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Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 13, 2007, 02:27:00 PM
Now that we have a re-airing of episodes on Nick, we can finally get a concrete order.  A list will be put here in this opening post.  Any discussion of the order can take place here, but please try to keep episode discussion to its respective thread in the Heart Room.

I'll be updating Wikipedia as we find out more.

Read - PRODUCTION NUMBERS ON TELEVISION SHOWS ARE DETERMINED BY WHEN THE SHOW STARTS PRODUCTION.  "The Secret Battle Plan of Nathan Hale," for example, is 2x02, despite its temple run being taped much later in the season.

1x01 - Blackbeard's Treasure Map
1x02 - The Golden Cup of Belshazzar
1x03 - Galileo's Cannonball
1x04 - Wild Bill Hickok and the Dead Man's Hand
1x05 - John Henry's Lost Hammer
1x06 - The Golden Cricket Cage of Khan
1x07 - Elizabeth I's Golden Ship
1x08 - John Sutter and the Map to the Lost Gold Mine
1x09 - The Star of Sultan Saladin
1x10 - The Keys to the Alhambra
1x11 - The Helmet of Genghis Khan
1x12 - The Trojan Horseshoe
1x13 - The Pendant of Kamehameha
1x14 - The Lost Logbooks of Magellan
1x15 - The Moccasins of Geronimo
1x16 - Henry VIII's Great Seal
1x17 - The Lucky Pig of Amelia Earhart
1x18 - Ponce de Leon and the Lost Fountain of Youth
1x19 - The Treasure Map of Jean Lafitte
1x20 - The Oracle Bowl of Delphi
1x21 - The Paintbrush of Leonardo da Vinci
1x22 - The Golden Chains of Zenobia
1x23 - The Belly Button of Buddha
1x24 - The Stolen Arm of Shiva
1x25 - The Stone Marker of Leif Ericson
1x26 - The Helmet of Joan of Arc
1x27 - The Medal of Sir Edmund Hillary
1x28 - The Mask of Shaka Zulu
1x29 - The Golden Jaguar of Atahualpa
1x30 - The Silver Saddle Horn of Hannibal
1x31 - Alexander and the Gordian Knot
1x32 - King Tut's Cobra Staff
1x33 - The Dragon Lady and the Blue Pearl
1x34 - The Codebook of Mata Hari
1x35 - Pecos Bill's Lost Lariat
1x36 - Robin Hood and Marian's Ladder
1x37 - Lawrence of Arabia's Headdress
1x38 - The Collar of Davy Crockett
1x39 - The Snake Bracelet of Cleopatra
1x40 - The Treasure of Anne Bonny

2x01 - The Silver Horseshoe of Butch Cassidy
2x02 - The Secret Battle Plan of Nathan Hale
2x03 - The Golden Stallion of Ali Baba
2x04 - The Silver Cannonball of Grandy Nanny
2x05 - The Walking Stick of Harriet Tubman
2x06 - The Lost Love Letter of Captain John Smith
2x07 - The Diary of Dr. Livingstone
2x08 - The Bone Necklace of the Blackfeet Chief
2x09 - The Mush Pot Hat of Johnny Appleseed
2x10 - The Cracked Crown of the Spanish King
2x11 - The Imperial Purple Robe of Empress Theodora
2x12 - The Stone Head of the Evil King
2x13 - The Lucky Medallion of Atocha
2x14 - The Applewood Amulet of Emiliano Zapata
2x15 - The Electrified Key of Benjamin Franklin
2x16 - The Lucky Pillow of Annie Taylor
2x17 - The Missing Eye of David
2x18 - The Enormous Iron Nose Ring of Babe
2x19 - The Very Tall Turban of Ahmed Baba
2x20 - The Ivory Elephant of Scheherazade
2x21 - The Sacred Ring of Sultan Suleiman
2x22 - The Plumed Headdress of Cosarara
2x23 - The Jeweled Necklace of Montezuma
2x24 - The Lost Lion Tail of Little John
2x25 - The Shriveled Hand of Efoua
2x26 - The Mask of the Man in the Iron Mask
2x27 - The Crown of Queen Nzinga
2x28 - The Two-Cornered Hat of Napoleon
2x29 - The Silk Sash of Mulan
2x30 - The Golden Goblet of Attila the Hun
2x31 - The Leopard-Skin Cloak of Annie Oakley
2x32 - The Snakeskin Boots of Billy the Kid
2x33 - The Golden Pepperoni of Catherine de Medici
2x34 - The Golden Earring of Henry Morgan
2x35 - The Milk Bucket of Freydis
2x36 - The Missing Weather Maps of Charles Lindbergh
2x37 - The Levitating Dog Leash of Nostradamus
2x38 - The Broken Wing of Icarus
2x39 - The Bonnet of Dolley Madison
2x40 - The Priceless Portrait of the Polynesian Girl

3x01 - The Bifocal Monocle of One-Eyed Jack
3x02 - The Comet-Embroidered Battle Flag of William the Conqueror
3x03 - The War Fan of the Forty-Seven Ronin
3x04 - The Much-Heralded Helmet of Sir Gawain
3x05 - The Lion-Headed Bracelet of Chandragupta
3x06 - The Lion-Slashed Jacket of Sacagawea
3x07 - The Secret Map of the Bandit Queen
3x08 - The Thornwood Gavel of Judge Roy Bean
3x09 - The Snow Cone of Mt. Kilimanjaro
3x10 - The Upside-Down Compass of Henry Hudson
3x11 - The Bent Shaving Pan of Jedediah Smith
3x12 - The Marble Armrest of Xerxes
3x13 - The Smashed Printing Plate of Frederick Douglass
3x14 - The Mystical Spellbook of the Imperial Wizard
3x15 - The Useless Map of the Chibcha Chieftain
3x16 - The Golden Spider Web of Robert the Bruce
3x17 - The Discarded Seal of Ivan the Terrible
3x18 - The Mysterious Manuscript of Mary Shelley
3x19 - The Dried Apple Half of William Tell
3x20 - The Missing Portait of Hans Holbein
3x21 - The Ivory Hunting Horn of Roland
3x22 - The Royal Torque of Queen Boadicea
3x23 - The Lost Hornpipe of the Pirate Captain
3x24 - The Enormous Feather of the Me Linh
3x25 - The Red Sash of Tokugawa Ieyasu
3x26 - The Broken Trident of Poseidon
3x27 - The Lily-Crested Crown of Clovis I
3x28 - The Mussel Shell Armor of Apanupaq
3x29 - The Metal Beard of the Egyptian Queen
3x30 - The Mummified Hand of the Egyptian King
3x31 - The Lost Taj Mahal Turban of Aurangzeb
3x32 - The Melted Head of Madame Tussaud
3x33 - The Pearl Necklace of Gwalior
3x34 - The Bullet-Riddled Handbag of Belle Boyd
3x35 - The Lost Whale Bone of Pytheas
3x36 - The Dried Ear of Corn of Sojourner Truth
3x37 - The Jeweled Scabbard of Sforza
3x38 - The Good-Luck Watch of Empress Eugenie
3x39 - The Ruby Earring of Benzibab
3x40 - The Jewel-Encrusted Egg of Catherine the Great
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: nicklegends on May 13, 2007, 04:13:12 PM
We're not guaranteed numbers for any more than ten episodes right now, but I suppose we could do this with what we do find out. This forum is becoming more of a fan site each day!
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 14, 2007, 05:30:05 AM
You know, we were all wrong.  Who knew that the Jewel-Encrusted Egg was episode #120?

At least they ended on a good one.  Plus, it explains the fun camerawork.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on May 14, 2007, 08:39:18 AM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
You know, we were all wrong.  Who knew that the Jewel-Encrusted Egg was episode #120?

At least they ended on a good one.  Plus, it explains the fun camerawork.

Renegade didn't you have a theory that the jewel encrusted egg was the last episode? Well I know someone did whoever it was: Good call
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 14, 2007, 10:12:57 AM
Ahem? (http://http://phantomsden.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=8666#8666)

I only thought so because of Kirk's enthusiasm and the really creative camera shots.  Final episode or not, Kirk probably didn't want to end the third season on a bad note.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: TBombMadeEZ on May 14, 2007, 11:25:20 AM
I love the post afterwards that said you were completely wrong.  :D

So what's airing tomorrow then?  Any speculation?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 14, 2007, 11:37:14 AM
Well, we have a fair chance of it being one out of three...

...I'll say Benzibab.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 14, 2007, 11:50:55 AM
I'm guessing "The Good-Luck Watch of Empress Eug?nie."

Just noticed also: It should've been a 4-for-4 day, but a production defect in the Good-Luck Watch run prevented that.  But hey, three out of four ain't bad.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on May 14, 2007, 12:23:35 PM
Quote from: ""The Ancient Warrior""
Ahem? (http://http://phantomsden.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=8666#8666)

I only thought so because of Kirk's enthusiasm and the really creative camera shots.  Final episode or not, Kirk probably didn't want to end the third season on a bad note.

Sorry :oops:  Well then ancient warrior I officially salute you for guessing the correct last episode.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 14, 2007, 12:29:13 PM
Thank you.  Oh, and no need to be embarrassed.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on May 14, 2007, 12:55:31 PM
Quote from: ""The Ancient Warrior""
Thank you.  Oh, and no need to be embarrassed.

It was the closest thing to an "I'm Sorry face"

But anyway I am going to guess that the next episode is the good luck watch and then benzibab and then the scabbard.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 14, 2007, 12:57:31 PM
The only reason I say Good-Luck Watch is because both it and "The Jewel-Encrusted Egg of Catherine the Great" feature the "giant wheel" Temple Game (not the "Olmec wheel" game that first showed up in Season 2, mind you.)
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 15, 2007, 10:11:32 AM
Okay, never mind, Renegade was right.  But I think it's weird that the two episodes that day to feature the "giant wheel" game were nonconsecutive.

That would've taken a bit of equipment to move.  But I guess it would also make sense for "The Good-Luck Watch of Empress Eug?nie" to have been done immediately before "The Ruby Earring of bin-Zibab" due to the "He's got the watch!" Fogg-Up in the latter episode's Temple Run.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 15, 2007, 10:16:26 AM
My prediction for the bottom eight:

- Gwalior
- Belle Boyd
- Pytheas
- Sojourner
- Sforza
- Eug?nie
- Benzibab
- Catherine
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 15, 2007, 10:40:51 AM
At this point I'm inclined to agree.

BTW, nicklegends, the name does put that accent mark over the second e in "Eug?nie." The legend talks about Eug?nie de Montijo, with an acute mark in her name.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 15, 2007, 10:43:59 AM
I just noticed this.

Note how three of the last four episodes are wins with REALLY EASY layouts, including the Sforza run which, from an interview, the crew told the team how to win.

Before the last day, they were 7-for-36 in the win department.  Suspicious much?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: GIVE ME THE PENDANT! on May 15, 2007, 10:52:28 AM
Hey everyone, don't know if you guys remember me...I've been away at school for the year and fallen very out of the Legends loop, since I don't get Nick GaS at my apartment and have had to rely on my taped collection until now since Nick has started airing again!....Anyways, I have a question I've obviously missed out on. How are you able to determine the episode numbers differently on Nick than on Nick GaS? I haven't watched the past two days since I already had both episodes on tape but judging from the beginings of the episodes I didn't see anything seriously different between the airings, did the credits say something unusual? I'm very interested in knowing how this info was found.

Related question: how can we know which episodes Nick will be airing before they do it. I'm not a fan of getting up at 7:30 only to find it's an episode I already have.  :wink:
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 15, 2007, 10:58:15 AM
The production numbers are given on the Nick.com viewing guide, but we'll have to see the episodes on Nickelodeon to figure out the order.

Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
I just noticed this.

Note how three of the last four episodes are wins with REALLY EASY layouts, including the Sforza run which, from an interview, the crew told the team how to win.

Before the last day, they were 7-for-36 in the win department.  Suspicious much?


It had to be to make up for those days where it was all losses (surely they didn't expect the Pytheas day to feature four losses, not all the layouts that day were very lengthy.)
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: nicklegends on May 15, 2007, 11:20:28 AM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
I just noticed this.

Note how three of the last four episodes are wins with REALLY EASY layouts, including the Sforza run which, from an interview, the crew told the team how to win.

Before the last day, they were 7-for-36 in the win department.  Suspicious much?

It makes sense that they would strive for the 25% win ratio by dumbing down the layouts in the last episodes. But since we're talking about how they made the layouts easier, let's also consider the episodes where they used exceptionally harder layouts, like the Ivan the Terrible run. They might have run ahead on the win count earlier on.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: TBombMadeEZ on May 15, 2007, 01:50:37 PM
How did we determine the Whale Bone as the 35th episode of the third season?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 15, 2007, 02:04:20 PM
It was listed somewhere that the Lost Whale Bone of Pytheas was episode #115.  Forty episodes per season, and... you do the math.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: GIVE ME THE PENDANT! on May 15, 2007, 04:12:49 PM
do we have any idea what the letter after the episode number indicates? Do you think it represents the temple layout?

Also, do these numbers were getting from Nick represent the airing order or the filming order? (Which I'm sure in most cases is similar)
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: silversnakeman on May 15, 2007, 04:17:08 PM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
It was listed somewhere that the Lost Whale Bone of Pytheas was episode #115.  Forty episodes per season, and... you do the math.


Ahem... My site's episode list
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: Turbo Barracuda on May 15, 2007, 04:26:48 PM
first number is the season (1,2, or 3)

the final two numbers is the episode number (01-40)
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: nicklegends on May 15, 2007, 04:27:22 PM
Quote from: ""silversnakeman""
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
It was listed somewhere that the Lost Whale Bone of Pytheas was episode #115.  Forty episodes per season, and... you do the math.

Ahem... My site's episode list

I really don't think that comment responds to any prompt... In fact, the question of how we know the episode number is a good one. I learned that the Whalebone of Pytheas was episode #115 because it was described as such during the show's brief appearance on TurboNick. There is a possibility that we will see an inconsistency between the recently shown episodes and that designation, but here's hoping they'll be the same. The episode should show next Monday.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: GIVE ME THE PENDANT! on May 15, 2007, 07:40:22 PM
Quote from: ""The Blue Barracuda""
first number is the season (1,2, or 3)

the final two numbers is the episode number (01-40)


I got that part but you know the letter I'm talking about? For example on today's ep it says:
338K

Then for tomorrows:
337K

but then for friday:
336J

so obviously they are airing the episodes in reverse order but then they are including a mystery letter at the end...my thought was maybe it represents temple layouts, or filming days, like even though we'll say it may be episode 23 if it has the letter D that might mean it was the 4th day of filming that season, I might be way off but thats my guess. You'll notice the letters are also going in descending order just like the episodes. Anyone know for sure?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: nicklegends on May 15, 2007, 08:33:41 PM
Quote from: ""GIVE ME THE PENDANT!""
Quote from: ""The Blue Barracuda""
first number is the season (1,2, or 3)

the final two numbers is the episode number (01-40)

I got that part but you know the letter I'm talking about? For example on today's ep it says:
338K

Then for tomorrows:
337K

but then for friday:
336J

so obviously they are airing the episodes in reverse order but then they are including a mystery letter at the end...my thought was maybe it represents temple layouts, or filming days, like even though we'll say it may be episode 23 if it has the letter D that might mean it was the 4th day of filming that season, I might be way off but thats my guess. You'll notice the letters are also going in descending order just like the episodes. Anyone know for sure?

I can't imagine anybody knows for sure, but in all probability it is the taping day. Renegade and I both came to that conclusion independently in another thread (but I'm too lazy to link to it).
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: TBombMadeEZ on May 15, 2007, 08:54:12 PM
I was just curious, and now I have the explanation.

This is pretty sweet though, with this schedule Nick.com put up, it feels like a door just opened up and we're tryin to figure out everything inside of it.

Thank you Nick for giving us more to talk about. ;-D
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: nicklegends on May 15, 2007, 08:58:26 PM
Quote from: ""TBombMadeEZ""
I was just curious, and now I have the explanation.

This is pretty sweet though, with this schedule Nick.com put up, it feels like a door just opened up and we're tryin to figure out everything inside of it.

Thank you Nick for giving us more to talk about. ;-D

Yes, absolutely! I find it funny, in a way, that the show is entering its 15th year on television, and yet this is the first effort (and subsequent confirmation) that we know of to place the episodes in their correct taping order. It's fascinating!
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: TBombMadeEZ on May 15, 2007, 09:05:06 PM
Exactly, you would've thought that on Nick Gas even, they would've had a schedule with episode numbers on it, you know?

I am still wondering why they suddenly placed this on Nickelodeon in the morning.  I still think it has to be the most watched show on Nick Gas, and they just needed a filler, but we'll find out.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 16, 2007, 02:18:24 PM
You know, at least by finding out the last production pack, I think it's safe to say the production day including "The Comet-Embroidered Battle Flag of William the Conqueror" was the first production day of Season 3.  Which makes "The Much-Heralded Helmet of Sir Gawain" and "The War Fan of the 47 Ronin" #82 and #83 respectively (based on the show-of-the-day numbers given by Tiffani and Elise in their interviews.)
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: Olmec on May 16, 2007, 02:57:55 PM
Quote from: ""silversnakeman""
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
It was listed somewhere that the Lost Whale Bone of Pytheas was episode #115.  Forty episodes per season, and... you do the math.

Ahem... My site's episode list


Well, it was up there before you became co-owner, so I would personally credit Ed.



(Anyway, how did we determine Sforza is 36? Moat/Temple Games???)
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 16, 2007, 03:17:50 PM
I'd say process of elimination.  Only four episodes were made that day, and three of them we've allready figured out their position.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 18, 2007, 07:45:23 AM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
My prediction for the bottom eight:

- Gwalior
- Belle Boyd
- Pytheas
- Sojourner
- Sforza
- Eug?nie
- Benzibab
- Catherine


I AM AWESOME.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: TBombMadeEZ on May 21, 2007, 10:29:16 PM
We're going to get the first episode filmed on June 4th, what do we think it is?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 22, 2007, 04:01:41 AM
Damn.  I'm pretty good at this order thing...
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Silver Monkey on May 22, 2007, 04:46:08 AM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
My prediction for the bottom eight:

- Gwalior
- Belle Boyd
- Pytheas
- Sojourner
- Sforza
- Eug?nie
- Benzibab
- Catherine



And you're still going strong!
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 22, 2007, 05:37:26 AM
Okay, with episode 101A airing on the 4th, it's a 50/50 shot.  I don't think it's the Golden Cup, for if I recall, episode production numbers are given based on when they end production.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Silver Monkey on May 22, 2007, 07:46:59 AM
In that case, I'll guess that it will be Wild Bill Hickok and the Dead Man's Hand.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 22, 2007, 09:50:23 AM
I'm pretty sure it's that one also due to the audience mics being at higher levels.

101A - Wild Bill
102A - Galileo
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 22, 2007, 10:26:47 AM
I'm fairly confident it's Galileo's Cannonball.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 22, 2007, 10:30:03 AM
Oh, TAW.  Guess what.  Your concept of the first few days of Season 3 is kind of wrong.

Thanks to Jon for the info.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 22, 2007, 10:32:41 AM
The first few, 301A and onward from there? Okay, so what're the episodes that fill those numbers?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 22, 2007, 10:35:09 AM
I don't know.

In a tape trade, Jon got those two episodes with title cards before the actual episodes.

Reading what you said before with Tiffani and Elise said in interviews, and with War Fan being episode 86... it's plausible the first day of filming for Season 3 had only three episodes, putting War Fan as the third filmed that day.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 22, 2007, 10:40:07 AM
Wow.  Upon checking his tapes, Jon discovered that episode 83 was War Fan and 86 was Sacagawea.

TAW is right on the money...
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 22, 2007, 10:49:37 AM
Umm, not quite.  I said "The Lion-Slashed Jacket of Sacagawea" was Episode 88, but I guess it's Episode 86 instead.  Thanks for pointing it out, I'll change that on my site.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: TBombMadeEZ on May 23, 2007, 09:26:49 PM
After reading Renegade's site, I'm going to guess that "The Smashed Printing Plate of Frederick Douglass" is tomorrows episode on Nick.

Predictions for Thursday & Friday?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 24, 2007, 05:14:12 AM
It IS Thursday, dude...

3x32 - Melted Head
3x31 - Taj Mahal Turban
3x30 - Egyptian Queen
3x29 - Egyptian King
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: TBombMadeEZ on May 24, 2007, 06:17:04 AM
It wasn't Thursday on the West Coast. ;-D

So did they only record four episodes a day, or five? I thought I read somewhere it was five.  Did it depend on the season?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 24, 2007, 06:48:48 AM
Season-dependent.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: nicklegends on May 24, 2007, 08:15:29 AM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
Season-dependent.

Well, one would suspect so, but there're still unanswered questions that need to be confirmed though the actual numbers. I'm most interested personally in seeing how they taped the six-episode layout 1-5. Could the crew really have survived taping 24 straight rounds of the show, with 72 contestants in the studio simultaneously?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 24, 2007, 08:49:43 AM
You also have to remember, Ed, that one of those six is just the Temple Run for Belshazzar.  So really, it was five episodes with another Temple Run tacked on.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: nicklegends on May 24, 2007, 08:52:32 AM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
You also have to remember, Ed, that one of those six is just the Temple Run for Belshazzar.  So really, it was five episodes with another Temple Run tacked on.

That's a good point. Of course, the irony of taping six temple runs on that day is that none of them were wins.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 25, 2007, 06:24:50 AM
Hey, I'm right again!

The only basis for me putting King before Queen is just that, in common speech, that's usually how it's done.  People don't say "Queen and King".
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on May 25, 2007, 06:34:29 AM
I just realized this disproves our metal beard temple run is filmed on a different day theory.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 25, 2007, 05:48:16 PM
This isn't worth anything yet, but for Season 2, whatever filming day it was, Applewood Amulet was the first run filmed that day.  Atocha was definitely second.

I am 100% sure about this.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 27, 2007, 10:17:51 AM
Quote from: ""outer space""
I just realized this disproves our metal beard temple run is filmed on a different day theory.
I don't know what's with the footpaths over the Moat during the run, then.  Awkward editing?

Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
This isn't worth anything yet, but for Season 2, whatever filming day it was, Applewood Amulet was the first run filmed that day.  Atocha was definitely second.

I am 100% sure about this.


What's the evidence, may I ask?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 27, 2007, 10:37:47 AM
Quote
I don't know what's with the footpaths over the Moat during the run, then. Awkward editing?
Well during the moat for that taping day, if you look carefully, right below the green tubes both players have to stand on, are these bridges/footpaths. Maybe when all the moats were over (over to the point where all the temple runs would be filmed), they got rid of the fog, ropes, and green tubes and just left the footpath?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 27, 2007, 10:46:47 AM
Oh, good find! I'm wondering then, maybe the "slippery footpath" day could've been the one immediately before it?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 27, 2007, 11:03:17 AM
Quote from: ""The Ancient Warrior""
Quote from: ""outer space""
I just realized this disproves our metal beard temple run is filmed on a different day theory.
I don't know what's with the footpaths over the Moat during the run, then.  Awkward editing?

Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
This isn't worth anything yet, but for Season 2, whatever filming day it was, Applewood Amulet was the first run filmed that day.  Atocha was definitely second.

I am 100% sure about this.

What's the evidence, may I ask?

During some of the Atocha games, you can see both the Amulet in the Viper's Nest and the Medallion in the Mine Shaft.  The way the runs go for those episodes, Ty HAD to go through the Viper's Nest, but Olivia-Emma didn't have to go through the Mine Shaft.  (The placement of the Guards indicates that Guard #3 was in the Crypt.)  Thus, they left the Medallion in the un-entered Mine Shaft during the Amulet run.  Applewood Amulet #1, Lucky Medallion #2.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 27, 2007, 11:40:43 AM
Quote from: ""The Ancient Warrior""
Oh, good find! I'm wondering then, maybe the "slippery footpath" day could've been the one immediately before it?
Maybe...it was either that moat or the "3 islands and a plank" moat. (Seeing that 2 moat crossings used a green tube/floaty thing).
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: Olmec on May 27, 2007, 01:26:54 PM
If anyone has any assumptions on the days for Dried Apple Half of William Tell & Mystical Spellbook of the Imperial Wizard, please tell me (taping business)
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 27, 2007, 05:07:48 PM
It's really, really small, but you can see the Shriveled Hand of Efoua in the Swamp when the camera panned up to the Two-Cornered Hat in today's episode.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 28, 2007, 02:17:29 AM
And in "The Shriveled Hand of Efoua" (thanks PPF for pointing it out) you can see the Crown of Queen Nzinga in the Lightning Ball Room.  The other episode that day (due to having the same Moat) was "The Mask in the Man of the Iron Mask."
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Silver Monkey on May 30, 2007, 04:48:44 AM
Apanupec=Ep. #108.

My guess for tomorrow: The Broken Trident of Poseidon (same moat as Apanupec)
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 30, 2007, 05:02:06 AM
I don't know who changed the Wiki entry to "Apanupaq", but I like that spelling.

So it will stay.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: nicklegends on May 30, 2007, 05:15:55 AM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
I don't know who changed the Wiki entry to "Apanupaq", but I like that spelling.

So it will stay.

Then I'll keep "Apanupec." It bets your spelling on Google by nine entries! (But really, what is the correct spelling? :?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on May 30, 2007, 05:31:54 AM
Apanupa-whatever and BLANKzibab will never be known...
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: Olmec on May 30, 2007, 10:28:59 AM
I think tomorrow will be Bent Shaving Pan, just because they left the Shaving Pan in during the Apanupac run.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Silver Monkey on May 31, 2007, 07:56:15 AM
Quote from: ""Olmec""
I think tomorrow will be Bent Shaving Pan, just because they left the Shaving Pan in during the Apanupac run.


Good thought, but still incorrect. The Lily Crested Crown of Clovis the First was today.

And we only see the Pan during the credits. For all we know, they could've put the pan in after Gator got to the Armor.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 31, 2007, 12:01:46 PM
Look at the Moats, too. "The Bent Shaving Pan of Jedediah Smith" was on the same day as "The Marble Armrest of Xerxes," so it's either 3x09, 3x10 or 3x11 ("The Upside-Down Compass of Henry Hudson" is 3x12, i think it's the only episode that day that had no audience during the run.)

Tomorrow has to be "The Broken Trident of Poseidon." Listen closely to Olmec as he explains the Temple Run rules in the Lily-Crested Crown episode:

"Return thru the gates WITH the Crown in three minutes?"

I have a feeling he put so much emphasis on the word "with" because of the Temple Run that happened before it.  Plus i know the two episodes share at least one Temple Game.

Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
Apanupa-whatever and BLANKzibab will never be known...


I have a feeling it's "bin-Zibab" thou, just because it looks more like an Arabic name.  Arabic only has three vowels (a, i and u) and "bin" or "ibn" means "the son of."
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 31, 2007, 12:18:11 PM
Quote from: ""The Ancient Warrior""
Look at the Moats, too. "The Bent Shaving Pan of Jedediah Smith" was on the same day as "The Marble Armrest of Xerxes," so it's either 3x09, 3x10 or 3x11 ("The Upside-Down Compass of Henry Hudson" is 3x12, i think it's the only episode that day that had no audience during the run.)
Bent Shaving Pan and Marble Armrest didn't have audiences either.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on May 31, 2007, 12:35:23 PM
Oh they didn't? I might need to change that, then.  Did "The Snow Cone of Mount Kilimanjaro" also not have an audience?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: Purple Parrots Fan on May 31, 2007, 01:45:52 PM
Nope, Snowcone did have an audience, so that must have been first for its day; seeing the other 3 runs did not have an audience.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Silver Snake on May 31, 2007, 08:31:20 PM
What if all of these predictions are wrong? Then what will you do?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on June 01, 2007, 05:31:15 AM
...Nick GAS has aired all the Layout XIV episodes, with all the similar-moat episodes next to each other and not in alphabetical order . . . I think we have our order for those.

I'm going to say that the listing is the official order for those episodes.  I don't think anyone would go against that...
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on June 01, 2007, 05:45:28 AM
Oh, and I think that the episode that aired today ("Monocle") has the same moat as Gawain, which we're almost positive is 3x02.  I think we have our 3x01.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Silver Monkey on June 01, 2007, 07:44:28 AM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
Oh, and I think that the episode that aired today ("Monocle") has the same moat as Gawain, which we're almost positive is 3x02.  I think we have our 3x01.


And if that's the case, then "The War Fan of the 47 Ronin" would be 3x03.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on June 01, 2007, 07:51:56 AM
This post doesn't matter anymore.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on June 01, 2007, 10:22:08 AM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
BLACKBEARD'S TREASURE MAP.

Here's a mindfuck for you: what if this was the first episode produced?  It'd explain the lack of credits.


But "The Golden Cup of Belshazzar" has the same layout in the Temple Run only, meaning that Blackbeard's layout couldn't've been first.  I don't see any sense in them coming back to it.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on June 01, 2007, 10:55:04 AM
What I meant is, maybe that episode had the same fate as Belshazzar.

Instead of two runs in Layout I and six in Layout V, as it ended up, it would have started with four and four.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: Olmec on June 02, 2007, 07:15:38 AM
You might wanna edit (It says "The Comet-Embroidered Battle Flag of One-Eyed Jack)  :lol:
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on June 02, 2007, 07:24:22 AM
Uh... Kirk outtake?

Changed.

Although with War Fan and Comet airing today...

Either the episodes are flipped in order when airing on GAS (which isn't unheard of, it's been done) or Elise and Tiffani can't count.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on June 03, 2007, 05:30:43 AM
Or, you know, just ignore what I said about yesterday.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on June 03, 2007, 07:03:39 AM
Quote from: ""The Silver Snake""
What if all of these predictions are wrong? Then what will you do?


Scream.

Actually, i think we have the Bandit Queen day figured out.  Sacagawea we know is 3x06, and it had the "giant wheel" game, along with Chandragupta and Judge Roy Bean but NOT Bandit Queen.  Bandit Queen and Judge Roy Bean were the only two episodes that day with the "escape from the mine shaft" game.  So i figure Chandragupta was 3x05, Judge Roy Bean was 3x07 and Bandit Queen was 3x08.  I guess this also proves the editing (i.e. the first-person Temple Rundowns) isn't that reliable a basis for guesses.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on June 03, 2007, 07:45:06 AM
We also learned that Tiffani is NOT a reliable source for episode numbering.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on June 03, 2007, 09:07:00 AM
What was the ordering for the first four episodes of Season 3, then? i need to know the Temple Games in each episode, since i forget what they were in the Comet-Embroidered Battle Flag and (dammit!) i missed "The War Fan of the Forty-seven Ronin" when it was on the other day.  Using the pics from nicklegends's site to tell what games there were for the episodes would make it a little eaasier to sort.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on June 03, 2007, 10:30:46 AM
Bifocal Monocle was the first episode of S3.  Then Comet, then War Fan, and then Gawain.

You know, considering that Gawain was after War Fan, it explains why Tiffani never ran into a Temple Guard . . .
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on June 03, 2007, 10:40:25 AM
Ugh.  It's so blatantly obvious that Chandragupta is 3x05.

Episodes 1-4 of the third season, if I recall, don't have the panthers on each side of the Steps.  Kirk even mentions DURING the Steps to "watch out for the cats", indicating that was the first run of the day.

Stupid.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on June 03, 2007, 11:14:00 AM
I find it kind of odd that they would begin the season with an episode about a completely ficticious person but legends has done stranger. At least we know it was a miserable first shoot of the season.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on June 03, 2007, 02:55:02 PM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
Bifocal Monocle was the first episode of S3.  Then Comet, then War Fan, and then Gawain.

You know, considering that Gawain was after War Fan, it explains why Tiffani never ran into a Temple Guard . . .


I asked what the Temple Games for those episodes were, using that for evidence.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on June 04, 2007, 08:40:10 PM
I REALLY WISH WHOEVER KEEPS CHANGING THE WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE BACK TO GAWAIN AS 3x02 WOULD STOP.  YOU ARE WRONG.  GET OVER IT.

That is all.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on June 05, 2007, 03:41:10 AM
I have some we allready determined for Season 2:

"The Diary of Dr. Livingstone" is 2x08.  i think someone told me it was the only one of its day to have no audience.

"The Stone Head of the Evil King" is 3x12.  All four of the Temple Runs that day featured the same clay pots in the King's Storeroom, but the room was only entered in this episode.

Based on the Temple Games on that day, (http://http://phantomsden.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=560&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=135) i think it's Johnny Appleseed was 3x09, Empress Theodora 3x10, and Spanish King 3x11.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: Notundercovercop327 on June 05, 2007, 05:37:29 AM
Quote from: ""The Ancient Warrior""
I have some we allready determined for Season 2:

"The Diary of Dr. Livingstone" is 2x08.  i think someone told me it was the only one of its day to have no audience.

"The Stone Head of the Evil King" is 3x12.  All four of the Temple Runs that day featured the same clay pots in the King's Storeroom, but the room was only entered in this episode.

Based on the Temple Games on that day, (http://http://phantomsden.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=560&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=135) i think it's Johnny Appleseed was 3x09, Empress Theodora 3x10, and Spanish King 3x11.

Acctually the bone necklace of the blackfeet chief didn't have an audience either.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on June 11, 2007, 09:24:58 AM
Someone remove the episode guide from Wikipedia.

I've been banned from making Wiki edits thanks to one of you EXPLETIVEs.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Silver Monkey on June 11, 2007, 04:46:27 PM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
Someone remove the episode guide from Wikipedia.


Done.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on June 12, 2007, 10:30:40 AM
Okay, and Phantom put it back.  Which I told him to do.

Hopefully it sticks.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on June 21, 2007, 10:30:26 PM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
And here's the biggie.

What came after the Catherine the Great episode?

BLACKBEARD'S TREASURE MAP.

Here's a mindfuck for you: what if this was the first episode produced?  It'd explain the lack of credits.

(Although BTM has also aired with Sforza...)

There ya go.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Silver Monkey on June 29, 2007, 06:43:04 PM
Nickelodeon + Nick GaS + The King's Stoeroom + Phantom's Temple = This (http://http://thesecretpassword.bravehost.com/episodeguide.html)

Tell me if there are any errors :)
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on June 29, 2007, 08:09:49 PM
66-70 aren't confirmed.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: nicklegends on July 05, 2007, 08:51:30 PM
How sure are we at this point that 3x01-3x40 are correct?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Mandarin Hand on July 07, 2007, 07:33:56 AM
100%, Ed.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: nicklegends on July 07, 2007, 08:07:30 AM
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
100%, Ed.

Alright, just checking. It's going on my website.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: silversnakeman on July 07, 2007, 11:09:07 AM
Quote from: ""nicklegends""
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
100%, Ed.
Alright, just checking. It's going on my website.


Ahem.... our site, Ed?
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: nicklegends on July 07, 2007, 07:12:37 PM
Quote from: ""silversnakeman""
Quote from: ""nicklegends""
Quote from: ""Renegade Pancake""
100%, Ed.
Alright, just checking. It's going on my website.

Ahem.... our site, Ed?

It's my website as much as it is yours, Jake. I can say anything, especially when it reduces confusion.

I understand I am breaking this rule now, but we need to keep on-topic. Thanks.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: nicklegends on July 10, 2007, 07:17:24 AM
Quote from: ""The Ancient Warrior""
At this point I'm inclined to agree.

BTW, nicklegends, the name does put that accent mark over the second e in "Eug?nie." The legend talks about Eug?nie de Montijo, with an acute mark in her name.

Thanks for that. I've put it on the site. :)

On a different note, we now have the complete Season 1 episode order. Thanks to all those who kept track of the episode airings on GaS.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on July 11, 2007, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: ""nicklegends""
Quote from: ""The Ancient Warrior""
BTW, nicklegends, the name does put that accent mark over the second e in "Eug?nie." The legend talks about Eug?nie de Montijo, with an acute mark in her name.
Thanks for that. I've put it on the site. :)


It didn't come up right, maybe copy and paste it from the way i wrote it in the quote?

But to be more productive, "The Secret Battle Plan of Nathan Hale" has to be 2x04, and that means "The Golden Stallion of Ali Baba" is 2x03.  Remember that controversial "AT-TA-CK PH-IL-AD-EL-PH-IA" Temple Game? The equipment they used for that game was also used in the Golden Stallion episode, but neither of the other episodes on that same day.
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: nicklegends on July 19, 2007, 07:38:34 AM
Interesting! So The Mask of the Man in the Iron Mask was not episode 2x17; rather, it was The Missing Eye of David. It's actually rather amusing to go through this entire thread and see the failed predictions. I'm not blaming anybody in particular (we've all made mistakes here), but you should try it too. :)
Title: The Official Production Order Thread
Post by: The Ancient Warrior on July 19, 2007, 12:34:32 PM
It couldn't of been the Iron Mask episode, which was filmed on the same day as "The Two-Cornered Hat of Napoleon." Remember how they stood the Two-Cornered Hat on a red pot in the King's Storeroom? Well, the pots were red in the Little John Temple Run (credit to outer space for helping me find that out,) but "The Lost Lion Tail of Little John" was on a different production day, obviously the last one of the day before the Iron Mask production day.

Therefore "The Mask of the Man in the Iron Mask" could not have been 2x17.  i had a hunch "The Missing Eye of David"'s day was first out of the layout, but i was going with Olmec and thinking "The Ivory Elephant of Scheherazade" would be 2x17.

This is all based on the King's Storeroom pot theory:

2x24 - The Lost Lion Tail of Little John
2x27 - The Mask of the Man in the Iron Mask
2x28 - The Two-Cornered Hat of Napol?on