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Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on July 08, 2009, 01:52:54 PM
EPISODES ANALYZED:  ALL

MOAT
Longest: The Silver Saddle Horn of Hannibal (2:35)
Shortest: The Mussel Shell Armor of Apanuugpak, The Pearl Necklace of Gwalior (0:10)

Quickest Team Across (0:07):
- Blue Barracudas (Ryan & Dawn), The Pearl Necklace of Gwalior


STEPS OF KNOWLEDGE
Shortest (6 questions asked):
- The Star of Sultan Saladin
- Ponce de Leon and the Lost Fountain of Youth
- The Medal of Sir Edmund Hillary
- The Jeweled Necklace of Montezuma
- The Levitating Dog Leash of Nostradamus
- The Broken Wing of Icarus
- The Lion-Headed Bracelet of Chandragupta
- The Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean
- The Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King

Longest (11 questions asked):
- John Sutter and the Map to the Lost Gold Mine
- Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress
- The Missing Eye of David


SILVER MONKEY
Shortest:
Green Monkeys (Chrystine), The Lost Taj Mahal Turban of Aurangzeb (0:09*)
Orange Iguanas (Mike), The Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean (0:11)

Longest: Blue Barracudas (Jessica), The Lost Logbooks of Magellan (0:32)

*The base was already in place.
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I'm currently undergoing some superbly detailed advanced statistics, and if you know any information, I'd love any assistance.

What I'm trying to find:
- Quickest completion of the Silver Monkey
- Steps of Knowledge with the most asked questions
- Frequency of each Temple Game ("pulley pillar", "bungee soap mat", etc.)
- Quickest/slowest moat
- Most frequent half-pendant locations

Stuff like that.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on July 08, 2009, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
I'm currently undergoing some superbly detailed advanced statistics, and if you know any information, I'd love any assistance.

What I'm trying to find:
- Quickest completion of the Silver Monkey
- Steps of Knowledge with the most asked questions
- Frequency of each Temple Game ("pulley pillar", "bungee soap mat", etc.)
- Quickest/slowest moat
- Most frequent half-pendant locations

Stuff like that.


I'm thinking "The Missing Eye of David" for the Steps of Knowledge one, since there was a four-way tie on the second-to-last step and at least one question was thrown out.  That makes a minimum of 11 questions.

The half Pendant was almost always next to the the door leaving the pit area for the bottom room of the central shaft, IIRC.  At least, it seemed like it was there the most.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Silver Monkey on July 08, 2009, 02:53:49 PM
The moat in "The Pearl Necklace of Gwalior" was extremely quick.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 08, 2009, 05:01:25 PM
Also, the moat from, "Lucky Medallion of Atocha" and "Cracked Crown of the Spanish King" were extremely slow.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Bamboo Forest on July 08, 2009, 06:09:39 PM
I think that the Moat from "The Imperial Purple Robe of Empress Theodora" was pretty long too.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on July 08, 2009, 06:37:20 PM
The longest Moat had to be either "The Stone Head of the Evil King" or "The Cracked Crown of the Spanish King" (I'm going for the latter personally).
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Bamboo Forest on July 08, 2009, 07:02:46 PM
I think Cracked Crown was approximately 2 minutes 45 seconds. Let me double check :D
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on July 08, 2009, 07:34:17 PM
I think it was the one that was 45 minutes before editing.  It seems like "The Stone Head of the Evil King" and "The Imperial Purple Robe of Empress Theodora" were both about 15 to 20 minutes prior to editing.

I can swear I made a topic on this a long time ago... XD
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Bamboo Forest on July 08, 2009, 07:36:12 PM
That's the edited time, of course. They can't show a 45 minute Moat lol

EDIT: Actually, I think it's 2:25 after editing. I'm not good at math after midnight. :mrgreen:
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on July 08, 2009, 07:53:06 PM
Maybe I misunderstood him, then.  I thought that's what he was going for.

RP, did you want length after editing? ^^;
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on July 08, 2009, 09:02:28 PM
Quote from: ""The Ancient Warrior""
I think it was the one that was 45 minutes before editing.  It seems like "The Stone Head of the Evil King" and "The Imperial Purple Robe of Empress Theodora" were both about 15 to 20 minutes prior to editing.

I can swear I made a topic on this a long time ago... XD
Yes, you did. Right here. (http://http://phantomsden.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=533)

And I think "The Cracked Crown of the Spanish King" was HANDS DOWN the longest. "The Stone Head of the Evil King" was a long most, but not as long as everyone makes us out to be. The fog didnt disappear until the 3rd team gonged in. Where as in, "Cracked Crown," the fog disappeared like when the 2nd team gonged in. For the 3rd longest moat, definately, "The Lucky Medallion of Atocha." The Green Monkeys and the Silver Snakes couldn't even get their first person across before all 4 teams finally gonged in. (And, the fog COMPLETELY disappeared just after the 3rd team gonged in). I don't remember, "The Imperial Robe of Impress Theordoras" moat very well. I think the fog disappeared right after the 4th team gonged in. We'll have to compare videos, to see how long the moat lasted after the editing.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: nicklegends on July 08, 2009, 09:42:07 PM
How about The Golden Cup of Belshazzar? The fog disappeared immediately.





...I'm joking, of course. I'm pretty sure The Cracked Crown of the Spanish King had the longest Moat, at 2:25 (edited). The Lucky Medallion of Atocha's was 2:04.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Bamboo Forest on July 08, 2009, 09:43:33 PM
LMAO! Nicklegends, you're still one of the funniest here.

How long was Purple Robe? I don't have that episode right now, but....
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: Asian Legends Fan on July 08, 2009, 10:33:13 PM
It's not Purple Robe. Purple Robe was 1:33. I believe Cracked Crown was about 2:27.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on July 09, 2009, 07:48:24 AM
Yeah, post-editing.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Purple Parrot on July 09, 2009, 08:56:11 AM
Quickest completion of the silver monkey was The Bone Necklace of the Blackfeet Chief. Brandon was so tall that he could grab two pieces of the monkey at the same time and it only took him like 11 seconds (starting from when he touched the first piece to when the doors opened).

Purple Parrots OWNAGE! <333


The first thing that came to my mind for "longest moat" was the Cracked Crown of the Spanish King so I'm gonna have to agree with that.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on July 09, 2009, 10:09:15 AM
I've analyzed Season 1, and here's what I have:

MOAT
Longest:  The Silver Saddle Horn of Hannibal (2:35)
Shortest:  The Star of Sultan Saladin (0:24)

Quickest Teams Across (0:20):
- Green Monkeys, Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress


STEPS OF KNOWLEDGE
Shortest (6 questions asked):
- The Star of Sultan Saladin
- Ponce de Leon and the Lost Fountain of Youth
- The Medal of Sir Edmund Hillary

Longest (11 questions asked):
- John Sutter and the Map to the Lost Gold Mine
- Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress


SILVER MONKEY
Shortest: Green Monkeys (Shawn), The Trojan Horseshoe (0:14)
Longest: Blue Barracudas (Jessica), The Lost Logbooks of Magellan (0:32)
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Purple Parrot on July 09, 2009, 10:17:54 AM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
I've analyzed the first thirty episodes, and here's what I have:

SILVER MONKEY
Longest: Blue Barracudas (Jessica), The Lost Logbooks of Magellan (0:32)

Get ready to change that statistic when you watch the Jeweled Necklace of Montezuma...

EDIT: Oh wait, I forgot, she doesn't complete it. Whoops!
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: nicklegends on July 09, 2009, 12:26:18 PM
Quote from: ""The Purple Parrot""
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
I've analyzed the first thirty episodes, and here's what I have:

SILVER MONKEY
Longest: Blue Barracudas (Jessica), The Lost Logbooks of Magellan (0:32)
Get ready to change that statistic when you watch the Jeweled Necklace of Montezuma...

EDIT: Oh wait, I forgot, she doesn't complete it. Whoops!


Of course, if Mo were there, she would add an additional penalty for spotter assistance. I had no idea the Hannibal episode's Moat was that long, though... I wonder what other gems we'll uncover?
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Bamboo Forest on July 09, 2009, 05:39:54 PM
Lucky Medallion's moat was 2:02, so that's definately not the longest. Just in case you're doing like "2nd longest moat" and "3rd longest moat".
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on July 09, 2009, 06:47:10 PM
UPDATE!

Green Monkeys from Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress crossed the moat in 0:20.

They also have a Steps of Knowledge with eleven questions.

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GOOD LORD does Ron (The Treasure of Anne Bonny) cheat during the Moat.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on July 09, 2009, 07:50:36 PM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
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GOOD LORD does Ron (The Treasure of Anne Bonny) cheat during the Moat.


I was waiting for someone to notice that. Yes he totally cheates in the moat and not an honest mistake cheat its an all out I'm gonna win cheat.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Silver Monkey on July 09, 2009, 08:09:21 PM
And then he totally blows it in the run by descending the central shaft.

Karma's a bitch, huh, Ron?
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Purple Parrot on July 13, 2009, 09:08:29 AM
Ya, doesn't he like... walk across the moat instead of crawling on the tubes?
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on July 13, 2009, 02:48:57 PM
Quote from: ""notundercovercop327""
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
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GOOD LORD does Ron (The Treasure of Anne Bonny) cheat during the Moat.

I was waiting for someone to notice that. Yes he totally cheates in the moat and not an honest mistake cheat its an all out I'm gonna win cheat.

Quote from: ""The Purple Parrot""
Ya, doesn't he like... walk across the moat instead of crawling on the tubes?

Yes, Ron did intentionally cheat in the moat by running across the bottom of the moat while depressing the rings to make it look like he was still on top of them.

Quote from: ""The Silver Monkey""
And then he totally blows it in the run by descending the central shaft.

Karma's a bitch, huh, Ron?


:lol: Yes TSM, it is so totally funny how his bad Karma did finally bite him in the ass in the Temple.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: nicklegends on July 14, 2009, 02:49:58 PM
Quote from: ""The Silver Monkey""
The moat in "The Pearl Necklace of Gwalior" was extremely quick.


I just checked it: it's literally only ten seconds long.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on August 07, 2009, 12:13:27 PM
Someone check Apanuugpak's moat.  That one was super fast, too.

Episodes 201-208 have been analyzed.

Brandon completed the Silver Monkey in twelve seconds.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: nicklegends on August 07, 2009, 03:21:32 PM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
Someone check Apanuugpak's moat.  That one was super fast, too.

Episodes 201-208 have been analyzed.

Brandon completed the Silver Monkey in twelve seconds.


Twelve seconds for Apanuugpak's Moat.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on August 07, 2009, 04:22:35 PM
Time for the Cracked Crown's moat:  2:27.  Not long enough to overthrow Hannibal.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on August 07, 2009, 04:57:44 PM
Seriously? Woah...

My guess for the slowest silver monkey assembly in Season 2 was Joel.  He took 30 seconds IIRC, though obviously that's still not enough to beat Jessica.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on August 08, 2009, 12:24:00 AM
Quote from: ""The Ancient Warrior""
IIRC


Sorry, but what does this acronym stand for? My mind is drawing a blank!
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 08, 2009, 12:25:40 AM
If I remember correctly.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Dark Enforcer on August 08, 2009, 12:27:41 AM
Quote from: ""Red Jaguars Fan""
If I remember correctly.


Oh, okay!!! Thanks, RJF!!! Guess IDRC there, huh!!!
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on August 09, 2009, 04:20:38 PM
"Um, a scaffolding?"

The Missing Eye of David featured an 11-question Steps of Knowledge.  (Including being one of two episodes so far that allowed three responses to one question!  Yes, it happened more than once.)

It also has the shortest moat so far, at 19 seconds.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Bamboo Forest on August 09, 2009, 04:22:35 PM
Really? What was the other time?
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on August 09, 2009, 04:30:09 PM
The Mush Pot Hat of Johnny Appleseed.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on August 09, 2009, 04:34:39 PM
Does anyone remember what the question was in the Mush Pot Hat episode? I want to say it was distance-related, but I can't swear to it...
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Bamboo Forest on August 09, 2009, 04:37:42 PM
*Goes into Episode Collection and Checks*

Damn, VLC is crashing on me. :( Time to switch over to my new laptop...
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: nicklegends on August 09, 2009, 07:03:02 PM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
It also has the shortest moat so far, at 19 seconds.

Didn't we say Gwalior's was ten seconds long?
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on August 09, 2009, 07:04:00 PM
I think he means the shortest of Season 2.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on August 09, 2009, 07:10:26 PM
Quote from: ""nicklegends""
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
It also has the shortest moat so far, at 19 seconds.
Didn't we say Gwalior's was ten seconds long?

Out of the ones I've analyzed thoroughly.  I'm sure Gwalior will supersede it.

Quote from: ""The Ancient Warrior""
Does anyone remember what the question was in the Mush Pot Hat episode? I want to say it was distance-related, but I can't swear to it...


OLMEC:  According to legend, how far did Johnny run in order to warn the settlers?  30 miles,...
*DING*
KIRK:  Blue Barracudas.
BLUE GIRL:  One week?  ~~~1~~~
OLMEC:  That is incorrect.  The three choices are: 30 miles, 300 days, or 30 kilometers?
*DING*
KIRK:  Orange Iguanas.
ANGELA:  30 kilometers? ~~~2~~~
OLMEC:  Incorrect.
*DING*
JAMAAL (Green):  30 miles? ~~~3~~~
OLMEC:  That IS correct.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on August 10, 2009, 08:01:17 AM
NEW QUICKEST MOAT (SO FAR):
Danny & Mary (Blue Barracudas) crossed the moat in 12 seconds in "The Plumed Headdress of Cosa Rara".
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on August 11, 2009, 05:25:46 PM
Season 2 has been analyzed.  Here's some fun facts:

In Season 1, the following teams made it to the Steps of Knowledge the following percentages:
Red Jaguars - 82.5%
Blue Barracudas - 75%
Green Monkeys - 60%
Orange Iguanas - 52.5%
Purple Parrots - 52.5%
Silver Snakes - 77.5%

Season 2:
Red Jaguars - 67.5%
Blue Barracudas - 65%
Green Monkeys - 82.5%
Orange Iguanas - 52.5%
Purple Parrots - 62.5%
Silver Snakes - 70%
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on August 11, 2009, 05:30:57 PM
Interesting... The Orange Iguanas got to the Steps the least, got to the Temple Games the least and yet got to the Temple Run the MOST.  Powerhouse much?
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on August 11, 2009, 08:27:52 PM
Okay, here's the new problem.

Mike from The Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean assembles the Silver Monkey in about eleven seconds.

Rate it side-by-side with the Blackfeet Chief episode.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on August 11, 2009, 08:35:59 PM
What about the kid in the Sacagawea episode? Didn't you say he set the record at some point?
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: nicklegends on August 11, 2009, 09:35:31 PM
By my watch, Mike is about half a second faster (12.0 seconds from touching the base until the sound effect) than the Blackfeet runner (12.5 seconds).

EDIT: And by "my watch," I literally mean I used a stopwatch.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on August 12, 2009, 06:38:55 AM
I just rewatched Sacagawea.  Too slow.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on August 12, 2009, 09:11:17 AM
When does the clock start? When the competitor enters the room or when he touches the first piece of the monkey?
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on August 12, 2009, 11:05:50 AM
The clock starts when the monkey is first touched.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on August 14, 2009, 02:09:51 AM
Does it mean touching the base first or any other piece?
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Bamboo Forest on August 14, 2009, 02:12:00 AM
I suppose it would mean touching the first piece first. That means those people like Kelly (The Jeweled Necklace of Montezuma) that grab other pieces first, the first piece they touch should be where the timing starts.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Purple Parrot on August 18, 2009, 04:56:38 AM
The kid in the Sacagawea episode never completes the monkey. Time runs out before he fits the head on appropriately.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on August 21, 2009, 09:01:25 AM
NEW SILVER MONKEY PROBLEM:

The Lost Taj Mahal Turban of Aurangzeb.

I mean, technically, it only takes nine seconds for Chrystine to assemble the monkey from when she touches the first piece, but... does it count?
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: nicklegends on August 21, 2009, 09:14:52 AM
Quote from: ""The Mandarin Hand""
NEW SILVER MONKEY PROBLEM:

The Lost Taj Mahal Turban of Aurangzeb.

I mean, technically, it only takes nine seconds for Chrystine to assemble the monkey from when she touches the first piece, but... does it count?

Hm... That is tricky. Perhaps you should add the three seconds it takes Dean to place the first piece before being caught and denote the total time with an asterisk?
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on August 21, 2009, 09:29:36 AM
Also interesting: the last item in Temple Game #3 during The Melted Head NEVER HITS the basket of the Orange Iguanas.  It should have been a 3-3 tie, forcing a tiebreaker...

EDIT - And hey, we hate on Damien, but he's in the same boat as Chrystine:  eleven-second assembly, but...
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on August 21, 2009, 10:58:46 AM
...it's "Bin Zivov".  Zivov is a Hebrew last name (so is Ze-ev, but that second V is definitely there".  And Bin does mean "son of", but I don't believe it's hyphenated.  "Bin Laden" isn't.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Bamboo Forest on August 21, 2009, 03:14:21 PM
It sure dosen't sound like "Zivov" according to Olmec though...

I've always thought the "bin-Zibab" theory was more reasonable, but whatever... Ya got any sources for that TMH?
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on August 21, 2009, 03:24:10 PM
Quote from: ""The Bamboo Forest""
It sure dosen't sound like "Zivov" according to Olmec though...


Those are definitely V's.
Title: New Legends Research
Post by: The Bamboo Forest on August 21, 2009, 03:30:38 PM
*Goes and Checks*

It kind of does sound like V's in the opening, but at the steps of knowledge it really does sound like he's saying "...to find the Ruby Earring of Benzibab and bring it back here." Oh well...
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 25, 2014, 12:12:27 AM
I completely forgot that this thread existed. :o There are many interesting stats in here. I feel like we can use this thread for different types of research and statistics? I found the Silver Monkey assembly time to be an very interesting stat in particular. I think I am going to go episode-by-episode and calculate the amount of time it takes each contestant to assemble the Silver Monkey.

Here is what I got so far after analyzing the first three production days of Season 1. The time for the monkey assembly starts the second a contestant touches the base.

EpisodePlayerTotal Time
"Galileo's Cannonball"Jammin John17 seconds
"John Sutter and the Map to the Lost Gold Mine"Jennifer32 seconds
"The Star of Sultan Saladin"Lea17 seconds
"The Helmet of Genghis Khan"Taylor26 seconds
"The Trojan Horseshoe"Shawn14 seconds
"The Pendant of Kamehameha"Tina18 seconds

Here are my observations:
- Jennifer's (Lost Gold Mine) Silver Monkey assembly time surprised me. She first grabbed the head part of the monkey, but dropped it on the ground. She then kind of struggled putting it together correctly and kept jamming the head down the right way. She has the slowest assembly so far.
- Shawn (The Trojan Horseshoe) has the fastest time so far. Even though we don't talk about his win too much, he moved at a good pace in the temple. I guess being 15 made the episode be a little easy for him?
- The first five Silver Monkey assemblies came from temple winners. :lol:

I will continue with Season 1 later.  ;)
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: AimYourBrent on May 25, 2014, 02:15:33 AM
I have to imagine that the Season 1 players were showed how to assemble the monkey. Nobody had ever done it before, how could they just know what to do?
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 25, 2014, 02:48:32 AM
Yeah, the Season 1 teams had a walkthrough of the entire temple before they entered it. According to Nick from "Great Seal" at least. They probably showed the contestants how to assemble the Silver Monkey too. But since Season 1 was a learning experience for both the contestants and producers, they probably didn't really show them extensively how to assemble it. The Season 1 kids definitely had a steeper learning curve than later season teams who could look back at old episodes to see how it is done. I am not surprised to see a lot of long Silver Monkey assemblies from Season 1.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: JCW555 on May 25, 2014, 11:27:37 AM
I wonder if when the layouts changed, the contestants were given a more thorough walkthrough of the temple?
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: AimYourBrent on May 25, 2014, 01:44:28 PM
I would have to imagine that all the teams were at least walked through it.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 25, 2014, 11:58:18 PM
I wonder if when the layouts changed, the contestants were given a more thorough walkthrough of the temple?

I feel that the later part of Season 1 did a better job in explaining the rules and giving the contestants more background knowledge of the temple. If you notice, most of the later Season 1 teams weren't as confused by the temple as the earlier Season 1 teams. Not to say that they were better, but you could notice the difference. And the later Season 1 temple runs had better Silver Monkey assemblies IIRC. By S1L8 and S1L9, the episodes felt like the Season 2 temple almost.  ;)
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: JCW555 on May 26, 2014, 11:28:36 AM
Considering 4/6 of the last episodes of season 1 were wins, I wouldn't be surprised. The other two...well...Chris (and Kirk Fogg, to a lesser extent), and Ron happened.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 26, 2014, 12:49:38 PM
Moving on, I covered more of Season 1 all the way until Joan of Arc:

EpisodePlayerTotal Time
"Galileo's Cannonball"Jammin John17 seconds
"John Sutter and the Map to the Lost Gold Mine"Jennifer32 seconds
"The Star of Sultan Saladin"Lea17 seconds
"The Helmet of Genghis Khan"Taylor26 seconds
"The Trojan Horseshoe"Shawn14 seconds
"The Pendant of Kamehameha"Tina18 seconds
"The Lost Logbooks of Magellan"Jessica33 seconds
"Henry VIII's Great Seal"Nick19 seconds
"The Lucky Pig of Amelia Earhart"Kristen29 seconds
"Ponce de Leon and the Lost Fountain of Youth"James17 seconds
"The Belly Button of Buddha"Jennifer22 seconds
"The Stolen Arm of Shiva"Evan27 seconds**
**Never completes Silver Monkey
"The Helmet of Joan of Arc"Mandy9 seconds**
**Never completes Silver Monkey

My observations:
- Despite getting criticism for having the slowest Silver Monkey assembly, Jessica from Lost Logbooks takes one extra second longer to complete the Silver Monkey than Jennifer from Lost Gold Mine. Jessica grabbed the first piece with 56 seconds and finishes assembling it with 23 seconds left. It would've been faster if she put the head down the right way.
- The Blue Barracudas so far have the slowest Silver Monkey assembly time. The fastest player was Jennifer from Buddha who finished with 22 seconds!
- Evan from Shiva would've definitely held the record if he had more time. He was not even close before time expired.

Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: PurpleParrot4Life on May 26, 2014, 12:53:55 PM
Evan from Shiva would've definitely held the record if he had more time. He was not even close before time expired.

I'm pretty sure that honor would go to Larry.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 26, 2014, 12:58:51 PM
Considering 4/6 of the last episodes of season 1 were wins, I wouldn't be surprised. The other two...well...Chris (and Kirk Fogg, to a lesser extent), and Ron happened.

The S1L7-SL19 episodes are MUCH better than the first four layouts of Season 1. I mean look at how bad some of those early runs turned out?

- Golden Ship
- Golden Cricket Cage
- Lost Hammer
- Blackbeard
- Alhambra
- Dead Man's Hand (Due to production errors)
- Lost Logbooks
- Jean Lafitte

From S1L7 and onwards, the only real bad run in my eyes was Silver Saddle Horn. And even then, Vicky just had bad luck with choosing a route that was nothing but a detour. It sucked, but she still moved fast and I don't think she was a total lost cause. The runs above just had a horrible outcome. And look how many times the artifact was grabbed too starting with S1L7?

- Sir Edmund Hillary
- Golden Jaguar
- Shaka Zulu
- Cobra Staff
- Blue Pearl (close enough anyways)
- Lost Lariat (although should've been a win. -_-)
-  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
- Lawrence of Arabia
- Snake Bracelet
- Raccoon Collar
- Anne Bonny (see Lost Lariat -_- )

Hell, we didn't even get our first failed escape run until Sir Edmund Hillary. There was definitely a big difference between the earlier half of Season 1 and the alter half.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 26, 2014, 01:00:00 PM
Evan from Shiva would've definitely held the record if he had more time. He was not even close before time expired.

I'm pretty sure that honor would go to Larry.

Larry or Kelly from Montezuma. ;) But Larry wasn't even close even after having a minute to himself. I would really like to see how much time he would've used if he had additional ones to use. :lol:
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Viper on May 26, 2014, 07:51:05 PM
Do you guys think it would be a good idea to make a giant statistics/research thread? We could have room completion times, records, temple game matchups, and everything else that we could research? I think having an easily accessible database would be good for the forum and give us some new topics to discuss.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: AimYourBrent on May 26, 2014, 07:56:12 PM
I support that idea
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Viper on May 28, 2014, 05:50:06 PM
I'm going to start it some time soon. I would really appreciate it if anyone else could contribute to it when possible.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 28, 2014, 06:16:11 PM
I was thinking about posting stats about the number of times a certain temple game was used. Like how the Bamboo Maze temple game was only used in Great Seal and Lucky Pig. Same with the maze game in Thornwood Gavel and Bandit Queen. And Lord knows how many times the "pull yourself up the slope" game was used in Season 1. :P
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Viper on May 28, 2014, 08:41:49 PM
I never knew those games were so rare :o Was one of the episodes with the S3 maze with chambers game on the 20 episode cycle? I remember seeing that game alot.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 28, 2014, 08:58:50 PM
I never knew those games were so rare :o Was one of the episodes with the S3 maze with chambers game on the 20 episode cycle? I remember seeing that game alot.

Not the maze game used in Thornwood Gavel and Bandit Queen. In that temple game, the players had to clear a path of rubble while inside a chamber. At the end of the chamber, they had to pull their loot through. Here is the temple game I am talking about (taken from Thornwood Gavel)




This temple game was not part of the 20 episode cycle since neither Bandit Queen or Thornwood Gavel was part of it. You are thinking of the maze game where the players had to jump on trampolines. Similar to the one Jeremy cheated in Robert the Bruce. That temple game DID appear in the 20 episode cycle and a lot in S3. Some of the 20 episode cycle temple games included Robert the Bruce and Comet-Embroidered Battle Flag. ;)
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on May 29, 2014, 12:53:06 PM
Here are some more Silver Monkey assembly times as I finish off with Season 1:

EpisodePlayerTotal Time
"Galileo's Cannonball"Jammin John17 seconds
"John Sutter and the Map to the Lost Gold Mine"Jennifer32 seconds
"The Star of Sultan Saladin"Lea17 seconds
"The Helmet of Genghis Khan"Taylor26 seconds
"The Trojan Horseshoe"Shawn14 seconds
"The Pendant of Kamehameha"Tina18 seconds
"The Lost Logbooks of Magellan"Jessica33 seconds
"Henry VIII's Great Seal"Nick19 seconds
"The Lucky Pig of Amelia Earhart"Kristen29 seconds
"Ponce de Leon and the Lost Fountain of Youth"James17 seconds
"The Belly Button of Buddha"Jennifer22 seconds
"The Stolen Arm of Shiva"Evan27 seconds**
**Never completes Silver Monkey
"The Helmet of Joan of Arc"Mandy9 seconds**
**Never completes Silver Monkey
"The Medal of Sir Edmund Hillary"Tara24 seconds
"The Golden Jaguar of Atahualpa"Tracy15 seconds
"Alexander and the Gordian Knot"Retina20 seconds**
**Never completes Silver Monkey
"King Tut's Cobra Staff"David18 seconds
"The Dragon Lady and the Blue Pearl"Albert19 seconds
"The Codebook of Mata Hari"Garett24 seconds
"Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat"Chris18 seconds
"Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress"
David14 seconds
"The Snake Bracelet of Cleopatra"Tracy18 seconds
"The Treasure of Anne Bonny"Ron18 seconds

My observations:
- David (Lawrence of Arabia) has the fastest Silver Monkey assembly time so far next to Shawn (Trojan Horseshoe). He would've even had a faster completion if he didn't waste 3 seconds trying to get his head on the right way. But as of right now, both Green Monkeys boys hold the fastest time. (And coincidentally, both were Green's only wins in Season 1.)  :mrgreen:
- Tracy (Golden Jaguar) holds the fastest assembly time for a female player and only took one extra second longer than David and Shawn.
- Despite putting the Monkey Torso in the front of the room first, Albert (Blue Pearl) still finished the Silver Monkey with a pretty good time. That is because he went into beast mode after realizing his mistake. Imagine if he did this from the start? Then he might've had the fastest Silver Monkey time!
- David (Lawrence of Arabia) in my opinion had the best Silver Monkey assembly ever on the show. He grabbed all three pieces at once and put them together like they were nothing. Most contestants couldn't even handle two pieces at once!

I will cover Season 2 later. ;)
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 01, 2014, 10:27:17 PM
Wait, Jennifer from John Sutter assembled the monkey in 32 seconds? :o Or was this a typo?
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 02, 2014, 01:34:46 AM
Wait, Jennifer from John Sutter assembled the monkey in 32 seconds? :o Or was this a typo?

Going by TMH's method, Jennifer grabbed the first Silver Monkey piece with 1:52 on the clock. That was the head part that she knocked on the ground. She didn't finish the assembly until she had 1:20 left. So it took her a total of 32 seconds from the time she grabbed the first piece. That is how TMH did it anyways.  :o
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 02, 2014, 01:52:08 AM
So it really took Jennifer from John Sutter just as long as Jessica from Magellan? :shock: The things you uncover. Wonder what other surprises we'll come across.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Viper on June 02, 2014, 08:31:35 PM
I'm gonna try doing what TRJ is doing, but with the S2 Observatory. Will update periodically with results.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: AimYourBrent on June 02, 2014, 08:55:53 PM
Nice! We're gonna get some fantastic analytics here!
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Viper on June 02, 2014, 09:21:12 PM
That was faster than expected. I start counting seconds when the player started to work on the column . There were a few instances where the contestant touched the column for a second, walked away from it for a second, then went back and touched it again and started walking on it, and those were counted starting at the touch at which work was started on the objective. Monica has the longest time, and Matt has the shortest. Janelle and Kristen's times are long because they encountered a temple guard, and thought that the encounter had opened a door.


EpisodePlayer Time
The Secret Battle Plan of Nathan Hale
Christina16 seconds
The Golden Stallion of Ali BabaKendra7 seconds**
The Silver Cannonball of Grandy NannyAmber8 seconds
The Mush Pot Hat of Johnny Appleseed
Chris7 seconds
The Lucky Medallion of Atocha
Ty8 seconds
The Electrified Key of Benjamin Franklin
Peter10 seconds
The Missing Eye of David
Michael13 seconds
The Ivory Elephant of Scherazade
Monica19 seconds
The Sacred Ring of Sultan Suleiman
Gracelyn7 seconds
The Plumed Headdress of Cosa Rara
Justin9 seconds
The Shriveled Hand of Efoua
Janelle18 seconds
The Silk Sash of Mulan
Steven11 seconds**
The Golden Goblet of Atilla the Hun
Rachelle6 seconds
The Golden Earring of Henry Morgan
Shem6 seconds
The Bonnet of Dolley Madison
Matt4 seconds
The Priceless Portrait of the Polynesian Girl
Kristen18 seconds

**Column was completed, but there was no indicator that a door opened.

This room was less time consuming than I thought it was.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 02, 2014, 09:56:56 PM
Interesting stats! Judging from your post, none of the players really struggled in this room. Monica from Ivory Elephant had the slowest time, but that was because she was putting it together differently than the other contestants. Matt from Dolley Madison and Shem were both amazing in this room too. Especially Matt. Four seconds? That is faster than some contestants completing the Throne Room. :lol: Overall, I loved the Stone Column Observatory because it was challenging without being extra easy or time consuming. ;)

Also, Steven from Silk Sash never really completed the Observatory objective. I would put a little asterisk (*) next to his name like I did with some of the Silver Monkey contestants like Mandy and Evan. ;) Stephen never had the top part aligned.

And to get the colors for each person, you have to highlight the text inside of the
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[td][/td] tags.  ;)
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 02, 2014, 09:57:40 PM
Great, now I want to do these stats. :lol: Question is, which room/stats should I do?
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 02, 2014, 10:00:08 PM
Great, now I want to do these stats. :lol: Question is, which room/stats should I do?

The Treasure Room  :mrpurple:

Just kidding, I think the Jester's Court would be very interesting. I was thinking of doing that one next after the Shrine of the Silver Monkey. Even though luck was a little bit part of the room. There weren't many rooms where luck wasn't involved. The Chamber would be another interesting one.  ;)
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 02, 2014, 10:03:01 PM
Great, now I want to do these stats. :lol: Question is, which room/stats should I do?

The Treasure Room  :mrpurple:

Just kidding, I think the Jester's Court would be very interesting. I was thinking of doing that one next after the Shrine of the Silver Monkey. Even though luck was a little bit part of the room. There weren't many rooms where luck wasn't involved. The Chamber would be another interesting one.  ;)
So I would just time it from the moment the players entered the room, until the room went dark? That sounds interesting to me. Plus, the Jester's Court was only featured in the second half of Season 2 and all of Season 3 anyways. So recording stats from that room shouldn't be too hard of a task. ;)
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 02, 2014, 10:09:57 PM
Great, now I want to do these stats. :lol: Question is, which room/stats should I do?

The Treasure Room  :mrpurple:

Just kidding, I think the Jester's Court would be very interesting. I was thinking of doing that one next after the Shrine of the Silver Monkey. Even though luck was a little bit part of the room. There weren't many rooms where luck wasn't involved. The Chamber would be another interesting one.  ;)
So I would just time it from the moment the players entered the room, until the room went dark? That sounds interesting to me. Plus, the Jester's Court was only featured in the second half of Season 2 and all of Season 3 anyways. So recording stats from that room shouldn't be too hard of a task. ;)

And you don't have to worry about temple guard interference too. If you look at Viper's list, the temple guards were some of the reasons why these contestants had longer stone column assemblies. Particularly Kristen and Janelle. Also I noticed Gracelyn had a 7 second assembly? If she moved as fast as her assembly, then she might've saved her temple run. Of course, she still passed the half-pendant.

But the Jester's Court would be very interesting. You had contestants like Quentin from Red Sash who completed the room in like 3 seconds? And then some really long ass time spent in there too. Like Irish from Bent Shaving Pan.  :oops:
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Viper on June 02, 2014, 10:14:33 PM
Fixed the chart. In Silk Sash, like TRJ said, and in Ali Baba, the column was finished, but for whatever reason no sound effect was played. In Silk Sash, both unlocked doors had already been opened prior to the completion of the room, but I'm not sure about what happened in Ali Baba because the the Pit door opened when the column was completed.  :?:

I want to do the King's Storeroom next, but I'm not sure how to do it, because when there were temple guards in both versions of the room, 1-2 pots were usually smashed before the guard came out and removed the player from the temple.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 02, 2014, 10:21:13 PM
It is possible that the King's Storeroom might've opened from the Observatory in Silk Sash. But Stephen never put the top part on correctly so it was technically not complete. So that is why the sound effect is never heard. I am not sure if the King's Storeroom would've opened, but I say yes it would've if he put it together correctly.

And in Golden Stallion, CJ did put the Observatory together. I am not sure why we don't hear any sound effects in that run. Everything in that temple run is screwy.  :?
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Viper on June 02, 2014, 10:28:11 PM
I'm not so sure that the King's Storeroom would have opened, because Silk Sash's layout basically mimicked Atilla the Hun (back to back runs) sans temple guards. And the column looked like it was correctly completed to me  :?

Anywho, how should I go about doing the King's Storeroom?
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 02, 2014, 10:33:53 PM
I'm not so sure that the King's Storeroom would have opened, because Silk Sash's layout basically mimicked Atilla the Hun (back to back runs) sans temple guards. And the column looked like it was correctly completed to me  :?

Anywho, how should I go about doing the King's Storeroom?

I say the timer should start when the first pot is smashed. But how will it work if the frontrunner smashes a pot and is removed from the temple in that room? Like Matt from Dolley Madison smashed a pot before he was taken out in that room, and Ashlie took his place. Maybe in that run you add both Matt and Ashlie's time together?

I am going to have the same problem with the Shrine for a few runs. In runs like Lost Taj Mahal Turban and Discarded Seal, the frontrunner grabbed a Silver Monkey piece before being removed from that room. So the second runner had less stuff to assemble. I am probably going to have to add both times together.  :?:
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 02, 2014, 11:43:33 PM
Here is some more stats for the Silver Monkey assemblies. This time we move onto Season 2. I went all the way up to the last episode of S2L2 (Annie Taylor :mrblue: ).

EpisodePlayerTotal Time
"Galileo's Cannonball"Jammin John17 seconds
"John Sutter and the Map to the Lost Gold Mine"Jennifer32 seconds
"The Star of Sultan Saladin"Lea17 seconds
"The Helmet of Genghis Khan"Taylor26 seconds
"The Trojan Horseshoe"Shawn14 seconds
"The Pendant of Kamehameha"Tina18 seconds
"The Lost Logbooks of Magellan"Jessica33 seconds
"Henry VIII's Great Seal"Nick19 seconds
"The Lucky Pig of Amelia Earhart"Kristen29 seconds
"Ponce de Leon and the Lost Fountain of Youth"James17 seconds
"The Belly Button of Buddha"Jennifer22 seconds
"The Stolen Arm of Shiva"Evan27 seconds**
**Never completes Silver Monkey
"The Helmet of Joan of Arc"Mandy9 seconds**
**Never completes Silver Monkey
"The Medal of Sir Edmund Hillary"Tara24 seconds
"The Golden Jaguar of Atahualpa"Tracy15 seconds
"Alexander and the Gordian Knot"Retina20 seconds**
**Never completes Silver Monkey
"King Tut's Cobra Staff"David18 seconds
"The Dragon Lady and the Blue Pearl"Albert19 seconds
"The Codebook of Mata Hari"Garett24 seconds
"Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat"Chris18 seconds
"Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress"
David14 seconds
"The Snake Bracelet of Cleopatra"Tracy18 seconds
"The Treasure of Anne Bonny"Ron18 seconds
"The Bone Necklace of the Blackfeet Chief"Brandon12 seconds
"The Mush Pot Hat of Johnny Appleseed"Angela22 seconds
"The Cracked Crown of the Spanish King"Kerry18 seconds
"The Imperial Purple Robe of Empress Theodora"Joshua19 seconds
"The Lucky Medallion of Atocha"Ty18 seconds
"The Applewood Amulet of Emiliano Zapata"
Olivia-Emma15 seconds
"The Electrified Key of Benjamin Franklin"Michelle14 seconds
"The Lucky Pillow of Annie Taylor"Missy25 seconds

My observations:
- The Silver Monkey was not assembled until 8 episodes into Season 2. The first episode it was assembled in was the Blackfeet Chief.
- Brandon from Blackfeet Chief has the fastest Silver Monkey assembly so far. And his episode was the first time it was even touched in Season 2. :lol:
- Despite being slow as balls, Kerry assembled her Silver Monkey as Ty from Atocha. Honestly, she wasn't a clueless player. Just a really slow one. :roll:
- Joshua from Imperial Purple Robe was so close to knocked down his entire Silver Monkey!

And here is an interesting stat for you, Vper. It took Michelle from Benjamin Franklin 8 seconds to complete the King's Storeroom. :o
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 02, 2014, 11:44:57 PM
I care more about Brandon's quick assembly of the monkey. PP Pwnage! :mrpurple:
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: Red Jaguars Fan on June 02, 2014, 11:56:50 PM
If you're gonna do stats for the King's Storeroom, make sure you take into account the number of pots and keyholes they tried (and in Season 3's case, the distance of the pots and keyholes from each other). Same thing for the Jester's Court, the Room of the Secret Password, The Tomb of the Headless Kings etc.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: AimYourBrent on June 03, 2014, 12:41:41 AM
I'm not so sure that the King's Storeroom would have opened, because Silk Sash's layout basically mimicked Atilla the Hun (back to back runs) sans temple guards. And the column looked like it was correctly completed to me  :?

Anywho, how should I go about doing the King's Storeroom?

I say the timer should start when the first pot is smashed. But how will it work if the frontrunner smashes a pot and is removed from the temple in that room? Like Matt from Dolley Madison smashed a pot before he was taken out in that room, and Ashlie took his place. Maybe in that run you add both Matt and Ashlie's time together?

I am going to have the same problem with the Shrine for a few runs. In runs like Lost Taj Mahal Turban and Discarded Seal, the frontrunner grabbed a Silver Monkey piece before being removed from that room. So the second runner had less stuff to assemble. I am probably going to have to add both times together.  :?:

Here's a suggestion:
Start when the first pot is touched and if the front runner is taken out, pause it when the second runner begins their run and pick it back up when the second runner either enters the room or touches something that would indicate that they are working on finishing the objective (key, pot, etc)
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 03, 2014, 06:56:02 PM
I decided I'm gonna do stats for both the Jester's Court and the Chamber. And I want you to give me feedback on it. They should be coming up soon. ;)
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: AimYourBrent on June 03, 2014, 06:57:20 PM
Bring it on!!
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Viper on June 03, 2014, 07:01:18 PM
This will be interesting  :shock:  :)
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: AimYourBrent on June 03, 2014, 07:02:32 PM
Viper are you gonna do the Kings Storeroom?
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Viper on June 03, 2014, 07:03:56 PM
Yep, I'll start it later tonight if I can. S2 should be finished by Friday at the latest  :mrteal:
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 03, 2014, 07:08:55 PM
I decided I'm gonna do stats for both the Jester's Court and the Chamber. And I want you to give me feedback on it. They should be coming up soon. ;)

It will be interesting to see who had the fastest Chamber completion time. IIRC, Lacey from Sforza had a pretty fast completion.

I think we all know which player will spend the longest time in that room. :P
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Viper on June 03, 2014, 07:09:50 PM
I decided I'm gonna do stats for both the Jester's Court and the Chamber. And I want you to give me feedback on it. They should be coming up soon. ;)

It will be interesting to see who had the fastest Chamber completion time. IIRC, Lacey from Sforza had a pretty fast completion.

I think we all know which player will spend the longest time in that room. :P
The longest completion was Clovis girl right?
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 03, 2014, 07:16:20 PM
I decided I'm gonna do stats for both the Jester's Court and the Chamber. And I want you to give me feedback on it. They should be coming up soon. ;)

It will be interesting to see who had the fastest Chamber completion time. IIRC, Lacey from Sforza had a pretty fast completion.

I think we all know which player will spend the longest time in that room. :P
Of course you realize I'm doing the Jester's Court first. It will be easier, since that room was completed less than the Chamber was. ;)
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 03, 2014, 10:04:04 PM
Alright, here are my stats for the Jester's Court. I only did Season 2 so far, and I'll cover Season 3 later. ;)

EpisodePlayerTotal Time
The Silk Sash of MulanSteven14 seconds
The Golden Goblet of Attila the HunRachelle22 seconds
The Leopard Skin Cloak of Annie OakleyChandra15 seconds
The Snakeskin Boots of Billy the KidTony16 seconds
The Golden Pepperoni of Catherine de MediciAqila10 seconds
The Golden Earring of Henry MorganAshley20 seconds
The Milk Bucket of FreydisTarrah6 seconds
The Missing Weather Maps of Charles LindberghNick4 seconds
The Broken Wing of IcarusJason12 seconds
The Priceless Portrait of the Polynesian GirlKristen9 seconds

Only 10 contestants completed the Jester's Court objective in Season 2. And every team except the Orange Iguanas got a chance to complete it. I timed it from the moment they entered the room, until the room went dark. I hope that's accurate enough. And coincidentally, the only two teams to not complete the Jester's Court in Season 2 were Nostradamus and Dolley Madison. Both Orange Iguana runs and filmed the same day. :lol: I'll post Season 3's results later. Thoughts? ;)
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Viper on June 03, 2014, 10:40:37 PM
So many Purple Parrots  :mrpurple: I'm surprised that this room had longer completion times than the Observatory  :shock: And I'm slightly shocked by Kristen's time because I thought she had completed it quicker. Also, Nick was more of a beast than I thought  :lol:
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 03, 2014, 10:49:09 PM
Yeah, literally all the S2L4 and first day of S2L5 temple runs had players completing the objective. Good to see the Purple Parrots are so well represented too. None of which had any slow time. :mrpurple: And yeah, Kristen's completion was a fast one. She got the middle painting to work right on the first try. Nick was especially a beast in that room. :shock: Seriously, he goes in, tries the first painting, and bam he's done. But then again, most of the time this room was luck based. So it does explain some of the quick times. ;)
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 03, 2014, 10:58:58 PM
I am surprised that Kristen didn't have the fastest completion also. I mean the one thing that sticks out about her temple run was how she got her first painting on her first try. I forgot about Nick's fast completion too! Seriously, that kid was a beast in the temple. He made it to his sixth room in under a minute. Of course, we all know what happened after that. :roll: I guess the Priceless Portrait run sticks out more than the Charles Lindbergh one because it was much more exciting and memorable.  :mrsilver:

Also, I am very surprise at how fast Tarrah's time was. Like I said in the past, Tarrah made great time in the temple. It was just that she moved slow through the temple. And even then, she grabbed the Milk Bucket with 34 seconds left. This is why I can see her win the Ahmed Baba run even if she makes the same mistake as Shane.

And look at Aqila's time too. Once again, she is a player that gets way too much criticism. She handled most of her temple rooms just fine. It was the last three seconds of her run that make her look bad.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 03, 2014, 11:10:17 PM
Tarrah tried the first painting, and it worked. That's why she got it in fast time. Same with Aqila, and I also agree that she gets way too much criticism. I don't know, do you think I should have started time when the player went to the first painting? If that's the case, that would shave off only two seconds at most. Maybe I should go back and do a rewatch before moving on to Season 3.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: AimYourBrent on June 04, 2014, 12:27:57 AM
This is definitely not a room of skill, but simply speed, dexterity, and luck. A lot of luck.
Title: Re: New Legends Researchy
Post by: The Viper on June 04, 2014, 09:12:18 AM
I'm interested in seeing how the King's Storeroom turns out, since it was luck based as well.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: AimYourBrent on June 04, 2014, 11:38:15 AM
I'm interested in seeing how the King's Storeroom turns out, since it was luck based as well.

Definitely luck and speed based. So frustrating when players just take their time in that room. Like, there are large vases sitting here asking you to smash them, what are you doing?!?!
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 04, 2014, 12:10:54 PM
Almost all of the rooms of the temple were luck-based in some way. A lot of rooms required skills too, but luck also placed an element in compelting the room. Here is the only rooms that weren't luck-based at all:

- Shrine of the Silver Monkey
- Observatory (Stone Column)
- Chamber of the Sacred Markers
- Lightning Room
- Medusa's Lair
- Room of the Mandarin Hand

Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: AimYourBrent on June 04, 2014, 12:18:07 PM
Holes of Python, Swamp, Spider's Lair, Ledges, Cave of Sighs, Rock Quarry, Troubled Bridge, those are all physical rooms. Not much in the way of luck involved.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 04, 2014, 12:22:08 PM
Yeah, I was thinking about those rooms too. I wasn't sure if they should be added to the list because they really had no actuators. But I think we can modify the list to include those rooms.

Objective Rooms with No Luck
- Shrine of the Silver Monkey
- Observatory (Stone Column)
- Chamber of the Sacred Markers
- Lightning Room
- Medusa's Lair
- Room of the Mandarin Hand
- Rock Quarry
- Throne Room

Actuator Rooms with No Luck
- Cave of Sighs
- Ledges
- Swamp
- Bamboo Forest
- Spider's Lair
- Holes of Python

Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: AimYourBrent on June 04, 2014, 12:32:34 PM
There we go!
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Viper on June 06, 2014, 02:37:44 PM
Season 2 King's Storeroom times


EpisodePlayerTime
The Silver Cannonball of Grandy Nanny
Amber17 seconds
The Lost Love Letter of Captain John Smith
Whitney17 seconds
The Mush Pot Hat of Johnny Appleseed
Angela8 seconds**
The Lucky Medallion of Atocha
Ty12 seconds
The Applewood Amulet of Emiliano Zapato
Olivia-Emma15 seconds**
The Electrified Key of Benjamin Franklin
Michelle8 seconds
The Lucky Pillow of Annie Taylor
Missy12 seconds
The Very Tall Turban of Ahmed Baba
Shane8 seconds
The Ivory Elephant of Scheherazade
Brad15 seconds
The Sacred Ring of Sultan Suleiman
Gracelyn10 seconds
The Plumed Headdress of Cosa Rara
Jessica17 seconds**
The Shriveled Hand of Efoua
Bobby16 seconds
The Golden Goblet of Atilla the Hun
Rachelle14 seconds
The Golden Pepperoni of Catharine de'Medici
Aqila30 seconds
The Golden Earring of Henry Morgan
Shem19 seconds
The Milk Bucket of Freydis
Tarrah18 seconds
The Missing Weather Maps of Charles Lindbergh
Kim17 seconds**
The Levitating Dog Leash of Nostradamus
Jason8 seconds
The Broken Wing of Icarus
Jason11 seconds
The Bonnet of Dolley Madison
Ashley 10 seconds**
The Priceless Portrait of the Polynesian Girl
Kristen10 seconds
** means that the frontrunner was taken out of the temple after smashing a pot and their time was included in the calculation. I started counting time when a pot was smashed. If the frontrunner smashed a pot and was taken after, I continued to count when the 2nd runner touched a pot. Aqila kinda got gypped because she grabbed a pot right before a temple guard popped out, and when he did she accidentally smash the pot and then walked around the room for 15 seconds hitting actuators before she continued to attempt to complete the objective.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: AimYourBrent on June 06, 2014, 04:16:49 PM
Seems like for the most part players completed this objective at a reasonable pace. Shem took a while but other than that and Aqila's unfortunate circumstances, pretty solid from everybody.
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: The Red Jaguars on June 08, 2014, 01:10:09 AM
It is very surprising indeed to see Shem have a long King's Storeroom completion time. Although it really wasn't his fault entirely. He didn't find the key until he smashed the third pot and it was the third pedestal that unlocked all the doors for him. It wasn't that he was struggling with the objective, he just had bad luck with his choices.

And good Lord at Aqila's time! Honestly, the temple guard encounters messed up some of the players times in certain rooms. The same thing happened in the Shrine for some runs where the temple guard takes up a few seconds while the teams assemble the Silver Monkey. Not only does it take them some time to give them the Pendant, but it also frazzles them a little bit too. I think this is what happened to Aqila in this room.

Overall, these were very informative stats like the other ones. It looks like most contestants didn't spend much time in it. At the end of the day though, this room was pretty much the luck of the draw for the contestants. Some got lucky where it worked on the first couple of guesses. Some were unfortunate like Shem where their last guess was the correct one. Luckily, Season 3 made it a little easier where they could all just knock the pots in the middle. (I still like the S2 version much better though.)
Title: Re: New Legends Research
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on June 08, 2014, 02:20:24 AM
Yeah, Aqila got way too distracted by that temple guard. She was so scared she screamed twice, so you can't blame her for getting confused there. Plus, like TRJ/Stone Marker said, sometimes contestants were unlucky enough to get the third pot and the third key to unlock the doors. That definitely ate up some time, like it did with Shem.