....thing on the screen.... I don't even know how to describe it... Then for some reason they edit the boy running back to Kirk like 3 seconds after the temple run ends... How'd he get down from the Shrine so fast!?!??! :shocked:
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 04, 2006, 06:39:46 AM
Maybe hes a really fast runner lol I dunno really, I guess it really is bad editing.
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: PhantomBPR on July 04, 2006, 09:36:09 AM
In the lost hornpipe of the pirate captain, as J grabs the horn pipe, you can see movement up in the shrine. I always thought it was a temple guard walking out of the password room (seeing as how no one entered that room, it would make sense that there was a temple guard in there and he was running out since the pipe had been accessed) but many think it was a camera man.
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on July 04, 2006, 09:45:30 AM
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In the lost hornpipe of the pirate captain, as J grabs the horn pipe, you can see movement up in the shrine. I always thought it was a temple guard walking out of the password room (seeing as how no one entered that room, it would make sense that there was a temple guard in there and he was running out since the pipe had been accessed) but many think it was a camera man.


Jarrid did enter the Room of the Secret Password... He went like all the way into the center of the room and then went back and took the Bog passage. I always thought it was a camera man.... cuz then it shows you the angle of Jarrid running through the Room of the Ancient Warriors and the view is from the shrine steps. Not to mention i thought i saw cords as well. :P
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: whammypower788 on July 04, 2006, 01:47:57 PM
To answer the question about who is announcing the temple run when "Kirk is not," it is not, in any way, the fault of the production staff.  It is the fault of Nick GaS.  On some networks, they have the ability to "speed up" shows if they feel that they won't get enough ad time or what have you.  Some networks are more noticeable than others when they do this.

I only know this happens on Nick GaS because I watched the same temple run on the same day in two different time slots.  The one during the 7:00 PM hour was fine, but the 10:00 PM hour was definitely sped up.
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: nicklegends on July 04, 2006, 01:58:55 PM
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Another one: In ''The Upside-Down Compass of Henry Hudson'' temple run, we all know that the boy drops the monkey off of the railing,but before he does, there's some kind of weird....thing on the screen.... I don't even know how to describe it... Then for some reason they edit the boy running back to Kirk like 3 seconds after the temple run ends... How'd he get down from the Shrine so fast!?!??! :shocked:

I believe that "thing" on the screen was actually a Dark Forest branch that was hit by the falling piece. It looked odd to me at first, too... or, do you really mean BEFORE he dropped it? In that case, I'm not sure...

It's really true about him running over there ''three seconds later,'' though. There's no way he could descend from the second floor and run all the way over there in that time.
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: mikeofnash on July 04, 2006, 02:03:02 PM
In seasons 2 and 3, whenever Kirk asks, "Are you ready?", and then they play a recorded blip of kids saying, "Yeah!" Also, canned cheering during the Temple Runs, when it was obvious that there was no audience.
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: nicklegends on July 04, 2006, 02:06:57 PM
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In seasons 2 and 3, whenever Kirk asks, ''Are you ready?',' and then they play a recorded blip of kids saying, ''Yeah!'' Also, canned cheering during the Temple Runs, when it was obvious that there was no audience.

Yes, and there was a very distinguishable fake cheering noise (which sounded peculiarly like a howling sort of noise) that was used in the third season only. I only remember it because it was an incredibly annoying sound.
Title: Re: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: The Silver Monkey on July 04, 2006, 02:22:25 PM
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Personally, i just love the bad editting and voice overs that occured on Legends constantly. One of my favorite examples happened in a season 1 episode (I don't remember which.... but it might've been "The Golden Cricket Cage of Kahn").  It was during a moat crossing. The Green Monkeys were going to be the 4th team to cross, but for some reason, they were disqualified! :shock:  Then, the purple parrots ring in 5th and are allowed to advance instead of the green monkeys. What's weird is that, when the green monkeys are running to hit the gong (as Kirk is announcing their d/q) only the boy player runs to hit it. Neither of the monkeys look very excited and their gong light doesn't turn on. Then it shows a bad shot of the parrots ringing in and their gong light turns on. Then is does a far shot where you can see all the teams and their gongs. The green gong is lit and the purple gong is not. They obviously made the green monkeys and the purple parrots redo hitting their gongs so that they could get the shots of their gongs lighting up... Pretty funny if you ask me.... and i really dunno why they green monkeys were d/q'd either... it's pretty unclear.


It was in John Henry's Lost Hammer.
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on July 04, 2006, 02:46:11 PM
Ooooh, ok! Thanks for that! New it was an episode with a Silver Snakes temple... just couldn't remember which.
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I believe that "thing" on the screen was actually a Dark Forest branch that was hit by the falling piece. It looked odd to me at first, too... or, do you really mean BEFORE he dropped it? In that case, I'm not sure...

It's really true about him running over there ''three seconds later,'' though. There's no way he could descend from the second floor and run all the way over there in that time.

Yeah, the thing before.... like as her's running from the shelf where the last monkey piece was to the holder... it look like the film is cutting out and because of it, we don't actually get to see him physically drop the monkey, we only get to see the torso bobbling in the dark forest tree branches.

And yeah, i wonder why they felt the need to bring him out of the temple and do that cuz i can't recall another time when they waited for a contestant so deep into the temple to come out before they ended the show...
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: mikeofnash on July 05, 2006, 01:09:32 PM
Ooh, I know another one. During that guessing game in the second season, when they had to stick the pegs in the holes, or get squirted with water. Everytime someone got splashed, you could hear canned laughter.
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: nicklegends on July 05, 2006, 05:17:37 PM
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To answer the question about who is announcing the temple run when ''Kirk is not,'' it is not, in any way, the fault of the production staff.  It is the fault of Nick GaS.  On some networks, they have the ability to ''speed up'' shows if they feel that they won't get enough ad time or what have you.  Some networks are more noticeable than others when they do this.

I only know this happens on Nick GaS because I watched the same temple run on the same day in two different time slots.  The one during the 7:00 PM hour was fine, but the 10:00 PM hour was definitely sped up.

You know, this may be true; however, I just took a look at the ''Lucky Pillow of Annie Taylor'' episode on YouTube (http://youtube.com/watch?v=vaRbLnUb_Gg (http://http://youtube.com/watch?v=vaRbLnUb_Gg)), and I timed the temple run with Kirk's distorted voice (which sounds fine until Missy is past the Temple Gate), and it was perfectly timed--second-for-second--with the show's clock. this would suggest to me that the tape was not sped up at all during this run, yet Kirk's voice is definitely skewed.
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: PAK Man on July 05, 2006, 05:32:32 PM
In The Secret Battle Plan of Nathan Hale, it is very obvious that the Temple Run was filmed at a different point than the rest of the show. It's a combination of Olmec's announcing of the artifact's location (he says it in a completely different voice), the fact that we don't see the artifact itself, and during the Temple Games, you can clearly see the Battle Plans on the Throne in the Throne Room. In my opinion, this is one of the worst editing errors in the history of the show.
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: Headbanger15 on July 06, 2006, 06:22:39 PM
I agree with Pakman on that. That episode was pretty badly edited.

Also, in the Trojan horseshoe, during the credits roll when the cameras pans over the Tomb of Anchient Kings, you can still see the horseshoe on the coffin when it was already taken out of the temple.

Also, in The Nose Ring of Babe, Kirk's voice sounded rather high and sped up. That was weird...
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: nicklegends on July 06, 2006, 06:46:38 PM
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I agree with Pakman on that. That episode was pretty badly edited.

Also, in the Trojan horseshoe, during the credits roll when the cameras pans over the Tomb of Anchient Kings, you can still see the horseshoe on the coffin when it was already taken out of the temple.

Also, in The Nose Ring of Babe, Kirk's voice sounded rather high and sped up. That was weird...

Yeah, the same thing that we were talking about earlier with the Lucky Pillow episode. I have no idea why that would happen!
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: Olmec on July 07, 2006, 06:17:26 AM
I think I found out why the Green Monkeys were DQ'd in John Henry's Lost Hammer, but not sure & kinda forget it. I need to wait to see it again, but I remember something about the Green Monkey guy coming out of the moat & banging the gong, when you had to be up on the footboard the whole time. There was also something with the girl, but forget that at the moment.
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on July 07, 2006, 08:09:10 AM
in the helmet of sir gawain it sounds as if the kirks commentary durring the second temple game is dubbed over after he says go and gos back to normal once the clock hits one
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on July 07, 2006, 10:00:34 AM
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in the helmet of sir gawain it sounds as if the kirks commentary durring the second temple game is dubbed over after he says go and gos back to normal once the clock hits one


Oooh, yeah, i think you're right! It sounds really bad, and after the Orange Iguana gets his final shield (or whatever item it was this time) "Kirk" is like "He got it!" and there's still like 3 seconds left and the clock keeps ticking and Kirk is like "Time's up.... er...."
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: tss1011 on July 07, 2006, 11:05:15 AM
Not only that, he also screws up Jahmel's name (calls him "Jamal").
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: The Purple Parrot on July 07, 2006, 04:41:14 PM
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Not only that, he also screws up Jahmel's name (calls him "Jamal").


And in the first temple game, he almost calls the Purple Parrots girl "Jahmel" but he catches himself. He's like "Ja....Donna!"
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on July 08, 2006, 06:29:57 AM
in the mystical spellbook of the imperial wizard after jarid gets captured by the first guard in the ancient warriors. you here some guy (not kirk or jarid or his partner) saying go go
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: Mstrgmr on July 08, 2006, 07:01:13 AM
If you listen in the first season, there are a lot of episodes where you can here someone telling the player somthing
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: The Silver Snake on July 08, 2006, 07:07:41 AM
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in the mystical spellbook of the imperial wizard after jarid gets captured by the first guard in the ancient warriors. you here some guy (not kirk or jarid or his partner) saying go go

It was probably a temple guard; the same thing happened in The Stolen Arm of Shiva.
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on July 08, 2006, 08:22:27 AM
Quote from: ""nick23""
Quote from: ""outer space""
in the mystical spellbook of the imperial wizard after jarid gets captured by the first guard in the ancient warriors. you here some guy (not kirk or jarid or his partner) saying go go
It was probably a temple guard; the same thing happened in The Stolen Arm of Shiva.
i think it was the camera guy
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: ElJarhead on September 29, 2006, 05:09:28 AM
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To answer the question about who is announcing the temple run when ''Kirk is not,'' it is not, in any way, the fault of the production staff.  It is the fault of Nick GaS.  On some networks, they have the ability to ''speed up'' shows if they feel that they won't get enough ad time or what have you.  Some networks are more noticeable than others when they do this.

I only know this happens on Nick GaS because I watched the same temple run on the same day in two different time slots.  The one during the 7:00 PM hour was fine, but the 10:00 PM hour was definitely sped up.
You know, this may be true; however, I just took a look at the ''Lucky Pillow of Annie Taylor'' episode on YouTube (http://youtube.com/watch?v=vaRbLnUb_Gg (http://http://youtube.com/watch?v=vaRbLnUb_Gg)), and I timed the temple run with Kirk's distorted voice (which sounds fine until Missy is past the Temple Gate), and it was perfectly timed--second-for-second--with the show's clock. this would suggest to me that the tape was not sped up at all during this run, yet Kirk's voice is definitely skewed.


Actually, there are some very specific episodes that also featured Kirk sounding edited when they were brand new and first run on Nickelodeon - I have old tapes to back it up. The Snakeskin Boots of Billy the Kid, the Golden Goblet of Atilla the Hun, and The Enormous Nose Ring of Babe (the Ox) are other Season 2 examples of this. My suspicion is that Kirk said something he wasn't supposed to during the live taping or some background noise interfered with his commentary and they had him re-record all or part of the run. It sounds more like a bad dub than a different person altogether. (Or maybe Kirk just had a head cold that day.  :lol: )
Title: Favorite example of bad editting on the show?
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on September 19, 2009, 11:09:39 PM
*Bump*

I think it was in "The Bone Necklace of the Blackfeet Chief", but the moment Olmec announces the artifact name, the audience suddenly decides to go wild. Sounds like bad editing to me. And how about that weird cut after the time runs out in the second temple game of "The Lucky Pillow of Annie Taylor"?